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that fuel the body, the mind, and the heart. Welcome
to episode two hundred and forty two, celebrating six years

(01:37):
on air. In the We Play It Forward segment, we're
covering childhood Alzheimer's from rare diagnoses to relentless advocacy. Tune
in as we impact the devastating realities of San Filipo syndrome,
often called childhood Alzheimer's with Noel Patchel. She's a mother,
Navy spouse, relentless advocate, and a major social media influencer.

(02:00):
In today's Hydration with Hard segment brought to you by
One upon a Coconut, we're talking about something interstellar and
perhaps well extraterrestrial. Is it Visitors or Visions? Three I
Atlas has everyone talking. We're gonna be chatting alien intelligence
and the math behind the mystery With the incredible Robert

(02:20):
Edward Grant. He's a returning guest. He's a true polymath
and best selling author of philomath. In our Going Deep segment,
brought to you by Co two Lift, we're joined by
a powerhouse couple in plastic surgery, doctor Rampton Casir and
doctor Sheila Malek Casir. Together they're breaking down the new
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are helping patients heal faster, improve outcomes, and redefine post
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we honor Zuza turning loss into legacy, a first look
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Patchel in the We Play It Forward segment covering childhood Alzheimer's.
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Welcome back, beautiful Tri State Area. You're listening to a
Moment of Zen right here on seven ten woar the
Voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zenzams. This
is our special WE Plate Forward segment presented by the
We Plate Forward Foundation. Today we shine a light on
a devastating but little known, rare disease, San Filippo syndrome.

(04:57):
It's a genetic disorder affecting about one in seven twenty
thousand births worldwide. Often it's called childhood Alzheimer's. It robs
children of their ability to walk, talk, and eventually even
recognize their loved ones. Tragically, most children with San Filipo
syndrome live only into their teenage years. But with research
and medication, we are seeing great progress. Today we're unpacking

(05:20):
the devastating realities of San Filipo syndrome, and this conversation
is going to highlight the urgent need for research, funding,
demystifying stigmas, and celebrating the strength of caregivers who just
refuse to give up hope but amids the heartbreak. There
are warriors parents who refuse to be silent. Joining us
right now is one of them. Noel Potsel. She's a mother,
a Navy spouse, a relentless advocate. Through her social media

(05:43):
and nonprofit work, she uplifts caregivers, supports disabled individuals, and
champions military families. Above all, she is the proud mama
of Logan, her San Filipo Warrior. Welcome to the show, Superstar. Hi,
thanks for having me. I'm so excited to have you back. Welcome.
So I'm going to start from the beginning. Let's cover
the diagnosis journey. So when did you first realize something

(06:08):
was off with Logan and how long did it take
to arrive at a formal diagnosis. What was your emotional
journey during that time with Logan.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
The first thing we noticed was he was having some
gut issues. He was around one and a half when
this was happening, and he just had this big, bloated belly,
so bloated that it was hard putting pants on him.
And we were seeing specialists for that, they couldn't figure
it out. And then when all that was going on,

(06:38):
he started having chronic respiratory issues and we couldn't figure
that out either. And then after that he started having
speech delay, balance issues, and we were able to compare
him to his twin brother and we could see that
he was falling behind in milestones that he should have
been raging. So after all of that, his pediatrician she

(07:03):
was like, you know what, this is a full body thing,
and I think it's time to visit a geneticis. And
then we went and visited a geneticis, we got genetic
testing done, and that's when we ended up getting Logan's
diagnosis at around two years old. The whole process really
took about six to nine months, which is actually really

(07:25):
fast for a San Felipo child to get a diagnosis,
and he also got it at two years old, which
it's very young to get a diagnosis at that age.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, because many families faced that long road to answers,
like you said, because San Filipo is just so rare,
those early symptoms are just so often misdiagnosed as autism
or developmental delay. So you're right, I mean Logan's diagnosis
at two years old was extremely beneficial in your situation.
So let's talk about subtype and symptoms. So San Filipo,

(07:55):
to my understanding, has four subtypes AB, C, and D,
with type A being the most aggressive. Which subtype does
Logan have and what were his first symptoms after diagnosis
that really started to pave the way of this disease.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
He has type A, which, like you said, is considered
most severe because it progresses pretty quickly compared to the
other types. After diagnosis, we started seeing the speech delay
was real.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
It was real bad.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Loge never spoke in full sentences. He was very good
at getting He was very expressing himself and letting us
know what he needed. He had a few words, but
that was one of the things that really went quickly,
was the speech that he did have.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Looking back, do you think that there are any subtle
signs you wish you had understood earlier? I mean, he
got it pretty early on, But this is the kind
of detail that could help another parent listening right now.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
I would say it's really difficult because the issues that
a lot these kids have early on are actually pretty
common with young children. Right The respiratory issues the GI issues,
But I think what makes it different is the fact
that it's chronic. And I would say that if you
are trying to figure out what's going on and you're
not getting answers and things aren't getting better, then that's

