Talking Football, Basketball & Horseracing

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, all right, all right, we're back here in
Uh bring the juice set a word.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Detroit version of it. I'm here right now with mo
Aka Maurice Norse.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Uh that with it, man.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Bro, welcome to bring the juice.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Hay to be here.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
We're out here in the hotel room because this is
all we can make happen today.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
I've been joining two nice rogues. Yeah, I'll presure of
taking mine home.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
I might take it. I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
It's kind of that we should talk to me about.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Let's let's let's get let's get into the obvious, right,
finished with the dogs, ended up in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Tell me about the experience of going to declare to
the NFL in your path that led.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
You to Detroit.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Uh, first off, is just a blessing in general to
be at this level, you know.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
But the journey it was, it was, it was. It
was a nice journey. You know.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
After you play the last game, you get ready for
pro day and Pro Day, and my my pro day
in particular, teams wanted to see how fast was, you know?
So I played two hundred pounds like all season and
all my years at Fresnel State. I trained and said
like they wanted me to cut down and one eighty
sacond run faster in the forty eight. I went to

(01:13):
two hundred one eighty in about what three months?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
So that was that was like a little tough, little grind,
but you know I did it. Day was cool.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
I did it at AP Club. Dave shout out AP.
But yeah, they got me right. So I killed the
pro day man killed it. Talked to a lot of teams.
I had a lot of teams that I interacted with
throughout the whole process. You know, Detroit showed me the
most love, took me to dinner, Uh, Scout took me
to dinner and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Where they take you.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
They took me to old spaghetti factory.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Oh that was my first time eating there. I always
drove past it and I've never ate there. There's one
at Fresno State, Yeah, right by that's what they took me. Yeah,
that's top two spaghetti. I loved spaghetti too, and that's
top two for so my mom's just one for so that.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
One right there.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
So they treated you right.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
They treated me right.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
But the draft comes around.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Draft them around. You know, we're staying in contact as around,
you know, go through or whatever. And then uh, they
called me after the draft, and then they called me
after the draft.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
My coach called me.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
We had a long conversation, great conversation, and at the
end I was like, let's do it. Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. So I verbally dan there said I
wanted to go there. Then my agent called me. He's like,
I think we're gonna roll with Detroit. I said, I
think that's a good fit for me too. So signed
with Detroit. Get out here at first rookie mini camp,
you know, yeah, get the little helmet and got my

(02:38):
little Yeah, got my little.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Welcome to the league, the League, Thank you Christmas.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Looking good walking through their CJ golf and all the
was't like, boy, we're here now, Like I'm on a
little locker and everything.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
I see the number, I said, thirty nine. Well they're crazy,
I said, damn. I had forty three at Forresno State
first year.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
They give me thirty nine here. It's just the first
year something with these numbers, man, But yeah, gotta earn them,
gotta earn them. I rocked it out though not looked wrong.
It was cool, you know what I'm saying. I think
I swagged it out a little bit, especially with the
Dreds hanging. My still got cut along. Yeah, but uh
some time, come on now, But dud, that was smooth
working Mini camp killed it.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
OTA's smooth killed it. Learning to playbook and all that
training camp. Man, I went stupid, you know what I'm saying.
I did my thing training camp, worked my way up
the ladder, and then worked our way to joint practice
New York Man. First joint practice was out there balling
Man started my first, my first preseason game. Yeah at safety.

(03:39):
I never played safety before.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Minds, you never played safety before in life, yet you're
playing it in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yeah, I never played safety.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Was there a little nerves of like, hey, I'm not
used to this?

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Oh yeah, definitely.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
It was like a especially like OTA's then you got
like that month off you come back for training camp.
When I got down with OTAs, I was like, okay,
like I really gotta learn how to move like it's
safety because I'm moving as a nickel like a corner
a little bit like it's a different type of techniques,
you know.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
So I went in. I went back to Sacramento.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
My trainer's at Shotty Downs, and he really molded me.
And you know what I'm saying, it's my little safety work
that I've been doing. So I feel like I came
back to training camp really as a safety.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Would you say, I remember you mentioned in earlier just
now the playbook itself. Yeah, is it different than a
playbook you've learned in the past. Is there a different
way you go about it?

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Honestly, it's it's not that different.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Cause at first on State we had coach Coach Coil
was the league and uh coach in the league for
like seventeen years, you know, so we running the NFL stuff.
It's just different names, are different people moving here. So
like when I came in here, I'm oh, we run that,
But that's the same as this. It's just a different cause, yes,
and now it's just really learning the terminology of things
and learning how the rotations fitting, what the checks to

