Shane Smith; Andrew Soares; Shuba; Dr. Joubin Gabbay; Brian J. Esposito; Jai Khanna

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Welcome back, beautiful Tri State Area and beyond. You're listening
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Zen SAMs. Here's to another exciting episode. We begin with
the debut of the Bosky Ranch Live Speaker series, leading
into the highly anticipated Bosky Ranch Live Music Concert Series

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this September twelfth. We're chatting about how the Yellowstone Effect
is turning independent bands into new country powerhouse is. Our
guest is Shane Smith. He's the lead singer and songwriter
from Shane Smith and the Saints. And right after that
we step into the lifestyle edit brought to you by
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We're chatting global by Design with Shuba cultural fusion and

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Stay tuned. We'll be right back with Shane Smith. He's
the lead singer and songwriter from Shane Smith and the Saints.

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You're listening to a moment of zen right here on
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Speaker 4 (03:31):
I'm your host, Zen Zams.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Today we're debuting the Bosky Ranch Live Speaker Series, leading
up to one of the most anticipated music experiences of
the year, the Bosky Ranch Live Music Concert Series, happening
this September at the Ranch, Texas, headquarters of filmmaker and
storyteller Taylor Sheridan. And if you've spent any time inside
Sheridan's television universe, whether it's Yellowstone eighteen eighty three or

(03:56):
the hit drama Landman, you may have noticed something remarkable.
The music in these shows isn't just background. It behaves
almost like another character in the cast. It sets the
emotional tone, it drives the narrative, and perhaps most importantly,
it introduces audiences to artists they might never have discovered otherwise,
Which brings us to today's conversation. We're gonna be chatting

(04:18):
how the Yellowstone Effect is turning independent bands into new
country powerhouses. Joining us now to kick off the Bosky
Ranch Live Speaker Series is Shane Smith, the lead singer
and songwriter behind Shane Smith and the Saints. Their blend
of red dirt country folk and roadhouse rock caught the
attention of millions when their song All I See Is

(04:38):
You appeared in Yellowstone, with additional music featured in Landman,
placing them squarely.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
In the storytelling universe created by Taylor Sheridan.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Now is one of the featured artists connected to the
Bosky Ranch Live concert series. Shane represents a powerful shift
happening across the music industry, the rise of the independent artists.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
In the streaming era.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Shane, Welcome to the sho show, Superstar hither How are
you so excited to have you on?

Speaker 5 (05:03):
Yeah, Yeah, glad to be here. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
You are really talented, my friend, and that helps a
great deal.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
But let's talk about the road before the spotlight. So
before the national spotlight arrived, you.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
And the band spent years doing what many musicians still
consider the real proving ground, right the road, dive bars,
dance halls, small venues, I mean, sometimes playing hundreds of show.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Shows a year. So looking back now, how did those
early years grinding it out on the road shape the
identity and really the chemistry of Shane Smith and the Saints.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
I think it honestly, it gave us a lot of
opportunity to find our own sound and to figure out
who we want to be as a band. If I'm
being honest with you, there wasn't the pressure of being
signed to a label almost immediately out the gates to
where we don't even know who we are yet, we
don't even know what we're trying to become. We had
a decade of figuring that out before we got any

(05:57):
kind of an opportunity at all. And so I think
in a way that's a blessing. You know, a lot
of people could say, oh, well, man, it's taken us
forever to catch a break or whatever. But I saw
it kind of as a blessing in that we were
a lot more prepared than we would have been by
the time it actually happened for us.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
And Shane.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
That's such a powerful reminder that the artists who build
longevity in this industry are often the ones who first
build their audiences face to face, long before the algorithms
ever catch up. And I think you know your history
and your journey leading up to obviously the Bosky Ranch
here speaks volumes, So congratulations again, not everybody.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
Can execute no, thank you, I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
So let's talk about the moment many fans discovered your music. Okay,
So the placement of All I See Is You on
Yellowstone introduced your sound to millions of viewers, and we've
seen similar surges across the show's soundtracks.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
So for example, when Whiskey.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Myers appeared on the show, their album jumped to number
one on the iTunes Country chart, really just demonstrating how
powerful that very exposure can be. So when that episode aired,
what changed the most for you? Whether it was streaming numbers,
ticket sales, or or the way new fans started discovering
your music.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
I think it was honestly all of the above. The streaming,
we went like we had never really been like featured
on you know, the app Shazam. We had gone to
like number one or number two I think on Shazam,
like immediately and anyway, So yeah, like at that point
we had built out like I think two hundred and

(07:33):
fifty thousand monthly listeners on Spotify, but those were all
people that we had gained from touring. We had never
been on a single Spotify playlist. We had never been
featured on anything at all. It's so you had that
many people roughly out there waiting for us to have
a moment that were you know, for us to get

(07:53):
a win. It was them getting a win as well,
which was so cool to have a fan base that
shares your experiences like that in anyway. So it all
just I think of it more of like a rather
than a viral moment. It just like connected so many
dots for our fans that were already out there, and
it just helped us to immediately see our Spotify numbers

