October 24, 2025 • 18 mins
We discuss the anomaly that is the 1993 stop-motion animated film The Nightmare Before Christmas — a gothic Halloween musical comedy for children that hinges of themes of death, depression, belonging and the Christmas spirit.
Extraordinarily offbeat and original, Nightmare has inspired generations of people with its music, aesthetic and lesson of embracing what makes each of us unique.
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Extraordinarily offbeat and original, Nightmare has inspired generations of people with its music, aesthetic and lesson of embracing what makes each of us unique.
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome to that.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
First listen to the music podcast for people who don't
always get.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
The hype but want to. I'm Andrew, I'm Dominique.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
And today we're talking about then raise hands wildly.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Ben imeb Before.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Chris was the only movie and soundtrack that you'll need
for the rest two months or so, because it covers
we got Halloween and Christmas covered, nothing else needed.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, so you just made me watch a number of
clips of performances of music from The Nightmare Before Christmas
and also covers of music from this classic stop motion film.
And I'm realizing that I don't think I understood when
I first saw what this movie is about, and I
(01:03):
definitely do not understand it now.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
No, it's a It's one of those movies that actually
the plot is very very thin. It's a lot more
about the music and the vibe, the spooky vibe, the
spooky vibes, the beautiful esthetic. Because yeah, the story is
(01:27):
basically it's basically like about a guy who wants to
find something new.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
So Jack Skellington is the guy.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
The Ellington aka the Pumpkin King.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Danny Elfman, who also composed the music for the score
for this.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Film, yes, see, this is very complicated. This guy, Henry
Sellick actually direct it. The characters were created by Tim Burton,
so Tim Burton gets a lot of credit, gets all
the credit for it, basically because his esthetic is all
over it and it's probably his most iconic movie, even
(02:17):
though he has so many other movies. Henry Sellick created
this movie based on a poem that Tim Burton wrote,
so it's all it's kind of it's like a lot
of people came.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Together to create it, truly. But yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
The soundtrack is by Danny Elfman and it stars Danny
Elfman as as Jack Skellington. The part of the reason
that I have stayed really loyal to this movie or
like I just love this the soundtrack is because I really,
(02:54):
I actually do identify with Jack Skellington and his feeling
of being misunderstood, and I think that's like the aesthetic
and the kind of rejection of Christmas and seeing beauty
(03:17):
in spooky vibes. I think, like it's not something that's
that is only for kids at all.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, I mean the aesthetic is so spooky that I
I'm actually a little surprised to see that it was
a Disney film.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I thought you were gonna say, I'm actually a little scared.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I mean, I'm sure I had nightmare before Christmas themed
nightmares when I was a child. But again, I have
never understood the what this movie is about. So there's
we watched before we started recording. Jack's lament that scene
from the movie. And he has like a job scaring people.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yes, it's all very good music, because.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
That's like his job.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
That's his job, and it's important. He's like the boss.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And he says he's dead.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, but the thing is everybody in Halloween Town is dead, and.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
It appears to be their job as well.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
To just scare people around Halloween times. Yeah, but it
with it, Well, that's the busiest time with in.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
The context of the movie, it's only Halloween Town that
he exists in. Ye. And then what happens is basically
after after he laments his.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
He's as good as anyone's ever been at being scary,
but he's tired of just bringing terror to people.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, he's bored, and he hears.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
About these other holidays like Christmas.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
He finds he finds He's like, oh, okay, Christmas, this
is what I need.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
This is what's been missing it's this whole new thing.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I'm gonna bring Christmas to Halloween Town basically, but then
he instead he actually brings Halloween to Christmas Land, and
he scares everybody in Christmas Land.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
At some point, they have to scheme to kidnap Santa Claus,
whom they call Sandy Claus.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yeah, they kidnap Santy Clause because Jack Deck. Basically he
goes looking for something new and then he realizes that
he really actually is that guy all along, and he
has all these new ideas for Halloween stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
At the end and he's like, actually, I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Great at this because he tells like the three you know,
evil Triplets to go get Sandy Clause terrible idea, and
he's like, I just He's like, I just want to
give Santa a break.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And I just need to like ask him.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I guess, like pick his brain, I guess about Christmas
so I can like figure it out. And then these
evil kids like kidnap him and get him to the
Boogeyman and then Jack is like, no, don't mess with Santa,
like he's nice.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
So basically.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It is a great movie and the music is insanely good.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
The composition of it.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I didn't realize that it was so star studded, with
Paul Rubins and Catherine O'Hara playing the evil triplets who
kidnapped Santa.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, and I was surprised Johnny Depp is not involved
in this. I would have certainly.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Said thank god.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well, because it's animated, so you don't need his like
weird vibe bones for the movie.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
For the for it's probably also because it's animated. That's
why the weirdness happens, with the director being a different person.
