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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On our guy, Parker Gabriel at Parker J. Gabriel on
the social media is Parker, how.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You doing, buddy?
Speaker 3 (00:05):
I'm doing great. How you doing, man? Ah?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
You know, just basking in the warmth that is being
the number one seed. I had to get on Twitter
and tell the poors today, I don't speak not number
one seeds, So you have to excuse my lack of replies.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
As we look at the thing that the Broncos did,
they think by hook and by crook, they got the
number one seed.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Whether you felt like the things were stagged down the stretch,
whether they were just playing conservative because they were up
against backups in multiple games, whatever the case may be,
they still secure the number one seed.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We know the field now, and as I look at
this thing.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm a little bit more concerned about the wild cards
that I am about the division winners.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
What say you, sir, Yeah, I totally agree with you.
It's crazy. I mean, I think this is this is true.
There hasn't been a road AFC team that's won in
the wild card since twenty twenty, and I just think
that's going to change this year. I'm not saying all
of them, but it just is such a wide open field.
And when you look at Houston and Buffalo and the Chargers,
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teams are flawed. Obviously they finished second in their divisions
or third in the you know, second in their divisions
for reasons. But in general, like they are really good
and so you just got great games across the board.
Jacksonville's playing so good it's hard to pick against them.
With Buffalo, but it's hard to pick against Josh Allen too.
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Houston is if they have any semblance of offense, obviously
they're really tough out. And then the Chargers they got
a little bit of rest, at least some of their
guys did last week. That was obviously by design. And
now they go to New England as a team that
you know is just they're not going to go away easily.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, that's one of those things.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
He's fascinating to me because both Buffalo and Houston are
road favorites. The Chargers, who I thought would be a
road favorite or not against New England, and I you know,
with all due respects in.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
New England, I don't want to dog anybody.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
They gets the number two seed, they might be the
team I'm a least afraid of out of this AFC
field except for maybe Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Don't you think that the I wonder about this because
obviously we see things from a very Denver specific like lens,
regardless of whether that's you know, objective or fan or
analysts or whatever. If you're in Denver, you see things
sort of like from that lens. But I actually think
in terms of like the narrative and the national perception
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of New England and Denver, that they're more similar than
they are different, Like I have found myself thinking, and
I've heard a lot of other people like you just
now espouse things about the Patriots that broadcos fans get
mad for people saying about Denver. I don't know if
they're really that good. Yeah, but who did they play.
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We'll see what happens in the playoffs. They could get
knocked out early. Like it just they're different teams that
have different strengths and weaknesses. But that skepticism, I think,
and some of it's warranted both ways in my opinion,
that skepticism for whatever reason has lingered even through eleven
game winning streaks and great regular seasons for both teams.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I said, that's part of the reason I want to
take anything away from them, because again, you know, people
have had sort of the same or similar concerns about Denver,
but you know, watching them, and again I think Mike
Frankle's a heck of a coach.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I think New England's back per se.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I just think in this field, as I look at it,
I could very easily see them losing to the Chargers
and them Chargers being right back here in Denver, which
I think the Chargers think is what's going to happen
based on people I talked to before they played the
Broncos this week.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, certainly what Tony Jefferson thinks is going to happen, right,
And yeah, I mean and listen, that's I think you
saw a little bit of that more than anybody with
the Broncos who's willing to acknowledge on the record, just
in terms of how they played that game, what they ran,
what they did. And obviously, you know, there's not many
secrets when it comes to Sean Payton. He's been you know,
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calling plays in the NFL for twenty years. But if
you have a wrinkle or if you think something is
going to work, you maybe didn't show it. Once you're
up ten to nothing and playing with the lead and
all of that. Now that being said, like when they're
playing with a full deck, jesse Minner and even and
even you know on Sunday jesse Minner and that Chargers
defense has been a handful for Sempayne and bow Nix
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and yeah, Justin Herbert is the mix. And if that's
the divisional matchup, uh in a couple of weeks here,
I mean, that's you might you might feel good about
it or fine about it if you're Denver, but that's
that's no walk in the park. That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, certainly not. And it's that's what I say. It's
the same thing I was saying earlier. It's like, yeah,
I know the Broncos played conservative. It was on Twitter
talking about that. But the one thing I will push
back on is this idea of that Sean Payton has
this secret tranche of the secret playbook that he's holding
or whatever and all this that he is absolute fiction
and this is absolute nonsense. Sean Bags the same guy's
been for fifteen years. They were running bass install stuff.
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They just didn't take any deep shots. I mean it
was conservative and it was, but it was base install stuff.
They've been running all year. You know, as far as
the rest of.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It goes, just they just didn't really take any deep
shots because they didn't have to.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, that's right. It's sort of interesting that after after
Houston beat the Chargers, that was Saturday, right, and then
Sean does a conference colin Monday, and he got asked
about watching that game and the two early touchdowns and
he said, ah, well, you know, the first one was
just a full coverage bus. They just dropped coverage on
the guy. And he's like, I mean, second one was
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pretty good design and you could like see the light
bulb like, oh hey, look there's a quarters beater that
I like, certainly you're not gonna you know, certainly you're
not going to show that in terms of throwing the
ball down the field in week eighteen when you don't
have to. But that's the sort of stuff where it's like,
obviously he said, we got a backlog of film on
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the Chargers, we know everything about them and all of that.
That's all well and good. It doesn't make it easier
necessarily to score on that defense, but yeah, I mean,
you're gonna play a little bit different whoever you have
in the divisional round than you played week seventeen and
eighteen against Chris Pulidocan.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And Trey Lance, right, And that's yeah, that sort of thing,
Like I'm not knocking the Broncos for the strategic decision
to go hyper concern just do Bay's install stuff is
obviously effective. You just want to handle business and not
get hurt. But the other part of that I push
back on is that that you know there's some galaxy
brain ford Ea chess here with the secret you know,
the secret tome of plays that you know that I'm like,
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Sean might throw some some wrinkle out there. I mean,
I half expect to see some sort of razzled out
you know, we need two yards to score. We're gonna
see some sort of razzle dazzle thing like we usually do.
Like we'll see some of that.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
But I don't.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I don't believe that there's some secret try. I mean,
you guy's been coaching and the tape is out on him.
Everybody knows what it is.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
It's just a question whether or not she can execute
on that front.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Across the league. You know, Black Monday today, a lot
of a lot of firings. Anything surprise you.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
A little bit. I just it's one of those things
that I mean, you've been doing this long time, like
you sort of figure it's gonna get to five or
six or seven some way somehow. It's just you know,
like I just it's a little bit interesting. Like there's
a couple, you know, with with Jonson Gannon, it was like,
well he's safe, he's not safe. Maybe he's safe, then
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clearly he wasn't. That's the fancy thing in Cleveland, like
I did it. I guess if you need a clean
slate and all of that, but you're gonna see him
probably shot a job pretty quickly because he was a
good coach. The one that I guess, I mean, I
understand the rationale, but like man Rahee Morris, two years,
you win four in a row to close the year,
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the quarterback that you drafted has been hurt a lot,
Like I just don't quite. I'm not what was he
supposed to do, Like I guess get off to a
better start this year, But I just I don't know.
That one to me was the one where that's a
pretty quick trigger on a guy who you know, they
showed something down the stretch, and I guess that would
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be the one. Maybe I'd equip it with the most Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I always say, if you're not willing to commit to
a guy for four years, what are you doing hired
him in the first place, you know, right, But from
the Atlanta side of things, I think the reason, I
think is the reason here he's they're bringing Matt Ryan
in rid Rich McKay and moving him out of football.