(08:16):
go up. Are a lot of our social media helped
as well, but it was primarily like our listenership and
just our name awareness honestly, and our music awareness.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
That really highlights how storytelling and music do intersect in
a very powerful way because when a song appears, when
a song appears in a moment that resonates with audiences,
it stops being background. It really becomes part of the
emotional memory of the story. You did such a fantastic
job with that song. So now let's talk talk about
the rise of the independent artist. So one of the

(08:52):
most fascinating things about your career, Shane, is that so
much of it has happened outside the traditional Nashville if
you will label machine, right, I mean, you got stream
you got like what you just alluded to, You've got
streaming platforms like Spotify and Apple Music. They've created opportunities
for artists to really reach global audiences independently, but it

(09:12):
still takes an incredible amount of work to stand out.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
So do you feel like we're witnessing a real.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Shift where independent artists can build careers through touring, streaming,
and direct fan connection rather than just relying solely on
the traditional label system.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
Yeah, I think it's like a trade off, right, because
it's like you could sell one hundred physical CDs and
make one thousand dollars, Like that's just cash in hand.
That might help you get fuel and get you down
the road for your next show. But you also the
trade off of like the streaming thing is like you
could have a thousand streams or let's say even ten

(09:49):
thousand streams of a song, and you're probably not going
to be paid a fraction of what you would have
made off of selling those CDs, right, And but the
difference is is you have an opportunity to if people
are searching it out, they have the ability to search
you out globally across the world. It's like it's a

(10:10):
trade off. You really have to land those those playlists
spots if if you're wanting to see big growth. But
we've been very fortunate that, you know, honestly, through that
show and through other connections that we've made. It's just
over time we've had better and better luck with the
Spotify playlisting and and it's it's definitely helped us, you know,

(10:36):
take our music from what was like a nationwide touring
type of operation too. You know, we've gone overseas I
think five times now, and we've we tour overseas often,
you know, as a part of our yearly regiment.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
Let's talk about fame and the ongoing hustle.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
So one misconception people have about the music industry is
that once artists reach a certain level sold out shows,
major placements, will audiences, the grind finally slows down. But
many independent musicians say the opposite is true. Now that
the band is reaching larger audiences and bigger venues, does
it feel like you've finally arrived or.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
Does it still feel like the journey is just beginning.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
In a lot of ways, it does feel like it's
just beginning. It's just a very different type of workload
than it was before. A lot of it's similar. You know,
you've got better sleeping arrangements, you've got better hospitality arrangements,
you have a lot of things that are a lot
nicer than they were before. However, your workload does definitely

(11:40):
increase and the demand increases a lot, which is a
great thing. You know, it's all you could ask for.
One big blessing that we get out of it is
that I feel like we're finally at a place where
we get to determine, like how much we want to
work each year, how much do we want to tour
each year? How much time are we willing to spend
away from our families. Versus is how much are we

(12:00):
going to like, you know, honker down and we're going
to do one hundred shows this year. We're going to
do eighty shows this year, whatever that number is. You know,
having some success gives you it allows you to kind
of hold the reins and hold the cards and determine
that for yourself.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yeah, I love that perspective.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Now you're stepping into another fascinating chapter with the boy
Ranch Live Music concert series happening this September twelfth at
the Ranch. I'm so excited to see you perform for
fans of Taylor Sheridan's productions. The music has always felt
like an essential part of the storytelling, almost an invisible
cast member, shaping the emotional tone of the scene, if

(12:40):
you will. What excites you the most about performing in
a place like Bosky Ranch, where music and storytelling are
so deeply intertwined.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
Well, honestly, I'm just excited to see Taylor and some
of the family again and see you know, we've made
buddies with quite a few of that cast and and
a lot of those actors. Like once you once you
start working with Taylor, in a lot of ways, it
crosses over a lot of those actors, like you might
have someone in the lion S series as well as

(13:11):
the Yellowstone series or or Landman or eighteen eighty three
or whatever it is. You know, it's like uh and
it really has created like a just a really cool
network kind of family of uh of of actors and
and and and and staff. You know that that all

(13:33):
kind of dabble in in different uh in the different
shows and a lot of times at events like this
we get to catch up and say what's up to them?
And so uh, anyways, I'm just looking forward to uh
uh the camaraderie and the and the hang and and
uh and obviously the Boski Ranch is a beautiful place.
We we got to play out there several years ago

(13:55):
and and and yeah, I'm just I'm looking forward to it.
I think, uh, I think we'll be drawing a pretty
great fan base out of the DFW area for it,
and it should be the time, Shane.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
This has been such a fantastic conversation. Thank you so
much for coming on and being transparent and so for
our listeners.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
This is just the.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Beginning of the Bosky Ranch Live speaker series leading up
to the Bosky Ranch Live Music concert Series happening this September.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Thank you so much for coming on.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
Yeah, thank you so much for having me and look
forward to seeing you out there.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
To learn more about the concert series and upcoming artists,
you can visit Boskranch Live dot com and you can
follow Shane and the band on the Gram at Shane
Smith Music and at Bosky Ranch Headquarters.

