05-05-26 Hour 1 of Broncos Country Tonight

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Started coming down out there, but all bright day. Ferguson
Grant Smith here with you five six six nine zero
the text line, and it was, uh, this puppy's first
snow for me on the walk over here. Yeah, I'm
guessing you're a fan of snow. Of course, I'm a
fan of snow.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hoppey one.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Not like the snow.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
I don't go to the mountains that often, but sign
me up for the snow.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
I figured you wouldn't want to drive in it.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh no, I've lived in multiple places where it snowed,
from Buffalo, New York, to New York, New York, to
Scott's wand Canada, Regina of course.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
And uh when for one more time on that where
where in Canada? It's Regina's Regina China?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Whoa, I think with you to slow down sound like
something else, But well I.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Know what I said, and I know where the place is.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I know the audio that hit my ears.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yes, but it is great to see the snow out
there in Mother Nature blessing us with this May winter
won atlant Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's it's a lot of fun. And then uh, yeah,
I was walking the dog over here. That was interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
At first she was like, I am not going out
on that, and then about halfway through getting over here,
she was like, I love this and I don't want
to go inside now.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
So it was a battle of wills both ways.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
With her bloodline, you would think that she would be
very happy in the snow.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
By halfway through the walk, she was very happy with
the snow. I did not want to come inside.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Is your dog the type of like hunting dog.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, it's a hound, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I just wanted to make sure because there's a lot
of uh there, there's a lot of robust rabbits running around.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
There are I'm wondering, you know, to keep her on
a leashure else she will have rabbits due for dinner. Well,
I mean both of you can go too. Yes, that's
why I got the dog. I need Meils made her incredible.
I might need to get one of those dogs. You
do laundry, right, She won't eat your laundry.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
No, I want you'll get rid of your laundry if
you won't have a.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Lot of problem. She tries to eat everything. Big day
today Broncos got the first traphics on Red Murdoch mister
Irrelat first Bronco to agree to terms on his slotted
rookie deal.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh he was mister irrelevant, So it wasn't gonna take
that long to get that deal done.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Well, I mean yeah, all these are slotted anyway, and
they go in reverse order because they're slotted, so you know,
it works its way back. But you got signed today,
so there is that we've made some hadway on that.
I'd have to I have the numbers, but I don't
him in front of me. I'll try to go back
and look him up.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
But I think it's a basic rookie contract.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, well not yeah, it's a basic rookie deal for
the seventh excuse me, seventh rounder overall pick here. I've
got some number. Sorry.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
It is four point five three million, a one and
twenty two thousand dollars signing bonus and that's.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Over how many years for a four year deal? Okay,
four year deal?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
So basically a million plus a little bit over a
million a year and one hundred and twenty two thousand
is a signing bonus.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Times have changed since you're playing days, Nick, you just
want to stick it in my crass every single time.
We're just saying good for the players.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Oh, you know, absolutely good good for the players that
they have been able to do that to increase regular
season salaries. Now grant moving forward, what they need to
do right with his new collective body agreement that's coming up,
they need to start to work in the futures as
far as when they become former players.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
That's what they need, that's what they need to work on.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah, but how do you get the young guys like
Red Murdoch twenty two years old just getting four and
a half million dollars to worry about old Red Murdoch
and those medical bills.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Doesn't the line? That's easy. That's easy when Red Murdock
turns out of Ben Matt Lockey old Red.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yes, all you have to do is get him to
look at older players and ask them what are some
of the issues that they have dealt with and what
some of the challenges are that they have endure as
they try to get their benefits. That's what you do
and then hopefully it changed their mind. There's no guarantees

