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March 31, 2026 59 mins
This week on The Black Perspective, Misty Jordan chats with former Georgia Lt. Governor Geoff Duncan about leadership, politics, and the road ahead. 

Vanessa Tyler takes a deeper look at the history of slavery as the nation prepares to mark 250 years since the signing of the Declaration of Independence, examining what that milestone means for Black Americans today. 

Morgyn Wood speaks with Dr. Traci Bethea from Georgetown’s Lombardi Cancer Center about the American Cancer Society’s Voices of Black Women study and its impact on health outcomes. 

Ramses Ja and Q Ward return with another installment of Q’s Corner, featuring a compelling conversation with news anchor Nichole Deal

Doug Davis chats with Jekwenta Primm — a.k.a. Coach K — about the strategies and mindset behind building debt-free capital as a Black business owner. 

And Roland S. Martin joins us for commentary.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Sunday, March twenty ninth, the last Sunday of the
month of March, and on today's show, bi IN News
anchor Misty Jordan sits down with former Georgia Lieutenant governor
and now Democratic gubernatorio candidate Jeff Duncan. The Black Information
Networks Vanessa Tyler reports on the history of slavery and
the country preparing to celebrate two hundred and fifty years

(00:21):
of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. The bi
In's Morgan Wood caught up with doctor Tracy Bethea from
Georgetown's Lombardi Cancer Center about the American Cancer Society's Voices
of Black Women's study. Bi IN podcast hosts Ramsay's Jaw
and q Ward are back with another Q's Corner from
their daily podcast, and today you'll hear their recent discussion

(00:43):
with news anchor Nicole Dial. Doug Davis talks to Jaquina
coach k prim about the secrets behind gaining debt free
capital as a black business owner or entrepreneur, and we
get this week's commentary from Rowland S Martin. These stories
are coming your way. On today's program, Welcome to the
Black Perspective. I'm your host, Mike Island.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Welcome to the Black Perspective, a weekly community affairs program
on the Black Information Network featuring interviews and discussions.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
On issues important to the black community.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Good Sunday, and welcome to the Black Perspective. The Georgia
May primary is less than two months away. There are
seven candidates running for the Democratic Party primary. Bin News
anchor Misty Jordan sat down with former Georgia Lieutenant governor
and now Democratic gubernatorial candidate Jeff Duncan about why he
switched parties election integrity and his views on abortion laws

(01:37):
in the state.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Joining the Black Information Network, I have former Georgia Lieutenant
Governor Jeff Duncan, who is now running to be the
next governor of Georgia. Welcome to the Black Information Network.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Glad to be here.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:50):
How are you today. I'm having a great day. Good good, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
So you served as lieutenant governor from twenty nineteen to
twenty twenty three as Republican. Last year you became a Democrat.
You've said that you are the only quote Democrat in
the race that can be a Republican because I've got
Democrats and dependents and disgusted Republicans that will show up
and vote for me.

Speaker 7 (02:12):
Explain why you believe this is true.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
Well, I think we got to go back even further
than when I declared I was a Democrat. I think
the last six years I've lived out loud about as
loud as anybody in the country, one pushing back on
Donald Trump, but also writing opinion columns about common sense
gun legislation, expending Medicaid, or repealing the Heartbeat Bill, and
the list goes on. So it's been a process for
me that I've lived out loud. Yeah, we're building this
coalition of Democrats, independence, and disgusted Republicans, and I'm willing

(02:37):
to be able to have those conversations. I've been behind
enemy lines. I think that's really quite honestly. I know
the talking points of the folks that are in the middle,
I know the talking points of the disgusted Republicans. I'm
willing to agree to disagree with them on one or
two issues and still bring them into the fold and
build this tent that's big enough to not just win
this election cycle. I think that's what Democrats really since
this moment in time, as this isn't just about winning

(02:59):
one election.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Cycle.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
This is about winning for what could be a decade
or a generation here in Georgia, getting things back on
track away from the bombastic, toxic leadership style of Donald
Trump and MAGA and these these crazy, deranged Republicans that
want to just take us into the ditch every two minutes.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Many voters may question whether this is a genuine shift
or a strategic move. What would you say to that, Yeah, and.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
That's a fair That's that's fair for sure. But I
think the reality is this has been a faith journey
for me and my wife. Every chance I get to
have a conversation with an individual or a room or
an interview like this, I just share my heart. I've
been as open as I can possibly be about the
transformation as I woke up as a Republican with astros
marks next to the most important phrase, and that's love

(03:43):
your neighbor. If my neighbor didn't look like me, act
like me, love like me, talk like me, or probably
most importantly, vote like me, you weren't really called to
love them. I wake up as a proud Democrat with
no asterisk marks, with this great toolkit to reach into
the lives and the needs of Georgians, whether they're somebody
who doesn't have affordable housing, or somebody doesn't have affordable
childcare or healthcare, or you pick the issue. I now

(04:04):
have a better toolkit to meet those needs.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Do you feel that your views have evolved since leaving
a Republican party on key issues like voting rights and healthcare?
And if so, why, how?

Speaker 6 (04:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (04:15):
Certainly, I think on a lot of issues, and I
think it resonates with a lot of individuals across the state.
When I walk into these rooms, I think a lot
of folks realize that they have moved their feet on
some issues. And for me, it's about information. I'll give
you probably one of the most important issues out there
is the abortion issue. You know, as Lieutenant governor, I
was wrong to sit there and think a room full
of state legislators knew better than millions of women. When

(04:36):
I started to understand these difficult personal situations and these
unbelievably complicated health scenarios, it just became abundantly obvious that
women deserve the right to choose with themselves, their faith,
their doctors, their family, and no legislators ever are going
to be smarter than some woman's situation or personal feelings.
And so day one as governor, I've told everybody that
I'm going to sign an executive order that clarifies doctors

(04:58):
can practice medicine without fear of prosecution, and also introduced
legislation to repeal the six week ban. And the interesting
thing is even Republicans don't have the votes to push
back on that. If we can get this to the floor,
I think we can work with enough Republicans that are
in the middle on this issue or listening to their
constituents to actually get it repealed, along with some common
sense gun legislation expanding medicaid. Even Republicans know those are

(05:21):
the right things to do.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
When we moved to Georgia from North Carolina, my husband
was born and raised here in Atlanta. He is a
product of Atlanta Public Schools and he was in the
gifted program. At that point, there was like a Governor's
honors program where students were able to the top students
in the state were able to be recognized by the governor.

(05:45):
So when we came back, we decided to move to Georgia.
One of the things that he was concerned about was
education here in the state. So Georgia faces challenges in
education and healthcare and infrastructure.

