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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bright to the KWA Commas Spirit Health hotline and talk
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to our guy from the uh never poast, Sean Keeler,
and Sean did you you made it through Mordor he
made it back from Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I did.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
It was only only a few runs of bruises to
show for it.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
It was all right.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I appreciate your tolerance for a little border talk on
the wrong side of Ogalla there. That was. That was
a long evening.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, you know, we uh you know, we wanted to
make sure that you had thrown the ring into the
furnace there and and made it back to UH respectability.
You had something interesting out earlier today, and I want
to get to that because we just see in news
now the Washington quarterback who's University of Washington quarterback who
signed an Nile deal four days ago.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
It is now bailing on them to go somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
But your lunch linked today, No allegians, no money, Buff
boosters thought, see you. Buff's ad Fernando Lavovo said the
right things. It's intro but some don't want to donate
more money to a collegiate game that's headed in the
wrong direction. I have in total lockstep with you on this,
But for the listeners, why don't you explain where you're
coming from.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
It's free agency everywhere. I think the case you mentioned
with that Washington kid is like case and points of
where this thing is going and a lot of what
you have is and this is where Fernandelolo seems like
a way younger than me. It's just crazy. It seems
like a very accomplished young professional coming into a very
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tough position. And not just a tough position, it's see you.
It's tough to see you for a number of reasons
which we can get into, but it's tough in the
game right now because what you have is a lot
of young men and their representatives and women to some
degree too, who are looking to get rich really quick.
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Also of a free market, and you are being told
I will stay if you pay me basically, and that's
going on just to boulderbread everywhere, and a lot of
boosters going I'm tapped out? Who are and a lot
of these boosters are over fifty. Let's be real and
are looking at this and where this where the life
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is gone. In NCAA Sports after the House NCAA settlement,
which is you know, made revenue sharing legal to cut
right to the chase after you know, one hundred years
of it being the other way around. The pendulum instructs
so hard the other way towards player power that a
lot of boosters and a lot of markets, not Texas
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Tech and not Oregon are really really, really really frustrated
and tapped out because schools and this is what Fernanda
Lobo is going to have to do. This is what
Rick George was doing, This is what John Weber's doing
at CSU is they have to keep going back to
these alumni and saying more and more and more and
more more. I need twenty two million to pay my
athletes next year. I need twenty three million to two years.
It's it's absurd. And the real estate bubble burst, the
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tech bubble burst. I'm just curious where the nil slash
revenue sharing bubble bursts and the NCAA because it's coming
and I'm sorry that's a long answer, but it's it's deep.
It's not good.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So, son, how is it that Lovo I mean and
coach prime because you got to think that these two
guys would be joined at the hip and things look
different with Rick George.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I think the biggest thing.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I'm wondering how these two guys are going to coexist,
but more importantly, how are they going to coexist and
handle this twenty seven million dollar deficit that the program has, right.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And that's the other shoe, And the twenty point five
million that has been set aside for revenue sharing is
a big bulk of that twenty seven million. Right. It's
just basic math. I don't know. It's is there an
oil well that somebody could Can someone just write a
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five million dollar check right now? If not more? Got
they're going to get They're getting Yeah, they got yeah,
selfish got it? Fine. There's some truth in that because
I didn't get into this in the colendar references, but
in talking to two or three alumni who are there
at the Logo news conference yesterday, a couple of them
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said to me, well, you know, Travis Hunter is making
a lot of money. She heard Sanders is making a
lot of money. I think you would behoove them, since
their names are on the day building, to start writing
some jests for us and give this back because we
don't have And this is a problem. It's the issue too,
not just see you. It's a problem in a lot
of places is we don't have a big oil baron who,
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at least right now, who is running in and just
giving us insane money, giving us you know, baseball, pitch
your money, you know whatever, great Maddocks money, you know,
to solve this, because yeah, twenty seven million is a
real thing, and they're gonna have to dip into university
funds to balance it. I think they intend to balance
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it with university funds. But that's student fees, that's student
money and undergrads who didn't necessarily sign up to do
this to help pay for Dan Sanders. That's a sip.
And it's tax that's there's some tax money in there too.
In some places that's a slippery slope when you're getting
from church general university funding. So yeah, again it's not
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just Fernando at CU. This is a tricky position for
I think most power for ads because Ohio State's in
the red at the last report. I mean, very few
schools that aspire to be where they want to be
are running in running in the black right now, and
that's where the sport is. And that goes back to
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my previous long winded answer, because paying the players isn't
going away, and you almost need some other way to
do that. And see you, if it's not in an
oil world, maybe it's equity, an equity firm, which is
what Utah just did. Basically say hey, we're a private
we're going to privatize our athletic department and let you
help us invest in it and donated it. I mean
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those are your two options.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Well, yeah, I talked with Sean Healer from the diver pos.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Not everybody is Texas Tech and has got a Cody
Campbell with the Matadora club there.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
You know, it is just shelling out money, you know,
in terms of that.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I mean Texas Tech had a record breaking fundraising year
last year when they got donors to contribute two hundred
and thirty six million dollars. See, you and CSU are
just not in that that stratosphere at all.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
No, and and you're playing pet shops at a game
where where the guardrails are very limited and often tested.
There's no Commissioner of college football to walk in here
and say, no, this is what we do. This is
how we get some kind of I don't want to
say parody, but some kind of logic to this and
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guardrails the term that already comes back to, and I
don't think we're gonna get that. I think we're still
this becomes the next crack in what becomes that Premier
League has been talked about or whatever you want to
call it, separate super league of those that can pay
for this stuff and those that can't, because the team
money is going to just funnel up to those forty
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or fifty brands that matter too, so they don't. And
we laughed at the time a little bit about the
whole the former CU assistant who was sending emails to
Saudi the crown prints of Saudi Arabia. You know, they
all kind of raise our eyebrows a little bit at that.
For a lot of reasons. I think that's still going
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on in a lot of places because of the financial
realities we're talking about. It's stupid money, and everyone's got
to figure out how to pay for it, and they don't.
They got to figure out how to pay for it.
And this is Lobo's challenge, as it is for everybody.
Without cutting sports and without cutting staff, it's math is math, budgets, budgets.
The general capitalists right now tends to like to cut staff,
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to cut overhead to make these things happen. See you,
I think you guys correct me if I'm wrong, only
has twelve or thirteen sports right now, or at least
the minimum of men's sports. Like, they don't have a
lot of room of where the NCAA regulations are right
now to cut things at least in terms of sports.
So yeah, good luck. It's tricky and I don't end
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be them in that regard.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
So Sam, when we look at the transport portal, and
Nil's obviously be talking about that, it is definitely transform
college football and college sports as a whole. When you
look at what coach prim has done in the portal,
and we know last season wasn't obviously it didn't go. Wait,
everyone thought, what do you think about some of the
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players that they have acquired so far in the transfer portal.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I think you talk about the bowling green lightbacker today,
you talk about Skidero with San Jose State, the kid
at Miami at Ohio. I think you've got some gems.
You're building kind of a group of four, group of five. Sorry,
you're building kind of a group of five all star team,
which wasn't crazy dissimilar from two years ago and two
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portal windows ago. You know, do you want have to
know fool? He knows what worked and getting a lot
of stars. The John Jay Western the key one of those.
