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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Filliing it. It's Zack Seegers crossed the roof for me.
I've got Nick Ferguson. As we get ready for another
hour of Broncos Country tonight. In the last hour, Nick
started to get into the offense versus defense a little bit,
as I said, I felt the offense carried them in
this game.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're strongly a post damn right, I am all right, Well,
I am.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
You used the correct words.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Now, I am strongly opposed to what you're presenting now.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I think the the plays of the game were the
takeaways probably, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Say the turnovers, probably what the better plays of the game,
and then you say it probably, Well, I.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Was saying probably, you lump the nm's touchdown catching there.
I think the Lil Jordan Humphrey touchdown catch. In terms
of like best plays of the game, I think that'd
be a good like top seven.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Okay, well, why don't you put them in older that?
I mean those you say top seven.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
J Quon, I think has to be one all of
the greatest plays in Broncos franchise history. Nick Benito's end
of half one, Actually i'd put that three. I probably
put the Singleton one two. I think that one changed
the game materially.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Defense, defense, defense, continue.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I think then you go Mims that was the go
ahead score. Late, I think you go Benito coming out
of the half. No, I think you go PJ Lock
the PJ Lock interception, then Nick Benito coming out of
the half, and then I'd rounded out with the Will
Jordan on free one. I think to my point, they
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made the best plays of the day. I'm not trying
to take that from them. What my argument is, there
were seventy eight plays that the defense was out there.
Seventy eight five ended in takeaways, and those were five
amazing plays made by amazing players. On the other seventy three,
they kind of got their tails handed to them. The
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Bills performed or produced at a level double that of
the best offense in the league this year, fifty better
than the best passing offense this year, and double the
best rushing attack this year. On a person at basis,
to me, that's not good enough from the defense. Ultimately,
they needed every single one of those five takeaways because
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the defense didn't prove they could keep points off the
board without a takeaway. And if they get they miss
one takeaway, the Bills get one more field goal, either
an overtime or regulation, they win that football game.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
All right, so let me further break this down for you.
Thanks for laying out your list of things. Once again,
I go back to who you playing against? Josh Allen? Right,
we know what type would do that.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
That is he's a dude of all dudes. Let's let's
be totally honest.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
What even despite the turnovers, he's still that dude and.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You made him look better than he normally is.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Come on, man, see now you were downgrading Josh Allen,
a guy who won the MVP the previous year, So
you have to be a dog of a.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Player to win that award. Would you agree?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I would? But again, on seventy three or seventy eight plays,
they would double the best offense in the league. The
best offense wins MVP. They were double that, all right.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Then they were facing the top rushing offense, so they
were behind the gun either way with the quarterback and
the running back. And what did we see from James Cook?
James Cook had a nice day on the ground, he did.
Now the Broncos are facing the twenty eighth rank rushing
defense in the league. Correct, which would you agree now
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remind me again how many yards they rushed for.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Barely any I'd say what it was probably fifty some sixties.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
No, no, for a total of seventy bow for the
second week in row led the team and rushing.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Now, I know, we look at what.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
The defense did, and I could point out some plays
where the defense could have been better, right, But then
you expect that you're going to give up some plays
against two top players like that in the league. Let's
kind of keep it a buck. But then I look
and say, okay, well, red zone three for five Buffalo.
Buffalo didn't pun in that game. So now you're looking
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at the defense where we got to get off the
field third down. They definitely need to improve and be
able to slow opposing offenses. Now I would agree with
that assessment, but also, this is a team game. So
while I'm pointing this out, I'm not trying to undermine
the offense.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
But what I'm saying we have to keep things in perspective.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
When we started to break down this team as a whole,
because the Broncos offense, they were one for four in
the red zone. Remember the week two weeks prior against
the Chargers, no touchdowns at all, and I do believe
in that game they were I think either no, they
were probably zero for four in the red zone, right what.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
They were four, and I think they were against the
Chiefs two or at least close to it.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So once again, let's keep.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
This in perspective, because this is not for me a
tear down session of either side, but it's actually presenting
to our listening audience what's actually happening and how you
need a team working in concert with one another to
pull some of these things off.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Oh. They and I'll be clear there. They don't win
this game without the defense's contributions, and the defense doesn't
win this game without bo Nix's contributions. There they needed.
This was an incredibly narrow game. They needed everything they
got from everybody to pull it out. If Jae Kwon
doesn't rip the ball from Brandon Cooks on that interception,
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the Bills win this game, certainly on that one split second.
Like that, better than anything else captures the slim margins
in the NFL, it.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Does, and that play was pivotal, just like the patser
ten interception against green Bay, because green Bay was moving
the ball down the field. Had they scored that was
going to present a problem. But then I look at
third down. Buffalo was ten to fifteen, right, so they
missed out on five.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Conversions of third down.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
The Broncos were eight of sixteen, so that's eight opportunities.
You have to move the ball down the field, set
will Lutz up and give him an opportunity to kick.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
A field goal.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
But you didn't sustain those drives, which puts your defense
back on the field, which now bleeds into the When
you look at time of possession forty minutes and fifty
eight seconds for Buffalo, the Broncos said, what twenty nine
minutes eighteen seconds. The difference of eleven minutes and thirty seconds.
This is where a team football has to come together, right.
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And my whole point is I've heard so many people
talk about this defense and how since the bye week
the defense hasn't played well. Once again, every cog has
to work simultaneously, right, And when your offense can't convert
first downs, defense is on the field. When a defense
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can't get off the field on third down, guess what,
it leaves your offense on the sideline. So as we
talk about it, my whole thing is keeping the main
thing the main thing.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
We can say the office needs to need to improve,
and so does the defense in certain areas.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
But the one thing for me, and maybe.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I'm biased because I'm a defensive person, the idea of
anyone suggesting that, hey, the defense got to do this,
they got to do damn man. Those dudes have been
carrying the load all season long, man, and it's like,
can we cut them some freaking slack. Sometimes teams are
going to score, they're gonna move the ball down the field.