Speaker 7 (05:57):
Which area would.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
You prioritize in your first one h days as governor
and how would you pay for it?

Speaker 5 (06:03):
Well, first and foremost, I look through the lens of
education as the father of three boys in public schools.
My wife and I went to public schools. In fact,
that's where we met, was in high school in Fulton
County at Chattoochi High School. We've got to rework our
funding formula. The QBE funding formula is forty years old
and it does nothing. It doesn't wait for transportation needs, inflation, poverty, technology.

(06:25):
I mean, it's so outdated, and so we've got to
rework that. And I think we can work as it's
by part of an issue. Folks realize that rising tide
that lifts all boats is quality education. And we've got
to do more as we invest. And so the first
one hundred days, I plan to use ten percent of
the state's for Any Day Fund, which is seventeen billion dollars.
Let's use one point seven billion of that to put
in what I'm calling a jumpstart fund to wrap our

(06:47):
hands around the axle of poverty and other issues like education, inequalities,
Medicaid expansion, affordable housing, affordable childcare, and the list goes on.
Take that to give those individuals that one jump start
they needed to get up and out. It's not a handout,
it's an investment. It's Georgia's harder and taxpayer dollars that
it's an investment and an opportunity to take us from

(07:08):
good to great. And I think that's what George is
ready to do.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah, when it comes to election integrity, how would you
ensure fair elections while protecting voting rights for all in Georgia.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yeah, this is an issue near and dear to me. Right,
I was the one that stood up as loudly as
anybody in the country against Donald Trump. My family received
death threats because of it, my kids got picked on
at school, We've lost customers and friends, and the whole
list goes on. And so this is a very near
and dear issue to me. And so I'll continue to
fight for millions of Georgians at castor vote, even if
it's not for me or for my party. But election

(07:40):
integrity is I'm very concerned. I mean, Donald Trump's FBI
raid on the Fulton County Warehouse had nothing to do
with twenty twenty. We've litigated that time and time again.
That has everything to do about sowing seeds of doubt,
and so we've got to make sure that we get
it out to the public that they're on the prow.
They're trying to scheme up something to knock us off
our more and to steal this election, and we can't

(08:02):
let it happen. I do think there's one thing different
this year than there was in twenty twenty, and that's
I think folks in the middle realize and even a
lot of Republicans realize that the games are being played.
Nobody actually believes that the twenty twenty election was rigged
but Donald Trump. But he hasn't let them free to
say the truth, and so those disciples of MAGA continue
to just champion lies and conspiracy theories. But look, we've

(08:25):
got to stay vigilant, and we've got to make sure
that more people have the opportunity to vote, then less
people have the opportunity to vote. I mean, that's truly
what democracy looks like. And I often say, look, we
can get a man of the moon in three days.
We can certainly figure out how to make sure somebody
who's registered to vote is actually the person that votes.
We don't need to jump through hoops or make them
go through unfair hoops to make sure that happens.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
You've talked about not being afraid to stand up to
President Donald Trump. We've seen some of the people who've
decided to take a stand Marjorie Taylor Green, for example.
Why do you feel and confident to be able to
take that position.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
I never got into politics because I was attracted to politics.
I got it into politics because I really feel strong
draw towards leadership and to be a good leader.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
At least.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
The leaders that I most respect are the ones that
are honest and true to themselves and true to the
people that they represent. And for me, it's just doing
the right thing. Will never be the wrong thing. That's
our family motto. And doing the right thing is standing
up to Donald Trump when he's trying to lie and
cheat and steal about an election. Doing the right thing
was campaigning alongside Kamala Harris all over the country during

(09:32):
the election. Doing the right thing is now running for
governor as a Democrat and telling the world that I'm
proud of being a Democrat and that there's a few
issues I didn't get right, and I don't say I
hit the wrong button or I read the wrong memo.
I just say I got it wrong, and I'm glad
to be getting it right now.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
If you are elected governor of Georgia, what is your
single most important priority and how will you unite people
in Georgia across both party lines to achieve it.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
I go back to that Jumpstart Fund. I think there's
so many opportunities to help. Taking one point seven billion
dollars in immediately day one, with Governor's discretion, putting it
into that jump Start Fund, and investing into things like
the CAPS program, which will directly lower childcare costs so
that single mom can actually go back to work and
afford to to make sure that that family has an
affordable housing project that they can be a part of

(10:18):
instead of sleeping in the backseat of their car or CouchSurfing.
Expanding medicaid so folks don't have to go into the
emergency room and bankrupt themselves or their family. That to
me is a huge priority day one. There's more work
to do right as I mentioned, signing the executive order
on the Heartbeat Bill, and taking care of and proving
education there's a lot in aggressive agenda. I think that

(10:41):
there's going to be a lot more supportive Republicans inside
the legislature for our agenda. I think that's important to
understand it. And I also think it's unique to see
when I win this election for governor, there's going to
be other Democrats that win also up and down the ballot. Right,
I'm going to be able to draw a consensus around
so many other folks so that state House and state
Senate majorities for Republicans get much much softened. We'll bring

(11:04):
some state wide officials alongside us, and Georgia will be
ready to go from as I mentioned a little bit ago,
go from good to great.

Speaker 7 (11:10):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
And lastly, if you are elected governor, how can you
fix the pollen?

Speaker 8 (11:16):
Like?

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Can you just make it this go away? How can
you address the pollen problem?

Speaker 5 (11:20):
Okay, so here's a big idea. Let's do so well
economically that everybody has enough spare change to take vacation
for a couple of weeks when the pollen hits real hard.

Speaker 6 (11:28):
How's that sound sounds great? I mean I got your support.
That sounds great.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Thank you so much for talking with the Black Information
Network Democratic gubernatorial candidate Jeff Duncan, Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Thanks for the opportunity, Thank you Misty, and thanks again
to Jeff Duncan. The Georgia Primary is May nineteenth. Georgia
primary elections are open to all voters, regardless of party affiliation.
To get more info on your voting location, log on
to Georgia dot gov. As the country prepares to celebrate
two hunds in fifty years since the signing of the

(12:02):
Declaration of Independence, it must be noted that not all
Americans were free. Slavery was still legal, especially on the
Bradonsville Plantation located in South Carolina. As the Black Information
That Works with Vanessa Tyler reports, a black man had
a very important role in the Revolution.

Speaker 9 (12:19):
There are some black people who have the honor of
knowing their history intimately. They heard the stories directly from
the elders, and in rare instances they hear from an
ancestor who was enslaved. Margaret Parson Willins knew her great
grandmother who lived to one hundred and fourteen years old. Margaret,

(12:41):
Welcome to the Black Information Network. Thank you tell us
about Margaret Watt Irby, who I'm sure you were named
after who lived under slavery.