(09:19):
when you need to start thinking that, Okay, maybe it's
something more.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, let's talk about the daily challenges. So what are
the biggest medical and daily care challenges that you've faced,
from neurological symptoms to mobility and GI issues or even sleep.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
So, because Logan is eighteen years old, we have gone
through like phases. So in the beginning, the struggles that
we had were with sleep and behavioral issues. You know
what people would call aggressive behavior. I don't consider aggressive.
It was just he was frustrated because he was losing
the ability to express himself, he was losing skills, and

(09:56):
he didn't understand why. So those were the biggest challenges
when he was younger extreme hyperactivity, it was rough, and
then we moved into more of Now it's more we're
seeing some mobility issues because of some bone deteriation in
his hips, which is really calming with Santelepo kids. But

(10:16):
the biggest struggle we're seeing now are is seizures. We're
trying to get these seizures under control. So right now
it's just kind of figuring out what medication works, and
it's all trial and error and it is a process.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
So walk me through a day in your life, the highs,
the lows, and the moments of joy you still hold
on to. Well.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
I mean, right now we are at a really besides
dealing with the seizures, we're at a pretty good point.
I mean, Logan is.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Active, he is very happy.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
Our life is just living in the moment.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Right We have.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
Therapies for Logan that he has to go to, and
really we like to go hiking, we go to different parks,
We are outside as much as we can be. Our
days just consist of living in the moment and soaking
up just every minute that we can. And something that

(11:14):
makes Logan unique is the fact that because he had
an early diagnosis, he was able to get an experimental
stem cell transplant. He was three years old when he
got it. This is an option for families, but it's
not a popular option because it is extremely risky, dangerous,
and the cutoff age is.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Three years old.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
And there's no guarantee that's even going to help, even
though it was so scary and it was really stressful
and hard on Logan. I think we made the right
decision because I think that that is why he's doing
so well now.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Absolutely. Now I want to touch on research and advocacy.
Right so, as of twenty twenty five, gene therapy try
are underway and organizations like NIH's Urgent Network are funding
ultra rare treatments. What advocacy or research efforts are you
and your network leading? How can people listening support right now?

Speaker 5 (12:14):
Currently, what I'm doing is just what I've been doing,
is just posting on social media trying to educate people.
But I think a way that people can help out
is by going to like the Care Sam Felipo Foundation,
and if they can, they can donate towards research, because

(12:37):
because these are ultra rare diseases, there isn't a ton
of funding put into the research, so every penny helps
with this.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Wow, what an incredible conversation. I thank you so much,
Noel for coming here, for your vulnerability, for your advocacy,
and for reminding us that even in the face of
devastating diagnoses, love and resilience they the way. Thank you.
Thank you. That was the We Plate Forward segment, Childhood
Alzheimer's from rare diagnosis to relentless Advocacy. To learn more

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or support, you can visit the Cure San Filipo Foundation
directly at Curesanfilipofoundation dot org. And you can follow the
We Plate Forward Foundation on the Gram at we plate
Forward Foundation. And to connect with our guests, Noel, you
can check her out directly on the Gram at Noel. Okay,
I'm going to spell out her name, Noel pacl. It's
pronounced potsol. Together, let's raise awareness, fund research, and keep

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playing it forward. We'll be right back after this.

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Welcome back, beautiful Tri State Area. You're listening to a
moment of Zen right here on seven to ten WR,
the voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zen
Sam's Welcome back to the Hydration with Heart segment brought
to you by Once upawn a Coconut. Today we're talking
about something interstellar and perhaps extraterrestrial. Is it visitors or Vision?

(14:27):
Three I ATLAS has everyone talking today. We're chatting alien
intelligence and the math behind the mystery. Now, the three
I stands for third interstellar object ever confirmed by astronomers,
and that's following one I a Mua Mua discovered in
twenty seventeen. ATLAS is the name of the survey that

(14:49):
discovered it. The Asteroid Terrestrial Impact Last Alert System, based
in Hawaii and Chili, has been tracking this object. It's
traveling at over a one hundred and thirty thousand miles
per hour, making it the third known interstellar visitor in
human history. Telescopes from NASA, Hubble and the James Web