But if we can criticize them and say, well, what
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they didn't do, we should damn well be able to
tell them what they did do.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
And what they did do was put the Broncos in
this position by carrying the team the first ten weeks
of the season. We were talking earlier about both struggling
some in the first half of the season. How did
the Broncos get to eight and two, you know, going
into nine and two going into the bye week. They
did it off the backs of their defense. You Know,
the offense had some spike performances here and there, you
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know against the Bengals, the Cowboys good in that first
Chiefs game, but really the Broncos won those early games
on the backs of their defense. Now where I'll push
back is I think it is fair to look at
the defense some now because now's the most important time
of the season. Absolutely Now you're trying to win a
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Super Bowl. And if you get the defense you get
or you got, I should say, from you know, week
one through week eleven, I think this team meets the
Patriots on Sunday. I feel pretty confident in that. And
if you get the defense you've gotten since the bye week,
I think the Patriots' role.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
The game on sun is going to be difficult for
a lot of reasons. Even though Drake Mays in the
second year. Remember this kid is in an MVP conversation
with Matthew Stafford, who is a long term veteran in
this league, right, So that's not something the bad eye.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
And then they have.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Austin Hooper, Hannah Henry, they have Kayshawn Boudy, they have
Stefan Diggs, they have Trevion Henderson, and they have Ramandre Stevens.
So they have some quality players. So it's going to
take everyone. I think the level of confidence for so
many people around town and then the building is because
they know they have that defense, and they're expecting Jarrett
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to go out there and have a Brad Johnson Trent
Differd type of game where you go out there.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And you operate efficiently.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
We just need you not to turn the ball over
and put the defense and a tough situation. If they
can do that, Zach, they're on their way, so Levon
Stadium and Santa.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Clara, I'd agree, And I think I'm really hoping we
see a bounce back performance from this defense in this
game because, and I'm with you, the Patriots offense is loaded,
but we've seen this defense. You know, when Dallas comes
into town, it's the number one offense in the league.
We've seen red hot Great Wenon's Dak playing out of
his mind, Javonte Williams playing out of his mind, and
they shut him down. It was twenty four points with
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Milton or Joe Milton getting a garbage time touchdown or
two at the end. They completely shut down that offense.
If they do that, man, the bar for what Jared
Sidham has to do to win this game is incredibly
like seven pig points might do it.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
It's almost little to nothing.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But if you get the version, you know they gave
up thirty to the Jags, they gave up nearly thirty
to the Packers. The second half adjustments were amazing, but
that first half was really rocky in that game, and
then you get this this Bills game here. The Commander's game,
of course post buy was rough. When they've played like
Geno Smith, Chrysal Ludukin and Trey Lance, they haven't had problems.
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But since the buye against the other quarterbacks, they have struggled.
And that's why I am looking at the defense here,
because you know, I expect Jared sid him to have
a good game, and I think it's fair to put
some expectations on him. But if there was ever a
point in the season where the offense needs the defense
to pick him up, and here I hear you they've
carried him most of the season. I mean, but if
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there was ever a point where because this is higher stakes,
this is if you don't pick them up right now,
you might be going home. It's time for the defense
to revert to, hey, we're the best unit in the
league type play.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I agree with all of that, and everyone on every
side of the ball must play their best ball.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
The coach is.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Staff, it is vital it is.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I can't stress how important it is that they be
on top of their game with their play calling. This
is not the time for panic. This is not the
time for tight butt cheets. It is not right. You
have to go out there and you have to play loose. Now,
I know as I say that that sounds easier than
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done right. And the reason I know is because I
played in a game similar to this.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Now, we wasn't with our backup quarterback.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It was with our starters, Jake Palmer, but our result
was our result.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
We didn't advance.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So the idea is that you have to go out
there and perform your best.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
You cannot leave any stone unturned.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
No one wants to hear if I would, it could
have should he If you're saying that to yourself, you're
sitting at home with everyone else watching someone else, and
that would be Drake May and the Patriots go to
Super Bowl. If you don't want to be in that position,
you have to go out there and play your best.
And also it just can't be well, the defense have
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been playing at let's say ninety percent, now they need
to play at one fifteen. No, everyone needs to play
at that level. And That's why I feel as though
when coach Payton said when he was given that announcement
about Bow's injury, insteady we trust he was sending a
perverbial message to his team.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
He was sending a message to the fan base.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
There have been so.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Many people on social media changing their avatars to Jared'stidham face.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yep, all of that, All of that is for a reason.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
This is the biggest mindscrew that you need because now
sometimes as a coach, you have to make players believe.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
That they're better than what they are.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
So with the fan support, it should elevate Jared Stidham
to a level he's never been before, because.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
He's never been in this level before ever.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I don't care what he did at Auburn, what he
did in high school, You've never been to a level
like this with so much on the line. So giving
him that boost of confidence. As they continue to talk
about it, they hope that it pays off.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Foremost Sunday, if you were on that defensive staff, you know,
trying to rally around Stitty and get this team into
the Super Bowl, what are you doing defensively? Are you
tinkering with anything defensively? What's your message to that side
of the ball the Broncos defensively, defensively coming off you know,
you got the takeaways, but I think other than that,
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maybe a rocky performance against stand them. You're just keeping staying.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
The again, you keep the main thing, the main thing.
You look at the plays that you did in that play, well,
understand why you didn't play well, because guess what if
you don't do what you need to do on the
defense side of the ball, no one cares what happens
to the him, right, that's just a wash. So the
players on the defense side of the ball, why was
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it that the Bills were that successful? And you have
to be realistic and honest, James Cook, Josh Allen, those
are two dolls.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
They're an awful matchup to the size of that offensive line,
it's a brutal matchup for that's right.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
We've seen those two do damage to the team that
they're going to play on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
So don't be surprised if there is not.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Somewhat of a replication of prior plays that the Bills
tried to run with the success against the Patriots that
Sean Payne now goes. You know what, I like that
it was successful against this particular.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Defense on this side of the field. We're gonna run that.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Get more into this matchup after the break. Stay tuned
for more Broncos Country tonight right here on eight to
fifty k awa pof to back. Does that help return?
I don't know any of the former glory to this
Broncos franchise that Hey, you're at least you've seeing these
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droughts end. They had a really long playoff drought that's
now dead, really long playoff win drought that's now dead.
