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Welcome to a Moment of Zen. Time to sit back
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SAMs takes you on a sexy and wild ride covering
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Zen SAMs.

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Welcome back, beautiful New York Tri State area and beyond.
You're listening to a Moment of Zen right here on
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I'm your host, Zen SAMs.

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Today We're taking you on a journey through four fascinating
conversations that explore the mind, the body, human performance, and
the experiences that shape how we live, work and connect.
First the Hydration with Heart series, brought to you by
When Swanna Coconut will meet Arisa Kelly. She's againness world
record holder, renowned foot archer whose extraordinary talent has captivated

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millions around the globe.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
We're going to.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Uncover her mindset, her discipline, her wellness habits, and relentless
dedication required to perform precision archery with your feet. Then
it's time for a thought provoking discussion with Sean Clayton,
founder of Miracle Academy and creator of what he calls
the Miracle Code. In our featured conversation The Matrix, the
Mind and the Miracle Code, Sean is going to share

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insights from his own journey through adversity, incarceration, entrepreneurship, and
personal transformation. As together we explore anxiety, burnout, those fear loops, consciousness,
media conditioning, and the question of whether we're living by
conscious choice or inherited programming. Then it's time for another

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skin health and what consumers should know about achieving healthier
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to the Fairways for another edition of Elevating Experiences with
emptyk Group New York. Joining us is Christian Harrigan, director
of the us AM Tour for Long Island and the
NYC Hudson Valley Region. We're gonna explore how recreational golf

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is in fact evolving into an actual lifestyle driven experience
that combines competition, travel, hospitality.

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Networking, and more importantly community.

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And I'm going to take a deep dive into why
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Welcome back, Beautiful New York Tri State area and beyond.
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I'm your host, Zen Sam's Welcome back to the Hydration
with Heart series, brought to you by One Spot a Coconut.
Today's conversation is one of those that makes you stop
and ask what is the human body truly capable of?

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Because let's be.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Honest, most of us are proud if we can survive
a yoga class without losing our balance. While today's guest
performs precision archery with her feet while upside down, No, seriously,
and while that sounds like something straight out of a movie,
the real story isn't the stunt, it's the discipline behind it.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
And what fascinates me about.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Today's guest is that she didn't just master a skill,
she mastered one that almost nobody else on the planet
can do. Joining us today is world renowned UK born
foot archer, aerial artist, performer and content creator Arissa Kelly.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Welcome to the show, Superstar. Oh that's an intro. Thank
you so much for having me.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
I am so excited to talk to you and to
interview you. I want to talk about the origin story.
How does someone even discover this kind of talent?

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Right?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
So, I think the first question everyone listening and watching
right now is wondering is the obvious one. I mean,
nobody grows up thinking I'm going to become a world
famous foot archer, right, So, Arissa, take us back to
the beginning. How did you first cover foot archery? What
inspired you to pursue this and when did you realize
this unusual skill had the potential to become something much

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bigger than just a harby.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
So I've been a gymnast since I was three years old.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
I actually don't remember ever not being able to do
a handstand in my life. So I've been doing gymnastics,
and when I was about seventeen, I you know, I
competed for Great Britain and I decided, you know what,
I'm going to slow down on the actual competing gymnastics,
but I want to stay fit. So I got into
doing aerial silks, you know, the silks that hang from

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the ceiling and people spin down, and that I fell
in love. It became the love of my life, and
I said, I want to perform this. So I was
actually going to university and I decided, no, you know what,
I want to be a circus performer. So I canceled
my university application, and so I started performing aerial silks
about seventeen years old, and I started traveling the world

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doing that, and then I decided, well, why be the
best if you could be the only one, be so
different that no one else even compared to you. So
I decided, I want to come up with an act
that nobody else does that people haven't really seen. And
instead of one that was aeriel hanging from the ceilings,
I wanted it to be a ground act because that

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way I didn't have to worry about.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Ceiling high or rigging.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
So I just came up with different ideas, and then
I stumbled upon.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
A bone arrow.

Speaker 6 (06:27):
Let me try some cool tricks with a bone arrow.
I did one, standing up, bending over backwards.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
I did that. She got an I thought, you know what,
let me just put it in my feet and see
if I can shoot with my feet.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
So I got this bone arrow. I was probably what
nineteen years old. I went to a cricket field in
the UK, which is like a baseball field, and I
started training six hours a day, every single day for
six months until I hit that target. I had no
idea it was possible. I didn't have anything to work from.
I couldn't watch a YouTube video to see how this

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is done.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
I was just going on what felt right.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
And then when I hit my target for the first time,
I realized, like, there's no such thing as a fluke.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
This is possible.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
I did this because it's possible, and that was my realization,
like this could actually be something.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
So I said, wow, training it Yeah, okay, so it's incredible.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Right, how often the most successful people don't follow a roadmap?

