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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Broncos here helping.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
On the official home of the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
All Right, all night ko.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
A, Welcome to a Broncos country tonight. Benjamin Alibright here
with you short show post CEU Buffs Men's Basketball Edition.
I hope you guys are having a good evening. Appreciate
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you be wrong for the ride.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Busy day around the world. Try to avoid some of
that busy day in the league we had.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Obviously, we found out that uh, that Todd Bowles was
getting retained by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We still don't
know about Mike McDaniel, though right now it appears that
he's still being retained.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Sys.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
The John Harbaugh news tends to spread further and teams acquire.
Nine teams have inquired about John Harbaugh, which means several
that currently have head coaches.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
We'll get into that some of that.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
In a minute. Currently, one of the stories that happens
to be breaking right now is Kansasity Chief's wide receiver
or She Rice, who has been in trouble multiple times before,
is now being accused of domestic violence. Sam McDowell of
the Kansas City Star has obtained a response to the
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Chiefs and says they a club is aware of the
allegations on social media in communication with the National Football League,
with no further comments at this time. The allegations come
from Dakota Jones, who has two children with Rice, said
in an Instagram post today that she had broken up
with him two months ago. Among other things she accused
him of is putting hands on her, locking her outdoors
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in ten degree weather, multiple instances of cheating, cutting up
her shoes and clothes, and abandoned the family in Kansas
while leaving for his native Texas. Instagram post includes several
pictures of bruises on Jones's face, legs, shoulders, and chest,
as Willis damaged property around her home. Jones also implies
there's an existing legal agreement with Rice because of everything
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he's put me through, which he allegedly doesn't follow. From
her post, she says, quote, I've known this man for years,
all caps. He tries to put on this persona like
he's Dad of the year. He does the bare minimum,
and I have to beg for that. I've protected his
image too long and I'm done doing that. It's time
to protect my peace, protect my children, and stand up
for myself and quote. The allegations, of course, represent a
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potential second major off field issue involving Rice, who was
suspended for the first six games of this season due
to a hit and run accident from April of two
thousand and four. That incident involved Rice drag racing at
high speeds in a Lamborghini on a Dallas Highway, racing
a friend in a Corvette. Two cars cause a major collision,
triggeringminal charges in a weave of lawsuits from the car's occupants.
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Rice eventually pled guilty to two felony charges and was
sentenced to five years probation and thirty days in jail.
He also agreed to a one point one million dollars
settlement with one of the victims, whose attorney later claimed
he hadn't sent a cent months later. The Chiefs stood
by Rice throughout the process. The star tight end Travis
Kelcey among other players to wear a free four shirt
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during warm ups while the whiteout was serving his suspension. Four,
being Rice's number quarterback Pat Mahomes sat a month after
the crash. He was trying to mentor Rice into becoming
both the best person he could be in society while
head coach Andy Reid praised his growth and training camp
back in August. Rice finished the season with five hundred
and seventy one receiving yards fifty on fifty three receptions
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of five receiving touchdowns off of seventy eight targets. He's
one of the most productive members of the Kansas City offense.
The former second round picks got seventeen hundred and ninety
seven receiving yards fourteen touchdowns across twenty eight career games,
ran eleventh in the NFL and receiving yards per game
this past year. Missing most of twenty twenty four due
to an LCL and hamstring injury, it was placed on
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season injured reserve in week seventeen this year due to
a concussion. Rice isn't the only Chiefs wide receiver facing
allegations from a former partner. Xavier Worthies ex fiance was
granted a protective order in March after accusing him of
abuse or The later filed a lawsuit alledging she assaulted
him that stole or destroyed more than one hundred and
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fifty thousand dollars in cash and property as well. I
will keep an eye on those stories going forward, but
the Kansas City Chiefs once again, and Legal hot Water
as another player has off field issues and.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
You guys can look that stuff up. It's audience game.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I'm not gonna on my account, I'm not going to
be sharing those photos and all that kind of stuff
because it's the ledged at this point. But it's out
there and certainly, you know, anybody can can go look
at it and see it and and go from there.
Teams continue to get interviews UH sorted out. Broncos offensive
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coordinator Davis Webb has been requested as an interview for
the Raiders, as well as defensive coordinator Vance Joseph. I
suspect the Davis Webb interview is more of a more more.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Of a an interview.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
For offensive coordinator on staff than it is as a
head coach. Web's very young and and only been at
this couple of years. Has never had play calling duties
in a regular season game. Now, he did do it
in a preseason game, the Colts game and had very
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very good success. But you know, he really just does
not have any experience whatsoever. He's been with the Broncos
for three years. He got a title bump this past
season to you know, past game coordinator and quarterbacks coach
to kind of keep him keep him around. He was
a third round pick back in twenty seventeen out of
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Texas Tech, and he has four we played for fourteen,
well three teams, the Giants twice, but Giants, Jets, Bills
played for the Giants twice. And he turns thirty one
later this month, and that is incredibly young to be
a head coach in the NFL. Most guys who start
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head coaching that young just just don't succeed. Sean McVay
was a little older than that, maybe the lone exception,
but you know, as you as you look at this thing,
guys that are that young just just struggle a little bit.
And it's tough when you're that young and you've only
been coaching for a couple of years to have put
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together enough people that you're familiar with to be able
to build out an NFL coaching staff. That's that's the
other part of this is, you know, I don't know
that Davis Webb has enough guys to build out staff.
And that's something that you know, obviously as he gets
into the room for those interviews that he will have
to explain and that kind of stuff. I'm not saying
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he shouldn't take the interviews. Absolutely should and good for him,
and he's an up and comer in this league. But
the idea of somebody who has been a quarterbacks coach
for three seasons now would be ready to be a
head coach in the NFL just does not seem it
does not seem viable to me. We'll see, you know,
how that shakes out.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Ultimately.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Web It was a pretty good quarterback back in college
and actually announced his transfer to Colorado back in January
of twenty sixteen when he was at Texas Tech, and
ultimately he revealed after that was in January, and then
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in May he decided he was going to go to
Cal Berkeley instead as head coached Sonny Dyke's you know,
recruited him out there. Wound up having a decent season
out there at Cal thirty seven touchdowns, twelve picks, forty
two hundre and ney five yards, and he was semi
finalists for the Dave O'Bryant Award, Earl Campbell, Tyler Rose Award,
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All Packed twelve, Johnny Golden, Johnny United Schooling arm But
you know, end of the day wasn't quite it in
the NFL as far as a quarterback, but seems to
have it as coaching and good for him to getting noticed.
But both he and vanced Joseph for Up for the
Raiders job vance. Joseph up is interviewing for all the
jobs out there except for currently Cleveland and Baltimore. He
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has interviewed scripts in for all the available jobs. I
don't believe he's a candidate for some of them, like Tennessee,
it's probably going to Mattanaggie. Now he figures to be
the he's the leader in the clubhouse for you know,
for that job, and so that's that's kind of where
that's at. I don't know that he's a candidate in Atlanta.
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I kind of think that they want either Harball, Stefanski,
our Kubiak. So you know, I don't think he's a
candidate for some of these jobs, but you know, he
interviewed for him anyway, can't hurt. I do believe he's
in play in Arizona with the Raiders and with the Giants.
We'll see, you know, as far as that goes. So
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obviously the Ravens now the pinnacle job is they they
fired Horrball but that's gonna be tough because they kind
of sort of pick what they want, you know. It's
not like other jobs where you got people vying for it.
The Ravens are just going to kind of pick their
dude and go for it. They're that kind of organization.
They've only had three three head coaches in their entire history.
Ted Marchibroda the first two years they were in Baltimore,
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and then of course Brian Billick after that, and then
John Harbaugh took over and had been there for eighteen seasons.
A couple other things out there. Let's see, Dallas fired
defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus. That was largely large expected. They'll
have several people in the mix there, and I would
say that, uh, they'll look at guys like Brian Flores,
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Jim Leonard Advance, Joseph John Gannon. They'll cast a net
for that defensive coordinator position and and try to get
that settled there. That's a that's a marquee position there
in Dallas. The Washington Commanders moved on from offensive coordinator
Cliff Kingsbury, who is expected to get an interview for
the offensive coordinator job in Baltimore. Joe Witt, you know,
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was already h taken play calling away by Dan Quinn.
