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Welcome to A Moment of Zen. Time to sit back
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I'm your host, Zen Sams. We have a packed show today,
starting with hormones, melasma, and motherhood. The skin changes no
one warns you about. Joining me is Jessica Clark Higgins,
founder of Higgy Skin. She's a licensed esthetician, certified acne specialist,
and expecting mom, bringing a uniquely personal perspective to pregnancy, hormones,

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and changing skin.

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Then game set wellness.

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Is tennis becoming America's hottest healthy obsession? DJ Mad Links,
ESPN tennis host and analyst and USTA ambassador joins us
to talk about his evolution from hip hop culture to
the hard courts and why tennis, fitness and hydration have
become part of his own reinvention. Then we go beyond
the signal with the invisible experiment. We're talking EMFs, brain health, children, animals, frequency, medicine,

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and navigating our increasingly wireless world with Dr.

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Chris Motley.

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He's an alternative health practitioner specializing in traditional Chinese medicine,
frequency medicine, and kinesiology. And finally, the great wealth transfer.
Will your family inherit a legacy or a financial mess?
Michael D'Antuono, founder of ProVest Innovative Wealth Strategies, joins me
to launch a conversation connecting parenthood, health, longevity, wealth, and

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Welcome back to the Better, Brighter You series brought to
you by Cispera. Today, we're talking about something millions of
women experience, but we still don't talk about nearly enough,

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what hormones can actually do to our skin. We hear
so much about the famous pregnancy glow, but pregnancy and
motherhood can also bring acne, sensitivity, dark spots, and melasma,
otherwise known as the mask of pregnancy.

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And while some of.

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Those changes fade after delivery, for other women, pigmentation becomes
a frustrating recurring battle. Joining me is Jessica Clark Higgins.
She's founder of Higgy Skin. She's a licensed esthetician and
certified acne specialist. Her relationship with skincare started personally after
struggling with acne throughout high school and college. A former
collegiate track and cross-country athlete, At Ole Miss, she eventually

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traded a career in sales for aesthetics, earned her license
in 2020 and opened Higgy Skin. I love that name.
In Denver back in 2021. Today, her mission is refreshingly simple.
Cut through the overwhelming skincare noise and help people find
routines that can actually trust and feel confident in their
own skin. She's also a wife, mom to daughter, Wynonna.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
And currently 18. expecting baby girl number two.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Congratulations on that one, making today's conversation about hormones, pregnancy,
and changing skin particularly personal.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Jessica, welcome to the show, superstar. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
I'm so excited to be here.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Oh my goodness. When's your due date? Congratulations. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
I'm actually due Christmas Eve.

Speaker 7 (04:38):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
Which is crazy. I know.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Now let's talk about the pregnancy glow reality because you're
living it. So I have to start with this idea
of pregnancy glow because culturally we've made pregnancy sound like
nine months of fabulous hair and glowing skin. And that's
certainly not every woman's experience, right?

Speaker 7 (04:56):
No.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
So you're living this professionally and personally right now. What
has your own pregnancy taught you about hormonal skin changes
from acne to pigmentation? And what do you wish women
were warned about before pregnancy rather than discovering it in
the mirror?

Speaker 1 (05:13):
So I've been dealing with melasma in a non-pregnant situation
for almost 10 years now. And then with pregnancy, it
got really bad. I started talking about it more to
my clients and online. And now I would say... 30%
of our clients are pregnant women with melasma because it
has become my mission to help women with this condition

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because it is very stubborn. Unfortunately, once you have it,
it can go into a remission state, but you're never
cured from your melasma. So it's kind of always in
the back of your head. And I wish that women
just understood more of how it comes about. It tends
to be hormonal. It gets worse in heat and sun.
Zapping it with a laser makes it worse. You can
get bounce back pigment. Waiting until you're not pregnant to

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treat it can make it really frustrating and can really
affect you mentally. It affected me mentally when I was
pregnant and breastfeeding because it was all I saw when
I looked in the mirror, even though I just done
this amazing thing. So I really want for women to
be a little bit more proactive about it to understand
you can treat it when you are pregnant, when you
are breastfeeding, you can get results. And then when you

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have your baby, when you're finished breastfeeding, you will notice
your skin go back to better than it was before
because you've been doing all these proactive treatments.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
I love that because I think we have to normalize
the fact that pregnancy glow and pregnancy skin problems can
exist in the same woman.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Now let's talk about melasma bootcamp.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
So Marcy told me about your melasma bootcamp and I
immediately thought, okay, I want to go to the class
because melasma seems to be one of those conditions where
women say, I got rid of it.

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And then it came back.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
And what you said at the beginning, and this is
where the science has really evolved. Suspera's latest 2026 educational
guidance describes melasma, not simply as excess pigment, but as
a chronic multifactorial condition involving active melanocytes, inflammation, oxidative stress,
vascular changes. barrier dysfunction, and environmental triggers. That list right

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there reframes what we thought melasma was. So put me
through melasma bootcamp. Jess, why is this condition so notoriously stubborn?
And what's the biggest mistake women make when they're trying
to get rid of the brown patches without understanding what's
actually driving them?