Speaker 4 (07:25):
They create one.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Now, I want to talk about the training, the risk,
and the precision nobody sees. So the average viewer sees
a polished performance online and thinks, wow, that's amazing.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
What they don't see are.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
The thousands of repetitions behind the scenes. Right, So, research
in elite sports consistently shows that mastery isn't mastery isn't
talent alone. It's repetition, it's refinement and resilience, and in
your case, there's an added element of risk because a
minor mistake can have serious consequences. So walk us through

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what it actually took to developed the skill. What does
the training look like now, how many years did it
take to reach this level? And has there ever been
a moment where something went wrong where you genuinely question
whether the risks were worth it.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
That's a great question, and you made a really good point.
Repetition is so much of what I do.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
And even though now I've been doing for archery for
eleven years, which is just crazy, I found ways to
keep it fresh. I really believe you have to fall
in love with the journey. You cannot be fixated on
the end goal. If I wanted to end up on
TV or make a certain amount of money, I think
I would have given up a long time ago. I

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just really fell in love with the art of archery,
and I still even now. I train up to four
hours a day. When I'm not performing and traveling, I
have to constantly perform the same tricks over and over again.
I think a huge part of it is keeping it fresh,
keeping it fun. Sometimes I'll shoot at apples. Sometimes I

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actually have a beam in my house where I hang
things from and try and shoot at something that's moving,
and I think, yes, there are risks. I mean, look,
I'm using my body every day. I'm bending my spine
completely contorting it in half, and that comes with the
risk of a spinal injury. But I make such a
good point to look after my body. I treat my

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body like a temple. I eat right, I recover.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
I think, you know.

Speaker 6 (09:31):
Later in my twenties, I finally learned that like rest
is actually as important as training. So as much as
I love to train these long hours and train every day,
I know when to take rest and that has been
huge in my career. And one thing I think I've
noticed over the last ten years of this. I thought

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that training and my career would just be, you know,
in this trajectory that would always be going up. Sometimes
it goes backwards. Even though I've been doing this for
years and years. Sometimes I'll be like, why, why am
I suddenly bad? For like three months, I'm not perfectly
accurate on my target, and I have no idea why,
And I have to push.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Through those moments.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
And it could be so frustrating even all these years on,
but that's the beauty of it.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
It's unexpected.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
That's such an important reminder Rissa, that confidence isn't the
absence of fear. It's trust in the preparation you've put
in before the moment arrives. Now, let's talk about the
mindset behind performing under pressure. So, whether it's professional athletes
or surgeons, or pilots or performers, experts often talk about
entering a state of complete focus where distractions disappear and

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execution takes over. So for you, precision isn't optional, it's essential.
What happens mentally before a performance? How do you manage
the nerves and the fear and the pressure and the
expectations that come with performing a skill that very few
people on the planet can do.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah, the pressure is real.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
If I miss my target, it's very obvious.

Speaker 7 (11:07):
You know.

Speaker 6 (11:08):
If someone, say a singer forgets their words, they can
cover up, you know. But when I do a bad show,
everybody in that audience, sometimes in that arena, can see that.
So I don't really have an option to fail during
my show. And the way I've worked through that is
through my training.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
I train so hard that.

Speaker 6 (11:31):
My body knows before even my mind can catch up
what to do. So if my mind is panicking, I
just tell myself listen to my body. Your body knows
ten years of training, like that's what I rely on.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Of course, I get nervous.

Speaker 6 (11:46):
I get very nervous before shows, but that's just because
I care so much about what I do.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
And actually the nerves are great.

Speaker 6 (11:52):
They make me more flexible, so I'm not mad about it.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
And the adrenalines really great on my body.

Speaker 7 (11:58):
But I just push through it and remind myself I
know what I do and I kind of learned to
enjoy the pressure at this point, like it's what makes
me feel alive.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Now, I want to talk about fueling the body that
makes it all possible. So as a mom, this question
fascinates me because your body isn't just part of your career,
it's your entire instrument. And according to sports performance experts,
even mild dehydration can negatively affect coordination and reaction time balance,
and more importantly, the cognitive performance, which for you is

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so important. So for someone whose career depends on precision
and control, recovery and hydration aren't luxuries, their actual necessities.
What does your approach to wellness look like today, how
do hydration and nutrition and recovery and overall body maintenance
help support the level of performance your career demand.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
At the end of the day, I'm doing my dream job.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
I'm doing what I love, and the most important thing
to be able to do that is my health. The
moment I start neglecting my body is the moment this
will falls apart. So I am very careful what I
put into my body. I actually have electrolytes and coconut
water every day. I do not go a day without
it because hydration, as I've learned, is huge.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
And interestingly, I fly so much.

Speaker 6 (13:18):
I do, like over one hundred flights a year, and
I didn't realize how dehydrated you get on aeroplanes.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
So I swear by my hydration.

Speaker 6 (13:27):
I have seen a huge difference in like I don't
get the flu as much anymore. I don't get sick
as much because I stay hydrated, so that really helps.
And I don't mess around, you know, Like, look, I
can have a good time. I might have a glass
of wine here and there, but I don't put anything
into my body that wouldn't agree with me. I just don't.

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Even when it comes down to food, if I eat
something and I feel heavy after, in my mind, I
make a mental note I'm not having that again. The
reward I get from doing my job is so much
more than having food or drinks that just might not
make me feel good.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, it's always interesting to hear elite performers like yourself
talk about the fundamentals, because so often the secret isn't
some magical shortcut. It's consistently doing the basics exceptionally.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Well, yeah, it really is.