He was. He was let go as well. The Atlanta Falcons,
of course, had already fired Raheem Morrison general manager Terry Fattenhaut.
The Falcons, who finished a three way tie for first
place in the NFC South, however, due to tie breakers,
finish behind Carolina who made the playoffs, Tampa who didn't,
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and you know, ultimately you finished third in the division
even though you're tied for first and they had won
four straight leading up to that. That was That was
one of those things that it really felt like a
move to just clean house. Since you're bringing in all
new administration. You move in Rich McKay on your fire
and Terry font note Matt Ryan's gonna come in as
the president of football operations.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
That's one of those situations.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Where, you know, end of the day, I think they
just decided it would be easier to just give a
clean slate there and go from there and not not
through any fault of maybe Rahie Morris's own that he
gets let go in that kind of house cleaning, The
Browns parted ways with head coach Kevin Stefanski.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
About two hours after.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
He was let go, the Raiders let everybody know they
were moving on for Pete Carroll after one season. And
then of course the Cardinals fired John Gannon down there
in Arizona, and I think they're about to find out
they're not a destination job at the end of the day. Obviously,
Brian Callahan and Brian Dable had already lost their jobs
in season, and there were a couple other guys out
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there that, you know, people were curious about whether or
not they were going to get to keep their jobs.
You know, you look at the situation in Indy, although
you know, I don't think anybody was really worried about
Shane Stike and more about Chris Ballard. Both of them
kept their jobs. Cincinnati, who notoriously cheap, decided to keep
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their head coach Act Taylor and general manager Duke Tobin again,
and then you know, Todd Bowles announced today that he's back.
The only real question mark of teams that are not
in the playoffs is Mike McDaniel, who was tentatively expected
to be back, but the Harbaugh thing may change the
calculus on that. And then, of course in the playoffs
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will Mike Tomlin, you know, maybe step away from the
Steelers and take a TV job. That that's something that
I think, you know, people are are looking at. Would
either the Buffalo Bills or potentially the Green Bay Packers
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move on from their head coaches if they go one
and done. And I know it sounds silly because Lafleur
is a good coach and all that kind of stuff,
but there's some real sentiment there that that maybe he's
not safe in Green Bay. Sean McDermott and Buffalo. You know,
if you don't make some headway there that looks like
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it's that looks like it's tough, and that's that's one
of those things. I mean, if you don't make some
some headway in the playoffs, you may have reached the plateau.
You may you might get what I call John Fox, right,
which is what happened here in Denver where John Fox,
you know, kind of kind of took the Broncos as
far as he could take them, and you know what
they started doing was looking at, okay, can we get
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somebody to get us over the hump here? They went
out got Gary Kubiak and then we all know how
that we all know how that went, you know, after that.
So the Tomblin thing, though, that's that's one of those
things I would say is probably a little more real
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than people think. I don't know that he's going to
pack it up and go to television, maybe for a year,
maybe for good. But you know, that's one of those
things where it's more realistic than people think. And this
is the same thing when Bill Kauer.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Left.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You know, people were like, now and he'll be back
and all this kind of stuff, and then he wasn't.
So you know, I don't know. Tomlin's got a TV
job waiting on him if he wants it. To question
is whether or not he winds up taking it. Some
other moves real quick. The Chiefs moved on from their
wide receiver coach Connor Embry. Emby been there since twenty nineteen,
was a defensive assistant, then an offensive quality control coach,
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and they became receivers coach in twenty twenty three. But
the Chiefs have felt that that was not that that
was not working, So most of that staff will stay intact.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
But that's one of.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Those things that you know, end of the day they
move on from him, and we'll see, we'll see how
that goes. Todd Bowles, who is safe, met with the
Bucks ownership and he's gonna hold interviews with his coaches.
Did today and do that some of that tomorrow. They
will probably be making changes on the offensive side of
the ball, and so you know, you'll see a little
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bit of a shake up there, which you know is
fascinating because the defense was really the liability in Tampa
this year. The Baltimore Ravens have requested some interviews Seahawks
OC Clint Kubiak, Dolphins D c Anthey Weaver Weaver as
a history there. We'll see how that works out. Obviously,
like I said, I think Jesse mentors somebody they will
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once he gets eliminated from the playoffs. If they do,
somebody they will look at as their potential next head coach.
Obviously clicks for Kingsbury is somebody probably for the OC job,
and we'll see how that works out. The Washington Commanders
to interview the Raiders d C. Patrick Graham to take
over for Joe Witt. He's you know, he's heavily in
the in the mix there. The Raiders. We talked about
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Vance Joseph and Davis Webb. They're also going to interview
Matt Naggi, Clint Kubiak, and those are the main names
that they've got out there right now. We'll see a
flores is on that list and kind of go from there.
Raheem Morris, who got fired by the Falcons, is meeting
with several teams. He could wind up as a defensive
coordinator in Washington, but he's also meeting with several teams,
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including the Cardinals, Giants, and Titans about their head coaching job.
Atlanta went sixteen and eighteen under Morris in those two years,
but it looked like they were finally making some headway
at the end of the the end of the season.
The Cleveland Browns, who have the weirdest asks that looks
like so far, have requested interview Bengals offensive coordinator Dan Pitcher.
And that's fun to me because Pitcher is, you know,
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their rivals. Oh see, so probably an intel move. We'll
see how that goes. Broncos Country tonight.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Back after this.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
The text line, I'm not sure what I stumbled in here, Zach.
What all the urine on the text line is about?
Or drinking urine, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Lots of that, lots of salcine. Between Dave and Rick,
there's a whole.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Lot to catch you up on. I have Yeah, I
have no idea what's going on here. It feels like
maybe the bump back music should be R Kelly or something.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
At this point. There's good news today. Dave promised me
he'd never make me drink his urine. Yeah. I don't
know about that. I don't know where to go with that.
I mean, at least he promised that he would never
do it.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I think if you want to be, you know, a
glass half full, No pun intended that you got to
take that route.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, I was telling them, But you know I used
to frank people. I used to sneak in put ambasol
on the toothbrush and you know you can toe. Didn't
rush your tee because her mouth and be numb. The
only prank I would have that would have anything to
do with with the urine drinking thing. What else? In
the hospital one time and they give you before you
get these these tests done, they give you this thing
apple juice to drink, right, And so I just left
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that and poured the apple juice in the You're analysis
cup and then let's put that back on the on
the night stand or whatever. And then when the nurse
came in there and she kind of picked it up
and looked at it funny and was like shaking it
like that.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I was like what. I was like, hey, let me
see that from an I like, oh, sor it's a
bad sample.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Let me run it back through and then drank the
apple juice out of the that's a good bit, you know,
just you know, I mean, that's a harmless, cheeky fun
stuff like that. Would never actually make someone consume it.
That's not that's not funny. I think it's a crime.
Cruel it is now it used to be, but it's
just cruel and weird. Yeah yeah, okay, okay, I was
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because I'm like, what are we what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
That's what I get for. No, Dave claimed he would
never do it, so again, but you know.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
The positives would never do that, Like I know, I
think I know Dave Logan well enough that Dave would
never do something like.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
That because Dave's they's good.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Dave's game for laugh But that's not that's that's not
even funny though. There's nothing funny about that. No, it's
it's it was wasn't it what this what's his name
got in trouble for the Center?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah, well it wasn't It wasn't p but yes, okay, yeah,
that's right, that's right, Yes, right, I could perceive.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I member, that's what I.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Was thinking about when I said this is I'm pretty confident.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
It's a crime memories going in my old age. Man,
I couldn't remember which bodily fluid in that particular case.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
So there you go. Interesting day around the league.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Again, is the fallout from coaching firings in the NFL
continues to I guess, you know, sort of spiral outwards
as it does after Black Monday. Although we found out
today the Tideles will be safe.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
That's that's a development. Yeah, he will be safe.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
They called about Horrball, But ultimately, I think, you know,
Harball has kind of explained to him, a look, I'm
gonna want to clean slate, I'm gonna want to run this,
I'm gonna want my own GM and you know, and
all that kind of stuff. And he doesn't have a
bit of a previous relationship with Jason light but I
think he wants his I specifically, and I think Tampa
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was like all right, this is not what we're getting into.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
We'll roll it back with bowls and do a search
next year.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, Jason Light is calling the shots in Tampa. He
understandably doesn't want to hand that responsibility over to John Harbaugh.
