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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome to a moment of Zen. Time to sit back
and relax. As model, actress, mentor and super mom, Zen
SAMs takes you on a sexy and wild ride covering
the latest in film, fashion, pop culture, cryptocurrency, fintech, cannabis,
and entertainment from the millennial mom's perspective. Here's your host,

(00:29):
Zen SAMs.

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Welcome back NYC and beautiful Tri State area. You're listening
to a moment of Zen right here on seven ten WR,
the voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zen
Sam's celebrating six and a half years on air and
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Speaker 4 (01:15):
Welcome back to.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
A Moment of Zen, where, alongside our experts on the microphone,
we explore film, fashion, pop culture, cryptocurrency, cannabis, fintech, and
health and yes, everything in between, always through the lens
of the millennial mom's perspective.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
In our Lifted by Science segment brought to you by
a COEO two Lift, we're.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Exploring the modern landscape of plastic surgery and how today's patients, technologies,
and next gen surgeons are reshaping the field.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
We're going to be joined by doctor Anthony Nye.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
He's an aesthetic plastic surgery follow at West End Plastic
Surgery in Washington, DC, and he's a bored, eligible, esthetic
and reconstructive surgeon known for blending technical precision with artistry
and wellness. In the Elevated Experiences segment brought to you
by MTKNYG Group and the mtk ny Travel Club, my
next guest is Leanne Lockin, television personality, entrepreneur, philanthropist, and

(02:09):
the cultural force best known for the real Housewives of Dallas. Today,
we're talking about evolution, access and elevated living, from navigating
public life and personal reinvention to how travel, environment and
relationships shape the next chapter in the Brain Blueprint segment
brought to you by the Mililo Centers. Joining me is
Mackenzie Westmore, actress, singer, producer, entrepreneur, and founder of Wesmore Beauty,

(02:33):
alongside my co contributor, doctor Robert Milillo, world renowned brain expert,
bestselling author and founder of the Milillo Centers. Today's conversation
explores add ADHD and the right brain advantage, how creative
minds process the world differently, why emotional regulation matters, and
how understanding brain wiring can turn overwhelm into strength. Stay

(02:55):
tuned for today's Clean Collective segment, brought to you by
Society Brands featuring Wolf Tactical. We're redefining what clean living
really means in a modern, high exposure world. Joining me
is Kate Nolty, also known as Tuloom Trainer. She's a
season fitness expert, founder of The Quick Minutes, and creator
of Kate's Real Food Guide. Today, we're talking about tactical strength,

(03:17):
resistance training and why building physical resilience through movement, including
weighted vest training, is becoming an essential pillar of clean,
intentional living.

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Speaker 4 (04:01):
Welcome back, beautiful Tri State area.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
You're listening to a Moment of Zen right here on
seven to ten WR, the voice of New York iHeartRadio.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
I'm your host, Zenzams.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Welcome back to the Clean Collective segment brought to you
by Society Brands. We're having a conversation that goes far
beyond skincare labels and ingredient decks, because clean living in
today's world isn't just about what we eat or what
we put on our bodies. It's about how we build
our bodies. So the question becomes, how do we live

(04:31):
clean in a world that isn't. My guest today believes
the answer lies in movement resistance and real world strength,
building bodies that are resilient, adaptable, and prepared for modern life.
Joining me is Kate Nolty. She's also known as the
Tuloom Trainer all over social media. A season fitness expert
with over fifteen years of experience, founder of the Quick

(04:54):
Minutes video series and Kate's Real Food Guide, Kate specializes
in online coaching for women who want real, sustainable results.
Today we're talking tactical strength resistance training and why tools
like Wolf tactical weighted vests are becoming part of a smarter, cleaner,
more resilient lifestyle.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Kate, welcome to the show, Superstar.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
Thank you very much for having me back.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Okay, let's get right to it. Let's talk about clean
living redefined, so Kate. For years, clean living has been
framed around food labels and skincare ingredients, but the CDC
tells us We're exposed to hundred of chemicals daily through air, water,
and household products, and even furniture and clothing.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
So from your.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Perspective, From your perspective, what does clean living really mean
in today's world? And why does movement and strength training
belong in that conversation.

Speaker 6 (05:45):
When I think of clean living, I think about the
five pillars of health your food, your exercise, your sleep, hygiene,
your stress, and your hydration. So if I'm looking to
live clean in a realistic way, of those five pillars,
I'm going to look at my movement because that's something
I can do every single day that doesn't necessarily need
to cost anything, and I don't need to then be

(06:06):
part of something or make.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
It very complicated.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
So clean living, to me, starts with movement every single day.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
Everybody can walk. Everybody can walk every single day. And
when you find the rhythm of walking with intention and
walking to then be a clean human in the world,
your mind changes.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
The thoughts change.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
You're gonna be thinking about on your walk, what am
I going to have for my first meal of the day,
What am I gonna then drink later in the day
In terms of my hydration, Wonder what time I'm going
to go to bed tonight, wake up tomorrow morning. So
I find daily movement as probably the most obvious pillar
of clean living and a way to own it. Strength training,
of course, would be next level in terms of everyday movement,

(06:48):
and it just provides I think, the body in your
mind with a defense.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, and that toxic load definitely lessens with movement, right
because you're you're excreting those toxins. You're sweating them out,
and they're not staying. They're not staying stuck within your
detox patterns. So I love what you're saying, and I
love that you emphasize consistency over perfection. That idea that
movement itself is one of our most powerful protective tools

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is incredibly empowering. Now, why resistance training is non negotiable?
That's kind of where the conversation is headed. So strength
training is no longer just about aesthetics. The American College
of Sports Medicine reports that resistant training supports bone density,
insulin sensitivity, hormone regulation, and longevity, especially for women as

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we age. Why do you believe resistance training has become
non negotiable for modern women?

