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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I have no idea what you were talking about. I
was talking about I really want me to say.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
It on the air. I was talking about diamonds, right, that's.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
One thing that could create diamond so tight that you
can find a diamond.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yes, diamond right there. I'm not touching that one. Your diamond.
You could add it that bully in your ear.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Sam Lash six six nine zeros text line prophet is
a glorious Bronco's victory has been fourth to old.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Also, thanks of Pat Loadzach for making me feel ancient.
That's part of what I'm here for. Oh well, Brian says,
what is the best John Hughes movie? That's a good question.
That's a good question. Pretty in pink or I think
you're probably going Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Club here, but I like, I loved Weird Science Alone, Okay,
Home Alone, Ferris Bueller, Paris Bueller, Planes, Trains and Audible
and Uncle buck Uh.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
He said the best one, the best one. I think
most people are gonna say Breakfast Club though.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Or.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
No, Home Alone is the best John Hughes movie.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
National Lampoon is also him. That's ridiculous, I is you
miss I.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Go Home Alone? Dude, nobody has ever passed the run
that John Hughes had in the eighties, like, no one you.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
See what you missed by being born in her own era, right,
this is.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
What you miss zax Sears miss I didn't miss it,
though I've seen all these movies now I get to
see the ones in the twenty twenties.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Two.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
If that's the thing, I can always go back to
the past. I can't go to the future. Yeah, unless
you are in John.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Honestly, that run went into the nineties two because you
had Uh was those home alone nineties or eighties?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I can't remember. It's like right on the border. Yeah,
but that would him. Uh the Dog movie was John Hughes.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
That was.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
John Hughes. Go Dennis the Menace movie with Walter Matthow,
that was. That was John Hughes. I miss my childhood.
I miss it.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Well, let me say this, I miss certain things, all
of it.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, even the even the even like.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Some of the lesser ones were still good, like some
kind of wonderful. Those are still good movies. No, but
I don't think anybody's going on a run like John
Hughes went on. We talked about Rob Ryder's run after
he passed tragically and that long ago he had.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
He had a really good run too, but it wasn't
as deep as John Hughes run. Hughes is just like
those coming of age movies.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, he do nineties like that was his day.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
He owned that ten year period parody.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Do you have a trouble You have a trouble team
in today's world, send them down and just give them
a whole bunch of John Hughes movies.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Watch We'll get up through it. Get him through it.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Uh, six to oh, I've texted happy Victory Monday, Ryan,
So I'm having a happy victory Sunday or Monday since
the Brons are playing on a Saturday. That's what I meant. Uh,
I was six to oh. Sorry, it's Ben here. Ryan
was on the previous show. That's what I was getting
at on that one. You may not be able to
tell our voices apart we're both nerds. It's funny, I
get it.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
I actually texted Ryan a minute ago. I sent him.
I sent him a tweet that I was going to
tweet and then just didn't marin with him.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
I've gotten more mature in my age, so I have
cut back, like I text, I will text Ryan the
tweets that I wished that I two years ago I
would have sent, but now I I called myself back
from from saying I.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Was still hung up on his ideas that you have matured. Right, Well,
I've gotten older. Okay, you've gotten older.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
More maturity to it. I just got older. We're not
going to mature.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yes, it's like it's like a it's like a it's
like a bottle of scotch.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
But you aged it in the bottles, so it didn't
actually mature. Yes.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, you guys are doing playoff pick them. Let's do
it all right, guys, play all pick him. This weekend
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we got any background music, We're a little there, we go.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Look you that? Alright.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Let's start over the NFC side with the Seattle Seahawks
taking on the San Francisco forty nine ers and guys.
This was one of the most difficult ones to call
for me. I probably would be firmly on Seattle if
Sam Donald didn't have the oblique injury and was kind.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Of a little questionable.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Now he's gonna be the guy in this game, and
he's gonna go to start, but he's a little digged
up in this one. And bad Sam Donald has traditionally
been pretty bad. The Niners. They're not a typical six seed.
We have the whole NFC West over here outside of
the Cardinals. You know, in these playoffs, the Niners are
better than a sixth seed the Seahawks at home.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I mean, the Niners are certainly familiar with that.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Where do you guys come down on Seattle, Scuby San
Francisco at Seattle.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
That was gonna be a tough for me to call,
But I'm gonna go with.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
The Seattle Seahawks, even though you have Sam Donald with
the obleak and that may affect him passing the ball
down the field. But the last time we saw these
two teams, black Horse, it was a really close.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Game and Sharper Nay look like he was Ricky Waters. Well.
San fran couldn't move the ball either on that defense.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Now, if you don't have George Kittle, not to say
that George Kittle made a massive impact in the last meeting,
but it's something special about McDonald.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Mike McDonald, that's right. Another eighties reference where you like
there's a background vocalist of the eighties.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yes, absolutely, But it's something about that defense and the
ability to get out to the quarterback, shut down the run,
and put pressure in your quarterback.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
So I'm gonna go with the Seahawks in this one man. Yeah,
that sorry. That Seahawks defense is elite.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
They held the forty nine Ers to three points the
last time they were out there, and to your point, it.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Was just two weeks ago. You know, this is a
very recent game.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
I think it's fair to point to that as what
to expect from these two teams matching up. And the
forty nine Ers offense is even weaker now without Kittle,
and he might have not had the biggest impact, but
that allows the forty or the Seahawks rather to just
tee off on Christian McCaffrey even more, and they completely
bottled him up the last time I now this game
was in this game is in Seattle, when the last
one was in San Franz.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
I think the Seahawks roll. I tend to be with you.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
The big The big thing to me that's not really
being talked about for me is I mean, I think
Kyle Shanahan and Robert Solid done a great job of
like patchworking this thing together to get to where they
got it. But that defense doesn't run, does not get
after the quarterback. They're dead last in the league in sacks,
they don't get turnovers, they don't defend the pass appreciably well.
They give up two hundred and thirty two passing yards
a game, and that has sort of been the problem.

