Jenn Drummond; Brian J. Esposito; Dr, Kristi Hustak; Nicholas Cicio; Serena De Comarmond; Lana Kerr

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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome to A Moment of Zen. Time to sit back
and relax as model, actress, mentor, and supermom Zen Sams
takes you on a sexy and wild ride covering the
latest in film, fashion, pop culture, cryptocurrency, fintech, cannabis, and
entertainment from the millennial mom's perspective. Here's your host, Zen Sams.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Welcome back, beautiful New York tri-state area and beyond. You're
listening to A Moment of Zen right here on 710WOR.
the voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zen Sams. Tonight,
we're talking about the parts of success, transformation, and reinvention
that we don't always see from the outside. Because whether
we're building our bodies, our careers, our lives, or even

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our definition of success, there's almost always a story underneath
the story. We begin with with the Heart of Influence
series brought to you by Diamond Lake and its subsidiaries,
alongside our regular co-contributor, Brian J. Esposito. And our guest
today is Jen Drummond. She's a Guinness World Record-holding mountaineer, entrepreneur, author,

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and mother of seven. Yep, that's right. You heard it right. Seven.
She's also a woman who knows a thing or two
about reaching the top. Tonight, the mountain is just really
a metaphor. Our topic is from achievement to influence and
how resilience, reinvention, and human connection turn personal success into
something way bigger. Then, in the Sculpting the Future series

(01:36):
brought to you by Alloclay, I'm joined by board-certified plastic surgeon, Dr.
Christy Hustak. She's redefining what a complete mommy makeover can
actually mean because motherhood, aging, hormones, and even major weight
loss can change far more than our breasts and belly.
And women, we're increasingly asking physicians to look at our
body as a whole. That's why we're talking about the breasts, belly,

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and below. We're going to redefine the complete mommy makeover. Next,
pack lightly because the lifestyle edit brought to you by
Melia Hotels International is taking us around the world with
Nicholas Ciccio, better known as Nicholas Nomad. Nicholas went from
an architecture degree and an $ 11 an hour grocery job

(02:18):
during COVID to Through addiction, gambling, and evictions, and even homelessness,
to rebuilding his life with everything he owned, fitting in
inside two backpacks. With just $ 900 to his name, he
bought a one-way ticket to Mexico. Today, he travels the
world full-time, creating content for brands, hotels, and tourism organizations,
all the while helping other creators build location-independent careers. Our

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producer Serena de Comarmonde, whose career spans documentary, branded content,

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Speaker 3 (04:07):
Welcome back, beautiful New York tri-state area and beyond. You're
listening to A Moment of Zen right here on 710WOR,
the voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zen Sams.
Welcome back to the Heart of Influence series brought to
you by Diamond Lake and its subsidiaries. Today, we're talking
about something we don't discuss nearly enough when we talk
about success. What happens after you actually get there? We

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spend so much of our lives climbing. The career. the company,
the financial milestone, the family, the record, the mountain. But
eventually you discover that reaching the summit and finding meaning
once you're standing on it are two very different things.
And that's especially relevant right now. Gallup's newest global workplace
research finds only 34% of employees worldwide are thriving, while 40%

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experienced significant stress the previous day. And here in the
US and even in Canada, that stress number climbs to 50%.
So perhaps the next definition of influence isn't simply how
high can I climb, it's who becomes stronger because I climbed.
My guests today approach that question from two fascinating different worlds.

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Our Heart of Influence contributor, Brian Giasposito, is the founder
and CEO of Diamond Lake. He's an entrepreneur whose work
sits at the intersection of technology, connectivity, digital ownership, and
emerging opportunities, and who believes that innovation ultimately has to
create greater human access and impact. And joining us again
is someone I've had the pleasure of interviewing before, but

(05:39):
she's really coming back with an entirely new chapter. Jen
Drummond is a Guinness World Record-holding mountaineer, entrepreneur, keynote speaker,
and mother of seven, who became the first woman to
complete the seven Second Summits. And remarkably, this year, she
went climbing again through the project Climb Higher. Jen took
on Mont Blanc, Elbrus and Denali in a 60-day pursuit

(06:03):
designed to complete her journey across the highest and second
highest peaks on every continent. Her June Denali summit completed
the project and another world record pursuit. Our headliner today
is After the Summit, When Success Stops Being About You. Jen, Brian,
welcome to the show, superstars. Thank you for having us.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Love these conversations.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Great to be here. And Jen's someone I highly admire
for a long time. So looking forward to this discussion.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
So Jen, I want to talk about the Second Summit.
And Who are you after the win? So when we
last spoke, so much of your story, Jen, was about becoming.
The accident that changed your relationship with mortality, seven children,
watching mom dream bigger, and ultimately becoming the first woman
to complete the seven second summit. So here's what's fascinating.

(06:53):
You didn't stop. You've actually built your current work around
the idea of the second summit and what happens after
the big win and how you turn that achievement into
a deeper, more meaningful climb. So after you've broken the
record and received the recognition, what happens psychologically when the
thing that drove you no longer needs to drive you?