A place like the Giants where you know, yes there's
a GM in place, but he's on a very hot seat,
a very short leash. That makes sense. I think the Falcons,
of course, a similar case. Maybe even the Titans where
there's kind of a weird power vacuum in that front
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office maybe or I could help clean that up.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
He's not going to the Titans, I'll tell you that.
It'll be the Giants or the Falcons probably end of
the day. Makes these Giants what horball Now, I'm not
convinced that he that they're his first choice. There is
he's their first choice. I'm not concerned, you know, with
the Shane situation there. I think, you know, this would
have to be like Liam Cohen and Trent Balke were.
Ultimately they just moved on from Joe Shane and brought.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
His guy in. But we'll see.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I think the Falcons are, you know, right now set
up to be there, and then I'm not one hundred
convins that Miami doesn't try to take a run at it.
They called, despite other reporting out there, they called, they
haven't made a move. They don't really have to make
a move. They've got Mike McDaniel in place right now.
And the reason places like Tampa and Miami are publicly
denying that they make calls is because they have other
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guys in the job right now.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, you're not going to publicly tell people, yeah, we're
sniffing around John Harbaugh and then wind up not getting
him and stick with with Mike McDaniel. A lot of
people have been dismissing it by pointing to who Miami's
had in for.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
A GM interview. It's a lot of San Francisco guys.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Notably, though, one of the people they've had in for
that GM interview is the assistant GM in Los Angeles
with the Chargers, SAMs to me right now, Yeah, and
he has experienced dating back with Sean Harby, spent a
lot of time in that Baltimore organization.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
So that was the name just showed up when Harball
got fired, and.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
The exact same day now the Harbaugh gets fired, they
request that interview. So I think that definitely that should
still be out there, but no, it's a no go
in Tampa.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
As far as that that stuff goes. There will be
some offensive changes in Tampa. I will tell you that
at the end of the day there the Bucks are
going to make some offensive changes, then they should That
offense which Josh Grizzer did not look the same as he.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Did with Liam Coleman and Josh Grizzard, I can't think
of his name.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Some other news out there, Alabama Ty Simpson has declared
for the draft. I kind of think that's a bit
of a mistake on the one hand, because he's a
guy who clearly needs more reps. He looked like the
number one overall pick for like the first eight weeks
and then he looked like a guy definitely need to
go back to school after that. I think he has
higher upside than Mendoza. The floor with Mendoza is better,
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but again, a very weak quarterback class, so why not,
because it's going to be much more difficult to be
as high as as you could be, Like he'll probably
be the second or third quarterback in this class, whereas
next year it would be much later. This quarterback class
of everybody I've talked to was a disaster. Nobody that
I've talked to you thinks very highly of the you know,
they like Mendos as person, but as a prospect. I
got comparisons ranging from diet Kirk Cousins to Andy Dalton
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two point zero, you know, the Mendoza and at the
number one overall pick, I don't know if you're you
know you're the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I don't know that you.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I think you try to trick somebody, Come get that pick,
take you trade back.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
And I think it's hard to go with one of
those higher floor, lower ceiling guys. And Mendoza seems to
be built the right way, but it's harder to go
with one of those guys if you're one of these
teams drafting high in my opinion, because a lot of
these freakish athletes like Josh Allen, you can build an
offense around his rushing ability early on in his career,
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Whereas you know, at Josh Rosen to use the same
draft class that guy is going to because he doesn't
have the gutty physical traits, He's gonna need an offensive
line to help him look good. He's going to need
to know all the right answers on a given play
to look good. And so I think when you're inserting
a player like that who you know, the billing for him,
but Kirk Cousins in Andy Dalton, that's a player who
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doesn't elevate his surroundings.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's a player who's elevated by them, and.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
You're pinning him in the worst surroundings in the NFL
they're drafting first overall.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I think that's concerning. Yeah, there's there's quite a bit
going on with with this draft. It's fascinating to me.
It's one of the worst. It's not a top heavy
draft at all.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
It's fat in the middle. There is not like this
is not the year to own a top twelve pick.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I've heard multiple people compared to twenty thirteen, which is
legendarily like the worst draft class.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Ever kind of And it's just sort of balancing out
the post COVID era, right, because you had a bunch of.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Guys that got to stay in and all this kind
of stuff. So I backed up over a couple of
draft classes and made them strong.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
And now you've got to the end of that where
there's really not any COVID eligible.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
You know, people still.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
In these things, or you're at the tail end of that,
you know, with the guys who haven't come out, and
so you're getting the plummet drop off and that it
picks back up next year. So it's kind of funny
to see from a I guess a sociology angle, how
that kind of worked out.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Next year is going to be interesting, and I'm curious
to see how that factors in when the draft does
come around, you know, with teams trading up trading back.
I think it's pretty close to a consensus right now,
not only that twenty twenty seven is better, and I
know people say that every year, but it is extremely
true this time around. You look at the talent in
twenty twenty seven and there's like five six guys who
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would be the number one overall player in this class.
It's a much more loaded draft class, and I think
gms are smart enough to be aware of that. And
I wonder if there's a premium put on twenty twenty
seven capital over twenty twenty six capital, at.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Least for guys with with some job security.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, And it's you know, that's one of those things
you gotta be like, if I were the Jets or
the Raiders, I'm trying to trick somebody to come up
and get that pick. I'm rolling capital in the next draft.
I'm getting somebody else's first round or next year. Because
A I don't believe in these quarterbacks. I don't think
they're going to move them up into mediocre, you know, territory.
So the bad teams stay bad, right like that, you know,
and teams that trade up for quarterbacks like that tend
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to mortgage things and not get better. So it's one
of those things where if I were if I'm man,
if I'm the Raiders at Jets of Cardinals, I'm begging
people to come and get my draft pick. Yeah, the
Raiders said the worst offense in football this year, and
it's not because of the weapons like Ashton genty.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
It's had like twelve hundred yards from scrimmage this year
and eleven hundred were after contact.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
They had Gagobe Myers for a while before they traded him.
They had Brock powers you had. I mean, they've got
they've got pieces. Yeah, there's pieces to build around there.
That's going to be an interesting job.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And of course we've got two people from Denver in
contention for that job.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I say contention, both Davis Webb and Vance Joseph are
going to be interviewing for that job. Although I suspect
even though it is technically a head coaching interview for
Davis Webb, it really is an offensive coordinator interview for
Davis Web for Vance Joseph. You know, in that scenario,
and we've seen the Broncos have done that where they
bring in they did during the the Hacket Higher year
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where they brought in got somebody from each team in
the division and really you try to get some intel
and do that kind of stuff. And the Raiders I
think gets a smart move on their part. I mean,
if your Web and your advance, you take those interviews,
take every interview ever, it's a smart but that'll be fast.
I do believe that combo is in play there. You know,
Floraes and Dabel maybe in play there. Dabell may go
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to Dan Quinn in Washington, will see that might be
the offensive.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Coordinator that that they go with.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
As as they moved on from Cliff Kingsbury, who I
suspect will be the new offensive coordinator in Baltimore potentially
with head coach potentially Jesse Minter the defensive coordinator of
the Chargers. So we'll see, we'll see all this stuff
shakes out. Lots lots going on there. Uh with that
kind of stuff. I don't believe that. I think that
Web will either be in OC with fans or not
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be I don't think he'll bewhere else, you know, I
do not believe he'll be a head coach.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I don't believe he'll move on unless he is an
OC for I think.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Fans interesting because I don't I don't know where else
what else.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
He would be the the.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
OC of The only connection he has is to Brian
Dable and dabele like is looking for an OC job.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, not a head coaching job. That would make sense
that it would, it would go that way. I it
would be nice for the Broncos to hold on to
Davis Web, but if they did land in Las Vegas.
One thing I was thinking, who would you be more
worried about in that situation, the Broncos losing you know,
some of their brain trusts with Vance Joseph and Davis Web,
who now they're going to have to compete with, or
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would you be more worried for Hey man, this is
your second bite of the Apple Coaches seldom get a
three or get a third, excuse me, And you're betting
on the Las Vegas Raiders as an organization in a
division where you're having to play Andy Reid twice a year,
Sean Payton twice a year, and jimarr about.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Twice a year.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
One thing I will say is that the other side
of that is if you if you can get a
long enough contract, and I think if you go to
the Raiders, you have to demand a five or six
year deal. They fired five head coaches in five years.