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, so I'll work backwards. So the biggest mistake women
make is zapping it or peeling your face off because
melasma responds to inflammation. So a laser is heat. It's
putting inflammation into the skin. A peel sometimes can go
too deep when we see those videos of women's skin
just flaking off. That can go too deep and it

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can make inflammation worse. And that's going to get rid
of your pigment for maybe a week or two, maybe
even a month or two. And then you're going to
get something called bounce back pigment. And that's that melanocyte
responding to the inflammation or the heat that you've put
into the skin. So while you get these incredible before
and afters from a laser or a peel, you don't
really get the six month follow up with that patient.
And usually their melasma comes back. sometimes in a different place,

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sometimes in the same place. So what melasma responds really
well to is very slow, very controlled exfoliation over a
period of time. And we have had an acne bootcamp
for about six years at my clinic. And it works
because it's slow, it's controlled, and you get long-term results
as your skin responds to products and treatments. And no

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one was doing that with melasma. And melasma is just
as stubborn, if not more stubborn than acne. And it
needs to be treated even more slowly so that you
don't get that inflammation or barrier disruption in the skin.
So the Melasma Bootcamp that we've developed is very, very
light treatments in office, but really focusing on that home
care where I tell clients 80% of your progress comes

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from home care. It's the exfoliation you do every single day,
just like going to the gym. You get more results
if you work out five days a week than if
you go to a personal trainer once a month. So
we think about our esthetician the same way. You need
to do your home care seven days a week, and
then we're just kind of the icing on top.

Speaker 8 (09:14):
Bam.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Now I want to chat about the Suspera conversation. It
brings us beautifully to our Better Brighter You partner, Suspera,
because we're seeing a much more sophisticated conversation around pigmentation ingredients.
So the current Suspera intensive formulation contains 7% cysteamine. Where
does cysteamine fit into the modern melasma conversation versus something

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like hydroquinone? And what makes an ingredient like this interesting
when you're building a long-term pigmentation strategy rather than chasing
another overnight fix?

Speaker 1 (09:46):
We've known about it for a long time, but it's
just become something that has been able to be packaged
and put on the skin in a tolerable way. But
the amazing thing about it is unlike hydroquinone, which you
have to cycle on and off, it can also cause
that bounce back pigmentation. because of the inflammation it puts
into the skin. This is a really healthy ingredient. It's
not going to damage the barrier because it's not a

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leave on product. You rinse it off. So because the
contact time is short, That's what I love about it
is the contact time is short. And so you're not
going to disrupt anything else in the routine. It works
well with everything. It's not going to damage or thin
the skin. You use it every day for 12 to
16 weeks, which is really manageable for people. And then
you can use it once or twice a week forever,

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just depending on how your pigment is and how it's responded.
And then they have other, Suspera has created other products
that can help manage pigmentation over time. Again, without disrupting
that barrier, without causing bounce back pigment and without causing
additional inflammation.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
In the skin.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
So they've really revolutionized this idea of treating pigment with
basically a mask, which I think is amazing. And my
clients have been loving because it doesn't disrupt their life
in any way.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Well, we are at the end of our date, my dear.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
I love your story because you took something that once
challenged your own confidence and turned it into an expertise
that now helps other women feel better in theirs.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Thank you. It's been really a fun journey.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
To learn more about Jessica Clark Higgins, her skincare philosophy
and her treatments, you can visit HiggySkin.com and you can
follow Jessica on the gram at JessClark underscore and HiggySkin
at HiggySkin underscore. And to learn more about Cysteamine technology
and solutions for stubborn pigmentation and uneven skin tone, you
can visit Cyspera.com.

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Welcome back to the Hydration with Heart series brought to
you by Once Found a Coconut. Today, we're talking hydration, wellness,
and reinvention onto the tennis court because something extraordinary is
happening to tennis in America. A record 27.3 million Americans
play tennis in 2025. Now, that's nearly 10 million more
players than in 2019. That's a 54% increase in just

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six years. Almost 5 million people tried tennis for the
first time last year, and adults over 35 drew of
nearly 95% of the sport's latest growth. And right here
in New York and northern New Jersey, 2.6.

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Million of us played last year.

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So today's headliner is... Game, set, wellness. Is tennis becoming
America's hottest healthy obsession? And my guest might be one
of the best examples of just how dramatic tennis culture
itself has evolved.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Now, if you grew up.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
On hip hop and BT, you probably remember DJ Mad
Lynx from Rap City and 106 and Park. His career
has taken him from radios, clubs, the Grammys, and billboard
events to some of the biggest stages in professional tennis. Today,
he's an on-air host and analyst for ESPN Tennis, has
appeared across Tennis Channel and T2, worked events surrounding the

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US Open, Miami Open, and Taste of Tennis, and and
shared those environments with everyone from Rafael Nadal and Nick
Kyrgios to Venus and Serena Williams. Now, he's also, and
this is the best of this conversation, a USTA ambassador,
and he's expanding tennis culture through Royalty Racquet Club. But today,

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I want to know about the man behind all of that,
because somewhere between the nightclubs and the tennis courts, Links'
relationship with his own health, fitness, hydration, and wellness changed too.
So we're talking about what happens when your career evolves
and your body and priorities start evolving right along with it.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
DJ Mad Lynx, welcome to the show, superstar.