(04:54):
make with him and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
You mentioned the preseason game, Yeah, first time shooting up
in the league.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, Oh man, I don't even think. I almost didn't
even go to sleep, to be honest, I had to
force myself to go to sleep, but I took like
four cherry juices, knocked out, woke up in the morning.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
People don't know about that cherry juice style.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Cherry juice put you to sleep. If y'all ain't know
cherry juice, get doing that for your body too. But
woke up, man, put my playlist on. I'm listening to
what's your playlist? But the number one song that I
replay a lot, Loop A Fiasco Superstar Loop a Fiasco.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
I heard that one in a minute.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yeah that's get you know why, because you feel me
when you go out there, like you just see the
lights and you just hear the people. And it was
it was packed for real and for first precinct like
it was packed Detroit, like the fans show love so
like you gonna hear them, you're gonna feel them, you know.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
So you feel the energy. And I'm out there.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
I go out there in my first drive and my
boy me and Tarian that's my dog. We had to
close right, so me and tarry On we walk up
to each other. We shut shake hands that but I'm like, bro,
we're really here, like we have a moment like before
the game started, like man, what so then we get
into the game and I was just playing football.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Right, all the lights are it's all that it's quiet now,
but you know that you played the series before.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
It was a surreal feeling. Man, that's a great feeling.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
I know that a lot of people know this, but
there's joint practices in the league. You had something go viral,
you boomsticking somebody. Yeah, tell me about the stop hit specifically,
and then did you expect to be popping off on
Twitter like that?

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Nah, I ain't gonna lie. I didn't. I didn't know
it was gonna go crazy, Like how I did.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
I was just playing football, you know, I'm at Nickel.
I met Nikkel we in the Cover two Emotion out.
So but every time I played Cover two, like I'm
so good at it, Like I can disguise it as man,
make it look like man, how I'm guarding my man.
And I peeped running back come out, so like I've
done that play so many times at President.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
So like it was just easy played with me. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
I see him go, I'm guarding him outside shaved, I'm
outside leverage, which I should be inside, but like I'm
just playing with the quarterback for real. I see the
running back leak out and then he threw it and
I was like cuing, might as well make a statement,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but it just happened.
And then helmet came off and I was.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Like, oh, I wasn't trying to hit him down hard.
I was trying to love taping for real. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
And then Twitter popping off.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Ye, I was a lot. I was like a.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Little fang, but.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Uh it was cool. You know what I'm saying. My coaches,
My coaches got on me by it, but they like
how they're like my aggressiveness, you know, so.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Right end of the day, defensive guard.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, guard to come downhill, end of the day.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
That's what ball is about.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
That's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, smacksim runner.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
You're mentioned in the thirty nine. It makes me think,
what's the most dooky number you could be given.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
As a DV As A I said, I it's like,
if it's anything like in the fifties as a dB.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
It's disgusting.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, it's discussing like.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I don't think they could even do fifties, fifties or sixties.
I don't think you could do or seven or like.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
But I've seen a dB wear a number at ninety
something before.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yes, skilled players. Now, I don't know what the rules
are anymore, but like back in the day, skill players.
San Diego State's wide receivers us store like ninety one and.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
There if a dB came out, they were like ninety
something on ninety seven, Like they're going at him every
play all day.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, that's horrible.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Wasn't the quarterback in Michigan he used to rock what
ninety eight?

Speaker 3 (08:46):
That's crazy?

Speaker 2 (08:47):
John Robinson.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Did. Well, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I don't know, Bro, I don't know. That's crazy. So
in all that process, you also have gotten a taste
of the business side of the league. Yeah, tell me
about that.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
I mean, shoot, and the it get tricky, Yeah, it
get tricky when it comes to like injuries in this business.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
You know what I'm saying. It's football. But at the
end of the day, it's football at the highest level,
the national level, so they gotta do what's best for
the organization and things like that.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
So I definitely have experienced a little bit of it.
But I'm still kind of learning too. You're so agree that, Yeah,
this is my first time, so I'm kind of learning
as I'm going through the process of it.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
At the same time. But you know, we're gonna we're
gonna see how it happens and let the cars play.
They'll play out.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
What about I know you're a basketball man. Yeah, you
were telling me a last side you didn't play football
tool later in your life. Yeah, tell me about your
basketball career and how it turned into a football career.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
I was really like a baby Kyrie. I was really
a baby Westbrook for real. And then I start watching Kyrie.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
You were a baby Westbrook.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
I'm telling you you're like that. I'm like that, I
need to see we need to see some mixtape or
something on YouTube. CALLI hoops, man, I'm telling you I'm wrong.
Twenty five points average I gave. I got twenty five
points that game, and they came Kelly hoops.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, coming raw viral raw. But I don't know, man,
basketball has just been my love since I was a kid.
That's definitely like my first love. Like if you ask
my mom's like, when I got my first basketball courts,
it was a little raggedy, beat up thing. It wasn't
even brand new. We bought it on a yard seal. Yeah, man,
I was out there way past the street lights. She