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Welcome back, Beautiful New York Tri State Area and beyond.
You're listening to a Moment of Zen right here on
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your host, Zenzam's Welcome back to the Lifestyle Edit, brought
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intersection of travel, culture and modern living. Now here's something fascinating.

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According to the American Pet Products Association, Americans spend more
than one one hundred and forty three billion dollars on
their pets in twenty twenty three, and that's a number
that continues to climb as pets increasingly become central members
of the family. So at the same time, the travel
industry is experiencing a major shift. Right now, the surveys

(16:05):
show that roughly seventy five percent of US pet owners
say that they prefer to travel with their pets rather
than leave them behind. But historically, pet friendly hotels often
came with caveats, weight limits, restricted areas, or policies that
made travelers feel like their four legged companions were more

(16:26):
tolerated than welcomed. Today that philosophy is rapidly changing, so
from check in to treat time, a new standard for
pet friendly luxury travel is definitely emerging, one that recognizes
that when families travel, pets traveled too. And joining me
today is someone helping lead that evolution. Andrew Source is

(16:48):
the marketing and Customer Experience manager for the US portfolio
of hotels at Melia Hotels International. With more than eleven
years in hospitality, he helps oversee marketing, strategy, partnerships, guests,
experience initiatives, and creative programming designed to turn great hotel
stays into those unforgettable brand moments. And one initiative that's

(17:09):
gaining attention is.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Pet Friendly by Melia. It's a program designed around the
idea that traveling with pets should never require compromise. Andrew,
I want to hear more. Welcome to the show, Superstar.

Speaker 6 (17:20):
Thank you for having me. It's a real treat and
a real pleasure to be here to talk to you
about my two favorite things, my love of travel and
my love of animals.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
So let's start with the bigger cultural shift we're seeing.
Over the past decade, pets have moved from the backyard
to the center of the household, right and when you
look at the American Pet Products Association those reports, they
show that roughly two thirds of American households now own
a pet, and millennials in particular are leading the charge,

(17:48):
often referring to themselves proudly as pet parents.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
We've all said that, right, So that.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Emotional bond is changing consumer expectations everywhere, from airlines to
restaurants to hotel. From your perspective inside the hospitality industry,
how has this rise of the if you quote unquote
pet first traveler reshaped the way hotels think about the
guest experience.

Speaker 7 (18:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:12):
No, I think that you said it best in your introduction.
I think that the biggest shift is that pets are
no longer seen as an extra traveler. They're seen more
now as part of the family. So, you know, to
your point, when Americans are spending more than one hundred
and forty billion a year on their pets, I think
it's a clear signal that people want to include them
in every part of their lifestyle. And I think that that,
you know, transcends into travel as well. Hotels have certainly

(18:34):
taken note of that change. You know, years ago, pet
friendly and hospitality often meant that pets were simply just
you know, allowed within the space. Maybe you paid a
small fee and that was about it. But today I
think it means something much more intentional.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, and many travelers have experienced the classic, you know,
pet friendly fine print policies that can make traveling with
animals feel just stressful more, you know, rather than enjoyable,
And a lot.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Of hotels still have that.

Speaker 6 (19:01):
No, you're right.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
You at Melia, you took a different approach with your
Pet Friendly by Melia program, So what makes your approach
fundamentally different from the typical pet friendly policy travelers might
see elsewhere.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
Yeah, well, I think that what makes pet Friendly by
Melia a little bit different than the other programs that
you'll see around the world is that the experience is
actually designed with pets in mind. So, you know, across
our designated pet friendly properties, we've tried to think about
what traveling with a pet really looks like, you know. So,
for example, many of our hotels provide guests with a
guidebook that will highlight nearby pet friendly attractions, things like parks,

(19:36):
walking trails, you know, restaurants with outdoor seating, local pet stores,
you know, so travelers can actually go out and explore
the destination with their pets rather than you know, leaving
them behind in the room and coming back to the
middle later point in the day. Some properties have even
gone a little bit further by integrating dedicated dog parks
or outdoor play areas directly on site so that pets

(19:59):
have spaced exercise. Others offer additional services. We've got a
few hotels that actually offer veterinary support just in case
there's something that you know, God forbid goes wrong within
this stay and We're seeing a lot of hotels also
experiment with things like dedicated pet dining menus, where dishes
are prepared and portioned specifically with animal nutrition in mind. So,

(20:19):
you know, I think at the end of the day,
the goal of the pet friendly program is pretty simple.
We want to ensure that when guests travel with us,
you know, their pets shouldn't just be accommodated, they should
feel just as welcomed as any other member of the family,
which is you know, how they're seen across many households today.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Now, one feature that really stands out is something that
pet owners immediately notice, the no weight limits. This is
interesting to me, so for many travelers with larger dogs,
that restriction has historically been a major barrier when booking hotels.
Why was it important for Melia to remove those limits
and create a more inclusive policy for pet travelers.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (20:57):
So, you know, speaking from personal experience, I have a
Berniese Mount dog who's right at the hundred pound mark,
and I know firsthand how challenging it can be to
fine places that would accept a dog of that size,
And too often we find that large breeds are excluded
simply because of their size. Even though many of them,
you know, like you're Saint Bernard's, your Newfoundland's, You're Bernese
Mountain dogs, there are actually some of the more incredibly gentle,