You know, they got rid of Terry fott Noe, who
was frankly a disaster, and so I think at that
point they were just say, well, why don't we just
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clean house.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
We'll bring Matt Ryan in.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
We've got these search firms, you know, with Rick Smith
and all that, and we'll just clean houses. It's just
easier to have a clean break, I think, necessarily than
what it was at the end when I thought he
coached kind of well there at the end. I mean,
they finished in a three way tie for first in
the division at the end of the season. They just
lost the time breakers.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, definitely, And so that's I mean, and I get it, Like,
I mean, Vegas is an obvious one, like you're just
you're going to wipe this slate clean and start over.
I understand that they wanted to do that sort of
like across the board in Atlanta, just it feels like
it feels like a pretty rough break for a he
Morris and I get. The other thing is, you know,
obviously the GMS had the ear of the owners this
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time around because by coaches got fired and a bunch
of general managers did not interesting with Terry Fott No
in Atlanta, though, just I guess one thing to sort
of keep in mind as you go through the winner,
if you're looking at, you know, bounce back opportunities and
all of that, is like that the guy Shawn's really
tight with Sean, He's really tight with Terry Fogo, so
you know, being your personnel advisor or whatever somewhere down
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the way, this would be nothing. It's going to happen
reporting that or anything. But like, this is just he's
one of those guys that this would seem like a
logical landing spot somewhere, you know, in some capacity.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, And I would not be surprised at all.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I mean, he's got plenty of experience with shown there
in New Orleans. Back to the game yesterday, The one
thing that I think stuck out of me. I don't
have too many criticisms of that game. I mean, obviously, again,
it's one of those those games where you're coming in
with uh, just a minimal, you know, bare bones, vanilla
game play, and you're trying to keep everybody healthy. One
of my Mike grice in this one is is Julia
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McLoughlin's clearly a better running back than r J.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Harvey at this point.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Rjie Harvey is a phenomenal receiver, h a phenomenal pass
catching back, But in terms of actually running the football,
Julia McLoughlin has instincts, he has vision, he has patients,
and I watched RJ. Harvey slam into the backside of
that line I think fifteen times over the course of
that game. What what are what are we doing not
giving Juliel a little bit more run and maybe taking
a little off of RJ.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Harvey's plate, especially in terms of running the football.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, I guess. I guess my best explanation of that
would be the Week eighteen factor. There. Part of what
I wrote after the game actually, Ben was you know,
I just sort of wonder if it's gonna be a
Julian McLoughlin postseason at least, unless you you know, until
you know who knows. Maybe you get to a conversation
about Dobbins, you know, being in the picture later in
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the postseason or what what have you. But like with
what you've got, I completely agree with you. I mean,
I think I think you've got to, you know, give
the ball to Juli mcgloffin more off and he had
six carries, seven touches. I think he generated fifty eight yards. Uh.
And he just like you say, he has instincts, he
has burst. He's not a home run hitter, but he's
gonna get you what the line gives you and the
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line has you know. I think you just sort of
see the juxtaposition of it's not like JK. Dobbins got
hurt in the offensive lines performance all of a sudden
took in those guys, Like the yardage is there, uh,
and Jelim mcloflin's getting it. He's up to five point
one per carry. So you're you're talking about obviously you
need to find a way to keep RJ. Harvey, you know,
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pretty thoroughly involved because he's dynamic with the ball in
his hands in space. But as it pertains to you know,
making the one cut and making the right cut in
the backfield in the sort of pattern of the run game.
Julim McLoughlin is just, you know, pretty far ahead of
r J.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Harvey at this point, and I think that's It's funny
because Joel Magoffin's only a year.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Older than RJ.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Harvey, I believe, and and he's one of the old
He's the all time leading rusher in college football history.
RJ is a converted quarterback who converted, you know, after
his after his freshman season, to running back. So those
instincts that's not gonna be there yet. He hasn't had
all those uh all those reps. That's not to say
Argie can't get there, but I'm just saying, like quick,
we're in the middle of a playoff run now, and
it just feels like I'm like, I'm looking at one
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guy who clearly knows what he's doing and one guy
who clearly doesn't. And I'm wondering, what, you know, these
guys would get paid significantly more than me to have
a better pulse on this or are kind of doing
with that. But that makes a good point overall that
maybe it's going to be an r J.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Harvey.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Excuse me, Juliama glossin postseason talking with Parker Gable from
the post was a Rique comes in there and gets
a sack.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
How great has his redemption story been?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And you know, is that part of the reason maybe
that Lebronco's not even looking at it putting anything in
front of John Franklin Myers.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Oh, one hundred percent. I think it'd be a different conversation.
You know. Stadion Jones, obviously when he got drafted this spring,
the conversation was, oh, jfm's role after a year, But
if you look at it right now after a regular season,
if he was Rique, that has put himself in position,
you know, to sort of take that role. And Zach
Allen told me after the game, he was like, yeah,
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not only has he been really good, but he's taken
two hundred two or three hundred snaps off of my play.
Zach Allen's plate over the course of the year, kept
fresh are as the season has gone along. He's really
been a revelation. Obviously, the baggage is in the past,
the suspension, you know, the sort of silver lining at
this point for the Broncos on that is that his
contract told So he's a twenty twenty two draft pick,
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but he still has a next year under contract, And yeah,
I mean he's a guy who when you look at
Roach and Juazuique, like the SNAP distribution, if you're looking
at next year right now, the way the group is
right now, if you just take JFM out of it,
Like obviously the SNAP distribution is a little bit different,
but they're really fairly well positioned. Not that it wouldn't
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be a loss to have JFM playing somewhere else, but
they're really pretty well positioned with the way that both
jaza Rique and Roach, the way their games have grown
over the course of this season, Like, that's a group
that looks like a continue can continue to be disruptive
next year even without JFM.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Parker Gabriel last one for me, Parker, as we look
at his wildcard round, who are you I don't most
afraid of? But who do you not want to see
on that opening game? And who do you most want
to see in that opening game?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
For Denver?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Well, I think the Chargers are just like it's hard
to it'd be hard for me to believe that, you know,
that's that's a great matchup coming back in two weeks.
Just obviously it's a different game when you play without
the starters and all of that, So put them at
the top of the list. Houston's interesting obviously the defense.
Their defense is so good. You know what kind of
game that would be if it was them, So, you know,
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I think I think if you're dreaming big, the best
matchup probably is Pittsburgh. And just you know, Aaron Rodgers,
you saw the magic the other ninety forty one. Still
you can get to them all of that. So put
me in the camp of the Broncos. You know, it's
tough if they draw the Chargers again. And on the
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other end of the spectrum, I think you put Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, I think I think I'd tend to agree with you.
Appreciate you, man.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Look forward to to the off week here we all
get a chance to watch the football and hopefully we
get the matchup we want here for these Denver Broncos
at his home playoff game.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, that's why it's gonna be. It's gonna be quite
a scene one way or another.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I love it, hey man, have a good one to
talk its later.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Thanks to Parker Gabriel had Parker J. Gabriel never post,
we got an FL six pack we come back. Shout
out Parker Gabriel for joining us in the last week.