Speaker 9 (14:25):
Thank you so much. Glad to be here.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Okay, so I want to chat about the pivot.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
So people can look at your resume now and think
this was all some perfectly calculated career trajectory, right? BET,
Rap City, 106th and Park, radio, major music events.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
I mean, then Tennis Channel, ESPN, the US Open and
the USTA.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
OK, this is a perfect little roadmap. But careers and
lives rarely work that neatly. So you came from an
entertainment culture of late nights, travel clubs, nonstop schedules and
just constantly being on. And somewhere along that journey, tennis
didn't just simply become another gig.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
It became part of your identity and your lifestyle.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
So, Lynx, I want the story people don't know. What
was happening in your life when tennis went from something
you worked around to something you personally fell in love with?
And did that transition coincide with a moment when you
realized your health, your body, and the way you were
living needed to evolve too?

Speaker 9 (15:26):
Well, the truth actually is I got involved in tennis first.
I always say that I'm not sure if I found
the sport or the sport found me, but there was
something that was very unique about watching these two individuals
on a tennis court that spoke to me differently than
other sports, team sports to be specific. Watching as a
kid and you're seeing these people who aren't that much

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older than you made it feel oddly attainable. I really
did love the one-on-one aspect of it. There was nobody
to blame in case you lost and there was nobody
else to thank except your team. It really was all
on you. You had to play offense, defense, problem solving.
So all these things really just really appealed to me.

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So that was something that I found that as a kid.
Tennis is a very expensive sport. You mentioned some of
the numbers that have come up since the pandemic, which
has really been the seminal moment of racket sports, not
just tennis, but pickleball, paddle, Squashes, Cena, Resurgence, all these
different racket sports. And now we're seeing the numbers explode
across the board. It was the one thing that you

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could kind of do almost anywhere that still allowed for
where we were at at the time.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, that's the part of... Reinvention I love. I love
that tennis came first.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Flipped the script on me there.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
And you didn't make this pivot in a vacuum of
why tennis is suddenly everywhere, like you just said. Those
statistics are straight from references. America is having a full-blown
tennis moment, without a doubt.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Participation is up, like.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
I said, 54% since 2019. You've got 27, 28 million
Americans that played just last year alone. And women, interestingly enough,
added another about 1.1 million players in a single year
and almost 5 million people try tennis for the first time.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
I mean, these are statistics that like to your.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Point, it's having a moment and I'm watching something beyond
participation links. We're seeing tennis collide with fashion, celebrity, music, luxury, wellness,
and social culture because that's at the base of it all.
People don't simply want to watch the match anymore. They
want to participate in the actual lifestyle. Like tennis apparel
is so expensive. I'm like, I, I wanted to, you know,

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there was an event happening. I'm like, Oh, let me
just go get an outfit.

Speaker 9 (17:41):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
That's there's no such thing. Like it's a whole culture.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
So you've lived in both worlds, music culture and tennis culture.
Why is tennis suddenly resonating? I think culturally in a
way we haven't seen in years. And What does the
entertainment industry understand about creating moments that you think tennis
is finally learning to embrace?

Speaker 9 (18:00):
Well, I think it's really a renaissance more than anything else.
The original leisure wear was tennis wear. Nobody was walking
around in the 70s and 80s in football jerseys or
basketball shorts, but they were wearing tennis gear. So the
college shirt, the polo, was invented by a Frenchman by
the name of Henri Lacoste. And he was one of

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the four musketeers, a legendary French player who innovated the
fashion style of the day. So in the past, men
would be playing in full, long button-down shirts. Women would
be playing in full-on dresses. And he revolutionized the fashion
of the day to make it more accessible for athletic purposes.

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So you go back into the 70s and 80s, the
days of John McEnroe, Bjorn Borg, Jimmy Connors. That was
a big time for tennis in America as well. And
before that there was a WNBA and before that there
were a lot of other women's team sports, women had
been a part of this sport. Again, dating all the
way back to another beautiful French player, Suzanne Legland. So

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we can take a look at the moment and the
WNBA is having a moment. It could be debated what's
happening with that moment right now, but the women have
always been right there. And if you are a young
woman who is looking to be a professional athlete, what's
great is the fact that That is a sport that
is really on par, speaking in regards of the finances,
with what the men are able to do. So I
think that's always been a very special part of it.

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And the fashion has been a part. Look, it's been
a tennis skirt summer for at least the last three years.
And once you get the women wearing the apparel, now
they want to get a racket in their hand. Now
they want to be able to go out and be
able to experience what that feels like. And the part
that the racket sport world needs to really get a
lot more comfortable with is the solos.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Aspect.

Speaker 9 (19:50):
So I think pickleball, Adele has done a great job of, hey, look,
I don't know how to play this sport, but it
seems fun. So I want to come out and hang out.
It's done a great job with that. Tennis, we're kind
of dragging that part of it to be able to
match what the other racket sports have done. But I
think we're well on the way. You're right.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
That's the viral piece. The sport hasn't changed overnight. The
culture surrounding it really has. And suddenly the court is
becoming a place for fitness and fashion and music and
community and content all at once. And it's really driving
the next chapter and the next wave. Look at, I mean,
in terms of cultural sports, look at the US Open. It's,
you know, one of the biggest things we celebrate here.