(15:11):
Space Telescope have all locked in on it, revealing water,
ice CO two and even carbon rich dust. But here's
where things get really interesting. Three I Atlas is venting
water too early, far beyond the distance where ice should melt.
Some astrophysicists call it a cosmic fire hydrant, and of

(15:32):
course social media is ablaze with speculation. Is this a
comet or could it be an engineered craft? Some fringe
reports even claim holographic imagery has been detected aboard. While
to decode the numbers, the mystery, and the math behind
all of this, I'm joined by returning guest Robert Edward Grant,
a true polymath and best selling author of Philomath. Robert

(15:55):
is an innovator, an inventor, and an entrepreneur. He's the
founder of multiple companies banning medical technology, blockchain, and mathematical physics.
He's also a leading voice on how geometry, consciousness, and
frequency connect the physical and metaphysical. So let's find out
is three iye at lists just passing through or are
we witnessing the most mathematically elegant Hello in history, Welcome

(16:19):
to the show, superstar.

Speaker 8 (16:21):
Hi, great to be here again.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Oh my goodness, there's a lot to unpack, So I'm
gonna I'm gonna go start from the beginning. Everyone is buzzing.
Is this alien aircraft or ancient commet. So let's start
with the science. NASA officially classifies three IYE Atlas as
a natural interstellar commet, but it's displaying non typical behavior
excess outgassing, unexplained water release, and an oddly stable rotation

(16:45):
at incredible velocity about two hundred and twenty thousand kilometers
per hour. So, from your vantage point at that intersection
of math and mystery, what could qualify as evidence that
Atlas might be engineered or guided rather than random, an
intelligent signal hidden in motion or symmetry? What do you think?

Speaker 8 (17:03):
Well, first of all, its sheer size makes it very
very bizarre. It's thirty three billion tons. Now that to
put that into perspectives, literally, this is the size of Manhattan.
It's an object the size of Manhattan that also has
thousands of smaller objects around it traveling at the same speed.
And the speed is a very important thing on going

(17:24):
to come back to in a moment, right, But we've
never seen anything of this scale before. This is dwarfing
and Muhamua. This is dwarfing pretty much anything we've ever seen,
and then to be traveling at this velocity is just
mind boggling. And then also you mentioned the water vapor
as well as the CO two emissions coming off of it.

(17:44):
And it also seems like the plume is headed in
the wrong direction. Normally you have a comet that has
a tail. In this case, there's a plume in front
of it and it's basically towards the Sun. That's something
we've not ever seen before either. So there are so
many anomalies associated with this. And then also it's truejectory.
The trajectory is exactly three degrees above the plane of
the ecliptic of the Solar System. For an object to

(18:06):
come in at that trajectory exactly lateral to all of
the planets in the Solar System is mind boggling. And
the chances of it mathematically are only one in twenty thousand.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Oh my gosh. That's fascinating. So we're not just looking
for movement when we're looking at this stuff. I mean
you're looking for intention in the movement. It's kind of
a cosmic punctuation mark in the language of physics what
you're describing.

Speaker 8 (18:29):
Well, and not only that, the most important number in
all the physics. I think you and I have talked
about this before is something called the fine structure constant.
It is a separation between light and dark. This number
is so important. It is the foundational basis of the
Higgs boson or what we call the God particle. It's
the separation point between lights emission and its absorption. Now

(18:51):
this becomes really important to this because this is the
one number that Carl Sagan had placed also on the
Voyager spacecraft, so that if anyone in outer space ever
saw us right, ever found the Voyager spacecraft, they would
know that we had a complex understanding of mathematics and
physics because this is the foundational number that allows hydrogen

(19:12):
to even exist. And it's one over one hundred thirty seven,
so one hundred thirty seven to the power of negative one,
and this is called the fine structure constant. In fact,
the physicist by the name of Richard Feynman, who was
on the Manhattan Project, said that it says if God
wrote this number, but we don't know how he pushed
his pencil. It's literally the most enigmatic number in all

(19:34):
of physics. And if you look at the speed of
the trajectory of three I at lists, it's traveling at
exactly one hundred and thirty seven thousand miles per hour.
To me, that is a message. This whole thing is
telling us that it's on the way.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
It brings me to my next question. If they're here,
how would we know? So if a more advanced civilization
were behind this, the first evidence would probably be mathematical.
And you've long theorized that prime number sequences, geometric pulses,
and harmonic ratios could be the universal signature of intelligent
like cosmic Morse code. Right, So what kind of measurable

(20:11):
patterns would convince you that we're observing intention rather than accident?
And now please go into what you were just going
to say.