Speaker 10 (12:51):
I knew her as a small child, visiting her with
my parents. She's my mom's grandmother. She was a tiny
little lady, but she was very feisty. She loved to talk,
even though she was a slave. Brand By Margaret was
a smart lady. One of the things I remember was

(13:14):
her saying that she worked hard so that her children
could have a better life than she had. I was
born about three miles from historic Bretonsville, and I still
live on the property that has been passed down in
my family from my great great grandfather, who was a slave,

(13:37):
but when he was freed, he and his brother were
fortunate enough to be able to purchase about three hundred
acres of land. I grew up with my father. My
father grew cotton. Cotton sent me to college.

Speaker 9 (13:56):
The historic Bretonsville, located in McConnell's South Carolina in York County,
was a massive plantation with hundreds of slaves, and as
South Carolina, along with the rest of America, celebrates the
upcoming two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the signing of
the Declaration of Independence, the Brattonsville Plantation played a role,

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and most notably one of the enslaved, a man named Watt,
had a part in helping achieve victory.

Speaker 10 (14:24):
He was very important. What was the slave for Colonel
William Branton? He and his wife Paully and doing the
battle of Huck's defeat. What was sent to locate Colonel
William Braton.

Speaker 9 (14:43):
By notifying Colonel Bratton the enemy was at his gates.
It gave him a heads up and a plan for victory,
giving what a place in history.

Speaker 10 (14:52):
So he was sent to locate Colonel William Bratton to
him to let him know that his home was surrounded
by soldiers and they were looking for him, and Huck
was defeated.

Speaker 9 (15:08):
White and his wife are buried on the historic Brattonsville Plantation,
and so are hundreds of others enslaved, including Margaret's ancestors.
Now at eighty two years old, she and the descendants
of historic Brattonsville preserve the graves and astonishingly did something else,
united with the other descendants, the White Ones owners of

(15:28):
the plantation.

Speaker 10 (15:30):
I am a crawfit. So Lila and my great great
grandfather were enslaved on the Braton plantation, and that's how
I became a descendant. The black descendants and the white
descendants of the slave owners. We are a group. Now,
we are a family. We do a lot of things together.

Speaker 9 (15:53):
Interesting. What's that dynamic like?

Speaker 10 (15:55):
Oh, it's it's so exciting, and people can't believe that
we are together. The descendants of the slave owners admitted
that they were ashamed of what their ancestors had.

Speaker 9 (16:11):
Done, and through DNA, they found they really are families,
some even shared the same blood. The plantation is now
used as a public learning center, a place of healing,
a place to never forget.

Speaker 10 (16:25):
This is a part of American history from which we
were left out of. It's a part of American history,
and to the descendants, it brings us closer. Even though
we don't have names, we know that they are our ancestors,
and it makes us proud that now we have a

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resting place that has been identified as the resting place
for our ancestors. We owe it to our ancestors to
keep their legacies alive.

Speaker 9 (16:58):
Margaret Crawford Carson Willins, thank you for holding tight to
our history.

Speaker 10 (17:04):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 9 (17:06):
I'm Vanessa Tailer on the Black Information Network, your home
for Black News First.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Thank you Vanessa. Now we get commentary from Roland S.

Speaker 11 (17:14):
Martin.

Speaker 8 (17:15):
The opinions, beliefs, and viewpoints expressed in this commentary are
those of the author and do not necessarily represent those
of BIN and its founding partners and employees. Now it's
time to bring the funk with Roland S Martin.

Speaker 12 (17:30):
Let me show y'all how the right wing loves to lie.
This is a Twitter post from this so called right
angle news network about a bill in Virginia.

Speaker 13 (17:43):
Virginia just passed a bill that prioritizes government contracts based
on race and gender. The bill, HB six to one
is now sitting on the governor's desk waiting to be signed.

Speaker 11 (17:52):
So here's what it does.

Speaker 13 (17:53):
It forces state agencies to hit a forty two percent
quota for SWA in businesses meeting businesses owned by minorities, women,
or certain designated groups. It also sets aside government contracts
under one hundred thousand dollars specifically for those businesses. Translation,
if you're a small business owner who doesn't fall into
those categories, you're pushed to the back of the line,
not because of price or quality or experience, but because

(18:15):
of race and gender quotas that's not equality, that's state
mandated discrimination in government contracting.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
And it's happening right here in Virginia.

Speaker 12 (18:23):
This is the caption breaking. Virginia residents are outraged as
Governor Abigail Spaandberger moved to sign legislation reserving nearly fifty
percent of state contracts for minority owned businesses and barring
white men from contracts under one hundred thousand dollars. So
I pulled up the bill and guess what it says.
HB sixty one applies to all small businesses. It says

(18:49):
the Department of Small Business that's supplied to verge these
small Small Swim Business Procurement Enhancement Program established establishes the
Small Swim Business Procurement Enhancement Program with a state wide
goal of of certified small swam businesses. Yeah, that's all businesses.
The one hundred two hundred thousand dollars set aside is

(19:11):
to certify small swim businesses and a micro business set
aside for such purchases, requiring that such purchases up to
ten thousand dollars be set aside for war two micro businesses. Oh,
that's all micro businesses. Hmm, they're liars. I'm Roland Martin

(19:32):
on the Black Information Network.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Thanks Roland, and tune in for daily commentary from Roland
Nest Martin and James T. Harris right here on the
Black Information Network. The Bion's Morgan Wood caught up with
doctor Tracy Bethea from Georgetown's Lombardi Cancer Center about the
American Cancer Society's Voices of Black Women Study. This national
effort is looking at why black women face higher cancer

(19:56):
rates and worse outcomes. In DC and Baltimore. About four
hundred women are already enrolled and enrollment is ongoing. For
more information, visit Voices dot cancer dot org. Now let's
get into their.

Speaker 7 (20:09):
Conversation, doctor Tracy.

Speaker 8 (20:11):
But they is helping lead a national effort to better
understand why black women face higher cancer rates and worse outcomes,
and in the greater DC and Baltimore region, enrollment for
the Voices of Black Women's study conducted by the American
Cancer Society has already reached about four hundred black women.

(20:32):
Doctor butthee thank you so much for joining us and
speaking more on this topic.

Speaker 7 (20:36):
How are you today?

Speaker 6 (20:38):
I'm well and thank you for the invitation to join you.

Speaker 8 (20:41):
Absolutely so for those listeners meeting you for the first time.
I'm meeting you for the first time and it so
far has been a pleasure. Off the record, please give
us some background as to what drew you to cancer
research and why you focus your work specifically on black women.