I always lovet having him all this is great insight.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Did you see or I guess I don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I was listening to the postgame press conference with Sean
Payton and Parker Gabriel asked a great question like he
always does, and then Sean Payton goes on this rant
about hey, you always got something to write, but you
don't don't have anything to say, and I thought he
was talking about Parker.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I'm like, no way, he's trash at Parker. He was
not talking about Parker Gabriel.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
He was.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
He was Sean was talking about Mark Kisler.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I found that out earlier, earlier today. But I was like,
he can't be throwing Parker under the bus here.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, that was a weird That was a weird deal,
and honestly, Sean should be about that. Like, first of all,
who cares if somebody doesn't ask a question at the
press or they might not have anything to ask.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
There's a lot of those guys that ask questions just
to hear their voice and crazy, like I go to
I go to this press conferences.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I don't ask a lot of questions because I mean
I'll ask if I've got something that asks the there's
something I want to know. But you know, I mean
as far as that stuff goes, like, I don't ask
a lot of questions because a lot of.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Times it's just not something. I don't think I'm adding
anything to the conversation. I don't have anything that I
think adds to the Conversation's gonna cut you off? Your
question is no?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I mean there's been there have been times for a
half I mean, I love doing the ones with him
and George because then you can you can really get
into stuff like when they when you know, when the
special Teams rules changed to the new kickoff and I
like three or four we had a great repartee with that.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
But yeah, Sean Paigon's got to be above that. Don't
don't troll. I mean, I get it. You know, that's
casuless stick. That's what he is.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
That's that's who he's been love for, hate him, That's
just what he is. He's got to be above that
because now what happens is Mark Kisley knows, he knows
he's got your goat, and he's good, you know.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Now he knows you kind of like our guy Sean
Keeler up at CEU. Right, it's exactly same thing.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
So that's one of those things where I'm like, I
would not have if I were Sean Payton, I would
not have done that. It didn't really really do anything
for Sean Payton. Yeah, you know, I guess a couple
of social media people like that's a coach, But in reality,
all you did was let him know that you read
everything you know.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Let's get to the NFL sixpect. It's time for the
NFL six pack.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I'm gonna trade the last year insighted inside information you
can't find anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
No, the top six NFL headline one well, starting with
a coach that did not lose his job.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Quarterback Joe Burrow knows changes need to be made in Cincinnati.
None of those changes will include the twenty twenty five coaches.
Coach Zach Taylor told reporters earlier today that he plans
to make no changes to the staff. Those assistants ultimately
may be insulated by the same thing that has gotten
Taylor another year, despite only two playoff appearances in seven
years and three spirit years of no postseason verse the
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money because the Bengals are cheap. It's always about the money.
Football is business. They only say football is family because
it's good for business to say.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Football is family.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
They don't want the fans to see it like the
black ink red ink reality that it is. They want
the fans to think they're trying to win the Super
Bowl every year, and that's just not the Bengals. For
all teams, it's about making as much money as possible,
and part of the effort to maximize profits is to
get fans to show up for games and buy overpriced stuff,
acting like they desperately want to hoist a Lombardi Trophy.
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Trophy is simply part of the grip with thirty two teams.
Any owner who hinges on happiness on winning a championship
and setting themselves up for likely failure. The Bengals who
aren't operated by multi billionaires who can treat the football
team as a write off or a vanity project. The
football business is ownership's only business. If they fire a coach,
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they owe him money. What do you think about Zach
Taylor not removing any of his assistant coaches?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
And do you agree that the Bengals are cheap?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Bengals are absolutely cheap.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
They have some of the biggest money problems in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
They're cheap. They have the smallest scouting staff by far.
They're just they are that, you know, that organization, and they.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Try to cut corners a lot of places, and there
were a lot of people that wondered how they were
gonna be able to pay Joe Burrow. They literally had
to sell naming rights that they didn't want to sell
in an effort to raise cash to be able to
to do that. In the NFL, if there is fully
guaranteed money in your contracts, when you sign that contract,
that money has to be put in escrow by the
NFL team within like two three weeks, like in cash.
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So if you guarantee money, you have to have it
in cash already and then put that in escrow so
that it's there because it's guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
So yeah, a lot there are teams that have struggled
with that over the year. The Raiders now are flushed
with cash thanks to the move to Vegas, but they
used to be that team. The Chargers have historically been
a team that struggled, though they've gotten better since they moved.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
To La.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And of course the Bengals as far as the rest
of it goes with the coaching staff playing. If you
don't have to make any changes, would you? You're not
been more I was you and and the Bengals you
could call a chief, call it whatever, have incredible patience
when it comes to that. I mean, Martin Lewis coached
for what sixteen years and didn't get a playoff win.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yep, there you go. I mean, the Bars is the.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Well.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I mean, and to be fair, Martin Lewis took that
team from a joke to at least competitive, but you know,
you needed somebody to build off that, and they never
got there. Uh and they wasted some some years with
some real talent that they had. I mean there was
some there's a couple of teams there where they had
some pretty good receivers, running backs and and all that
kind of stuff. You know, the end of the day, though,
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I mean, if you don't have to, don't you know,
I don't blame Zach Taylor for keeping all his dudes
if they're not making them.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I don't either.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
I mean, you know how close most of these coaching
staffs are.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Cost cost a guy in Arizona his job. Just a
prediction for you.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Do you think Joe Burrow will play his entire career
in Cincinnati or you think he will play somewhere else
in the near teacher, I.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Believe Joe Burrow will be a lifelong Bengal, the same
way Peyton Manning was a lifelong cult Tom Brady was
a lifelong Patriot, you know what I mean? Like I
believe that he'll be ay Bengal. For our best staffer
was a lifelong flight you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Like you were.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
You have a lengthy career somewhere and then you spend
the twilight years somewhere else, trying desperately to get you know,
to get one before you go.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Wow, who day.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Another coach who didn't lose their job, Shane Steiken. The
Colts lost eight of their last nine games in the
twenty twenty five season, but the team's reaction to the
way the season ended is more focused on their seven
and one start. Team owner Carly Ers Gordon addressed the
decision to retain both general manager Chris Ballard and head
coach Shane Stikeen at a press conference earlier today. She
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said she was pleased without Ballard was more active in
pre agency in the trade market to put together the
roster that began the.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Season so well.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
The Colts believe that he's going to be able to
replicate what we were on our way to join and
that Stikeen is the right.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Person to coach that team.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Of course, the injuries to Daniel Jones and other key
players contributed to the Colt slide, but Ursa Gordon said,
we've got to be able to handle adversity better and
still find a way to win, and that the two
men know they have to do that immediately. Well, there'll
be a playoffs or departure next year for the Colts
GM and the head coach maybe.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
And part of the reason that they stuck around and
I thought Ballard might be out. I knew Stichen was
gonna be out, but Ballard might be out. And the
reason that I thought that was, you know, down the
stretch collapse and and the roster in and of itself
they were humming before injuries just decimated.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I mean, that's that's really what happened.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
At the end of the day, once they lost the
quarterback Daniel Jones, it was just all downhill from there.
Then they had problems, you know, with the Charver's ward
and concussions you had, you just had too many injuries
to deal with, and that that ultimately was it. They
got to figure out if they bringing Alex Pearce and
Daniel Jones back and all that kind of stuff. But
I believe they'll bring Daniel Jones back, that's the question.
But you know, end of the day, I'm not surprised
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shans Sty wasn't fired. I mean they were that thing
was hummed. He was cooking when they had everything in place.
Did you see that Alec Peters ejection? I think totally ludicrous. Absolutely.
I mean he technically made contact, but it was accident,
all right, Yeah it wasn't a Dre greenlowins.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah. Three.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Well, another coach that seems to be safe.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Mike McDaniel, he's not closing the door on Tua tag
of I Looa's return or sees a twenty twenty six
QB competition. Tua said on earlier today that a fresh
star elsewhere would be dope.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
The Dolphins, though, have not.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Decided on the quarterback's future. Mike McDaniel said he will
meet with Tua tomorrow morning at eight Eastern times. The
coach said he would not close the door on Tua's return.
First things first, I don't think anybody understands what it
would be like to be through the ringer like he has.