(07:15):
Who are you after the summit? Talk to me.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (07:18):
So I think after the summit, you realize life isn't
always just about what we can accomplish. It's really about
what we make possible for other people. So when I
went to chase that second world record, my children were
able to participate in those climbs with me. And so
we did those hard things together, experienced the training, the setbacks,

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all of it together. And watching them step into those
environments and realize that they too can do hard things
was probably the biggest win of all of it. And
so for me, like the record was a chapter of
my life. And now I get to work on the
next chapter and write it about how do we take
these achievements and these accomplishments and help others have theirs.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I love that because sometimes we confuse purpose with pursuit.
We're so busy chasing the next marker that achievement almost
becomes our identity. And what I'm hearing from you is
that a healthier question becomes, what did the climb teach
me that I can now give away, right? which brings

(08:26):
me directly to Brian. So Brian, let's talk about when
does achievement become responsibility? Your mountains obviously look very different
than Jen's. I mean, Brian, you're building companies, you're working
with emerging technologies, digital assets, and new models of ownership.
But there's an interesting statistic here. Gallup says leaders actually

(08:49):
report more stress, anger, sadness, and loneliness than individual contributors.
even while reporting higher overall life evaluation. Leadership can look
fantastic from the outside while carrying an enormous emotional burden privately. So, Brian,
is there a point where success has to graduate into significance?

(09:10):
When you've accumulated the network, capital, technology, and your influence,
do you believe you acquire responsibility to create access for
somebody else?

Speaker 5 (09:20):
Absolutely. For my experience, journey I was very vulnerable and
transparent through it all so it wasn't after the fact
that maybe there was success there and I could talk
about it and show it off I was very and
still am in the midst of problems I share that
with the world I'm not the guy that talks about
look at this fancy private jet I'm getting on look

(09:41):
at my new watch like that is nauseating to me
and not the responsibility or the obligations of people that
have made an impact that have resources to do good
with that impact For me, nobody's immune to problems. And
more money means more problems because then you become a target.
So it's just you never can... escape it. So the
responsibility I've always had as someone that's gone through more

(10:04):
than the average bear, it's a Yogi Derra reference for
anybody that's.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Not the baseball player.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
I think my job is to help people, A, give
them someone they can connect with and maybe feel a
mutual bond with, even if it's virtually, and say, hey,
if this guy can go through this and overcome it
and not lose themselves on that journey, because that's the
hardest part, not getting bitter, not getting jaded, not being
angry with the world or humanity. There's all these things
we have to deal with daily to make sure we

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don't lose ourselves and to make sure, in my viewpoint,
leave some kind of positive mark for somebody that's a
little a little something in their pocket that they can
take with them and hopefully surpass people like me and
do better and just continue that momentum going.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, and that's the bridge between both of you for me.
I mean, Jen climbed mountains. Nobody could climb for her. Brian,
nobody could build your businesses for you. But at some point,
individual achievement becomes much less interesting than what the achievement
unlocks for other people to both of your points. So Jen,
let's talk about The resilience without breaking yourself. I consider

(11:12):
you break-proof. I want to challenge one of our favorite
cultural buzzwords, resilience. Because sometimes we glorify resilience to the
point where it essentially means take more pain and keep going.
Your own current leadership work talks specifically about resilience without burnouts.

(11:34):
And that distinction matters when 40% of workers globally and
half of the U.S. and Canada report significant daily stress.
Stress is a killer. I mean, you've also written about
something beautifully simple on the mountain. When the steps got wobbly,
the team didn't push harder. You stopped, breathed, reset, and
then moved. That's calculated. And it has to be at

(11:58):
that level of climbing. but that translates to your everyday life.
How has your definition of strength changed? How do you
know when resilience means keep climbing versus having the courage
to stop, reset, or even turn around?

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah, I mean, I think when we.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
First explore the world of resilience, we think, oh, I'm
not gonna get stopped and I'm gonna tolerate all this
pain and I can do this. And as we get
more mature in our definition of resilience, resilience is really
about how can I honestly show up in my life
and not let ego make decisions for me. And so

(12:33):
sometimes resilience is continuing. Sometimes it's pausing. Sometimes it's turning
around and not climbing that mountain because it's no longer
on your path to do. So for me, resilience is
continuously staying strong with who I am because otherwise you're
being reckless with who you are and making sure that okay,

(12:55):
this does deserve my attention. This does deserve my efforts
and my sharing of my time and my responsibilities with
this life that I've been given. So resilience always comes
back to, are you being true to yourself? And are
you making decisions that align for you? Because that's the
most important thing to do.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
And that's such an important distinction because stopping isn't always quitting,
to your point. It's sometimes stopping is strategy. And I
think especially as women and mothers were celebrated for carrying
everything until we're almost collapsing under it. I mean, maybe
real resilience isn't proving how much we can withstand. Maybe
it's becoming sophisticated enough to recognize what we shouldn't have

(13:40):
to withstand. Brian, this brings us right back to our headliner, right?
So much of your world is about what's next. New technology,
new ownership, structures, new connections and opportunities that didn't previously exist.
But I'm wondering... whether the most important next for you
and even for Jen is actually personal. So forget the record,

(14:00):
the company evaluation and the resume for a moment, Brian,
what is the summit you're climbing right now that scares
you enough or matters to you enough to know it's
worth climbing?

Speaker 5 (14:12):
I don't know. I know we're all here for a reason.
I've felt that since a young age, I've had near
death experiences. I know I could end this phone call
and it could it could be over right that's the
world i live i don't live in fear i'm not
afraid of death but i i am very conscious about
i know i'm here for a reason and if you
have that in you as a human being an entrepreneur

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and someone that has an impact or influence over people
like if you if you're driven by that and again
it's money can't be your north star money and things
can't be your north star can't bring that stuff with
you never you hold a funeral i say it all
the So if you're driven to leave some kind of
positive mark, that's been, honestly, since I was eight years old,
I love bringing value to people. I love making people laugh.