He was great at FAU. I had a Blitznekoff vote
when he was at FAU. I voted for him twice,
once as an OWL at Florida Atlantic and then again
when he came to see you. Because he's just dynamic.
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There's a reason he's a pro. I think there's an
upper class bend to this. A group of five been
to this that they want to get guys who are
at the end of their careers and largely developed. I
think this is the linebacker guy in the ESPN's is ZLB.
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I mean, how could he not play for Dedon Sanders.
He's I think this is his third school. I think
he started at Dayton, so he's almost like the we
talked about the Washington guy being an archetype for kind
of where the finances are going with this. This guy's
kind of like coming from Dayton to Bowling Green to
see you is sort of like where this developmental process
for a lot of college athletes is going. Where they
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see this, it becomes like minor league baseball, and a
lot of these smaller schools can't keep these guys, or
a lot of the mid size the bigger group of
fives come sweep in and you know, big fish just
eat from the little fish and on down the line.
So there's some there's some prospects there. There's some lineman
I'm not so sure about. We'll see, but there's some
skill guys. There's some flash guys. There's some names, and
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we'll see how quickly they gell because that's always the
case when you're getting two thirds year roster from the
portal every year.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Talk Sean Keener from the Denver Poe's last one from me.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
You know, there's been quite an exodus in terms of
the transfer portal. I think Omri and Miller is probably
the biggest name, you know, with all that, but there
are some great players that left too, I mean byered,
you know, hitting the portal you had and the ones
that concerned me, specifically McPherson and David Swaying, the two
defensive linemen, as well as a.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Bevy of other players. The margins are thinner now.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I mean when Dion came to Colorado, the idea was,
you know, a lot of transfer portal type stuff, and
that wasn't really I mean it was, it wasn't that
long ago, but that wasn't really the way anybody did it.
Now everybody's doing it that way. The margins and finner.
They're going to have to get a developmental thing going
at some point.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Right, Yeah, we've talked about that that you got to
the trouble with this, and I'm this looks like it's
gonna be a good portal class. Yeah, it's also gonna
be a good class on just bulk because they have
to get fifty guys right to fill out the rockster.
At this point, I think only had thirty one or
thirty five something scholarship players when this portal window opened,
so there was a plan to do this. I don't
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think a majority of your rosters transfers. As we've talked about,
it's sustainable, and I don't think it's good for building
offense to the defensive lines. They proved me wrong two
years ago on that front. They kind of proved me
wrong this way this last year. The offensive line wasn't
noise the problem, but depth was. And I think we've
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talked about this maybe last month or a couple months
ago that while you're signing there, it just gets to
be very top heavy, star heavy, and the Buffs were
a little top heavy last year less years ago. I
worry with this class you will just many accomplished upperclass
when they're coming in. Then it's still gonna look pretty
top heavy that you can do whatever. What happens to
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go to Northwestern is raining in Evanston, sunny Evanston, which
you know it's not. And somebody pulls a hamstring in
this new star ESPN linebacker Twist's acl. I don't know
who you got playing behind him, you know what I mean.
I think that's where the prime method is failing most
significantly right now. You hope you'll get tested that way,
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but we will see because it's a long season and
some of that stuff is inevitable. So hey, if they
stay healthy, yeah, this could be a ball team on paper.
If they don't, I don't know about that depth, guys,
and I think that's the problem with building the way
they choose to build and reload.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Jem, we got about sixty seconds here, but I definitely
had to ask you this question because I was at
the game on Sunday and there was a very frustrated
and power feel. More so, I've seen the stadium and
I hadn't seen it all season.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Like like boo, the team in fourteen and three, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Team winning, Yes, a number one seed on the line,
and at fourteen and three, I mean, what did you
think about the fan base bullying this team.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
It's not my money, but I can see from an
aesthetics standpoint, and certainly from an offensive standpoint, and absolutely
from a red zone standpoint, that's justifiable. The only defense
that bronc here's where the Broncos can fight those boots back.
And you guys are probably talking about this. This has
been a lot of vanilla these last two weekends. Given
the stakes, they need to show that playbook's got something
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and got it where it counts. I think they're three
from their last nine in the red zones. Just score touchdowns.
Let's make this simple. Score touchdowns. People won't do the end.
Everybody advances we're going to Santa Clara.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
They're good right, Well, yeah, I mean at the end
of the day, at the end of the day, score
points win games, and that takes care of all. But
certainly certainly a fascinating phenomenon there. I think as we
watched uh in this offense, which again has been sort
of that way, especially through three quarters almost all year
for the Broncos, but hoping we turned that around in
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the play of Seawan. We appreciate it as always, Sean Keeler,
Denver Post. Always love having you all, brother, Thanks guys,
good night to you. Absolutely take care Sean Taylor from
the Denver Post and as can follow once, we always
love having him on. Plagued the innis see you and
and and of course around any one of the better
columnists inte certainly not a guy that's uh uh, you know,
not looking Sean Payton in the eyes and uh uh
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asking questions at press conferences.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Oh what what's that of?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Reference to bit different columnists in town. Courageonly typed who
formerly of the Post and.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Can't really look someone in the eye? You didn't, Sean
postgame presser, No I missed some of it.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, after Parker Gabriel asked a question and then he
turned over to the other side here and started popping
off saying, you know you speak.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
That was Mark Ki. Several people that reached out, that
reached out of.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
The internet, was that you you And I'm like, no,
I know, I don't ask too many questions.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
First of all, I've never had a problem look at
somebody in the eye, and he would never say that
to me.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, I remember hearing that, but I was, But I
too was like, well who was he talking to?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yeah, yeah, that was to Mark Kislow.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Interesting whatever, whatever problems there are, you know whatever, Sean
sean Paper never said that to me.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
So, uh, anyway, we got an NFL six PAC, we
come back.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
It's me guys, uh texting in like Kevin sean On
appreciate that a couple of texts from earlier asking you
VJ still in a contract at the Broncos next season.
I don't believe he is. I think his contracts up
at the end of this year. I'd have to double
check on that. I think his contract is up.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I don't expect him back any which way, but we'll see.