(21:19):
calm and affectionate dogs within the spectrum. So when we
designed pet Friendly by Malia, we wanted to make sure
that no pet was left behind because of their size.
You know, bigger dogs deserve the same joy, the same comfort,
and the same freedom to explore that smaller dogs do.
And by removing the weight limit and designing spaces and
services that accommodate pets of all sizes, you know, we
allow families to truly bring everyone along and you know,

(21:42):
not just the easy to accommodate pets.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Now, another detail I love is that this program isn't
just about policies, It's about experienced design. So from those
curated welcome kits that you talked about to destination pet guides,
it sounds like Melia is thinking about the stay through
the lens of both the traveler and the pet.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
I love this. So what are some of the thoughtful touches.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Guests can expect when they arrive with their pets at
Amelia property.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
So, at a bare minimum, every hotel that's in the
Pet Friendly by Melia program. Will provide the basic essentials,
will provide pet bedding, dishware, so that'll be a dog
bowl for food and for water. We'll provide a welcome treat,
a roll of potty bags, a chew or a tug toy,
and then a guidebook like I mentioned of all of
the nearby pet friendly attractions, restaurants and shops. But as

(22:34):
I mentioned also before, you know, some of our properties
take it a step further finding ways to integrate the
guest experience into the pet experience. In Madrid, at our
Grand Melia Palacio della stuit Case, guests can actually enjoy
dog walking and dog grooming services. So while you're treating
yourself to a spa experience, you know your pet is
right next door getting pampered as well. And then right

(22:55):
here in New York, you know a little bit closer
to home. At Inside New York Nomad, there's a dedicatd
pet menu that features chicken and fish based dishes that
come complete with sides, and they're all handcrafted in portion
according to the size of the pet. And we find
that it's you know, these thoughtful touches that transform stay
from being just pet friendly to one that's being something
convenient and truly memorable.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Wow, it's really exciting to see hospitality evolve in a
way that truly reflects how people live today, and I
love that you are at the forefront of that narrative. Well, Andrew,
thank you so much for joining us today and sharing
how Melia Hotels is really redefining what it means to
travel with the entire family pause included now.

Speaker 6 (23:36):
Thank you so much for having me. It is a real,
real fun be here.

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Welcome back, beautiful New York Tri State Area and beyond.
You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
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I'm your host, Zen Sam's Welcome back to the Hydration
with Heart series, brought to you by Once Upon a Coconut.
Because staying hydrated isn't just about wellness, It's about showing
up fully in your purpose. Today's guest is a perfect

(24:49):
example of that. Shuba is a global pop artist blending
Western pop with South Asian sound and visual culture. Known
for her striking aesthetics and dance driven performances, She's built
an independent international audience of over ten million listeners and viewers.
Her work sits at the intersection of music culture and
modern femininity, and what I love most is that she's

(25:11):
doing it all her way, without waiting for permission. Shuba's
story is about identity, self trust, and what happens when
you lean into who you are instead of sending yourself
down to fit a mold, and that's exactly what we're
diving into today.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Shubah, Welcome to the show, Superstar.

Speaker 8 (25:27):
Hello, thank you, thank you for the intro.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
So excited to have you on. Who are so talented,
so so.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Much of who weve become creatively right starts at home,
especially when you grow up in a traditional family where
expectations can be very clearly defined.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
You've spoken openly about your cultural roots and the.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Values you were raised with, and I think a lot
of listeners and viewers, especially women, will relate to that
push and pull between tradition and passion. So you came
from a traditional Indian family, yet you've carved out a
very global artistic identity. What was it like sharing your
dreams with your family and how has their support or

(26:07):
evolution of support if you will, shape the artist you
are today.

Speaker 8 (26:11):
So fortunately, my dad is just a dreamer. I mean,
that's the whole reason he's in this country in the
first place, because he just he creates the reality he
wants like he's the original manifestor.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
In our family.

Speaker 8 (26:23):
So I think having his support was really critical. My
sister's also been supportive and I think my mom took
the longest time to get around to it. But I
think even in my moments of you know, despair and hopelessness,
even she like, even when I'm crying, She'll be like,
at least monetize the tears, like, at least record yourself crying.

(26:45):
And I'm like, okay, slay, Like, she's not wrong. But
I think I did get really fortunate in that way,
and that my parents really believed in me even when
things weren't quite working out.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Well, that's powerful.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
It's not just about chasing a dream, it's about bringing
your family with you on the journey. And it sounds
like you have quite the roadmap and an immense amount
of support, and that's priceless. Yes, now you've built an
international audience. Your work travels across borders and cultures and languages,
And sometimes there are moments in a career that just
don't feel real, no matter how hard you worked for them. Right, So,

(27:21):
looking back so far, what has been the most surreal
Is this really my life kind of moment in your career,
the one that still stops you in your tracks?