Do you feel like they're not that they're back, but
they're starting to build back to that former glory.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, absolutely, and you look for signs of re establishing
the standard.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I know when the Pinners decided to purchase.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
This team, I know they were huge fans of the
Broncos organization, what the brand actually stood for, and.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
The winning culture, and they wanted to make sure.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
That that continue to grow into blossom and just be like, oh,
well those nine years ago where there was this playoff drought,
that was it. You don't want to be in the
Buffalo Bill situation where it was like eighteen years until
Sean McDermott arrived, So the Broncos have turned the corner.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
They I don't think those.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
At the Broncos facility would like for someone to say, well,
they are ahead of schedule, but they are because no
one anticipated that they would be at this particular point.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
And I get it.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
At the start every season, hope spring's eternal. You push
out those vibes and them those ideas because if you
don't believe it, no one else will about the team
being where they are at this particular point. But I'm
glad that they are, and it is showing that the
standard is coming back around. That's why I say I
look at this as though when when I say this,
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meaning the Broncos, it's the same way I look at
my life and everyone else should look.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
At their life. The bar.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Every time you go out and you do something, it
should be about raising the bar, not staying at an
even kill like some people. Some people, and I know
you've albably know some people kind of comfortable with just
being average. I am not, and I look to test
myself every single time. And this game comes down to
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a lot of pressure. And when you think about what
happened to Sean McDermott, was it right I don't think
it was right, and when you look at how things unfolded,
it's kind of a problem.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I think it's a problem get into that because we're
talking about some organizational function and dysfunction. It just makes
me think of ownership and how important ownership is in
these situations where you know, the Broncos had a really
rough decade there, but they get some solid ownership and
they kind of get dragged out of that rough patch.
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The Bills, you know, you hit on head coach, you
hit on quarterback, and you become one of the best
organizations in the NFL. But that funky owner is still
running the show behind the scenes, and every now and
then that pops up like it did today at the
Bills press conference. Here's Brandon Bean being asked why the
team fell short of expectations this year.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
And led to the group falling short of that.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I mean a bad call.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Yeah, I mean, Jay, I would say, we went to
Jacksonville and we won a good team there.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
You heard owner Terry Pagua before Brandon Bean had the
chance to answer the question, interrupt the him to yell
about the bad Brandon Cook's call, which I'm sure the
NFL won't be happy about Well, no.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
They won't be happy about that because everyone who knows.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Even if there is a.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Bad officiating call, you can't say anything about it because
a fine could be anywhere from fifty to one hundred
and fifty grand for you saying somebody evening knowledge something
that actually happened, but you can't look to me billed
out in these type of situations, Josh Allen should have
turned the ball over. But once again, I don't believe
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that Sean McDermott deserves to be fired.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I would agree, And here's ownership putting their foot in
their mouth again. One reason McDermott was maybe fired is
some young players may be struggling to develop or whatever,
Keon Coleman being one of those names.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Here.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
They asked them about the Keyon m Coleman pick not
working out, and ownership was quick to throw McDermott under
the bus and second.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Yeah, I mean I interrupt, I'll address the Keon situation.
The coaching staff pushed to draft Kon. I'm not saying
Brandon wouldn't have drafted him, but he wasn't his next choice.
That was Brandon being a team player and taking advice
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of his coaching staff who felt strongly about the player,
and you know he's taken for some reason heat over
it and not saying a word about it. But I'm
here to tell you the true story.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
That's just crazy to him. This player is still on
your roster and you're actively talking trash about him. On
top of that, we have footage from some sort of
Bills documentary, your NFL Films documentary of Brandon Bean at
this outing combine that year for reacting to Keon Coleman's
forty time, which was like a four or five seven
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going good. I hope that makes him fall to us.
So it does seem like Brandon Bean was a pretty
big fan of the pick.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Nick.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
What do you think about this dysfunction unveiling itself?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
It's crazy, but it gives you insight into the business
of football and how the business of football can ruin careers.
Obviously it's ruining career of Sean McDermott based on what
he's done. That he's ninety eight and fifty with the
Buffalo Bills, and until he took over, there was an
eighteen year playoff drought and his first year he ended
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that particular drought.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
But also just Keon Coleman.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
His name is made break through the coals because if
he's on that roster, which he still is, and he's
having the owner speak of him in this particular way
like oh no, no, no, no, Brandon Bean didn't want you.
The coaches that have waned you. So it makes you
feel a little slided as a player.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Do you have a home?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
And these mistakes that are made all the time and
the reason I say they're made all the time because
this situation and the Pagolas can't do whatever they want to.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Well, rationally, looking at the situation.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
It doesn't make sense because ideas that you lost to
the Denver Broncos, the players were so emotionally charged in
the locker room, and then looking at Josh Allen's face,
he was crying in the locker room. He didn't even
look at mister Pela when he was talking to him.
And then we saw what happened when he was at
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the podium and he was crying. And the idea is that, Okay,
well we shouldn't really experience this.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
And I think what happened is that and I think
someone wrote.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
An article about this, putting this out out there and
this is me para phrasing their comments that about five
weeks ago there was a conversation where it was Sean McDermott,
mister Pegoula and Brandon in office, and Sean McDermott must
have said, I don't think this is a Super Bowl roster,
which I think someone in a rome or multiple people
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not named Sean McDermott probably a little salty. So it
turned into the Game of Thrones is like survival of
the frid Is Dog eat Dog and watching guys have
set in the locker room and not being there myself.
It's not a great sight, but to have a knee
jerk reaction and to make a decision emotionally, it can.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Hurt your team.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
And I think the thing is that's so baffling to
me about this. The roster isn't up to snuff. It's
not it's not the best team in the league. I think,
you know, there was a lot of talk, well, Mahomes
and Jackson and Burrow aren't it in the playoffs this year?
This is the year Josh Allen has to win the
Super Bowl. And I always thought, you know, there's some
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truth to it, but I always thought it was a
little ridiculous because this is probably the worst team Josh
Allen has had around him since he's blossomed into this
high level quarterback. A really good run game with James Cook,
you got a really nice offensive line. What do you
have outside of that? You know, you've got these two
tight ends that can't really block for you, so you
can't have them on the field at the same time.
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All that often you got to really suspect receiver room.