(04:11):
because you know, as I say, when you're young, you're
dumb and you don't think in futures.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
I think so A third statements a little bit different,
but we'll save that well, did you hear something different.
I've heard of different on the third line. There is
that more country.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Rhymes young, dumb and full of fun courtships.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
I said, fun cournships. Yeah in Regina. Yeah, smells like
cornships in here right now. Yeah. I mean this is
a natural part of the process. Happens every year. Not
a huge deal. Now, there was something that is a
huge deal earlier today, I did. I texted Ryan Gosh.
I think it was Sunday night.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Source had told me that the referees were getting close
with the CBA. That news broke today. They could be
signing tomorrow. So no, right now, it looks like no
replacement refor rees for the league. Looks like they're gonna
get the rest under contract.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Well, that was that would be a great deal for
the for the league to do that, because you don't
want to have to labor negotiations lingering over your head
one with officials and replacement referees.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
And I dare not remind anyone.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
What that was like years ago, dealing with referees. Obviously,
go back to that memorable games the Green May Packers
and the cf Seahawks, and the officials blew the call.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
But to show you how the NFL.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Works, right, and their preparations for something like this. They
plan to allow some of the officiating calls to be
corrected in New York City if there was a flub
on the field, So they were somewhat prepared for. But
I as a as a union guy, a former union guy.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
I'm glad that they're able to work through this.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
But what what this actually means in details for the
officials don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, and that'll I've got some of that that'll come
out by tomorrow, which is when they're.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
They're playing on signing this.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
As far as the rest of it goes, I hate
the idea of it being back in New York. Why
can't we just have a sky judge there at the stadium.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Well, well, you should be able to ben because you
have replay there in the building.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
What I'm saying, you got an adjudicator right there. He's
got screens, he's got replays. He buzzes down and says, hey,
you missed a call. We missed a call. Here this
car you got to call wrong, whatever the case may be,
buzzes down and overrides him. There you go. We can look.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
But it always has to be someone elf like before
it was Dean Blandino who was in charge of official officials,
so everything would flow back to New York. The guys
who are on the field, they concur they watch it.
If they are unsure, you get assistance from But why not.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Have one in every stadium?

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Why have a Why have one back in New York
where you've got multiple games going on at the same
time and they can't watch every play.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Well, if you are a guy who had a position
like Dean Landino and everyone before, yeah, you don't watch.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
He's not trying to spend the money for but one
in restadium when they could put one in New York.
That's right.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
So you got one guy who's overseeing every single game
because you have a replay group that is watching the
play and the way that it works, Like you see
their officials call a play on the field and they're unsure,
so they go to the replay group to kind of
look at it and evaluate it closely. Because I know
a lot of people get frustrated with their officials because

(07:25):
they can't make the call. But a lot of these
plays are so bang bang, so you have to go
to replay where they can actually slow it down, speed
it up. Did the running back's knee actually touch the
ground or did it get close to the ground right,
And that may determine whether that's the first down and
the key situation. And albeit for so many people like

(07:48):
yourself who makes those daily wagers, you want to make
sure they got they got it right.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, millions of dollars can change hands on one call,
hands million dollars.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
So why not get the call right? And I am
a firm believer. Even if you have to slow the
game down and we don't get to sixty minutes and
instead of sixty minutes it's.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Fifty eight minutes, I'm okay with that. Just get the
call right. Well, dombling problem caller texts one eight hundred Gimbler, Well.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
That's that's I mean at the end of the day, though, yeah,
you want to get the call right, but you can't
have the game dragging on into you know, you can't
have these stop I'm under the hood, nothing happening, you know.
The only the way to solve that for broadcast is
to immediately pitch the commercial under the hood with a
split screen. You have the ref under the hood, and

(08:37):
you split screen a commercial.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
You know that kind of thing. We've seen that happen
like last season.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
I mean, you still able to get your advertising dollars
all at the same time. Why the fishes are trying
to figure out what's going on. So that's one way
to do it. But I want to make sure you
get the call right. Was it holding, was it pass
interference right? Did he get two feet in? Or was

(09:02):
it one budget?

Speaker 3 (09:03):
I think the I think getting the call right should
be the top priority. But they've got to find a
way to streamline. And it looks like the league's going
cheap here. It looks like they're being cheap. Put one
guy in New York to handle all the games at
the same time, versus having a guy in every stadium
with three with three monitors sitting right in front of
him to be able to do it.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
See that's crazy. You have a multi.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Billion dollar industry that they have the money, and yet
they're being cheap about the situation. See that's an example
of what you call, you know, short arms and deep pockets.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Right.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
I can only go in so far just to grab limp,
but to have someone at every particular game, every game,
and even if you say that there's a person at
all every game, and you need to refer back to
New York just to verify to me that's okay. But
there should be a person in every stadium that can say,