Speaker 5 (07:40):
I feel like if the.

Speaker 6 (07:41):
Goal of a modern woman is to be independent in
the world and to be able to not be afraid of,
for example, perimenopause and menopause that's coming, because that's going
to be a season in which our bodies are going
to deteriorate so much faster than men. So strength training
is not only physically, yes, going to increase your bone
dens because that is rapidly going to be going down

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to that season of life, and also maintain muscle mass
that's also going to be decreasing really fast, and the
irregulation of our hormones. It's going to help ease that imbalance.
Besides all of those important things physiologically, psychologically, it builds
your self confidence so that as challenges come and as
the physical discomforts come with aging with perimenopause and menopause,

(08:26):
a woman can anticipate that that's coming and have again
like the grace and the mental reps to manage it,
to tell herself, I can handle.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
The frost and shoulder. I feel really irritable today.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
My back hurts, I'm feeling a little bit, I'm feeling anxious,
I'm feeling this wave of insecurity. Well, I did do
my push ups last night. I you know, wore my
weighted vest and I did the walk this morning.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
So if I can do that, I can do this.

Speaker 6 (08:56):
It's sort of like this check and balance system with
your habits and behaviors and being able to access that
to then handle the next thing that's coming.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
It's such an empowering message because strength is self care
is not punishment.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
It completely shifts the narrative.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
So let's talk about tactical strength and real world function.
Have this training with that added resistance, whether it's a
weighted vest or you know, plates in the backpack, translate
into real world strength and confidence outside the gym.

Speaker 6 (09:26):
The stronger your body is, the more capable you are
of doing whatever it is that you want to do.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
That's why I was.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
I was visiting my mom last month in Connecticut, and
she's eighty two, and she's strong.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
She has no health issues.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
She is vibrant, she does quick minutes every day, she walks,
she strength trains, she plays tennis.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
She's eighty two. She runs for the ball.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
And something I always say to her at the end
of every visit is Mom, I need you to keep
doing what you're doing because I need you to be independent.
And you know I lost my dad six years ago,
and she's been extremely ware that she needs to maintain
her independence, which is her physical strength for a reason
to get out the door, for a reason to get dressed.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
She wouldn't be able to do all.

Speaker 6 (10:11):
Of those things if she didn't maintain her physical strength.
And she knows that if she maintains her physical strength,
she's going to maintain her mental strength.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Everything you're saying is resonating with me so much. Right now.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
My mom is in her sixties and just had hip replacements,
exactly exactly my grandmother. My grandmother is in her eighties
and she's she has dementia. And these are women who
never exercised. So let's talk about weighted vest training and performance. So,
weighted vests like those from Wolf Tactical are being used
more widely, not just by athletes, but by everyday people.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Focused on functional fitness.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
And when you look at the research in the Journal
of Strength and Condition and Conditioning, it shows that weighted
vest training can improve cardiovascular efficiency, muscular endurance, and core
stability when used appropriately. So, from your coaching lens, how
can wait to vest safely elevate workouts? Especially for women

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focused on mobility and longevity.

Speaker 6 (11:12):
So, and if we talk about how strength training as
just a tool is your first line of defense against
managing physical discomfort and bondy deterioration, then the weighted vest
is just the most comfortable entrance way into strength training
because it's not intimidating.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
It's not the vision of a woman putting in a.

Speaker 6 (11:33):
Barbelle on her back and doing a deep squad, which
may seem, you know, so far away from her reality.
But that's just one style of strength training. But strength
training is any external load that is heavier than what
you have carrying around that is going to give you
all of the health benefits.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
When you're putting on a weighted vest.

Speaker 6 (11:52):
It offers the general population, especially women, access to a
really simple version of strength training. Eventually, of course, I
want all women to have some iron in their hands
and do squats and deadlifts and shoulder presses, but that
might be too soon. So when you see a woman
or anybody in the general population who's wearing the weighted vest,

(12:14):
knowing what it's doing, giving her fighting bone density, raising
her metabolism, helping her regulate her hormones, and again a
huge confidence boost.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
She's doing her part and she can do that every
single day.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
And the beauty of wearing a weighted vest is that
it's wrapped around your core. Core strength is about supporting
your spine right, and so many people who are deconditioned
have this sort of posture or variation of it that's
core strength falling apart.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
That's like wilting away.

Speaker 6 (12:42):
And when you wear a weighted vest, it's actually it's
quite comfortable because the load is wrapped in a very
efficient way, so that you can walk up the stairs
like that, you could turn and pick up the baby,
you could.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Squat down and pick up something off the floor.

Speaker 6 (12:56):
The weight doesn't have to be in this black and
white strict format like you would see in a gym.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
So again, it's just.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
This opportunity to have strength train translate outside of a
gym setting to everyday movement. It's a fantastic tool for
so many people to jump on this resistance training path
in a the least intimidating way.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Now I want to talk about the clean collective mindset.
So when you zoom out, clean living isn't just about
removing talks. It's about building resilience. So if you could
give women one starting point toward a cleaner, stronger, more
resilient lifestyle.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
Where would you tell them to begin mindset?