You probably need an expertise in animation to do something
like that. But yeah, the music is very iconic. There's
a covers album, a tribute album to.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
The movie called Nightmare Revisited, So.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Marilyn Manson is on that. Corn Is on an.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
All American rejects, plain white teas, Amy Lee from a.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Lot of rock and punk and metal from the mid aughts.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, it was it. You could have this.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
It's a bit of a hard listen because they're not
really songs. They're more like parts of the script. Like
a lot of the quote unquote songs are like dialogue.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, I see what you're saying, because the thing is
the movie is mainly music also, so it's kind of
like it's also not necessary to.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Watch the movie for me.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Listen to it. You can just listen to it on tape.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You can, yeah, exactly, Like.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Okay, So the soundtrack length is sixty one minutes. The
film length is an hour and sixteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, the stuff that happens in between.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
These minutes of talking.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
It's not important, really.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
And actually some of that might be credits.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
It probably is, and a lot of it is just men.
It's like spooky.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Between yeahs cinematic and uh evocative. It's not really like
a song with a verse and with a chorus. It's
there's dialogue and stuff like that. So I found, uh
listening to some of the music to be a bit
of a chore. But yeah, but don't get your hands
(08:41):
off my neck.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, I I you know, I had to put my
foot down because I really actually just wanted to call
attention to it more. I'm realizing more for people who
are already fans of The Nightmare before Christmas, because I
think I'm just playing the whole thing in my head,
so I don't need to see the movie to understand
(09:06):
and to experience the music. I am. I'm imagining Danny Hoffman.
I'm imagining a skeleton and the iconic like curly mountain
in front of the moon.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And you know one of my.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Early crushes obviously both Jack Skellington and Sally Sally, yes,
totally right.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Sally's the one. She's got one arm right.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, she's like a she's like a Frankenstein's Monster type
right right, right of Frankenstein whatever. And then she got
she poisons the doctor because he's like kidnapped her.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's it's like I think it is more.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
The more you say of the plot to me, the
more confused I am.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
That's the whole.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
That's the thing about it, Like there's not really super
a rhyme, a reason to anything that goes on. It's
a lot of vibes, but they come together so beautifully.
And I just encourage people maybe to go watch the movie.