McDaniel said he'll have to work to get back to
the results that were used to seeing Dolphins bench two
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after a week fifteen loss with rookie's seventh round pick
Quinn were starting the final two games to US sixteen
hundred and sixty passing yards, where his US since twenty
twenty one and his fifteen interceptions.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Were a career high.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Yours looks pretty good in those two starts. What do
you think the future for Tula looks like?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Is it in Miami? No, it's not Miami.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
They'll move on from him and Tyreek Hill and you know,
I don't know if quinn Ewers is necessarily the guy,
but he'll be in the mix. Yeah, Miami's gonna reset
Mike McDaniel coach his way back into his job. They're
trying to hire a GM that knows him. They got
like three of the guys from the forty nine ers
in there to you know, to interview. They get they
get the salter from Green Bay, and I think they
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got a couple of the guys on their their GM list,
but they're bringing in three guys from San Francisco. You know,
they kind of know that hole, that system an organization
and with the players. You know, with pint of players,
you need all that kind of stuff. And I think
they're trying to set this thing up for Mike McDaniel
to be as successful as possible.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
But to it and Tyreek Hill will be gone.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Poor all time, bron goes great and current commander's edge
rusher Von Miller, I'm not ready to hang him up yet.
He had a sack and Sunday's win over the Eagles,
giving him nine for the season. It was the edge
rusher's most sacks since he had nine and a half
and twenty twenty one. Miller, who is thirty six years old,
has one hundred and thirty eight and a half sacks
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in his career, which ties in with the Marcus Ware
for the ninth most since sacks became an official stat
in nineteen eighty two. He's only three and a half
from ranking sixth all time. Miller said earlier today he
wants to continue his career and he hopes that means
a return to the Commanders. Miller, though, will become a
free agent in March. He said, I'll be thirty seven
years old in March. I think I proved to myself
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I can play another year. I want to be here,
but I'm not in a position to start making demands
and saying where I want to play, where I want
to be at. Do you think von Miller has another
year left in Washington.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I don't know if necessarily it's in Washington. I do
believe he's got there's some left in the tank. We
saw that he had a pretty decent year overall when
he got you know, extra blank time as a pass
rush specialist. I don't think he's an every down player anymore.
I think he's a guy that if you're in third
and eight plus, you put him in there to get
after the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
But you know, I think there's still a little something
left in the tank.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
And certainly I think you can see a maturity from
him and the way that he approaches the game now
versus you know, maybe you know, maybe he's more the
DeMarcus ware type now than he was the Von Miller
type early in Von Miller's career. I think that maturity
from him goes a long way. He's an older statesman
in the league. There's you know, his get carries a
lot of weight.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
In the locker room.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Not be surprised if he's on somebody's roster, whether that's
Washington or not. Who need to retool their entire you know,
senior citizen defense.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
You think there could be one last reunion with Denver
on that?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I don't believe. I don't think. I mean, because who
are you taking off the field to put von Miller
on there?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Do you really you're really taking Cooper who you're paying
like Benito, who you're paying jonah Ellis, who you're bringing
up Telby, who's been successful? I mean, I Kean Robinson,
who in flashes looked really good. I don't I think
you're tak any of those guys off the field to
pay von Miller what it would take to bring him
in as a third down specialist.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Five.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Speaking of pass rushers from one of the all time
greats to one of the current greats, Max Crosby. He
addressed the Pete Carroll firing earlier today on the Let's
Go podcast. He said, I haven't had time to really
process it, to be honest, I just found out. I'm
here in the building and I literally see it pop
up on the TV. It was kind of gloomy. I
would say it's something that I've been a part of before.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Just to speak on Pete.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
This season didn't go the way we expected it at all,
from the players to the coaches. I don't think anybody
expected we would be in this position from getting the
number one pick, to be honest, But I will say,
you know, the one thing I did admire about Pete
is he was I mean, consistent as they come. He
has won for such a long time. He's a super
Bowl champion, national champion at USC. He has been an
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incredible coach and he has had an incredible journey. Give
me the details on the Pete Carroll firing, because I
can't believe it was one and done. And do you
think Max Crosby is a Raider next year after they
benched him down the stretch?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I kind of do, because I think it's going to
be Brian Flores there and I think he'll he'll want
to be a.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Part of that, so I think that may salvage that.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
That's sand I mean, the Raiders have fired five coaches
in five years since twenty twenty since twenty twenty one,
excuse me, John Gruden, Rich Bassaccia, Josh McDaniels, Antonio Pierson,
now Pete Carroll.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
That's five coaches in five years. That is the heights
of instability, and that's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I mean, Brian Flores may take that job because he
probably not gonna gettle their jobs while he's sew.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
In the league.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
But you need if you're taking that job, you definitely have.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Got to get like a five six year deal from
them to give yourself the security to be able to
be there. As far as the Raider situation goes, Tom
Brady was the guy who brought in Pete Carroll. He's
the guy that brought in Chip Kelly. That was a
forced marriage. That was not Pete Carroll's idea. He wanted
one of his guys. The chip Kelly thing definitely didn't
work out.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Pete Carroll kind of brought in his kids.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I mean, Brennan Carroll's the offensive line coach, and it
was the offensive line was bad despite an infusion of talent,
and Pete wouldn't fire or move his son to anything else,
which you know, that's one of those things that, like,
there's something to be ceper standing up for you guys,
and then there's something to be said for hey man,
I get that you want to work as your kid,
but maybe he's a control gout quality control guy, you know,
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and not the offensive line coach. So it was just
a bad situation all the way around. And you know
Tom Brady who had his sight set on Ben Jonhnson.
Ben Johnson was never coming to the Raiders. He was
always going to Chicago. Used the Raiders for contract leverage,
you know, So that's kind of the thing. So I
think you could probably go to see.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Brian Flores with maybe Brian Dables his offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
There.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Other options do include Vans, Joseph six okay Man.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Brown's quarterback Deshaun Watson did not play in twenty twenty
five or recovering from a second torn achilles, but he
remains with the club and is still under contract through
next season.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Weill Cleveland needs a new coach.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Club could, in theory, played Watson at quarterback if he's healthy.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Enough to do so.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Is Watson and the team's plans for next year, Well, first,
I'll say that we're very pleased with how Deshaun went
through and attacked his rehab this past year, how engaged
he was with the team, what he did in the
meeting rooms. General manager Andrew Barry said earlier today, very
pleased with the progress that he made in that regard. Look,
I can't I can never predict the future, but right
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now we do anticipate him being on the twenty twenty
sixteen but we have a long way to go before
we get to that point with any player. Brown's owner
Jimmy Haslam, who we were talking about earlier, admitted back
at the league meeting last March that the team took
a big swing and miss with the Watson trade. No kidding,
Do you expect Watson to be on the roster for
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the Browns in twenty twenty six and when we see
him play.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
In a game, Well, I he'll be on the roster
by virtue of feel the money the rest of it.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't even know if we
get any play time. Shawn Watson is what eight, there's
nine and ten as a starter for the Browns.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
You know, in three three years since he's he's been there,
well four years, I guess included if you include this year.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
But he didn't play.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Uh, he's thirty years old. I mean he has he's
thrown Uh what is it for for nineteen touchdowns? I
think since he's been in uh in Cleveland, nineteen total
touchdowns of the course of four years to twelve interceptions,
he hasn't had a quarterback rating above forty five into
the QBR.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I just I think they'll just move on from that.
He's just there for Kappadomics.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I appreciate you guys been along for varad here in
Broncos Country tonight, buff Prime.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Time up next, Harel Cantway.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
How could you do that, Andrew? How could you do it?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
That's malarkey.
On our guy, Parker Gabriel at Parker J. Gabriel on
the social media is Parker, how.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You doing, buddy?