We'll see how that goes. And enjoys certainly the time
that we had with that. Let's get to NFL six PAC.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Time for the NFL six path. I'm going to train
a lot of beer insight.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
That insight information you can't find anywhere else.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
The top six NFL headlines, what.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Es actually going to start with something that's not NFL
because this one is bugging me, and it leads into look,
I'm all for players having autonomy secured in the bag
then all that kind of stuff, But the University of
Washington has an issue right now and they're planning to
enforce the contract they have with Demand Williams, and he's
announced that he has decided to enter the transfer portal
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four days after signing.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
A new deal with the University of.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Washington and just taking the money and running. Look, I'm
all for players to have an autonomy, but signing a
deal four days ago and then turning around.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
And announcing that you're leaving while your entire team and
coaching staff are attending the memorial Mia Hammond.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
A student athlete star goalkeeper at the University of Washington
who died back in November from cancer.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
It was very popular there.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Everybody's attending her funeral, and you decide to drop at
that moment, your attention.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
To leave while whilst taking this money with you.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
After signing a contrast just strikes me is weird and
frankly wrong. What were you doing signing a deal four
days ago and then trying to leave. The terms of
the deal haven't exactly been disclosed yet, and obviously he's
coming off a strong season. They wanted to keep him
right now. Washington has been in contact with the Big
Ten about the situation and that conference drafts revshare agreement
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contracts for its league members and described Williams deal as
a finding agreement with the school and it's worked only
the Big Ten back to Wisconsin last year went forward
Badger's defenders Savior Lucas withdrew from the university year Rold
of Miami. Lucas did not enter the transfer portal. Washington
said he signed a two year NIL agreement, and then
Lucas alleged that Washington, which is Wisconsin rather would not
enter his name in the portal.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Lucas took league action.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
He signed famed sports attorney Darren Hener the representative Washington
Wisconsin suit. Miami um filed the motion dismiss that that
lawsuit is still ongoing.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
What do you think about this?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I mean, it's the wild West right now with the
NIL and all these NIL deals and everything else. But
what are you doing changing your mind four days after
you signed a deal and then dropping this on social media,
while you know everybody involved is in a funeral for
somebody who died from cancer.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Like, really, but.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It happened, was that I wanted to get more money.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I want to lie down the deal then have.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
An opportunity to jump to another team to try to
put more money in my pocket. Because as it stands
right now, Benjamin Albright, there's not a lot of rules,
regulations and policies that are preventing me from doing this.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
So other players have done this.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, albeit the situation looks really ugly, but it's all
about doing what's best for me and my family.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
But don't you think that's like the biggest lack of
awareness moment ever? Like, if this dude makes it to
the NFL, his Madden rating on awareness is going to
be zero because what a bad look like this is.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
This just paints you in a horrible light. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
It's just it's just a bad look all the way across.
And I mean, normally I don't want to get too
weep in the weeds on this, but man is in
I also, we've got to get a regulating body on
it somewhere. If you're signing contracts to play somewhere, you.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Want to be a pro.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You sign a contract to play somewhere.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
You gott to honor your contracts.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Right.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
You'd expect the university to honor it, would you.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Very Speaking of honoring contracts, I guess they technically honored
It's Packers quarterback Clayton Tuone got a chance to show
what he could do on Sunday and meetingless Week eighteen game.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
I guess the Packers didn't really like.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
What they saw, because today Tuone was released forty eight
hours after going six to eleven for a mere thirty
four yards and a sixteen three loss to the Vikings.
The Packings turn, the Packers signed Desmond Ritter, who has
a history of being terrible in games, as well, to
add the active roster from the practice squad. Ritter is
going to be the third quarterback for the playoffs, by
Jordan Love and Malik Willis. Sunday was Tune's second career start.
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He also started a game for the Cardinals in twenty
twenty three. For his career, Tune is twenty one to
thirty eight, one hundred and twelve yards, no touchdowns, three interceptions,
and a passer rating of twenty seven point seven. Like
why would you roll a guy out there if you
were going to do that? Like, why why you even
do that? Why roll a guy out there for one
game and then cut him to bring another guy on.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Because you can't.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
It's the same reason why teams bring in players who
were on another team that they're playing and get all
the information out of them and then kick them to
the curve.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Just guy, you can get the right You played him,
You had him roll out there for an entire game.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
You know he sunk for practice before the stinks.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Listen, man, it doesn't always look great. Isn't that what
we told We just need to put someone up to.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Just dress him up.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Man, We're just trying to get to the next game.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
You get thirty four passing yards. Hey, this is hey.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
They call the football business, not business and football Chris.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Alutaka and tripled this guy up and matches Patrick.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Mahomes's voice perfectly. There you go, fair enough?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Do you think Milake Willis is going to be a
starting quarterback somewhere in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Now?
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I think he's gonna get some looks.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Man.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
I mean, I'm gonna be honest like that.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Dude has come a long way since those Tennessee Days three.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Uh, here's one for you.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Jason Garrett, speaking to Tennessee, will interview for the Titans
head coaching job. Titan's job search will include the coach
that guided the early years of Dak Prescott's career. In
inter rapaport reporting, former Cowboys coach Chasse and Garrett will
interview for the job. Garrett, part of the three Super
Bowl winning teams the Cowboys back in the nineties, coached
the Cowboys from twenty eleven to twenty nineteen, and the
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interim coach during the twenty ten season, taking.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Over weight Phillips.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
His regular season record eighty five and sixty seven, three
playoff appearances, two and three in the postseason.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
He did win NFL's.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Coach of the Year in twenty sixteen, the year that
started with veteran quarterback Tony Romo being unavailable, opening the
door for Dak Prescott, then a fourth round rookie, to
lead the team to a thirteen and three record. Garrett
then worked as an offensive coordinator for the Giants in
twenty and twenty one, joined the NBC Sports in twenty
twenty two, where he's been sitting next to Mike Florio
every Sunday during football season, probably explains his desire to
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find a new job. I don't think he's actually in
contention here, but I'm going to drop a little nugget
in a minute. I want to hear what you guys
think about Jason Garrett interviewing for the Titans job.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I think it makes sense because we see every single year,
as always someone who's a surprise interview that we did
not expect.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I mean, we've seen Josh.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
McCown over the years, Hines Ward over the years, and
we all spots on our hands like what the heck
are they doing?
Speaker 4 (22:22):
But the idea that Jason Garrett is on.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Television, he talks about football a lot for some owners
and may make them feel as though, well, this person
really knows football. All you have to do is go
back and look at the guy resume and that tells
you everything you need to know.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
The difference between McCown and hines Ward, though, was they
had no resume, where Jason Garrett very clearly does. By
the way, and this is the nugget'll drop, Jason Garrett.
That's former Broncos mystery candidate Jason Garrett. Oh really, Jason
Garrett was the other name in the coaching search that
ultimately led to Sean Payton.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
That was the mystery candidate after they'd exhausted their options.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
We guess after Harball decided to go back to Michigan,
Demiko Ryans found out about their pursuit of Horrorball at
All to Know went to Houston. Dan Quinn told him no,
that he's going back to Dallas, and it left Sean
Payton and a mystery candidate.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
And the mystery candidate was Jason Garrett.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
I'm just glad that he won't have to wear makeup
anymore because that dude they are taking it on him
for those NBC Sunday Night football Broadkay the Clapper, it.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Is too much?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
It is Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna text him
and say that Christmas as you wear too much makeup.
With that four, John Horbaugh becomes the instant betting favorite
for the Giants. Job I Boll landed on the coaching
market the betting markets and quickly responded the instant favorite
to be the new head coach of the Giant with
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odds of plus one fifty. The prior favorite yesterday was
Kevin Stefanski at plus one seventy five Harball eight to
one to become the coach of the Titans. I'm gonna
tell you now, he won't do that. Ten to one
become the coach of the Browns. Plus six fifty for
the Falcons. I might sprinkle that one and plus four
to fifty for the Raiders. I would not touch that
one with anyone else's money. And it would be awkward
to say, at least if he did land with the Raiders,
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given that the Ravens are widely believed to have instigated
the deflate Gates scandal of twenty fifteen by telling the
cold stand the Patriots and quarterback Tom Brady. We're using
deflated football's Tom Brady, of course, the minority owner leading
the search there. So there is that. I do believe
he'll coach. I don't believe he'll be involved with Raiders Arizona.