(09:55):
you know what, this is what we saw.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
This is where the rules.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Say we're gonna go with the play on the field
or we're not going to go with the playoff field.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah. See, I think you could do that from the booth.
I don't think it'd cost you that much, and I
think it'd be good to have a different, you know,
another set of eyes. Maybe it's a way to get
some of these more experienced guys who are getting a
little long in the tooth on the field. You can
keep them employed by having them be an adjudicator in
the booth that just sits there and and does that.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Well, there are some guys who have actually done that.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
They realize that they can't.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
They don't have the same mobility that they had when
they were younger being fishers. Some of those guys are
going into the replay booth. Yeah, and I can tell you, man,
I did this a little of this replay training.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Man.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
It's it's very interesting in likeness elucidate. Okay, well, I'll
say this this is. This is my perspective on it.
The fishers on the field and the guys and the
women and the replay booth.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
I'm not going to say they always get along.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Because if you're interfishal, you're judged basically by the call
that you make on the field are the ones that
you don't make. And once again in the booth, in
the replay booth, you have some time you don't have forever,
but you have technology that you can use at your
disposal to determine whether something is legit or not. The

(11:19):
fishers on the field they don't have that. That's why,
since I've had some insight on some of this training,
I have changed the way that I.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Look at officiating.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I don't get as mad as I once did with
the officials because I know how difficult the job can
actually be when you're trying to determine whether a play
actually occurred or not. But in replay, I mean, you
got this little knob thing that you can go back
and forth like sort of.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Like a game controller, and you can see things.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
But even with that being said, Ben, some of that
is it's muddied and you have to make a subjective
opinion as far as what the rules say and what
you thought you saw. So the ideas that did you
see it, did you call it? And does it fit
the rules as they've been outlined.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, And I mean again, I think hiring a maximum
of sixteen, It really wouldn't need sixteen. You'd need you know, however,
many concurrent games are going on at a time, because
only have the stadiums are going to be occupied in
a given week, right, So you need the max of sixteen,
but really wouldn't need that many because you got Monday
night football, thirs and have football Snday night football and
two windows on the you know, the early and late games.

(12:29):
So there are there's You really wouldn't need sixteen employees.
You would need fewer than that.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
They could sit up there adjudicate these things independently from
the stadium.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
I just don't like the idea of going back to
New York. It lends to a credibility problem. It lends
to the league wanting to decide things.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Air quotes like it. Just it is a problem.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Well see, that's the league's way of saying or suggesting
that excuse me, that they are somewhat still in charge
and they are overseeing all the details of everything that
takes place. So if there is something that comes in
a question with one of these rulings, they can say, hey, listen,

(13:08):
we made it here at the league office, and this
is what we decided because these are what the rules say.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Now, if you leave it.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
To each independent person who's reviewing those plays, then there
may be some things that come into question. But the
whole thing is, we don't like to question theority because.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
I'm fine questioning authority well with concern to you.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
And that's all even because your person that was in
the military and you had to follow rules and guidelines
whether you wanted them not. Now knowing you, you probably
try to say you're vitting the rules lit.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
I mean, look, I knew what orders were, and I
knew to follow them and all that kind of stuff.
But if I had questions, I'd definitely followed up on
them after, you know, he'd execute the order of the moment,
because you can't hesitate in those types of situations.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
You can't.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
But I absolutely went back and was like, hey, Okay,
I didn't understand this in the moment. Why are we
doing this this way when this seems more efficient or
this seems better or this seems like it creates, you know,
whatever the case may be. And so you know, I
think with football's a little bit different scout life and death,
but there are if you've gotten in bed with the
sports books, wagering is a huge, huge revenue stream for you,