Speaker 8 (20:19):
Well, literally, I mean, if I was going to choose
one number to pick my velocity coming to Earth at
it would be one hundred and thirty seven thousand miles
per hour. Now they could very well be Maybe that's
only one in one hundred and thirty seven thousand chances
that they would basically choose exactly that speed. It just
seems awfully in combination with the other things you know.

(20:40):
To me, discernment is the ability to see the patterns
that are repeating what this is. I believe we've been
given a lot of different clues, whether it's the plume direction,
whether it's the speed, whether it's even the reports that
the speed has also been slightly adjusted. So that would
also show another degree of a intentionality that came back

(21:00):
and resolved back to one hundred and thirty seven thousand
miles per hour. You know, to me, all of these
things are pointing to intelligent design.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Now, geometry is a calling card. Okay, so you've said
geometry is the handwriting of God. Three eye atlases, dust tail,
and comma show symmetrical outflows. You just described that that
some analysts say resemble the ratio that we just talked about, right,
a proportion found in galaxies and DNA and architecture alike.

(21:29):
You've you've eloquently put this. I've learned this from you.
So could geometry itself be a form of interstellar communication,
a deliberate esthetic code written across space.

Speaker 8 (21:40):
I can tell you what I believe it is, what
I believe it is. I believe the payload of this
is actually geometry, and I believe that the geometry is
intended for an up level of consciousness. Remember, geometry is
like a QR code for the subconscious mind. Whenever you
look and gaze it a geometric form. It basically downloads
codes for you. It's like it's like you've basically got

(22:01):
a browser that's now gone in your subconscious mind to
find a website that's associated with that QR code. The
QR code is the geometric form itself, and just by
studying the geometry up levels your consciousness. So if you
wanted to leave something to subtenly wake up a population,
to subtenly change the Earth, I would do it through geometry.

(22:21):
And I believe fundamentally that that's very likely what we're
dealing with here. I don't believe that we have anything
to be concerned about at all.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
So what kind of actual data should the public be
watching for, I mean, from NASA, ESA or the JWST.
What would genuinely shift the consensus from natural comment to
engineered aircraft.

Speaker 8 (22:40):
I think that people are going to have to see
them literally, like have have a shit right on top
of earth stopped suspended, And even then some people might
not even be able to perceive it as a ship.
Why so, for example, we might look at a raven
or a crow, and you think that a crow? What
color is a crow? A bird?

Speaker 2 (22:59):
A blackbird?

Speaker 3 (23:00):
It's a blackbird.

Speaker 8 (23:01):
But do other birds see the crow as black? And
the answer is no, and neither do you if you
see it really close up, because you'll start noticing that
it's rainbow colored. It's iridescent rainbow colored. And that is
only something some people can see, not everyone can actually
see the aridescent rainbow colors. Your eyes have to be

(23:22):
resonating at the frequency of the aridescent rainbow colors in
order for you to perceive it. So for people to
be able to perceive through I Atlas, even if it
stopped right on top of Earth, only the people that
are resonating at the frequency of it will be able
to perceive it.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Undeniably true and a big heartfelt thank you to you
for bridging the words of science, spirit and symphony today.
I mean, you really did a great job. Thank you.
Thank you for all those listening. You can check out
Robert's groundbreaking work directly on the ground at Robert Edward Grant.
You can also go directly to his website at Robert
Edward Grant dot com. You're listening to a moment of

(23:59):
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Welcome back, beautiful Tri State area. You're listening to a
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Welcome back to the Going Deep segment brought to you
by Co two Lift. Today we're joined by a powerhouse
couple in plastic surgery, Doctor Rumpton Casir and doctor Sheila Casiir.

(25:00):
Doctor Rompton is a triple Board certified plastic surgeon and
reconstructive surgeon, internationally recognized as one of the foremost experts
in facial rejuvenation and rhinoplasty. He's been featured across major
media outlets including The New York Times, Fox News, and CNN,
and his expertise has been trusted by countless public figures.

(25:20):
Alongside him is his equally dynamic partner, doctor Sheila Casiir.
She's a Board certified plastic surgeon, international beauty expert and
founder of Inside Beauty Spop and her own beauty brand,
Inside Beauty by Casir MDS. Together, they're breaking down the
new era of recovery where science meets self care, exploring

(25:40):
how innovations like hyperbaric oxygen therapy and CO two lift
pro are helping patients heal faster, improve outcomes, and redefine
post procedure wellness. Here's a fun fact. The global aesthetic
medicine market is expected to surpass one hundred and eighty
billion dollars by the year twenty thirty. That's just a
few years away, and recovery innovation is a major driver

(26:03):
of that growth. Here to break it all down are
the amazing casirs. Welcome to the show, Superstars.