(06:24):
Like you, you know, they're okay against the run, but man,
they're just such a sif against the pass that I
worry that that the Seahawks are just.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Gonna kind of have their way in this one.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
So I'm all over Seattle in this one as well,
just to be with the NFC. The Sunday game at
four thirty, the La Rams are visiting the Chicago Bears.
This one's interesting to me. Gonna be a cold, cold
weather game. Matt Stafford is horrible in the cold. One
to nine with the Rams in the cold, I am,

(06:55):
and I would normally be all over the Rams in
this one. Other than that particular number that he's just
been terrible in the cold. The Bears have been a
team that's kind of like the Broncos have found a
way in a luck their way into or or be
resilient in the fourth quarter. However you want to look
at it. If you're a detractor, you say look. If
you're pro, you say, I'm resilient. The Bears have feasted.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
They're number one in the NFL and interceptions.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
But I just worry that this Rams offense, which is
number one in the league in points per game, is
gonna be too much for the Bears to overcome, even
at home.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
No, I'm gonna go with Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams
to keep that second year quarterback theme alive. And you
know you're right when it comes to the Rams, their
West Coast team, we've seen them playing the cold, but
not in a fridgid cold like this. But we've seen
Matthew Stafford make some mistakes. He made some mistakes in
the first meeting against Carolina and in a second meeting

(07:44):
with against Carolina, but they were able to overcome it.
But it's just something unique and special about the Bears
and Sojia Field.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
And I don't know if.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
It's the ghosts of Sojia Fields, the ghosts of the
guys that of the past that didn't make it but
there's something unique about this Bears team, and I love
the energy that they have. So I'm gonna go with
Kayleb Williams and the Bears for.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
The shaker, I'm going with the Rams in this one.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
I think it's going to come down to who runs
the ball best, who plays defense best. Most of these
teams have great rushing attacks, but I think the Rams
is a little better. They have the second best rushing
success rate of any team over the last decade. They
are an elite, elite rushing team. I think that's going
to matter in this you know, an eight degree with
Winshill game. And then I think the Rams also have