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I love making people feel good. That is my fuel source.
When I can be in those moments and be somebody's
support system, somebody's point of contact to get them through
a hard time, to turn them from zero to 100,
that's the thing I'm addicted to. And I could do
that until the last breath that I take. So that's
my work. That's my hobby.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
That's my passion.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
So I'm doing the best I can to do that
and be that for people. Again, also the right people,
because you only have so much time in a day.
And if you're using those gifts that we have as
human beings and you're sharing them with other people, and
I have empathy way too far than the human, the
normal human, it's draining too. You're inviting the wrong people.

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And so you have to be very conscious if you
do want to leave a mark and you want to
help people and you want to surround yourself with people.
You got to do everything you can to make sure
you're choosing the right people. I think that's my hardest job, honestly.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Well, you said it. It's true. I mean, your network
is your net worth and the ecosystem is everything. And actually, Jen,
your current work says something I love. The mountain becomes
a metaphor. From your perspective... Jen, right now, what is
that summit you're climbing right now? And I mean, is
it a summit that's scaring you more than the actual

(16:10):
summits you climbed or where are you at? Talk to me.

Speaker 6 (16:14):
Yeah, so I would say my last chapter was about
showing what you can do with your life. I went
from never sleeping in a tent to setting two world records.
And so that can be applied to everybody's life in
their own arena or their own medium. And so this
part of my life right now, this chapter is fully

(16:34):
about helping others act on what makes them feel alive.
I think we're really good at postponing ourselves. And then
when we do that, we start depriving ourselves of joy
and all these things that make us who we are.
And so I'm very intentional about helping people make sure
that they're filling their calendars with not just meetings, but

(16:55):
with their life. And so I started a new project
called Some Days. Because we all have a some days list.
Someday I'm going to take the class. I'm going to
climb the mountain. I'm going to make the phone call.
I'm going to do the thing. But that sounds responsible
because someday, but we normally don't act on that. So
I'm really helping people say, okay, well, if that's someday,
what day do we put that on? So it actually

(17:16):
gets dated.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
It gets done.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
And then we can document that we took care of it.
And when people do those activities, their confidence grows and
everything seems to get better all the way around. So
for me, I'm really thinking, OK, let's live our Sundays
and let's impact each other and share what brings us
alive because it'll help other people find that light in themselves.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
For those of you listening, watching, tuning in, streaming, you
can follow Jen's latest expeditions, leadership work and summit series
through Jen Drummond's official website. You can go to Jen
Drummond dot com and you could follow her on the
gram at the Jen Drummond. That's two N's and two M's.
You heard it, Jen Drummond, two N's, two M's. And

(17:57):
Brian J. Esposito, you can check him out on the
gram at Brian underscore J underscore Esposito. Thank you, as always,
for bringing another remarkable human to the conversation. We'll be
right back after this.

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Speaker 3 (18:38):
Welcome back, beautiful New York Tri-State area and beyond. You're
listening to a moment of Zen right here on 710WOR,
the voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zen Sams.
Welcome back to Sculpting the Future series brought to you
by Aluclid. And ladies, this conversation is for us because
motherhood can change practically every part of a woman's body.

(19:00):
So the modern woman's body's contouring conversation isn't simply about
getting your pre-baby body back anymore. It's pregnancy, childbirth, hormones, aging,
weight loss, GLP-1s, loose skin, lost volume. intimate health. And increasingly,
women are asking, can we look at the entire body

(19:21):
instead of just treating it as separate pieces? Well, my
next guest does exactly that.

Speaker 6 (19:28):
Dr.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Christy Hustak is a board-certified plastic surgeon. She's based in
Houston and Clear Lake, Texas, with more than a decade
of experience. She specializes in what she calls the complete
mommy makeover, combining procedures such as tummy tucks and liposuction
and breast surgery, but also addressing intimate changes through procedures
including labiaplasty and vaginoplasty when appropriate. And she's not simply

(19:50):
performing these techniques. She teaches and lectures on plastic surgery
techniques nationally and internationally.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Dr.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Hostak, welcome to the show, superstar.

Speaker 7 (20:00):
Yeah, thank you for having me. So excited to be
here today and talk about one of those taboo topics,
to your point, that you kind of whisper when you're
you know, at a party like, wait, tell me more.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah. Well, we're here to demystify sexual stigma and sexual
shame for one, at least in the women category. But,
you know, the new mommy makeover is really unique because
I think the phrase mommy makeover has almost become shorthand
for boobs and belly. But the American Society of Plastic
Surgeons actually lists the breasts, abdomen, waist, genitalia, and buttocks

(20:34):
among the areas that can be addressed after childbearing. So
Perhaps we've been defining this too narrowly.

Speaker 7 (20:40):
So Dr.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Hustak, when a woman walks into your office today asking
you for a mommy makeover, what does a truly complete
mommy makeover mean to you? And why shouldn't the conversation
stop at breasts and belly? Obviously, the breasts and body.

Speaker 7 (20:52):
The changes of pregnancy, those are the ones that we
think about the most. But also your intimate health, your labiaplasty,
your vaginoplasty, all of that stuff changes. Your whole vulva,
things relax. They rotate down. You get hormone changes and dryness.
Whether or not a baby came down that vault, you
have some changes to your vagina.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
It just is a fact.