Speaker 9 (26:08):
Thank you for having us in.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Hi. All right, let's dive right in. So excited to
chat with both of you. Doctor Rampton, you have over
two decades in private practice, and it's safe to say
the field has definitely evolved tremendously, specifically when it comes
to pre and post procedure care. What have you seen
change over the years and would you say it's now
considered just as important as the procedure itself.

Speaker 9 (26:31):
The recovery now is actually part of the surgery. In
twenty twenty five, recovery is the procedure twenty years ago. Actually,
I've been in practice twenty nine years. So when I
first started, you would put the last stitch in and
that was it. Now that's when the procedure really begins.
So we have we designed the recovery the same way
we designed the operation, meaning like from preconditioning the skin,

(26:55):
optimizing nutrition, led photobiomodulation, hyperberic oxygen there therapy, IV infusions
and we're personalizing what we're doing with the patients in
terms of their blood work. So AI is actually helping
us do that. So you know, lymphatic drainage. These things
accelerate healing, they reduce your swelling and make you look

(27:16):
better faster.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Now, doctor Sheila, I'm going to refer to you as
doctor Sheila because you're both casiers, so we're gonna regulate
like that. So, Doctor Sheila, let's talk about one specific
form of post procedure care. Hyperbaric oxygen therapy, an advanced
recovery treatment trusted by elite athletes, Hollywood stars, and experts
like yourself. It's also something offered right at your Inside

(27:39):
Beauty location in New York City, which is pretty proprietary
because it's not like you bump into an oxygen chamber
every now and then right so easily. So for those unfamiliar,
can you break down the science behind the HBOT chamber,
how it accelerates healing and recovery, and who benefits most.

Speaker 10 (27:57):
It's basically a chamber where you like in but our
wellness center and our Inside Beauty mets, but actually has
one where you can sick comfortably. It floods the body
with oxygen under pressure. That means, instead of breathing in
what you're usually breathe in about twenty one percent of
oxygen you get one hundred percent of oxygen and that

(28:19):
leads to just better healing, faster healing, It reduces inflammation,
and it helps with the overall job. Like when you
have patients who go to our wellness center after surgery
and you look at their sutures after let's say a week,
you can really say, this patient went into the hyperbaric

(28:39):
oxygen chamber and this patient didn't you see the acceleration
of the healing.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
That's incredible. Congratulations to have that in your office now,
doctor Ramptin. So this segues perfectly into my next question
because CO two lift pro, which is a topical carboxy gel,
is often compared to hyperberic oxygen chambers and how it
supports recovery. So can you explain how both treatments utilize

(29:06):
oxygen differently and how you incorporate CO two lift into
your own practice before or after surgery.

Speaker 9 (29:13):
I mean, and that's great, and thank you for asking that.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Zen.

Speaker 9 (29:16):
So, both hyperbaric oxygen therapy and this CO two lift
revolve around oxygen, but from opposite directions. So the CO
two lift gel uses carbon dioxide to actually trick the
skin into absorbing more oxygen naturally, hyperbaric therapy what doctor
Shila just talked about pushes oxygen more oxygen into the

(29:40):
bloodstream under pressure. So in our practice we combine then
CO two lift pre surgery to prep the skin, get
it ready, and post surgery to minimize bruising and speed recovery.
It's really oxygen biohacking aesthetic style.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
That's such a great explanation. You're right on, and the
fact that a topical treatment like COEO two lift can
mimic the effects of carboxy therapy without injections or downtime
is truly game changer, especially when we know that oxygen
flow to the skin declines about sixty percent between ages
twenty and sixty. So it's empowering patients to heal smarter,

(30:18):
not harder. And that's what it's all about now, Doctor Sheila.
Your Inside Beauty medspat also focuses on non surgical aesthetic treatments.
We're all about that. Can COEO two lift play a
role here too, either as a prep step or recovery
EID after facials, peels, or laser treatments.

Speaker 10 (30:37):
Yes, it absolutely does. Like my husband just said, what
I wanted to add, Like many patients already know about
the hyperbaric oxygen and they don't always know about the
CO two lift. And then I'm like, you know what,
you can actually do the same with a topical in
atopical way and use a mess And then they're like
all about it because if you can go into the chamber,

(30:58):
you can even use this mess in the spa or
even when you go home after surgery. So this is
really something that patients value, and at the SPA we
use it a lot after laser like this is the
laser season. We have many like CO two lasers and
the redness you can really recover from that much quicker

(31:19):
when you use the CO twoft. We usually try to
advise us really on top of any laser because it's
it finishes any procedure in the best possible way exactly.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
And that's such an exciting bridge between beauty and medicine
when you when you look at you know, the neo
angiogenesis or adding oxygenating or CO two infuse treatments, those
without a doubt reduced that post treatment inflammation significantly up
to forty percent, and that and it visibly also improves
that skin hydration and texture and just under forty minutes, right.