I may interview in Tennessee. I don't think that's going
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to happen. The Giants of the Falcons I think are
the landing spots for him unless one of the two
Florida jobs, Miami or Tampa opens up, and I think
he would take one of those if they open up.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
So the question to you is where do you guys
think Harbolo ends up?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Not sure where he ends up, but if he's really
thinking about a place to really jump and revitalize his career,
the Falcon's job looks pretty good because once again you're
looking at how much money they have.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
He had just had to get over that.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
But more importantly, what division you're in and what's the
long term future outlook. We know Autor Blank wants to
hire a coach that he can look at and say, well,
this guy has a well to do resume that makes
me feel comfortable, So that would be a good landing
spots form.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
I don't know where he's gonna end up.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
I think the Falcons should be the betting favorite, but I.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Would love to see him go to Cleveland and revitalize
that franchise. Stick it to the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
The Ravens and the Browns do have the opportunity to
do the funniest thing ever and trade coaches, basically firing
Stefanski went to Baltimore and Hart. I don't think either
one of those are gonna happen. But if Harball went
to Cleveland, is Stefanski with the Baltimore that would.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Be I think that would be personal hilarious, but that's
just me.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
That five oh see here, Speaking of Stefanski, he's gonna
interview with the Giants on Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Clint Kubiak get some more on the Giants.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Cardinals, and Raiders have requested interviews for Clint Kobiac as
well as Atlanta Uh. Kubiak, of course, joined Mike McDonald's
staff this past season help the Seahawks finish third in
the League of points scored. He was the offensive coording
to New Orleans the previous year. He's worked for the Niners, Broncos,
and Vikings. Early you're in his career arrable for devailable
for virtual interviews this week because the Seahawks have the five,
Sam reason Banson and Davis Webbar as well. I do
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believe Clint Kubiak is going to wide up with a job.
He's another one that could be very much in line
for the Falcons. And the key there is that the
Falcons have hired a search firm, Sportsology, and the guy
in that search firm that's heading that up as a
guy by the name of Rick Smith, who was the
general manager of the Houston Texans who just happened to
employ his head coach when he was the general manager.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
One Gary Kubiak.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
H see, that would be a good will to do
grouping because you need to make sure you're head coach
and your GM is there on the same page, and
you have familiarity with the scheme, familiarity with individuals who
were older Kolbiac So, I mean, you gotta have the right
(26:55):
ingredients if you're.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Going to make a nice gumbo.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
You know.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
I wouldn't be shocked.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
This reminds me a lot of Ben Johnson for a
couple of years in Detroit. I think if he doesn't
like what some of the offers he gets, he'll just
go back to Seattle for another year and wait on
another six or seven openings next year. But the Atlanta,
the Atlanta situation sounds like it makes love sense.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
If if far Ball were to take the Giant's job,
I think it'd be him and Stefanski for the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
We'll see see how that shakes out.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Six.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
The Dolphins have.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Had another name to their list of general manager candidates,
and this one is an eyebrow raiser, Jeremy Fowler reporting
from ESPN that they've requested an interview with Chargers assistant
GM Chad Alexander. Alexander joined the Chargers, of course, after
they hired John Harball in general manager Joe Horritz out
of the twenty twenty four season. He's previously with the
Jets as their director of player Personnel. He spent his
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first two decades in the Ravens organization. The Dolphins have
requested other interviews, but this one is interesting because he
has many many ties to John Harball and interviewing now
in the Dolphins job where Mike McDaniel currently sits as
they had coach. But if they were able to slide
Harball away and bring his preferred general manager in here,
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maybe that changes things. Do you believe that the Miami
Dolphins would fire Mike McDaniel now to bring in Harball
and chat Alexander?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
But he's in on the GM search right. He is
not in on the GM search.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Despite saying so, well, Stephen Ross has already showed that
he's willing to do whatever it takes.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
I mean, there were there.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Are allegations for Brian Flores that he was being somewhat
I guess incentivized to position the team in order to
move up the pick to a tongue of a lawyer.
So and man, when you see other teams doing well,
you want to get to wherever they are, and sometimes
that means you sacrifice more than ethics to get to
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that point. So it wouldn't be shocking to me if
that was the case, because at the end of the day,
you're trying to win fucking ball games, right, You're trying
to run football games.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
And if that means that you had.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
To buy your one guy to go get another guy,
then guess what happens.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Absolutely might do it the stream in the podcast.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
You gotta have fun with that. You know you didn't.
I had the dumb but we got him.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
This party is probably swear all the air.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
I said, freaking you just off, sir.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Oh boy, somebody has already gotten into the six PACKY
didn't think you.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Drank, but yeah, Martin Hard, I never thought again another
contail for the group over there. Appreciate Yeah, thank hard it.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Here we are talking about the bridge quarterbacks for.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Certain teams next year. What about to for the Jets?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
He he will definitely be available, he will he will
one be available and uh, I would not be surprised
if that was a There.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
A possibility with the Jets as a bridge quarterback after
having your favorite quarterback in Justin Fields.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Yeah, I know, two for two Arizona.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Another place he could potentially be a quarterback is they're
going to be moving on for Kyler Murray.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
They really don't have anything there right now.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
There's gonna be some depending on how things shake out there,
that could be a possibility as well.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
One other question for you on the head coaching hires,
what about Jesse Mentor going back to Baltimore as a
head coach.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I believe that that's probably what's going to happen with
an offensive coordinator of Cliff Kingsbury. How about him getting
let go? He that was a mutual to say, they
both wanted out, the mutual parting of the way.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
How quick things can change in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Then, yeah, that was that was one of those things
that was was coming.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
That's crazy because Jess, a year ago you had everything
was going well with Jane Daius and everyone was puffing
their fist, high five, bumping chess, and then all of
a sudden you moved a year two.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Things don't go well.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
To think that the coordinator had his play call and
duties removed, Daan Quinn took over, and now Cliff Kingsbury,
who had an opportunity after the first year to get
another job even in college football, opted.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
To stay only to have the MUSERU party of the ways,
I think.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I think Dan Quinn wants people that are focused on
the Washington Commanders and don't have an eye on their
next job, and I think it rubbed him the wrong
way that Cliff Kingsbury felt like he always had his
eye on the next job.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
Any truth to the rumors of a lot of offensive
players being upset by that mutual party nine, I.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Would say, there's like some of that, but I think,
you know, I think there's they'll be fine. I think
there's you know, everybody has attachments to things and stuff
like that, but I don't think that that will be
you know, in the same way that some of these
players right now are saying that they're sorry that Todd
Munkin and John Harbor are gone.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
They ran them out.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
It was either Lamar or Harball because Harball was sticking
by Mounkin, and Mounkin and Lamar been feuding for weeks.
So you know, in fact, that Baltimore Sun article that
came out that talked about Lamar, you know, not being
lazy in a sleep at practices and not practicing with
the teams about the off season. The source for that
is you guessed it h Todd Munkin, So you know
that that's where that that's where that came from. And
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that was always you know, uh, the front office of
the Ravens didn't want to fire horriball.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
It was.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
It was the owner who did it against their objection itself.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
He was Sadi yep is it Biscotti because Bishatishatiscottishati.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
He like bis golf kid cookies. We're not believe in
this part of croncous country tonight. You can't wait.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
You never go commando and another man's fatigue.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
My boys and your boys, we don't hang out, soun
Bright to the KWA Commas Spirit Health hotline and talk
(00:02):
to our guy from the uh never poast, Sean Keeler,
and Sean did you you made it through Mordor he
made it back from Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I did.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
It was only only a few runs of bruises to
show for it.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
It was all right.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I appreciate your tolerance for a little border talk on
the wrong side of Ogalla there. That was. That was
a long evening.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, you know, we uh you know, we wanted to
make sure that you had thrown the ring into the
furnace there and and made it back to UH respectability.