Speaker 3 (00:05):
I'm doing great. How you doing, man? Ah?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
You know, just basking in the warmth that is being
the number one seed. I had to get on Twitter
and tell the poors today, I don't speak not number
one seeds, So you have to excuse my lack of replies.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
As we look at the thing that the Broncos did,
they think by hook and by crook, they got the
number one seed.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Whether you felt like the things were stagged down the stretch,
whether they were just playing conservative because they were up
against backups in multiple games, whatever the case may be,
they still secure the number one seed.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We know the field now, and as I look at
this thing.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm a little bit more concerned about the wild cards
that I am about the division winners.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
What say you, sir, Yeah, I totally agree with you.
It's crazy. I mean, I think this is this is true.
There hasn't been a road AFC team that's won in
the wild card since twenty twenty, and I just think
that's going to change this year. I'm not saying all
of them, but it just is such a wide open field.
And when you look at Houston and Buffalo and the Chargers,
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teams are flawed. Obviously they finished second in their divisions
or third in the you know, second in their divisions
for reasons. But in general, like they are really good
and so you just got great games across the board.
Jacksonville's playing so good it's hard to pick against them.
With Buffalo, but it's hard to pick against Josh Allen too.
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Houston is if they have any semblance of offense, obviously
they're really tough out. And then the Chargers they got
a little bit of rest, at least some of their
guys did last week. That was obviously by design. And
now they go to New England as a team that
you know is just they're not going to go away easily.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, that's one of those things.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
He's fascinating to me because both Buffalo and Houston are
road favorites. The Chargers, who I thought would be a
road favorite or not against New England, and I you know,
with all due respects in.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
New England, I don't want to dog anybody.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
They gets the number two seed, they might be the
team I'm a least afraid of out of this AFC
field except for maybe Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Don't you think that the I wonder about this because
obviously we see things from a very Denver specific like lens,
regardless of whether that's you know, objective or fan or
analysts or whatever. If you're in Denver, you see things
sort of like from that lens. But I actually think
in terms of like the narrative and the national perception
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of New England and Denver, that they're more similar than
they are different, Like I have found myself thinking, and
I've heard a lot of other people like you just
now espouse things about the Patriots that broadcos fans get
mad for people saying about Denver. I don't know if
they're really that good. Yeah, but who did they play.
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We'll see what happens in the playoffs. They could get
knocked out early. Like it just they're different teams that
have different strengths and weaknesses. But that skepticism, I think,
and some of it's warranted both ways in my opinion,
that skepticism for whatever reason has lingered even through eleven
game winning streaks and great regular seasons for both teams.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I said, that's part of the reason I want to
take anything away from them, because again, you know, people
have had sort of the same or similar concerns about Denver,
but you know, watching them, and again I think Mike
Frankle's a heck of a coach.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I think New England's back per se.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I just think in this field, as I look at it,
I could very easily see them losing to the Chargers
and them Chargers being right back here in Denver, which
I think the Chargers think is what's going to happen
based on people I talked to before they played the
Broncos this week.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, certainly what Tony Jefferson thinks is going to happen, right,
And yeah, I mean and listen, that's I think you
saw a little bit of that more than anybody with
the Broncos who's willing to acknowledge on the record, just
in terms of how they played that game, what they ran,
what they did. And obviously, you know, there's not many
secrets when it comes to Sean Payton. He's been you know,
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calling plays in the NFL for twenty years. But if
you have a wrinkle or if you think something is
going to work, you maybe didn't show it. Once you're
up ten to nothing and playing with the lead and
all of that. Now that being said, like when they're
playing with a full deck, jesse Minner and even and
even you know on Sunday jesse Minner and that Chargers
defense has been a handful for Sempayne and bow Nix
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and yeah, Justin Herbert is the mix. And if that's
the divisional matchup, uh in a couple of weeks here,
I mean, that's you might you might feel good about
it or fine about it if you're Denver, but that's
that's no walk in the park. That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, certainly not. And it's that's what I say. It's
the same thing I was saying earlier. It's like, yeah,
I know the Broncos played conservative. It was on Twitter
talking about that. But the one thing I will push
back on is this idea of that Sean Payton has
this secret tranche of the secret playbook that he's holding
or whatever and all this that he is absolute fiction
and this is absolute nonsense. Sean Bags the same guy's
been for fifteen years. They were running bass install stuff.
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They just didn't take any deep shots. I mean it
was conservative and it was, but it was base install stuff.
They've been running all year. You know, as far as
the rest of.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It goes, just they just didn't really take any deep
shots because they didn't have to.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, that's right. It's sort of interesting that after after
Houston beat the Chargers, that was Saturday, right, and then
Sean does a conference colin Monday, and he got asked
about watching that game and the two early touchdowns and
he said, ah, well, you know, the first one was
just a full coverage bus. They just dropped coverage on
the guy. And he's like, I mean, second one was
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pretty good design and you could like see the light
bulb like, oh hey, look there's a quarters beater that
I like, certainly you're not gonna you know, certainly you're
not going to show that in terms of throwing the
ball down the field in week eighteen when you don't
have to. But that's the sort of stuff where it's like,
obviously he said, we got a backlog of film on
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the Chargers, we know everything about them and all of that.
That's all well and good. It doesn't make it easier
necessarily to score on that defense, but yeah, I mean,
you're gonna play a little bit different whoever you have
in the divisional round than you played week seventeen and
eighteen against Chris Pulidocan.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And Trey Lance, right, And that's yeah, that sort of thing,
Like I'm not knocking the Broncos for the strategic decision
to go hyper concern just do Bay's install stuff is
obviously effective. You just want to handle business and not
get hurt. But the other part of that I push
back on is that that you know there's some galaxy
brain ford Ea chess here with the secret you know,
the secret tome of plays that you know that I'm like,
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Sean might throw some some wrinkle out there. I mean,
I half expect to see some sort of razzled out
you know, we need two yards to score. We're gonna
see some sort of razzle dazzle thing like we usually do.
Like we'll see some of that.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
But I don't.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I don't believe that there's some secret try. I mean,
you guy's been coaching and the tape is out on him.
Everybody knows what it is.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
It's just a question whether or not she can execute
on that front.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Across the league. You know, Black Monday today, a lot
of a lot of firings. Anything surprise you.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
A little bit. I just it's one of those things
that I mean, you've been doing this long time, like
you sort of figure it's gonna get to five or
six or seven some way somehow. It's just you know,
like I just it's a little bit interesting. Like there's
a couple, you know, with with Jonson Gannon, it was like,
well he's safe, he's not safe. Maybe he's safe, then
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clearly he wasn't. That's the fancy thing in Cleveland, like
I did it. I guess if you need a clean
slate and all of that, but you're gonna see him
probably shot a job pretty quickly because he was a
good coach. The one that I guess, I mean, I
understand the rationale, but like man Rahee Morris, two years,
you win four in a row to close the year,
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the quarterback that you drafted has been hurt a lot,
Like I just don't quite. I'm not what was he
supposed to do, Like I guess get off to a
better start this year, But I just I don't know.
That one to me was the one where that's a
pretty quick trigger on a guy who you know, they
showed something down the stretch, and I guess that would
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be the one. Maybe I'd equip it with the most Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I always say, if you're not willing to commit to
a guy for four years, what are you doing hired
him in the first place, you know, right, But from
the Atlanta side of things, I think the reason, I
think is the reason here he's they're bringing Matt Ryan
in rid Rich McKay and moving him out of football.