Speaker 14 (21:00):
So I kind of explored several different things on the
many years it takes to get a PhD and get
into research. But one of the things that I liked
about cancer is that it's a hard outcome. It's oftentimes
easy to know when you have it when you don't
have it.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
It's important to people.

Speaker 14 (21:21):
It definitely changes your life and the life of the
people that you love. So having the opportunity to decrease
risk of cancer, to understand why people get cancer, or
to help people live better after a diagnosis of cancer
really appealed to me because it means I can hopefully
impact a lot of people in a positive way.

Speaker 8 (21:43):
And when it comes to Voices American Cancer Society Study,
Voices of Black Women's Study, what is it or why
is it such a critical project at this moment?

Speaker 14 (21:55):
I think one of the important things to me is
that it for us by us. You know, there's the
Scientific Advisory Board of mostly black women. One of the
scientists who's leading the study, Lauren McCullough, is a black woman,
and I think you learned something different when you are

(22:16):
talking within a group as opposed to talking at a
group or about a group. And there are sometimes kind
of nuances or things that aren't written.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
Down that we know that we don't know that other
people don't know.

Speaker 14 (22:29):
You know, that can impact the way that you design
a study, the questions you ask, the things that you
hear from what said, And by approaching it in this
way and having groups of black women contribute to this
data set, it means we can pick up on some
of those things, and we can also learn about patterns
in people's lives different how different seasons of life and

(22:51):
different experiences can really influence health. As I'm sure you
and your listeners know, black women are not a monolith.
Every single person is different from every single person, and
so also looking within the group means that we're not
trying to compare us to anyone else, but trying to
understand better about our experiences, which will help us understand

(23:13):
better how to help each other.

Speaker 8 (23:15):
Absolutely, I love how you said that black women are
not a monolith. That is so true, there's so much
diversity within just the one group right now. Absolutely, But
what we can agree on, I think, is that black
women have historically been underrepresented in medical research.

Speaker 7 (23:32):
What do you say about that?

Speaker 8 (23:34):
And for the women who are hesitant to participate in
a study similar to this, what's your message to them?

Speaker 14 (23:43):
I would say that being hesitant, being nervous is absolutely normal.
I think a lot of times there's backlash and there's
pressure on us to give more, and I often feel like,
you know, black folks and other folks have already given
a lot, and so I would first kind of like

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honor that experience. That's very real, that's very real. And
sometimes it's not you know, what happened in Tuskegee or
what happened decades ago, but it's really how you were
treated at a doctor's visit two weeks ago, how your
grandmother was treated yesterday, right, And those are very impactful.
Sometimes it's not the doctor or the person trying to

(24:26):
recruit from research. Sometimes it's the receptionist who's trying to
check you in, who just felt unkind, it felt unwelcoming,
and that translates into whether somebody wants to participate in
research or someone's trying to recruit you first study and
you look at the brochure and you're like, these people
don't reflect me. How do I know they're going to
take me seriously, They're going to respect my privacy. I'm

(24:47):
not going to find out and to get an email.
In three months there's been a data breach and everything
that I shared is suddenly on the internet.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
So those are all very fair.

Speaker 14 (24:56):
I think in science we have not necessarily done our
work to prove ourselves trustworthy. We've just expected people to
trust us because of our training and because of the
things we know. But all of us are part of
communities and there's a social contract there. So I would say,
first off, how you feel is how you feel, and

(25:17):
that's completely fair. Second off, I would say, you know,
think about places that you do feel positive about, engaging
things that you do like, doing things that you are
interested in. Are there questions that you've ever had for
a doctor where they didn't really have an answer? Is
that a place where participating in research could be helpful

(25:40):
for you or your loved ones or future generations. Then
you can participate in something that has meaning for you
and for the people that you love and so maybe
it's voices where we're not you know, we're not doing
an an intervention, you know at this time, we're not
prescribing medications or not, you know, doing trials and stuff.

(26:00):
Right now, we're asking questions, and there are questions that
you know, someone can skip some of them make them uncomfortable,
but maybe sometimes taking a minute to think about, you know,
what are some of the things that I've experienced in life,
What are some of the choices that I've made or
choices that have been made for me, and how might
that impact my health? And are there ways to improve
my health or help people that I love not experience

(26:24):
the same things that I've experienced. I think is incredibly valuable.
And I say that as a scientist, but also as
a cancer survivor.

Speaker 8 (26:33):
Now we know that, and you spoke about medical mistrust
in the black community. What protections and values are built
into the study to ensure that participants are respected and
protected to your.

Speaker 14 (26:44):
Point, yes, So for research now, there are institutional review boards,
which means that it's an external group from the research
team where they evaluate the project to make sure that
it is ethical, that it holds to all legal standards,
and that there are ways to protect any other participants

(27:06):
from being taken advantage of being manipulated, being monetized, and
so as part of that process, that's a part of voices.
So people have the right to withdraw anytime they decide
they don't want to do it. They can skip questions
that make them uncomfortable, they can reach out to the
study team. Any kind of compensation for any additional data

(27:29):
collection is not allowed to be coercive, which means it
can't be such a high amount that it's hard to
say no to, you know, And I think those are
important parts. There's also a variety, like multiple ways of
protecting people's data, and it has to be up to
a standard like metalcore records. So it's not that anybody

(27:51):
could walk in the building and just like log on
open a computer and see your information. So there are
multiple layers, and they're also rule about who can see
the information once it's collected. So like I'm part of
the study, if I wanted to do an analysis on
the data, I have to go through a similar process.

(28:11):
I can't see anyone's individual level data just because I'm
part of the scientific advisory board. And that also helps
protect people's information.

Speaker 8 (28:20):
Oh yeah, we love that. We because you know, you
know us, we like no, no, that's what's going to
happening with my stuff, right.

Speaker 14 (28:27):
I know, especially like one of the one of the
sub projects collects blood samples, and I'm iffy about what
people store my blood and do my blood, you know
what I mean. But that's why there are these informed
consent documents where someone can see exactly what the team
is and is not allowed to do, and anytime they
have questions or feel like, well, I don't know how

(28:49):
I feel about it being used in a certain way,
they can contact the team or even contact the institutional
review board and say, you know, I don't I don't
understand this, or I don't agree with this, I don't
want my sample to be used anymore, or I don't
want it shared with certain people, and you can have
that conversation. In the past, the federal government, the National

(29:12):
Institutes of Health, gave us the option of letting people
restrict how much of their data was shared, and nowadays
of open data and artificial intelligence machine learning, that's less
of an option for investigators. So that's also something for people.

Speaker 6 (29:29):
To have in mind.

