01-09-26 Hour 2 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The ninety three.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Since I just watched an NFL playoff prediction online, long
story short predicting a Jacksonville Seattle super.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Bowl, what do you think?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm not even sure Jacksonville gets out of the open round,
much less a Jacksonville Seattle super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
But everybody's free to make their own prediction.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
I guess yeah.

Speaker 4 (00:17):
If everyone free to make their own prediction, I mean
I can easily see how that can actually happen. Things
would have to fall right for Jacksonville and that would
be kind of like an historic year for Trevor Lawrence,
but more importantly for Liam Cohn. Has there ever been
and I know, you know, you know all this stuff
because you're like a braining ache with all of this,
has it been a coach that in his first year.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Took a team to the Super Bowl in one?

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Because I know, we all we have all types of coaches,
coaches with long tenure, coaches with short team to make
the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
But has there been a coach to in his first
year most year? Now you gotta go way back for that. Wait, wait,
are we talking like the sixties? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Super Bowl five.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Dan McCafferty with the Colts was the only coach to
ever win it his debut season. Now that there was
a Broncos connection here, as Red Miller went to a
super Bowl in his first year as head coach. They
didn't win it. Uh he lost. The only modern era
coach to do that would be Jim Caldwell with the Colts.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Hmmm.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
So there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
It's gonna be a real exciting uh sports weekend. Obviously
we got the college football playoffs semi finals. But uh,
that's why I say, Man, the game I want to
watch the most out of all these games is that
Buffalo Jacksonville game.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
By the way, I guess you could count George Seafford
taking over for Bill Walsh and then going in as
first as that count.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Because you're taking.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Kind of take it out, you know, the count well
because he was already in that organization.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, I mean, that's the We'll give it to him.
But put an asterisk on it.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
We're talking about like your rookie year as a head coach,
your first start.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
You're not taking over for anyone. It's just year going for.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
A dynasty in the diners. You know, that's a little
Definitely put an asterisk.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
They went well doing it. In two thousand and nine,
take it.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Over for Tony Dungee like that to me, Yes, you know,
now he didn't win Red Miller with the Broncos.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
And was it nineteen seventy seven? I think it was
Super Bowl twelve?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
And then of course Domac Kafferty, like I said, but
there are super Bowl five is the only way to
win it.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Man, it is so many storylines, not just in college football,
but these playoffs like that. There's so many guys who
quarterbacks who could solidify themselves.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
In NFL history.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
And you have other coaches who are getting their first
taste of the playoffs. Sean Payton, who's trying to make
NFL histories being the first head coach to win the
Super Bowl in two different organizations.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah before right, there have been a couple of coaches
that have been to the Super Bowl with multiple organizations.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Never they've never won, correct. Wow.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
I just think about the game itself been it's a
lot of pressure. Just think about how things intensifies in
certain moments when you know the game is on the line.
If you are Sean McDermott and you're in a role
in Jacksonville against a newcomer coach and Liam Cohen and
you can't lose the game. Because I'm thinking if Sean
McDermott loses this game, he.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
All he's all but fired.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
He might be losing his job.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
John Harball sitting right there and come on waiting in
the wings, you know what to be funny. If I
don't know, I don't think it's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
But you know, John Harbor happens to be in the
tennis at the Jacksonville Buffalo game.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I will say this, John Harball is not taking coaching
interviews until after the opening round of the playoffs is over.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
I hope he goes to Pittsburgh. I hope they fire Tomlin. Well,
they won't fire Tomlin.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
He may go.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
You may go to television.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
They won't fire him, but he might go to That
is a very real possibility that he goes.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
You let your you're a loyalty shine through.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Wow, this is just for two organizations making dumb coaching decision.
In my opinion, the Ravens letting go of Harball, and
then if the Steelers get rid of Tomlin or mutually
part ways with him, I think that's also a stupid decision.
I'd love to see it come back and bite him
right in the butt.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
It's funny because midway through the season, I remember you
and Ryan and I told you guys, there's this very
real scenario where every head coach in the AFC North
is not there anymore.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Now.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
The Bengals wound up keeping Zach Taylor.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, but the Cleveland Browns and Cincinnati and the raven
the Baltimore Ravens have already made their decisions and we're
waiting on this Pittsburgh thing.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
And realistically could have been all for.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
I know, just think about you know, if you are
he as a coordinator, I as a coordinator, and you're
in this high recycle when you're taking interviews with certain
teams and you're thinking, okay, well these interviews are legit interviews,
knowing what you just said is absolutely true. That John
Harbaugh is waiting where he can pick and choose where