Then the talent on defense is really atrophied. It is
not a talented defense. They're leaning hard on late stage
Joey Bosa to carry them, and we saw Joey Bosa
heard him throughout this postseason. So I think McDermott was
right to say, hey, I need a little more help here,
I need more talent. And this is just a puzzling
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move to me because again I got it some with
the Ravens or the Steelers, where those guys had been
around fifteen years and you know, maybe it was time
for a different voice McDermott. Those players I thought this
year was his best coaching job. Those players, we had
already been reported, were upset to see him leave the
locker room. This wasn't like those other cases where you
needed a fresh voice. How confident are you that they
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find a comp or even an upgrade at head coach,
And how confident are you that you know a few
years from now we're looking back at this and labeling
at a big mistake.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I'm not confident at all.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Because you mentioned John Harbar with the Baltimore Ravens, Mike
Thomlins stepping away with the Pittsburgh Steelers, and now Sean McDermott.
Sometimes you can be victims on of your own success
and whomever comes in next we'll have to take over
and do better, have a better record than Sean McDermott
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had in the first.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Couple of years.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Because remember mcdermot's first year, he was taking him out
an eighteen year playoff drop, and he went to the playoffs.
So now the guy who's taking over now, no, no, no, no,
he's not just making to the playoffs. It's getting to
an AFC championship. That's what we're looking at. But here's
the nuts and the bolts of it. And I've seen
it happen so many times in business and sports.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
This is a mistake because.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Individuals being from an emotional standpoint, not a logical standpoint,
They make decisions based on emotions, and sometimes those emotions
are not correct. You know why, ZAC, because they are subjective.
They make decisions because hey, they decided to And when
I look at the Buffalo Bills, someone need to have
a pair of brass ones in that organization to say,
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hold on, wait a minute, Sean McDermott was not the
reason the Bills didn't perform well at the trade deadline.
You should have done something about it. And that falls
in the hands of Brandon Bean, who's now the president
of football operations, who.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Got a promotion.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
That's right, so he gets a chance and choose the
next staff, the next head coach and evaluate the players.
But this goes back to and I would stick with
this point, and you've probably been in these situations or
at some point, you know, how do you now twenty
six you're going to find yourself in a situation where
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someone is not going to make a logical decision based
on you, ZAC seekers, They're going to make based off emotion, right,
and usually what I was told at Georgia Tech from
a business school standpoint, you never make the business decision
based on emotions. You know why, because you're not using logic.
You're not, but so many people do that. They make
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that mistake of making an emotional decision.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
It's not the right one.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It's subjective because they tell themselves it is the right one,
but no one has the brass Kanes like in this
situation to tell them no, man, that doesn't make sense.
And this is how players are often overlooked. And then
you see your team cut a player, he goes to
another team. He's like, wait a minute, he.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Was on our team.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
We released him.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Now he's balling somewhere else. The question is why is
he balling somewhere else? Someone in the building didn't speak
up and they didn't say what they should have said
in regards to that player, and now they find themselves
going like, gosh, don it we miss one?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And you talked about the trade deadline stuff. I don't
have the sound, but that's something that should hang over
Brandon Bean's head too. He, you know, in the off season,
dunked on the radio guys for being critical I'm not
drafting a receiver, and then at the trade deadline ned
he asked, Hey, why not make a move a receiver?
You know, there's been some receivers Rubert.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
To be on the block within.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
A division, which I didn't think the Miami Dolphins would
trade within a division.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
But his answer was, well, you've got these young gms
nowadays who grew up playing fantasy football, so they're willing
to make trades. Okay, I don't care, Like this is
guess what it helps him win Super Bowl. Sean McVay
doesn't have a Super Bowl right now, despite being one
of the greatest coaches in the last couple of decades.
If not for the team going all in and making
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some trades at the deadline and adding Von Miller and
adding some pieces. It's man like, you don't have to
do it every year, but to just poo poo it
and be like, wow, these are guys who played too
much fantasy football. Just felt so old and crimudgeony. And
you look at the of his last fifty eight draft picks.
Do you know how many evade the Pro Bowl? Zero two,
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which I don't know off the top of my head,
but these two of fifty I think it's Ed Oliver
and Gabe Davis or something. It's at Oliver and someone else,
maybe Dawson Knox, but two of fifty eight, Like you're
not doing your job of adding talent to the situation.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Now.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
But here's how.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Some front office people will look at it and say, well, here,
it is our job is to go out and get
you a player. It is your job to develop them,
all of which is true. But sometimes listen, I can
tell you as a person who played in this league
and came in this league as a free agent a
player where people thought that I didn't have the goods right,
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And all you need is one person to give you
an opportunity, and that's where your development start. Someone has
to buy into you. And this is what happens, or
I feel what happens. When guys are selected in the
first round. Not every one of those guys have a
work ethic. Some guys who are selected second to third.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Round, they're just happy to be there. But just think
about it.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
If you think about those guys who were drafted after
the third round, those free agents, how hard they work
because now they're up against it.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
No one's giving you a shot. They think, oh my god,
the pressure is going.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
To be too much.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
He's not going to be able to do it.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
But it's that pressure that forges diamonds and it pushes
you ahead. Right. Think about Tom Brady overlooked what did
he do for twenty odd years? He made every person
eat it who criticized and said that he wouldn't be
able to do it. I want to say something else,
but I'm not going to do that. But you get
my point, So Keenan Coleman. He still hasn't understood his
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position and understood.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Like, dude, I mean, you are very privileged right now.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
And because of some of the things that you didn't do,
you hurt your offense, which hurts your quarterback, hurts your team,
and your head coach got fired.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, and before we get out of here really quick.
Davis Webb has quickly emerged as one of the favorites
for this Buffalo Bill's head coaching job. He's a reportedly
best friends with Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Well, well, I believe at one point, wasn't he Josh
Allen's backup.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I'll have to safety overlapped. Oh he might have been
in Buffalo. But anyways, there's some connective tissue with Brian
Dabele and everything. What do you think about the Bills
bringing into and I'm not even asking about Davis web
the coach. What do you think about the Bills, making
Josh Allen's best friend or one of his close friends
the head coach of the team. Do you think that
is a good idea or a bad toxic idea.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
It could be a good idea because they know one another,
But I think it would be better suited if Davis
Mills was his maybe offensive coordinator, and maybe Joe Brady or.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Brian Dabel was a head coach. It'll be different than
we got.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Patrick Coyote of believing Bronco's coming up next. He's going
to talk more about that matchup with New England, what
to expect from Jared's Didham, and a whole lot more.
Stay tuned for more Broncos country tonight on KOA eight
fifty am ninety four one FM.
Filliing it. It's Zack Seegers crossed the roof for me.