You have to rebuild. They're looking you have to have
job security to do a rebuild. I think you go
in there doing what Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch did
and you say, hey, look, I need a six year deal.
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So I know you're committed to me for this rebuild
and you're not gonna pawn. You're not to change you know,
you're not gonna change ship again after a year like
you done five straight years, and so I think I
think that's the advantage that you get if you're that.
Plus the other advantage of that is this division's old, right,
Jim Harbaugh and Sean Payton are both sixty two years old.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
They are the oldest coaches.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
In the playoffs by far, which crazy Andy Reid is
old and getting close to it. And so I think
I think there's inherent value to being a younger coach
in this division. If you can, you know you're getting
to rebuild, you get the number one overall, pick tons
of cap space and money. Like on the surface, the
Raiders' job is attractive in that regard.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I think if you're given the leeway to that's the question,
you know, do it the right way. And I think
that's tough. Like they've they've put themselves in a tough
position right now. They tried to microwave the situation last offseason.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
With Pete Carroll.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Now you're dealing with a GM who's going to be
on their second head coach. How much job security does
John Spytech have. I'd think a good bit considering the
Brady ties, But I'd be dubious about that with the Raider.
I don't know if I want to be, you know,
a GM second head coach higher specifically for that organization. Yeah,
and that's gonna be one of those things you know
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that we'll see with that.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
But that is a pretty believe it or not, it's
an attractive job.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
They got space, they got money now because they're not
they're poor anymore.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
They've got some pieces. They've got draft capital. You know,
if you if you can get out of that number
one pick and roll that capital forward, you're kind of
set for.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
A couple of years.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
And a lot of the openings, like the Ravens being
a clear exception to this rule. Maybe the Falcons too
to an extent, but all the openings are with franchises
with huge red flags organizationally, with ownership whatever it may be. Yeah,
with the New York Giants, the ownership of the Giants
is respected, the mars respected. But I think the shamee
thing right there is kind of hanging over your head.
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You attaching yourself to a dead man walking at GM
and then you look at the other day.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Baltimore is a totally other animal because they're going to
pick their head coach. It's the opposite of everything else
where everybody, you know, head coaches are picking jobs or whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Baltimore is gonna be like your our guy, that's gonna
be it.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yes, Atlanta is you know a very respected owner and
Arthur Blank. You got a clean slate. Matt Matt Ryan's
taking over president of football ops. There's you know that
that situation is going to be. He's pretty attractive to
a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
They don't have a first round draft pick. Of course,
that's the the edge rusher they took last year. But
I think you'd most make the order back or Great
Avenue two one. Right, Well, I mean you're gonna get
to pick your own. But then you're also in a
bit of cap trouble, right, not trouble, but you're in
a bit of a cap crunch. You can make three
cuts and get to forty million, but you're you're not
as caps you know, uh, salient to some of these
other openings. And then you get to the just the
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terrible jobs, and that's Cleveland and Arizona. Terrible ownership. Arizona's
already shown that, you know, it doesn't matter whe they're
going to churn and burn on your coaches if you
don't do it in three years, and you're not gonna
have the resources to do it.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
You know. So the Arizona had a record.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
They're the twelfth hardest schedule in NFL history, a record
number of guys percentage of cap on injured reserve, and
they were competitive for at the season anyway, and they
still they still jettison their head coach. It was It's
just it was just weird. Uh, Cleveland, we all know
what Cleveland is. I'm not even gonna elve it of that.
And honestly, Schwartz could probably just take the promotion tomorrow.
I think that's that's probably the direction they wind up going. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
That reminds me of like Lovey Smith in Houston, or
David Coley and Houston, where also with Deshaun Watson, you
knew you were going to have these kind of weird
lean years where just everything was a mess, and you
kind of went, hey, let's just find a sacrificial lamb
head coach to kind of get us through this lean
year or two, and then we'll really launch this thing,
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you know, a couple of years when we can get
a quarterback, get a head coach.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
But right now, we'll just lay the foundation. And it's
worked out pretty well for Houston obviously.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, And so if you can get away with it,
and you can do that and you can keep everybody
getting you know, sort of understand what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Although Lovey tried to Lovey tried.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
To hose him on the way out the door with
that last little did you know, and it wound up
back door in their way into wound up back door
in their.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Way to c. J. Stroud. But that was that's that's
how that stuff kind of goes.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Several other things out here. You know, Detroit's looking for
an OC. David Blow is going to be in competition
for that. He's a quarterbacks coach for Washington right now.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
He also has experienced Aaron Detroit as he played for them. Yeah,
so he'll be he'll be in consideration for that. They're
looking for somebody after they fired John Morton. I got
a lot of people ask me about JK.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Dobbins.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Dobbins, I don't think you'll see back to the AFC
Championship game. At minimum, we'll see. I don't believe he's
back for this game. I don't believe we'll be back
for the.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Game after that. We'll see. As far as the other guys,
Brandon Jones will not be back this year. Uh. Luke Wattenberg.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
The earliest he could be back would be the AC
Championship for Super Bowl. And there's another name I'm missing
that also would be AFC championship for Super Bowl Dre
Greenlaw No, uh, who's.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Is there somebody on ir that I'm not thinking of?
I think, so let me look it up quick. But
they would.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
But anyway, as far as that stuff goes, Wattenberg and
you know and all that, that's that's how that, how
that goes five six, six nine zero is the tex
last after well, don't have a problem with anybody trying
to with the latter in careers. However, how many times
would coordinator try to be a head coach? Maybe there's
something some coordinators can't handle the change, similar to college
coaches moving up as dirty Harry said, a man's got
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a those limitations.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
There's something to that.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
But the other side of these seas and it's weird
to me, it was a Phenomenon's weird to me. The
NFL is the only place I ever see people fans
that are upset that a team wants to hire a guy.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
With more experience, Right, No, rage dreads always in. It's
the weird.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I'm like, dude, you don't think people can get better
and learn from their mistakes?
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah? I think it did.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Comes down to the nature of the retread. You know,
like I get them not wanting a known commodity when
it's like Matt Naggy, Matt Naggi interviewing for the Titans job.
That would annoy the heck out of me if I
was a Titans fan. On the flip side, Steve Spagnolo,
who has an even worse record as a head coach, George,
he hasn't had a chance to be a head coach
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in a decade, you know, and has spent all this
great time under Andy Reid building that defense, developing all
these young players.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
His resumes did different.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
It's Joseph you know, he has changed dramatically as a
coach from who he was when he got that first
bite at the Apple in Denver. Those are the re
treads I think are absolutely dan Quinn, your guy like
got a chance to totally reinvent himself in Dallas, proved
that he could get some second bite at the Apple.
I think that's very different from like a Pat Shermer,
where it's hey, let's just give this guy a go again.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Because we can't come up with a more interesting name.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah, this in Spagnola was bad bad with the Rams,
like fifteen or something.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, it was awful, like this is.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
It was awful, record settingly bad offenses that he had.
I think he's, you know, Matt Naggie. It's just one
of the things that fascinates me. How many people I
have to tell Matt Naggie is a winning record as
a head coach.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Ma Naggie is one losing season. He went to the
playoffs twice. Thank you, Vic Fangio.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I'm just I'm just saying, well, Matt Naggie was with Chicago. Yeah,
that's where we hired him from, right, But I mean
just saying, like he it wasn't all Vic, those are
those years, weren't all of it.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
But he's you know, Matt.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Aggie was a guy who who went to the playoffs twice,
has a winning record and had some of the most
atrocious offenses because they had justin fields in there that
anybody had ever seen.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I do believe he's gonna wind up with the Tennessee job. Man.
I feel bad for cam Ward.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I'm not the biggest Matt Naggie fan, but maybe he
can he can prove Hiss turnover a new leaf.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Yeah, we'll have to see how that works out for him.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
So we've got cu busmen's basketball coming up here next
as the eleven to three Buffs are at home taking
on the eighth and six Utah Running Youths.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Pre game starts next right here.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
Broncos here helping.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
On the official home of the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
All Right, all night ko.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
A, Welcome to a Broncos country tonight. Benjamin Alibright here
with you short show post CEU Buffs Men's Basketball Edition.