(08:32):
a far superior defense to the Bears.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
I think they roll. Yeah, okay, all right, you guys
are all over the Bears. Huh both of I'm on
the Rams. Yeah, thanks you for the Bears. Has great.
That confused him out.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, I was like, okay, the Rams have the elite
run game and better defense.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
You let me add this really quickly. When you think
about what gives the most defensive defenses issues, and it
gave the Rams issues not once but twice. Facing Bryce
Young in the Carolina Panthers, a quarterback that can move
in the pocket. Jel the Williams has shown that he
can throw off platform from all different angles, and he
can make the tough throws with anticipation and pinpoint accuracy.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
The key to this game, I think is going to
be the Bears rushing attack against that Rams defense. The
Rams defense twelve allowing one hundred and ten twenty eight
yards per game, the Bears rushing offense third at a heart
and forty four and a half per game. They've really
got to get that run game going to create those
opportunities for Caleb Williams. I think I'm going with the
Rams here, even with Stafford's absolute trash record in the coles.

(09:33):
And prepare to laugh at me, you know, prepare to
laugh at me on Monday when I turned out to
be wrong on that one. On the AFC side of
the house, Houston Texans taking on the New England Patriots,
and I think everybody knows that I'm a huge Houston
Texans fan. I believe the Texans can win this game.
The key is going to be bottling up the for me.

(09:54):
The Patriots rushing attack, their number six rush attack at
one hundred and twenty nine yards per game, Houston. I
say it like every day. They have the most disrespectful
defense in the NFL. They don't blitch you, they don't
disguise anything. They line up and cover three. They send
their front four at you. They dare you to beat them,
and nobody does. What do you guys think about Houston
at the Patriots? This is a very interesting one as well.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
And I look at the Patriots' ability to run the
ball with Mandre Stevens, but more it's importantly Trevion Henderson.
And when you look at the Texans, they started to
get a little kind of going against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
But I'm gonna have to go with the Patriots. Man,
even though I mean the defense for the Houston Texans

(10:41):
they were extraordinary. But it is Shroud That's the thing
that trips me up because he turned the ball over
several times in that Stillers game last week. And I'm
sure Mike Vraber was looking to come up with some
creative ways to get.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Out to the quarterback and run some.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
TV stunts and some changes to a bottle of CJ shrout.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah, I think I like the Patriots in this one.
That offense has been elite all year now, the run
game is hitting its stride and looks incredibly explosive and
dangerous with Stevenson and Henderson as the two headed monster
back there. And I think their defense had the most
impressive performance, not the best, but just relative to what

(11:23):
I was expecting of them, the most impressive performance of
any side of the ball all wild card weekend. Like
they were supposed to be a middling defense, and they
completely dominated the Chargers. I think they might be ready
to take a step forward in the postseason. I think,
you know, the Texans have the defense, they just I
don't think they'll be able to keep up in a
scoring match with this Patriots attacked. I think that Chargers

(11:44):
game was fool's goal. That offensive line was trash. He
had a hurt Herbert.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
They couldn't get enhanted out there for one carry.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
He didn't look right.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
I'm just I'm not quite bought in on New England's
just yet. Even though it's in New England, Houston's a
dome team, you're playing outside the cold.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I get it, but I'm still on Houston here. Listen.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
I know Christan Kirk had a phenomenal game against the
Pittsburgh Stewers, reminiscent to his early days with the Arizona Cardinals.
You have no Nico Collins. That was your glue wide receiver.
He was wide receiver number one. Anytime that CJ. Shroud
felt as though he was in trouble, that's where he
was going with the Paul. You don't have your safety blanket.