You had something interesting out earlier today, and I want
to get to that because we just see in news
now the Washington quarterback who's University of Washington quarterback who
signed an Nile deal four days ago.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
It is now bailing on them to go somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
But your lunch linked today, No allegians, no money, Buff
boosters thought, see you. Buff's ad Fernando Lavovo said the
right things. It's intro but some don't want to donate
more money to a collegiate game that's headed in the
wrong direction. I have in total lockstep with you on this,
But for the listeners, why don't you explain where you're
coming from.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
It's free agency everywhere. I think the case you mentioned
with that Washington kid is like case and points of
where this thing is going and a lot of what
you have is and this is where Fernandelolo seems like
a way younger than me. It's just crazy. It seems
like a very accomplished young professional coming into a very
(01:22):
tough position. And not just a tough position, it's see you.
It's tough to see you for a number of reasons
which we can get into, but it's tough in the
game right now because what you have is a lot
of young men and their representatives and women to some
degree too, who are looking to get rich really quick.
(01:42):
Also of a free market, and you are being told
I will stay if you pay me basically, and that's
going on just to boulderbread everywhere, and a lot of
boosters going I'm tapped out? Who are and a lot
of these boosters are over fifty. Let's be real and
are looking at this and where this where the life
(02:03):
is gone. In NCAA Sports after the House NCAA settlement,
which is you know, made revenue sharing legal to cut
right to the chase after you know, one hundred years
of it being the other way around. The pendulum instructs
so hard the other way towards player power that a
lot of boosters and a lot of markets, not Texas
(02:23):
Tech and not Oregon are really really, really really frustrated
and tapped out because schools and this is what Fernanda
Lobo is going to have to do. This is what
Rick George was doing, This is what John Weber's doing
at CSU is they have to keep going back to
these alumni and saying more and more and more and
more more. I need twenty two million to pay my
athletes next year. I need twenty three million to two years.
It's it's absurd. And the real estate bubble burst, the
(02:48):
tech bubble burst. I'm just curious where the nil slash
revenue sharing bubble bursts and the NCAA because it's coming
and I'm sorry that's a long answer, but it's it's deep.
It's not good.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So, son, how is it that Lovo I mean and
coach prime because you got to think that these two
guys would be joined at the hip and things look
different with Rick George.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I think the biggest thing.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I'm wondering how these two guys are going to coexist,
but more importantly, how are they going to coexist and
handle this twenty seven million dollar deficit that the program has, right.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And that's the other shoe, And the twenty point five
million that has been set aside for revenue sharing is
a big bulk of that twenty seven million. Right. It's
just basic math. I don't know. It's is there an
oil well that somebody could Can someone just write a
(03:44):
five million dollar check right now? If not more? Got
they're going to get They're getting Yeah, they got yeah,
selfish got it? Fine. There's some truth in that because
I didn't get into this in the colendar references, but
in talking to two or three alumni who are there
at the Logo news conference yesterday, a couple of them
(04:05):
said to me, well, you know, Travis Hunter is making
a lot of money. She heard Sanders is making a
lot of money. I think you would behoove them, since
their names are on the day building, to start writing
some jests for us and give this back because we
don't have And this is a problem. It's the issue too,
not just see you. It's a problem in a lot
of places is we don't have a big oil baron who,
(04:29):
at least right now, who is running in and just
giving us insane money, giving us you know, baseball, pitch
your money, you know whatever, great Maddocks money, you know,
to solve this, because yeah, twenty seven million is a
real thing, and they're gonna have to dip into university
funds to balance it. I think they intend to balance
(04:49):
it with university funds. But that's student fees, that's student
money and undergrads who didn't necessarily sign up to do
this to help pay for Dan Sanders. That's a sip.
And it's tax that's there's some tax money in there too.
In some places that's a slippery slope when you're getting
from church general university funding. So yeah, again it's not
(05:11):
just Fernando at CU. This is a tricky position for
I think most power for ads because Ohio State's in
the red at the last report. I mean, very few
schools that aspire to be where they want to be
are running in running in the black right now, and
that's where the sport is. And that goes back to
(05:32):
my previous long winded answer, because paying the players isn't
going away, and you almost need some other way to
do that. And see you, if it's not in an
oil world, maybe it's equity, an equity firm, which is
what Utah just did. Basically say hey, we're a private
we're going to privatize our athletic department and let you
help us invest in it and donated it. I mean
(05:54):
those are your two options.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Well, yeah, I talked with Sean Healer from the diver pos.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Not everybody is Texas Tech and has got a Cody
Campbell with the Matadora club there.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
You know, it is just shelling out money, you know,
in terms of that.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I mean Texas Tech had a record breaking fundraising year
last year when they got donors to contribute two hundred
and thirty six million dollars. See, you and CSU are
just not in that that stratosphere at all.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
No, and and you're playing pet shops at a game
where where the guardrails are very limited and often tested.
There's no Commissioner of college football to walk in here
and say, no, this is what we do. This is
how we get some kind of I don't want to
say parody, but some kind of logic to this and
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guardrails the term that already comes back to, and I
don't think we're gonna get that. I think we're still
this becomes the next crack in what becomes that Premier
League has been talked about or whatever you want to
call it, separate super league of those that can pay
for this stuff and those that can't, because the team
money is going to just funnel up to those forty
(07:02):
or fifty brands that matter too, so they don't. And
we laughed at the time a little bit about the
whole the former CU assistant who was sending emails to
Saudi the crown prints of Saudi Arabia. You know, they
all kind of raise our eyebrows a little bit at that.
For a lot of reasons. I think that's still going
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on in a lot of places because of the financial
realities we're talking about. It's stupid money, and everyone's got
to figure out how to pay for it, and they don't.
They got to figure out how to pay for it.
And this is Lobo's challenge, as it is for everybody.
Without cutting sports and without cutting staff, it's math is math, budgets, budgets.
The general capitalists right now tends to like to cut staff,
(07:45):
to cut overhead to make these things happen. See you,
I think you guys correct me if I'm wrong, only
has twelve or thirteen sports right now, or at least
the minimum of men's sports. Like, they don't have a
lot of room of where the NCAA regulations are right
now to cut things at least in terms of sports.
So yeah, good luck. It's tricky and I don't end
(08:10):
be them in that regard.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
So Sam, when we look at the transport portal, and
Nil's obviously be talking about that, it is definitely transform
college football and college sports as a whole. When you
look at what coach prim has done in the portal,
and we know last season wasn't obviously it didn't go. Wait,
everyone thought, what do you think about some of the
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players that they have acquired so far in the transfer portal.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I think you talk about the bowling green lightbacker today,
you talk about Skidero with San Jose State, the kid
at Miami at Ohio. I think you've got some gems.
You're building kind of a group of four, group of five. Sorry,
you're building kind of a group of five all star team,
which wasn't crazy dissimilar from two years ago and two
(08:57):
portal windows ago. You know, do you want have to
know fool? He knows what worked and getting a lot
of stars. The John Jay Western the key one of those.
He was great at FAU. I had a Blitznekoff vote
when he was at FAU. I voted for him twice,
once as an OWL at Florida Atlantic and then again
when he came to see you. Because he's just dynamic.