I hope you guys are having a good evening. Appreciate
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you be wrong for the ride.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Busy day around the world. Try to avoid some of
that busy day in the league we had.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Obviously, we found out that uh, that Todd Bowles was
getting retained by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We still don't
know about Mike McDaniel, though right now it appears that
he's still being retained.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Sys.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
The John Harbaugh news tends to spread further and teams acquire.
Nine teams have inquired about John Harbaugh, which means several
that currently have head coaches.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
We'll get into that some of that.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
In a minute. Currently, one of the stories that happens
to be breaking right now is Kansasity Chief's wide receiver
or She Rice, who has been in trouble multiple times before,
is now being accused of domestic violence. Sam McDowell of
the Kansas City Star has obtained a response to the
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Chiefs and says they a club is aware of the
allegations on social media in communication with the National Football League,
with no further comments at this time. The allegations come
from Dakota Jones, who has two children with Rice, said
in an Instagram post today that she had broken up
with him two months ago. Among other things she accused
him of is putting hands on her, locking her outdoors
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in ten degree weather, multiple instances of cheating, cutting up
her shoes and clothes, and abandoned the family in Kansas
while leaving for his native Texas. Instagram post includes several
pictures of bruises on Jones's face, legs, shoulders, and chest,
as Willis damaged property around her home. Jones also implies
there's an existing legal agreement with Rice because of everything
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he's put me through, which he allegedly doesn't follow. From
her post, she says, quote, I've known this man for years,
all caps. He tries to put on this persona like
he's Dad of the year. He does the bare minimum,
and I have to beg for that. I've protected his
image too long and I'm done doing that. It's time
to protect my peace, protect my children, and stand up
for myself and quote. The allegations, of course, represent a
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potential second major off field issue involving Rice, who was
suspended for the first six games of this season due
to a hit and run accident from April of two
thousand and four. That incident involved Rice drag racing at
high speeds in a Lamborghini on a Dallas Highway, racing
a friend in a Corvette. Two cars cause a major collision,
triggeringminal charges in a weave of lawsuits from the car's occupants.
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Rice eventually pled guilty to two felony charges and was
sentenced to five years probation and thirty days in jail.
He also agreed to a one point one million dollars
settlement with one of the victims, whose attorney later claimed
he hadn't sent a cent months later. The Chiefs stood
by Rice throughout the process. The star tight end Travis
Kelcey among other players to wear a free four shirt
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during warm ups while the whiteout was serving his suspension. Four,
being Rice's number quarterback Pat Mahomes sat a month after
the crash. He was trying to mentor Rice into becoming
both the best person he could be in society while
head coach Andy Reid praised his growth and training camp
back in August. Rice finished the season with five hundred
and seventy one receiving yards fifty on fifty three receptions
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of five receiving touchdowns off of seventy eight targets. He's
one of the most productive members of the Kansas City offense.
The former second round picks got seventeen hundred and ninety
seven receiving yards fourteen touchdowns across twenty eight career games,
ran eleventh in the NFL and receiving yards per game
this past year. Missing most of twenty twenty four due
to an LCL and hamstring injury, it was placed on
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season injured reserve in week seventeen this year due to
a concussion. Rice isn't the only Chiefs wide receiver facing
allegations from a former partner. Xavier Worthies ex fiance was
granted a protective order in March after accusing him of
abuse or The later filed a lawsuit alledging she assaulted
him that stole or destroyed more than one hundred and
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fifty thousand dollars in cash and property as well. I
will keep an eye on those stories going forward, but
the Kansas City Chiefs once again, and Legal hot Water
as another player has off field issues and.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
You guys can look that stuff up. It's audience game.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I'm not gonna on my account, I'm not going to
be sharing those photos and all that kind of stuff
because it's the ledged at this point. But it's out
there and certainly, you know, anybody can can go look
at it and see it and and go from there.
Teams continue to get interviews UH sorted out. Broncos offensive
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coordinator Davis Webb has been requested as an interview for
the Raiders, as well as defensive coordinator Vance Joseph. I
suspect the Davis Webb interview is more of a more more.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Of a an interview.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
For offensive coordinator on staff than it is as a
head coach. Web's very young and and only been at
this couple of years. Has never had play calling duties
in a regular season game. Now, he did do it
in a preseason game, the Colts game and had very
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very good success. But you know, he really just does
not have any experience whatsoever. He's been with the Broncos
for three years. He got a title bump this past
season to you know, past game coordinator and quarterbacks coach
to kind of keep him keep him around. He was
a third round pick back in twenty seventeen out of
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Texas Tech, and he has four we played for fourteen,
well three teams, the Giants twice, but Giants, Jets, Bills
played for the Giants twice. And he turns thirty one
later this month, and that is incredibly young to be
a head coach in the NFL. Most guys who start
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head coaching that young just just don't succeed. Sean McVay
was a little older than that, maybe the lone exception,
but you know, as you as you look at this thing,
guys that are that young just just struggle a little bit.
And it's tough when you're that young and you've only
been coaching for a couple of years to have put
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together enough people that you're familiar with to be able
to build out an NFL coaching staff. That's that's the
other part of this is, you know, I don't know
that Davis Webb has enough guys to build out staff.
And that's something that you know, obviously as he gets
into the room for those interviews that he will have
to explain and that kind of stuff. I'm not saying
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he shouldn't take the interviews. Absolutely should and good for him,
and he's an up and comer in this league. But
the idea of somebody who has been a quarterbacks coach
for three seasons now would be ready to be a
head coach in the NFL just does not seem it
does not seem viable to me. We'll see, you know,
how that shakes out.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Ultimately.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Web It was a pretty good quarterback back in college
and actually announced his transfer to Colorado back in January
of twenty sixteen when he was at Texas Tech, and
ultimately he revealed after that was in January, and then
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in May he decided he was going to go to
Cal Berkeley instead as head coached Sonny Dyke's you know,
recruited him out there. Wound up having a decent season
out there at Cal thirty seven touchdowns, twelve picks, forty
two hundre and ney five yards, and he was semi
finalists for the Dave O'Bryant Award, Earl Campbell, Tyler Rose Award,
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All Packed twelve, Johnny Golden, Johnny United Schooling arm But
you know, end of the day wasn't quite it in
the NFL as far as a quarterback, but seems to
have it as coaching and good for him to getting noticed.
But both he and vanced Joseph for Up for the
Raiders job vance. Joseph up is interviewing for all the
jobs out there except for currently Cleveland and Baltimore. He
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has interviewed scripts in for all the available jobs. I
don't believe he's a candidate for some of them, like Tennessee,
it's probably going to Mattanaggie. Now he figures to be
the he's the leader in the clubhouse for you know,
for that job, and so that's that's kind of where
that's at. I don't know that he's a candidate in Atlanta.
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I kind of think that they want either Harball, Stefanski,
our Kubiak. So you know, I don't think he's a
candidate for some of these jobs, but you know, he
interviewed for him anyway, can't hurt. I do believe he's
in play in Arizona with the Raiders and with the Giants.
We'll see, you know, as far as that goes. So
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obviously the Ravens now the pinnacle job is they they
fired Horrball but that's gonna be tough because they kind
of sort of pick what they want, you know. It's
not like other jobs where you got people vying for it.
The Ravens are just going to kind of pick their
dude and go for it. They're that kind of organization.
They've only had three three head coaches in their entire history.
Ted Marchibroda the first two years they were in Baltimore,
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and then of course Brian Billick after that, and then
John Harbaugh took over and had been there for eighteen seasons.
A couple other things out there. Let's see, Dallas fired
defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus. That was largely large expected. They'll
have several people in the mix there, and I would
say that, uh, they'll look at guys like Brian Flores,
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Jim Leonard Advance, Joseph John Gannon. They'll cast a net
for that defensive coordinator position and and try to get
that settled there. That's a that's a marquee position there
in Dallas. The Washington Commanders moved on from offensive coordinator
Cliff Kingsbury, who is expected to get an interview for
the offensive coordinator job in Baltimore. Joe Witt, you know,
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was already h taken play calling away by Dan Quinn.