Speaker 14 (29:30):
There are some kind of federal rules about some data sharing,
so that's also outlined in those documents, so people can
feel confident about what they are and are not agreeing to,
and they can also ask for more explanation from the
study team.

Speaker 8 (29:48):
I'm Morgan Would on the Black Information Network and we're
speaking with doctor Tracy Bethey about the American Cancer Society
Study Voices of Black Women. Now, what would you say
ACS's Voices of Black Women means for cancer prevention, treatment,
and overall survival.

Speaker 14 (30:08):
I am probably a little over optimistic, but I'm really
I'm really hoping it's a game changer. I worked for
several years on the Black Women's Health Study, which is
a long long standing cohort of black women that recruited
nineteen ninety five, and I feel like so much of
the work that was done in that study really was

(30:28):
a game changer for research into Black women's health. Things
that were similar and things that were different from other groups,
as well as, you know, ways to engage Black women
and have women excited about contributing to improving their own
health and the health of their loved ones for multiple decades.
Because that study is still going on, and so it's

(30:51):
my hope that with Voices of black women starting recruitment now.
The life is very different now than it was been
in nineteen ninety two thousand and so we need to
learn very kind of different things. Right, How are people
engaging with social media? People are much more aware now
of colorism, the expectations of how someone should be treated,

(31:15):
what's normal, what's not normal, How people cope is different
with younger groups of women.

Speaker 6 (31:23):
Even our lifestyles.

Speaker 14 (31:24):
When people get married, if they get married, do they
have children, do they identify as a sexual and gender minority?
How do they live and do they feel welcome? Is
their found community? What are the chemicals people are exposed to,
what are the products we're using? Those things have changed,
and so being able to do this study at this time,

(31:46):
I think gives us an amazing opportunity to learn as
well as to implement prevention strategies for what we're learning,
so we can hopefully decrease risk of cancer and especially
cancers among younger women.

Speaker 6 (32:01):
In our community.

Speaker 8 (32:02):
Absolutely love that you talked about the study beyond the
biology of it. You know, more than the genetics, like
you talked about the stress the environment, and now let's
touch on access to care. Why is this overall broader
lens important when it comes to understanding cancer risk in
black women.

Speaker 14 (32:24):
I think access to care is a complicated idea. Right,
So it seems pretty easy, right, you get insurance, hopefully
you have access somewhere insurance, and you go to the
doctor and then you get treated. But in reality, we
all know there's a lot more calculation going on into this.
You know, oftentimes insurance is attached to having a job.

(32:46):
So hopefully your job has an option where you can
afford the copay, or you can afford the deductible, or
you can afford the monthly amount to be taken out
of your track.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
And then that means.

Speaker 14 (32:58):
The job decides what what are the options of coverage? Right,
If you're not working and you have a public system,
then someone else decides, and that means that someone If
you want care, you have to be able to go
somewhere that will accept your care, regardless of what that is.
That means you have to be able to get to

(33:20):
somewhere that provides care. Get to somewhere where you can
pick up a medication, get to somewhere where you can
be screened for cancer and receive your results. Get to
somewhere where there's counseling. Even with telehealth, not everyone can
use telehealth. It means you have to have a smartphone
or a laptop or something some device with a camera,

(33:42):
with a microphone, you have to have reliable internet access,
and that's not true for everyone. And it also means
that if you're working, you can actually take off for
long enough for a job to have an appointment or
to travel to an appointment because they're during work hours.
Even if you're full time caregiver, that means there has

(34:02):
to be a gap of time where someone else can
provide care. And so it seems like access to care
is yes, insurance, or yes there is a clinic in
your neighborhood, or yes there's a hospital or a cancer
center within an hour's drive, But in reality, it's so
much more than that in the lived experience, and so
being able to ask in voices about different pieces of

(34:27):
your life, about your stressors, about your needs, giving people
the opportunity to share more than just a survey question,
but even how they're experiencing life, whether it's to write
it in or to have a conversation, helps us understand
more of those pieces and then helps us think about

(34:47):
what do we need for better health. Is it something
for an individual person, is it something for a health system?
Is it something for a county the country? How can
we help? Oftentimes the reality of people's lived experience is
not necessarily enough to move the needle when it comes

(35:08):
to insurance policies and companies and governments. But it's the data,
and so I mean, really, we're really trying to get
both so we can help people and also think about
impacting more broadly.

Speaker 8 (35:21):
I love that you're mentioning, you know, the systemic issues
that are associated with black women and healthcare. You know
how you said it's not just about getting insurance and
going to the doctor, although we wish it was that easy.
You know, there's racism and there's housing, there's health, you know,
lack of maybe quality care, access to quality cares, the environment,

(35:42):
there's stresses around that as well. But you mentioned the data,
and we know numbers don't lie. So here in the
DC area DC in Baltimore region, there's already about four
hundred Black women who have signed up to be a
part and participate in this study. What do you say
that level of part anticipation says about our community? Is
it a good number? Do we need to be shooting

(36:05):
for way more than this. Where are we.

Speaker 7 (36:07):
At with that?

Speaker 14 (36:09):
I would say yes, and I think that every additional
person is a blessing. And I would also encourage us
to keep reaching. Voices aims to enroll at least one
hundred thousand black women across the United States, and I

(36:30):
would love for us to get to that number as
soon as possible, because that means we're that much closer
to asking some questions and answering them with data, and
that means more women that we're hearing from.

Speaker 6 (36:42):
So but I also think so often people who.

Speaker 14 (36:46):
Are doing research will say it's really hard to recruit
certain communities or people.

Speaker 6 (36:51):
Certain groups of people aren't interested in research.

Speaker 14 (36:54):
And I would argue that, you know, most communities people
love stories. Every community, every society have their own way
of sharing information in a way that connects. When we
do that, people respond. When you speak someone's language, then
they can tell you whether or not they're interested. But
if you're not speaking their language, it's not their fault.

(37:16):
It's a choice that you're making. It's an investment you're
choosing not to make in some cases. And I say
that because I sometimes get stuck and do the same thing,
like I don't know why I'm struggling to recruit and
having to take a step back and be like, wait
a minute, where are the people that I'm looking for?
What's important to them? What am I saying? What are
they hearing me say? Is a huge, huge thing, And

(37:39):
I'm sure you're familiar with that being in the media.
That's a normal approach in a lot of fields, and
we forget that when we're doing science and medical care.
Although there's some fantastic folks working on policy and health communications,
I think oftentimes for recruiting into studies, we forget that
part unless you're working with the community outreach and engagement

(38:02):
type of team. So I would say, it's fantastic, and
let's do more, and let's think about how do we
share important ideas with other people so they can decide. Well,
maybe maybe they don't want to participate, but maybe they
know somebody who might want to participate, or maybe they
want to encourage somebody to keep an eye on what

(38:24):
we find because it.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
Might be useful for them in the future.