(09:19):
There's a reason he's a pro. I think there's an
upper class bend to this. A group of five been
to this that they want to get guys who are
at the end of their careers and largely developed. I
think this is the linebacker guy in the ESPN's is ZLB.
(09:39):
I mean, how could he not play for Dedon Sanders.
He's I think this is his third school. I think
he started at Dayton, so he's almost like the we
talked about the Washington guy being an archetype for kind
of where the finances are going with this. This guy's
kind of like coming from Dayton to Bowling Green to
see you is sort of like where this developmental process
for a lot of college athletes is going. Where they
(10:01):
see this, it becomes like minor league baseball, and a
lot of these smaller schools can't keep these guys, or
a lot of the mid size the bigger group of
fives come sweep in and you know, big fish just
eat from the little fish and on down the line.
So there's some there's some prospects there. There's some lineman
I'm not so sure about. We'll see, but there's some
skill guys. There's some flash guys. There's some names, and
(10:23):
we'll see how quickly they gell because that's always the
case when you're getting two thirds year roster from the
portal every year.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Talk Sean Keener from the Denver Poe's last one from me.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
You know, there's been quite an exodus in terms of
the transfer portal. I think Omri and Miller is probably
the biggest name, you know, with all that, but there
are some great players that left too, I mean byered,
you know, hitting the portal you had and the ones
that concerned me, specifically McPherson and David Swaying, the two
defensive linemen, as well as a.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Bevy of other players. The margins are thinner now.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I mean when Dion came to Colorado, the idea was,
you know, a lot of transfer portal type stuff, and
that wasn't really I mean it was, it wasn't that
long ago, but that wasn't really the way anybody did it.
Now everybody's doing it that way. The margins and finner.
They're going to have to get a developmental thing going
at some point.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Right, Yeah, we've talked about that that you got to
the trouble with this, and I'm this looks like it's
gonna be a good portal class. Yeah, it's also gonna
be a good class on just bulk because they have
to get fifty guys right to fill out the rockster.
At this point, I think only had thirty one or
thirty five something scholarship players when this portal window opened,
so there was a plan to do this. I don't
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think a majority of your rosters transfers. As we've talked about,
it's sustainable, and I don't think it's good for building
offense to the defensive lines. They proved me wrong two
years ago on that front. They kind of proved me
wrong this way this last year. The offensive line wasn't
noise the problem, but depth was. And I think we've
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talked about this maybe last month or a couple months
ago that while you're signing there, it just gets to
be very top heavy, star heavy, and the Buffs were
a little top heavy last year less years ago. I
worry with this class you will just many accomplished upperclass
when they're coming in. Then it's still gonna look pretty
top heavy that you can do whatever. What happens to
(12:10):
go to Northwestern is raining in Evanston, sunny Evanston, which
you know it's not. And somebody pulls a hamstring in
this new star ESPN linebacker Twist's acl. I don't know
who you got playing behind him, you know what I mean.
I think that's where the prime method is failing most
significantly right now. You hope you'll get tested that way,
(12:31):
but we will see because it's a long season and
some of that stuff is inevitable. So hey, if they
stay healthy, yeah, this could be a ball team on paper.
If they don't, I don't know about that depth, guys,
and I think that's the problem with building the way
they choose to build and reload.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Jem, we got about sixty seconds here, but I definitely
had to ask you this question because I was at
the game on Sunday and there was a very frustrated
and power feel. More so, I've seen the stadium and
I hadn't seen it all season.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Like like boo, the team in fourteen and three, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Team winning, Yes, a number one seed on the line,
and at fourteen and three, I mean, what did you
think about the fan base bullying this team.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
It's not my money, but I can see from an
aesthetics standpoint, and certainly from an offensive standpoint, and absolutely
from a red zone standpoint, that's justifiable. The only defense
that bronc here's where the Broncos can fight those boots back.
And you guys are probably talking about this. This has
been a lot of vanilla these last two weekends. Given
the stakes, they need to show that playbook's got something
(13:39):
and got it where it counts. I think they're three
from their last nine in the red zones. Just score touchdowns.
Let's make this simple. Score touchdowns. People won't do the end.
Everybody advances we're going to Santa Clara.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
They're good right, Well, yeah, I mean at the end
of the day, at the end of the day, score
points win games, and that takes care of all. But
certainly certainly a fascinating phenomenon there. I think as we
watched uh in this offense, which again has been sort
of that way, especially through three quarters almost all year
for the Broncos, but hoping we turned that around in
(14:10):
the play of Seawan. We appreciate it as always, Sean Keeler,
Denver Post. Always love having you all, brother, Thanks guys,
good night to you. Absolutely take care Sean Taylor from
the Denver Post and as can follow once, we always
love having him on. Plagued the innis see you and
and and of course around any one of the better
columnists inte certainly not a guy that's uh uh, you know,
not looking Sean Payton in the eyes and uh uh
(14:30):
asking questions at press conferences.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Oh what what's that of?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Reference to bit different columnists in town. Courageonly typed who
formerly of the Post and.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Can't really look someone in the eye? You didn't, Sean
postgame presser, No I missed some of it.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, after Parker Gabriel asked a question and then he
turned over to the other side here and started popping
off saying, you know you speak.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
That was Mark Ki. Several people that reached out, that
reached out of.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
The internet, was that you you And I'm like, no,
I know, I don't ask too many questions.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
First of all, I've never had a problem look at
somebody in the eye, and he would never say that
to me.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, I remember hearing that, but I was, But I
too was like, well who was he talking to?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yeah, yeah, that was to Mark Kislow.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Interesting whatever, whatever problems there are, you know whatever, Sean
sean Paper never said that to me.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
So, uh, anyway, we got an NFL six PAC, we
come back.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
It's me guys, uh texting in like Kevin sean On
appreciate that a couple of texts from earlier asking you
VJ still in a contract at the Broncos next season.
I don't believe he is. I think his contracts up
at the end of this year. I'd have to double
check on that. I think his contract is up.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I don't expect him back any which way, but we'll see.