Speaker 7 (21:11):
And so having that conversation now, particularly as we're in
this kind of menopausal revolution, you know, with all of
these hormones and bioidenticals and peptides, we're really wanting to
maintain our sexual identity through the ages. I mean, gone
are the days where, okay, you're done past childbearing years.
like close up shop, you know, with all these, these

(21:33):
hormones and things we're on now, we're still wanting to
enjoy intercourse beyond having children. And so that's the idea
here is not only are the changes of your mons pubis,
which is the hair bearing area right next to where
we do your abdominal plasty, a lot of doctors never
looked south. So they would do this beautiful flat tummy,
and then you would still have tons of fullness right
above your pubic bone. And so the mons plasty was,

(21:56):
I think, one of my biggest procedures for my first decade,
because gals are like, you know, Googling FUPA and like,
what is this? And why do I look like I'm
packing in my yoga pants and my bathing suits? And
it's because nobody turns south.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
Nobody looked to.

Speaker 7 (22:09):
See how that changed and how that fat changed. And
that fat's hormone responsive. We're seeing this with our GLP-1 gals.
If you lose weight everywhere else, you're not losing weight
there because it's a hormone driven fat pad in your
mons pubis and labia majora. So we're starting to address
those in addition to intravaginal health. So making sure that
that's tight and moist and all the things post childbearing.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
I love that distinction because we're not talking about manufacturing
some completely different woman. We're talking about looking at her
entire experience, what pregnancy and childbirth and weight fluctuations in
life have actually changed and then determining what, if anything,
she wants restored. And I think mothers need permission to
talk about that without feeling vain or embarrassed. So thank you. Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (22:54):
And it's not just about the looks. I mean, a
lot of it is function too.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Now I want to talk about what the gym can't fix.
So now let's tackle something that frustrates so many women.
I mean, you can eat well, you can, you could
strength train, you can do Pilates until you practically live
on the, on the reformer, but exercise can't remove excess
skin and pregnancy can't stretch or even separate the abdominal
musculature in ways that simply losing weight doesn't necessarily correct, right?

(23:21):
That's important because women sometimes interpret something they physically cannot
exercise away as a personal failure. And it's not the case.
So how do you determine which postpartum changes can realistically
improve through lifestyle and time and which changes can such
as significant loose skin, abdominal separation, or lost volume, might

(23:42):
actually require a surgical or a structural solution. Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (23:46):
So we don't start that conversation until about six months
postpartum anyways. The body goes through such significant changes early on.
We start the conversation as early as six months postpartum,
usually not operating on anybody until at least a year
to 18 months after having their child. And sometimes we
do operate on gals in between having children, right? This
is not like a, oh no, wait till you're all

(24:07):
done before you do it. There are some things we
can do in the interim, but certainly we want you
to wait some time for all those tissues to bounce back. Again,
muscle separation. You know, one child, you have a solid,
you know, 50 to 60% chance of bouncing back.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Zero issues.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
But after two, three or twin pregnancies or massive weight
gains and weight shifts, that muscle separation that's clinically significant
happens 60% of the time. That's a really large majority
of women after having children that have some degree of
muscle separation, usually above three centimeters. You cannot exercise that back.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
You just can't.

Speaker 7 (24:42):
It gets scarred.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
It gets lateralized.

Speaker 7 (24:44):
You'll never get that function back. And so that's really
the vein for your buck with abdominal procedures. Lots of
things we can do to address fat and skin. The
only thing we can really address muscles, it's not muscle stim.
It's not sit-ups. In fact, sit-ups are the worst thing
you can do. Probably isometric stuff like planks is a
little bit better. You cannot put those back together. So
there'll always be a place for us postpartum in the

(25:06):
world of plastic surgery to repair that. From the other
perspective about skin, same thing. Skin stretches, you cannot exercise
that way beyond a year, 18 months. Our massive weight loss,
our GOP ones, same thing. If anything, you're noticing that
a little bit quicker because the weight loss is so
rapid in some of these gals and you just can't
exercise that way. Unfortunately, that usually means some degree of scar.

(25:28):
There's other things we can do skin tightening-wise but significant
skin laxity and muscle needs surgery. So we will always
have a place at the table because there's just nothing
you can do. And so remove that shame. It's okay
to be like, gosh, I've been a gym rat five
days a week. I cannot put these muscles back together.
You will never be able to. Quit killing yourself. Give
yourself the grace to know that these are changes that

(25:49):
we can help and fix if it bothers you.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah. And that's such an important expectation reset because fitness
and surgery don't do the same job. Taking care of
your body absolutely matters, but women shouldn't be punishing themselves
in the gym trying to exercise away anatomy that exercise
wasn't designed to change. Now let's talk about the cosmetic
or functional. So that brings me to something I really
want to separate from the Instagram version of plastic surgery.

(26:14):
Not every woman asking about intimate procedures is necessarily saying,
I don't like how this looks. You said that earlier.
Some women describe irritation on the clothing, like you said,
or discomfort exercising and those changes really just morph for
anything but after childbirth. But those concerns do affect intimacy, right?
So aesthetics may only be one piece of the story.

(26:37):
When women come to you.

Speaker 8 (26:38):
Asking about labiaplasty and vaginoplasty or other intimate procedures, how
often is the conversation about function or physical comfort rather
than appearance?