I've got Nick Ferguson. As we get ready for another
hour of Broncos Country tonight. In the last hour, Nick
started to get into the offense versus defense a little bit,
as I said, I felt the offense carried them in
this game.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're strongly a post damn right, I am all right, Well,
I am.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
You used the correct words.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Now, I am strongly opposed to what you're presenting now.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I think the the plays of the game were the
takeaways probably, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Say the turnovers, probably what the better plays of the game,
and then you say it probably, Well, I.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Was saying probably, you lump the nm's touchdown catching there.
I think the Lil Jordan Humphrey touchdown catch. In terms
of like best plays of the game, I think that'd
be a good like top seven.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Okay, well, why don't you put them in older that?
I mean those you say top seven.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
J Quon, I think has to be one all of
the greatest plays in Broncos franchise history. Nick Benito's end
of half one, Actually i'd put that three. I probably
put the Singleton one two. I think that one changed
the game materially.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Defense, defense, defense, continue.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I think then you go Mims that was the go
ahead score. Late, I think you go Benito coming out
of the half. No, I think you go PJ Lock
the PJ Lock interception, then Nick Benito coming out of
the half, and then I'd rounded out with the Will
Jordan on free one. I think to my point, they
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made the best plays of the day. I'm not trying
to take that from them. What my argument is, there
were seventy eight plays that the defense was out there.
Seventy eight five ended in takeaways, and those were five
amazing plays made by amazing players. On the other seventy three,
they kind of got their tails handed to them. The
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Bills performed or produced at a level double that of
the best offense in the league this year, fifty better
than the best passing offense this year, and double the
best rushing attack this year. On a person at basis,
to me, that's not good enough from the defense. Ultimately,
they needed every single one of those five takeaways because
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the defense didn't prove they could keep points off the
board without a takeaway. And if they get they miss
one takeaway, the Bills get one more field goal, either
an overtime or regulation, they win that football game.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
All right, so let me further break this down for you.
Thanks for laying out your list of things. Once again,
I go back to who you playing against? Josh Allen? Right,
we know what type would do that.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
That is he's a dude of all dudes. Let's let's
be totally honest.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
What even despite the turnovers, he's still that dude and.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You made him look better than he normally is.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Come on, man, see now you were downgrading Josh Allen,
a guy who won the MVP the previous year, So
you have to be a dog of a.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Player to win that award. Would you agree?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I would? But again, on seventy three or seventy eight plays,
they would double the best offense in the league. The
best offense wins MVP. They were double that, all right.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Then they were facing the top rushing offense, so they
were behind the gun either way with the quarterback and
the running back. And what did we see from James Cook?
James Cook had a nice day on the ground, he did.
Now the Broncos are facing the twenty eighth rank rushing
defense in the league. Correct, which would you agree now
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remind me again how many yards they rushed for.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Barely any I'd say what it was probably fifty some sixties.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
No, no, for a total of seventy bow for the
second week in row led the team and rushing.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Now, I know, we look at what.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
The defense did, and I could point out some plays
where the defense could have been better, right, But then
you expect that you're going to give up some plays
against two top players like that in the league. Let's
kind of keep it a buck. But then I look
and say, okay, well, red zone three for five Buffalo.
Buffalo didn't pun in that game. So now you're looking
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at the defense where we got to get off the
field third down. They definitely need to improve and be
able to slow opposing offenses. Now I would agree with
that assessment, but also, this is a team game. So
while I'm pointing this out, I'm not trying to undermine
the offense.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
But what I'm saying we have to keep things in perspective.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
When we started to break down this team as a whole,
because the Broncos offense, they were one for four in
the red zone. Remember the week two weeks prior against
the Chargers, no touchdowns at all, and I do believe
in that game they were I think either no, they
were probably zero for four in the red zone, right what.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
They were four, and I think they were against the
Chiefs two or at least close to it.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So once again, let's keep.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
This in perspective, because this is not for me a
tear down session of either side, but it's actually presenting
to our listening audience what's actually happening and how you
need a team working in concert with one another to
pull some of these things off.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Oh. They and I'll be clear there. They don't win
this game without the defense's contributions, and the defense doesn't
win this game without bo Nix's contributions. There they needed.
This was an incredibly narrow game. They needed everything they
got from everybody to pull it out. If Jae Kwon
doesn't rip the ball from Brandon Cooks on that interception,
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the Bills win this game, certainly on that one split second.
Like that, better than anything else captures the slim margins
in the NFL, it.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Does, and that play was pivotal, just like the patser
ten interception against green Bay, because green Bay was moving
the ball down the field. Had they scored that was
going to present a problem. But then I look at
third down. Buffalo was ten to fifteen, right, so they
missed out on five.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Conversions of third down.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
The Broncos were eight of sixteen, so that's eight opportunities.
You have to move the ball down the field, set
will Lutz up and give him an opportunity to kick.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
A field goal.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
But you didn't sustain those drives, which puts your defense
back on the field, which now bleeds into the When
you look at time of possession forty minutes and fifty
eight seconds for Buffalo, the Broncos said, what twenty nine
minutes eighteen seconds. The difference of eleven minutes and thirty seconds.
This is where a team football has to come together, right.
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And my whole point is I've heard so many people
talk about this defense and how since the bye week
the defense hasn't played well. Once again, every cog has
to work simultaneously, right, And when your offense can't convert
first downs, defense is on the field. When a defense
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can't get off the field on third down, guess what,
it leaves your offense on the sideline. So as we
talk about it, my whole thing is keeping the main
thing the main thing.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
We can say the office needs to need to improve,
and so does the defense in certain areas.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
But the one thing for me, and maybe.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I'm biased because I'm a defensive person, the idea of
anyone suggesting that, hey, the defense got to do this,
they got to do damn man. Those dudes have been
carrying the load all season long, man, and it's like,
can we cut them some freaking slack. Sometimes teams are
going to score, they're gonna move the ball down the field.