We'll see how that goes. And enjoys certainly the time
that we had with that. Let's get to NFL six PAC.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Time for the NFL six path. I'm going to train
a lot of beer insight.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
That insight information you can't find anywhere else.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
The top six NFL headlines, what.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Es actually going to start with something that's not NFL
because this one is bugging me, and it leads into look,
I'm all for players having autonomy secured in the bag
then all that kind of stuff, But the University of
Washington has an issue right now and they're planning to
enforce the contract they have with Demand Williams, and he's
announced that he has decided to enter the transfer portal
(16:28):
four days after signing.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
A new deal with the University of.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Washington and just taking the money and running. Look, I'm
all for players to have an autonomy, but signing a
deal four days ago and then turning around.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
And announcing that you're leaving while your entire team and
coaching staff are attending the memorial Mia Hammond.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
A student athlete star goalkeeper at the University of Washington
who died back in November from cancer.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
It was very popular there.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Everybody's attending her funeral, and you decide to drop at
that moment, your attention.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
To leave while whilst taking this money with you.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
After signing a contrast just strikes me is weird and
frankly wrong. What were you doing signing a deal four
days ago and then trying to leave. The terms of
the deal haven't exactly been disclosed yet, and obviously he's
coming off a strong season. They wanted to keep him
right now. Washington has been in contact with the Big
Ten about the situation and that conference drafts revshare agreement
(17:19):
contracts for its league members and described Williams deal as
a finding agreement with the school and it's worked only
the Big Ten back to Wisconsin last year went forward
Badger's defenders Savior Lucas withdrew from the university year Rold
of Miami. Lucas did not enter the transfer portal. Washington
said he signed a two year NIL agreement, and then
Lucas alleged that Washington, which is Wisconsin rather would not
enter his name in the portal.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Lucas took league action.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
He signed famed sports attorney Darren Hener the representative Washington
Wisconsin suit. Miami um filed the motion dismiss that that
lawsuit is still ongoing.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
What do you think about this?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I mean, it's the wild West right now with the
NIL and all these NIL deals and everything else. But
what are you doing changing your mind four days after
you signed a deal and then dropping this on social media,
while you know everybody involved is in a funeral for
somebody who died from cancer.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Like, really, but.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It happened, was that I wanted to get more money.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I want to lie down the deal then have.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
An opportunity to jump to another team to try to
put more money in my pocket. Because as it stands
right now, Benjamin Albright, there's not a lot of rules,
regulations and policies that are preventing me from doing this.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
So other players have done this.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, albeit the situation looks really ugly, but it's all
about doing what's best for me and my family.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
But don't you think that's like the biggest lack of
awareness moment ever? Like, if this dude makes it to
the NFL, his Madden rating on awareness is going to
be zero because what a bad look like this is.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
This just paints you in a horrible light. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
It's just it's just a bad look all the way across.
And I mean, normally I don't want to get too
weep in the weeds on this, but man is in
I also, we've got to get a regulating body on
it somewhere. If you're signing contracts to play somewhere, you.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Want to be a pro.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You sign a contract to play somewhere.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
You gott to honor your contracts.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Right.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
You'd expect the university to honor it, would you.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Very Speaking of honoring contracts, I guess they technically honored
It's Packers quarterback Clayton Tuone got a chance to show
what he could do on Sunday and meetingless Week eighteen game.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
I guess the Packers didn't really like.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
What they saw, because today Tuone was released forty eight
hours after going six to eleven for a mere thirty
four yards and a sixteen three loss to the Vikings.
The Packings turn, the Packers signed Desmond Ritter, who has
a history of being terrible in games, as well, to
add the active roster from the practice squad. Ritter is
going to be the third quarterback for the playoffs, by
Jordan Love and Malik Willis. Sunday was Tune's second career start.
(19:47):
He also started a game for the Cardinals in twenty
twenty three. For his career, Tune is twenty one to
thirty eight, one hundred and twelve yards, no touchdowns, three interceptions,
and a passer rating of twenty seven point seven. Like
why would you roll a guy out there if you
were going to do that? Like, why why you even
do that? Why roll a guy out there for one
game and then cut him to bring another guy on.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Because you can't.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
It's the same reason why teams bring in players who
were on another team that they're playing and get all
the information out of them and then kick them to
the curve.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Just guy, you can get the right You played him,
You had him roll out there for an entire game.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
You know he sunk for practice before the stinks.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Listen, man, it doesn't always look great. Isn't that what
we told We just need to put someone up to.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Just dress him up.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Man, We're just trying to get to the next game.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
You get thirty four passing yards. Hey, this is hey.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
They call the football business, not business and football Chris.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Alutaka and tripled this guy up and matches Patrick.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Mahomes's voice perfectly. There you go, fair enough?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Do you think Milake Willis is going to be a
starting quarterback somewhere in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Now?
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I think he's gonna get some looks.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Man.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
I mean, I'm gonna be honest like that.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Dude has come a long way since those Tennessee Days three.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Uh, here's one for you.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Jason Garrett, speaking to Tennessee, will interview for the Titans
head coaching job. Titan's job search will include the coach
that guided the early years of Dak Prescott's career. In
inter rapaport reporting, former Cowboys coach Chasse and Garrett will
interview for the job. Garrett, part of the three Super
Bowl winning teams the Cowboys back in the nineties, coached
the Cowboys from twenty eleven to twenty nineteen, and the
(21:22):
interim coach during the twenty ten season, taking.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Over weight Phillips.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
His regular season record eighty five and sixty seven, three
playoff appearances, two and three in the postseason.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
He did win NFL's.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Coach of the Year in twenty sixteen, the year that
started with veteran quarterback Tony Romo being unavailable, opening the
door for Dak Prescott, then a fourth round rookie, to
lead the team to a thirteen and three record. Garrett
then worked as an offensive coordinator for the Giants in
twenty and twenty one, joined the NBC Sports in twenty
twenty two, where he's been sitting next to Mike Florio
every Sunday during football season, probably explains his desire to
(21:52):
find a new job. I don't think he's actually in
contention here, but I'm going to drop a little nugget
in a minute. I want to hear what you guys
think about Jason Garrett interviewing for the Titans job.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I think it makes sense because we see every single year,
as always someone who's a surprise interview that we did
not expect.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I mean, we've seen Josh.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
McCown over the years, Hines Ward over the years, and
we all spots on our hands like what the heck
are they doing?
Speaker 4 (22:22):
But the idea that Jason Garrett is on.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Television, he talks about football a lot for some owners
and may make them feel as though, well, this person
really knows football. All you have to do is go
back and look at the guy resume and that tells
you everything you need to know.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
The difference between McCown and hines Ward, though, was they
had no resume, where Jason Garrett very clearly does. By
the way, and this is the nugget'll drop, Jason Garrett.
That's former Broncos mystery candidate Jason Garrett. Oh really, Jason
Garrett was the other name in the coaching search that
ultimately led to Sean Payton.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
That was the mystery candidate after they'd exhausted their options.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
We guess after Harball decided to go back to Michigan,
Demiko Ryans found out about their pursuit of Horrorball at
All to Know went to Houston. Dan Quinn told him no,
that he's going back to Dallas, and it left Sean
Payton and a mystery candidate.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
And the mystery candidate was Jason Garrett.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
I'm just glad that he won't have to wear makeup
anymore because that dude they are taking it on him
for those NBC Sunday Night football Broadkay the Clapper, it.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Is too much?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
It is Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna text him
and say that Christmas as you wear too much makeup.
With that four, John Horbaugh becomes the instant betting favorite
for the Giants. Job I Boll landed on the coaching
market the betting markets and quickly responded the instant favorite
to be the new head coach of the Giant with
(23:38):
odds of plus one fifty. The prior favorite yesterday was
Kevin Stefanski at plus one seventy five Harball eight to
one to become the coach of the Titans. I'm gonna
tell you now, he won't do that. Ten to one
become the coach of the Browns. Plus six fifty for
the Falcons. I might sprinkle that one and plus four
to fifty for the Raiders. I would not touch that
one with anyone else's money. And it would be awkward
to say, at least if he did land with the Raiders,
(23:58):
given that the Ravens are widely believed to have instigated
the deflate Gates scandal of twenty fifteen by telling the
cold stand the Patriots and quarterback Tom Brady. We're using
deflated football's Tom Brady, of course, the minority owner leading
the search there. So there is that. I do believe
he'll coach. I don't believe he'll be involved with Raiders Arizona.