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he wants to go and continue his coaching career, right,
and you, on the other hand, you're waiting, and so
he makes is this is that he's the first domino to.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Fall, right, And that's a lot of that. A lot
of this is going to be on that.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
By the way, the coaches who have been to the
Super Bowl multiple different teams. There's some some funny little
quirks there.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Two of those coaches coach for both Philly and Kansas City,
and those are the teams they went with, really Dick
for Meal and Andy Reid. Okay, Uh, two of those
coaches coach for the Denver Broncos, John Fox and Dan
Reeves both went to Super Bowls with different teams that
went but went to And then of course you have
Mike Holgren uh and Don Shula on that list, and

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the Miami Dolphins and then uh uh and Bill Parcell's
of course, yeah, the old guys. So yeah, with the
Giants and with the Patriots. That's those are the colts
that could be. Those of coaches they have made a
Super Bowls with two different deams.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
What job?

Speaker 2 (05:47):
If you guys are looking at this thing, whole thing
being equal, I think we're all probably gonna say Baltimore.
But of the openings that are available, what is the
most attractive to you.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
You've got in Baltimore, you got Lamar.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
You know, you've got an organization, Uh that's pretty pretty steady.
In in a place like Miami, you've got the opportunity
to go blank slate. You know, you take the Raiders job,
You got the numb one overall. Pick at all that
cap space, they got like one hundred million in cap space.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
What are the are they of his jobs?

Speaker 2 (06:12):
If you were gonna be head coach Nick Ferguson, head
coach Grant Smith. You look at the divisions they're in,
you look at the ownership all this stuff, what job
do you? On the surface looks like the most attractive
two jobs?

Speaker 4 (06:24):
I would have to say Baltimore, right, even though that's
you're in a tough division, because I mean I say
tough because you got Joe Burrow and Cincinnati there, right,
But it's a ready made team, and you know what
it's like to make a food metaphor, The Baltimore Ravens

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is instant rice, right, just add water and stir. That's
kind of what they are. They already have their quarterback
who is MVP. They have a lot of defensive pieces,
Kyle Williams being one of those guys, good two good
tight ends, Derrick Henry. You would just need to fix
their wide receivers, bring in some quality wide receivers. But

(07:08):
Steven shotting that Baltimore Ravens organization. They've always been known
as being first class. Mean hell, John harbut spent eighteen
years there. That tells you that they do have patients.
But the only part with that is when you come
in as the next coach, you're gonna be under the
gun right away.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
We want instant rice right now.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
They want you making the AFC Championship right next year exactly.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Now. There's a lot of pressure. There's a lot of pressure.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Now.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
There is still another job I would say that has
more of an easier pack, okay, and that would be
uh Atlanta Falcons.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, that's I mean that, you know, you get to
a clean slate with the general manager there, Matt Ryan's
coming in.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
As president of football ops.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
The only problem with that is you don't have a
first round draft pick and you're not really sure what
you're gonna do at quarterback there because you've got Kirk
and Michael Pennick's cousins. Of course, is going to be
cut because you're you're kind of struggling with a captat too.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Now, And the only reason I say that, yes, you
do have those issues. You do get a chance to
pick your own GM. But the biggest issue for me
or the biggest pro rather for me is that you
happen to be in the.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
NFC South, which is a very winnable division as opposed
to like I would say, if you didn't have all that,
the Raiders job would be very attractive. Number one overall,
pick one hundred million in cap space. You got, you know,
you got a couple of pieces there, Bowers, Crossbill, that
kind of stuff. And then you look at the ANFC
West You're like, oh my god, you know Cardhill's job, right,
you look at that, and you're looking at the Cardinals job.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
You got a cheap owner.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
And then you're looking at the rest of that division
you're like, now, I'm good on that job.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Because in NFC West, I mean obviously Cardinals, Rams, Seahawks forty.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
Nine replayoff team, good luck, and honestly like the same
thing with the AFC West, You've got you're not thinking
the Chiefs are going to be bad for long at
least people. So you've got three built in playoff teams
and that division every year too, with the bow Nicks
and Sean Payton, they're not going anywhere.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Justin Herbert Harball, they're not going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
I think the other side of that is though, if
you look at that, all three of those guys are olds.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Those are three of the oldest coaches in the AFC.
And if you can bring the Raiders back to prominence, yeah,
just relevance in the NFL. If you bring the Raiders
back the respectability, I think that's the second best job.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
What about Tennessee, Tennessee, they have cam I don't want
anything the thirteen million.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Dollars they fired Mike Brabel. You want to work for
those people?