(10:30):
had to tell me to come in. I'd be out there, rain, heat, snow,
my two little basketballs in a plastic bag.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
I promise you.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
I feel like we're filming like a thirty for thirty
for Michael Jordan.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
I'm telling you, bro, it held one time, it held
one time for Presne snow. It was no snow. That
was just like dramatic. I get it, I get it,
but you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
It tailed one time in Presno and I was out there.
I promise you, But yeah, I just I don't know.
I just learned like that motivation in the grind with basketball,
I just really put them all into it. So I
played all my years. My junior year crap and most
we was telling me to come play. I was like, Ah,
we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Win championship this year. I can't. I can't get hurt.
Man went to the championship and basketball the year we lost,
we lost to who do we lose to? Selma? We
lost to Selma. They had when I had POLASI and
the big Stroud brothers. We had that.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
And then my senior year already knew he was going
back to the championship again. So like, uh, well we
had just moved up Division one for football. Most we
just graduated, so it was me and Crop. It was
my last year of crap. Crop was like, come play.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
I was like, all right, man, let's do it. So
I go out there.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
First touchdown, I break the record for the longest touchdown
in our school history. I had like four or five picks,
smack a couple of people. I said, I ain't gonna
lie kind of like this. It's kind of fun. You
can't hit people in basketball, so I'm like, it's kind
of fun for saying I stopped growing.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
I was like seventeen, I'm like five eleven six feet.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
The writing was on the wall.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Yeah, right, Yeah, what I'm saying right was on the wall.
And basketballs way more. It's way harder, way more politics
to try to get to the NBA. So I figured,
I'm good at this. Let's go see where it takes.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
You didn't play football until your buddies aka Aaron Roseby
and Jaalen Crawford say, yo, mo, senior year, bro, you
might as well come and like play football. And you're
out here being like, but I'm young. I'm young, Russ, Bro,
I'm young, Russ. Let me hoop literally, let me go
be Chef Curry. Literally, I played Kobe mentality.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
I played football elementary school like the first two years
after that I had never played again. And then yeah,
I still tell them boys like today, like, man, I
appreciate you because I'm in the league now because y'all
kept telling me to come play football.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
What if Jalen Cropper and Mosby weren't like heyo, you
should come hide.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
And probably being overseas trying to hoop somewhere make it
to the lead.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
You'd be on the Shanghai Sharks right now, bro, hanging
out with freaking uh.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
I've been in China or some.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
In the Mexican basketball leagues.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Man, the boys they so they obviously since you didn't
have any film for sophomore junior year, you couldn't get
recruited or.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Anything like that.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
So you go hooper mode. Jalen Cropper, Aaron Moseby, let's
play ball. You hooped out in football all of a sudden.
How did you How'd you end up playing at the
next level that fast after one year of film?

Speaker 4 (13:37):
I don't know, man, it was just crazy. I talked
to some teens, but it was like D two's D threes.
I talked to friendment of state too, but they was like,
you only played one year, so like didn't show enough. Yeah,
it ain't show enough. So I was like, I'm gonna
go juco. It was a juco in Orange County. They
wanted me to play football and basketball. That's really why

(13:58):
I went out there, and I was like too quick
to get out of Fresne. So I went out there
to Orange County coach and Mason man expensive expensively. Hey,
I don't know what I was doing out there, but
it kind of taught me how to be a man, honestly. Like,
I went through a lot of trials there. So I'm
there playing football, basketball basketball. Coach was kind of like, uh,

(14:19):
he just made me not like like the game. He
knew I was the best player, but he had his
favorites and I didn't want to deal with this. So
I was like, yeah, I'm gonna just pick up the
cleats full time, honestly. So I picked up the cleats
full time. I hoop out my freshman year. First game
I go in.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
I was a backup.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
First game I go in, I had like three four PPU's.
I started the rest of the season hooping I'm talking
to teams. I was talking to Washington State. That was
like my biggest interests at the time. Second to last game, talking.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Smack to this team. They popping it, I'm popping in.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
I run across from the left side all the way
to the right to save a touchdown my leg swing
I tore my ac Yeah, damn, I'm like wow.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Second to last game.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
I was going crazy that year, So they told me
to sit out and have that option to like play
against I.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Ain't gonna be here for three three years at this juco.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
So I did my rehab, Like, I rehabbed and I
bounced back in five months, right right when uh summer
ball was gonna start.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
And my coach crazy story, I rehabbed in five months,
toy still.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
And you rehab back and you were going in five months?

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah. I pulled my stitches out on my own accident.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
How are you accidentally?

Speaker 3 (15:36):
That's my first like injury.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
So like I was just picking addic, pickanadic, pickingada, and
I ended up pulling them all out too early.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
But you know it heal, it healed. Yeah, everything's okay.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
But anyways, like.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
I'm five months, I'm sitting down there on the sideline,
like it's third day of practice, is it still Juco?

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah? Juco And he's like, my coaches, not let me
go out there. Man.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
My coach turned around. I said, I bet jumped out there,
won on wrap strafting. I said, I tell you I'm good.
After that, got ready for the season and played again.
I think I had a pay car two. I had
a good st of the year, but uh it was COVID.
COVID started popping off crazy. They wasn't picking up Juco

(16:19):
kids like that. It ended up getting a preferred walk
on to New Mexico State, and then you went.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
From Juco in La Yeah, to a preferred walking out
of New Mexico State Yeah, and lost cruises last cruise.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Man, that place is horrible.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
It's horrible. The cribby I lived in was just horrible.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
It's like, you know, like, yeah, that was top three
worst places I ever played.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Up And I was there for a minute. I was
going crazy out there, man.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
But I got out there, you know, and the coaches
like COVID, YadA YadA, get classes, got it, and you know,
get get registered to get like in the groove of things,
you know, and then we'll get you in in the summer,
so I'm in the classes for those three months, three
six months. However, long spring is summer come around and
he's like, oh, we can't get you into school, and