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I mean, everybody and their mother tries to get tickets
to the US Open and get a glimpse of the
celebrities and.

Speaker 9 (20:39):
It is, sorry to interrupt, but it is actually the
biggest sporting event in the United States. It even supersedes
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Now I want to move on to the body. Your
body doesn't care about the scoreboard, right? So now here's
where hydration with heart enters the court. Tennis has an
unusual problem. There's no clock telling you when you're finished.
And according to USTA sports science guidance, in warm to
hot conditions, an adult singles player can lose approximately one

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to two and a half liters of fluid every hour
through sweat. So under extreme conditions, you know, observed sweat
rates have climbed even higher. The USDA also says that
dehydration affects performance in less than an hour. So potentially
sooner if you arrive at the court already dehydrated, which
so many people do. So after spending so much time

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around elite players, Lynx, What's something the pros understand about
hydration and preparation that the weekend player completely gets wrong?
And how has being around professional tennis changed the way
you hydrate before, during, and even after you play?

Speaker 9 (21:47):
Well, you mentioned the one key word, preparation. And you cannot,
in regards of hydration, catch up once it's gone. So
if you think that you can start just hydrating once
you get on court, you're fighting a losing battle. Skating
uphill is not even a close enough metaphor. So these players,
much like most really skilled professional athletes on varying levels,

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understand that the hydration is something that has to be
done well in advance. You have to start that process
because the hydration has to get all throughout the body.
It has to get into the muscle fibers. It has
to be there in order for the body to have
access to it. And one of the things I love
about Once Upon a Coconut as a person with Trinidadian roots,
and it is one of the greatest natural remedies and

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tools for hydration. And Once Upon a Coconut has done
a great job of really honing into that and giving
us something with some great taste to suffice and give
us the ability to deliciously hydrate as much as we
need to.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
All right.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Now, as we wrap this up, let's chat about from
Rap City to Racket Club and what's next.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
So what's your vision for Royalty Racket Club?

Speaker 2 (22:54):
How do you take everything DJ Lynx learned from hip
hop and entertainment and use it to make tennis feel
younger and more inclusive.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
And more social? cheaper and frankly, more fun for the
next generation?

Speaker 9 (23:06):
Well, you know, I know inclusivity can have a little
bit of a political connotation and it's a hopping word.
So for me, it's about access because somebody may not
want to be included and that's fine. Maybe they want
to play golf instead. And I know somebody who I
met recently at a Padel event and had no interest
in tennis and listen, hey, that's fine. As long as
you're doing something That's healthy for you and whatever activity

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you choose, that's great. But the access is what's most
important to me. The World T-Racket Club is a club
without walls. The theory behind it is get better together.
So we create a community for people to be able
to engage, learn together, be able to set the proper foundations.
So the club is wherever the players are. And we
can do pop-ups any place across the globe for the

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Lynx experience, as I call it, where we infuse music. culture,
great hydration, like with Once Upon a Coconut, my partnership
with them, to be able to create a one-of-a-kind type
of experience on a tennis court that hopefully is able
to get people interested in the sport in ways like
never before.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
To follow DJ Lynx, you can check him out on
the gram at DJMadLynx. And for everything tennis, you can
follow him at djmadlinks.tennis and at Royalty Racquet Club. And
of course, stay connected with Once Upon a Coconut at
Once Upon a Coconut. That was the Hydration with Heart series.
We continue to explore the people, the habits, and stories,
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to be chatting about the invisible experiment. Your child, your home,
What is 24-7 wireless exposure really doing to the body? Well, tonight,
we're going to be separating legitimate questions from fear and
asking what we can actually do in a world where

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disconnecting isn't realistic.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Joining me is Dr. Chris Motley.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
He's a globally recognized alternative health practitioner specializing in traditional
medicine and traditional Chinese healing, frequency medicine, and kinesiology. He's
the host of the Ancient Health podcast and holds a
doctorate in chiropractic with certifications in acupuncture and kinesiology, and
neuroemotional technique. His philosophy is that physical, neurological, and emotional

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health aren't separate conversations. They're actually very much interconnected, and
an important distinction for tonight's conversation. Dr. Motley has spent
significant time studying EMFs and their potential effects on the body,
and he's also an avid user of Leela Quantum Tech.
Joining me right now is Dr.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
Chris Motley. Welcome to the show, superstar.

Speaker 10 (26:30):
Thank you, Zant.

Speaker 9 (26:31):
I appreciate it so much.

Speaker 10 (26:32):
I really consider it a privilege and for allowing me
to come on here and just have a good conversation.
I really appreciate you. And I love this whole conversation.
I love what you're doing and you have a great setup.
You have a great radio show. And again, just thank
you so much.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
All right, let's get to it. So before we scare everybody.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Into throwing their electronics out the window, I want to
establish what we're actually talking about. So phones and wireless
tech uses non-ionizing radio frequency radiation, right? That's fundamentally different
from ionizing radiation like x-rays.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Which has enough energy to damage DNA directly.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
And according to the National Cancer Institute, there are currently
no clearly established dangerous health effects in humans from RF
radiation at typical exposure levels beyond localized heating.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
Right.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
But you look at this through a different lens. When
you talk about EMFs affecting the body, what exactly do
you believe is happening biologically? And what do you think
mainstream medicine is overlooking? Because it's primarily looking for a
diagnosed disease rather than subtle biological changes.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Talk to me.