Speaker 3 (26:50):
And how do you and how do you determine who
is actually an appropriate candidate?

Speaker 7 (26:53):
Well, let's take a step back from that a little
bit in that this function is always part of the conversation.
But regardless, like we do a lot of things for
quality of life, aesthetic and women are super tutorial. Our brain,
our sexuality is here a lot more than it is
down below. And so if we're constantly worried about something,
we're moving labia out of the way to have intercourse

(27:15):
and put tampons in. We're out of the moment.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Right.

Speaker 7 (27:17):
And it's really hard to get us back in it.
So it's also okay even if you're mildly functionally impaired
from it, but you just don't like it and it
bothers you. It's still okay to have a labiaplasty, for example.
Our early studies showed that 85% of your total life
was better after a labiaplasty.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Like the whole life.

Speaker 7 (27:37):
And that's a confidence thing, right? And a lot of
what we do in plastic surgery is confidence. So even
if that little bit of skin down there was causing
a little bit of irritation, but it wasn't really functional,
just aesthetic that bothered you and you thought about it
all the time. And that alone made a big difference.
So yes, we always talk about function, but even if
it just bothers you, if I can make it better
and make 85% of your whole life better by doing that,

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totally worth it for me from that perspective. Um, and
we see that with breasts and things like that too.
Small breasts is normal. It doesn't mean you have to
like it. It's okay to have a breast dog and
improve your confidence. Same is true down here, but chronic irritation, friction, uh,
Like the follicles, you can get a lot of trapped
follicles and ingrown hairs when you have a lot of
redundant skin. pH problems, moisture problems. Again, when you have

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so much redundancy down there, it traps in a lot
of heat and moisture, more prone to bacterial vaginosis and
things like that. So simply getting some of that skin tucked,
particularly as we lose volume with postmenopausal and or with
these GLP-1s, if you're losing outer lips, that's usually where
those hang and are uncomfortable because you need some volume there.

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Those are great ones functionally to restore volume. That's where
ala clay or fat comes into play. Or conversely, remove
a little bit of skin just to restore your balance
so you don't have what's called a hanging labia. I'm just,
you know, deflated skin down there.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Let's stay on that point. So the GLP-1 body and
aloe clay, this is a nice segue. We have another
major disruptor, right? Changing your consultation room. And it's the
GLP-1 weight loss. The newest data, it's quite fascinating. 82%
of their member surgeons, we're talking about the ASPS data.
So 82% of their member surgeons reported receiving GLP-1 related

(29:20):
consultation requests. Okay, that's a huge number. And we're seeing
increases across lift procedures as patients lose a substantial amount
of weight, but then discover another issue. The scale changed
faster than their skin and volume distribution did. So upper
body lifts increased uh, 22% arm lifts and thigh lifts. And,

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and those were at about 20, but fat grafting interesting
jumped an extraordinary 40% last year alone. So we're entering
this era where body contouring isn't necessarily about taking more away.
Sometimes it's about strategically putting structure and volume back. And
that's where this conversation intersects beautifully with our Sculpting the

(30:04):
Future series and Alloclay, which is an off-the-shelf structural adipose
tissue product that gives qualified physicians another tool to really
consider for appropriate soft tissue and contouring applications. It's really
a category entirely on its own. So Dr. Hostak, how
has significant or GLP-1-assisted weight loss changed the mommy makeover

(30:27):
patient that you're seeing today? And when you're assessing loose
skin versus lost volume versus stubborn fat, how do you
decide whether that patient needs something removed, lifted, tightened, or
volume restored? And where can technologies and structural adipose options
like Alloclay enter that toolkit? Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (30:46):
Well, that conversation has totally changed. Plastic surgeons have always
known that fat was liquid gold.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
I mean, we love fat.

Speaker 7 (30:52):
It makes everything better. In addition to volume, skin texture
and tone is better, the overall skin quality, because there's
some stem cells in fat.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
So we've always loved fat.

Speaker 7 (31:02):
The problem a decade ago in a lot of our
patients that lost a lot of weight, especially with bypasses,
it was so hard to talk them into fat grafting
because we knew that they were deflated in multiple areas
because they worked so hard to get rid of that fat.
That conversation is totally changing. They're not even, you know,
they're asking for adding some volume now because they recognize

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some of the benefits for it, particularly with GLP-1s. The
hard part is I'm losing donor sites, right? And so
a lot of these gals are so deflated, it's very
hard for me to find some fat that makes an
appreciable difference. And that's really where this off-the-shelf donor adipose
structural tissue comes into play because we can really restore
that volume with some structure, hooks onto your own fat

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cells and hypertrophies, and a really robust fashion where we
had nothing like that on the market previous to this.
I don't know, you know, some of us that have
had liposuction before, it's incredibly uncomfortable. Some of my mommy
makeover patients will tell me the hardest part and most
uncomfortable part of the recovery was not their tummy tuck.
That might've been the longest part of it, but it's
the liposuction. It hurts, particularly in skinny gals because I'm

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going right next to the muscles and there's not a
lot of interface between the skin and your muscles in
my skinny gals when I'm trying to get that back.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
It's uncomfortable.

Speaker 7 (32:17):
You're down for a while. You know, I tell gals,
it's like you ran a marathon back to back. Your
muscles feel shredded because I'm so close to all that
fascia muscle covering to get every ounce of fat I can.
Particularly if I'm cutting that skin off, I'm going to
strip it because we're running out of fat. So nice
to go off of the shelf now, grab some fat.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
And put it back in.