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Guard they did, they fired my dude, Ran Carthon. They've
gone through a couple of coaches and GM's. But you're
looking for a job with some former upside. There's a
little upside there. You don't have to worry about your quarterback.
Like I said, you have one hundred and thirteen million dollars.
They were competitive from a defensive standpoint. You just have

(10:02):
to use that money to build out your your offense.
And once again, like Ben said, I need a six
year deal, man, I need a six year deal because
I've seen that you guys get rid of coaches as
quickly as someone gets rid of Wartz.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
I've noticed nobody has mentioned the Giants job like is
that just not an attractive opening to either of you.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
The gis limited cap space.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
It's limited cap space depending on whether or not you
believe in dark and scatter Bow, the medical whatever. Joe
Shane is still the general manager. There are you hitching
yourself to a guy who might be a dead man
walking at general manager? Like, there's there's questions about that
in that New York market. There's pressure in head market.
I mean, you played, you didn't play for that team,
but you played in that market.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Look, I tell people all the time, this media market
does not compare one iota to what happens in New York.
Because New York they're beat riders. They really don't care
if they hurt your feelings. They really don't care. They're
not apologize for it, and you're not gonna paint them
into some kind of box where you dictate what they
say and how they say. No, that's not how this works.

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And it is a crushing media market because they have
two of everything, two football teams, two basketball teams right,
two baseball teams right, And that is an environment, whether
you like it or not. They're used to winning, even
though their teams may suck they expect them to win anyway.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
But both of those teams combined for seven wins in
the NFL this year.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
But one of those teams have been to multiple Super Bowls,
and that being the Giants, not the Jets.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
I think, yeah, the Giants thing. I mean, that's that's
the other side of that. I mean, every one of
these jobs has plus and miasis. Every one of them
has something that you look at and you say, Okay,
that part's attractive, but that part isn't unless you're you know,
maybe the Cleveland job where you're looking at this like,
I don't know, what do we have the quarterback?

Speaker 1 (11:55):
We got your door?

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Is he the guy? We don't know?

Speaker 2 (11:58):
We got a defense? Do we have offense? Kind of
easy builders? This general manager any good in Andrew Berry.
We've already seen what ownership is like here with Jimmy
Haslam And oh, by the way, this division is probably
not going to be as down as it was this year,
you know, necessarily going forward. We'll see with the turnover
from the Ravens and you know, the Bengals probably getting
healthy and whatever Pittsburgh does.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
But you know, that job.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I think the Cleveland, Arizona jobs look like the worst
jobs of the of the cycle.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
I would agree with that.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
So if if either of you guys were any of
these head coaches who are interviewing for a lot of
these jobs, whether you are Brian Flores, Davis Webb, and
with Davis Webb, he's not gonna have a lot of
cashet where he can ask for a whole hell of
a lot.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Well, let's just say you guys were.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Going in someone bringing you in and they asked you
what would it take to get you Grant Smith to sign?
What would it take you Vision and or Bright to
sign with this team?