(10:16):
I think that would. Seeing your response to it, Andrew,
you know, it made me think, okay, for maybe this
isn't instant classic, like when I hear it. When I
first listened to Nightmare Revisited, which was only a few
years ago, I didn't know it existed even you know,
(10:39):
I could have I should have figured it out because
it was all over T shirts and hot topic in
that year two thousand and eight. But I heard that
and I said, what do I love mid early offs
music and like email music and I'm before Christmas? This
(11:01):
is made for me. Those are two things that my
co host Andrew has not expressed much of a taste for. So,
you know, looking back to a few minutes ago when
I introduced this to you, I'm thinking, Okay, maybe this
isn't a huge sell, but I think that I for
(11:23):
a Halloween episode.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You can't miss it. You gotta. We had and had
to address it.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
You can only listen to the Monster Mash so many times.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And come on, Andrew, we did an episode about the
Monster Mash. We can talk about Danny Elfman and Tim
Burton's I mean, we are doing it, but I you know,
I think we are not doing this. Is this is yeah,
this is a this is a reversal. We're actually not
recording this. It's all a trick.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I'm just recording this to delete.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Uh, but like it is actually.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Uh, it's actually hell, it's kind of hilarious. Like Jack's lament,
that song has gotten me through some tough times.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Like before I discovered comedy.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I definitely was like seeking something. Did anyone exactly I
would listen to this and I throw off you who
deny that what I do I am the best. And
it's like I was like, I know that I am
good at something. You know, I know I've been good
(12:37):
at all the things I've tried. And I and you know,
people have people in my life have often pushed me
in one direction. It's like, oh, you're you're a good stylist.
I want you to be a stylist. You're a great photographer.
I want you to be a photographer. You're a great
you know, woodworker and computer CNC, A doer to do
(13:00):
that and I and I didn't feel fulfilled in any
of those things. And I was seeking something that I
didn't know what it was. So like as silly as
it is, this song and like the whole plot of
the movie that is very thin, but just that like thread,
(13:27):
which he does come back around at the end. He's
like at the end of the movie, he's like he's like,
I fucked up everything. Oh no, everyone's mad at me.
And then he's like, wait, I'm Jack the Pumpkin King.
At the end of the movie, he says that again,
and he's like, he's like, wait a second, I was trippin'.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I actually know who I am.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
But like it was through this filter of other people,
so I was like not able to understand it. So
and I think, like the weirdness of the movie and
the like the fact that all of these characters are
kind of misunderstood, and the artistic vision that went into
this is actually something that is so inspiring to me
(14:12):
as a person and as an artist that I gotta
scream it from the rooftops for anyone who hasn't, especially
because in a few weeks, I'm gonna have to listen
to Mariah Carey for the rest of the year, so
you know, I gotta put We're gonna be listening to
Nightmary Visited for at least the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Are you ever gonna let that person go that you
kidnapped or not?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
No, Unfortunately me and that person are. We're kind of
in love now, so we're gonna live happily ever after
me the Boogeyman, and all of the people in my dungeon.
If you would like to see any of that stuff,
(15:01):
please come to my comedy double feature November first, it
is going it is my birthday Hallo weekend Saturday at
nine pm, Come see U See Black. And then after
that at ten thirty is Outlaugh Season two, episode three.
(15:25):
It's a live comedy version of Survivor. We just did
the first episode and I made it through and it's
going to be for every week almost so the rest
of the year. Hopefully I make it all the way there.
But it's going to be a really fun night if
(15:45):
you are in New York and you don't want to
deal with the clubs or any of that, but you
want to celebrate Halloween with me, And I probably won't
wrench at night member for Christmas that day. So you
got that out of the way now, and you can
come and wish me a happy birthday at my show.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Andrew, how was your first listen?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Hey, I mean it was confusing. It was dark, yes,
but the death of my soul no one veiling emotion. Yeah,
And I've never been able to wrap my head around
is this for Christmas? Is for Halloween? And that's for Halloween?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Well no, but that's the that's the magic of this movie.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
It's because it doesn't say Halloween in the title. It
says Christmas.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
That's that.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
The first song is this is Halloween age old question.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Is it a Halloween movie or is it a Christmas movie?