Speaker 6 (13:37):
If the conversations you're having with yourself are not absolutely
cheering yourself on the you are not building optimism, creativity, joy, gratitude,
then it's going to be a really hard day ahead.
The pushups and the squads and the traffic is nothing
compared to the discipline and that high value.

Speaker 5 (13:59):
Mindset work that I do every single day.

Speaker 6 (14:02):
If I'm not talking to myself that way and filling
my cup, then the day is going to overwhelm me.
And then it's so much more work to manage the
next thing and the next thing, and so mindset one
hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
You can follow Kate Nolty on Instagram at Tuloom Trainer,
you can explore her quick Minutes training series and you
can learn more about her programs focused on mobility, strength,
and real world resilience. To our listeners, this has been
the clean collective segment brought to you by Society Brands
and Wolf Tactical.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
We'll be at back after this.

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Speaker 4 (15:03):
Welcome back, beautiful Tri State Area.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
seven to ten War the voice of New York iHeartRadio.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
I'm your host, zen Zam's in are lifted by Science.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Segment brought to you by a COEO two Lift. Today
we're joined by doctor Anthony Nye. He's an aesthetics Plastic
Surgery fellow at West End Plastic Surgery in Washington, DC.
Originally from Indianapolis, he earned his medical degree from the
University of South Carolina School of Medicine, Greenville, and completed
his plastic surgery residency at Virginia Commonwealth University, where he

(15:35):
served as Chief Academic Resident. He's a BORED eligible aesthetic
and reconstructive surgeon specializing in both male and female aesthetics,
passionate about blending artistry and wellness to help patients look
and feel their best, and today he's helping us unpack
how patients, technology, and the new generation of surgeons are
actively reshaping the future of plastic surgery. Welcome to the show, Superstar,

(15:58):
Thanks so much for having me so excited. So, doctor Ny,
the landscape of plastic surgery looks very different than it
did even a decade ago, and today's surgeons are entering
the field with more exposure to cutting edge technology, got
three D simulations, regenerative medicine, and minimally invasive techniques than
ever before.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
And that's actually interesting and.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Ties into the bigger picture because according to the American
Society of Plastic Surgeons, over seventy percent of current aesthetic
innovations have emerged within the last fifteen years, meaning younger
surgeons are often trained directly on the newest standards rather
than having to adapt later. Yet the public still carries
the misconception that age automatically equals expertise. So what are

(16:42):
some common misconceptions you've encountered about younger surgeons like yourself?
And how does your training or even your approach differ
from those trains, say twenty or thirty years ago.

Speaker 7 (16:53):
Yeah, I mean that's a great question and it's pretty
easy to answer it. So training now or what I
did is actually different from those surgeons in the past.
So it used to be, you know, you would do
medical school, then you would do a general surgery residency
most commonly followed by fellowships and plastics followed by fellowships
and whatever sub specialty of plastics you went into, whether
it's it's esthetics or hand or microsurgery. Uniquely, now, the

(17:17):
most common way we train here in the US is
we do medical school and then we go straight into
plastic surgery right out of the gate. So for me,
that was six years of training right after medical school
of really intense plastic surgery from the day I graduated
as a doctor. So that's a little different. So we
are eating breathing plastic surgery from the minute we get
our doctorate, which I mean for some there's arguments pro

(17:40):
and against. Some people say like, well, the general surgery
background is great your broad spectrum, but there are those
like myself that argue this intense specialization and the broad
nature of plastic surgery, which is already broad enough, just
really helps set us apart and get us down the
road faster to help serve our patients. You know, misconceptions

(18:01):
that I still get all the time, or that I'm
too young, or am I still a student, or am
I still interning with the senior partner in the office.
But no, it's correct. I've done all the training. I'm
ready to go. But you know, it's kind of ironic
that people will say, like, oh, you're too young, because honestly,
in the field, that's the goal, right, We're supposed to

(18:22):
be like looking too young for a lot of these things.
But you know, you just explain your background to people
and then they get it pretty quickly after talking to you.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, and now we're watching procedures evolve that lightning speed,
right from ultrasound guided injections to regenerative fat grafting to
AI assisted imaging. I mean, patients don't always realize how
dramatically the toolbox has expanded, and a recent ASAPS report
found that over forty percent of practicing surgeons say keeping
up with new technology is now one of their biggest challenges,

(18:55):
which gives younger.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Surgeons who trained with those tools built in and built
in advantage.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
So how does being recently trained, if you will, help
you embrace new tools and techniques that older surgeons may
be slower to adopt, but still balancing those modern approaches
with a respect for the classic principles of plastic surgery.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
For sure.

Speaker 7 (19:15):
It's a great question. Also, I love that you said
principles of plastic surgery because that's what my education was.
My education was teaching me what are the core aspects
of plastic surgery. Principally we're not like general surgeons and
the fact that when you want your your crawl bladder
taken out, you'd prefer not a lot of creative expression
and that so you want them to do the same

(19:36):
thing over because we know what's safe. Yeah, for plastics,
we have that creative expression. So it's more principle driven.
You know, when you mentioned like ultrasounded assisted injection of
fillers or other that to me is really my standard
because that's what I mean. Ultrasound is a huge part
of our technology and trading. So for me, this just

(19:58):
makes common sense, like, of course we're going to do
everything we can to do the best and safest result
for our patients. Whereas I've had this conversation with people
established in their career who feel maybe they don't need
to do all these things, and I understand they're getting
great results as well and they don't potentially need that
as well. But I like to be able to offer