(17:04):
like send me the classes and transfer, YadA, YadA YadA,
go find some of us to play. Like I had
the message in my phone, my old phone, Like that's
all he said, go find some of.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Us to play. So I'm like, that's that's nutty. Yeah,
that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
When we played them and the Bowl game last year,
I thought I was gonna see him, but he's at
a different school or somewhere.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, so I was gonna talk Smack a little bit.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
He got fade waiting for him.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, definitely, Nuchael Sandwich, you definitely got a fake.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
So New Mexico you get this text like, yeah, you
gotta find another place to go.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
So now that's let's talk about your mindset at this point, man,
you you.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
Already you already had your basketball, You already played this
one year football, went to an expect your code, rehab
yourself after a twenty a cl so you really don't
like know what's gonna happen, and now you're down at
lost Crusades, New Mexico, trying to live out this dream.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Where's your head up, bro? I mean that's some trials.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah, even like there was a lot of Juco stuff
to that test in me too, Like yeah, it was
like six of us in the two bad like two
people in each room too in the living room, and
rent was like twenty seven and twenty eight hundred down there.
Yeah yeah, yeah, it was expensier. We had a food pantry,
like half this stuff in there.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
It was like expire. But like for me trying to
say bread.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, I really lived. I really lived at hard Juco life.
A lot of crazy stuff. I've heard Jucos just yeah,
it's no resources.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
It's it'll make you a man for shure, it'll make
your man for show.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
But THEMN you know, I get to all this cruises
that advance and I'm sitting in my crib.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
I didn't even buy it bad. I kept. I got
an air mattress.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
I got a TV that I paid like one hundred
and twenty five dollars for fifty five inches. I still
got it at the crib, not throwing that away. I
had an air mattress, me and my TV in my walls.
I'm sitting right there on the floor, leand up against
my air mattress. I'm like, damn one thing at that
and the other man. But like I believe in God,
you feel me. I'm a firm believer in God, and

(19:06):
I believe he gives you obstacles. You gonna put the
obstacles in the path, like he already pet set the
path for you know, you just clearing the obstacles. So
I always just clear the next obstacle, Clear the next obstacle,
clear the next optims, and then you gonna get the
you gonna get the prize or the war, you know,
all the things that he has for me. So I
was like I sat there for like a couple of hours,
like alright, now it's time to get up me to

(19:28):
find a way to clear the obstacle.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
You know. So called JD, called JD. That's my dog man.
Shout out JD. Shout out JD.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Big time man. Well he's a hell of a guy.
I'm like, you got a spot for me, Like they
just kick me to the curb. Basically, he's like we
got Juco camp tomorrow, come to the camp. So that's
what you could do and then we'll talk.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
You're in lost crusas you hit up JD THEMN you
they happen to have a Juju camp tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
The next day they happened to you and like so
I'm like, okay, that's a that's the that's a little
god right there. The other guess sign.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
I had just bought my first car, like on my own.
I paid a thousand dollars down for it. Dods Avengers,
little black thing. My guys know, they know about my
little die Advenger, my guys at present of estate man,
that little thing being with me through some stuff.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Fourteen hours drive, packed it up, hopped on the road.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Cat your your mattress. Fifty five minutes.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
I left the air mattress. I don't need I'm going
back home, baby, going back to the five nine. I
don't need that no more.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Fourteen hours, fourteen I didn't even stop.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Fourteen hours straight. What was that? What did you?

Speaker 1 (20:31):
What was going on in your mind in that fourteen
hour drive. That's a long time to suffer for.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
That's a long time. I said, I'm finna go to
this camp for the ball out. I'm finn to be
the standout. I'm finna get put on Scully, finna run it.
I'm finna play my last year, so I'm familiar to
the league. I was thinking all that I get to Arizona.
I think that's like seven hours or something. My car breakdown.
Oh in Arizona, boy, it was hot. I'm sitting in

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the car waiting on the tow truck.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
I'm like, I might die. Honestly, i might die out here.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
It's hot, like I ain't never it's hot in Fresno.
That's some different heat in Arizona, man, that's some different heat.
They fixed my car in like an hour and a half.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Two. I'm back on the road, man.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
That's the time to fix a car now, is it is? Luckily?

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Like Whey where my car broke down at there was
a mechanic shot like right there, and they was heck.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
A good another blessing by God.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
You know what I'm saying. It was heck.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
They fixed it up, paid it. I'm on the road,
eight seeds working good. I'm like, yeah, full blast boom.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
I get there to the camp, I get into it,
I get home, I get home, get home like four.
The camp is at eight.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
You get home at four in the morning.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yeah, camps at camp starts at eight, take a little
little four hour nap, show up to the camp, say
what's up to? JD introduced myself to everybody else, met
the coaches, and I was like, let's see what you
could do. But like, I'm just I'm just a natural
born leader.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
So I lead in the way.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
He for me first and every drill, leading all the drills,
bringing up huddling, killing it in the one on ones
and stuff, and JD bring me up to his office
after he was like, why should I give you this chance?