(14:14):
and you're gonna put it all back on one guy
in New York and make the thing look shady.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
But see, that's why they do it, because this is
what I feel they do it because that is more
of a senior position, right opposed to someone being a
judicator at one of these particular games that are being
played around the leaf.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
So you have you come back to the foremost authority, right,
isn't the foremost? He's just the boss. Like that's it,
that's the boss. We we set the table in.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
The policies as far as how the fishes operate, but
we also set the standards as far as the rules.
So if we say it's good, even though the fans
may disagree, it seems better the fact that we said it.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
It doesn't though it doesn't though, that's the thing, like
you've got now you've got all all these stupid conspiracy
theories out there that everybody and their mothers, you know,
or the league wants this or wants that or this,
you know, this, that and the other.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
And I'm like, you're giving them the opportunity to have that.
You're giving them the opportunity to But the league.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Doesn't care about that, because even.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Will if the revenue starts dropping. So here's what we've known.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Okay, there hasn't been a controversy that the NFL hasn't
gone through and endure that is stop fans from watching games.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
True, name me one of them. You're right on that.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
I'm just saying, like, if the money starts getting hit though,
and people like me like I'm getting I get annoyed
by this, I'm like, get the call right, and the
way to get the call writers to have someone on site,
not one guy manning.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
However, many games, that's what happens.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Man, If there's a blown call that costs you money,
you're gonna be pissed. But guess what, You're gonna watch
another game to see if something else happened similar. So
therefore you have something else to be upset with and
compare a contrast to your current situations. End it allows
you to different come on air and talk about it.
How upset you are that you got for one week

(16:01):
someone else benefited the next.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Not really, I'm just gonna be upset about it.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
And then you know, be like, well, there's money that
I lost that I didn't have to lose this.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Way, And you're telling me that if that said scenario
happen and you lost money one week when you thought, okay,
well here's what the call should have been. You watch
another game the following week, they don't make the same call,
and you're not gonna be You're not gonna come on
these very airwaves and give your dissertation or how upset.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
You are if they got the call wrong. I might
talk about the call been wrong, but I don't talk
about my pocketbook on the I know you're.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Not gonna talk about your pocket Well, you're gonna say
whoa You may it's that say how much money you lost?
But you're gonna say whoa that call if it were made,
they're probably a week if I your wager, Now, would
it puts money in your pocket?

Speaker 3 (16:42):
If we're having discussion on it, I will if I
and I had money on it, I'll mention that because
that's that's context the listeners should have.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
But I'm not gonna. I don't get on here to
like just talk about my pocketbook like I'm not. I
don't care.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
I want to talk about your frustration though my frustration.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I'm frustrated in the moment. Then that's gone. Man, I
don't hang on the stuff. I'm not you know, I'm
not going to those uh you know. I could be.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
I could be petty on some things, but I'm not
one of those people that hangs on to, you know,
to somebody missing a call like a the end of
the day, I'm.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
All right, what have I got to do? Go get
Dean Blandino. Fire hold on grant. Now you hear what
he's appreciating, right? No comment? What do you mean no comment?
You got a mic in front of your face. I
mean you have to comment. Let Ben speak his truth.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
And you really think that if Bay got screwed over
in that particular way, he's not gonna say anything about it.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
I would, I would respectfully disagree.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
See because remember this is the same person who I
mean had his own tirade about the issue with bot
Nicks and his injury.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Remember that that's entirely I didn't have any money on
bo Nix's injury. I mean, like as far as I
can start you talking about like which which part? How
a call?