Speaker 5 (12:56):
What are you asking for the Kyle Shanahan contract for
much job?

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Specifically Brown John No, no city, no head coach, but
which city doesn't make a difference, Oh for any of them,
thinking just about anything with Baltimore, I'm like, yeah, whatever
you want, I got this.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
I'm like wages, Lamar Jackson still playing quarterback.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah. And then you go look at Arizona.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
I'm like, well here's what I'm gonna need, Fellas.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Just you know, I'm going to be a guaranteed deal,
a company car. You know I want? You know what?

Speaker 1 (13:31):
I went free.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Movie tickets to go see Marty Supreme. You know why,
just because I could ask and private jet whenever I
need it. I mean there's different like honestly, there's there
would be different things that I would need out of
you know. And and again with the Raiders, like you
would want that secured long term deal because I need
you to tell me you're committed to me in a
way you haven't been to anybody in the last five years.

(13:53):
If you're the Raiders and you fired five head coaches
in five seasons, I need more from you because what's
what am I gonna Am I gonna tell all my friends,
my family, all my friends, all my professional acquaintances to
uproot their lives, come.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Move to Las Vegas. We're gonna get this thing done.
And then a year later they're all looking for work.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
Okay, well, let me tell you what John Harbaugh is
looking for. Or it's in large that he's looking for.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Oh yeah, this is true.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
By the way, twenty million per year, right that that'll
put him in the in the realman s Sean Payton number.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
One, I'll hid coach money. They're getting fired now, this.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Point I think is really important.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
I've seen college coaches start to do this and I
think this is really valuable ten million dollar budget for
his coaching staff.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
I like that move.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yes, yeah, I love this.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
I love that move. Total authority over the roster. So
we have a ZM. But guess what I am running this.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
Right, That's something Vance Joseph needs to ask for if
he's getting The sign on your door might say GM,
but I'm the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
The sign on John Harbaugh's door says, can't.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Call has nothing on me.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
I'm the captain, right And then and then the other
thing would be he wants to select his own GM.
If your owner, would you give John Harbaugh that type
of leeway?

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Would you give it to him?

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
And I would ask for him back in return, like
here's the coffee up. By we're by year three of this,
you have to have had playoff you know, you have
to be in the playoffs or with playoff wins your
three year four or else you're getting it's all gone.
I'm gonna give you a four year deal and by
year three you have to be in the playoffs, and
if you don't, you got You're done. You have a mandate.
I don't like head coaches picking the GM. I see

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I do in the sense of organizational alignment.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
You got it.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
It's somebody.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
You have to have somebody running the evaluation side of
the house that he's in philosophical alignment with what you are.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
If that's the case, then hire the GM first, and
then let the GM hire the head coach.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
There's uh And I've retweeted a couple of days Golf.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
There's a great article out from Dan Hatman, who used
to be a scout in the league, about each of these.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
What it's more successful.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
None of them are more successful than any other in
terms of how they do that well.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
The only thing I say that would make whether you
hired a GM first or you hire the head coach.
The one thing I know being in San Francisco, your
GM and your head coach have to be on the
same page. It cannot be one of these things where
the damn breaks, you run into a six game loser streak,
the owners asking questions, and I the guys throwing the

(16:32):
other person under the bus.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Cannot do it.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Broncos Country today back go to this and yeah, I'm
putting belt to backside on how's the Oregon Ducks?

Speaker 3 (16:42):
There?