Speaker 3 (22:12):
I could just go get like a freshman or somebody else.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
You know what I'm saying that cause JD realized it
was gonna be difficult to get me into the school
because of my JUCO classes.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
And I was like, honestly, like I just need a chance.
You give me a chance. I'll show you like I'm
a batherer.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
I'm i'm'a do what it needs to be done, surpass everybody,
dominating anyone who needs to be dominant. Like all I
need is a chance, opportunity, right, He's like, alright, so
give me the chance, give me a chance. I was
in eligible twenty twenty one because I got into the
school so late like the whole process took too long,
so I was ineligible. So now sitting in the background,

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soaking it up, learning how to be a D one
athlete cause I'd never been here and next year they
gonna want me to be the guy, you know, So
I was kind of preparing myself for that twenty two
come around. Now it's time to act like I've been
here before, and I've ever been here. So I think
I did pretty well.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
That's a long gap between your Juco season that you
actually played and getting to actually play in a football
game after the New Mexico Trials ACL being ineligible.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
That is that three years two.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
It was like like one and a half.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Oh, it's a long time because I did two years Juco,
that one COVID in the six months, and then I
went to Fresno State. Then that year I had to
take off, so then I had my last two to
play right of my clock, I guess, so I earned
a SCALI earned a spot. I didn't start like the

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first two three games San Jose Stea game was at home,
I popped off and I became the full starter.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Since then hoped went to the championship, went hip. I
think I was like.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Nominated for like Newcomer some award or whatever. And then
now he twins tween three final season.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah, I get in. I already know what the goal is.
Changed my number.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
Man, I'm out the forty three, got the seven, feeling good,
looking good.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
My goal is get at.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Least two picks, get a get at least I was
really trying to run up the sacks more, get at
least four sacks, more than eight TFLs, and then just ball,
you know, I ended up with two picks, four point
five sacks, nine TFLs A couple a lot of people use, right,
and then yeah, that was my whole little journey.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Now Here you mentioned your faith in God and all that.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
When you have faced these trials, what do you think
is the biggest outlier that you've had to go through
so far that has propelled you in this journey that
you're in.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Now, you know, what's something?

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Obviously everything combines prepared you, but is there something specifically
when you're like that moment was the defining moment when
I was like I will never be lower than this,
Like I know I want to continue to elevate myself
because of it.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, Man, had a lot of those.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Juco. I was in Juco. We had stayed in this apartment.
It was about five six of us in this apartment.
That's kind of racist. Orange County custom as is kind
of racist, you know. So any something that happened with
one of my roommates checks or whatever, and that they

(25:44):
didn't bring it up to us. About six months later
and they said we had to pay all this back
pay or they gonna evict us like tomorrow type like
on some like they just didn't want us in their business.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
So like I was down, I was.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Working two jobs and going to school and playing football
like real Juco struggle man, and I'm I have we
got to try to find a way to come to
like eight ten bands, so we pay them and now
get evidied. So like I'm going to court houses, I'm
going to this place, going to that place, getting.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
All these loans, like just to get money to pay
for this. Like I'm being you don't even get it.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
You're just getting money giving it to them. You're not
You're not buying a car, you get anything out of it.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Like I've just dived into the whole real world like head.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
First, like in this Juco experience, and now I'm like
I was down low, cause like I was really like
the most maturest one out of everybody that was in
the crib.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
So I was handling it all and working the jobs
and doing all that.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
So that like I was laying down on this little bed,
had a little bed on the floor, laying down on
the bed, I was like, man, I never wanna feel
this feeling like what ever being this low again? Cause
I was low at that point, and then ever since then,
I just turned up even harder. Like I already had
the motivation like middle middle kid of five, my older
brothers in the woodchair, single mom, Like I already got

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all those but that just that feeling of that real
world taste, that that taste that just gave me more
fire to not go back to that.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Right.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff, man, A lot of
stories could be here all day for real.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
I mean suppressive man, it is.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
It's awesome to see how you've overcome all these obstacles
and coming off the fire on top.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
And in all ventures. What would you want to do
once once balls wrapped up?

Speaker 3 (27:29):
I mean, I got some things that I'm working on
once I once I get back into the into the position.
You know, once I get that money.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Back and get back playing, I want to eventually get
into real estate. I got some some lanes that I
get me into that. I'm I'm working on a little
truck and company. I'm opening up and then company. Yeah,
come on, a genius. And then I want to get
I want to get, you know, into some agriculture things,
investing into things like that so I can right the
down the road. You know, I had some pipeline, so

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I got a lot of things from uh. I got
in my notebook.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, I'm a big notebook gun too. I'm telling you
write down, babe.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Not the death note.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Y'all know about that. Y'all know about death. No anime fans.
But anime guy, you gotta get on that.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
You're an anime guy, I am.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
You know.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
How do you become an anime guy?