He was. He was let go as well. The Atlanta Falcons,
of course, had already fired Raheem Morrison general manager Terry Fattenhaut.
The Falcons, who finished a three way tie for first
place in the NFC South, however, due to tie breakers,
finish behind Carolina who made the playoffs, Tampa who didn't,
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and you know, ultimately you finished third in the division
even though you're tied for first and they had won
four straight leading up to that. That was That was
one of those things that it really felt like a
move to just clean house. Since you're bringing in all
new administration. You move in Rich McKay on your fire
and Terry font note Matt Ryan's gonna come in as
the president of football operations.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
That's one of those situations.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Where, you know, end of the day, I think they
just decided it would be easier to just give a
clean slate there and go from there and not not
through any fault of maybe Rahie Morris's own that he
gets let go in that kind of house cleaning, The
Browns parted ways with head coach Kevin Stefanski.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
About two hours after.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
He was let go, the Raiders let everybody know they
were moving on for Pete Carroll after one season. And
then of course the Cardinals fired John Gannon down there
in Arizona, and I think they're about to find out
they're not a destination job at the end of the day. Obviously,
Brian Callahan and Brian Dable had already lost their jobs
in season, and there were a couple other guys out
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there that, you know, people were curious about whether or
not they were going to get to keep their jobs.
You know, you look at the situation in Indy, although
you know, I don't think anybody was really worried about
Shane Stike and more about Chris Ballard. Both of them
kept their jobs. Cincinnati, who notoriously cheap, decided to keep
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their head coach Act Taylor and general manager Duke Tobin again,
and then you know, Todd Bowles announced today that he's back.
The only real question mark of teams that are not
in the playoffs is Mike McDaniel, who was tentatively expected
to be back, but the Harbaugh thing may change the
calculus on that. And then, of course in the playoffs
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will Mike Tomlin, you know, maybe step away from the
Steelers and take a TV job. That that's something that
I think, you know, people are are looking at. Would
either the Buffalo Bills or potentially the Green Bay Packers
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move on from their head coaches if they go one
and done. And I know it sounds silly because Lafleur
is a good coach and all that kind of stuff,
but there's some real sentiment there that that maybe he's
not safe in Green Bay. Sean McDermott and Buffalo. You know,
if you don't make some headway there that looks like
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it's that looks like it's tough, and that's that's one
of those things. I mean, if you don't make some
some headway in the playoffs, you may have reached the plateau.
You may you might get what I call John Fox, right,
which is what happened here in Denver where John Fox,
you know, kind of kind of took the Broncos as
far as he could take them, and you know what
they started doing was looking at, okay, can we get
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somebody to get us over the hump here? They went
out got Gary Kubiak and then we all know how
that we all know how that went, you know, after that.
So the Tomblin thing, though, that's that's one of those
things I would say is probably a little more real
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than people think. I don't know that he's going to
pack it up and go to television, maybe for a year,
maybe for good. But you know, that's one of those
things where it's more realistic than people think. And this
is the same thing when Bill Kauer.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Left.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You know, people were like, now and he'll be back
and all this kind of stuff, and then he wasn't.
So you know, I don't know. Tomlin's got a TV
job waiting on him if he wants it. To question
is whether or not he winds up taking it. Some
other moves real quick. The Chiefs moved on from their
wide receiver coach Connor Embry. Emby been there since twenty nineteen,
was a defensive assistant, then an offensive quality control coach,
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and they became receivers coach in twenty twenty three. But
the Chiefs have felt that that was not that that
was not working, So most of that staff will stay intact.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
But that's one of.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Those things that you know, end of the day they
move on from him, and we'll see, we'll see how
that goes. Todd Bowles, who is safe, met with the
Bucks ownership and he's gonna hold interviews with his coaches.
Did today and do that some of that tomorrow. They
will probably be making changes on the offensive side of
the ball, and so you know, you'll see a little
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bit of a shake up there, which you know is
fascinating because the defense was really the liability in Tampa
this year. The Baltimore Ravens have requested some interviews Seahawks
OC Clint Kubiak, Dolphins D c Anthey Weaver Weaver as
a history there. We'll see how that works out. Obviously,
like I said, I think Jesse mentors somebody they will
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once he gets eliminated from the playoffs. If they do,
somebody they will look at as their potential next head coach.
Obviously clicks for Kingsbury is somebody probably for the OC job,
and we'll see how that works out. The Washington Commanders
to interview the Raiders d C. Patrick Graham to take
over for Joe Witt. He's you know, he's heavily in
the in the mix there. The Raiders. We talked about
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Vance Joseph and Davis Webb. They're also going to interview
Matt Naggi, Clint Kubiak, and those are the main names
that they've got out there right now. We'll see a
flores is on that list and kind of go from there.
Raheem Morris, who got fired by the Falcons, is meeting
with several teams. He could wind up as a defensive
coordinator in Washington, but he's also meeting with several teams,
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including the Cardinals, Giants, and Titans about their head coaching job.
Atlanta went sixteen and eighteen under Morris in those two years,
but it looked like they were finally making some headway
at the end of the the end of the season.
The Cleveland Browns, who have the weirdest asks that looks
like so far, have requested interview Bengals offensive coordinator Dan Pitcher.
And that's fun to me because Pitcher is, you know,
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their rivals. Oh see, so probably an intel move. We'll
see how that goes. Broncos Country tonight.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Back after this.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
The text line, I'm not sure what I stumbled in here, Zach.
What all the urine on the text line is about?
Or drinking urine, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Lots of that, lots of salcine. Between Dave and Rick,
there's a whole.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Lot to catch you up on. I have Yeah, I
have no idea what's going on here. It feels like
maybe the bump back music should be R Kelly or something.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
At this point. There's good news today. Dave promised me
he'd never make me drink his urine. Yeah. I don't
know about that. I don't know where to go with that.
I mean, at least he promised that he would never
do it.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I think if you want to be, you know, a
glass half full, No pun intended that you got to
take that route.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, I was telling them, But you know I used
to frank people. I used to sneak in put ambasol
on the toothbrush and you know you can toe. Didn't
rush your tee because her mouth and be numb. The
only prank I would have that would have anything to
do with with the urine drinking thing. What else? In
the hospital one time and they give you before you
get these these tests done, they give you this thing
apple juice to drink, right, And so I just left
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that and poured the apple juice in the You're analysis
cup and then let's put that back on the on
the night stand or whatever. And then when the nurse
came in there and she kind of picked it up
and looked at it funny and was like shaking it
like that.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I was like what. I was like, hey, let me
see that from an I like, oh, sor it's a
bad sample.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Let me run it back through and then drank the
apple juice out of the that's a good bit, you know,
just you know, I mean, that's a harmless, cheeky fun
stuff like that. Would never actually make someone consume it.
That's not that's not funny. I think it's a crime.
Cruel it is now it used to be, but it's
just cruel and weird. Yeah yeah, okay, okay, I was
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because I'm like, what are we what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
That's what I get for. No, Dave claimed he would
never do it, so again, but you know.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
The positives would never do that, Like I know, I
think I know Dave Logan well enough that Dave would
never do something like.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
That because Dave's they's good.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Dave's game for laugh But that's not that's that's not
even funny though. There's nothing funny about that. No, it's
it's it was wasn't it what this what's his name
got in trouble for the Center?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah, well it wasn't It wasn't p but yes, okay, yeah,
that's right, that's right, Yes, right, I could perceive.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I member, that's what I.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Was thinking about when I said this is I'm pretty confident.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
It's a crime memories going in my old age. Man,
I couldn't remember which bodily fluid in that particular case.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
So there you go. Interesting day around the league.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Again, is the fallout from coaching firings in the NFL
continues to I guess, you know, sort of spiral outwards
as it does after Black Monday. Although we found out
today the Tideles will be safe.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
That's that's a development. Yeah, he will be safe.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
They called about Horrball, But ultimately, I think, you know,
Harball has kind of explained to him, a look, I'm
gonna want to clean slate, I'm gonna want to run this,
I'm gonna want my own GM and you know, and
all that kind of stuff. And he doesn't have a
bit of a previous relationship with Jason light but I
think he wants his I specifically, and I think Tampa
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was like all right, this is not what we're getting into.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
We'll roll it back with bowls and do a search
next year.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, Jason Light is calling the shots in Tampa. He
understandably doesn't want to hand that responsibility over to John Harbaugh.