(12:22):
Now you're gonna have to depend on Christan Kirk and
the brush of Ricky wide receivers.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
I tend to agree with that, and of course the
Texans do have those players out, but.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
I still I'm on Houston in this one.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
So that's come to the Broncos and the Bills, and
obviously this game here in Denver. We've been back and
forth and over it a few different times, but chance
to look at it here again. I think the key
matchups here are the things we've.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Already been over.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
The Buffalo Bills are number one in the NFL and
passing yards allowed for game, allowing only one hundred and
fifty six point nine passing yards per game for the season.
That is absurd in terms of how they managed to
keep passing yards down. Commercially, they give up one hundred
and thirty six point two on the grounds. They are
happy to let you run on the ground and teams
should take.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Advantage of it.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Overall they get They allowed twenty one and a half
points per game. That's good for twelve in the league.
On the offensive side of the ball, they're third in
total offense, first in rushing yards per game. They could
get one hundred and sixty on the ground. To me,
this is a tale of two rushings a tailor two
rushing defenses. Can the Broncos defend against the run and
then on offense can they succeed with the run?

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Man this one right here, I was torn.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Play for both organizations, love both quarterbacks, love everyone involved
with both organizations, but I'm gonna have to go with
the hometown Broncos. And the reason why is Van Jos
have been his defense. They've been the saving grayce for
this team all season off I know we constantly hear
about the seven to fourth quarter comebacks, all true, but

(13:54):
wouldn't not be possible without what the defense, slamming the
door on the posing offense.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
And getting timely turnovers to.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Set the offense up or scoring yourself. So because of Vans,
Joseph been this defense. And there are sixty eight Sacks.
I'm gonna roll with the Broncos.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
I'm going with the Broncos too, but I'm going with
the Broncos because of their offense. This Bill's run defense
is you know, just absolutely dreadful, bottom three in the league.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
And this Broncos rushing attack.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
Hasn't been great since losing Dobbins, but it's closer to,
you know, somewhere between sixteenth and twentieth, depending on the
metric you look at. I also think bo Nicks the
article I put out today kind of helped fuel this optimism.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Bo Dix has been balling out since the bye week.
He is playing.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Legitimately like a top ten quarterback pretty comfortably. I don't
think this is a game where you can just put
it on Josh Allen shoulders and expect him to carry
you to the win, especially with I think the Broncos
just have a dramatically better two through fifty three.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Give me the Broncos.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Interesting, and this is one that I've I've wrestled with
back and forth over over the week, and there have
been moments where where I've been like, Okay, yeah, the
Brocks got this, and there are moments like, man, I
you know, you go back and watch the tape and you're.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Like, oh, I just I don't have the faith that
they'll do. I think there's a path for Denver to win.
Let me put it that way. I think there's a path.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
You need to hit Josh Allen when he's passing the ball.
You've got to be clamped on third downs, and you
got to shut down their run game on early downs.
If you could do that, put them behind the sticks,
and hit Josh Allen when he's forced to pass, you're
going to be okay. I just don't have the faith
on the other side of the ball. You know, Zach
stalk about and balling out. I I don't have the
faith in the offense. The run game has dropped off dramatically.

(15:34):
The passing numbers are both going up a little bit,
but I don't think it's enough to compensate for that
run game. And there's an attitude late in a season
to running the football and no swing passes and screen
games are not an extension of the run With regard
to that attitude, were blowing guys off the ball, but
it's not in this case where you're there's a there's
a second and you know this bit of defensive player.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
If it somebody's if they're.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Blowing your line off the ball in screens and swings, aren't,
aren't in the You know, that's a wildly different animal,
and there's a psychology to it.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I'm just I'm a little nervous about this one.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Ultimately, I did pick the Bills twenty three to twenty
and I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and roll with that.
I hope I'm wrong. I hope that we are absolutely
making fun of me all week long for being wrong
on this.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Right a great thing about it, ben We will get
a chance to see it.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Obviously, fate has not been restored.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
We still have to do a little more on Broncos
Country tonight, working on one Benjamin all Bright, trying to
give him the art of belief.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
It's a very odduous task.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
But over the course of the show, I've gone from
atheist diagnostic on the Broncos.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
We'll see if I can't.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
So if you've come up a little, we'll see if
I can't get some of that fake guys to pick them.
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Speaker 2 (16:47):
For the live betting Broncos country.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
To night back up for this.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
That I asked a young seegers to come back with
a little George and Mike goes faith see if we
can kind of move the needle just a little.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
To the right for one bigeman l Bright.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Well, we'll see right now. Like I said, we're still
in that. I'm still in that Broncos agnostic. We'll see
if we can get there. We got plenty of time
to get there. On the show five six six nine zero,
of course, is the text line, appreciate you guys being
along for the ride. I want to talk up a
little bit about these coaching openings around the league and
what you guys think of the available jobs. I have