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Let me tell you how.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Okay, you have a roommate that watches anime and you
be like you watch anime, you were you're weird and
it's wrong with you. And then he like, bro, just
watched this one episode. I'm like, nah, He'll ask you
for about six months, bro, watch this episode.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Finally watch it. You're like damn. That's good. Yeah, he's
just watching it.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
I can never get behind you.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
I'm telling you, you just gotta watch one.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
And now you're a big anime guy.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
That's all I watch at that in person Break, I'm
rewatching I'm watching prison Break right now. I'm rewatching it
first time. This is your first time.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yes, me and my wife are watching it, but my
mom and Dada watching it too.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Obsessed. Good, I can't get enough. It's staying up late
time watching it. It's phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
We were talking about who and our families who Michael.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
I'd definitely be Michael Genius.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
People don't really know I'm a genius because I just
i'd be kicking back, laughing at goofing.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Yeah, really what type of genius business genius? No, no, no, no,
Like I'm really like math, yeah, math, like science all that.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Like I'm a genius. Science is my favorite subject when
I was in school.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Like, I'm really a genius.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Genius in the sense that you're gonna invet some things
someday you think, you.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Know, I could have, you know what I thought, But
I thought about like.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Like if I was to do it over and go
back to school, I would go to I would go
to school for like quantum physics, and like I would
do some stuff like in that in that field.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
I promise you, I promise you. I'm your genius. What
a point.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
At one point, like I had the whole like I
could say the whole periodic table, like without looking at
the thing.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
I had it.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
I had a big poster boarded periodic table in my room,
like I was really a science nerve for a million
genius two right now, No, heck now, I can't do
it now.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
It's been too long.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
You don't know any of them, or you still know them.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Hyrogen carbon iron a R. No, no more, that's long.
That's a different lifetime.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Now, what's iron? I don't know a G iron? Hell no,
I don't know. It's like F E or something like that.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
No, yeah, it's that.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
I'm prettyretty sure. Pretty there's a A something has a
in it iron.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
But he said it's a R. Something like that. There's
or gone, there's are gone. That's a R.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Iron. Go baby, damn, let's go baby. That's what I'm
talking about.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
It's been a minute, man, I'm a whole different person.

Speaker 6 (30:46):
I used to have not that memorized.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
I had it pretty good down. I used to have
my state capitals memorize.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Oh, yeah, I don't know those pretty good. I don't
know those, don't I think I know all of them.
It's here.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
I could have enameled it. If you asked me a state,
I think I know the answer. Bis Mark.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
I don't even know what that is. Oh, Honolulu.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Oh the symbol, I don't know the symbols. I know
that I'm talking about what the capital is capital.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Yeah, you lost me there. I don't know none.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Maybe it's Saint Pierre.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
I don't know, Yeah that was That's not for me.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Maybe I don't know, huh Pierre. Yeah, Bismarck, North Dakota.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
I'm pretty good at them.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
We used to play a game around the table called
answer the Question, and growing up, I don't know. We
had a lot of kids in our house, so we
used to have place mats and we had one that
was like a map with all the capitals on it.
We did one with like the missions in California, Catholic missions.
Trying to think periodic table. I don't know, oh, like, uh,

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you know, like math multiplication tables probably used to be
fast as hell of that I could just see it.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Yeah, we used to do that time. I used to
be real good those too, Like I would see. I
would look at the first two roads and do them
all in my head. So when the teachers say go, I.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Couldn't write fast enough. Yeah, my brain was faster than flash.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
She couldn't read it, but I knew. I knew what
it said.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
So what do you my last thing? Who's been your
favorite teammates so far in your experience.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
In the NFL? I was leave my dog man trry On.
I don't know. With my twin, we do everything together.
Every time you see me, you see him, you see him?

Speaker 2 (32:39):
When did you meet him?

Speaker 4 (32:41):
When I got here? Ricky Minicamp, Yeah, we just clicked.
And my boy and this and this xtra second rounder
from Missouri. Yeah right, we all we all like the
same but different in our own way.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Same same but different but still same.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, we all just click.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Guy, my boy, it is Force.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Racing season today. I got a jockey on the pod.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
I'm watching us shuffle.

Speaker 6 (33:05):
Good brother, Hello, I might say, Lspanosa. I'm twenty four
years old and I'm glad to be here in Presno.
And uh with you guys.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, looking forward, got to be part of the Bringing
Juice Racing team.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Be Yes, exactly.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
That's that's when I wear my hat.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
That's when I get you the hat.

Speaker 6 (33:21):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
What's the bony starts coming in?

Speaker 6 (33:22):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
So let's just start from the beginning. At what point
do you realize, Hey, I think I should become a jockey.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
Well, I grew up in the industry, and my dad
rode horses. He rode codo horses. My uncle is Victoriuspinosa.
He won the Triple Crown in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Your uncle won the Triple yeahwn wow, and that was.

Speaker 6 (33:42):
In twenty fifteen. And well, I grew up watching my
uncle my dad, so I always knew I wanted to
be a jockey.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
What's the process of becoming a jockey? Isn't there jockey
school and all that stuff.

Speaker 6 (33:56):
Usually in some countries they have jockey schools, but I
where I started in Mexico, they don't have jockey schools.
So it's just go exactly. So, you know, you get
to the racetrack, you start to getting on horses. You
start from basically step one grooming horses. You can start
brushing them, feed them, and then you make your way

(34:18):
up to groom, and then after groom then you and
you are a gallow boy, you start to galloping them,
and then after a gallow boy, you are a jockey.
And that's how.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Basically, how how many years is that process?