You know, they got rid of Terry fott Noe, who
was frankly a disaster, and so I think at that
point they were just say, well, why don't we just
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clean house.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
We'll bring Matt Ryan in.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
We've got these search firms, you know, with Rick Smith
and all that, and we'll just clean houses. It's just
easier to have a clean break, I think, necessarily than
what it was at the end when I thought he
coached kind of well there at the end. I mean,
they finished in a three way tie for first in
the division at the end of the season. They just
lost the time breakers.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, definitely, And so that's I mean, and I get it, Like,
I mean, Vegas is an obvious one, like you're just
you're going to wipe this slate clean and start over.
I understand that they wanted to do that sort of
like across the board in Atlanta, just it feels like
it feels like a pretty rough break for a he
Morris and I get. The other thing is, you know,
obviously the GMS had the ear of the owners this
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time around because by coaches got fired and a bunch
of general managers did not interesting with Terry Fott No
in Atlanta, though, just I guess one thing to sort
of keep in mind as you go through the winner,
if you're looking at, you know, bounce back opportunities and
all of that, is like that the guy Shawn's really
tight with Sean, He's really tight with Terry Fogo, so
you know, being your personnel advisor or whatever somewhere down
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the way, this would be nothing. It's going to happen
reporting that or anything. But like, this is just he's
one of those guys that this would seem like a
logical landing spot somewhere, you know, in some capacity.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, And I would not be surprised at all.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I mean, he's got plenty of experience with shown there
in New Orleans. Back to the game yesterday, The one
thing that I think stuck out of me. I don't
have too many criticisms of that game. I mean, obviously, again,
it's one of those those games where you're coming in
with uh, just a minimal, you know, bare bones, vanilla
game play, and you're trying to keep everybody healthy. One
of my Mike grice in this one is is Julia
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McLoughlin's clearly a better running back than r J.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Harvey at this point.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Rjie Harvey is a phenomenal receiver, h a phenomenal pass
catching back, But in terms of actually running the football,
Julia McLoughlin has instincts, he has vision, he has patients,
and I watched RJ. Harvey slam into the backside of
that line I think fifteen times over the course of
that game. What what are what are we doing not
giving Juliel a little bit more run and maybe taking
a little off of RJ.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Harvey's plate, especially in terms of running the football.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, I guess. I guess my best explanation of that
would be the Week eighteen factor. There. Part of what
I wrote after the game actually, Ben was you know,
I just sort of wonder if it's gonna be a
Julian McLoughlin postseason at least, unless you you know, until
you know who knows. Maybe you get to a conversation
about Dobbins, you know, being in the picture later in
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the postseason or what what have you. But like with
what you've got, I completely agree with you. I mean,
I think I think you've got to, you know, give
the ball to Juli mcgloffin more off and he had
six carries, seven touches. I think he generated fifty eight yards. Uh.
And he just like you say, he has instincts, he
has burst. He's not a home run hitter, but he's
gonna get you what the line gives you and the
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line has you know. I think you just sort of
see the juxtaposition of it's not like JK. Dobbins got
hurt in the offensive lines performance all of a sudden
took in those guys, Like the yardage is there, uh,
and Jelim mcloflin's getting it. He's up to five point
one per carry. So you're you're talking about obviously you
need to find a way to keep RJ. Harvey, you know,
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pretty thoroughly involved because he's dynamic with the ball in
his hands in space. But as it pertains to you know,
making the one cut and making the right cut in
the backfield in the sort of pattern of the run game.
Julim McLoughlin is just, you know, pretty far ahead of
r J.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Harvey at this point, and I think that's It's funny
because Joel Magoffin's only a year.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Older than RJ.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Harvey, I believe, and and he's one of the old
He's the all time leading rusher in college football history.
RJ is a converted quarterback who converted, you know, after
his after his freshman season, to running back. So those
instincts that's not gonna be there yet. He hasn't had
all those uh all those reps. That's not to say
Argie can't get there, but I'm just saying, like quick,
we're in the middle of a playoff run now, and
it just feels like I'm like, I'm looking at one
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guy who clearly knows what he's doing and one guy
who clearly doesn't. And I'm wondering, what, you know, these
guys would get paid significantly more than me to have
a better pulse on this or are kind of doing
with that. But that makes a good point overall that
maybe it's going to be an r J.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Harvey.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Excuse me, Juliama glossin postseason talking with Parker Gable from
the post was a Rique comes in there and gets
a sack.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
How great has his redemption story been?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And you know, is that part of the reason maybe
that Lebronco's not even looking at it putting anything in
front of John Franklin Myers.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Oh, one hundred percent. I think it'd be a different conversation.
You know. Stadion Jones, obviously when he got drafted this spring,
the conversation was, oh, jfm's role after a year, But
if you look at it right now after a regular season,
if he was Rique, that has put himself in position,
you know, to sort of take that role. And Zach
Allen told me after the game, he was like, yeah,
(12:51):
not only has he been really good, but he's taken
two hundred two or three hundred snaps off of my play.
Zach Allen's plate over the course of the year, kept
fresh are as the season has gone along. He's really
been a revelation. Obviously, the baggage is in the past,
the suspension, you know, the sort of silver lining at
this point for the Broncos on that is that his
contract told So he's a twenty twenty two draft pick,
(13:14):
but he still has a next year under contract, And yeah,
I mean he's a guy who when you look at
Roach and Juazuique, like the SNAP distribution, if you're looking
at next year right now, the way the group is
right now, if you just take JFM out of it,
Like obviously the SNAP distribution is a little bit different,
but they're really fairly well positioned. Not that it wouldn't
(13:36):
be a loss to have JFM playing somewhere else, but
they're really pretty well positioned with the way that both
jaza Rique and Roach, the way their games have grown
over the course of this season, Like, that's a group
that looks like a continue can continue to be disruptive
next year even without JFM.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Parker Gabriel last one for me, Parker, as we look
at his wildcard round, who are you I don't most
afraid of? But who do you not want to see
on that opening game? And who do you most want
to see in that opening game?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
For Denver?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Well, I think the Chargers are just like it's hard
to it'd be hard for me to believe that, you know,
that's that's a great matchup coming back in two weeks.
Just obviously it's a different game when you play without
the starters and all of that, So put them at
the top of the list. Houston's interesting obviously the defense.
Their defense is so good. You know what kind of
game that would be if it was them, So, you know,
(14:30):
I think I think if you're dreaming big, the best
matchup probably is Pittsburgh. And just you know, Aaron Rodgers,
you saw the magic the other ninety forty one. Still
you can get to them all of that. So put
me in the camp of the Broncos. You know, it's
tough if they draw the Chargers again. And on the
(14:52):
other end of the spectrum, I think you put Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, I think I think I'd tend to agree with you.
Appreciate you, man.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Look forward to to the off week here we all
get a chance to watch the football and hopefully we
get the matchup we want here for these Denver Broncos
at his home playoff game.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, that's why it's gonna be. It's gonna be quite
a scene one way or another.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I love it, hey man, have a good one to
talk its later.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Thanks to Parker Gabriel had Parker J. Gabriel never post,
we got an FL six pack we come back. Shout
out Parker Gabriel for joining us in the last week.