(17:30):
kind of an internal ranking based on people that I've
talked to that are some of these some of which
are gonna be up for some of these jobs, and
what they may choose. But I want to hear from
you guys, like if you were gutting for one of
these head coaching jobs, what do you think would be
the worst job, and what do you think would be
the best job, and why would that be the best
job for you?

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Well, the best job is the one that pays you
the most money, the worst money.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
For you, So for you some money? Okay, oh oh yeah,
all right, I'm interesting.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Well okay, Am I going to go to Cleveland for
bottom basement prices?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Well, that's what I'm saying. There's all this, all the
calculus factored in here. I mean it's not just about that.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
I mean, like for me personally, Am I gonna go
to Arizona where I'm in the absolute worst, you know,
toughest division in football with one of the worst owners
in football and a roster that's like eh in terms
of you know, the quarterback you're probably moving on from Murray.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
The roster's middling.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
They got some talent there, but top to bottom, we
saw what happened.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
When they got injured. They fell off. The wheels fell off.
So am I.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
You know, Arizona for me is probably the worst job
overall that sit there.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Ownership's charging you for SODA's on the team flights.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, you know that sounds like Cincinnati. I mean it's
what they're a negro too, they really are. But I
mean cland Cleveland is a job that's not all that great.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Again, you look at that the offense. I mean, there's
not a whole lot there on the offense. Uh, you
still got to figure out the quarterback situation. I ran
Cleveland slightly better than Arizona simply because their defense top
to bottom is good and you could probably keep that
defensive coordinator.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
They would be fine with that.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
So there's I would write Cleveland, you know, and Arizona's
bottom two jobs, and then I put Tennessee as the
next job. Now, Tennessee has a quarterback in cam Ward,
but they got ownership in the front office. Bickering that is,
and intrusiveness that has been a problem. So you know,
there are things to like about the Tennessee job, but

(19:21):
I probably put those on the on the bottom fore
you that puts probably the Raiders job right above that.
The Raider's been through five head coaches in five seasons.
That's a problem. I would definitely need a long term
deal form them with with high money in order to
secure that.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
But they have a ton of cap space. They've got
some superstar players already on the roster.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
They get the number one overall pick. You know, there's
stuff to work with in that job.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
So okay, so we're looking at because there are a
number of factors you have to take into consideration, first
and foremost, stability of ownership. Are they going to allow
you to do what you need to do and hire
you to do the job and just stay the hell
out of the way right? The next thing is, what
is this say allary cap actually looks like for the team?

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Who is my starting quarterback?

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Where we are in the draft as far as can
I pick up a starting quarterback? So if i had
to look at these teams right right away, I'm looking
at Baltimore would be my best quarterback?

Speaker 3 (20:17):
You you got You've had a pretty talented roster there already.
You're you're not in salary cap. Hell, that probably is
the best job of all.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
So the next job for me, I'm going with the
Pittsburgh Steelers. I know it doesn't seem like, well, you
don't have a quarterback, so why would you go there?