(20:19):
things for myself that I'm going to get the best
and safest result for patients. It's all about safety for me.
It's about our patient goal, but then also being safe.
So yeah, maybe I do incorporate things a little bit faster,
but I'm also listening and learning to people's experiences as well.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
That's fascinating and honestly so reassuring because patients want innovation,
but to your point, they also want safety and timeless techniques, right,
and you explain that blend beautifully. So let's chat about
regional and generational trends in DC.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
So DC is such a unique market.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
It has this interesting mix of politics, academia, corporate culture,
and a rising younger demographic. Nationally, we know millennials now
make up the fastest growing groups seeking esthetic treatments, and
geography heavily shapes aesthetic preferences. For example, coastal cities tend
to lean more towards subtle, refined results, while other parts

(21:16):
of the countries few more dramatic.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Okay, so how.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Does DC's specific culture influence the types of procedures patients
choose there? And do you see differences in preferences among
younger versus older patients?

Speaker 7 (21:29):
For DC one hundred percent, we have our own aesthetic.
It's the natural result that people don't know something has
been done. They want to look perfect, and no one
know that they've had something adjusted or worked on. So
it does change based on when you compare to other
coastal cities like Miami or Los Angeles. Our aesthetic is different.

(21:50):
Did I end up in DC because I think that
aligns more with how I view things for patients. Now,
you're always listening to your patient. It doesn't matter where
you live, so you're going to look for your patient's
goals no matter if the community at large has one aesthetic,
you're going to work with your individual patients. So even
though maybe the city has a vibe, it doesn't really

(22:13):
matter because when you're in the room, it's just you
and that person. So I think that although to answer
your question, yes, DC has its own aesthetic, does that
really matter on the day to day it can, but
also like talk to the person in front of you
and find out what they want and where their vision is. Yes,
for differences and older and younger, it's kind of cool.

(22:35):
As a plastic surgeon that's young, I'm kind of starting
off with people that are often more my age. They
feel comfortable coming to someone who's younger. Is the general
then none of this is like hardcore or hardline, but
they tend to do more corrective things as opposed.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
To aging related changes.

Speaker 7 (22:54):
But when I've talked to my more senior mentors, as
they did the same thing when they were younger. So
maybe it's more corrective things in the youth that are
more balancing your own anatomy, and it's not so much
aging related phenomena. But you age and your patients age
with you, So then they're going to come in ten
or twenty years and start doing procedures that are more

(23:15):
age related. So yes, those are your facelift times or
the effects of time you're gonna start correcting as opposed
to just balancing who you are as a person at baseline.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
So now we're absolutely in a recovery revolution, all right,
the new era of recovery if you will. Ten years ago,
most patients didn't talk about lymphatic drainage, red light therapy,
hyperbaric oxygen hydration protocols, or regenerative postop care. Now, platforms
like real self report that over sixty percent of patients
consider recovery time a deciding factor when choosing a procedure,

(23:47):
and that's where CO two lift and other evidence based
tools really shine, supporting tissue healing and minimizing downtime, which
is key. So how do you guide patients through that
recovery period?

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Do you have any specific go tos in your post
procedure protocol?

Speaker 7 (24:03):
One hundred percent, and I would actually expand it, so
I know what you're saying. It's all about recovery period
and we're really trying to like zone in on that,
but I would expand it. It's really more perioperative timing.
So what are you doing before surgery, what are we
doing during surgery, and then what are we doing after surgery?
All of those things actually maximize your recovery. So you

(24:24):
mentioned CO two lift, which is a product that I
really love and I learned a little over a year ago.
I actually was at a conference with some people that
I highly respect in this field, big names and plastic surgery,
who have done the research, worked with these companies and
have operated for years. They told me about it, I
started using it and learning about it myself, and then

(24:45):
now was able to help bring it on board here
at West End recently. So we are including it in
kind of our idea for how to optimize. You know,
we're starting that facelift population, but I think it's so
important to do before surgery as well as after surgery,
because you're really priming the skin ahead of time, getting
your skin if it's healthy, it's facelined before you do

(25:06):
the surgery, as well as them doing it after. You
mentioned lymph lymphatic drainage for post procedure that can also
be incorporated before surgery as well diet and nutrition, optimizing
your nutritional status before surgery as well as leading it
on afterwards. We've had the growth of regenitive medicine you
mentioned as well. We are using exosome therapies a lot,

(25:29):
whether or not that's in hair restoration or skin, using
it in our pre and post procedural protocols as well.
So I think the combination of these co two lift
with exisome therapies is going to be huge for patients
with procedures, whether that's a big thing like a facelift
or maybe something minor more like micro needling and a

(25:50):
lasery surfacing. They all have their utility. A huge fan
of those technologies right now.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Well, that was that. We're at the end.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
We are at the end of our date, my dear,
I really learned a lot. Thank you for coming on
and sharing your incredible knowledge.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
Our platform loves experts on the microphone like yourself, so
thank you so much.

Speaker 7 (26:09):
Well, thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
That was the incredible doctor Anthony Nye, aesthetic plastic surgery
fellow at west End Plastic Surgery in Washington, DC and
board eligible plastic surgeon. Definitely follow him on the gram
at doctor ni the Plastics Guy and learn more about
west End Plastic Surgery. You could head directly to their
website at west Endplasticsurgery dot com.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
We'll be right back after this.