Speaker 10 (27:46):
I think, again, with the subtle changes that an EMF
radiation has, not only on the cellular level, but also
on what we call like your energetic bio layers, like
the membrane around your body. But I'll go into the
actual cellular area. If you have a low level EMF,
basically wave that's hitting your cells, one of the biggest
things that can occur is its impact on the cell

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membrane itself. And what you're seeing is that people who
have a constant impact of that radiation on their cells,
it affects the polarization of their membrane, which means it
actually can open up calcium channels. One of the biggest
things that they're finding is that the calcium channels on
your cell walls are They operate by voltage changes. So
whenever you have a change in voltage on the cell membrane,

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the calcium channels either open up or close down. What
they're finding is that when you have this type of
EMF hitting that gate, it opens up and allows calcium
to spill in. And also there's this heavy exchange of calcium,
which is very, very injurious to the body, especially if
it's in the brain where people hold their phone up
to their head, is because if you have imbalances in

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calcium within the area of the brain, It can often
be associated with certain conditions, even like with MS, because
our Alzheimer's, because you'll have high amounts of calcium floating
in the blood, but in the brain, and that can
actually contribute to amyloid plaquing. So you're starting to see
individuals that have imbalances of calcium, which can then lead

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to brain fog or memory issues or dementia. And when
this calcium channels open up, another fact is that when
you have too much radiation around you, You can also
open up the channels and your cellular levels to different
infections as well. So if you've ever had infections that
can cross the blood brain barrier, whether it's Babesia, Lyme infections,
even strep or staph, you not only get injury from

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the EMF, but also can get infection toxicities piling in.
So you'll see individuals that could have plaquing or injury
to their brain, right? And it could be from infections
pouring in and also calcium irregulation. The biggest key is
that when calcium gets to an imbalanced level, it will
cause you to change your nitric oxide, your oxygen species

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within your brain, and that causes a heightened amount of inflammation.
So you're starting to see where individuals nerves actually get
damaged because you have too much oxygen floating around and
nitric oxide. They're not normally used to help kill off infections.
Like when you pour hydrogen peroxide on a cut that
is used as oxygen killing your infection. But when they
flood in and you raise so much inflammation, it's a

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calling signal. There's something going on here. Let's get some
other people in here to help me out.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (30:22):
High amounts of inflammation. Then you'll start having dendritic injury.
You'll have nerves that actually get injured. And they'll actually
eat away at the fat layer around the nerve. And
so people have slower nerve signal. They could have infection toxicities.
So you start to see people that have brain issues.
What happens when you have high inflammation? And the argument
would be, Could gliomas be the result of this? Because

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you're actually asking your astrocytes, your glial cells to come
in and fight something off.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (30:49):
Sorry about that.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
It went too far.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
I love where this is going.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I want to streamline it because I just want, I
want to make sure the audience, we haven't lost them
scientifically here. It's an important distinction what you said. you're
not saying wireless technology equals disease. We're asking whether not
proven to cause disease and biologically irrelevant are actually the
same statement. I think because those are two very different standards.
And I think that's where the conversation needs to live.

(31:14):
So I love the distinction because you just went down
a rabbit hole that actually ties it all together. I mean,
forget what the evidence is showing. No one has actually
looked at it from this perspective.

Speaker 6 (31:24):
So I love that.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
That studious answer. Now let's talk the mom question. What
about our children?

Speaker 2 (31:30):
So this is where I stopped being just the host
and become the mother sitting behind the microphone because children
born today could potentially experience decades more cumulative wireless exposure
than us or even our mothers and fathers.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
So, you know, their parents or grandparents, this is a
very different generation.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
So I don't want to frighten parents with something science
hasn't actually established yet.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
But Chris, I mean, you know where this is headed.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
As a practitioner, does we haven't demonstrated increased cancer risk
give you enough reassurance when we're talking about a child
potentially beginning exposure in kindergarten and continuing for another 70
or 80 years? I mean, what precautions you personally think
are responsible for families without teaching children to fear technology?

Speaker 10 (32:18):
I totally want this conversation not to be about fear.
I always want it to be about grace and having
hope and When we do talk about a young person
who could be exposed to screens and tablets, EMF running
through the house, again, don't be afraid. But I would
say that when you talked about them developing when they're younger,
that is a huge issue. Because as you develop, remember,

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the brain's still developing, the nervous system's still developing. And
their body is busy building fats and myelin sheath, the
fats that insulate your brain and your nerves, very, very young.
And they're still trying to hardwire their nervous system. And
so when you have tablets and you have EMF, there's
one report that says that the average house at times
has six to seven different screens or different types of

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devices in the room. And whenever you have that EMF
or that radiation that's affecting, especially around the neurological areas,
around the brain and around even the whole body, you
have to make sure that that child's fat levels and
their intake of like omegas is at a decent rate.
And the reason being, I'm saying this, if they're in bed,
and they have an outlet right beside their head.

Speaker 9 (33:20):
That's one precaution.