But if we can criticize them and say, well, what
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they didn't do, we should damn well be able to
tell them what they did do.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
And what they did do was put the Broncos in
this position by carrying the team the first ten weeks
of the season. We were talking earlier about both struggling
some in the first half of the season. How did
the Broncos get to eight and two, you know, going
into nine and two going into the bye week. They
did it off the backs of their defense. You Know,
the offense had some spike performances here and there, you
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know against the Bengals, the Cowboys good in that first
Chiefs game, but really the Broncos won those early games
on the backs of their defense. Now where I'll push
back is I think it is fair to look at
the defense some now because now's the most important time
of the season. Absolutely Now you're trying to win a
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Super Bowl. And if you get the defense you get
or you got, I should say, from you know, week
one through week eleven, I think this team meets the
Patriots on Sunday. I feel pretty confident in that. And
if you get the defense you've gotten since the bye week,
I think the Patriots' role.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
The game on sun is going to be difficult for
a lot of reasons. Even though Drake Mays in the
second year. Remember this kid is in an MVP conversation
with Matthew Stafford, who is a long term veteran in
this league, right, So that's not something the bad eye.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
And then they have.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Austin Hooper, Hannah Henry, they have Kayshawn Boudy, they have
Stefan Diggs, they have Trevion Henderson, and they have Ramandre Stevens.
So they have some quality players. So it's going to
take everyone. I think the level of confidence for so
many people around town and then the building is because
they know they have that defense, and they're expecting Jarrett
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to go out there and have a Brad Johnson Trent
Differd type of game where you go out there.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And you operate efficiently.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
We just need you not to turn the ball over
and put the defense and a tough situation. If they
can do that, Zach, they're on their way, so Levon
Stadium and Santa.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Clara, I'd agree, And I think I'm really hoping we
see a bounce back performance from this defense in this
game because, and I'm with you, the Patriots offense is loaded,
but we've seen this defense. You know, when Dallas comes
into town, it's the number one offense in the league.
We've seen red hot Great Wenon's Dak playing out of
his mind, Javonte Williams playing out of his mind, and
they shut him down. It was twenty four points with
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Milton or Joe Milton getting a garbage time touchdown or
two at the end. They completely shut down that offense.
If they do that, man, the bar for what Jared
Sidham has to do to win this game is incredibly
like seven pig points might do it.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
It's almost little to nothing.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But if you get the version, you know they gave
up thirty to the Jags, they gave up nearly thirty
to the Packers. The second half adjustments were amazing, but
that first half was really rocky in that game, and
then you get this this Bills game here. The Commander's game,
of course post buy was rough. When they've played like
Geno Smith, Chrysal Ludukin and Trey Lance, they haven't had problems.
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But since the buye against the other quarterbacks, they have struggled.
And that's why I am looking at the defense here,
because you know, I expect Jared sid him to have
a good game, and I think it's fair to put
some expectations on him. But if there was ever a
point in the season where the offense needs the defense
to pick him up, and here I hear you they've
carried him most of the season. I mean, but if
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there was ever a point where because this is higher stakes,
this is if you don't pick them up right now,
you might be going home. It's time for the defense
to revert to, hey, we're the best unit in the
league type play.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I agree with all of that, and everyone on every
side of the ball must play their best ball.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
The coach is.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Staff, it is vital it is.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I can't stress how important it is that they be
on top of their game with their play calling. This
is not the time for panic. This is not the
time for tight butt cheets. It is not right. You
have to go out there and you have to play loose. Now,
I know as I say that that sounds easier than
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done right. And the reason I know is because I
played in a game similar to this.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Now, we wasn't with our backup quarterback.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It was with our starters, Jake Palmer, but our result
was our result.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
We didn't advance.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So the idea is that you have to go out
there and perform your best.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
You cannot leave any stone unturned.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
No one wants to hear if I would, it could
have should he If you're saying that to yourself, you're
sitting at home with everyone else watching someone else, and
that would be Drake May and the Patriots go to
Super Bowl. If you don't want to be in that position,
you have to go out there and play your best.
And also it just can't be well, the defense have
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been playing at let's say ninety percent, now they need
to play at one fifteen. No, everyone needs to play
at that level. And That's why I feel as though
when coach Payton said when he was given that announcement
about Bow's injury, insteady we trust he was sending a
perverbial message to his team.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
He was sending a message to the fan base.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
There have been so.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Many people on social media changing their avatars to Jared'stidham face.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yep, all of that, All of that is for a reason.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
This is the biggest mindscrew that you need because now
sometimes as a coach, you have to make players believe.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
That they're better than what they are.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
So with the fan support, it should elevate Jared Stidham
to a level he's never been before, because.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
He's never been in this level before ever.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I don't care what he did at Auburn, what he
did in high school, You've never been to a level
like this with so much on the line. So giving
him that boost of confidence. As they continue to talk
about it, they hope that it pays off.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Foremost Sunday, if you were on that defensive staff, you know,
trying to rally around Stitty and get this team into
the Super Bowl, what are you doing defensively? Are you
tinkering with anything defensively? What's your message to that side
of the ball the Broncos defensively, defensively coming off you know,
you got the takeaways, but I think other than that,
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maybe a rocky performance against stand them. You're just keeping staying.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
The again, you keep the main thing, the main thing.
You look at the plays that you did in that play, well,
understand why you didn't play well, because guess what if
you don't do what you need to do on the
defense side of the ball, no one cares what happens
to the him, right, that's just a wash. So the
players on the defense side of the ball, why was
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it that the Bills were that successful? And you have
to be realistic and honest, James Cook, Josh Allen, those
are two dolls.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
They're an awful matchup to the size of that offensive line,
it's a brutal matchup for that's right.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
We've seen those two do damage to the team that
they're going to play on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
So don't be surprised if there is not.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Somewhat of a replication of prior plays that the Bills
tried to run with the success against the Patriots that
Sean Payne now goes. You know what, I like that
it was successful against this particular.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Defense on this side of the field. We're gonna run that.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Get more into this matchup after the break. Stay tuned
for more Broncos Country tonight right here on eight to
fifty k awa pof to back. Does that help return?
I don't know any of the former glory to this
Broncos franchise that Hey, you're at least you've seeing these
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droughts end. They had a really long playoff drought that's
now dead, really long playoff win drought that's now dead.