Speaker 8 (27:31):
Hmm. I think one of the ones I always think
back to is when I sang with Indian composer Aareman
at the Hollywood Bowl. I think he had like a
pretty much sold out show there and I did a
couple of songs with him, and after the show, I,
you know, was just going to say hi to him

(27:51):
and congratulate him. And they are all these like Indian
American influencers, content creators, just creative people who I've always known.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
And I was like, oh my god, I'm like one
of them and they know.

Speaker 8 (28:06):
Me, like we all know each other.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Like I'm almost there. I got goosebumps. You kind of
transported me back to that moment. So let's chat virality
and visibility.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
We are living in a time where virality can change
everything overnight, right, But it can also be fleeting if
it's not rooted in something real. You didn't just go
viral once you built momentum and turned visibility into.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
What I call longevity.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Right, So how did navigating virality shape your confidence as
an artist? And what did you learn about yourself once
millions of people were suddenly watching and listening.

Speaker 8 (28:44):
I think a lot of times we can compare ourselves
to what is you know going on around us, Like, oh, well,
this person has forty million views and I only have twenty,
and like it just gets to the weeds of that.
But then I think I just always have to step back,
and every time I go viral or pick up a

(29:05):
new skill, I'm just learning new skills, right And I
guess like even today when I was having, you know,
a moment of like what's going on, like you know,
what's happening with my life right now and figure out
my goals, I was like, I will always be able
to adapt to the situation because through my creative processes
of going viral, like wrapping in Hindi, which I'd never

(29:27):
done before by the way, like that was very on
the spot, or like coming up with freestyles on the
spot or whatever. It is, Like, I'm just adapting newer,
newer skills, and I think they come from a real place.
So I will always be able to create and be,
you know, an asset to entertainment, which is what I've
always wanted.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
So I think that's that's kind of what I've learned.
So let's chat about exactly that. The rise of your genre.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
So what excites me the most about your music is
that it doesn't fit into into one box. So you
your sound blends Western pop with South Asian influences, like really, naturally,
how do you see this.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Genre blending movement evolving and.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
What role do you feel artists like you play in
shaping what global pop looks like next.

Speaker 8 (30:17):
It's putting in the sauce at in the right ways,
like I think that La has and especially the US
has the sauce. It has really creative, innovative people. And
I think a lot of other countries who are doing
this are just starting to get you know, Hollywood came
by so quickly, like they had so much history so fast,

(30:39):
and I think it's just because they got the sauce,
they got the right people. And I think our job,
or I guess like my calling as a creative, as
an artist, is to take the things I already know,
the stuff that they don't have, and bring it to them.
And it's not even like me being like, oh well
this makes me different. It's just in my blood because

(30:59):
I grew up with it. Because there's no it's I'm
naturally going to sing something that has an Indian twist.
I am really inspired by other countries, like so so
inspired by all my travels, Like I just I really
love visiting other places, so it's naturally going to come
out in these sessions, and I think the best thing
we could do is absorb everything around us, every experience,

(31:23):
and do our best to bring that to a creative session.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Thank you so much for coming on our show and
having such a great conversation with me.

Speaker 8 (31:30):
Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
You can go to Shubaofficial dot com and you can
check her out on the platform Instagram and across all
social media at Shuba Music. You're listening to a moment
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Com Welcome back, beautiful New York Tri State area and beyond.
You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
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I'm your host, Zen Sam's Welcome back to Sculpting the
Future series brought to you by Alloclay and Tiger Esthetics.
Let's get right into it. Globally, the aesthetic market is

(32:31):
projected to exceed two hundred billion dollars within the next
decade alone. And what's fueling that growth is a clear shift.
Patients are moving away from synthetic replacement based procedures and
toward regenitive, biologically aligned solutions. And here's why that matters.
Traditional fat grafting has historically had unpredictable retention, often cited

(32:52):
between fifty to seventy percent depending on technique and processing
and blood supply, which means up to half of what's
transferred may not survive long term. Now enter the next evolution.
Technologies like aloclay are designed to act as a biocompatible
adiposed matrix, essentially creating a supportive scaffold that helps transplanted
fat integrate, revascularize, and survive more predictably. So instead of

(33:16):
just transferring fat, we're now engineering the environment around it.
And when you think about that, this isn't just improving
a procedure, it's redefining how we approach breast volume, asymmetry, correction,
full body conjuring, and even reconstruction over time. Joining me
right now is doctor Zubenga Bay. He's a board certified
plastic surgeon and former clinical chief of plastic surgery at

(33:38):
Cedar Sinai. He's based in Beverly Hills. He specializes in
advanced breast and body contouring, complex revision cases, and customized
surgical design. He also trained at UCLA in early adipose
derived stem cell research, which helped shape the regenerative techniques
we're now seeing in modern fat grafting. My expert on
the microphone, doctor Gabay, Welcome to the show, superstar.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Thank you.