Speaker 2 (20:35):
You still have Aaron Rodgers. You could go out and
get another quarterback.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
I know it's very difficult, but I love the Rooney
family how committed they are.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
To the cause.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
When you when you've only had three head coaches and
this will be your fourth in franchise history, that tells
you a lot.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
There's a lot of patience.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
There they That tells you that there they the runway
is actually longer for you, right, and they know how
to build a team. They have a culture. So that's
my number two team. Okay, now my number three team.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
See, I think Aaron Rodgers and I will be there
in Pittsburgh. By the way, I think he's gone. That's fine,
but I'm with you more or less on that. I
think that's probably the number two jos.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
The ownership is will has proven that they've given you
the runway.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
The next one will they give you the patience though
I think that's a fair point.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
They have in the past.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
But the times they've turned over coaches, you know, the
since it's gone, Well, it was Chuck Knowle, who's an
all time legendary head coach with power rules Bill Kawer.
I went eleven and five his very first season. It's
not like they had to give him a lot of runway.
And then Mike Tomlin won a super Bowl in.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
His second season.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
So yes, they've they've had only three coaches and they've
had him forever. What if you go two and fourteen
in your first season, is the Pittsburgh Steelers head coach?
And I think that roster, it's it's ready for a rebuild.
It's a little old, it's past its prime.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
I think that's why you get the runway.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
I think you you come in saying we're in a
rebuild and we're gonna we get and we needed to,
you know, we wanted to tear it down rebuild, and
I think you're obvious about it, and that buys you
the three to four years that you'll need to build
the thing, and and then you know they'll give you
that runway.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
And this is why I say that, because three coaches, right,
I mean, the Cleveland Browns has done that in over
six seasons, right, and knowing as though that is an
organization that is committed, they're down for the cause.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Whenever they put in there, they're down for the cause.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
And I would love to see Brian Flores become the
next head coach for the Pittsburgh Steelers because when he
was having his issue with the Miami Dolphins and Stephen Raws,
Hope was the only team that hired him.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
The Rooney family and the Pittsburgh Steelers right there.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Dan Rooney's quote, and I ultimately agree, I think they're
the second best job just because all the other franchises
in the Knicks right now are so dysfunctional. But Dan
Rooney's quote is, uh, as someone asked him, how have
you been so successful hiring head coaches, he goes, you
hire the smartest guy in the room, and you give
him the time and support necessary for him to thank.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
You, and that and that is invaluable, right.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
And the other thing is, and I love my third
team would be the New York Giants only.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Because you know, you look at the fact that.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
The willingness for the Mar family to allow coach Harbor
to come in, pay him his free but also to
do something that you don't see coaches on the collegiate level,
high school level, or the pro level do willing to say,
I'm going to bat for my coaches. Right, You're support staff.
They know the value of their support staff. They're people.

(23:33):
But which other football in business forty five hundred companies
that they don't think about their people. They just think
about their position. But it's your people that gives you power.
And for the Mar family to allow Harvard and say, man,
I won ten plus million for my staff.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
That's money.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Oh they want they wants way more than that. It's
almost double that but yeah, it's nuts you want that.
That's part of the reason the contract haven't sign yet.
They're still working those details out. But I would say
that New York, the Giants, and the Atlanta Falcons are
tied for the next job for me. The Atlanta there's
there's some drawbacks to that. I mean, Arthur Blank's a
great owner. He's showing that he'll give you runway as well. Absolutely,
there's some pieces there. They don't probably have the quarterback,

(24:11):
you know, and there's a little bit of a cap
situation there, but that's gonna get resolved by cutting Cousins,
and they don't have a first round pick, but the
bones are there. The first round pick is actually a
great pass rusher they got last year when they traded
up for him. The bones are kind of there. The
ownership is good. That's a very winnable division in the
NFC see instead of same.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
But when it comes to the Atlanta Falcons, I'm gonna say,
and okay, right, because the things that you're talking about, Yeah,
you don't know exactly what's going on with your quarterback
position because you pay find no overpay for Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Let's just kind of put that out there.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah, Michael Pennix, I thought he overreached and getting Pennis
based on his injuries, and guess where he is right now.
He's freaking injured yet again. So now you find yourself
in quarterback purgatory.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
But you do have a good.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Roster, and you happen to be in a division that
is winnable.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Literally, they literally tied for first in the division and
just didn't go to the playoffs because.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Of tie breakers.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
And I think ownership definitely deserves to be a big factor,
and I would put the Giants and Falcons jobs up there.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
But what about the Titans. I know they've got the
machiavellian nes.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Going on, But to quote HERM Edwards, he always said
there's two types of coaches in the NFL, those with
a quarterback and those that are about to be fired.
The only one of these job openings outside the Ravens
really Giants clear or they have Dart. The Giants have Dart. Yeah,
I guess I'm taking the Giants off the board because
excy me, the hardbot thing happens outside those two. The