Speaker 8 (38:27):
Before I let you go, what's one takeaway that you
hope black women would take away from this conversation, Whether
it's about screening, asking questions, participating in research that could
make a real difference in her life, her daughter's life, her.

Speaker 7 (38:42):
Auntie's life, grandma's life.

Speaker 8 (38:44):
Something that is like you got we got to know
this is this is one of our takeaways that we
really have to know.

Speaker 7 (38:50):
What would you say?

Speaker 14 (38:52):
I would say? Ask questions. Keep asking questions until something
makes sense to you.

Speaker 6 (38:59):
Do not worry about the.

Speaker 14 (39:02):
Clinical team or the researchers thinking you're annoying or you're
difficult to let them because your health is more important.
You don't have to be you don't have to be
friends with everybody, but you do have to take good
care of you because if you aren't well, then you
can't do all the things that are important to you.

(39:22):
And those people may be very well meaning, they may
have a huge workflow and stuff, but that's their responsibility.
Don't do their work for them, because you have to
do your work for you. And that's incredibly critical whether
you participate in science or scientific research or not. Keep
asking questions and get engaged in science. That's another way

(39:45):
to ask questions. You don't have to be a participant
in a study, but you can learn about what are
the studies that are going on in your community, in
your neighborhood that your family might be eligible for, because
maybe they need to hear your voice telling them that
this might not be a good fit for our community,
or maybe we don't want those side effects aren't okay

(40:05):
for my children, And that can also help us do
better and help people understand that we need to work
on being trustworthy as scientists before we expect people to
trust us with the truth of their lived experiences and
you know, their questionnaires and their blood samples and all
those sorts of things.

Speaker 6 (40:25):
We need to really work together.

Speaker 7 (40:27):
Absolutely.

Speaker 8 (40:28):
And is there anything that I didn't touch on that
you want to touch on.

Speaker 14 (40:34):
I think I would just say anyone who is interested
in the Voices study can look it up online for
more information.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
So that's uh.

Speaker 14 (40:46):
The study is still recruiting all across the United States
and they can find information at Voices dot cancer dot
org whether they're curious or want to enroll. Either way,
it great to have more people learn about it, chat
about it, and celebrate really all the great things that

(41:07):
there are about black women and black women's health to
build on amazing.

Speaker 8 (41:11):
We've been speaking with doctor Tracy Buttay with Georgetown's Lombardi
Cancer Center and the American Cancer Society's Voices of Black
Women's Study, where she already mentioned that enrollment is ongoing.
More information is available through the American Cancer Society.

Speaker 7 (41:26):
Can you give us that website one more time?

Speaker 6 (41:28):
Yes, Voices dot cancer dot org.

Speaker 8 (41:32):
Thank you so much, doctor Tracy. Butthay, we look forward
to speaking to you again about this.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
I'm looking forward to it too. This is a good time.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (41:41):
I'm Morgan Would on the Black Information Network.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Thank you, Morgan and doctor Tracy. For more information, visit
Voices dot cancer dot org. Each week, VIN podcast hosts
rams Us job q Ward invite members from the VIN
News team to join them for spirited discussion on their
new podcast of them called Q's Corner, where host q
Ward tackles a trending topic in the news and breaks

(42:05):
it down from all angles. Let's hear this week's discussion
featuring Ramsay's Jaw, q Ward and bi In News anchor
and Nicole Deal.

Speaker 15 (42:13):
Now it is time to head over to Q's Corner.
So cute, take it away.

Speaker 16 (42:17):
So Nicole in your home state, there is a very
interesting legal case that's going on right now that it's
caught the attention of several high profile rap artists. The
case centers around the use of rap lyrics as evidence
that we're used to help prosecutors land a conviction against
the black man who is now on death row. Ramses

(42:37):
talk about something being in our wheelhouse. We have discussed
how problematic this is before. We had a pretty semi
viral moment on our YouTube. It's been a couple of
years now, believe it or not, talking about Kendrick Lamar
and Drake, and when Drake sued Kendrick Lamar in the

(42:59):
wake of that battle, so many people were standing up
for him because they presented is as rap artists going.

Speaker 11 (43:06):
Against the machine.

Speaker 16 (43:08):
In his legal case, he presented Kendrick's lyrics as evidence
to why his suits should move forward, and we immediately
called out how slippery or slope that is, because it
is intentionally hyperbolic. When you're rapping, it is artistic expression

(43:29):
and creativity in the same way that film writers and
playwrights make movies and plays about things that happen, and
they are not held criminally liable by their artistic expression.
The reason why you target rap is because the very
obvious reason, the most successful and most visible people in

(43:49):
the genre are black. And if we're going to weaponize
art to criminalize people, let's go to the genre that's
ruled by the people who we'd most like to see
in prison anyway. So this young man on death row,
I think Travis Scott, Killer, Mike Ti, other artists spoke

(44:09):
out and you know, in protest of what's happening to
this young man, James Garfield broad Next is his name,
and on death row. And it's also important to point
out ramses they removed all the black people from the jury,
Like how straightforwardly and obviously racist are we being here?

(44:33):
So we can try our best to again stay neutral,
or we can call out things that are obviously and
straightforwardly targeted against black people.

Speaker 11 (44:45):
And this is another one of those cases.

Speaker 16 (44:48):
So the frustration that I'm sure those artists feel, because
slippery slope is a term that we keep using, where
does that stop? Do we retroactively start going through albums
and listening to lyrics and building cases based.

Speaker 11 (45:02):
Upon that, Like, where does this stop? We're doing this
to what end?

Speaker 16 (45:06):
And because there are no safety barriers, no guardrails, no
no infrastructure and protection of this. Once you allow this,
you set legal precedent. Yeah, and in your imagination, Rams,
where would it.

Speaker 11 (45:19):
Go from here?

Speaker 15 (45:20):
Like you said, it's just a matter of letting them decide.
If we let them start, you know, they'll they'll be
the ones to tell us I mean by that, by
this metric, by this measure, Arnold Swartzenegger and John Claude
Van Dam and Sylvester Stallone and Bruce Willis and the
Rock and Vin Diesel and and and they're all murderers

(45:43):
based on this interpretation.

Speaker 7 (45:45):
We saw artistic expression, we saw them do it.

Speaker 15 (45:48):
Yeah, exactly. So I'm with you, I'm with Travis Scott.
I'm with killing Mike. Of course, I like killing Mike.