It is both.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
It's for Christmas people to watch on Halloween, Halloween people
to watch on Christmas, or just people who like Disney
movies and and also emo music.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
There should be a Nightmare before Christmas Land at Disney World.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That is that is so true what we don't and
we have something maybe it's not similar, but I think
the inspiration for it, which is there is a Nightmare
before Christmas porn parody, which you know, I think it's
a live action, so you know, I can picture those
(17:25):
characters in a more wholesome environment at Disney, like you know,
there is a way to do that. So yeah, I
think you're totally right, Andrew, and and that's what you
were thinking when you said that.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Of course I'm not even so sure anymore. Yeah, thank
you listening.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
To this episode, Happy Halloween.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
And Happy Birthday, and we'll be back next week with
another episode of that
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Quit
Welcome to that.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
First listen to the music podcast for people who don't
always get.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
The hype but want to. I'm Andrew, I'm Dominique.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
And today we're talking about then raise hands wildly.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Ben imeb Before.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Chris was the only movie and soundtrack that you'll need
for the rest two months or so, because it covers
we got Halloween and Christmas covered, nothing else needed.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, so you just made me watch a number of
clips of performances of music from The Nightmare Before Christmas
and also covers of music from this classic stop motion film.
And I'm realizing that I don't think I understood when
I first saw what this movie is about, and I
(01:03):
definitely do not understand it now.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
No, it's a It's one of those movies that actually
the plot is very very thin. It's a lot more
about the music and the vibe, the spooky vibe, the
spooky vibes, the beautiful esthetic. Because yeah, the story is
(01:27):
basically it's basically like about a guy who wants to
find something new.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
So Jack Skellington is the guy.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
The Ellington aka the Pumpkin King.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Danny Elfman, who also composed the music for the score
for this.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Film, yes, see, this is very complicated. This guy, Henry
Sellick actually direct it. The characters were created by Tim Burton,
so Tim Burton gets a lot of credit, gets all
the credit for it, basically because his esthetic is all
over it and it's probably his most iconic movie, even
(02:17):
though he has so many other movies. Henry Sellick created
this movie based on a poem that Tim Burton wrote,
so it's all it's kind of it's like a lot
of people came.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Together to create it, truly. But yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
The soundtrack is by Danny Elfman and it stars Danny
Elfman as as Jack Skellington. The part of the reason
that I have stayed really loyal to this movie or
like I just love this the soundtrack is because I really,
(02:54):
I actually do identify with Jack Skellington and his feeling
of being misunderstood, and I think that's like the aesthetic
and the kind of rejection of Christmas and seeing beauty
(03:17):
in spooky vibes. I think, like it's not something that's
that is only for kids at all.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, I mean the aesthetic is so spooky that I
I'm actually a little surprised to see that it was
a Disney film.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I thought you were gonna say, I'm actually a little scared.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I mean, I'm sure I had nightmare before Christmas themed
nightmares when I was a child. But again, I have
never understood the what this movie is about. So there's
we watched before we started recording. Jack's lament that scene
from the movie. And he has like a job scaring people.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yes, it's all very good music, because.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
That's like his job.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
That's his job, and it's important. He's like the boss.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And he says he's dead.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, but the thing is everybody in Halloween Town is dead, and.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
It appears to be their job as well.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
To just scare people around Halloween times. Yeah, but it
with it, Well, that's the busiest time with in.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
The context of the movie, it's only Halloween Town that
he exists in. Ye. And then what happens is basically
after after he laments his.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
He's as good as anyone's ever been at being scary,
but he's tired of just bringing terror to people.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, he's bored, and he hears.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
About these other holidays like Christmas.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
He finds he finds He's like, oh, okay, Christmas, this
is what I need.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
This is what's been missing it's this whole new thing.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I'm gonna bring Christmas to Halloween Town basically, but then
he instead he actually brings Halloween to Christmas Land, and
he scares everybody in Christmas Land.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
At some point, they have to scheme to kidnap Santa Claus,
whom they call Sandy Claus.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yeah, they kidnap Santy Clause because Jack Deck. Basically he
goes looking for something new and then he realizes that
he really actually is that guy all along, and he
has all these new ideas for Halloween stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
At the end and he's like, actually, I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Great at this because he tells like the three you know,
evil Triplets to go get Sandy Clause terrible idea, and
he's like, I just He's like, I just want to
give Santa a break.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And I just need to like ask him.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I guess, like pick his brain, I guess about Christmas
so I can like figure it out. And then these
evil kids like kidnap him and get him to the
Boogeyman and then Jack is like, no, don't mess with Santa,
like he's nice.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
So basically.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It is a great movie and the music is insanely good.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
The composition of it.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I didn't realize that it was so star studded, with
Paul Rubins and Catherine O'Hara playing the evil triplets who
kidnapped Santa.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, and I was surprised Johnny Depp is not involved
in this. I would have certainly.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Said thank god.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well, because it's animated, so you don't need his like
weird vibe bones for the movie.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
For the for it's probably also because it's animated. That's
why the weirdness happens, with the director being a different person.