I always lovet having him all this is great insight.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Did you see or I guess I don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I was listening to the postgame press conference with Sean
Payton and Parker Gabriel asked a great question like he
always does, and then Sean Payton goes on this rant
about hey, you always got something to write, but you
don't don't have anything to say, and I thought he
was talking about Parker.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I'm like, no way, he's trash at Parker. He was
not talking about Parker Gabriel.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
He was.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
He was Sean was talking about Mark Kisler.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I found that out earlier, earlier today. But I was like,
he can't be throwing Parker under the bus here.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, that was a weird That was a weird deal,
and honestly, Sean should be about that. Like, first of all,
who cares if somebody doesn't ask a question at the
press or they might not have anything to ask.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
There's a lot of those guys that ask questions just
to hear their voice and crazy, like I go to
I go to this press conferences.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I don't ask a lot of questions because I mean
I'll ask if I've got something that asks the there's
something I want to know. But you know, I mean
as far as that stuff goes, like, I don't ask
a lot of questions because a lot of.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Times it's just not something. I don't think I'm adding
anything to the conversation. I don't have anything that I
think adds to the Conversation's gonna cut you off? Your
question is no?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I mean there's been there have been times for a
half I mean, I love doing the ones with him
and George because then you can you can really get
into stuff like when they when you know, when the
special Teams rules changed to the new kickoff and I
like three or four we had a great repartee with that.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
But yeah, Sean Paigon's got to be above that. Don't
don't troll. I mean, I get it. You know, that's
casuless stick. That's what he is.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
That's that's who he's been love for, hate him, That's
just what he is. He's got to be above that
because now what happens is Mark Kisley knows, he knows
he's got your goat, and he's good, you know.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Now he knows you kind of like our guy Sean
Keeler up at CEU. Right, it's exactly same thing.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
So that's one of those things where I'm like, I
would not have if I were Sean Payton, I would
not have done that. It didn't really really do anything
for Sean Payton. Yeah, you know, I guess a couple
of social media people like that's a coach, But in reality,
all you did was let him know that you read
everything you know.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Let's get to the NFL sixpect. It's time for the
NFL six pack.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I'm gonna trade the last year insighted inside information you
can't find anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
No, the top six NFL headline one well, starting with
a coach that did not lose his job.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Quarterback Joe Burrow knows changes need to be made in Cincinnati.
None of those changes will include the twenty twenty five coaches.
Coach Zach Taylor told reporters earlier today that he plans
to make no changes to the staff. Those assistants ultimately
may be insulated by the same thing that has gotten
Taylor another year, despite only two playoff appearances in seven
years and three spirit years of no postseason verse the
(17:57):
money because the Bengals are cheap. It's always about the money.
Football is business. They only say football is family because
it's good for business to say.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Football is family.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
They don't want the fans to see it like the
black ink red ink reality that it is. They want
the fans to think they're trying to win the Super
Bowl every year, and that's just not the Bengals. For
all teams, it's about making as much money as possible,
and part of the effort to maximize profits is to
get fans to show up for games and buy overpriced stuff,
acting like they desperately want to hoist a Lombardi Trophy.
(18:28):
Trophy is simply part of the grip with thirty two teams.
Any owner who hinges on happiness on winning a championship
and setting themselves up for likely failure. The Bengals who
aren't operated by multi billionaires who can treat the football
team as a write off or a vanity project. The
football business is ownership's only business. If they fire a coach,
(18:48):
they owe him money. What do you think about Zach
Taylor not removing any of his assistant coaches?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
And do you agree that the Bengals are cheap?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Bengals are absolutely cheap.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
They have some of the biggest money problems in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
They're cheap. They have the smallest scouting staff by far.
They're just they are that, you know, that organization, and they.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Try to cut corners a lot of places, and there
were a lot of people that wondered how they were
gonna be able to pay Joe Burrow. They literally had
to sell naming rights that they didn't want to sell
in an effort to raise cash to be able to
to do that. In the NFL, if there is fully
guaranteed money in your contracts, when you sign that contract,
that money has to be put in escrow by the
NFL team within like two three weeks, like in cash.
(19:35):
So if you guarantee money, you have to have it
in cash already and then put that in escrow so
that it's there because it's guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
So yeah, a lot there are teams that have struggled
with that over the year. The Raiders now are flushed
with cash thanks to the move to Vegas, but they
used to be that team. The Chargers have historically been
a team that struggled, though they've gotten better since they moved.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
To La.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And of course the Bengals as far as the rest
of it goes with the coaching staff playing. If you
don't have to make any changes, would you? You're not
been more I was you and and the Bengals you
could call a chief, call it whatever, have incredible patience
when it comes to that. I mean, Martin Lewis coached
for what sixteen years and didn't get a playoff win.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yep, there you go. I mean, the Bars is the.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Well.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I mean, and to be fair, Martin Lewis took that
team from a joke to at least competitive, but you know,
you needed somebody to build off that, and they never
got there. Uh and they wasted some some years with
some real talent that they had. I mean there was
some there's a couple of teams there where they had
some pretty good receivers, running backs and and all that
kind of stuff. You know, the end of the day, though,
(20:35):
I mean, if you don't have to, don't you know,
I don't blame Zach Taylor for keeping all his dudes
if they're not making them.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I don't either.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
I mean, you know how close most of these coaching
staffs are.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Cost cost a guy in Arizona his job. Just a
prediction for you.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Do you think Joe Burrow will play his entire career
in Cincinnati or you think he will play somewhere else
in the near teacher, I.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Believe Joe Burrow will be a lifelong Bengal, the same
way Peyton Manning was a lifelong cult Tom Brady was
a lifelong Patriot, you know what I mean? Like I
believe that he'll be ay Bengal. For our best staffer
was a lifelong flight you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Like you were.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
You have a lengthy career somewhere and then you spend
the twilight years somewhere else, trying desperately to get you know,
to get one before you go.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Wow, who day.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Another coach who didn't lose their job, Shane Steiken. The
Colts lost eight of their last nine games in the
twenty twenty five season, but the team's reaction to the
way the season ended is more focused on their seven
and one start. Team owner Carly Ers Gordon addressed the
decision to retain both general manager Chris Ballard and head
coach Shane Stikeen at a press conference earlier today. She
(21:45):
said she was pleased without Ballard was more active in
pre agency in the trade market to put together the
roster that began the.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Season so well.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
The Colts believe that he's going to be able to
replicate what we were on our way to join and
that Stikeen is the right.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Person to coach that team.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Of course, the injuries to Daniel Jones and other key
players contributed to the Colt slide, but Ursa Gordon said,
we've got to be able to handle adversity better and
still find a way to win, and that the two
men know they have to do that immediately. Well, there'll
be a playoffs or departure next year for the Colts
GM and the head coach maybe.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
And part of the reason that they stuck around and
I thought Ballard might be out. I knew Stichen was
gonna be out, but Ballard might be out. And the
reason that I thought that was, you know, down the
stretch collapse and and the roster in and of itself
they were humming before injuries just decimated.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I mean, that's that's really what happened.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
At the end of the day, once they lost the
quarterback Daniel Jones, it was just all downhill from there.
Then they had problems, you know, with the Charver's ward
and concussions you had, you just had too many injuries
to deal with, and that that ultimately was it. They
got to figure out if they bringing Alex Pearce and
Daniel Jones back and all that kind of stuff. But
I believe they'll bring Daniel Jones back, that's the question.
But you know, end of the day, I'm not surprised
(22:59):
shans Sty wasn't fired. I mean they were that thing
was hummed. He was cooking when they had everything in place.
Did you see that Alec Peters ejection? I think totally ludicrous. Absolutely.
I mean he technically made contact, but it was accident,
all right, Yeah it wasn't a Dre greenlowins.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah. Three.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Well, another coach that seems to be safe.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Mike McDaniel, he's not closing the door on Tua tag
of I Looa's return or sees a twenty twenty six
QB competition. Tua said on earlier today that a fresh
star elsewhere would be dope.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
The Dolphins, though, have not.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Decided on the quarterback's future. Mike McDaniel said he will
meet with Tua tomorrow morning at eight Eastern times. The
coach said he would not close the door on Tua's return.
First things first, I don't think anybody understands what it
would be like to be through the ringer like he has.