Speaker 6 (14:17):
And just like I have so much respect for my body,
I think of what it's given me.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
I've traveled the world.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
I've traveled to I don't know how many countries, like
seventy plus countries doing what I love, and I just
would never risk, you know, putting something in me that's
not going to agree and make me have a bad
show or potentially make me feel worse to do what
I love.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yeah, for sure. I mean, you are amazing.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
You are amazing, And I think that's the perfect place
to end, because your story really isn't about archery at all.
It's about possibility. It's about discipline. It's about taking something
unconventional and turning it into something extraordinary, which you did.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Thank you, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
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Welcome back, beautiful New York Tri State area and beyond.
You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
seven to ten WR the voice of New York iHeartRadio.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
I'm your host.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Zenzam's tonight's feature is titled the Matrix, the Mind, and
the Miracle Code. Now before anyone hears that title and
assumes this is a conversation about conspiracy theories, it really isn't.
It's a conversation about something much bigger. We're living in
a time when Americans are more connected than ever before,
yet loneliness and anxiety and stress continue to climb. We

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consume more information in a single day than previous generations
consumed in weeks, yet many people feel more uncertain, overwhelmed,
and disconnected than ever before. My guest tonight is Sean Clayton.
He's the founder of Miracle Academy and creator of what
he calls the Miracle Code. His own story includes adversity
and conceration, entrepreneurship, personal transformation, and a deep exploration into

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consciousness and spirituality and human behavior and what drives lasting change.
What caught my attention wasn't simply his message about abundance.
It was several viral posts where he challenged followers to
examine fear, question accepted narratives, explore concepts from the Book
of Enoch and Gospels of Times, and asked a deceptively

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simple question, what if the opposite were true? Well, tonight,
we're unpacking those ideas directly. Sean Clayton, Welcome to the show, Superstar.

Speaker 9 (17:11):
Well, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
So before we talk about fear and fear loops and
consciousness and abundance or any of the concepts that have
built your following, I want listeners to understand who you
are now. You've been very open about the fact that
your life wasn't built from comfort. You've spoken about incarceration
and about personal adversity and rebuilding yourself and ultimately creating

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the work you're doing.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Right now and today.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
So Sean, what experience has shaped your path from survival
mode to studying consciousness and transformation and what you now
call the miracle Code.

Speaker 9 (17:44):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
So it's an interesting journey. The things that shape my
past were a lot of trauma. Candidly, I mean it
started when I was nine years old, walked into a
world of sexual abuse, and it happened because the person
that was using me their father, took their own life.
So you kind of like, look at there's all of
these patterns that happened that are all out of trauma,

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that keep extending themselves into worse and worse things. And
because that happened. I was always looking for affirmation because
that moment in time took me to a place of
darkness that I didn't know who I was anymore. In
my twenties, you know, I went through this whole thing
of getting a fifteen ninety on I sat, was an
All American track athlete, got a full ride track scholarship.

Speaker 9 (18:29):
All this cool stuff that ended up happening for me.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
But then when the cards came tumbling down and something
didn't work well in a relationship or at work or
whatever it might be, I literally tried to take my
life four times in my twenties, and I didn't want
to be on this earth anymore. The thing that actually
saved my life was prison. It was it was one
of those things where I was really I was killing
it in the world. I was in medical staffing, and
then I went and started my own company and it

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looked like twenty million dollars.

Speaker 9 (18:53):
It was great, and.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
My godfather business partner ended up in building a bunch
of money disappeared. I got stuck with the tab and
ended up with a forty six month federal sentence, And
at the time it was soul crushing and wanted to
take my life again because I was like, I can't
do this anymore.

Speaker 9 (19:09):
I've got a little boy.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
I don't want him to see his dad like this.
I don't want to be disconnected from him, and so
I just you know, you're in the moment and you
think that it's the end, but you have to recognize
that time is infinite and so there's so many possibilities.

Speaker 9 (19:22):
I didn't realize it at the time, but ended up, you.

Speaker 5 (19:26):
Know, being incarcerated for that forty six month sentence, and
it forced me to sit with myself, and it forced
me to look at people that I would have always
judged and had friendships with them and recognize that, like,
all these people aren't bad, right, They've just been mis labeled,
and they've been mislabeled because of something that.

Speaker 9 (19:44):
Happened in their past.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
And so you start seeing those patterns when you're in
there around all of these like similar trauma things around
abs and fathers, around abuse issues.

Speaker 9 (19:53):
You know.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
I went and visited Angola Prison recently and sat with
some individuals on death row and saw that the majority
of them we went through sexual abuse and it's like
then they end up acting out because they have no
other place to take this. It doesn't make what they
did right, but you start to understand the patterns that
are there, and you start to understand why you were
put in those situations, so that at some point you
could walk into a place of somebody who was incarcerated

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that feels like their life is over and you could
show them a possibility. The whole concept of prison was
actually a rebirth process for me, and as I went
and as as I got out, it was like, Okay,
this is actually the best time of my life, and
this is the best.

Speaker 9 (20:30):
Thing that ever happened to me.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
And oftentimes people feel like you're gaslighting it, like you
have to sit and suffering. But we can always change
the vibrations and the energy of the past. If we
look back on it, we say, Okay, this is a
gift that I gave myself so that I could become
fully hold today. How can I take that and start
moving forward with a certainty in.

Speaker 9 (20:47):
A way that I've never seen before.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
And so that's when I started writing my own narrative.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Oof, that's a lot to unpack there.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
I mean, I'm pretty sure if prison also forced you
to read a lot and become self taught in many
respects because it gave you that time of, like you said, inflection,
and you're seeking answers and you're seeking.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Truth and you really have nothing to do but look within.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
And I think what you just said is very important
because so often we only meet people after the success.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
We don't see these chapters that created the message.