You probably need an expertise in animation to do something
like that. But yeah, the music is very iconic. There's
a covers album, a tribute album to.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
The movie called Nightmare Revisited, So.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Marilyn Manson is on that. Corn Is on an.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
All American rejects, plain white teas, Amy Lee from a.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Lot of rock and punk and metal from the mid aughts.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, it was it. You could have this.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
It's a bit of a hard listen because they're not
really songs. They're more like parts of the script. Like
a lot of the quote unquote songs are like dialogue.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, I see what you're saying, because the thing is
the movie is mainly music also, so it's kind of
like it's also not necessary to.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Watch the movie for me.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Listen to it. You can just listen to it on tape.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You can, yeah, exactly, Like.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Okay, So the soundtrack length is sixty one minutes. The
film length is an hour and sixteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, the stuff that happens in between.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
These minutes of talking.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
It's not important, really.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
And actually some of that might be credits.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
It probably is, and a lot of it is just men.
It's like spooky.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Between yeahs cinematic and uh evocative. It's not really like
a song with a verse and with a chorus. It's
there's dialogue and stuff like that. So I found, uh
listening to some of the music to be a bit
of a chore. But yeah, but don't get your hands
(08:41):
off my neck.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, I I you know, I had to put my
foot down because I really actually just wanted to call
attention to it more. I'm realizing more for people who
are already fans of The Nightmare before Christmas, because I
think I'm just playing the whole thing in my head,
so I don't need to see the movie to understand
(09:06):
and to experience the music. I am. I'm imagining Danny Hoffman.
I'm imagining a skeleton and the iconic like curly mountain
in front of the moon.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And you know one of my.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Early crushes obviously both Jack Skellington and Sally Sally, yes,
totally right.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Sally's the one. She's got one arm right.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, she's like a she's like a Frankenstein's Monster type
right right, right of Frankenstein whatever. And then she got
she poisons the doctor because he's like kidnapped her.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's it's like I think it is more.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
The more you say of the plot to me, the
more confused I am.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
That's the whole.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
That's the thing about it, Like there's not really super
a rhyme, a reason to anything that goes on. It's
a lot of vibes, but they come together so beautifully.
And I just encourage people maybe to go watch the movie.
(10:16):
I think that would. Seeing your response to it, Andrew,
you know, it made me think, okay, for maybe this
isn't instant classic, like when I hear it. When I
first listened to Nightmare Revisited, which was only a few
years ago, I didn't know it existed even you know,
(10:39):
I could have I should have figured it out because
it was all over T shirts and hot topic in
that year two thousand and eight. But I heard that
and I said, what do I love mid early offs
music and like email music and I'm before Christmas? This
(11:01):
is made for me. Those are two things that my
co host Andrew has not expressed much of a taste for. So,
you know, looking back to a few minutes ago when
I introduced this to you, I'm thinking, Okay, maybe this
isn't a huge sell, but I think that I for
(11:23):
a Halloween episode.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You can't miss it. You gotta. We had and had
to address it.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
You can only listen to the Monster Mash so many times.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And come on, Andrew, we did an episode about the
Monster Mash. We can talk about Danny Elfman and Tim
Burton's I mean, we are doing it, but I you know,
I think we are not doing this. Is this is yeah,
this is a this is a reversal. We're actually not
recording this. It's all a trick.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I'm just recording this to delete.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Uh, but like it is actually.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Uh, it's actually hell, it's kind of hilarious. Like Jack's lament,
that song has gotten me through some tough times.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Like before I discovered comedy.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I definitely was like seeking something. Did anyone exactly I
would listen to this and I throw off you who
deny that what I do I am the best. And
it's like I was like, I know that I am
good at something. You know, I know I've been good
(12:37):
at all the things I've tried. And I and you know,
people have people in my life have often pushed me
in one direction. It's like, oh, you're you're a good stylist.