(31:55):
So it's the kind of innovation that's redefining SPA recovery
and I love that you offer this in your netspop. Now,
doctor Rampton, let's shift gears to the emotional side of
the recovery process, because even with advanced treatments, recovery can
still feel daunting and emotionally draining for patients. So how
do you help patients manage that emotional roller coaster? And

(32:16):
what role does your Wellness and Recovery Center play in
helping them feel calm and cared for throughout?

Speaker 9 (32:22):
Recovery is as emotional as it is physical. So now
they come in and done all the surgery, But then
patients go through waves. You know, you have swelling, you
have bruising, and now the doubt comes in. What did
I do? So our Wellness center gives them a sanctuary
twenty four to seven nursing. You have these private suites
that I'll tell you are better than any hotel in

(32:44):
New York. If you don't believe me, just go to
them and see. And then we have IV therapy, led
photobiomodulation like real led photobiomodulation, hydroberic oxygen, the CO two lift.
We have IV infusions again tailored to your blood work.
Every he's designed to make them feel cared for and calm.
And then when patients feel When patients feel supported, they

(33:07):
heal faster and they look better. You know, it's medicine
meeting mindfulness. One hundred percent, not ninety nine of the
patients who sign up for the minimum three days at
the wellness center, that's the minimum requirement extend.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Wow, this feels like an experience. It's almost like every
mother's dream without a doubt. Now, one last question before
we wrap up here for you, doctor Sheila, you're known
for bridging science and self care and creating a truly
three hundred and sixty degree beauty experience. It's everything we've
been talking about up until now. As technology and wellness
continue to evolve, what do you see as the next

(33:44):
frontier in surgical and even non surgical aesthetics and more importantly,
the way patients experience beauty and healing.

Speaker 10 (33:51):
I think for patients it's really important not just to
look better. They want to feel better. If I just
if I just do plastics, I think some people it
doesn't automatically make someone look younger, It maybe makes them
look better or more attractive, but not always younger, like
I feel like you can see if someone is in

(34:11):
their fifties and has plastic surgery, that doesn't mean you
look like twenty the twenty year old always, but if
you feel better on top of that, you do look
younger if you really want to look younger like. The
holistic approach is what everybody's asking for, and it doesn't
matter if it's surgical or non surgical.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
This is our goal, that's the ethos, and we're entering
an era where science and self care truly coexist and
you guys are living proof of this with your incredible facility.
Thank you so much for coming on. I learned so much.
I'm excited to come check out your facility. You have
to come sign me up to learn more about their
amazing work. You could visit them directly on their website

(34:49):
at Doctorcasir dot com and www dot inside beautyspot dot
com and be sure to follow them on the ground
at doctor Casir and at doctor Sheila Thanks here, and
of course at Inside Beauty Spa. That was our Going
Deep segment brought to you by co two Lyft. I'm
your host, Zen SAMs. We'll be right back after this.

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Speaker 3 (37:34):
Welcome back, beautiful Tri State Area. You're listening to a
moment of Zen right here on seven ten WR, the
voice of New york iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zenzam's welcome
Back to the Clean Collective segment, brought to you by
Society Brands. Today's conversation is both heartbreaking and healing. It's
about fourteen year old Zuzup Bining, who's eleven year battle

(37:57):
with acute mildnoid leukemia defied every medical statistic and according
to the National Cancer Institute, AML accounts for about only
one in five childhood leukemia cases and carries a five
year survival rate of just twenty nine percent. Yet Zuza
survived over a decade three bone marrow transplants, later proving
that resilience isn't just the word, it's an energy. Through

(38:20):
social media, Zuza shared her journey with millions, turning hospital
rooms into windows of hope. Her passing in September of
twenty twenty five sparked a nationwide conversation about how we
care for children and families facing long term illness, and
at the center of that conversation is her mother, doctor
Dagmara Binni, a clinician and researcher in integrative and functional medicine,

(38:42):
and out of the loss, she created Zus's Way, integrative care,
bridging traditional oncology with nutritional science, psychneuroimmunology, and the spiritual
components of healing. Doctor Binney, welcome to the show, Superstar.
It's an honor to celebrate Zusa's light and the legacy
you built through her.

Speaker 6 (39:00):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
So I'm going to go to the beginning. For most parents,
milestones mean first steps or first words, not first rounds
of chemotherapy. And when you look at the research from
the American Psychological Association, it shows that parents of chronically
old children often experience PTSD level stress within the first
year of diagnoses. So can you take us back to

(39:24):
when you first heard Zeus's diagnoses and what those early
days taught you about strength, faith, and motherhood.