Speaker 6 (34:32):
It took me around two years or three years to
my first race to ride my first race.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Ever.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Have you ridden a horse where you say, hey, I
don't want to get back on this thing right now
it's a little too much or too crazy?

Speaker 6 (34:47):
Oh yeah, definitely a bunch of them. And as you
can see right now, I mean it just goes like that.
But I mean I'm never afraid of a horse or
anything like that.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Just like any contact sport.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
What in football, we're taught if you go into a tackle,
if you go into a place scared, that's when exactly when.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
You do get hurt.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, yeah, similar with horse racing.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
Yeah exactly. I mean we do get a lot of
we do get hurt pretty bad. Usually when you have
an accident. It's not it's not it's nothing light. You
know you're always going to get hurt.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
It's big contact. Yes, it's how fast you usually going
on one of these places, usually.

Speaker 6 (35:25):
Forty miles per hour? Forty Yeah, I mean, you can
see them on TV or even here on the Grand Slade,
but when you were actually on them, it feels faster. Yeah, yeah,
I believe me.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
When I was riding Bob sleds, I was like, hey
man on TV, it's like, oh yeah, look as you
totally you go in eighty miles an hour head first,
and it's like it's crazy.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
This is definitely Yeah, it's the same thing here.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
But you'll drive a car forty miles an hour and
it's like you.

Speaker 6 (35:48):
Don't feel it nothing exactly. The thing is that you know,
you you were running against six other horses, seven other horses, right,
and you know everyone is trying to win a race
to all the jockey. So if I have the check
to block you, I'm gonna pluck you. I'm not gonna
let you go through. That's how it usually works.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Obviously, part of being a jockey is you have to
be the ideal fit figure.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yes, what do you do?

Speaker 1 (36:11):
And I know there's weight limitations, there's things of that nature.
What is your fitness and diet plan?

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Look like?

Speaker 6 (36:19):
Well, I have a personal trainer and I work.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Just for your physical health, your Yeah, and to do
this to.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
Write I work out from Monday through Thursday.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
And and what's your workouts? Take, core, squats, bench press,
what are you doing?

Speaker 6 (36:40):
It's a lot of speed and workout. I do a
lot of speed workouts. I do two times a week
is strength, and then the other two days is like
I said, it's more like powerful workout like clos explosiveness.
And that's pretty much what I do basically two hours

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every day. And of course a diet. I don't really
have a diet, but I do try to eat as
clean as I can, right, And that's pretty much.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
How does the weight class work with being a horse
jockey in general? You have to stay underneath a certain
level or how does that work?

Speaker 6 (37:18):
Yeah? Usually every jockie there weight is one eighteen one
seventeen and so where you're at right now, yes, and
you can that way, you can tack one hundred and
twenty one hundred and twenty two. It depends on what
horse you're riding. The weights is different every race. So
they got you got to check our weights every single
race before the race and uh and after the race?

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Oh wow, yes, isn't it advantage to be lighter than obviously? Right?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
It is.

Speaker 6 (37:45):
But at the end of the day, let's say in
this race, they running the weight limits one hundred and
twenty two pounds. If you're lighter, you've got to use
a bigger saddle. So at the end of the day,
is about the same. Yeah, you will have to be
riding at the same same way.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Is this your professional job or do you have other
gigs you have to do to maintain your lifestyle?

Speaker 6 (38:06):
No, this is this is what it is your life.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
So from a just a lifestyle standpoint, what is your
entire you know, paycheck wise, is it strictly based off
of the owners and the trainers giving you your stipend,
or is it hey, go win and you're gonna get
a percentage or what's the industry's standard.

Speaker 6 (38:28):
Well, we usually get a percentage from the person. Let's
say it's one hundred thousand thousand dollars raise the horse.
The owner gets sixty percent with six which is sixty thousand,
and we get ten percent off of that, which would
be six thousand.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
All parties involved. Obviously, you want to win. That means
more money. That we're all on the same team for
something like.

Speaker 6 (38:49):
Yeah, I mean we're here to win, so I mean
you get paid when you get second or third bed.
I mean you're here a way.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
You're a competitor.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
You want to win.

Speaker 6 (38:57):
No, definitely, I mean where I'm when I'm out there,
that's my job. That's why they pay me for and
I get paid for that. So I gotta win, no
matter what win racing.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
What percent would you say is the horse and what
percent is you?

Speaker 6 (39:10):
I would say eighty percent is a horse. You gotta
have a good horse in order to compete. Now, a
bad jockey can make a good horse loose. So that's
a difference.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
A bad jockey can make a good horse, Yes, in
what way?

Speaker 6 (39:25):
I mean you can. Sometimes you gotta stay, you gotta
let the horse be. And some jockey basically could ride
a horse the way the horse doesn't like. And a
good jockey studies a horse how he likes to run,
watch his replace. He doesn't like go on the inside.
He likes to go on the outside, and a bad jockey,

(39:48):
you know, doesn't for example, see replays or any stuff
like that. So that's what I'm saying. A good a
bad jockey can make a good horse loose. So this
little things that matter a lot.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
So you watch a lot of film on the horses,
You're gonna ride.