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Bta baby Ba just saying we want to.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Do to get into previewing this weekend, and of course
it is wild Card weekend and all these games going
on right now, we don't know yet. I keep geting
a lot of questions asking when the Broncos are playing.
A lot of that is dependent to all on win
who beats whom in an effort for the seeding.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
So so Sean said earlier today that if it's someone
who plays on Sunday, they will play on Saturday, he thinks.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
But if they have to wait, if it's Texans.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
Or Steelers, that they will play, Yep, then it'll be
on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Basically, if New England and Jacksonville win, we're probably on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
If one of those loses, we're probably playing on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Is basically, it's.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
A much less convoluted way to put it.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, So with that in mind, let us go ahead
and pick the games for this weekend. We'll start off
on the AFC side of the house as the Pittsburgh
Steelers are taking on the Houston Texans.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
The Pittsburgh Steelers are home.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Dogs in this one, as the Houston Texans are favored.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Hold on here, trying to pull us up. Sorry, So
there we go. The Texans the five seed, the Steelers
the four seed.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Right now, the spread is currently Houston might three, and
it looks like fifty six percent of the bets are
actually on Pittsburgh plus three. Sixty five point six percent
of the money also on Pittsburgh plus three. The over
under currently sits at a poultry thirty eight. Sixty percent
of the bets are all the over, only fifty one
percent of money though, Nick Grant, where.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Do you sit on this game?

Speaker 4 (18:21):
I sit on the side of the Houston Texans because defense,
as they say in this cliche as it is, still
wins championship. And the last time I check, Aaron Rodgers
still has a difficult time moving and navigating the pocket,
and the Texans have Danil Hunter and will end just
hunting him down.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
So I'm gonna go with he's in Texas. I love
that defense. I love how they play defense.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
Ah and your own words, Nick, defense can only take
you so far.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
I like the Steelers in this game.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
The line started at three and a half for the
Texans is down to three. He ben say where the
public money is, and usually the public's wrong.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
But I'm gonna go with the Steelers in this game.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
I think they're riding that momentum coming off that big
win against the Ravens, albeit it came down to a
last second field goal that the Ravens rookie kicker should
have made.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Aaron Rodgers knows his time's coming to an end.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
I like the Steelers to win this game at home
and Mike Tomlin to stay the head coach of the
Pittsburgh Steelers at least.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Interestingly, on the money line, seventy percent of bets pick
the Texans, but sixty two percent of money is on
the Steelers.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Big money knows what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Big swing right there. I'm on Houston in this one.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
I just think they're just too tough. This game might
set a record for field goals when all said and done.
Do you think over under thirty eight man?

Speaker 3 (19:42):
You might?

Speaker 2 (19:43):
I think this is like a twenty one eighteen game.
It's all field goals. It's like seven field goals to six.
Do we know what the weather is supposed to be like?

Speaker 3 (19:50):
It not supposed to be all great, that's supposed to
be great.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
I will say that there's most of the weather this
weekend is supposed to be gross.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Right now, I believe it's a game time is anticipated
to be.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Thirty nine degrees fair height in that one. Houston's a
dome tea. That's Steelers football right there. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
The Steelers still can't really get after quarterbacks like they
have in a year's past.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Are we all on the show together Monday? Does anybody
know yet? Has that been sent out yet?

Speaker 4 (20:15):
No?

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Why, I'm gonna pay these so we can come back
to them. I guess that'd be Tuesday anyway, because we
got this game on Monday. But yeah, let's see how
we all do.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Okay, I'm pretty sure we're on Monday at bus premtime.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah, but we got Monday night Steelers texts right right,
so we'd have to do it on Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Tuesdays, Okay, on Tuesday bus Buffalo Bills at the Jacksonville Jaguars.
This one right now, the bills are laying one the
overall No, this one is actually fifty one and a half.
If you look at the uh, the spread, excuse me,
if you look at the bets and the money we got,
fifty seven percent of the bets are on Jacksonville plus one,
fifty seven percent of the money on Jacksonville plus one,

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sixty two percent of the bets and money on the
over on the money line, interestingly, fifty six percent of bets.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
On Buffalo sixty of money on Buffalo. All Right, so
I'm gonna go with the Jags.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
And here's why I love how the Jags have been playing.
Treva Lawrence is taking this game to a whole novel level.
And when you look at the idea of Josh Allen
in the combination of James Cook, both of those guys
are great on the ground.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
But in the regular season, the.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Jags have not given up or surrendered one hundred yards
on the ground, and I think that conteaus against Josh
Allen and the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Dude, I'm right there with you, man.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Everyone's taking the Bills in this game. It feels like,
at least from a national media perspective, they're not the
same Bills.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Their defense has not looked good all year.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
Granted, their secondary has played a little bit better in
the last couple of weeks. But I'd love what Liam
Cohen has done down there, using that underdog, small market
mindset to rally those dudes Jacksonville and Trevor Lawrence. This
could be his coming out party, like he's played well
these last third of the season. Here he beat the
Chiefs early on in the year, took down the homes