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Well, it was a stupid call. Every quarterback run for
the twelfth.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Time after he dropped back forty times, So like your
running back to running eight times? That was stupid. It
was boneheaded decision by the coach. See that didn't have
anything to do with how much money it costs or
anything like that.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
See, all I did was throw a rock across the
france and I hit something.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Grant, it's a bone headed call. I hit that. That's
not a refereeing decision. There was a boneheaded call by
the head coach or play caller. With what we got
a different play caller. Losers and bone headed coaches. Loser
players and bone headed coaches. Carson Beck is a loser player.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
All he did was go to the national championship with Miami,
get drafted in a third round one a national.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Championship with Georgia. Right, So did I mean Matt Lioner
went to a national championship and he was a loser? Yeah?
How old he playing the pros? He's a Heisman Trophy winner,
Matt Leonard. How good was he in the NFL doesn't matter.
That's what we're talking about. That's the context of that.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
He dominated ball at USC, one of the better schools
in college football, especially.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
During that era. He got drafted.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Like you said, he was a Heisman Trophy winner, so
there was some.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Perpse that came along with that.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
But he's a loser in Ben's mind, still making millions
of dollars on TV.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
He's Tim Tebow. What a loser. Johnny Manziel, Now, maybe
that's all right? There we go. I was like one eventually,
Marcus Mariota go all day.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Marcus still playing horrible in the league late for like
twelve years.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Hey, if it was pictures beat the Broncos last year,
just got pictures of man.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
He played a hell of a game, hit the game
of his life against the Broncos.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
But I mean, you know, it's just uh ty Detmer,
Danny Wirfel.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Great college football player, Chris Winky, hell of a two
sport athlete.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Eric Crouch not great.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Jason White, remember Jason quarterback?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
The quarterback? Yeah, went undrafted in two thousand and five.
There don't remember that one. You remember Jason White? He
was Yeah, he was at Oklahoma. Is he a loser?
He got a try out for the Chiefs. They didn't
sign him.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
He got a contract I think with the Titans, and
then he just retired from football citing weak knees.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
He's a loser. I mean he cited weak knees. I
don't know he played in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
I would have gave my right arm and left leg
to play at a college football.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Program like that and have success and even have a
sniff of the NFL A sniff? What are you? What
are you sniffing there, buddy? Not what you're usually sniff
it's weight downed. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
No. But I mean, like I want to talk about
Carson back up, talk about the NFL.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
It's a dumb pick. He's the third round pick on
a guy who's not gonna do anything.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
You don't know. He don't know that. Okay, you don't know.
Aren't you the one that hates grading draft classes?

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yes, because you can't grade a draft class until three
or four years down the road.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
That is correct. And I didn't give him a letter grade.
I'm just saying that was a bad pick.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
You gave him an L yeah, right on his forehead. Okay,
smash MoU.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
He burned it. And just like it was Lord Voldemort.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
I'm just I'm just saying, like, Carson Beck isn't gonna
do anything in the league, and it's gonna be hilarious watching,
you know, watching him not do anything in the league
then coming here week after week.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
But guys, so Carson Beck didn't play again because.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
I'm not even a fan of Carson Beck and I
am rooting for him, made out.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Jacoby Brissett and the ghost of Gardner minshew.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
See that's okay. Well think let's take this back for
a second.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
What bitness saying several years ago when Cam Newton, Jake Locker,
and Blaine gabber all came back, right, the whole idea
was that Blaine Gabberd was more NFL Raider Rady than
Cam Newton. And what what? What did the NFL actually
show us a longevity?

Speaker 1 (21:42):
I nailed that draft class, by the way, with the
grades which one that one?

Speaker 3 (21:46):
I mean to Yeah, that particular draft class where everybody
was sitting there telling you, telling everybody that the Jake
Locker and what was it, Christian Ponder, those guys were
all gonna be something.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
I'm like, ponters a day three pick. What are you
doing take him the first round.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Jake Locker needs two years, you know, to get him
into and what those.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Guys were taking in the first round they once again
that's okay. So that proves the point, like you draft
guys in the first round based on I guess projection
and what they did in college football, no.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Matter what the position is.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
But even with the Cup, with pro football, you're thinking, okay,
the quarterback is going to get a team to a
certain degree, to a certain point, and it doesn't happen.
So who's to say that Carson Beck he may not
have a Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Career, but he'll be competitive.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
I usually know when dudes can't play in this league.
I'm just saying, I don't know. We can get more
into this in a minute. We got to hit a break.
Broncos cuts your night back into this.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, I threw Is there a reason?

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Why is it Maria Antoinette letting me kate type thing? What?

Speaker 1 (22:43):
I don't remember. I don't even remember what it was
for now, it's been so long. I I just remember
that they.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
They threw bread at they threw bread at them on
the stage. I'm try was it at CSU something? Was
it for Collins.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
I remember that it was at the Taste of Fort
Collins in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Okay, so it's been eleven years.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
A festival vendor was giving away free loaves of bread,
which audience members began throwing into the air and onto
the stage. The lead singer of smash Mouth, Steve Harwell,
flipped out, launching into a three minute, three minute, profanity
laced tie raide against the crowd.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Harwell threatened to.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Beat the blank out of audience members and challenge them
to come on stage.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Well Harwell was ranting.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
The rest of the band played all star in an
attempt to continue the set.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
What He's going to beat the carbs out of them?