Speaker 10 (34:00):
I'm so excited to be here.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
So excited to have you on.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
So let's dive right in. We're seeing a full category shift.
Patients are no longer asking what implant should I get?
They're asking what can I use from my own body? So,
from your perspective, what's driving this movement towards regenitive approaches
across both breast and body procedures.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
What are you seeing?

Speaker 10 (34:22):
So it's a couple of things. For one, the technology
is just getting better. We're getting so much better at
using your own body's stuff to achieve the results you want.
So our fat grafts are taking better. We have products
like Aloclay that are emerging into the market that allow

(34:43):
us to use some variation of personal fat. And I
think the other thing is that we're looking at trends
that people want less crazy, dramatic, truly fake results. So
you know, we're going towards more natural by using more
natural and by looking more natural.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
And I think that's a critical shift because we're moving
from a model of replacement to regeneration and that really
fundamentally changes both the outcome and the long term relationship
patients have with their bodies.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Right, I think that's at the core of it all.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
But let's talk about the core problem why products like
aloclay exist. So one of the biggest limitations historically has
been fat survival. We know that fat cells require a
blood supply to live, and without proper integration, they simply
don't last.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
That's why retention rates have been inconsistent.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Now, what aloclay is designed to do based on its
platform is provide a structural, biologically compatible matrix that supports
cellular signaling and vascular in growth, essentially helping our bodies
acceptance sustain the graphic fat. So, what have been the
biggest limitations doctor of traditional fat grafting and how do
regenerative platforms like alocla help solve those challenges in terms.

Speaker 10 (36:01):
Our biggest problems with fat grafting are things like not
enough retention because it's put in not in the best way,
or the fat cell simply can't stay alive long enough
until the body starts creeping in there. So we've improved
our technology and our techniques of putting in small amounts

(36:21):
of fat into the body to allow the body to grow.
We have improved the quality of the stuff that we're
putting in there so that it really is more ready
for the body to integrate, getting rid of other sort
of unnecessary products that you get from the fat. And
we're just doing a lot of adjunct things now with

(36:42):
things like alo clay. It kills two birds with one stone.
Alo clay is fat that's taken from cadavers. You remove
the DNA from that, you remove the lipid from that.
So initially it comes in as just this thing that
adds bulk and volume. But because it is from a body,
and because it is autologous to you, it's something that

(37:04):
your body recognizes. Later on, it becomes this perfect scaffold
and signal to your body to say, hey, I can
have fat in here. Why don't you bring in my
fat stem cells. Why don't we start little by little
integrating and growing our own fat so that rather than
simply breaking down the sort of foreign ish material, your

(37:27):
body uses it as something to grow into and make
potentially a great, long lasting and long term solution. So
it's super exciting.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
I mean, and that's where this becomes a real advancement,
right because we're not just placing tissue or we're supporting
it at a cellular level, which is what ultimately determines
whether results last. Like you said, now I want to
go to the mommy makeover, So pregnancy can affect the breast,
the abdomen, the skin, and fat distribution all at once.
I mean, we definitely have our work cut out for us.

(38:00):
Your mom's Yeah, Traditionally, mommy makeovers addressed the areas separately.
But now regenerative approaches like alloklay allow you for a
more cohesive full body restoration strategy when you're consulting your patients. So,
how is this technology changing the way you approach the
full body transformation like mommy makeovers?

Speaker 10 (38:19):
You know, traditionally it's been you go to the o R.
You're in there for a good four to six seven
eight hours and you're doing the breast, you're doing a
tummy tuck, you're doing fat transfer to the butt, and
it can be a massive procedure, often with a pretty
challenging recovery. Well, now with the technology that we're growing,

(38:42):
we can do these things still as a big cohesive procedure,
but then we can also touch up, touch up, touch up.
In the out patient setting, we can do things in
a much more targeted way. We can actually do a
big thing and then see how the body settles down
and then say, hey, listen, let's add a little bit
of aloclay here to give some more enhancement. Let's take

(39:06):
a little bit more away here in the office under
local for you know, to touch it up here. So
we are now able to just give our patients more
options in terms of how they do it, and more
refinement of their result to get it from here to here,
to really just take every result to the maximal extent

(39:30):
we can, rather than just saying, well, you know that
was good enough. We were in the or for a
long time.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
We did what we could.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
So let's chat about the longevity and the tissue quality.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
So how does.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Aloclay impact long term tissue quality and the way results
age over time?