Speaker 9 (21:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, So.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
One of your most talked about posts starts with a
statement that immediately grab my attention.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Right, you cannot think your way out, You breathe your
way out.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
So now what's fascinating is that while your post uses
spiritual language, there's a growing research around breath work, stress regulation,
and the nervous system.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
And when you say people cannot think their way out.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
But can breathe their way out, what specifically do you mean.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yeah, so your brain is a beautiful tool, but a
horrible master. Okay, so when we try to go here
into I don't even call it the mind. I call
it the brain. It's a it's a it's a quantum
machine that is constantly processing all possibilities. So, if you
know anything about quantum physics, every possibility exists. Your brain

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is always going to process every possibility and until you
give it a center point, it's going to be all
over the place, right, And so that center point lies
in your somatic safety. How do you get to that
sematic safety is through your heart. And I know this
sounds like woo woo, right, but what they've studied is
that you have twelve cranial nerves that are constantly like
firing off, that are in like fight or flights, you know,

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freeze and looking for danger in.

Speaker 9 (22:34):
Order to protect yourself. Right.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
The more that we give it stimulus in our world
on a daily basis, we expand our thought infinitely because
we see more possibilities, which is beautiful for creativity, but
it's horrible for like stillness.

Speaker 9 (22:46):
Right.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
So then what happens is that you have this thing
called a bagel nerve, like your vegus nerve, and your
biggest nerve connects your penial bland which sits up here,
which is a radio receiver. That's uh as this pisioelectric
effect that like basely kicks off DMT in your brain.
And that DMT isn't like, let's go like on some
freaking journey, but it allows for the brain to still

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itself so that you can receive what I call divine
information or information that is very intended for your purpose.

Speaker 9 (23:13):
Okay, once that happens.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
If this isn't able to calm itself, which is like
your penial land in your brain doing its thing, which
is also like an eye of Horus and everything that
they talked about in Egypt.

Speaker 9 (23:24):
But we'll get there later, the.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
Vegas nerve, if it's not calm and still, the heart
can't expand, which is the largest you know, electromagnetic field
in your body. So when that expands, it then basically
gets the penal land to still itself, information starts coming
in and then therefore you can breathe.

Speaker 9 (23:40):
Your way out of it.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
So how do you calm the vegas nerve is through breathwork,
and so I have a breath work exercise that I
do with my team and the inside of my core
is called the heart opener meditation where it's like a
six count in.

Speaker 9 (23:52):
Hold two at the top and then a four count out.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
So you do that process, and so it allows you
to just kind of like still yourself and it's into
the nose, hold out through the mouth, or you can
just do a quick one where it's like basically breathing
like two inhales through the nose and then one through
the mouth. But it's like, whenever something crazy happens in
your life, you do that breath, Like that's a thing
to actually reset your biggus nerve so that your heart
can get still again and you can reconnect back with

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your divine purpose.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Wow, that's deep and so true, and I can attest
to all of that. So in that same post you
reference what you call Olympic.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Loop of fear.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Today, many people wake up and immediately consume news and
social media, email notifications, pinging and financial concerns for some,
and family stress and world events and before their feet
emen hit the floor. Right, So, what exactly is a
fear loop and how does someone recognize their living inside
of one?

Speaker 5 (24:45):
So I'll give you some examples of mine. When I
was five years old, I saw some really crazy stuff
happening between my mother and my father. When I saw
that happen, it then told me that this is how
a man treats a woman, and this is how I
need to create a connection with a woman so that
I can find the love of my mother. Right, that
was a fear loop that I created based on seeing

(25:06):
this situation happened between my mother and my father, that
I cascaded thirty to forty years later, that I was
showing up in my.

Speaker 9 (25:13):
Marriage, which is crazy, right, But I.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
Was looking for the love of my mother right through
my wife by treating her like my dad treated my mom.
And that was an entire process that I put together
that was subconsciously driven that I was not even aware of.

Speaker 7 (25:27):
All.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
Right, Now take that and move it forward, and let's
say nine years old. You know, I am all of
a sudden going through this sexual abuse stuff with a
larger male person who was a i'll caollies, a light
skinned African American. So every time I got around light
skinned African American men, I had this trigger and this
fear loop that was happening to where I would constantly
get defensive and think that they were trying to get

(25:48):
something from me. So now I had this opposition with
a light skinned African American man all the time, and
generally any man in my life that I felt was
getting too close, so I had no close friendships.

Speaker 9 (26:00):
Created a fear.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
Loop off of that moment in time that said, Okay,
this is how you need to be because you need
to protect yourself.