Speaker 12 (39:31):
Yes, I think that most families are individuals who hear
the word cancer. You know, the rug gets pulled out
from underneath your feet, and especially when it's your baby.
I think anybody would trade up disease for themselves instead
of your baby.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
We were in shock. We were both.

Speaker 12 (39:54):
In medicine, so my husband and I are both in medicine,
but that did not mean we understood cancer, leukemia, the
whole oncology world. And you know, your brain and your
heart automatically go to despair and am I going to
lose my baby? But very quickly, I think for most
families it turns into what can we do?

Speaker 6 (40:15):
How do we get through this?

Speaker 12 (40:16):
She's going to be a survivor, and are you know
what are all the tools that we're going to use
to allow her to have the best journey.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
That description is so visceral how you overcame it and
really kind of found a way to turn every moment
into something meaningful and really choose to transform it into
action rather than paralysis, because that's really what you've done
that's truly almost like a neurobiological miracle in itself. I mean,
you've done incredible things in just the last couple of years,

(40:48):
Which brings me to Zusa's eleven year of defiance. I mean,
clearly she had a very strong role model, and she
had a strong mama. But Zusa was never statistically supposed
to make it that far. But what science can always
quantify is the almost like the placebo effect of hope

(41:09):
now well documented right in psycho neeurimmunology. But positive expectation alone,
without a doubt, modulates you know, that cytocnnectivity and enhances
that immune function. And I think that had a lot
to do with the way you internalized all of it.
So what do you believe contributed most to Zusa's resilience?

(41:29):
I mean, was it mindset, was it medicine? Was it
something beyond what science can measure?

Speaker 12 (41:35):
One was Zusa never just did conventional medicine. So from
the beginning, and as I you know, changed my career
to learn and know integrative oncology, Zusa always was whatever
chemotherapy or immune therapy she did, it was always supported

(41:55):
and she always did a lot of integrative boncology treatments
and supports and got healing and nutrition. All that really
made a difference in her ability to stay here longer.
But her hope and her real belief always that she's
going to be okay was the biggest thing that contributed

(42:19):
to her being able to be here for eleven years
when most children who get diagnosed with AML rarely get
a cure and will die within two years, and she
was able to just continue on even though the last
five years. Most of those five years she lived with
a lot of leukemia in her body. I know it

(42:41):
was a big shock to the world that she died,
but people didn't realize how much leukemia she was actually
living with because she always came on with a smile
and positivity, and even when we would get distraught, her
dad and I like.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
Oh, like what's next.

Speaker 12 (43:02):
Towards her thirteen and fourteenth year of her life, She's
the one that would look at us and be like,
I'm going to be okay, Like what's the next thing?

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Yeah, she spoke to millions and what you said is
so enlightening. It really underscores how the mind body coherence,
that neural immune connection is often the missing link in
modern care, and she embodied that link. It brings tears
to my eyes because it's almost like this beautiful revelation
within her story. It's just it's beautiful. And I'm so

(43:33):
honored to talk about this with you. Now, let's talk
about from pain to purpose. So there's a clinical term
for what you've done. It's called post traumatic growth, right,
It's a documented phenomenon where grief becomes a catalyst for
helping others. So what inspired you to found Zus's Way
integrative care and how does your work there honor Zus's
life while supporting other families walking very similar paths.

Speaker 12 (43:57):
So very early on, when Zuza was diagnosed when she
was three and a half years old, I saw how
incomplete cancer care was, and it's not just for children,
just in the world, really, and so I looked at
the world to try to find a practitioner that could

(44:18):
help her with nutrition, with supplements, with other integrative therapies.
And I couldn't find a practitioner that would work with
kids and do those things. And since I was already
in medicine, I made it my mission in life to
become that practitioner. And so over the eleven years that
she walked this journey. I went back to school and

(44:40):
opened clinic that focused on integrative oncology, and during her
journey and during being able to help her and support her,
I also specialized and you know, wrote the first book
on integrative oncology for pediatrics and have helped hundreds of
FI families, adults, and kids through their own cancer journeys.

Speaker 6 (45:04):
Because I get it right.

Speaker 12 (45:06):
So I came from conventional medicine. I had that really
good background. I'm walking the journey, I'm able to help
my daughter, and it only made sense then to help
other families also walking this very hard journey. And it
helped me too, because there's so many beautiful kids and
adults who have been my patients, and all my patients

(45:26):
who are thriving and doing amazing. Yeah, it's just something
that I knew I had to do. It wasn't it
just sort of snowballed?