Speaker 10 (33:21):
I would say you need to make sure that they
don't sleep with that outlet right beside because that EMF
could be affecting their brain. Another thing is like the
distance between their tablet and their face. Children who sit
too close to a tablet, I would say as a precaution,
not to fear the tablet, but to actually give it
a distance because there is usually the two to three
foot output of EMF from a tablet. And also to

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remember the number of screens, And even those Apple watches,
I'm not putting down Apple. I'm not at all saying that.
But when you think about that much impact on the
wrist and in Chinese medicine, they have what we call
meridians that are test pulse points. If you put a
battery right beside that, you could actually essentially be rerouting
the electrical system of the body. And that's what it's
about is how that RF, that EMF field is actually

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causing the body to reroute, not only in their nervous system,
but their electrical system, the body. We're basically electrical in
all aspects of our body. So Remember, distance between the screens,
keeping power outlets away from the head. And also, too,
diet has a whole lot to do with the child.
So if you keep that child strong in their diet,
you're going to build better fats around their brain, better

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fats around their nerves. And one other thing, I know
you talked about this on your podcast, and this is
a little bit science.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
I'm sorry, guys.

Speaker 10 (34:35):
But when we talk about conditions like MTHFR and all
of these things with liver toxicity, the more you support
the liver... the better your fat composition will be. And
so what we're seeing is you have to look at
it in a holistic, not just keeping away from the outlets,
but also good fats, proteins, even good starches to actually
feed and build their body.

Speaker 9 (34:55):
I hope that was sufficient.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
And then again, there are companies out there that are
clinically researched and clinically verified. I don't just wear the
Leela Q heel capsule because I just needed another piece
of jewelry on my neck.

Speaker 9 (35:09):
I wear it.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
To protect me, to protect my frequency, to protect my energy,
to protect my mitochondria and my inflammatory markers. And more importantly,
it really does help regulate even with circadian rhythm. And
I have a Leela block in my home and in
my daughter's room because she's constantly plugged in or on
her devices. you know, I do go the extra mile,

(35:31):
you know, maybe. And Chris, you actually use these products.
So forget that they're sponsoring the series for a moment.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Practitioner to patient, what convinced you personally about Leela Q?
What do you use? What have you observed?

Speaker 2 (35:44):
And when you look at physiological measurements like EEG, HRV,
muscle tension, and respiration, what would convince you that we're
seeing a meaningful biological response rather than simply a placebo effect?

Speaker 10 (35:56):
Whenever you have a device like a Leela Q, the
concept and the evidence is showing that if you can
have a device like a block and there is a
frequency or a wave pattern, a wave pattern, guys get that.
It is like a block that basically has built in
frequencies inside the block. And whenever something tries to pass

(36:17):
through that wave block or that wave concentration of wave
within the block, It's going to change the EMF radiations
that's passing through it. Just like when you, Zen, are
wearing like the necklace or whenever you have a small
block or a collar around your dog, it's taking that
EMF radiation and harmonizing it with your body. That's the attempt.

(36:39):
It's taking a big wave like in the ocean. It's
passing through the block and it's going to make the
wave a little bit more subtle, a little bit more
rolling instead of a huge crashing wave. That's what it
attempts to do. Now, in the office, what I have
found is that people's acupuncture systems have changed. Heart rate
variability has actually basically gotten so much stronger because this

(37:01):
is the key. When they have the Leela Q, remember
when we talked about the beginning, which was so nerdy,
we talked about all that calcium channels.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
Right.

Speaker 10 (37:09):
Calcium channels, if you have imbalancing calcium channels, what is
one of the first things that shows up is muscle tightness.
That's why you take calcium or magnesium to get your
muscles to relax. When you alter calcium with EMF at
a high level, your muscles will get tight.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
What happens to your heart?

Speaker 10 (37:26):
It contracts and your heart rate variability just changes. So
then you start to think, will you wear the device,
put it on the body, or you actually have it
in your room? You're harmonizing those frequencies of EMF to
the muscle tissue. And you'll start seeing that. You'll see
acupuncture systems in the office literally balance out. They'll have
a very high inflamed heart meridian and some liver and

(37:47):
they start to balance out their muscles turn back on
literally like at present time you'll go and test them
and they'll like their deltoids will be turned off they
put a glela q on turn right back on because
it's balancing calcium channels i know it's a lot to
say but i have a block i have a mini
block i've got uh the necklace i've And so my
friend Ben Greenfield is the first person that actually got

(38:09):
me turned on to it. And he gave one to
me and then Philip gave me one. So I was
just doing testing on patients and it seems to have
a really big effect on the body.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
That was Beyond the Signal series brought to you by
Leela Q.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
That was the incredible Dr.

Speaker 6 (38:23):
Chris Motley.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
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Speaker 2 (39:20):
Welcome back, beautiful New York tri-state area and beyond. You're
listening to A Moment of Zen right here.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
On 710WOR, the voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host,
Zen Sam.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Today, we're launching a brand new series, The Legacy Blueprint,
brought to you by ProVest Innovative Wealth Strategies. And yes,
we're going to talk about money, but this series is
really about something much bigger. What are you building and
who are you building it for? The great wealth transfer.
Will your family inherit a legacy or a financial mess?