Speaker 9 (26:05):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
So those are examples of fear loops that you create,
and they're all from a very specific memory and how
you feel about those memories. And essentially there's a little
boy that was inside of me, a little girl inside
of you, and whoever the listeners are that is constantly
looking for protection, and so what they do is whatever
they need to do in order to basically just guard
themselves so that they don't become a victim again. And

(26:27):
then essentially they're looking for the villain in their lives
right and then basically creating heroes somewhere else. So it
ends up taking place, is that the little boy inside
of you is basically taking over the adult version of yourself.
So then what we do is we look for the
mirroring effect of that, whether it's in news, whether it's

(26:47):
in content, whether it's in friendships, whatever it might be.
So you get more gossip people, you look for more
stuff on your Instagram feed that validates all of the
trauma that you've been through, and then that creates more
of an expansion because you know, in order to be
you have to know. And so what do I end
up knowing is everything I consume, So therefore I become.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
That I mean, it really resonates because most people don't
think they're operating from fear.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
They think they're simply being realistic.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
But once you're in that fear loop and it's feeding itself,
it's like, you know, you got to keep feeding the giant,
and then the problem becomes bigger and bigger, and then
you're consumed by fear and like you said, you know,
it becomes a loop of you know, people are stuck
and they don't know why they feel stuck. Well, this
is exactly why they feel stuck exactly, which brings me

(27:33):
into the matrix metaphors. So many followers connect your teachings
to what they call the matrix right now, obviously you're
not talking about the movie.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Itself when you use the metaphor.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
What does the matrix represent in practical, everyday life?

Speaker 5 (27:47):
Yeah, so we live in a coded reality, okay. And
as you get deeper and you see it, it's nothing
but a set of patterns, right. They're patterns that are
baked into that nine dimensional or that nine portal construct
that we were talking about, yep. And as you start
moving through those different layers, you'll start seeing how clear

(28:07):
they are. So you know, like whenever I see Angel
numbers like one, one, one, right, it's basically the trinity
of initiation. Whenever I see two to two two, okay, Well,
it's the trinity of integration. And the trinity is the Father,
the Son, and the Holy Spirit. So all of these
things are are are tied to some version of a
coded reality. And the Father, the Son, and the Holy

(28:29):
Spirit means that there's an energy or a feminine energy
that's between me, right and this all source energy that
allows for me to connect, and when I get into
my feminine I.

Speaker 9 (28:38):
Receive it, okay.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
And so the coded reality that we live in is
all also based on this construct. The one that we're
in is based on the construct of seven all right,
because we are individuals that are all connected, that are
looking for the bridge to get to the all. That's
why literally our world it's like thrown in our face
all the time. Has we know we've got these seven chakras? Oh,
that's it's interesting. You know, if you look at the

(29:01):
Tibetan Book of the Dead, it's forty nine days of
a Bardo.

Speaker 9 (29:04):
What's theol? You know, if you take the square root
of that, it's seven. Right.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
If you go down the path of the locals inside
of Hinduism, there's fourteen of them. You cut that in half,
the mirroring effect, you get back to seven. So, for
any listener, when the reality that you live in, whether
it's the seven colors of the rainbow and you see those,
whether it's you know, the seven continents in which one
you're on al has a very specific purpose.

Speaker 9 (29:26):
Every day of the week has a very specific purpose.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
It ties to a very specific frequency, It ties to
a very specific angel, It ties to a very specific
you know, like like flow and frequency that you should
be in. And for any listeners that are like, hey,
this is way too much, is way too heady, just
recognize that you have seven parts of your body that
when you can feel those parts, that will give you

(29:50):
the answer.

Speaker 9 (29:51):
Okay, And the most.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
Important thing that any of us can do is truly
feel ourselves right, and not in some weird like weird
way right, but.

Speaker 9 (29:59):
Like really like feel every part of you.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
Feel what it feels like when I say, you know, Yeshuah,
yes is the son of God.

Speaker 9 (30:07):
But so are you right? Exactly feel that? Feel what
does that.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
Rush that came in my throat, that like oh that
hurt my neck, my head, that like, oh, I feel
I got to throw up when you say that, I
hate this guy for saying that.

Speaker 9 (30:18):
Feel that that's great.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
So when you go to that feeling, that gives you
an answer because then you're like, oh, well that ties
man that when I was seven, I actually got in
trouble for saying something similar to this. Or when I
was eight, you know, the pastor was just preaching and
I got so terrified of going to hell that I
have to give them all of my you know, my
uh my salvation away.

Speaker 9 (30:39):
To this this guy who's amazing.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
Right, I'm gonna give my salvation away to Jesus and
I'm gonna go follow this path. I'm gonna take no
responsibility for anything in my life.

Speaker 9 (30:48):
Right.

Speaker 5 (30:49):
So you feel that and there is some point that
something happened, and when you go back to that, you're like, oh,
now let me disconnect that. That's the proxy, and now
I can connect with God and I know what I
actually am, and now I can start creating miracles in
my life.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Well, I love ending here because regardless of where someone
stands philosophically, everyone can benefit from becoming a little more intentional.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
About how they think and what they consume.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
And how they show up in the world, and I
think it all begins well within us.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
So Sean, I learned so much. I'd love to have
you back. You're amazing. I love having you on.

Speaker 9 (31:20):
Good to be here.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Thank you and for our listeners and viewers. If you'd
like to learn more, you can visit Themiracle Academy dot
com and you can follow Sean directly on the ground
at Abundance ten thousand. You're listening to a Moment of
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Speaker 3 (32:09):
Welcome back, beautiful New York Tri State area and beyond.
You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
seven to ten wor the voice of New york iHeartRadio.
I'm your host, Zen Sam's and now it's time for
another edition of Better Brighter You brought to you by Cispera. Now,
if you've been following this series, you've heard us talk
about how skincare is evolving. Consumers today are more educated

(32:32):
than ever before. They're reading labels, researching ingredients, following dermatologists
on social media, and looking for products that do more
than simply cover up concerns. And while many listeners know
Siespera for its work in helping improve the appearance of
uneven skin tone and discoloration, the company has expanded its
portfolio to support overall.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Skinhealth in new and exciting ways.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
That's why today we're spotlighting one specific product within the
sisparaly Total Skin. And joining me right now is doctor
Ron Bosley. He's a double certified dermatologist and fellowship trained
dermatologic surgeon whose expertise spans cosmetic dermatology, skin cancer surgery,
facial aesthetics, and skin and hair conditions affecting people of color.