(22:10):
and a big play and by him, I think, I
think this is the year.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
At Jacksonville gets a win in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Do you think, knowing as though Leam Cohen used that
phrase that CHOHn Payton said, albeit you know that's not
what coach Payton intended to, do you think right before
the game the night before Lean Cohen pulls it out
again just to squeeze, bore, woman.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Ounce the juice out of it.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
I don't think anymore now weally, I guess Buffalo is
not a big market team either.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, I just don't think you can.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
If you've already used that, you've already banged that drum.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
But I'd like the Jacks in this game, man, I
think it's gonna win.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Sense right, You can't watch The Six Cents twice.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
That's a movie you can only watchaan like, is he
the twist only happens once?

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Well, maybe you watch it again just to see if
you could have figured it out a lot sooner.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
By the way, you mentioned Marty Supreme earlier. That's a
movie you only watch one.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
So O turn of good, but the only one on Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Here, you're the only one, only one.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
On Buffalo, right. I think there's something to be said
for experience.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
And Sean McDermott is at the point where he's got
to get some playoff wins or he's not gonna be
in Buffalo anymore.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
He'll be paying his UH.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Bills Like this, I like Buffalo to h to win
this game.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
New England.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
You've got the Chargers, the LA Chargers who just played
here in Denmark with their backup offense against the New
England Patriots.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
UH.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
The Chargers are a three and a half point dog
on the road at New England.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Looking at the weather for this one, expected to be
forty five degrees and mostly okay, the Chargers are getting
three and a half. Only forty one point three percent
of the bets are on the Chargers, forty seven percent
of money the Chargers, sixty five percent of bets on
the over of forty five and a half, fifty five
percent of money on the money line, eighty four percent
of bets, eighty percent.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Of money on New England.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Now the tough one. They're all tough. It's a playoffs Nick,
you know what I'm gonna go on the Lemons.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
I'm gonna say the Charges because I like the way
that Jesse Mentor deplores his defense, and he does a
great job of telling those guys and coaching them up,
keep things in front of you, play top down and
that defense. Having a couple of starters out of the
lineup last week, it gets to the different Broncos. That's exactly

(24:22):
what they did, holding the Broncos to nothing but field
goals and no touchdowns. I think they get that done
again against the Patriots.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
I was leaning heavy Chargers all this week because of
all those things you just said about the Chargers defense.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
That means you changing your mind, that's what you say.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
I'm going with the Pats at home, man. I know
they've only beat one team with a record over five
hundred all year. This is going to be probably the
best defense they faced all year. But Mike Rapel is
gonna get those dudes ready, and they're at home. I
think that plays a big factor into it. New England,
you know, they've had a lot of success in recent history,
but not in the in the past couple of years.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Are going to be loud.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
I like the Pats in this game, and if I
was a betting man, I'd be on the under because
I think the defenses will show up.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
I'm of the Chargers in this one.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I think that defense is real tough, and they're getting
older offense back, you know, in this one. Martin Hampton
is going to play in this one, justin Herbert. They've
they've had the weeks off to get a little bit healthier,
you know. With regard to that, I think they basically
just kind of checked out of the Broncos game and
have been scouting New England for a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
I think they I think that was a tactical move
on their part. I think it'll pay dividends.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
I think it'll be the first multi interception game for
Drake May of the season, and I believe that the
Chargers will be the ultimate victors.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
Well, one of these quarterbacks will be getting their first
playoff win.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yes, yes they will.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
On the NFC side, Carolina.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Panthers l A Rams traveling all the way to Carolina
for this one. The Rams the biggest favorite of the
week on the road at minus ten and a half
over under forty six forty four set of bets, thirty
two percent of money are on the Rams to cover. However,
eighty nine percent of bets fifty six percent of money
are on the Rams to win outright on the over