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Welcome back, beautiful Tri State Area and beyond.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
seven to ten WR the voice of New york iHeartRadio.
I'm your host, Zen Sam's welcome back to the Elevated
Experiences segment, brought to you by MTK Group and the
MTK Travel Club. Where travel isn't transactional, it's curated, and
luxury isn't louder, it's smarter. Reinvention is the ultimate destination.

(27:28):
We're chatting evolution, access and elevated living because reinvention today
isn't just personal, it's experiential. It's about where you go,
who you surround yourself with, and how intentionally you design
your life. My guest today lives that philosophy in real time.
LeAnn Lockin is a television personality, entrepreneur, philanthropist, and cultural force,

(27:51):
best known for the Real Housewives of Dallas. Raised in
an unconventional environment and shaped by resilience, She's built a
life defined by reinvention and elevated self expression.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
She's also deeply.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Passionate about travel, not as content but as context, a
way to expand perspective, curate relationships, and choose environments that
support growth. Leanne, Welcome to the show, Superstar.

Speaker 9 (28:16):
Hi.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
I'm glad to be back. So excited to have you back.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Now I want to chat how Real Housewives entered your life?
So reality television today is the multi billion dollar industry.
You know this, and it shapes public narrative and personal brands.
But despite the scale, entry points are often personal.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Not strategic.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
So how did the Real Housewives of Dallas first come
into your life and what made you say yes to
stepping into that role?

Speaker 9 (28:44):
You know, it's interesting because it came into my life
disguised as something else, not Real Housewives of Dallas. It
came into my life scripted as how to make it
in Dallas. And I've always been someone who believes in
personal growth and teaching others how to make connections, to
get stronger and to grow bigger. So for me, it

(29:05):
was an opportunity to really at the time, I was
highly involved in charity and nonprofit and it was an
opportunity for me to showcase some of these tiny, tiny,
tiny nonprofits that no one would ever hear about and
give them a national platform. So when it came to
me is how to make it in Dallas, I was like, well,
this is how you make it in Dallas. I was
very blunt. I was very like, this is how we

(29:27):
do it. And then of course after filming it, it
converted into Housewives, which then became a whole new different
vehicle and which I'm I'm grateful for because I certainly
got the ability to extend a tremendous amount of life
stories to people across the world and connect with people

(29:48):
across the world, which was my biggest, biggest bonus of
being on the show.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Now, I want to chat about public scrutiny and drama
and career impact. So separate from how you got there,
these shows come with emotional consequences and the psychology and
media psychology and media research shows prolonged public scrutiny can
I actually alter self perception and increase stress and impact

(30:14):
long term decision making when your life is edited and
judged publicly. Right, So, how did hav in your life,
the drama, the relationships, the emotional highs and lows played
out on screen shape you personally and how did it
affect your career trajectory?

Speaker 9 (30:29):
I will say this, the most unexpected thing about being
on television and having my life showcased on television and
then not being a part of the editing process so
that it could be edited anyway they want. The most
positive thing that it did for me was I took
it as a therapy. I watched myself on television and

(30:51):
I could sort of see things.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
That I liked and see things that I didn't like.

Speaker 9 (30:56):
And then adding the public scrutiny is just pure toward sure.
Because most of media, social media is driven, the loudest
portion of social media is also the smallest portion of
social media. So that's something that I always try to
make sure people in the limelight know that the loudest

(31:17):
percentage is not your overall answer what's really happening. But
it taught me. It helped me grow and become the
woman I am today. It helped me become stronger, helped
me become more effective, and it showed me parts of
myself that needed to change and that I gratefully changed.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
I mean that's looking at the glass half full, right,
not half empty, and visibility without a doubt opens doors,
but it also demands evolution. So that brings me to
the next I want to talk about the biggest life lesson.
So behavioral psychology research shows that people who intentionally reflect
on adversity develop greater resilience and clarity in future chapters.

(31:59):
What is the single lesson life has taught you to date?

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Not to quit? Not to not to quit?

Speaker 9 (32:08):
Honestly, like I think you know, saying no and walking
away sometimes is a healthy thing depending on the situation,
But overall, what is it that you were trying to
gain from that situation? So if it's a relationship, if
you're in a bad relationship, yes, saying no and walking
away is a healing process to learn a new way
to live. But overall, if having a relationship is what

(32:31):
you want, don't quit. You know, for me, it was
that not to quit. I've I've always been a person
who loved being a part of television and it seems
that my reinvention has a cyclical cycle of about four
to five years. And I'm grateful every time God puts
it on my plate because I say, yes, I love

(32:51):
what you just said. And now, travel style and experience preferences.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
So when you look at the studies those from Harvard
and Cornell, it shows that experience purchases like travel create
longer lasting happiness than material ones, especially when travel is
immersive and intentional.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Now, when you.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Travel, Leanne, what kind of experience are you drawn to?
Immersive culture, a true beach reset or blend? And do
you prefer traveling solo with friends or with family?

Speaker 9 (33:20):
Well, I'm lucky enough that right after COVID, I came
out with two of my dearest friends that live in
Florida and we created Eternal Traveler magazine and we traveled
during COVID and we still travel today.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
And I don't I'm not a solo traveler.

Speaker 9 (33:39):
I am the kind of traveler that needs to be
pushed a little bit to go to the extra late
night party instead of just staying in my cabin.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
But I do.