Speaker 7 (32:36):
Where I particularly love it is, you know, in Connor
the days, you know, we're still doing fat crafting and BBLs,
but those numbers are going down. You know, we're building
different bodies now. Around breasts though, these new concepts of
hybrid breast augmentations, still using the small implant, but masking
it around it and kind of building out some central cleavage,
building up some upper pole cleavage, but with smaller implants

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so they don't feel as heavy. That's a hot thing
right now, particularly with these ballerina breasts. Hip dips. That's
an athletic look and you cannot do enough exercises to
pop out that area and round it out. Beautiful location
to put 50 cc's of off the shelf donor fat
in that area. You don't have any downtime of having
the liposuction and you can really get some dramatic improvement.

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Any volume in certain areas like your upper butt recruits
that skin. So it helps a lot with that loose
skin to the lower part of your booty. I'm not
even putting fat in the lower part of your booty
where the loose skin is. I'm putting it on the upper,
on your glutes to rotate and lift that. So it's
been really fun to play with these products and play
with that to really see where we can strategically put that.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Fat to make a difference.

Speaker 7 (33:40):
Face, for example, you put a little bit in your temple,
that lifts your brow. So small little things like that
can make a big difference in your facial aesthetics without
doing this kind of overfilled funkiness. You know, you can
put a little bit on your jawline, all of a
sudden you're angular and you look like you've got a
neck lift. So we're playing with it in really robust locations.
We're not putting fat in your fold anymore. We'll put
in your cheek, lift your whole face. So putting fat

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strategically where it needs to go makes a big difference.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Well, that was Dr. Christy Hustak. She's a board certified
plastic surgeon practicing in Houston and Clear Lake, Texas. You
can learn more about her directly on her website at christyhustakmd.com.
And you could follow her directly on Instagram at Christy
with an I, HustakMD. That's Christy HustakMD. This was another
edition of Sculpting the Future series brought to you by Aluclay.

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Speaker 3 (35:04):
Welcome back, beautiful New York tri-state area and beyond. You're
listening to A Moment of Zen right here on 710WOR,
the voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zen Sams.
Welcome back to the Lifestyle Edit, brought to you by
Melia Hotels International. Today's headliner is the one-way ticket that
changed everything. My guest is Nicolas Tizio, better known as

(35:27):
Nicolas Nomad. He went from an architecture degree and an
$ 11 an hour grocery store job during COVID through addiction, gambling,
seven evictions and homelessness to eventually rebuilding his life with
everything he owned fitting inside two backpacks. Then with $ 900
to his name, he bought a one-way ticket to Mexico. Today,

(35:49):
Nicholas travels the world full time, creating content for brands,
hotels and tourism organizations while mentoring other creators on building
location independent income. I love this narrative. And Nicholas, there
is so much more behind that Instagram feed. Welcome to
the show, superstar.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Hi, how are you?

Speaker 4 (36:08):
I'm so happy to be here. There's so much to
get packed into the next 15 minutes.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
OK, let's talk about rock bottom when everything starts. stopped working.
So let's start before the beautiful destinations and the laptop
by the ocean because I think we have to. So
you were 22 with an architecture degree. You'd spent four
years earning. You were working as a grocery store cashier
during COVID for $ 11 an hour. And then your life spiraled. Gambling, drugs, fraud,

(36:37):
court cases, fast money, designer clothes, cars, seven evictions. I mean,
I read the whole thing. Eventually homelessness. And almost everyone
you loved walking away. I mean, you've actually described this
chapter yourself as an ego death and spiritual rebirth. So
was there one true rock bottom moment when you finally

(36:58):
looked at your life and thought, I can't live like
this anymore? And what did that version of Nicholas have
to lose spiritually and emotionally before you could find the
right path?

Speaker 9 (37:07):
Yeah, I don't really think there was like one rock bottom.
I think it was just a series of events that
all just came.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
At one point. I'm like, I got to get out
of Philadelphia.

Speaker 9 (37:16):
I got to get out of this narcissist. To now,
to this day, I figured out I was actually in
a cult and people who are in a cult don't
really realize you're in a cult. And like I was
in a cult for those four years, I was in
a narcissistic relationship that evolved the gambling, the stealing, the everything,

(37:37):
the evictions. And I think honestly on that seventh last eviction,
I left Philadelphia with literally like my broken iPhone 12
that like my narcissist smashed all over the place. And
I went through so many iPhones that that's not even
like the tipping point.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
And that seventh eviction, there was like three.

Speaker 9 (37:57):
Other people living in my house, my apartment in Philly,
who I didn't even know at the time.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
That's a whole nother situation.

Speaker 9 (38:04):
But like that seventh eviction, I just left and called
it quits. I was like, this isn't working anymore. I left,
I changed phone numbers. I moved into my grandmother's house
for a month. And then I finally realized I'm like,
there's so much more that I could provide to this world.
I'm like, I've been like the past four years have

(38:24):
just been totally awful. And there was like points where
I was like sleeping on park benches and like stealing
money just to survive.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
And like, credit card stuff.