(25:39):
only other team with some sort of quality answer at
quarterback would be the Titans with cam Ward and with
what he showed in you know the last half of
November and December, I'd feel pretty optimistic about that.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Well, I'll argue this.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Well, even though when we look at the quarterbacks, you know,
you look at Jackson Dart, you look at the Baltimore Ravens,
I still think that Cleveland is in a good spot.
You said, Okay, well you didn't. What did you really
see out of Dylan Gabriel and Shade Sanders. I would
dare to say that you saw more out of Shador
than you saw out of Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
So if they wanted to take those two.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Tough picks that they had and say well we're gonna
go offensive line and wide receiver or move down and
get more picks, you can run with that right and
then if you still need to, if the team still
sucks in twenty twenty six, you could be in the
Arts Manning Bowl if you want to.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Well, that's what I would do. If I was the Raiders,
I would not take Mendoza at number one. I would
know how well.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Even if I did, But yeah, I would sucker somebody
into coming up and getting that pick and paying a
boatload to do it, because somebody will somebody's gonna fall
in love with Mendoza, okay, and I would.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Absolutely take those picks.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Get a journeyman guy, you know, we're right, James free
or whatever, you know, and it doesn't matter, and then
we'll go into the next draft, which has like five
or six guys that are all looked like they're going
to be serviceable starters, including the Arts Manning thing, and
we're loaded up and ready to go.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
So right now, that would be four teams right now
that would be willing to move up. And I don't
know where the Pittsburgh Steelers are, but it would be
the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Miami Dolphins, the Las Vegas Raiders,
and Arizona Carnos.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
See.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
I think the Dolphins is possibly one of the worst
jobs available right now. I think it needs another tear
it down rebuild. The defense is you know, has kind
of carried the team this year, but they're going to
lose pieces over there.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
They don't have the quarterback too.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Ain't it, And you're gonna eat a huge chunk cutting him.
You're sitting over there to a division that's got Buffalo
sitting there at the top and ascending new England team.
You're only freebies are against the Jets right now. We
don't know how long that's gonna last. You know, justin
Fields isn't gonna be in that division forever.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
That's another sneaky, dysfunctional organization. I think they've got the
longest playoff wind drought in the NFL, Like they haven't
won one since I think the nineties. The Jets, the Dolphins.
The Jets have the longest to playoff appearance drought. They
haven't made it since like twenty ten. But playoff wind drought,
I'm pretty sure is the Dolphins. They haven't won one