(26:09):
under forty six, seventy four percent of bet sixty seven percent.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Of money on the over forty six. How do we
feel about the Rams, Lady Carolina, I like saw.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
McVeigh and Matthew Stafford to get a little redemption.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
The last time these two teams like horns, the Panthers
won thirty one twenty eight, and that was a game
where with all the MVP talk about Matthew Stafford, he
turned the ball over twice, one fumble, two interceptions, and
even with that being said, the Rams still.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Almost won the freaking game. So I'm gonna roll.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
With Matthew Stafford to rite this shit and not turn
the ball over this time to get Bryce Shong an
opportunity to handof to is running bets.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
I love everything that has happened in Carolina this year,
but talk about the most jeckl and Hide team.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
I could see this being a close game where.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
All I could see the Rams winning by fourteen to
twenty points. But either way, I think the Rams are
gonna win this game. Yeah, I think he gets.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Our act together and exponge the that last game that
they had there in Carolina. Carolina has been a fun team,
scrappy team back towards the way into the playoffs and
all that kind of stuff. Fun story and a good,
good guy. Dave Canal is getting in there. But end
of the day, Sean McVay and the Rams go, this is.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Like those major teams in Marsh Maddens, Thoserella Hayter.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah, this is Tulayane in the.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Tlayne Talaane technically made the college football players. Carolinas Madison,
Carolina Panthers technically made the NFL playoffs.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Let me ask you this, if the Bucks would have
got in, if Atlanta would have lost to New Orleans,
would you have liked the Bucks over the Rams.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
That spread would have been a lot tighter and that
game would have been tougher to call. I think I
think so too.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Those Mars Maddeness teams, those Cinderella's.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Green Bay Packers at the Chicago Bearers. The Bears are
home dogs. They're getting one and a half over under forty.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Four and a half.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
I'm looking at this here and it looks like seventy
one percent of bets and sixty six percent of money
on the Bears.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Sixty of bets.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Only fifty money on the over here on the money line,
sixty six percent of bets had money on Chicago. I
kind of like Chicago at home here. I mean, Matt
Lafleur is the act of a coach, the man. Chicago's
just had it this year, the same way the Broncos
have kind of had it this year.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
The Bears, if they kind of had that magic. I
kind of like the Bears in this one.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yes, I'm gonna have to go with dub Bears on
this one because once again, the combination of Ben Johnson
is creativity from an offensive standpoint. And what we've seen
from Caleb Willis in the second year, I mean, I've
been liking it to what we're seeing and with the
Newland pages and Drake May how the play caller just

(28:44):
kind of just changed the revamp the ability of that
particular player.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
And Caleb is playing well.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
Then talk about a guy who can make plays on
the just kind of scrambling to the right and left
and throw off his back foot. There not too many quarterbacks,
veteran quarterbacks that can do that, But I'm I'm really
excited about Cayle Williams and the Bears feeding the Packers.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
Caleb Williams, Matt Stafford, and bow Knicks all tied for
the most long touchdown passes this year with eleven. Caleb
Williams might throw the prettiest deep ball out of all
of them, but he struggles.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
In that intermediate passing game.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
The Packers, on the other side, have lost their last
four games going into the playoffs. Jordan Love hasn't played
in a long time. With all that being said, I'm
going with the Packers, No pack go.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
I think they get this win.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Interesting last one no on the slave year.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
The San Francisco forty nine Ers are at the Philadelphia Eagles.
This one is a six point spread. Philly is a
six point favorite here over under forty four.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
And a half.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Seventy seven percent of bets eighty percent of money he's
on San Francisco plus six on the over under of
forty four and a half, sixty one percent bets fifty
nine percent of money on the over. On the money line,
sixty three percent of bets are on Philly, but forty
eight percent of money is on Sanford's Cisco.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
I like San Francisco at least to.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Cover this, and I think they've got a good shot
of winning.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
So are you no, don't do that?