Speaker 9 (38:35):
And I try not to talk about it as much
because there are like some legal stuff still going on
right now with that whole situation. But I just finally
realized I can't keep living like this. So I just said,
I need to leave. So I literally left with.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
A backpack and like a t-shirt and a pair of Nikes.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
So I say, first of all, wow, your story is
is empowering because there's something very powerful about that idea
that sometimes the moment that feels like life completely falling
apart is actually the moment when the wrong life finally
stops working. And I imagine when you've lost the apartment,

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the money, the relationships, and all those external markers of
who you thought you were supposed to be, you're left
with a very uncomfortable question, right? Who am I without.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
All of it? You're left very raw. Like, what else
could go wrong? And you could only go up from here.

Speaker 9 (39:33):
And it took me so many trials and tribulations to
actually come.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
To that point.

Speaker 9 (39:39):
And I just realized, I'm like, I got to get
out of this environment. I got to leave whatever I
got to grab.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
I just got to go.

Speaker 9 (39:48):
And my brother booked... my one-way ticket from a bus
station in Philadelphia. And like my family completely disowned me too.
Like these people that I was dealing with, they completely
just like hovered me into their environment, their relationships and
closed down all barriers from other people I was dealing with.

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And that's how a narcissist works. And that's how cults work.
And only a couple months ago, I kind of came
to terms. I'm like, wow, I actually was in a
cult once. Um, and actually seeked like a, they're a
cult therapist. Um, so I was getting help for a
little bit and now I'm, I don't know, the past

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like couple of years after leaving that, I felt like that.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Was my therapy as well.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Now I want to talk about the $ 900 two backpacks
in a one way. Okay. So, so we, we get
to the headliner. You've, you've rebuilt your credit from You're
paying back debts. You're repairing trust with your family. You're
rebuilding your UGC work. And then eventually you have about $ 900.
Everything you own fits inside two backpacks. And you buy

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a one-way ticket to Mexico. Now, Nicholas, I'm a mother.
Part of me hears that and thinks, we just got
this kid back on his feet and now he's flying
to Mexico with $ 900? Because from the outside, that could
sound like another impulsive decision, right? What made that one-way
ticket different? from all the reckless decisions that came before it?

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And how did you know you were finally following intuition
instead of just chasing another high?

Speaker 4 (41:23):
I was free.

Speaker 9 (41:24):
I was finally free from the hoarder, from the cult,
from the narcissist.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
I haven't traveled in four or five years.

Speaker 9 (41:32):
And before that, like I studied abroad, I already traveled
to like maybe like 15 other countries. So I knew
that traveler in me just needed to go somewhere and
to escape this environment. Because in order to like, see
new things in order to open new flows of money,
you need to leave your environment, you need to go

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see what else is in this world. Because you sitting
in your hometown, you sitting in that apartment in New
York or Philadelphia, like those opportunities and experiences are not
going to come to you, you need.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
To go out and chase them. And When I booked
that one-way ticket, I didn't tell anyone. I was just like,
I just booked it.

Speaker 9 (42:13):
I booked a $ 70 one-way ticket to Cancun, Mexico. And
all I own fit into like two little backpacks, like
a 45 liter backpack and a 20 liter backpack.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
I had like scraps of clothes.

Speaker 9 (42:24):
It doesn't really matter. And literally with $ 900 in my name,
I was like, I'm going to rebuild my UGC business.
I'm going to rebuild what I was building for the
past couple years.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
And what.

Speaker 9 (42:36):
Like during that whole period, the four years, I was
building towards that, but it was always just like taken down.
I wasn't actually building on something. It was just like
kept getting destroyed.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
So now I could solely focus on my business.

Speaker 9 (42:49):
And what I want to do in this world's content creation, UGC. UGC,
if people don't know that, it's user-generated content. Basically, I
make content for brands and they use it for social
media purposes. Like you don't need to be a huge
influencer and everything. You make a lot of money from
it if you know how to talk and contracts and
talk on camera. But that just opened the floodgates to

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so much opportunity because I was finally free. I was
finally free from everything. And I bet on myself and
I knew I could do this. And a lot of
people have a hard time doing that, betting on yourself.
But like at the end of the day, what did
I have to lose? Like I don't have anything in
the United States. I was just like, what else do
I have to lose? I could go only up from here.

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And yes, there were highs and highs and lows and lows.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
But like, I love that. Like, that's the best part
of traveling and entrepreneurship.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
And that's the difference really between running away from your
life and running toward one. I mean, the geography may
look equally dramatic from the outside, but the intention underneath
it is completely different. Now, at one point you had
been evicted, I think seven times you said your relationships
were shattered and you essentially had nothing. And today you're

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talking to me from Ecuador. So if you could sit
across from that 22 year old Nicholas today or somebody
who or from somebody listening who genuinely believes they've screwed
up their life beyond repair, what would you tell them
is the first thing they have to do to begin
finding their way back?

Speaker 9 (44:18):
Get out of the environment. Your environment dictates everything you do.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
Do something new.

Speaker 9 (44:23):
You wouldn't believe the opportunities that would come if you
just do something different.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
Because I look at my parents, for example. They've been
working the same job.

Speaker 9 (44:32):
For 30, 40 years. And that's a lot of those
people with that generation. They still live in the same town.
They still do the same thing every single day.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
I left the environment. Look at all the opportunities that
I have in front of me.