Speaker 8 (45:55):
Uh.

Speaker 15 (45:55):
And you know, people making art about the reality in
which they live is so thing that people do. To
use that against them as a personal reflection of their
character and their spirit, I think is something that this
country can justify doing against black people. But again, you
would never see people making the same argument against a
normal towards Enegger, you know, the Rock or whoever else.

Speaker 17 (46:17):
Right, Nicole, I think this is what the kids nowadays
call gas lighting. I could be wrong, because I'm all
but using your own artistic song lyrics against you, you know.
I think it falls under the gas lighting umbrella. Using
rap lyrics in court to convict any person, to me

(46:40):
is rooted in.

Speaker 6 (46:41):
Prejudice, whether that prejudice is.

Speaker 17 (46:45):
Known or unknown. Things like this reinforce stereotypes that are
dangerous for artists and for blacks, and in this particular instance,
it resulted in a deathse Hello, we don't really know
how big of a part it played, but we do

(47:06):
know that forty pages of his work was given to
the jury, and I think they asked for it twice
if I'm not mistaken to review, So representation matters. This
act by the prosecution plays into a racist trope about
black people and rap music that only produces more bias

(47:27):
and more racism.

Speaker 6 (47:29):
So if I'm in court and I.

Speaker 17 (47:31):
Plead the fifth in a courtroom, I don't have to
testify against myself. So what's the difference if the prosecutors
use my own lyrics against me?

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Thank you, Ramses, Qward and Nicole. To hear more of
QS Corner on the daily QR Code podcast, visit binus
dot com and click on the link for the QR Code.
Doug Davis continues his converse sation with a black woman
entrepreneur who teaches black business owners and entrepreneurs the secrets
behind game debt free capital.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
A Thanks Mike.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Doug Davis here with another segment of Your Black Business
and today we continue our conversation from this past Friday
segment on BII News This Hour with grant guru Ja
Quenta coach k Prim who cracked a five hundred billion
dollar grant code after Wells Fargo fired her for sharing secrets.
Welcome back to the Black Information Network System and Your
Black Business. We left off with you explaining that many

(48:31):
black entrepreneurs are not aware that grants are also available
for for profit businesses, not just nonprofits, and that they
don't always have to hire a grant writer to tap
into some of this money.

Speaker 11 (48:43):
Right.

Speaker 18 (48:44):
Hiring a grant writer, I tell people, is something that
you know as you grow your business, and as you
are profitable in your business, maybe that's a conversation that
you can revisit later.

Speaker 19 (48:54):
But entrepreneurs should not hire a grant writer.

Speaker 18 (48:56):
We have community members that have received you know, six
figure and seven figures and grants, and none of.

Speaker 19 (49:01):
Them are hiring grant writers.

Speaker 18 (49:03):
They're learning this skill and strategy and they're learning how
to apply it into their business, and they're incorporating into
their business if daily, and they're getting access to this money.

Speaker 19 (49:12):
So untapped corporations for sure have money out there. You know,
when we think about corporations.

Speaker 18 (49:18):
Starbucks has ten million dollars, Chick fil A right now
has over six million dollars, and they're looking for people
that are just being an inspiration lay on throughout the year.
Progressive will have a grant where they're giving entrepreneurs fifty
thousand dollars to go purchase a commercial vehicle. And then
you're a city in your state, they have money right

(49:39):
there in your back door.

Speaker 13 (49:40):
I'll use it.

Speaker 18 (49:41):
Atlanta for an example, Alanta has a commercial Property Improvement
grant where they were giving entrepreneurs twenty five to fifty
thousand dollars to go get a commercial property and they're
giving them the money to go rehab the space to
make it look good because Atlanta wants to look beautiful
and they want to be able to brag about entrepreneurs
and they're right now.

Speaker 19 (49:58):
They have a Small.

Speaker 18 (49:59):
Business Marketing Grant, which is a five thousand dollars grants
who help entrepreneurs locally market their business to help them
elevate and grow.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
So so you're c that's I mean, I just hate
to cut you off, but I mean what you're saying
right now is just so impactful. It's just like it's
blowing my mind. But let me ask you this. When
we try to reach out to some of these corporate companies,
you know, some folks say, oh, man, you know I
don't have a relationship.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
With P and T.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
You know if I send them something, you know they're
not going to recognize you know, me at all.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
What would you say in response to that?

Speaker 19 (50:33):
There are some people that don't like when I say this,
but I'm just.

Speaker 18 (50:35):
Going to be completely transparent. So a couple of years ago,
our last year, for example, Black History Month, I was
able to do highlight grants, one grant every day that
was for minority entrepreneurs. And these were companies like CD
Trends and Comcasts that we're looking for entrepreneurs in the

(50:56):
month of February to give money and funding to. This year,
twenty twenty six, I couldn't highlight one grand So the
way I always educate people and tell people is one
you have to you have to leave with your impact.
So when we leave with our impact, and we're going
to these companies even though we don't have a relationship
with them, even though maybe we're not the established business,

(51:17):
but there is something that we want to do with
our business and our brands.

Speaker 19 (51:21):
There's a reason behind our business.

Speaker 18 (51:23):
There's a problem that our business is going to solve
when we just need the money behind us to make
it happen. When we leave with that, that's what opens
up the door for conversations and encourages these people to
give you access to money and funding. For example, there
are foundation grants out there and there are a lot
of wealthy people that start foundations, and there's money that's
in these foundations that's just sitting there, and some of

(51:44):
these foundations are looking for people to give the money too.
There are several different ways that you can build and
establish a relationship. One of our community members build her
relationship with a company on LinkedIn just from establishing a
LinkedIn profile, posting about her business every single day, and
the connecting with somebody on LinkedIn and just having a
conversation saying, hey, can I just get five to ten

(52:05):
minutes of your time to explain to you what I'm
going to do with this money and why I need
this money for my business, and she walked away with
a thirty five thousand dollars print. So sometimes you have
to build those relationships. Another way to build city and
state relationships is going to your local medias, your talenthome,
your townhome, your townhall meetings. You're connecting with your chamber

(52:27):
of commerce. Because most of the time, the decision makers
and the people who can say, hey, I remember this
company or this nonprofit that said they needed money for
a youth development or they needed money for an upcoming
project that they have, they're going to remember you because
they're able to connect with you in person.

Speaker 19 (52:44):
So sometimes even as a new.

Speaker 18 (52:46):
Business or a new entrepreneur or maybe someone who hasn't
actually established those relationships, you have to get in the
room so that people know who you are. So if
they don't know you, they can't follow you. So they
have to know you so that they can give you
the money that you need for your business.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Oh man, that is so so powerful. I am sold.
How can I join? Where do I need to go
to learn? How I can tap into your knowledge? Coach
k yep So, I host.