Do you feel like they're not that they're back, but
they're starting to build back to that former glory.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, absolutely, and you look for signs of re establishing
the standard.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I know when the Pinners decided to purchase.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
This team, I know they were huge fans of the
Broncos organization, what the brand actually stood for, and.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
The winning culture, and they wanted to make sure.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
That that continue to grow into blossom and just be like, oh,
well those nine years ago where there was this playoff drought,
that was it. You don't want to be in the
Buffalo Bill situation where it was like eighteen years until
Sean McDermott arrived, So the Broncos have turned the corner.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
They I don't think those.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
At the Broncos facility would like for someone to say, well,
they are ahead of schedule, but they are because no
one anticipated that they would be at this particular point.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
And I get it.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
At the start every season, hope spring's eternal. You push
out those vibes and them those ideas because if you
don't believe it, no one else will about the team
being where they are at this particular point. But I'm
glad that they are, and it is showing that the
standard is coming back around. That's why I say I
look at this as though when when I say this,
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meaning the Broncos, it's the same way I look at
my life and everyone else should look.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
At their life. The bar.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Every time you go out and you do something, it
should be about raising the bar, not staying at an
even kill like some people. Some people, and I know
you've albably know some people kind of comfortable with just
being average. I am not, and I look to test
myself every single time. And this game comes down to
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a lot of pressure. And when you think about what
happened to Sean McDermott, was it right I don't think
it was right, and when you look at how things unfolded,
it's kind of a problem.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I think it's a problem get into that because we're
talking about some organizational function and dysfunction. It just makes
me think of ownership and how important ownership is in
these situations where you know, the Broncos had a really
rough decade there, but they get some solid ownership and
they kind of get dragged out of that rough patch.
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The Bills, you know, you hit on head coach, you
hit on quarterback, and you become one of the best
organizations in the NFL. But that funky owner is still
running the show behind the scenes, and every now and
then that pops up like it did today at the
Bills press conference. Here's Brandon Bean being asked why the
team fell short of expectations this year.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
And led to the group falling short of that.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I mean a bad call.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Yeah, I mean, Jay, I would say, we went to
Jacksonville and we won a good team there.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
You heard owner Terry Pagua before Brandon Bean had the
chance to answer the question, interrupt the him to yell
about the bad Brandon Cook's call, which I'm sure the
NFL won't be happy about Well, no.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
They won't be happy about that because everyone who knows.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Even if there is a.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Bad officiating call, you can't say anything about it because
a fine could be anywhere from fifty to one hundred
and fifty grand for you saying somebody evening knowledge something
that actually happened, but you can't look to me billed
out in these type of situations, Josh Allen should have
turned the ball over. But once again, I don't believe
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that Sean McDermott deserves to be fired.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I would agree, And here's ownership putting their foot in
their mouth again. One reason McDermott was maybe fired is
some young players may be struggling to develop or whatever,
Keon Coleman being one of those names.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Here.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
They asked them about the Keyon m Coleman pick not
working out, and ownership was quick to throw McDermott under
the bus and second.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Yeah, I mean I interrupt, I'll address the Keon situation.
The coaching staff pushed to draft Kon. I'm not saying
Brandon wouldn't have drafted him, but he wasn't his next choice.
That was Brandon being a team player and taking advice
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of his coaching staff who felt strongly about the player,
and you know he's taken for some reason heat over
it and not saying a word about it. But I'm
here to tell you the true story.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
That's just crazy to him. This player is still on
your roster and you're actively talking trash about him. On
top of that, we have footage from some sort of
Bills documentary, your NFL Films documentary of Brandon Bean at
this outing combine that year for reacting to Keon Coleman's
forty time, which was like a four or five seven
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going good. I hope that makes him fall to us.
So it does seem like Brandon Bean was a pretty
big fan of the pick.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Nick.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
What do you think about this dysfunction unveiling itself?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
It's crazy, but it gives you insight into the business
of football and how the business of football can ruin careers.
Obviously it's ruining career of Sean McDermott based on what
he's done. That he's ninety eight and fifty with the
Buffalo Bills, and until he took over, there was an
eighteen year playoff drought and his first year he ended
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that particular drought.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
But also just Keon Coleman.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
His name is made break through the coals because if
he's on that roster, which he still is, and he's
having the owner speak of him in this particular way
like oh no, no, no, no, Brandon Bean didn't want you.
The coaches that have waned you. So it makes you
feel a little slided as a player.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Do you have a home?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
And these mistakes that are made all the time and
the reason I say they're made all the time because
this situation and the Pagolas can't do whatever they want to.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Well, rationally, looking at the situation.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
It doesn't make sense because ideas that you lost to
the Denver Broncos, the players were so emotionally charged in
the locker room, and then looking at Josh Allen's face,
he was crying in the locker room. He didn't even
look at mister Pela when he was talking to him.
And then we saw what happened when he was at
(22:38):
the podium and he was crying. And the idea is that, Okay,
well we shouldn't really experience this.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
And I think what happened is that and I think
someone wrote.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
An article about this, putting this out out there and
this is me para phrasing their comments that about five
weeks ago there was a conversation where it was Sean McDermott,
mister Pegoula and Brandon in office, and Sean McDermott must
have said, I don't think this is a Super Bowl roster,
which I think someone in a rome or multiple people
(23:09):
not named Sean McDermott probably a little salty. So it
turned into the Game of Thrones is like survival of
the frid Is Dog eat Dog and watching guys have
set in the locker room and not being there myself.
It's not a great sight, but to have a knee
jerk reaction and to make a decision emotionally, it can.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Hurt your team.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
And I think the thing is that's so baffling to
me about this. The roster isn't up to snuff. It's
not it's not the best team in the league. I think,
you know, there was a lot of talk, well, Mahomes
and Jackson and Burrow aren't it in the playoffs this year?
This is the year Josh Allen has to win the
Super Bowl. And I always thought, you know, there's some
(23:50):
truth to it, but I always thought it was a
little ridiculous because this is probably the worst team Josh
Allen has had around him since he's blossomed into this
high level quarterback. A really good run game with James Cook,
you got a really nice offensive line. What do you
have outside of that? You know, you've got these two
tight ends that can't really block for you, so you
can't have them on the field at the same time.
(24:12):
All that often you got to really suspect receiver room.