Speaker 9 (44:45):
Changing your brain chemistry to seek new opportunities, it's hard
to do. But once you do it, like I said,
it's the best feeling in the world.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
For those of you listening, for those of you watching,
for those of you interacting and engaging, you can follow
Nicholas Nomad on Instagram at Nicholas Nomad. And of course,
you can check him out on TikTok and on Facebook
at Nicholas.Nomad. And you can head directly to YouTube as well.
He's on that channel. And you can also find his
creator work and mentorship at NicholasNomad.com. And whether your next

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trip requires a laptop, a little soul searching or preferably
a little bit of both, do discover Melia Hotels International
and their incredible global portfolio of travel. You can head
to melia.com. And of course, do follow me on the
gram at Zensams. That's at X-E-N-S-A-M-S. You're listening to A
Moment of Zen right here on 710WOR, the voice of

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Speaker 3 (46:14):
Welcome back, beautiful New York Tri-State area and beyond. You're
listening to A Moment of Zen right here on 710WOR.
the voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zen Sams.
I'm going to pass the mic to our Going Deep host,
Lana Kerr, for an exclusive conversation with the acclaimed producer,
Serena de Comarmonde. Lana, take it away.

Speaker 10 (46:35):
For those of our audience who don't know who the
amazing Serena is, please just tell us a little bit
about who you are.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Oh, God.

Speaker 11 (46:42):
I mean, I'm a human being trying not to die.
That's the primary focus of my life. But then I
make film and TV shows and I guess I have
this mantra that you need to be this change that
you want to see in the world. And I'm trying
to push forward the change I want to see in
the world through film and television.

Speaker 10 (47:02):
Oh, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (47:04):
So tell us a little bit about your journey then.
A little bit of your journey of how are you
here today?

Speaker 11 (47:09):
I mean, I finished high school, never went to university,
had a huge drug problem from 19 to 21. You
could find me on a dance floor, pumped full of
molly with glow sticks. And my trajectory in life wasn't
looking that good. But then I had a rock bottom moment,
as most people that dabble in drugs do, and had

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an amazing father who was able to scrape me off
the ground and sort of set me straight. And after
all of that happened, a fire was lit inside me.
I said to myself, well, if that didn't kill me,
And if I was able to get out of addiction,
then I needed to use that power that I had
there for something else. And so from the age of 22,

(47:52):
I became an entrepreneur and I worked in the hair
and beauty and wellness industry for 20 years. Innovating brands, products,
teeth whitening, makeup, hair products, you name it.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Did pretty well.

Speaker 11 (48:07):
Thought that that was my life. Thought I would be
doing beauty until I die. which was a great place
to be. But then one day I was randomly cast
on a TV show for Netflix called Instant Hotel. And
I went and made the show and I found my calling.
You know, I found my missing puzzle piece. Never even

(48:27):
wanted to be in film and television. But on that set,
I realized this is where I'm meant to be and
The rest is history.

Speaker 10 (48:35):
So then I know you said you wanted to change paths,
but you've got to change paths by being an actress.
Why producing?

Speaker 11 (48:43):
I mean, like I'm in front of the camera a lot,
but I don't do acting. I do investigative filmmaking. And
so for me, I like to go on adventures all
the time and so I like to take people with
me so that they can learn when I learn and
see what I see. I'm blessed with this weird ability
to manifest things otherworldly experiences. And that's why I really

(49:03):
wanted people to witness them with me. Like I've seen
alien mummies and, you know, spheres that fly through the
earth and, you know, I've just done all of these
crazy things. And so I just thought like I wanted
to be someone that other moms could look up to
and think to themselves, okay, well, if she can do it,
this little girl that lived in Australia with 2.4 children

(49:27):
in her suburbs with a few hairdressing salons, if she
can do it, then I can do it.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (49:34):
So doing this type of thing, I mean, you're, Serena,
I know you, you're always busy, right? you know, and
you're invested in other people's lives because I feel when
you do the kind of work you do, that's what
you're constantly looking and pouring. You really kind of pour
into other people to extract something from them. How do
you protect yourself emotionally?

Speaker 3 (49:54):
So I don't.

Speaker 11 (49:55):
Well, I see so much beauty in pain. You know,
like if somebody cries, I think it's just the most
cathartic and healing thing. You know, like some people are
always chasing happiness. I need to be happy. If I'm
finally happy, then everything will fall into place.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
I don't feel that way.

Speaker 11 (50:13):
I feel like we chose to live on earth for
this lifetime that we have here and choosing to live
on earth and be a human means that we get
the full spectrum of emotions. And so sometimes my clients
make me cry and break my heart with their stories,
but I love it because I got to feel, I
got to understand that And I got to identify a

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problem that maybe I can help fix.

Speaker 10 (50:39):
So last question, or really the signature question, what does
going deep mean to you at this point in your journey?

Speaker 11 (50:46):
For me, it's when you say to somebody, how are you?

Speaker 3 (50:49):
And they're like, yeah, I'm pretty good.

Speaker 11 (50:51):
You know, yeah, whatever.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Say to them, okay, well, but really, like.

Speaker 10 (50:56):
Really, how are you?

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Like, how is life?

Speaker 10 (51:00):
How are you going?

Speaker 11 (51:02):
How is your mental state? What is going on with you?

Speaker 9 (51:03):
How.

Speaker 11 (51:04):
are you? And then listen, because that's when the magic happens.
That's when you'll truly get to know someone. And that's
when you'll truly have the opportunity.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
To help them.

Speaker 12 (51:15):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (51:16):
Well, thank you so much, Serena. Serena DC. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
Thanks for including me.

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