Speaker 10 (39:47):
The goal with aloclay and the basic science that supports
and our evolution of experience is pointing towards something where
as we talked about, it's a structure you put in
there little by little, rather than and simply breaking it down.
Your body starts sending in its own fat derived stem
cells and ultimately puts in its own fat, so that

(40:11):
you're literally creating a city in a desert. Right, You're
taking a place where it had no fat and building
something that actually is a long lasting, sustainable fat environment,
so that the goal will be long term. It doesn't
all go away, It stays there and it creates something

(40:33):
that is what you want for the long term. Now,
we're gonna wait and see how that goes. There are
definitely going to be further advancements. But that is the
most exciting hope for aloclay And again it's what we're
seeing in this long term. And when you bring fat
to someplace, it also changes the whole environment. It improves
the quality of the skin overlying that area, it improves

(40:55):
the softness of that area. It can even improve functional
things like reduced pain and certain scarred in areas or
other really damaging area or damaged aspects of the body.
So it's it's going to be something that long term
is going to be a game changer in how we
address our patients.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
I certainly learned a lot today, So thank you for
being my expert on the microphone.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
I truly appreciate you being here with us today.

Speaker 10 (41:21):
Absolutely, this is great. I'd love to talk about this
and I hope it helped everyone listening.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
And a huge thank you, A huge thank you to
Alo Clay and Tigeresthetics for leading the regenerative movement, and
of course a big thank you to the good doctor,
doctor Zubin Gabe. You could learn more at Gabee Plasticsurgery
dot com and on the gram at Gabe Plastic Surgery.
That's Gabe with two b's Gabba y, So we'll be
right back after this.

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Speaker 3 (42:16):
Welcome back, beautiful New York Tri State area and beyond.
You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
seven to ten war the Voice of New York iHeartRadio.
I'm your host, Zen Sam's Welcome Back to the Heart
of Influence series brought to you by Diamond Lake and
its subsidiaries. Now here's something fascinating happening behind the scenes
in Hollywood right now. The real power in entertainment isn't

(42:40):
just the film or the series anymore. It's the IP
behind the story. Because a powerful narrative today doesn't live
in just one place. It can expand into streaming platforms,
sports documentaries, docu series, and global franchises that travel across
audiences and cultures. So today we're exploring what I like
to call Hollywood's currency, why intellectual property has become the

(43:03):
new power in film, sports and streaming. And joining us
is Jay Kanna, film and TV producer and media entrepreneur
and founder of Legacy IP and co founder of Victory
Sports Media, which develops premium sports documentaries and storytelling around
iconic athletes and cultural moments in sports.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
And joining me as always is my heart of influence.
Co contributor Brian J.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Esposito, CEO of Diamond Lake Minerals and founder of Esposito
Intellectual Enterprises.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Welcome to the show, Superstars.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
Great intro.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
All right, we're going to rock and roll.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
Jay.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
I'm gonna start with you.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
You split more than two decades inside one of Hollywood's
most influential production ecosystems from your vantage point, when you
look inside the industry, when you look at how Hollywood
operates today compared to when you first started, what has
changed the most about how stories are developed and financed
and ultimately brought to audiences.

Speaker 11 (44:00):
I mean everything's moved upstream. It used to be that
you sold an idea into a system and hoped it
got made. Now it's about owning and originating IP from
day one. It's not just creative anymore, you know, like
kind of how we view projects and work with talent.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
It's very strategic.

Speaker 11 (44:16):
Who's the audience, how does it travel, how does it monetize?
And I think for us, which has been exciting that
all the financing has opened up, it comes from brands.

Speaker 5 (44:25):
Athletes, family offices.

Speaker 11 (44:27):
So if you package your right, you know, you you
really start to control the just you know, kind of
from A to Z. When that when that didn't used
to exist before.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
And I mean, Jay, you've actually been right at the
center of that shift, particularly in the sports storytelling space.
Right So through Victory Sports Media, you've developed projects with
iconic athletes and major networks, including documentary storytelling that really
connects sports with culture and the identity. Why do you
think sports documentary is an athlete driven story alwayes particularly

(45:01):
have become some of the most powerful and fastest.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Growing storytelling formats in the streaming era.

Speaker 11 (45:07):
It's validated, it's a universal language that we all know
and love and understand. You know, and we say this
when we're doing doc it's not really about the sport,
right These are all human interest stories. All the sports
are set there as a backdrop of something which we
can relate to, whether it's soccer, basketball, football, but it's
really us And I think it, honestly, it speaks to
the audience that the audience is looking for that type

(45:29):
of connection, and I think sports is just the one
thing that does check off all the themes of life that
we're all going through. And I think when, as I said,
there's so much stuff out there, so much content, what
do you want to watch? What inspires you? What can
you sit down with your partner, with your family. It's
the other part of it too, So for us as producers,

(45:50):
we have to create content. It's for everybody.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
So for us we're easy.

Speaker 11 (45:54):
We'll watch highlights, but how do you what's the narrative,
what's the story, what are we learning from it? How
is it in firing? And it's interesting it's not even
just about athletes. We're doing a project now on the
Seattle Seahawks, and it's interesting because of how much of
an influence it's.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
Having in just Seattle itself as a city.

Speaker 11 (46:15):
So now there's a whole ecosystem that we're affecting, which
we're going to influence.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
It just brings people.