Speaker 9 (33:49):
I will tell you I cannot agree more with memories
and moments over things. There are moments from our travels
that will forever be something that we can laugh about,
joke about. To this day, we still have multiple moments

(34:13):
of things we've done, you know, on our trips that
we'll send pictures to back and forth of each other,
you know, and it's just like you just laugh, You
just laugh. And to be able to create a moment
like that where you can always look at that and laugh,
that is priceless. And that is why travel, I think,

(34:34):
especially with friends and family, is priceless. You can't replace
it with things. I don't care how great the air
mess bag is, it's not it will not last as
long as moments in time spent enjoying and laughing.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
That's travel is nourishment, not escape.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Right there again, you're at that next elevated level of
just even being.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Aware of who you are. You're very motivational. I love
I love this narrative, and I love where the conversation
is heading. Now.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
I want to talk about favorite destinations and twenty twenty
six trends. So looking at twenty twenty six, this year,
forecasts from Skift, Virtuoso and the WTTC highlight a shift
towards slow travel and cultural depth and access and trending
destinations are now including Japan beyond Tokyo, southern Italy, Portugal, Morocco, Iceland,

(35:26):
and select South American cities.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
So what are.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Some of your favorite destinations in the world and which
places are calling you next?

Speaker 4 (35:34):
I want to know some insider tips. I will say that.

Speaker 9 (35:40):
A Mediterranean cruise that I took in twenty twenty four
was just one of the most wonderful trips that we've
ever taken, my two friends and I've ever taken together.
We didn't choose all of the cruise's exterior activities. Sometimes
we rea searched the city and we did our own thing,

(36:02):
and we ended up in the most amazing, you know,
cafe built into the hillside overlooking a private beach, and
it just the Sangria was whoa. I love the Caribbean,
I love the Mediterranean. I really didn't get enough time
in Barcelona. Would love to go back and spend more

(36:22):
time in Barcelona. I'd love to spend more time in Ibiza. Honestly,
for me, it's never really been so much about the.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
Destination unless it had to be warm.

Speaker 9 (36:32):
But it's also about who you go with, and so
to make it an overall true experience, take people that
you love that when you're done, you know you you
sit back down and you go, God, that was great.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
Where's next? Wow? This has been such a great interview.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
We could continue talking for another thirty minutes on life
and lessons and whatnot. I'm so honored that I got
the chance to talk to you firsthand and really just
I mean, this has been a great interview.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Thank you to EMPTYK Group and the empty K NYC
Travel Club, curators of elevated experiences built on insight, access
and intention. And you can follow the amazing LeAnn lock
In on the Gram and on x and across all
social media at lean Lockin.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
We'll be right back after this.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
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Speaker 4 (37:46):
Welcome back, beautiful Tri State area.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
seven ten WR, the voice of New york iHeartRadio. I'm
your host, Zen Sam's Welcome Back to the Brain Blueprint
segment brought to you by the Malilo Centers. Today's conversation
is one so many people are living, whether they have
the language for it yet or not.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
ADD, ADHD even ticks.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
They're often talked about as disorders, problems to fix, medicate,
or manage, but neuroscience tells us that's an incomplete story.
So ADD, often used to describe the inattentive presentation of ADHD,
and ADHD itself are neurodevelopmental conditions that affect attention regulation,
emotional regulation, impulse control, and executive function. What research and

(38:33):
clinical experience increasingly show is that many people with ADD
and ADHD are highly creative, intuitive, and emotionally perceptive traits
often associated with right brain dominant processing. When that kind
of brain is unsupported or out of balance, if you will,
it can look like emotional overwhelm, difficulty focusing or prioritizing, anxiety,

(38:54):
and burnout. But when it's understood and supported, it can
become an extraordinary strength. So today we're not talking about
fixing brains, We're talking about understanding them. Joining me as
always is the expert who helps us translate brain science
into real life, doctor Robert Mililo. He's a world renowned
brain expert, bestselling author, and a founder of the Mililo Centers.

(39:14):
And I'm so excited to welcome our guest into this conversation,
Mackenzie Westmore. She's an actress, a singer, a producer, an entrepreneur,
and a mother and a lifelong creative. From her early
work in film to her decade long role on Passions,
to hosting a face off and building wes Moore Beauty
into a global brand, Mackenzie has built a career fueled

(39:35):
by intuition, creativity and vision. She's also been very open
about recognizing add traits in her own life and about
advocating even for her son when his brain needed support,
clarity and care. Mackenzie, Welcome to the show, Superstar. Hi,
thank you so much for having me, Doctor Mililo. So
glad to have you back on.

Speaker 10 (39:55):
It's always a pleasure, Thank you.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
So, research shows that ad D often looks different in women.
Less hyperactivity, more internalized overwhelm, emotional intensity, and mental fatigue,
which can delay recognition. For years now, you've shared that
you were never formally diagnosed Mackenzie, yet you clearly recognize
add traits in yourself. When did you first realize your

(40:18):
brain worked differently, not incorrectly.

Speaker 11 (40:21):
I love that you put it that way, that it's
differently and not incorrectly. Thank you, because I think some
people do have that tendency to say there's something wrong
or it's there's never there should never be a negative
stamp on these things.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
You're right, it's just different. I can't really say that
there was a specific time.

Speaker 11 (40:38):
I just know that when I was around twelve, my
mom was the one that saw that there was something
different with me, and she had me go through the
testing to find out that I had trette syndrome. So
with the diagnosis of Tourette's, that's what then propelled me
through the years to see changes happen as I got
into my twenties. Then that's when panic disorder started. I

(41:00):
ended up in the hospital multiple times thinking I had
a heart attack.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
It was not, it was panic attacks.