Speaker 19 (53:12):
A free class every single Monday.

Speaker 18 (53:14):
I'm so dedicated to this information and getting it into
the hands of the entrepreneurs that need it for profit
or nonprofit. Every day, I host a free class. It's
called the Grant Mastery master Class. If you go to
my social media and you type free on any post,
I'm going to singular link senual link to join the
free class. I'm going to give you a free grant list,

(53:35):
and I'm going to enter you for winning a five
hundred dollars grant.

Speaker 19 (53:39):
That's my free class.

Speaker 18 (53:40):
I also do one thousand dollars grant giveaway every single
month because I want entrepreneurs to know that you can
do this.

Speaker 19 (53:46):
There are so many people who feel like, you know, oh, I.

Speaker 18 (53:48):
Never win anything, or I don't have time to apply
for grants because I'm a single mother, or I'm working
a full time job. So I created a grant so
I can encourage entrepreneurs to apply for it more so
I can told them what to do and encourage them
and help them through the process. It's called the Legacy Grant.
So if you're listening to this right now and you
could use one thousand dollars to start and grow your business,

(54:09):
go to themleegacygrant dot com and I'm going to support
you with possibly getting a thousand dollars for your business.
And then I'm on all social media platforms as it's
coachk it SS coach k supporting, educating, dropping grants and
helping entrepreneurs get that for your funding to start and
grow the business.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Blown away, I'm telling you, where's my applaud but not
it's somewhere here. I need to just give you so
many man, I mean, are you are really really blowing
my mind? You are a dynamic sister, an amazing spirit,
and you're a mom. What's it like running a seven
figure empire, dealing with childcare?

Speaker 3 (54:47):
You know, you're launching a book, you know, how do
you do it all? How do you balance it?

Speaker 19 (54:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (54:51):
So what's so exciting about being in my journey? And
the highlight of my journey right now is my daughters.

Speaker 19 (54:57):
I'm also an entrepreneur as well, and I didn't know
that early on.

Speaker 18 (55:00):
She was watching me so close that it would actually,
you know, spill into her. You know, our kids, they
don't we feel like they're not listening to us, but
they're watching us. And now she's an entrepreneur. She's actually
making six figures on TikTok at She just turned fifteen,
so she made six figures at fourteen years old on TikTok,
and she's teaching others and she's speaking in front of

(55:23):
a couple of weeks ago, she spoke to a thousand entrepreneur.
Adult entrepreneurs live virtually. So the highlight of where I
am right now is seeing my baby do it, but
also the impact that I'm making in my community to
be able to show an entrepreneur how to get money
for their business. And that's the balance for me. I'm
able to do it with my baby, you know, with

(55:45):
my daughter. She's on this journey with me.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Yeah, that is That is beautiful.

Speaker 17 (55:48):
Man.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
What's one big piece of advice that you could give
anyone listening right now dreaming of, you know, starting their
own career, you know, whether it's let's say, you know,
hair salon, what's the first step to grant freedom? And
what kind of advice again would you give them?

Speaker 11 (56:01):
I think the.

Speaker 18 (56:02):
Biggest thing is just shifting your mindset that this isn't
for you.

Speaker 19 (56:06):
So oftentimes we hear about grants and we brush it off.

Speaker 18 (56:09):
In full transparency, I was that person I heard about
grants long before I actually need them. Needed them, and
I didn't start applying it til my back was against
the wall. So I think the biggest thing is just
shifting your mindset that you can't do this or that
you don't need this money. There are some people who
feel like because there are six figure on six figure
business owner a seven figure business owner, that they don't
need grants, and there's also a group of people that

(56:31):
feel like they can't do it. So no matter where
you are in your journey, I want you to understand
that grants.

Speaker 19 (56:35):
Are for you.

Speaker 17 (56:36):
Now.

Speaker 18 (56:36):
If you want to know where to find these grants,
there's a website called grant find got io that has
thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars and it updates
every single month with new grants and new opportunities. And
you can use chat you bet and AI to be
your grant writer to help you write grants for your business,
so you can you know, if you feel like you
don't have time, you can go to chat you bet

(56:57):
and say, act that's my grant writer and help me
apply for this grant and give it the grant that
you want to apply for and it will do the
work for you. So I think the biggest thing is
shifting your mindset understanding that no matter where you are
in your journey, there's a grant out there for you,
and just take.

Speaker 19 (57:11):
Action on my opportunity.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Coach K, I am ready to take on the world.
You are a motivational speaker as well. I'm serious, girl.
You have got me really, really fired up, and I'm
sure everyone listening is fired up as well. How can
folks reach you on social media and how can.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
We follow you?

Speaker 19 (57:26):
Yep, all social media platforms.

Speaker 18 (57:27):
It's it ss Coach K, it s s Coach K
on all social media platforms. If you're listening to this
right now and you are ready to go to the
next level and get access to get free money for
your business, no credit check, you never have to repay it.

Speaker 19 (57:42):
Follow me on social media.

Speaker 18 (57:43):
I drop grants every single day that you can go
apply for it, and then I support you.

Speaker 19 (57:47):
With the client as well.

Speaker 15 (57:49):
Coach K.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
I appreciate you, man.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
You are such blessing to this world, such blessing to
our community. Keep doing your thing and just quickly, what's next.

Speaker 18 (57:56):
I am hosting a conference where I'm going to have
about seven hundred entrepreneurs in the room.

Speaker 19 (58:01):
It's a live conference. We do have a virtual option
as well.

Speaker 18 (58:05):
We're giving out over fifteen thousand dollars in grants live,
So somebody's gonna walk away with a five thousand dollars grant,
another person's gonna walk away with the ten thousand dollars grant.
We're walking away with grant proposals, completed grant applications. It's
not just a conference, it's a workshop style, So we're
just supporting entrepreneurs live on the spot with actually you know,
going in to business.

Speaker 19 (58:26):
And the next thing is just continuing to grow my community.

Speaker 18 (58:30):
I am so committed to helping entrepreneurs get access to
this information.

Speaker 19 (58:34):
We are going all in with.

Speaker 18 (58:36):
Making this community great and supporting entrepreneurs. So that's what's
next for Coach K.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Thanks Doug and Coach K. Follow her on all social
media platforms at its Coach K. That's our show for
this week. For more on these stories, listen to the
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to take a moment again this week to recognize Women's
History Month, celebrating every March to honor the achievements, strength,
and contributions of women throughout history and in our communities. Today,
I'm Mike Island. Have a great Sunday, and we'll see
you next week with a new episode of The Black
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