Then the talent on defense is really atrophied. It is
not a talented defense. They're leaning hard on late stage
Joey Bosa to carry them, and we saw Joey Bosa
heard him throughout this postseason. So I think McDermott was
right to say, hey, I need a little more help here,
I need more talent. And this is just a puzzling
(24:34):
move to me because again I got it some with
the Ravens or the Steelers, where those guys had been
around fifteen years and you know, maybe it was time
for a different voice McDermott. Those players I thought this
year was his best coaching job. Those players, we had
already been reported, were upset to see him leave the
locker room. This wasn't like those other cases where you
needed a fresh voice. How confident are you that they
(24:57):
find a comp or even an upgrade at head coach,
And how confident are you that you know a few
years from now we're looking back at this and labeling
at a big mistake.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I'm not confident at all.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Because you mentioned John Harbar with the Baltimore Ravens, Mike
Thomlins stepping away with the Pittsburgh Steelers, and now Sean McDermott.
Sometimes you can be victims on of your own success
and whomever comes in next we'll have to take over
and do better, have a better record than Sean McDermott
(25:30):
had in the first.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Couple of years.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Because remember mcdermot's first year, he was taking him out
an eighteen year playoff drop, and he went to the playoffs.
So now the guy who's taking over now, no, no, no, no,
he's not just making to the playoffs. It's getting to
an AFC championship. That's what we're looking at. But here's
the nuts and the bolts of it. And I've seen
it happen so many times in business and sports.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
This is a mistake because.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Individuals being from an emotional standpoint, not a logical standpoint,
They make decisions based on emotions, and sometimes those emotions
are not correct. You know why, ZAC, because they are subjective.
They make decisions because hey, they decided to And when
I look at the Buffalo Bills, someone need to have
a pair of brass ones in that organization to say,
(26:17):
hold on, wait a minute, Sean McDermott was not the
reason the Bills didn't perform well at the trade deadline.
You should have done something about it. And that falls
in the hands of Brandon Bean, who's now the president
of football operations, who.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Got a promotion.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
That's right, so he gets a chance and choose the
next staff, the next head coach and evaluate the players.
But this goes back to and I would stick with
this point, and you've probably been in these situations or
at some point, you know, how do you now twenty
six you're going to find yourself in a situation where
(26:55):
someone is not going to make a logical decision based
on you, ZAC seekers, They're going to make based off emotion, right,
and usually what I was told at Georgia Tech from
a business school standpoint, you never make the business decision
based on emotions. You know why, because you're not using logic.
You're not, but so many people do that. They make
(27:16):
that mistake of making an emotional decision.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
It's not the right one.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It's subjective because they tell themselves it is the right one,
but no one has the brass Kanes like in this
situation to tell them no, man, that doesn't make sense.
And this is how players are often overlooked. And then
you see your team cut a player, he goes to
another team. He's like, wait a minute, he.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Was on our team.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
We released him.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Now he's balling somewhere else. The question is why is
he balling somewhere else? Someone in the building didn't speak
up and they didn't say what they should have said
in regards to that player, and now they find themselves
going like, gosh, don it we miss one?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And you talked about the trade deadline stuff. I don't
have the sound, but that's something that should hang over
Brandon Bean's head too. He, you know, in the off season,
dunked on the radio guys for being critical I'm not
drafting a receiver, and then at the trade deadline ned
he asked, Hey, why not make a move a receiver?
You know, there's been some receivers Rubert.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
To be on the block within.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
A division, which I didn't think the Miami Dolphins would
trade within a division.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
But his answer was, well, you've got these young gms
nowadays who grew up playing fantasy football, so they're willing
to make trades. Okay, I don't care, Like this is
guess what it helps him win Super Bowl. Sean McVay
doesn't have a Super Bowl right now, despite being one
of the greatest coaches in the last couple of decades.
If not for the team going all in and making
(28:41):
some trades at the deadline and adding Von Miller and
adding some pieces. It's man like, you don't have to
do it every year, but to just poo poo it
and be like, wow, these are guys who played too
much fantasy football. Just felt so old and crimudgeony. And
you look at the of his last fifty eight draft picks.
Do you know how many evade the Pro Bowl? Zero two,
(29:03):
which I don't know off the top of my head,
but these two of fifty I think it's Ed Oliver
and Gabe Davis or something. It's at Oliver and someone else,
maybe Dawson Knox, but two of fifty eight, Like you're
not doing your job of adding talent to the situation.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Now.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
But here's how.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Some front office people will look at it and say, well, here,
it is our job is to go out and get
you a player. It is your job to develop them,
all of which is true. But sometimes listen, I can
tell you as a person who played in this league
and came in this league as a free agent a
player where people thought that I didn't have the goods right,
(29:48):
And all you need is one person to give you
an opportunity, and that's where your development start. Someone has
to buy into you. And this is what happens, or
I feel what happens. When guys are selected in the
first round. Not every one of those guys have a
work ethic. Some guys who are selected second to third.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Round, they're just happy to be there. But just think
about it.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
If you think about those guys who were drafted after
the third round, those free agents, how hard they work
because now they're up against it.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
No one's giving you a shot. They think, oh my god,
the pressure is going.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
To be too much.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
He's not going to be able to do it.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
But it's that pressure that forges diamonds and it pushes
you ahead. Right. Think about Tom Brady overlooked what did
he do for twenty odd years? He made every person
eat it who criticized and said that he wouldn't be
able to do it. I want to say something else,
but I'm not going to do that. But you get
my point, So Keenan Coleman. He still hasn't understood his
(30:48):
position and understood.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Like, dude, I mean, you are very privileged right now.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
And because of some of the things that you didn't do,
you hurt your offense, which hurts your quarterback, hurts your team,
and your head coach got fired.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, and before we get out of here really quick.
Davis Webb has quickly emerged as one of the favorites
for this Buffalo Bill's head coaching job. He's a reportedly
best friends with Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Well, well, I believe at one point, wasn't he Josh
Allen's backup.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I'll have to safety overlapped. Oh he might have been
in Buffalo. But anyways, there's some connective tissue with Brian
Dabele and everything. What do you think about the Bills
bringing into and I'm not even asking about Davis web
the coach. What do you think about the Bills, making
Josh Allen's best friend or one of his close friends
the head coach of the team. Do you think that
is a good idea or a bad toxic idea.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
It could be a good idea because they know one another,
But I think it would be better suited if Davis
Mills was his maybe offensive coordinator, and maybe Joe Brady or.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Brian Dabel was a head coach. It'll be different than
we got.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Patrick Coyote of believing Bronco's coming up next. He's going
to talk more about that matchup with New England, what
to expect from Jared's Didham, and a whole lot more.
Stay tuned for more Broncos country tonight on KOA eight
fifty am ninety four one FM.
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