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My new co-host understands this conversation professionally, but perhaps more importantly, personally.
Michael D'Antuono is the founder of Provest Innovative Wealth Strategies.
He began his financial career on the floor of the
New York Stock Exchange, where he worked as a specialist
and market maker before taking that financial discipline into entrepreneurship.
and his family's business, and ultimately building ProVest. But Michael

(40:15):
is also a father. He's navigating business, parenthood, health, and
the same questions so many parents quietly carry around. If
something happened to me tomorrow, would my child actually be okay?
Not simply financially. Would there be instructions, protection, liquidity, the
right people making decisions? Would the structures we've created actually

(40:36):
work when our children need them most?

Speaker 4 (40:38):
Welcome to the show, superstar.

Speaker 6 (40:40):
Thank you for having me, Zen.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
So, Michael, let's get into this. Where did the legacy
blueprint really come from? Was there a moment when being
a father changed the way you thought about money, health, protection,
and the word legacy and what the word legacy actually means?

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Great questions.

Speaker 7 (40:59):
So when my son was born, I always thought that
there would be a grandiose picture of life in general, right?
You have a newborn child. Everything couldn't be better, let's say.
But with the times and tribulations of way life unfolds
from financial perspective, from a physical perspective, health, et cetera,

(41:20):
you have to plan properly. And I think when my
son was born, one of the first and foremost things
that was set forth in my mind was how am
I going to structure my life to build that legacy
for my son and to pass it on to him?
And as much as physical performance is part of life, right?
being happily from a physical standpoint, we want to almost

(41:45):
manipulate the mental side of our planning stature. And that
means that not only are we going to the gym
and are we building that healthy lifestyle, we need to
do those tasks that are not so exciting, like planning
a future financially, right? Something with stability. getting that outlook of, okay,

(42:07):
the what-ifs in society and what-ifs in life and what-ifs
health diminishes or my finances diminish, right? So I think
a lot of people don't really look at that perspective.
And the first place to start is not just getting married,
but it is when you have a child. That's how
we start building our foundation for the proper legacy. Children

(42:29):
are our legacy. So we want to do that properly
and structure it to the point that Somebody knows that
everything is going to be safe when they pass on
and their children will definitely have that to lean back
on when they get that age too.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
And that makes this conversation completely different because suddenly legacy
isn't an abstract financial concept.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
It has a name and a face.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
It's the person you love who has to live with
the decisions you made yourself. and the ones that you're
making today. So this is the conversation I think could
scare every parent listening in a productive way. So we
get on airplanes, we take vacations, we drive our children around,
we live extraordinarily busy lives, assuming tomorrow will look exactly
like today. Meanwhile, caring.com's 2025 survey found just 24% of

(43:15):
American adults surveyed said they had a will.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
And a will is only one component of planning, right?

Speaker 2 (43:21):
So for parents of minor children, the question can become immediate.
Who would you want caring for your child? Who would
manage money intended for them?

Speaker 9 (43:31):
Where are the.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Insurance policies and accounts, right? Who has access to critical information?
Where does immediate cash come from while an estate is
being administered?

Speaker 4 (43:41):
I mean, the list goes on and on, and it's.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Not a list you want to cover without planning in
that moment.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Of despair, right?

Speaker 2 (43:49):
So, Michael, as a father yourself, if a parent listening
to us got on an airplane tomorrow and never came home,
God forbid, what are the questions they should have answered
before they boarded that flight?

Speaker 6 (44:00):
What are we assuming, right?

Speaker 7 (44:02):
If they got on that flight and they didn't come home,
are they assuming that their children are going to be
taken care of? Are they assuming that their finances are
going to be looked after? Are they assuming that their
homes are going to be sold properly and monies are
going to be dispersed, bank accounts? And then what about
all the debt that's left behind, right? People don't like
to talk about those things because It's reality, right? So

(44:25):
when people do actually get on a plane and they
don't have these things planned, we have to think about guardianship, right?
Or family drama, let's just say, to put it in
a lack of a better term, who's going to be
in charge of the estate? And as much as I
could tell people till I'm blue in the face that
they need to have this properly structured, wills and estates,

(44:47):
There's something that people don't like to talk about. They
try to almost circumvent it. But in reality, those are
the discussions that need to be had, right? And there's
a lot of that going around and people are not
willing to take the time to do it. And it's
not a costly process, but it is an intense and
very well thought out process that you need to do

(45:08):
your due diligence on. And I don't think enough people
actually take the time to do it. So that being said,
the biggest proponent of this is indeed life insurance. And
some people have that phobia that they don't want to
talk about death, but death is imminent. We are all
going to die. That is guaranteed. So how we die
is how we're going to build that legacy. But are

(45:28):
we planning it properly or are we just taking a
stab in the dark at our last moment, our last
hour and saying, I hope it all works out for
the rest.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Of the family?

Speaker 5 (45:38):
Yeah, that's the wake up You know, we prepare emergency
contacts for school and pack medications for vacation, but some
of us haven't created instructions for the biggest emergency our
children could ever face.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
So here's another misconception worth breaking apart. Someone can say,
my child gets everything.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
Okay, but when? How? Who controls it? Who manages it?
What happens while everything is being sorted out, right?