Speaker 11 (46:20):
Together too in a big way, which is what we'll
end up doing just with our doc and having local
screenings and getting all the stadium involved in all the
so like it's really it's really interesting. It's a great tool.
You know, for us we call a movie's docs. Our
job is just to execute in a very creative way.
So you're not so you know, it's that there's still

(46:41):
an interesting narrative that's being told, right.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
Yeah, And so Brian, I want to bring you in here.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
So you look at these trends through the lens of
emerging tech and institutional growth.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
Right, So when you see.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
This massive rush towards IP, how does that change the
way investors and founders should be looking at content? I mean,
is it is it still just entertainment? Or is it
now a hard financial asset.

Speaker 5 (47:01):
Oh, combination of both.

Speaker 7 (47:03):
And I got to say one of the most important
things to think about when it comes to sport is
this is a fan base that is already built in.
So when you look at the print and advertising and
marketing dollars that traditionally would have to go into promoting
a new piece of IP, it's there. The audience is there,
so when you drop something about a team, about a player,
about an icon, you know they're waiting at the gates

(47:26):
to go and see it or watch it on some
streaming channel. So when that's embedded, there's a lot of
less work, energy and resources that have to go into
something to get people excited. It's already there, and I
love the sense and nostalgic these pieces have. Like Jay
and I were talking last night, I watched the Yogi
Barra one five times, Like I wasn't around in that era.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
I wish I was.

Speaker 7 (47:49):
I feel like my soul was, but this body wasn't.
I watched Nolan Ryan one three times. There's just certain
ones that you know, based upon my life, I was
a baseball player, so I connect with that. You live
vicariously through these people. You spend time and money to
go to these games. Your dad or your mom or
your brother took you like, there's a lot of history
that you feel like you're part of it. And then

(48:11):
you have people that take it to another level that
were the jerseys that think that they're actually playing on
the field, Like that's I'm not that person. But there's
all different levels of the sports enthusiasts.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
And you can even.

Speaker 7 (48:20):
Look at how much people pay to go to Super
Bowl game, Like, the amount of money people will pay
to be part of something is incredible. So when you
have great content being creative about that icon about that team,
you resurrect really good revenue streams and channels for these
IP owners.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
And that's such a powerful point what you just said,
because suddenly that moment in time, a film, a documentary
that sports, Like you said that those moments, they're not
just entertainment. It becomes a foundation for licensing and distribution
and tech partnerships and even entirely new business ecosystems. Right
from your perspective, looking at emerging technologies and global markets,

(49:00):
how do you see the future of media evolving when
intellectual property can potentially be tokenized and financed differently or
expanded into new digital ecosystems that really allow creators and
investors to participate in the long term value of a story.

Speaker 7 (49:17):
There's just nothing more a fan would do that have
closer proximity to their favorite team or player, and if
it's through a token mechanism, where now in the past
the teams are owned by family members or a group
of gps that own the majority of the team, or
large investment firms, the fans outside of a few teams

(49:38):
that the fans that actually own the teams, the only
way that you participated was you were a season ticket holder.
You got maybe made enough money to own the box
seats or suites and yeah, and you bought exclusive merchandise
maybe if you were offered it. But when you have
the tokenization element, you have now the ability to have
a further connectivity to that IP, which would be the

(49:58):
team or the player themselves. And I think the NIL
movement is going to help force a lot of these
teams that were stuck on trying to figure that out
know how to keep that machine either because the younger
generations they understand crypto and tokenization, they're utilizing this tool

(50:18):
now to monetize their own skills and passions and talents.
So the youth movement is going to make this shift
happen for Stop That Jay and that we are working
on to be able to tokenize the content and bring
this fan base in to be part of the revenue
share of where that IP is distributed to monetized, or

(50:40):
how it's engaged with audiences around the world. That's extremely
exciting for fans because now they're not just participating in
the entertainment purpose of it, but they also have the
ability through tokenization of the IP to actually bend itIt
from the upside of the revenue that the IP creates.
And then maybe there's special meet and greets, maybe there's
an exclusive merch for them, maybe there's some sort of

(51:01):
a stadium tour or a locker room tour. I mean,
they're going to be case by case, depending upon the
marketing of the IP owner, the team, or the actual player.
But you're going to see a shift in older players.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
I stay older.

Speaker 7 (51:14):
I mean now on older players twenty seven years old,
which is crazy to me, but you have older players,
they're going to have to go back and figure out
how do I implement this into my business right and
then the manager of those players trying to figure out how.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
Do they get their piece, and the agents and all
this stuff. But the futiful thing about what we're.

Speaker 7 (51:30):
Working on, and with Jay's history, we know how to
mess all that together and we know how to make
sure everybody can benefit and play without disrupting the traditional
mechanisms of how these businesses and machines work.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Wow, this has been a masterclass in the new economy
of storytelling.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Without a doubt. It's not just about what you see
on the screen. It's about really who owns the rights
to the future. So gentlemen, big thanks to both of you.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
Thank you, my friend. Thanks guys.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
All right, you guys can check out Jacana at Victory
Sportsmedia dot com. And you can check out Brian Jaysposito
find him at Diamondlakeminerals dot com. You can check him
out on the ground at Brian Underscore j Underscore Esposito.
That was the heart of Influence series brought to you
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