(33:17):
He's also an Associate Professor of Clinical Studies at Texas
Christian University College of Medicine and a nationally recognized voice
in inclusive dermatologic care.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Welcome to the show, Superstar. Thank you.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
I appreciate that, so excited to.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Have you on. So I want to talk about what
is total skin?

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Right, So, doctor Bose, I think many of our listeners
are familiar with sispare at this point because of its
legacy products and its reputation for addressing the visible discoloration
and that uneven skin tone that's so stubborn. But today
we're focusing on total skin specifically, So I want to
bring you in as the expert on the microphone for
someone listening and watching in the car or on social

(33:53):
media right now who may be hearing about it for
the first time.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Let's start with the basics.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
What exactly is total skin and what was it designed
to help consumers achieve?

Speaker 10 (34:03):
Total skin is Cispia's newest innovation. It's the first in
class oral solution for pigment correction. So, as you mentioned,
Sispair has been well respected for their topical preparations. Now
they have an oral preparation which I like to say
does three basic things. Of course, it helps address pigment directly. However,
the fascinating thing is that it also helps prevent the
triggers that cause excess pigment in the skin, while also

(34:27):
doing the third thing of repairing the skin, and the
thought that it may help repair and prevent future discolouration
from occurring from those triggers that I mentioned earlier. So
it's an exciting innovation and definitely welcomed in a space
of correcting pigment.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
I think that's why simpler routines are actually winning. One
of the biggest trends we're seeing right now is what
many experts are calling skincare fatigue.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
You know this better than anyone else. Consumers are just overwhelmed, doctor.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
I mean, social media tells us to buy one product,
influencers tell us to buy another, and before long, some
people are applying eight, ten, even twelve products a day
and still feeling frustrated by the results. So, as a
millennial mom, I hear this all the time from women
who simply don't have an hour to spend in front
of the bathroom mirror every morning. So why are dorms
seeing patients move away from complicated, multi step routines and

(35:17):
towards more streamlined solutions like Total Skin.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Why do you think that is?

Speaker 10 (35:20):
Because those multi step routines just don't work. And it's
not simply because the products are bad, But anytime you
deliver multiple active ingredients to the skin, you can damage
the skin barrier, disrupt the skin, get irritation, and now
you're not seeing the results that you're looking for. And
maybe you see results, but as much slower because you
can't use products at the rate that you need to
use them to see visible correction. And that is one

(35:41):
of the welcome additions to the Total Skin is that
we can deliver an oral option limit the topical preparations
give you targeted options that will work without irritation and
side effects that are seeing with those TikTok I like
to call them TikTok routines that are gotten popular over
the last couple of years.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yeah, And that's such an important point because sometimes more
products don't necessarily mean better outcomes, right. In many cases,
simplicity and consistency may be the real game changers. And now,
the skincare industry is enormous, I mean huge. Americans spend
billions of dollars annually on skincare products. Yet many consumers
still struggle to figure out what's actually with worth their investment,

(36:22):
and every brand claims to be the innovator, right, every product,
every product claims to be revolutionary. So from a dermatologist perspective,
what genuinely differentiates Cispera from many of the products consumers
are already purchasing.

Speaker 10 (36:40):
Yeah, the proof with suspare is in its efficacy. So
for years I've seen suspair were just amazing before and after.
I remember when I was in first introduced to sispea.
I was able to see just this beautiful before and
after and I was like, man, this patient has to
be on ten different things oral medication, and it was
just the innovations. Boss you bosses. So over the years

(37:01):
they continue to innovate with products that are helpful across
the diversity of skin types, of sensitive skin, deeper skin tones,
and now this oral solution, it is definitely going to
be they called game changer for patients who are looking
for a total body solution to improve their discolouration.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah, it's both for men and women and it works
wonders And you don't have to necessarily have hyperplegmentation or
malassma to benefit from this oral supplement. Right to my understanding,
you will be better and brighter. I've started using it,
and I don't know, maybe it's just psychosomatic, but I'm like,
I think I'm blowing.

Speaker 10 (37:39):
No, You've definitely hit with a lot of patients, understand.
So there have been many patients in my clinic in
which I've started to SPARE. There are different topicals, and
all of a sudden, their skin looks brighter, looks more illuminate,
looks less dull, and we neglect to think about the
effects the environment have on our skin. We may not
visibly see pigment, but from day to day sun expo

(38:00):
are that five minutes in the car, that ten minutes
to the grocery store, you start to notice some changes
in the skin that sspare corrects. As I mentioned, with
the oil supplement, we are able to prevent issues and
repair the skin. So all of a sudden, weeks later,
your skin is looking more illuminant, looking great, and given
the appearance that you're looking for.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yeah, I think listeners are craving that clarity right now
because there's so much noise in the marketplace, and understanding
what makes a product different is incredibly valuable. So let's
talk about results and expectations. You mentioned earlier on in
your career you saw some amazing before and afters, and
you're right. We live in an era of instant gratification.