(27:58):
in prety some years.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Longest active drought for a win. I think it's the Jets.
No the championship with Ryan, You're right, yeah, because you
got to you got the Dolphins. It would have been
it would have been two thousand for Miami. I do believe.
Double check me on that, but I.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Think, uh, yep, they've got the longest active drought twenty
five years. It was the two thousand AFC wild Card game.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
I remember.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Second longest droughts obviously, yeah, second longest rout the Raiders,
who haven't won since they made it to the Super
bowl right and got smacked by the bus or the Bucks.
And then it's the Jets lettered with a fifteen year
dresser and the Cardinals.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Two teams in there in.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
The West that you know because the Patriots have dominated
the division for so long and now you've got Buffalo
and New England. There are good teams in that division.
At Miami job a sneaky bad.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Here is another aspect of it that you factor in,
both both as a coach and the player.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
When you look at these particular teams.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
I'm always got to think about money because at the
end of the day, that makes the world go around.
Where can your dollar go the longest or the furthest right,
You're thinking Miami, Las Vegas, And if you like southern cooking,
Atlanta is not that bad, right. So these are all
the things that these coaches are thinking about.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
And if you're.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Coming into an organization, you look at how long have
they had coaches in place? Are you firing coaches? Are
having a turnover and stab like every three years. And
if that's the case, when I walk in the door,
whether it's one of these bottom feeding jobs, I'm saying, hey,
look I.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Need more security, So I need five six years.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
So which job would you take? All things being like,
I'll give you an example for me. I would take
the Raiders job on the condition that I got that
six year deal, that they were tied to financially, they
can't fire me, and that they're in line with my
vision of trade. Now to number one, if we can
find the right buyer and we have a soft tank
in our first.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Season and build Okay, see, here's a problem that you
run into.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
So now as a coach coming in with some of
the things that you said, especially the last thing that
you said, you're now taking power out of Tom Brady's
Homeboys pocket and spy tech.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
That's a price to hire me if you want me?
Are you willing to pay that prices? And by the way,
if you turn around the Raiders, you will be immortal
in footshall a sense.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Of the world that happened. You'll become Coach of the
Year twice like Keva.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Sevanski and they get fired in your form. Somehow these
people delude themselves into white work for us.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
No, but that would be that would be my put
of all the ones that are available right now, if
I had to choose one, and on those conditions that
would be the.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Job I choose.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
You're throwing, but you're throwing in conditions like if there
was of any of these jobs that you said, ready
may preheat the oven at three six and Preston Mike
awave thirty seconds.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Dundale is past. It has to be to Baltimore Ring.
Most people are probably taking that one.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yeah, if we're at the bar, I can't be like, well,
I like her if she's a good shit and funny and.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
It's along with my parents. Yes, especially if it especially
because a young lady, well you don't know that when
you go up and.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Talk to you know, how about this, especially if if
it's a young lady who's with a group of friends
and her back is to you so you can't really
see her face, and you're saying, well, it might work
out if she fits the you know you said what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Niks over here like no, butter no, butter no, butter no.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
The idea is that I want to know what I'm
walking into right face to face.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
I want to see it. I want to know the details.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
I know off the rip, I know what I'm walking
into in that raider situation.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I know it's horrible. I know it's a horrible division.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
I know all that kind of stuff, but I like
a I like the challenge, and be I got a
vision that I could make this to work.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Tire off, I am in more, you know, saying that.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
He wants all these conditions because he is in the
AFC West.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
There are the chances that well, John Harby's gonna I mean,
Jim Harby's gonna fix everything that's happening with the charges.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Andy Reen is gonna do whatever he can to fix
everything with Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs. And he wants
a six year deal because he knows at some point
in year two and I gonna win a lot of games.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
No, the Ben's playing forty chess here, working sixty hours
a week for the indefinite future. That's for the birds.
How about I work for you for one year and
you pay me for the next five. That's he's playing chess.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
I am playing forty chess here. I'm just saying, give
me the six year deal.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
You want to fire me after a year one because
you don't like my plan, I will sit here in
cash or checks.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Hey, that Atlanta job is looking in the sweet about
a moments. What I'm saying, I have to go get
that one in year two with that, and then.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
I'll be collecting money from both of them because in
that division in NFC, sound, I mean ten games gets
you in ten games, eleven games?

Speaker 2 (32:54):
You a god.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
I was half expecting a text from Profit during that
segment saying I would take the Raiders job.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
And then just keep hanking and then leave, because you
would absolutely do that. Dude, You're brilliant. Yes, looks like
I'm going to help the Broncos out. I continue to
demolish the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I'm gonna trade the Broncos Bowers and Crosby.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
What Broncos Country thought. Josh McDaniels was the right, right, right,
He's got a white propence like I am Agent zero.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
We're gonna being an ultimate fandom, being a fandom of
the Broncos going to the Raiders and just lose games
just to better help the.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Broncos take trade the trade. That yeah, nuts, absolutely ridiculous.
Broncos Country Night back up for this
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