A place like the Giants where you know, yes there's
a GM in place, but he's on a very hot seat,
a very short leash. That makes sense. I think the Falcons,
of course, a similar case. Maybe even the Titans where
there's kind of a weird power vacuum in that front
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office maybe or I could help clean that up.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
He's not going to the Titans, I'll tell you that.
It'll be the Giants or the Falcons probably end of
the day. Makes these Giants what horball Now, I'm not
convinced that he that they're his first choice. There is
he's their first choice. I'm not concerned, you know, with
the Shane situation there. I think, you know, this would
have to be like Liam Cohen and Trent Balke were.
Ultimately they just moved on from Joe Shane and brought.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
His guy in. But we'll see.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I think the Falcons are, you know, right now set
up to be there, and then I'm not one hundred
convins that Miami doesn't try to take a run at it.
They called, despite other reporting out there, they called, they
haven't made a move. They don't really have to make
a move. They've got Mike McDaniel in place right now.
And the reason places like Tampa and Miami are publicly
denying that they make calls is because they have other
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guys in the job right now.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, you're not going to publicly tell people, yeah, we're
sniffing around John Harbaugh and then wind up not getting
him and stick with with Mike McDaniel. A lot of
people have been dismissing it by pointing to who Miami's
had in for.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
A GM interview. It's a lot of San Francisco guys.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Notably, though, one of the people they've had in for
that GM interview is the assistant GM in Los Angeles
with the Chargers, SAMs to me right now, Yeah, and
he has experienced dating back with Sean Harby, spent a
lot of time in that Baltimore organization.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
So that was the name just showed up when Harball
got fired, and.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
The exact same day now the Harbaugh gets fired, they
request that interview. So I think that definitely that should
still be out there, but no, it's a no go
in Tampa.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
As far as that that stuff goes. There will be
some offensive changes in Tampa. I will tell you that
at the end of the day there the Bucks are
going to make some offensive changes, then they should That
offense which Josh Grizzer did not look the same as he.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Did with Liam Coleman and Josh Grizzard, I can't think
of his name.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Some other news out there, Alabama Ty Simpson has declared
for the draft. I kind of think that's a bit
of a mistake on the one hand, because he's a
guy who clearly needs more reps. He looked like the
number one overall pick for like the first eight weeks
and then he looked like a guy definitely need to
go back to school after that. I think he has
higher upside than Mendoza. The floor with Mendoza is better,
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but again, a very weak quarterback class, so why not,
because it's going to be much more difficult to be
as high as as you could be, Like he'll probably
be the second or third quarterback in this class, whereas
next year it would be much later. This quarterback class
of everybody I've talked to was a disaster. Nobody that
I've talked to you thinks very highly of the you know,
they like Mendos as person, but as a prospect. I
got comparisons ranging from diet Kirk Cousins to Andy Dalton
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two point zero, you know, the Mendoza and at the
number one overall pick, I don't know if you're you
know you're the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I don't know that you.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I think you try to trick somebody, Come get that pick,
take you trade back.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
And I think it's hard to go with one of
those higher floor, lower ceiling guys. And Mendoza seems to
be built the right way, but it's harder to go
with one of those guys if you're one of these
teams drafting high in my opinion, because a lot of
these freakish athletes like Josh Allen, you can build an
offense around his rushing ability early on in his career,
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Whereas you know, at Josh Rosen to use the same
draft class that guy is going to because he doesn't
have the gutty physical traits, He's gonna need an offensive
line to help him look good. He's going to need
to know all the right answers on a given play
to look good. And so I think when you're inserting
a player like that who you know, the billing for him,
but Kirk Cousins in Andy Dalton, that's a player who
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doesn't elevate his surroundings.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's a player who's elevated by them, and.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
You're pinning him in the worst surroundings in the NFL
they're drafting first overall.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I think that's concerning. Yeah, there's there's quite a bit
going on with with this draft. It's fascinating to me.
It's one of the worst. It's not a top heavy
draft at all.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
It's fat in the middle. There is not like this
is not the year to own a top twelve pick.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I've heard multiple people compared to twenty thirteen, which is
legendarily like the worst draft class.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Ever kind of And it's just sort of balancing out
the post COVID era, right, because you had a bunch of.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Guys that got to stay in and all this kind
of stuff. So I backed up over a couple of
draft classes and made them strong.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
And now you've got to the end of that where
there's really not any COVID eligible.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
You know, people still.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
In these things, or you're at the tail end of that,
you know, with the guys who haven't come out, and
so you're getting the plummet drop off and that it
picks back up next year. So it's kind of funny
to see from a I guess a sociology angle, how
that kind of worked out.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Next year is going to be interesting, and I'm curious
to see how that factors in when the draft does
come around, you know, with teams trading up trading back.
I think it's pretty close to a consensus right now,
not only that twenty twenty seven is better, and I
know people say that every year, but it is extremely
true this time around. You look at the talent in
twenty twenty seven and there's like five six guys who
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would be the number one overall player in this class.
It's a much more loaded draft class, and I think
gms are smart enough to be aware of that. And
I wonder if there's a premium put on twenty twenty
seven capital over twenty twenty six capital, at.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Least for guys with with some job security.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, And it's you know, that's one of those things
you gotta be like, if I were the Jets or
the Raiders, I'm trying to trick somebody to come up
and get that pick. I'm rolling capital in the next draft.
I'm getting somebody else's first round or next year. Because
A I don't believe in these quarterbacks. I don't think
they're going to move them up into mediocre, you know, territory.
So the bad teams stay bad, right like that, you know,
and teams that trade up for quarterbacks like that tend
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to mortgage things and not get better. So it's one
of those things where if I were if I'm man,
if I'm the Raiders at Jets of Cardinals, I'm begging
people to come and get my draft pick. Yeah, the
Raiders said the worst offense in football this year, and
it's not because of the weapons like Ashton genty.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
It's had like twelve hundred yards from scrimmage this year
and eleven hundred were after contact.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
They had Gagobe Myers for a while before they traded him.
They had Brock powers you had. I mean, they've got
they've got pieces. Yeah, there's pieces to build around there.
That's going to be an interesting job.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And of course we've got two people from Denver in
contention for that job.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I say contention, both Davis Webb and Vance Joseph are
going to be interviewing for that job. Although I suspect
even though it is technically a head coaching interview for
Davis Webb, it really is an offensive coordinator interview for
Davis Web for Vance Joseph. You know, in that scenario,
and we've seen the Broncos have done that where they
bring in they did during the the Hacket Higher year
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where they brought in got somebody from each team in
the division and really you try to get some intel
and do that kind of stuff. And the Raiders I
think gets a smart move on their part. I mean,
if your Web and your advance, you take those interviews,
take every interview ever, it's a smart but that'll be fast.
I do believe that combo is in play there. You know,
Floraes and Dabel maybe in play there. Dabell may go
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to Dan Quinn in Washington, will see that might be
the offensive.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Coordinator that that they go with.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
As as they moved on from Cliff Kingsbury, who I
suspect will be the new offensive coordinator in Baltimore potentially
with head coach potentially Jesse Minter the defensive coordinator of
the Chargers. So we'll see, we'll see all this stuff
shakes out. Lots lots going on there. Uh with that
kind of stuff. I don't believe that. I think that
Web will either be in OC with fans or not
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be I don't think he'll bewhere else, you know, I
do not believe he'll be a head coach.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I don't believe he'll move on unless he is an
OC for I think.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Fans interesting because I don't I don't know where else
what else.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
He would be the the.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
OC of The only connection he has is to Brian
Dable and dabele like is looking for an OC job.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, not a head coaching job. That would make sense
that it would, it would go that way. I it
would be nice for the Broncos to hold on to
Davis Web, but if they did land in Las Vegas.
One thing I was thinking, who would you be more
worried about in that situation, the Broncos losing you know,
some of their brain trusts with Vance Joseph and Davis Web,
who now they're going to have to compete with, or
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would you be more worried for Hey man, this is
your second bite of the Apple Coaches seldom get a
three or get a third, excuse me, And you're betting
on the Las Vegas Raiders as an organization in a
division where you're having to play Andy Reid twice a year,
Sean Payton twice a year, and jimarr about.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Twice a year.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
One thing I will say is that the other side
of that is if you if you can get a
long enough contract, and I think if you go to
the Raiders, you have to demand a five or six
year deal. They fired five head coaches in five years.