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Now let's chat about social media and legacy. So social
media is usually criticized for disconnection, yet for you and Zuza,
it became a lifeline. So how did share her journey
publicly shape both of your famili's healing and the way
you view community in the digital age?

Speaker 6 (45:52):
Yes.

Speaker 12 (45:52):
When she relapsed for the first time, she was nine
years old, so she did not have friends, school community.
This was also around COVID time, so we couldn't have
been more isolated. And so she asked if she could
have a phone and if she could start recording these
little videos in the hospital. You know, a lot of

(46:14):
people say like, oh, well, you were a big part
of it.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
No, we weren't.

Speaker 6 (46:16):
Like Zusa did all.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
That on her own.

Speaker 12 (46:20):
I mean, she put that camera and she was just
incredibly authentic and positive, and it was such a good
thing for her to be able to feel like a
normal teenage girl. It eventually brought her to be part
of the Glowhouse, which allowed her to feel like she
was also a normal teenage girl talking about makeup and

(46:43):
not just concentrating on the fact that before she did
that video and after she might be throwing up or
getting platelets at the hospital or finishing a treatment.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
She's definitely left a huge impact, not just on social media,
but on the community looked after her and cared for her.
So this is beautiful. Now we're going to talk about
the message to other parents. So parenting through illness rewires
the brain. Mama, you have got your hands full, because
we know those MRI studies they show changes in the

(47:16):
anterior singulate and insula. It's the regions that process empathy
and resilience. So if you could share one message with
parents navigating fear, hospitals and uncertainty right now, what would
it be.

Speaker 12 (47:29):
It's really you know, this sounds cliche, and I used
to hear it and I didn't practice it, And it
took me a while through this journey to be able
to practice truly staying in the moment with your child,
because the truth is, whether you're on a cancer journey
or any illness journey or not, you never know how
much time you have here with your loved ones. And

(47:50):
being able to stay present in the moment and not
worrying about is she going I mean, is she going
to die? Am I going to lose my daughter? If
I would I've stayed there in the last couple of years,
I would have missed out on the absolute most beautiful
and breathtaking memories that we had the last you know,
especially the last three years, especially the last couple months,

(48:14):
and we didn't know that Zuso was quote unquote dying.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Her death also came because she lived with.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
So much leukemia for so long. It happened quick.

Speaker 12 (48:23):
She was okay, okay, you know her okay on Friday,
she made a video on Friday, and she passed away
on Monday. It was quick and sudden, and so I
my best advice is just to stay in the moment, right,
Just stay in the moment with your loved ones and
make those memories because nobody could ever take those away

(48:46):
from you.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Well, thank you so much for sharing that. And her
work is her work is not done, you know, she's
she's working through you. The legacy is there. Through all
of this, there was an evolution that ultimately, without a doubt,
you know, is is paving the way for the next generation.

Speaker 12 (49:11):
She was a force and dearly missed. We're trying to
learn how to live without her physical presence.

Speaker 6 (49:21):
But yes, we will continue.

Speaker 12 (49:23):
Her legacy and her message in any way that we can.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Listeners, viewers, you can learn more at zussway dot com
and follow Doagmara directly directly on the gram at Doagmara
buining for Resources and Inspiration. That spelled Dagmara b E
I N E. That was the clean collective segment brought
to you by society brands. You're listening to a moment
of Zen where science meets soul and stories become medicine.

(49:50):
I'm your host, Zenzam's. We'll be right back after this.

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Speaker 13 (50:22):
Hello everybody, my name is Nancy Jirasmo. I am currently
working alongside of doctor Malilla within the Malilo Centers and
we are doing something called RPM and RPM stands for
Rapid Prompting method.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
And what this is is the.

Speaker 13 (50:38):
Most amazing thing personally from my child who is twenty
five years old, who I had brought to a therapist
years ago, and he started doing this method.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Then I got trained and.

Speaker 13 (50:49):
Felt so compelled to bring this and pay it forward
once my son was able to spell on these boards
being minimally verible, it has been an absolute game changer
for our lives. The center here believes in these children
as we do as our pan therapists, really sees them
for the brilliance that they are, and then all of
a sudden, we are just so amazed at most of

(51:12):
them are so interested in letters that we noticed that
everyone that comes in here they know their letters, and
they could be as young as three. So we're excited
to bring this to the centers and we know that
it has been changing lives like every day. And for
me because I have my own child, it's my heart
and soul and I would love to share this with

(51:32):
anybody that's seeing this video right now. Come to the
Malilo Centers to see how we blend these two things together.

Speaker 12 (51:39):
It is.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
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I've done.

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