Speaker 11 (41:06):
And I started to then really learn and be on
this mission to understand brain chemicals. And ironically, when I
was in between jobs and really couldn't get a job
of in Hollywood, I ended up working for a holistic
doctor and started to study delpamine, gabba serotonin and really
wanted to understand the brain chemicals and what was it

(41:29):
that I was going through and to maybe help other
people what they're going through. But really I just I
wanted to know what am I dealing with here? And
as time went on, I do find that, you know,
even though I don't have a formal diagnosis of add ADHD,
I definitely can feel and see that there are things
that I will go through and deal with. I mean,

(41:50):
then I think we talked about this, you know, the
amount of notes that I have on my.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
Phone, timers, calendar logs, I mean, it's people look at
my phone, They're.

Speaker 11 (41:58):
Like, OMG, there's thousands of notes in You're no path.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
The amount of tech I think I had. I looked
today and I have like seven hundred unread texts. So
it's things like.

Speaker 11 (42:11):
That where I just I have to go back through
and mark unread so that my brain will see the
blue dot.

Speaker 12 (42:16):
And like I've it's almost like hypnosis to these some
of these things of what I have to do and
look for to keep myself on track, because there is
so much that goes on in my life that I
can't miss a beat.

Speaker 10 (42:28):
A clinical perspective, this is just a great example of
you know, we throw labels out there like aed, ADHD,
U turets and not really understanding the complexity of what's
actually happening in the brain. Like you said, you start
you search for chemicals, but it's a lot more complicated
than that. It's not just chemical imbalances. It's a lot

(42:49):
more and there's a lot of comorbidity, which means that
you know, again you look at ADHD, but you also
started with tourets, and we know that in most cases,
people that are labeled with ADHD also have at least
one or two other diagnosises, most commonly Tourette's or even
autism or OCD. Those are overlap with each other. So again,

(43:14):
just looking at a label it really doesn't explain. And
each person is an individual. And that's where I've already
spoken about, and I've developed what's called functional neurology functional neuroscience,
which is about really understanding what exactly happens in the brain.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
This is a very important part of the conversation.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
So Mackenzie is a highly highly successful individual across all
areas of her career. So it's interesting because many adults
with add or ADHD rely on external systems, like Mackenzie said, notes, reminders, routines,
not because they're incapable, but because their brains thrive with support. So, Mackenzie,

(43:53):
you've talked about using tools and systems to stay on track.
Do you see those as limitations or as supports that actually.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
Protect your creativity? Does it work for me personally? It
supports me, It helps me. I know some people it
would probably drive the nuts.

Speaker 11 (44:08):
But for me, if I don't keep like my list
of notes, if I don't have my list of two dos,
I have a continual to do list just as that reminder.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
So for me it's a massive help.

Speaker 11 (44:20):
And I've even made it to the point where I've
put my husband on the calendar so that if I
miss something, God forbid, he's right there on it to
help me. You really, to me, it is it takes
a village in any area of life, but for me,
in this specific area what we're talking about, it is
it takes a village to have those around me that
help to go, Okay, this is what we need to do,

(44:41):
this is where we are at. So it is it
for me. It does help. And I know, you know,
we talked just briefly earlier about my son. You know,
he also has add and was diagnosed at a very
young age.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
He does the same thing.

Speaker 11 (44:53):
I realized the other day. He was on his phone
and I thought it was just a teenager on his
phone and he was like, no, I'm making notes. And
I was like, oh, of course you're my kid. Of
course you're making notes.

Speaker 10 (45:03):
Yeah. Well, you know, most people, because they're never really
addressing the root cause, they're taught how to manage it. Right,
So medication is really a management tool. Using different calendars
or activities is about managing. It's not about addressing the
root cause. But you know, managing is good, it's fine.

(45:25):
I mean, obviously trying to manage it in your life.
But the real answer is to try to get to
the root cause. And there are different types of ADHD
that people don't know, and they require different types of effects,
and they are all superimposed on this whole neurodivergent movement
of traits, and in fact, you know I always say

(45:46):
that and that all of these things are more likely
to happen the more gifted you are, the more gifted
your child is, the more gifted, the stronger an area
of the brain is. It may cause a disconnection with
other network but it's so dynamic. This is why you're
able to Actually, you know, when you're working and and

(46:07):
the camera comes on, you're literally able to suppress it. Yeah,
because it's a functional imbalance, but you can not knowing
what you're doing. You can overcome it at times, but
you're not able to sustain it. But that means it
can be changed and it can be corrected.

Speaker 11 (46:24):
Is there like cures for it? Because I've always been
told there is no cure for turettes. There is no
cure for add It is a lifelong thing and I
just got it, and I'm finding that as I get older,
the threats is getting worse.