You have to rebuild. They're looking you have to have
job security to do a rebuild. I think you go
in there doing what Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch did
and you say, hey, look, I need a six year deal.
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So I know you're committed to me for this rebuild
and you're not gonna pawn. You're not to change you know,
you're not gonna change ship again after a year like
you done five straight years, and so I think I
think that's the advantage that you get if you're that.
Plus the other advantage of that is this division's old, right,
Jim Harbaugh and Sean Payton are both sixty two years old.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
They are the oldest coaches.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
In the playoffs by far, which crazy Andy Reid is
old and getting close to it. And so I think
I think there's inherent value to being a younger coach
in this division. If you can, you know you're getting
to rebuild, you get the number one overall, pick tons
of cap space and money. Like on the surface, the
Raiders' job is attractive in that regard.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I think if you're given the leeway to that's the question,
you know, do it the right way. And I think
that's tough. Like they've they've put themselves in a tough
position right now. They tried to microwave the situation last offseason.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
With Pete Carroll.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Now you're dealing with a GM who's going to be
on their second head coach. How much job security does
John Spytech have. I'd think a good bit considering the
Brady ties, But I'd be dubious about that with the Raider.
I don't know if I want to be, you know,
a GM second head coach higher specifically for that organization. Yeah,
and that's gonna be one of those things you know
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that we'll see with that.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
But that is a pretty believe it or not, it's
an attractive job.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
They got space, they got money now because they're not
they're poor anymore.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
They've got some pieces. They've got draft capital. You know,
if you if you can get out of that number
one pick and roll that capital forward, you're kind of
set for.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
A couple of years.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
And a lot of the openings, like the Ravens being
a clear exception to this rule. Maybe the Falcons too
to an extent, but all the openings are with franchises
with huge red flags organizationally, with ownership whatever it may be. Yeah,
with the New York Giants, the ownership of the Giants
is respected, the mars respected. But I think the shamee
thing right there is kind of hanging over your head.
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You attaching yourself to a dead man walking at GM
and then you look at the other day.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Baltimore is a totally other animal because they're going to
pick their head coach. It's the opposite of everything else
where everybody, you know, head coaches are picking jobs or whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Baltimore is gonna be like your our guy, that's gonna
be it.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yes, Atlanta is you know a very respected owner and
Arthur Blank. You got a clean slate. Matt Matt Ryan's
taking over president of football ops. There's you know that
that situation is going to be. He's pretty attractive to
a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
They don't have a first round draft pick. Of course,
that's the the edge rusher they took last year. But
I think you'd most make the order back or Great
Avenue two one. Right, Well, I mean you're gonna get
to pick your own. But then you're also in a
bit of cap trouble, right, not trouble, but you're in
a bit of a cap crunch. You can make three
cuts and get to forty million, but you're you're not
as caps you know, uh, salient to some of these
other openings. And then you get to the just the
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terrible jobs, and that's Cleveland and Arizona. Terrible ownership. Arizona's
already shown that, you know, it doesn't matter whe they're
going to churn and burn on your coaches if you
don't do it in three years, and you're not gonna
have the resources to do it.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
You know. So the Arizona had a record.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
They're the twelfth hardest schedule in NFL history, a record
number of guys percentage of cap on injured reserve, and
they were competitive for at the season anyway, and they
still they still jettison their head coach. It was It's
just it was just weird. Uh, Cleveland, we all know
what Cleveland is. I'm not even gonna elve it of that.
And honestly, Schwartz could probably just take the promotion tomorrow.
I think that's that's probably the direction they wind up going. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
That reminds me of like Lovey Smith in Houston, or
David Coley and Houston, where also with Deshaun Watson, you
knew you were going to have these kind of weird
lean years where just everything was a mess, and you
kind of went, hey, let's just find a sacrificial lamb
head coach to kind of get us through this lean
year or two, and then we'll really launch this thing,
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you know, a couple of years when we can get
a quarterback, get a head coach.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
But right now, we'll just lay the foundation. And it's
worked out pretty well for Houston obviously.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, And so if you can get away with it,
and you can do that and you can keep everybody
getting you know, sort of understand what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Although Lovey tried to Lovey tried.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
To hose him on the way out the door with
that last little did you know, and it wound up
back door in their way into wound up back door
in their.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Way to c. J. Stroud. But that was that's that's
how that stuff kind of goes.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Several other things out here. You know, Detroit's looking for
an OC. David Blow is going to be in competition
for that. He's a quarterbacks coach for Washington right now.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
He also has experienced Aaron Detroit as he played for them. Yeah,
so he'll be he'll be in consideration for that. They're
looking for somebody after they fired John Morton. I got
a lot of people ask me about JK.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Dobbins.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Dobbins, I don't think you'll see back to the AFC
Championship game. At minimum, we'll see. I don't believe he's
back for this game. I don't believe we'll be back
for the.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Game after that. We'll see. As far as the other guys,
Brandon Jones will not be back this year. Uh. Luke Wattenberg.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
The earliest he could be back would be the AC
Championship for Super Bowl. And there's another name I'm missing
that also would be AFC championship for Super Bowl Dre
Greenlaw No, uh, who's.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Is there somebody on ir that I'm not thinking of?
I think, so let me look it up quick. But
they would.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
But anyway, as far as that stuff goes, Wattenberg and
you know and all that, that's that's how that, how
that goes five six, six nine zero is the tex
last after well, don't have a problem with anybody trying
to with the latter in careers. However, how many times
would coordinator try to be a head coach? Maybe there's
something some coordinators can't handle the change, similar to college
coaches moving up as dirty Harry said, a man's got
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a those limitations.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
There's something to that.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
But the other side of these seas and it's weird
to me, it was a Phenomenon's weird to me. The
NFL is the only place I ever see people fans
that are upset that a team wants to hire a guy.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
With more experience, Right, No, rage dreads always in. It's
the weird.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I'm like, dude, you don't think people can get better
and learn from their mistakes?
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah? I think it did.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Comes down to the nature of the retread. You know,
like I get them not wanting a known commodity when
it's like Matt Naggy, Matt Naggi interviewing for the Titans job.
That would annoy the heck out of me if I
was a Titans fan. On the flip side, Steve Spagnolo,
who has an even worse record as a head coach, George,
he hasn't had a chance to be a head coach
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in a decade, you know, and has spent all this
great time under Andy Reid building that defense, developing all
these young players.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
His resumes did different.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
It's Joseph you know, he has changed dramatically as a
coach from who he was when he got that first
bite at the Apple in Denver. Those are the re
treads I think are absolutely dan Quinn, your guy like
got a chance to totally reinvent himself in Dallas, proved
that he could get some second bite at the Apple.
I think that's very different from like a Pat Shermer,
where it's hey, let's just give this guy a go again.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Because we can't come up with a more interesting name.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah, this in Spagnola was bad bad with the Rams,
like fifteen or something.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, it was awful, like this is.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
It was awful, record settingly bad offenses that he had.
I think he's, you know, Matt Naggie. It's just one
of the things that fascinates me. How many people I
have to tell Matt Naggie is a winning record as
a head coach.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Ma Naggie is one losing season. He went to the
playoffs twice. Thank you, Vic Fangio.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I'm just I'm just saying, well, Matt Naggie was with Chicago. Yeah,
that's where we hired him from, right, But I mean
just saying, like he it wasn't all Vic, those are
those years, weren't all of it.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
But he's you know, Matt.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Aggie was a guy who who went to the playoffs twice,
has a winning record and had some of the most
atrocious offenses because they had justin fields in there that
anybody had ever seen.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I do believe he's gonna wind up with the Tennessee job. Man.
I feel bad for cam Ward.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I'm not the biggest Matt Naggie fan, but maybe he
can he can prove Hiss turnover a new leaf.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Yeah, we'll have to see how that works out for him.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
So we've got cu busmen's basketball coming up here next
as the eleven to three Buffs are at home taking
on the eighth and six Utah Running Youths.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Pre game starts next right here.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
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