(38:37):
People want results tomorrow, but skin health often doesn't work
that way, right, I mean, the reality is that consistency
tends to win over quick fixes every single time. So
when patients consistently incorporate saspara and specifically total skin into
their skincare routine, what improvements are they most commonly reporting

(39:00):
and what should realistic expectations look like?

Speaker 10 (39:03):
Another excellent question, And the Total Skin has actually changed
my conversations I have with patients historically when it comes
to pigment. I always ask for patients because it historically
takes eight, ten, twelve, fourteen weeks to see noticeable improvement,
and that's a long time for a lot of patients. However,
with total skin, especially in the studies, they've seen improvement

(39:23):
within as early as four weeks with this supplement, and
I think the twofold of course, I think it works.
But the other thing is we're keeping it really simple.
We're not doing damage, we're not delaying the improvement, trying
to increase your tolerability to a topical product. We're delivering
powerful antooxidants, powerful pigment controlling ingredients through oral supplement that

(39:46):
can then allow that improvement to show up much quicker,
and of course we get that positive feedback. Right if
you're four weeks in and you're already seeing that improvement,
you're more willing to do some of the other treatments
or options that we may have to correct pigment or
to improve the overall skin quality. And so it definitely
has changed my perspective on pigment correction when we've done
it with a comprehensive approach using total skin as well

(40:07):
as the other topical preparations that SISPA offers.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Well, Doctor Bosley, thank you so much for joining us
today and for helping us better understand not only the
future of skincare, but how consumers can take a more
thoughtful and effective approach to achieving healthier looking skin.

Speaker 10 (40:22):
Oh yes, thank you for having me. I really appreciate
your time.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
To learn more about doctor Bossie, you could visit him
and follow him directly on the gram very interactive at
doctor Ron Bosley.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
That's Dr r A. W.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
N Ron spelled in a very unique way for a
very unique doctor, doctor Ron Bosley, and you could directly
go to his website at ronboslemd dot com. And if
you'd like to learn more about today's featured product, Total Skin,
as well as the entire family of science backed skincare
solutions from Cispera, you could go ahead and directly visit
them on their website.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
At Cispera dot com.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
That's c Y s p E r A, and you
can also follow them on the gram at Cispera. You're
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Speaker 3 (41:44):
Welcome back, Beautiful New York Triestate Area and beyond. You're
listening to a Moment of Zen right here on seven
ten WR the Voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zenzams.
Welcome back to the Elevating Experiences series, brought to you
by EMPTK Group, New York. Our headliner is Beyond the Fairway,
how premium experiences are transforming amateur golf, and we're going

(42:07):
to be exploring how golf has evolved from a recreational
pastime into a lifestyle experience that lends competition and networking,
travel and wellness, hospitality and community altogether. Joining us right
now is Christian Harrigan. He's director of the US Amateur
for Long Island and the NYC Hudson Valley Region. Christian
has been a driving force in amateur golf since two

(42:29):
thousand and five, and he spent nearly two decades creating
memorable tournament experiences for golfers of.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
All skill levels.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Today, he oversees approximately twenty five competitive events annually while
helping grow one of the country's premier amateur golf organizations. Christian,
welcome to the show, Superstar.

Speaker 9 (42:46):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 11 (42:47):
Then, it's a pleasure to be here.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
So excited to chat with you.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
So what's fascinating, Christian is that golf is growing at
a time when consumers have more entertainment options than ever before. Right,
And if you look at the stats, they don't lie.
According to the National Golf Foundation, total golf participation reached
a record forty million Americans last year. That's up forty
one percent from the year twenty nineteen, and participation is

(43:13):
on pace to exceed fifty million.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
By the end of this year alone.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
So what's particularly interesting is that researchers are increasingly attributing
that growth to people seeking social connection and wellness, and
more importantly, outdoor activity and memorable experience is not simply competition.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
So, Christian, you've been.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Involved in amateur golf for over twenty years. What have
you seen change in terms of why people are showing up?
Are they coming for the golf or are they coming
for the experience?

Speaker 4 (43:42):
Surrounding it.

Speaker 11 (43:42):
What are your thoughts, Well, they're coming for the golf,
for sure, they're coming for the experience around it, and
if they do join something like the US Amator, they
are definitely looking for the competition. So I think that
the modern amateur golfer is looking for a complete experience.
The days of simply up to a course, grinding through

(44:03):
a full day of golf, and heading straight to the
parking lot are quickly fading. The desire to compete and
test one's skills remains a core driver for the people
that get into amateur golf competitions, but amateur golf players
their expectations have dramatically shifted towards a broader mix of
social connection, premium amenities, technology, and variety in their experience.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
And I think that's such an important distinction, what you
just said, because what you're describing isn't just a sporting
event anymore, right. It's a community, it's a lifestyle, and
it's an opportunity for people to disconnect from screens and
reconnect with people in a meaningful way. And I think
that's what most people are craving these days above all else. Now,
I want to talk about the competition without intimidation, because

(44:50):
the first thing people think about is, oh, I'm not
good enough to compete. And that's one of the biggest
misconceptions people have is that tournament golf is only for
e leap play. Yet the USM Tour was built around
flighted competition, allowing golfers of varying skills to my understanding,
various skill levels to compete really fairly, but still they

(45:11):
get to experience the excitement of tournament play. Right, So,
for someone listening who loves golf but has never entered
a tournament, how does the flighted format level the playing
field and make competition more approachable.