McDaniel said he'll have to work to get back to
the results that were used to seeing Dolphins bench two
(23:56):
after a week fifteen loss with rookie's seventh round pick
Quinn were starting the final two games to US sixteen
hundred and sixty passing yards, where his US since twenty
twenty one and his fifteen interceptions.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Were a career high.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Yours looks pretty good in those two starts. What do
you think the future for Tula looks like?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Is it in Miami? No, it's not Miami.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
They'll move on from him and Tyreek Hill and you know,
I don't know if quinn Ewers is necessarily the guy,
but he'll be in the mix. Yeah, Miami's gonna reset
Mike McDaniel coach his way back into his job. They're
trying to hire a GM that knows him. They got
like three of the guys from the forty nine ers
in there to you know, to interview. They get they
get the salter from Green Bay, and I think they
(24:38):
got a couple of the guys on their their GM list,
but they're bringing in three guys from San Francisco. You know,
they kind of know that hole, that system an organization
and with the players. You know, with pint of players,
you need all that kind of stuff. And I think
they're trying to set this thing up for Mike McDaniel
to be as successful as possible.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
But to it and Tyreek Hill will be gone.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Poor all time, bron goes great and current commander's edge
rusher Von Miller, I'm not ready to hang him up yet.
He had a sack and Sunday's win over the Eagles,
giving him nine for the season. It was the edge
rusher's most sacks since he had nine and a half
and twenty twenty one. Miller, who is thirty six years old,
has one hundred and thirty eight and a half sacks
(25:17):
in his career, which ties in with the Marcus Ware
for the ninth most since sacks became an official stat
in nineteen eighty two. He's only three and a half
from ranking sixth all time. Miller said earlier today he
wants to continue his career and he hopes that means
a return to the Commanders. Miller, though, will become a
free agent in March. He said, I'll be thirty seven
years old in March. I think I proved to myself
(25:40):
I can play another year. I want to be here,
but I'm not in a position to start making demands
and saying where I want to play, where I want
to be at. Do you think von Miller has another
year left in Washington.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I don't know if necessarily it's in Washington. I do
believe he's got there's some left in the tank. We
saw that he had a pretty decent year overall when
he got you know, extra blank time as a pass
rush specialist. I don't think he's an every down player anymore.
I think he's a guy that if you're in third
and eight plus, you put him in there to get
after the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
But you know, I think there's still a little something
left in the tank.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
And certainly I think you can see a maturity from
him and the way that he approaches the game now
versus you know, maybe you know, maybe he's more the
DeMarcus ware type now than he was the Von Miller
type early in Von Miller's career. I think that maturity
from him goes a long way. He's an older statesman
in the league. There's you know, his get carries a
lot of weight.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
In the locker room.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Not be surprised if he's on somebody's roster, whether that's
Washington or not. Who need to retool their entire you know,
senior citizen defense.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
You think there could be one last reunion with Denver
on that?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I don't believe. I don't think. I mean, because who
are you taking off the field to put von Miller
on there?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Do you really you're really taking Cooper who you're paying
like Benito, who you're paying jonah Ellis, who you're bringing
up Telby, who's been successful? I mean, I Kean Robinson,
who in flashes looked really good. I don't I think
you're tak any of those guys off the field to
pay von Miller what it would take to bring him
in as a third down specialist.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Five.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Speaking of pass rushers from one of the all time
greats to one of the current greats, Max Crosby. He
addressed the Pete Carroll firing earlier today on the Let's
Go podcast. He said, I haven't had time to really
process it, to be honest, I just found out. I'm
here in the building and I literally see it pop
up on the TV. It was kind of gloomy. I
would say it's something that I've been a part of before.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Just to speak on Pete.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
This season didn't go the way we expected it at all,
from the players to the coaches. I don't think anybody
expected we would be in this position from getting the
number one pick, to be honest, But I will say,
you know, the one thing I did admire about Pete
is he was I mean, consistent as they come. He
has won for such a long time. He's a super
Bowl champion, national champion at USC. He has been an
(27:51):
incredible coach and he has had an incredible journey. Give
me the details on the Pete Carroll firing, because I
can't believe it was one and done. And do you
think Max Crosby is a Raider next year after they
benched him down the stretch?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I kind of do, because I think it's going to
be Brian Flores there and I think he'll he'll want
to be a.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Part of that, so I think that may salvage that.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
That's sand I mean, the Raiders have fired five coaches
in five years since twenty twenty since twenty twenty one,
excuse me, John Gruden, Rich Bassaccia, Josh McDaniels, Antonio Pierson,
now Pete Carroll.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
That's five coaches in five years. That is the heights
of instability, and that's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I mean, Brian Flores may take that job because he
probably not gonna gettle their jobs while he's sew.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
In the league.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
But you need if you're taking that job, you definitely have.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Got to get like a five six year deal from
them to give yourself the security to be able to
be there. As far as the Raider situation goes, Tom
Brady was the guy who brought in Pete Carroll. He's
the guy that brought in Chip Kelly. That was a
forced marriage. That was not Pete Carroll's idea. He wanted
one of his guys. The chip Kelly thing definitely didn't
work out.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Pete Carroll kind of brought in his kids.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I mean, Brennan Carroll's the offensive line coach, and it
was the offensive line was bad despite an infusion of talent,
and Pete wouldn't fire or move his son to anything else,
which you know, that's one of those things that, like,
there's something to be ceper standing up for you guys,
and then there's something to be said for hey man,
I get that you want to work as your kid,
but maybe he's a control gout quality control guy, you know,
(29:15):
and not the offensive line coach. So it was just
a bad situation all the way around. And you know
Tom Brady who had his sight set on Ben Jonhnson.
Ben Johnson was never coming to the Raiders. He was
always going to Chicago. Used the Raiders for contract leverage,
you know, So that's kind of the thing. So I
think you could probably go to see.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Brian Flores with maybe Brian Dables his offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
There.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Other options do include Vans, Joseph six okay Man.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Brown's quarterback Deshaun Watson did not play in twenty twenty
five or recovering from a second torn achilles, but he
remains with the club and is still under contract through
next season.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Weill Cleveland needs a new coach.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Club could, in theory, played Watson at quarterback if he's healthy.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Enough to do so.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Is Watson and the team's plans for next year, Well, first,
I'll say that we're very pleased with how Deshaun went
through and attacked his rehab this past year, how engaged
he was with the team, what he did in the
meeting rooms. General manager Andrew Barry said earlier today, very
pleased with the progress that he made in that regard. Look,
I can't I can never predict the future, but right
(30:19):
now we do anticipate him being on the twenty twenty
sixteen but we have a long way to go before
we get to that point with any player. Brown's owner
Jimmy Haslam, who we were talking about earlier, admitted back
at the league meeting last March that the team took
a big swing and miss with the Watson trade. No kidding,
Do you expect Watson to be on the roster for
(30:39):
the Browns in twenty twenty six and when we see
him play.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
In a game, Well, I he'll be on the roster
by virtue of feel the money the rest of it.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't even know if we
get any play time. Shawn Watson is what eight, there's
nine and ten as a starter for the Browns.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
You know, in three three years since he's he's been there,
well four years, I guess included if you include this year.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
But he didn't play.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Uh, he's thirty years old. I mean he has he's
thrown Uh what is it for for nineteen touchdowns? I
think since he's been in uh in Cleveland, nineteen total
touchdowns of the course of four years to twelve interceptions,
he hasn't had a quarterback rating above forty five into
the QBR.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I just I think they'll just move on from that.
He's just there for Kappadomics.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I appreciate you guys been along for varad here in
Broncos Country tonight, buff Prime.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Time up next, Harel Cantway.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
How could you do that, Andrew? How could you do it?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
That's malarkey.
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