Speaker 10 (46:36):
Honestly, That's one of the things that bugs me the most.
The people that tell you that if you ask them
what it is, they'll say, we don't know what it is.
I don't know, I have no idea. But they'll turn
around and tell you that you can't do anything about it.
So this started me on this road because my son
was labeled with ADHD and I went to all these
different doctors and therapists and friends and people that I

(46:57):
thought would know, and I said, well, what is it?
And they all said, well, we don't know. Nobody knows,
I think, but there's nothing you can do about it anyway.
And I said, wait a second. You just said you
don't know what it is, but you know you can't.
That doesn't make any sense. So the fact, if you
really understand the brain, if you understand functional neuroscience, you

(47:17):
understand that when there is no damage, there's no genetic mutation,
there's no chemical imbalance, there's no injury. Why can't you
change it? What would premit that? It doesn't make any sense.
And yes, So my book Disconnected Kids, as well as
eight other books that I've written, as well as over
one hundred scientific papers, are all about how do we
change this system in the most comprehensive way. And we

(47:41):
work with tens of thousands of patients and we do
it every day at the most severe level, and we
can completely eliminate without changing the neurodivergence, meaning that they
still keep their unique personalities, their unique traits about them
that make them special. But we can take away the

(48:02):
thing that is causing the text or the OCD, or
the hyperactivity or all of those things.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
One thing that I just it's coming to mind is, Mackenzie,
you said you were diagnosed with ticks and turets right
in Touret syndrome.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
So Touret's is not a behavioral issue, right.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
It's really, like to doctor Milillo's point, rooted in brain
based regulation differences, particularly and I've learned this by doing
all these segments of doctor Milillo in the circuits that
manage movement and impulse control and inhibition. And what many
people don't realize is that there's a strong overlap between tics, turets,
and ADHD and all of you OCD and sensory processing differences.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
So this tells us a lot.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
We're not just looking at isolated symptoms, right, We're looking
at how the brain regulates attention and emotion. This is
fascinating conversation. Now, you mentioned your son earlier. What helped
you trust your intuition and pursue support for your son
when something didn't feel right?

Speaker 11 (49:00):
What happened was it was during that period where I
was working in the holistic medicine side of things and
was studying more of you know, the brain chemicals and
how they affect us.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
I'll never forget.

Speaker 11 (49:15):
He was about six or seven, and we were seeing
obvious signs. I mean even down to his first grade
teacher calling me and saying that come. You know, during
certain testing times she would have to let him go
into the yard of the school and just run run laps.
She knew well enough, and so she brought that to

(49:35):
my attention that he was the was he and maybe
like one other kid in the class where just they
had to go run, they had to burn off the
energy and then they could come back and they could
take their test. And he came to me one day
and he said, you know, Mommy, my brain hurts. I
don't know what to do. My brain hurts. And that
just as a mother breaks your heart, because it's like
you you know that mama bear comes out. It's like, okay, well,
I'm on a mission now to find out what's going on.

(49:57):
And I had always been told that coffee was the
kind of and doctor, you can correct me if I'm
wrong in this, but at least at the time I
was told coffee with it, especially with a child.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
I knew it was going to go one of two ways.

Speaker 11 (50:07):
Either if I got him a Venti frappuccino as much
sugar and coffee as I could get in this kid's
system around eight o'clock at night, and I knew he
was either going to go to sleep or he was
going to be wired and I'd be staying up with him.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
It put him to sleep. So I found that so fascinating.

Speaker 11 (50:24):
That's when I called his pediatrician the next day and
I said, Okay, we got something here.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
I want to do some deeper digging into this.

Speaker 11 (50:30):
And that's when you know we were able to get
to the bottom and the root of what was going on.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Now, despite how common ADD and ADHD are, we know,
stigma still exists, especially in creative industries.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
Where burnout is normalized.

Speaker 9 (50:45):
Right.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
So if you if you could reframe ADD or ADHD
for creatives in one sentence, not as a diagnosis, but
as an identity, what would you want people to understand?
I would want people to understand and to be more patient.
I would love to see more patients.

Speaker 11 (51:03):
Among people in understanding and even for those of us
that do deal with this, to be patient with ourselves.
That's something I've had to learn. I've had to learn
to be patient with myself and not beat myself up,
to not put myself down, to not speak negatively to myself,
but to allow myself to be okay with this.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
And I am okay.

Speaker 11 (51:22):
And that's why I'm on this mission now of being
more open to advocate and help others to know that
there is nothing wrong.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
We're different, We're hardwired differently.

Speaker 11 (51:33):
So the biggest thing for me is understanding that and
patience patients with others and patience with ourselves.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
And that reframe alone can change someone's relationship with their
brain forever what you just said.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
To learn more about add ADHD and brain based balance,
you can visit the Mililo Centers because understanding the brain
changes absolutely everything. And you can definitely check out doctor
Robert Mililo at doctor Robertmililo dot com and on the
gram at doctor Robert Mililo and also Mackenzie has a
personal page at m Westmore.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
We'll be right back after this.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
A Moment of Zen is brought to you by the
Malillo Method Centers, where Hope Truly lives, specializing in ADHD dyslexia, autism,
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create personalized treatment plans that go beyond symptom management. Using
advanced neuroscience, they help children and adults reach their fullest potential.

(52:25):
Families worldwide choose the Malillo Method for answers and results.
Begin your journey to better brain health at Dr Robertmolillo
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Speaker 4 (52:34):
Well that's a rap beautiful tri state area.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
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seven ten woor, the voice of New york iHeartRadio. I'm
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Betrayal Season 5

Betrayal Season 5

Saskia Inwood woke up one morning, knowing her life would never be the same. The night before, she learned the unimaginable – that the husband she knew in the light of day was a different person after dark. This season unpacks Saskia’s discovery of her husband’s secret life and her fight to bring him to justice. Along the way, we expose a crime that is just coming to light. This is also a story about the myth of the “perfect victim:” who gets believed, who gets doubted, and why. We follow Saskia as she works to reclaim her body, her voice, and her life. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at betrayalpod@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.

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