Speaker 11 (45:24):
Well, the USAM Tour is flight to format competitive tournament
golf accessible, makes golf accessible by eliminating all intimidation factor.
Obviously all golfers have experienced this. They kind of walk
up to the first tea. They may or may not
be with friends. They're nervous. They're nervous that you know,
are they good enough? But they are for sure because

(45:45):
in the flight of competition, you're playing with and you're
competing against people of the same skill level that you have.
At the USAM Tour actually has six flights so we
go from all the way from basically a scratch golfer,
which is a zero to three point nine index, and
our highest flight is twenty plus the way of form
between there. So regardless of your typical scoring range, your

(46:08):
handicap index, you're going to find the spot where you're competitive,
where you're always going to be hitting meaningful shots, and
you're going to make you know, really good friends because
you know you're going to see many of the same
people at the tournaments you're competing against, and you're likely
going to become good friends with them and even play
your casual golf with them.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Now, I want to talk about Elevating the Golf Experience
with MTK Group, New York. Thank you, big shout out
to EMPTK Group New York for so generously giving us
this incredible airtime for this amazing feature. Now, one of
the reasons this conversation's aligned so well with our Elevating
Experiences series is because we're seeing recreational sports merge with luxury,
hospitality and destination travel. Whether it's curated golf weekends, premium accommodations,

(46:53):
family friendly itineraries, mobile cigar lounges, I mean it all
the networking receptions or experiences that are designed for just
spouses and guests alike. People are increasingly wanting more than
just tea time. They want an unforgettable weekend right so
to speak. So these are the relationships that are formed
on the golf course. So logically the next step would

(47:15):
be to curate something exceptional for that very demographic. So
as conversations continue around collaborations with MPTK Group New York
to create travel packages and hospitality activations and that elevated
tournament experience, where do you see the biggest opportunity to
enhance the experience for both golfers and their families.

Speaker 11 (47:35):
Well, you're talking about golfers and their families. You may
be talking about travel obviously, right, So if you want
to turn a standard golf tournament into a blockbuster weekend event,
or a buddy's trip into something more extraordinary, you have
to shift the focus from five hours of a golf
round to a premium lifetime experience, lifestyle experience. For an

(47:59):
organization like MTK Group, that means elevating the tournament or
you know, your trip with your buddies into a true
destination event. I think MTA Group first they eliminate the
logistical friction with destination travel packages. They are for frictionless
stay and play ecosystems at premium regional resorts and pairing
them with curated partner y tineraries like Loyland locally loy

(48:22):
Island winery tours or Manhattan shopping trips, they can make
the weekend a win for the entire family. They reimagine
on site hospitality I think can be ip spectator pavilions
with potentially artismal food and premium bars culminating on high
end post round gala that naturally forces the business networking

(48:43):
that modern players look for. They also bring, you know,
a sensory element with their mobile cigar lounge, creating the
ultimate mid round or post round haven for custom whiskey
and cigar pairings. Finally, the MTA group erases golf guilt
by programming the weekend for everyone through clinics and resort
and amenities and probably can even connect you with other

(49:05):
sports and activities beyond just the golf package.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Yeah, I get I you know what you just said
is everything. That's where I think the future is headed.
People don't necessarily want another event, they want an experience.
They'll talk about for years afterwards. Now the future of
amateur golf, So golf today looks very different Christian than
it did a decade ago. More than half of encourse
golfers are now under age fifty, participation among women and

(49:30):
diverse communities is at an all time high, and golf
is attracting a younger audience than many people realize. So,
looking ahead over the next five years, what do you
believe amateur golfers will expect from tournaments that perhaps they
weren't expecting five or ten years ago.

Speaker 11 (49:44):
Well, it's hard to predict, but I would say, based
on my experience, you know, in every changing line landscape,
if you look at where golf is heading over the
next five years, I think tournament players are going to
expect an experience. It feels like, let's like a local
club outing and more like professional tour event mixed with
a premium lifetime experience. A decade ago, we just wanted

(50:07):
a manicured course and a printed scorecard, you know, and
that's pretty much what you had on you know, most
competitive outings. Moving forward, golfers are expecting advanced data and
media which we give them on the USAM Tour now,
and I'm sure over the time that's going to be
further enhanced. We're talking instance, stroke gains analytics on our
phones right after the eighteenth toll, and probably personalized AI

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generated video clips of our best shots to share on
social media. But the biggest shift is I think that
the golf tournament is no longer just about the golf.
It's an anchor, potentially for a three hundred and sixty
degree event.

Speaker 9 (50:40):
I know that.

Speaker 11 (50:40):
You know, on the USAM Tour we have major events,
two day major events pretty much every weekend throughout the year,
at least three weekends a month throughout the year, and
then we have a four day National Champion And these
are highly curated experiences, you know, top locations, sometimes at casinos,
but other desirable harriets throughout the country. So I think

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that's what we're really looking for currently, and you'll seek
even more of those experiences and the coming five to
ten years.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
I mean, it's remarkable to watch an industry evolve in
real time, and what I'm hearing is that the future
isn't just about better golf, it's about better experiences. So Christian,
thank you so much for joining us today. This has
been a fascinating conversation.

Speaker 9 (51:22):
I learned a ton of Oh, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
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