Speaker 2 (46:04):
So Michael, what mistakes do you see parents make when
they assume my child inherits everything means.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
My child is protected, right?

Speaker 2 (46:13):
What does foundational planning actually need to consider when minor
children are involved?

Speaker 7 (46:17):
Well, leaving money is not the same as creating a plan, right?
So it sounds like it is, but it's really not.
So you need to determine who's receiving the money, who's
managing it, right? The funds are coming from what sources, right?
in bank accounts or any types of existing trusts or
annuities or life insurance or cash value life insurance. And

(46:40):
it's not just who receives it and who manages it,
but when a child gains control, how is that being dispersed?
Who's the trustee? Who's the guarantor of the will or
the estate? We need to have this all in play.
And if it's not put in play properly through the
proper estate plan and the responsible management is not put
in play, then we're going to have issues. And families

(47:03):
more times than not do have these issues down the line.
And what you try to do is you try to
combat this earlier in stages of life when you're in
your 40s and 50s, especially in those critical times where
you're getting older, right, where health might be diminishing at
some point. Your children are starting to get in that 10, 12,
15 age range. We want to have this all set

(47:23):
in motion because there's going to be a lot of buildup.
And I'm not talking about buildup with just debt. But
we're talking about buildup of finances, buildup of concern, health concerns.
Everything starts to surmount as we get older. So when
the time we're parents and we're in our 60s and 70s,
is everything in play for our children that might be
expecting to start their families in their late 20s, early 30s?

(47:46):
We need to have that in play. And I think
when people think about what's in play, it's not just
about a trust, but it's the guidelines of education, right,
of housing, of health. You could say any kind of
milestones like having children or another marriage, any future distributions
of earnings from an investment perhaps or a sale of

(48:09):
a property or even stock distributions that the family has
in a fund that they're deciding that they're going to sell.
So that all comes into play as well. We have
to make sure that that's all covered. in a proper
and succinct format. And by doing that, we've actually building
that legacy that people don't want to talk about too often.

Speaker 9 (48:31):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
It's such an important distinction. Now, health is part of
the balance sheet.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
So I want to talk about something people might not
expect from a financial series, right?

Speaker 4 (48:41):
You clearly don't treat physical health casually. Look at you.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
We're living through this fascinating moment where people are obsessing
over longevity and biomarkers and strength and metabolic health and
lifespan and.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Peptides.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
Yeah, yeah, the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yet financial planning and longevity planning are often treated like
completely separate conversations, but they aren't. If we're successfully extending
healthspan and lifespan, suddenly retirement assets may need to support
30 or potentially 50 years of life.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
After someone's Primary working years, right? Think about it. So
why is health part of your legacy blueprint? What has your.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Commitment to physical performance taught you about discipline, longevity, and wealth?

Speaker 4 (49:28):
And do you believe we should.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Start thinking about our health span and our financial lifespan
as two sides of the same equation?

Speaker 7 (49:36):
When you're building wealth, you want to build your health.
People are getting healthier because of the ability to access
better medical attention. There are much more prominent health and
health protocols, I should say, that are available. And then

(49:57):
the medical research that supports it, plus gut health, mental health,
et cetera. Mental stability builds happiness. People live longer when
they are happy. How do you live longer if you're happy?
Because you're financially secure. Most people that live longer are
actually financially secure.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
It's a fact.

Speaker 7 (50:17):
And financial longevity and physical longevity marry each other perfectly.
That should be planned together. So when people are in
the gym and people are setting a lifestyle for themselves,
that translates into their financial ability to plan properly, to
plan that estate, right? They come out, they're healthy, they're
feeling good. What else is on the horizon for me? Okay,

(50:39):
I'm at peak shape. I have a regimen. I run
10 miles a day.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
I don't.

Speaker 7 (50:45):
But we are actually thinking that, okay, if we are
in a healthy lifestyle, what's next? Okay, I have to
be focused on my happiness. And how do I keep
that happiness? Through longevity.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Right, it's a compound effect. It compounds.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Exactly.

Speaker 7 (50:57):
And through longevity is financial means. What is the biggest risk?
when we get older, it's longevity risk. It's the risk
of living too long and outliving your money. People do
not weigh that factor in.

Speaker 9 (51:12):
All right.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
To learn more about Michael and Provest, you can head
directly to proveststrategies.com and you can follow Michael on the
gram directly at proveststrategies. You're listening to A Moment of
Zen right here on 710WOR, the voice of New York.
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adult lives. or rent a field or court with friends.

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Speaker 2 (52:00):
Well, that's a wrap, my dear friends. We are at
the end of our date. You've been listening to A
Moment of Zen right here on 710WOR, the voice of
New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zen Sams. Remember to
join me right here on A Moment of Zen every Saturday.
You could head directly to amomentofzen.com for live listening links
and episode downloads in your city. And also remember that

(52:23):
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Speaker 4 (52:42):
Thank you for listening to us. It's been an absolute
pleasure being your host.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Thanks again to all of our sponsors, partners, and advertisers
that continue to make this show possible. And remember, happiness
is the only thing that multiplies when you share it.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
We'll be back next week. And do remember to follow
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next week.