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Okay, there you go. So for me, I'm gonna go
the opposite way. I'm gonna go with Vic Fangio in
the in the defense. And the reason why I'm saying
that because when I look at San Francisco defense, they
they've had some issues every now and again, and I
know Kevin Patulo has struggled all season a long kind
of get things balanced, Saquon.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
You know, a J. Brown.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
But I think this is the game that they get
things back on track. And I know San Francisco feels
though they owe Philadelphia because when Brod Purdy got injured
and one another year they kept going to the Super Bowl,
they had to insert run CMC if things didn't work out.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
This is gonna be a tough game.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
It's gonna be really close, but I give the ish
to the home team and the Eagles.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
Yeah, I'm surprised this is a six point spread. I
thought it'd maybe be like three and a half in
favor of the Eagles. Rock Purdy man since he's come
back from injury he has been dealing. But also you're
missing the quarterback of your defense. And Fred Warner. I'm
so torn between this game. But I think the forty
nine ers are gonna go into Philadelphia and get this win,

(31:19):
and then they're gonna be calling for their head coach
to be fired.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
With the Eagles, I they'll fire Patulo.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
They won't fire Server, they won't fire them. I'm just
saying they'll be the fans they playing round, They'll fire,
They'll fire Patula, reload on the offensive side of the ball.
At the end of the day, you got to look
at both sides of the football. Here right on the.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Defensive side, you got Vic fangiov On the other defensive side, you.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Got Robert Salaz.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
That's Solos, a pretty too good defensive quarter because I think.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Most episode, what would you say was was more of
an elite defense during the season San Francisco or the.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Eye Eagles bailed out their offense more often. Of course,
look at the offensive side, though Kyle Shanahan is significantly
better than Kevin Patulo.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
You know what, that seems like it's been the theme
all season alone. There's there's several teams that are in
the playoffs, and they're defense has been the kallais for
why they're in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Supposed it off Eagles sproncles.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yes, yeah, there's a few of them. It's can only
take you so far there.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Well, I guess coming from a hood a nation where
they don't play defense, you know, have you got to
fix your defense?

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Anybody wouldn't know about defense? Teaming up on me back here.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
With his actually facts. These are things that you actually know,
Like if Joe Burrow had a defense last year, then
the Bengals would have been further in the playoffs and.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
That would have been Super Bowl changes. But that's revision necesstory.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Nick, Well, the same thing happened this year too, so
is it.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
That's current affairs?

Speaker 5 (32:43):
So just to be clear, Ben and Nick taking Texans,
I'm taking Steelers, Ben taking Buffalo, Nick and I taking Jacksonville.
Ben and Nick taking the Chargers. I'm taking the patsk
Ben and Nick on the Rams.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
I'm also on the Rams. Sorry, So if we swiped,
we finally got one, we're all on. Well that's the
only one.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
Very interesting then, and Nick on the Bears, I'm on
the Packers. Ben forty nine ers, Nick Eagles, me forty
nine ers. Right, we'll see how it all plays out
after this weekend.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Somebody's got to win it.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Somebody's got to win this.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Then that was coach Hacke said, that's where I stole
it from.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Throw back to throw back to that era.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
God, somebody tweeted me the other day it was like,
when did you know that the Broncos had made the
wrong higher in Nate Hackett, I'm.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Like, man, you know you got there to training camp
and you're.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Like, is this offense supposed to look like this? But
you just kind of hope that it was growing and.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Its see you guys to the Seattle game and you
saw them, you know, try to kick that ridiculous field
goal and you're like, ah, and then what was it?

Speaker 3 (33:48):
The next game was the Colts.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
I think it was where we had the fans counting
on the play clock and you're like, oh my god,
we're in trouble.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
We're in trouble, kids.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
But the whole was just like, at some point they're
going to turn the corner and things could possibly changed.
Because you were trying to be as optimistic as you could.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
I think they turned the corner right into a sideline brawl.
I think took the offensive line and a backup quarterback
on prime time, and that kind of to where we
are right now. Broncos, cut your dead back after this.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Somebody's got to win this game.