Speaker 6 (40:02):
Yes, every time. One day before the race, I study.
I study. My horse is the horse I'm gonna ride,
Watch the replace, you know, see what horse is gonna
go to the lead. What am I gonna do with
my horse? Gotta have a plan, A, plan B, plan
C and uh, and then everything changes once they get opens.
You can have your plans and out the window exactly.

(40:23):
So you gotta be prepared. That's why I like to
to study every horse I ride and my competitors.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
What about on a day like today, where you're racing
multiple times in a row, does it take the wind
out of you? Do you ever have days where you
just race once or how's that work?

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (40:37):
For example, today I ride six and it's not bad.
Like I said, I'm very fit, So this is it's
another day for me. But you know it depends well
tomorrow I ride eight.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
It just goes like that.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
How do you move up the ladder as a jockey.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
I think you gotta make your way up. For example,
let's say in these smaller race trecks, you gotta make
a name for yourself. You gotta be on the top
on the standings, and then after that you other people
start seeing you from other race trucks, bigger race tracks.
Then you can get a call from an agent from
other side of other race tracks, bigger race tracks, and

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that's how you make it.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
You know.

Speaker 6 (41:23):
Well, we'll get there, we'll get there.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yes, what's the ultimate goal of a jockey Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 6 (41:28):
Well, personally, yeah, I have a Breeders Cup, Dubi World Cup,
Kentucky Deery. Of course, I think that's every one stream.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
And you got jockey in your blood. You mentioned your
uncle won the Triple Crown.

Speaker 6 (41:41):
Yes, that's crazy, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
That's crazy. Sod you you call them up? Hey, what
should I do here?

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Is he watching you today? Is he critiquing you?

Speaker 2 (41:49):
How's that going? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (41:50):
Basically, when I started writing, when I was an a
printer's writer, I lived with him for around six months
and he taught me a lot. And when I was
a prince, I like to learn them from everyone, not
just him, but other Hall of Fame writers because I
wrote in San Anita, where I was writing with three
other Hall of Fame writers, so I would pay a
lot of attention. If they would tell me something, I

(42:12):
would listen. And I think it's been working out because
I've been putting in practice and it's been working out.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Right, So absolutely. Do you ever get to pick the
colors and what you wear on race day or is
that kind of a sign to you?

Speaker 6 (42:25):
No, those are the owner's colors, right, and I don't
get to to choose.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Would you want to? If you could, I would your colors.

Speaker 6 (42:34):
I like red, navy blue. I would have my silks
this sign and.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
I would wear them.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
You know.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Do you have any pre race rituals?

Speaker 6 (42:44):
Not really, I mean it's just business. Yeah, but I do.
I'm a Christian, so I'm a believer in God, and
before the race, I like to, you know, give a
little prey and and that's pretty much it.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Every competitor should.

Speaker 6 (42:58):
Yes, definitely.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
What's the biggest ball you've taken?

Speaker 6 (43:05):
All of them? I've had, like, yeah, I've had like
five in my career.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
But any any broken bone?

Speaker 6 (43:12):
Honestly, nothing broken, So I try to keep it that way.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yeah, let's let's go.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Well.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
One of the biggest things in these type of contact
sports is learning how to fall. Yeah, it's it's it's
it's almost a skill to say I'm gonna roll with
the earth of It's the ones where you don't know
how to roll with. That's when you get hurt.

Speaker 6 (43:31):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
You got an idea and you have it.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Even if it's a tenth of a second to adjust
your back or flex your shoulder, it counts the difference.
It's when you don't see it coming. That's what it
kicks the craft.

Speaker 6 (43:42):
No, definitely, Sometimes you don't have the chance to do
it because it happens so quick. Sometimes literally you can
go writing and all of sudden you just go down
like that, and it happens so quick that you don't
you don't even have time. But when you do have time,
like you said, you know, you got to know how
to roll. You kind of relax your body and then
that's basically how how I do it.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, So you race horses, you think you could ride
other animals?

Speaker 6 (44:08):
I think I can.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
What animals could you ride?

Speaker 6 (44:10):
I don't know. Elephant, see your brass, anything, you know?

Speaker 3 (44:14):
I like?

Speaker 1 (44:15):
I just like, yeah, yeah, I like animals, lyon, I
like I like competition, rhinoceros, yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (44:23):
Dolphin, anything, even a Formula one car.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Have you considered since you like speed and you like racing,
have you considered other racing events?

Speaker 6 (44:32):
I love cars, so.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
I would love to if you could.

Speaker 6 (44:37):
Oh yeah, well, if I could, I would definitely if
I had the money and and the yes exactly. But
I love everything you know about racing or competition.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Well, I appreciate your time, man.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Thanks you.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
That's the luck. In the next couple of races, we're
gonna we're gonna throw some wagers on you.

Speaker 6 (44:54):
You're saving something.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah, can we get them this hat real quick?