I may interview in Tennessee. I don't think that's going
(24:20):
to happen. The Giants of the Falcons I think are
the landing spots for him unless one of the two
Florida jobs, Miami or Tampa opens up, and I think
he would take one of those if they open up.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
So the question to you is where do you guys
think Harbolo ends up?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Not sure where he ends up, but if he's really
thinking about a place to really jump and revitalize his career,
the Falcon's job looks pretty good because once again you're
looking at how much money they have.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
He had just had to get over that.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
But more importantly, what division you're in and what's the
long term future outlook. We know Autor Blank wants to
hire a coach that he can look at and say, well,
this guy has a well to do resume that makes
me feel comfortable, So that would be a good landing
spots form.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
I don't know where he's gonna end up.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
I think the Falcons should be the betting favorite, but I.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Would love to see him go to Cleveland and revitalize
that franchise. Stick it to the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
The Ravens and the Browns do have the opportunity to
do the funniest thing ever and trade coaches, basically firing
Stefanski went to Baltimore and Hart. I don't think either
one of those are gonna happen. But if Harball went
to Cleveland, is Stefanski with the Baltimore that would.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Be I think that would be personal hilarious, but that's
just me.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
That five oh see here, Speaking of Stefanski, he's gonna
interview with the Giants on Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Clint Kubiak get some more on the Giants.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Cardinals, and Raiders have requested interviews for Clint Kobiac as
well as Atlanta Uh. Kubiak, of course, joined Mike McDonald's
staff this past season help the Seahawks finish third in
the League of points scored. He was the offensive coording
to New Orleans the previous year. He's worked for the Niners, Broncos,
and Vikings. Early you're in his career arrable for devailable
for virtual interviews this week because the Seahawks have the five,
Sam reason Banson and Davis Webbar as well. I do
(26:09):
believe Clint Kubiak is going to wide up with a job.
He's another one that could be very much in line
for the Falcons. And the key there is that the
Falcons have hired a search firm, Sportsology, and the guy
in that search firm that's heading that up as a
guy by the name of Rick Smith, who was the
general manager of the Houston Texans who just happened to
employ his head coach when he was the general manager.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
One Gary Kubiak.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
H see, that would be a good will to do
grouping because you need to make sure you're head coach
and your GM is there on the same page, and
you have familiarity with the scheme, familiarity with individuals who
were older Kolbiac So, I mean, you gotta have the right
(26:55):
ingredients if you're.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Going to make a nice gumbo.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
You know.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
I wouldn't be shocked.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
This reminds me a lot of Ben Johnson for a
couple of years in Detroit. I think if he doesn't
like what some of the offers he gets, he'll just
go back to Seattle for another year and wait on
another six or seven openings next year. But the Atlanta,
the Atlanta situation sounds like it makes love sense.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
If if far Ball were to take the Giant's job,
I think it'd be him and Stefanski for the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
We'll see see how that shakes out.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Six.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
The Dolphins have.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Had another name to their list of general manager candidates,
and this one is an eyebrow raiser, Jeremy Fowler reporting
from ESPN that they've requested an interview with Chargers assistant
GM Chad Alexander. Alexander joined the Chargers, of course, after
they hired John Harball in general manager Joe Horritz out
of the twenty twenty four season. He's previously with the
Jets as their director of player Personnel. He spent his
(27:45):
first two decades in the Ravens organization. The Dolphins have
requested other interviews, but this one is interesting because he
has many many ties to John Harball and interviewing now
in the Dolphins job where Mike McDaniel currently sits as
they had coach. But if they were able to slide
Harball away and bring his preferred general manager in here,
(28:06):
maybe that changes things. Do you believe that the Miami
Dolphins would fire Mike McDaniel now to bring in Harball
and chat Alexander?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
But he's in on the GM search right. He is
not in on the GM search.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Despite saying so, well, Stephen Ross has already showed that
he's willing to do whatever it takes.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
I mean, there were there.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Are allegations for Brian Flores that he was being somewhat
I guess incentivized to position the team in order to
move up the pick to a tongue of a lawyer.
So and man, when you see other teams doing well,
you want to get to wherever they are, and sometimes
that means you sacrifice more than ethics to get to
(28:47):
that point. So it wouldn't be shocking to me if
that was the case, because at the end of the day,
you're trying to win fucking ball games, right, You're trying
to run football games.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
And if that means that you had.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
To buy your one guy to go get another guy,
then guess what happens.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Absolutely might do it the stream in the podcast.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
You gotta have fun with that. You know you didn't.
I had the dumb but we got him.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
This party is probably swear all the air.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
I said, freaking you just off, sir.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Oh boy, somebody has already gotten into the six PACKY
didn't think you.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Drank, but yeah, Martin Hard, I never thought again another
contail for the group over there. Appreciate Yeah, thank hard it.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Here we are talking about the bridge quarterbacks for.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Certain teams next year. What about to for the Jets?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
He he will definitely be available, he will he will
one be available and uh, I would not be surprised
if that was a There.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
A possibility with the Jets as a bridge quarterback after
having your favorite quarterback in Justin Fields.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Yeah, I know, two for two Arizona.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Another place he could potentially be a quarterback is they're
going to be moving on for Kyler Murray.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
They really don't have anything there right now.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
There's gonna be some depending on how things shake out there,
that could be a possibility as well.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
One other question for you on the head coaching hires,
what about Jesse Mentor going back to Baltimore as a
head coach.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I believe that that's probably what's going to happen with
an offensive coordinator of Cliff Kingsbury. How about him getting
let go? He that was a mutual to say, they
both wanted out, the mutual parting of the way.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
How quick things can change in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Then, yeah, that was that was one of those things
that was was coming.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
That's crazy because Jess, a year ago you had everything
was going well with Jane Daius and everyone was puffing
their fist, high five, bumping chess, and then all of
a sudden you moved a year two.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Things don't go well.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
To think that the coordinator had his play call and
duties removed, Daan Quinn took over, and now Cliff Kingsbury,
who had an opportunity after the first year to get
another job even in college football, opted.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
To stay only to have the MUSERU party of the ways,
I think.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I think Dan Quinn wants people that are focused on
the Washington Commanders and don't have an eye on their
next job, and I think it rubbed him the wrong
way that Cliff Kingsbury felt like he always had his
eye on the next job.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
Any truth to the rumors of a lot of offensive
players being upset by that mutual party nine, I.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Would say, there's like some of that, but I think,
you know, I think there's they'll be fine. I think
there's you know, everybody has attachments to things and stuff
like that, but I don't think that that will be
you know, in the same way that some of these
players right now are saying that they're sorry that Todd
Munkin and John Harbor are gone.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
They ran them out.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
It was either Lamar or Harball because Harball was sticking
by Mounkin, and Mounkin and Lamar been feuding for weeks.
So you know, in fact, that Baltimore Sun article that
came out that talked about Lamar, you know, not being
lazy in a sleep at practices and not practicing with
the teams about the off season. The source for that
is you guessed it h Todd Munkin, So you know
that that's where that that's where that came from. And
(32:10):
that was always you know, uh, the front office of
the Ravens didn't want to fire horriball.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
It was.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
It was the owner who did it against their objection itself.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
He was Sadi yep is it Biscotti because Bishatishatiscottishati.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
He like bis golf kid cookies. We're not believe in
this part of croncous country tonight. You can't wait.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
You never go commando and another man's fatigue.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
My boys and your boys, we don't hang out, soun
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