I want you to be a stylist. You're a great photographer.
I want you to be a photographer. You're a great
you know, woodworker and computer CNC, A doer to do
(13:00):
that and I and I didn't feel fulfilled in any
of those things. And I was seeking something that I
didn't know what it was. So like as silly as
it is, this song and like the whole plot of
the movie that is very thin, but just that like thread,
(13:27):
which he does come back around at the end. He's
like at the end of the movie, he's like he's like,
I fucked up everything. Oh no, everyone's mad at me.
And then he's like, wait, I'm Jack the Pumpkin King.
At the end of the movie, he says that again,
and he's like, he's like, wait a second, I was trippin'.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I actually know who I am.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
But like it was through this filter of other people,
so I was like not able to understand it. So
and I think, like the weirdness of the movie and
the like the fact that all of these characters are
kind of misunderstood, and the artistic vision that went into
this is actually something that is so inspiring to me
(14:12):
as a person and as an artist that I gotta
scream it from the rooftops for anyone who hasn't, especially
because in a few weeks, I'm gonna have to listen
to Mariah Carey for the rest of the year, so
you know, I gotta put We're gonna be listening to
Nightmary Visited for at least the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Are you ever gonna let that person go that you
kidnapped or not?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
No, Unfortunately me and that person are. We're kind of
in love now, so we're gonna live happily ever after
me the Boogeyman, and all of the people in my dungeon.
If you would like to see any of that stuff,
(15:01):
please come to my comedy double feature November first, it
is going it is my birthday Hallo weekend Saturday at
nine pm, Come see U See Black. And then after
that at ten thirty is Outlaugh Season two, episode three.
(15:25):
It's a live comedy version of Survivor. We just did
the first episode and I made it through and it's
going to be for every week almost so the rest
of the year. Hopefully I make it all the way there.
But it's going to be a really fun night if
(15:45):
you are in New York and you don't want to
deal with the clubs or any of that, but you
want to celebrate Halloween with me, And I probably won't
wrench at night member for Christmas that day. So you
got that out of the way now, and you can
come and wish me a happy birthday at my show.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Andrew, how was your first listen?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Hey, I mean it was confusing. It was dark, yes,
but the death of my soul no one veiling emotion. Yeah,
And I've never been able to wrap my head around
is this for Christmas? Is for Halloween? And that's for Halloween?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Well no, but that's the that's the magic of this movie.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
It's because it doesn't say Halloween in the title. It
says Christmas.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
That's that.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
The first song is this is Halloween age old question.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Is it a Halloween movie or is it a Christmas movie?
It is both.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
It's for Christmas people to watch on Halloween, Halloween people
to watch on Christmas, or just people who like Disney
movies and and also emo music.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
There should be a Nightmare before Christmas Land at Disney World.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That is that is so true what we don't and
we have something maybe it's not similar, but I think
the inspiration for it, which is there is a Nightmare
before Christmas porn parody, which you know, I think it's
a live action, so you know, I can picture those
(17:25):
characters in a more wholesome environment at Disney, like you know,
there is a way to do that. So yeah, I
think you're totally right, Andrew, and and that's what you
were thinking when you said that.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Of course I'm not even so sure anymore. Yeah, thank
you listening.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
To this episode, Happy Halloween.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
And Happy Birthday, and we'll be back next week with
another episode of that
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Quit
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