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, you could say that. I heard.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
He had to restrain him and eventually walked off stage
before the encore.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
I'm gonna have to.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Ask about that story because, uh, one of my good
buddies plays the guitar for that band.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
So he was a smash Mouth.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
He was looking kind of crumb with his biscuit in
his bond in the shape of an L on a forehead.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Let's get him on the show. Oh oh, well, I
will reach out, reach out. Are we doing here? I'll
text him during the break. What are we doing here?
We haven't had we haven't had the You said there's
a guitarist for smash Mon. Yes, great camp.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Okay, okay, and ask.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Him about what has been dubbed bread Pocalypse.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Now if I if I do talk to him, to
him and he agrees to do it, Okay, Ben, you
can't start talking about how you hate the band.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
I'm not going to talk about how I hate the band,
just how I hate their music. That's the same thing.
Oh okay, No, I won't do that.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
If Electric Pop actually, to be honest, we Can was
a good song.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
There's everything after that that I hated. All Stars a classic.
It is classic piece of something. I question. Now, band's music?
Who tastes well? You should have been all along?

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Well, you know what, I questioned a lot of things
about Ben.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
Now, if his favorite bands like the Lightning or something
that no one's ever heard of, I don't know that
Lightning Darkness, I forget what what is that?

Speaker 1 (25:10):
An alternative band? What is that exactly? Some weird group
that Ben likes?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Well, I don't even know how you classify uh that
as a group. Now I'm gonna have to look at
up lightning. Is it spelled just like it sounds.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
I don't think it's called lightning. It's something something dumb
like that. Midnight maybe midnight, I think that's what they're called. Ben,
by the way, is currently wrangling his puppy in the studio.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
We should get that on video. That's a pretty darn
cute for a silken moolhound. Let me see midnight. Let
me look this up the midnight. They're in concert tomorrow
here in Denver. Are they admission? Bom, Oh, that's why
you're off work? Oh? Oh is it now?

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Now, it don't make true.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
It comes out Ben and ten tens of others will
be sold out, as it usually is, and it's called
them Midnight.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Hold on, it's like two dudes. Uh this two dudes
has started. They have a whole touring band.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Okay, dudes on dudes, I'm surprised you're not there, Nick?

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Why surprise I'm not there? Grant in the world? What
does that mean? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I have no idea?

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Dudes on dudes? Hey, whatever your favorite podcast? Favorite bands?
Rob Dukowski, Zilian Elderman. You know two former players right right?
Losers and Ben's mine?

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (26:40):
What I'm like it was gonna be a hall of favor.
The other is Julian Elman. See iisty.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
This dog decided to get herself tangled up in some
cables underneath the desk there.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
So now she's in time out. Dog. How do you
put a dog in time out? Put her in your
lap where she can't do anything? Fund that dog.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
I'll find your best pair of shoes, and I would
relieve myself in them.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Won't be able to find them, keeping the closet the
closed door shut. It's learned by less than day one
when she tried to teeth on things.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Hopefully the dog finds those weird loafers that been spent
eight hundred dollars on.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
I don't know what you're talking about colors, So the
ones that were like slipping slides, shoes.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
That made them fall down.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
The hell that weird about the black Oxford dress shoes
or lubatats and wearing about them or on the hell
wears those type of shoes to Broncos. We had a
TV stand up I was I was wearing a hole set.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
There was a TV.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Stand up now stand wait, so usually they called it
a cowboy shot where you're just getting the person from
the crown of their head to the bottom of their knees.
So why do you feel the knee Were those type
of expensive shoes for a TV shot where they're not
going to see your shoes? Well, don't know that they're
not going to see your shoes. Sometimes they do.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
So I was prepared just in case, and he gave
us a whole big laugh, and then I was unprepared. Yes,
I was liding down the hill every on Alexis birthday.
Every year I reposted this is that is a happy birthday?
Remember that time you brutally assaulted me. I actually have
that video on my phone. I keep it. I keep

(28:13):
it on standby. That was a good one. I don't.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
I don't anyway if your friend comes in, Oh, I'm
not gonna sit there and bag on the band like it.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
You know.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
I just want to make sure because I don't want
you to embarrass me.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
What have I have I ever more than twice in
the same show that a good show? Why let me
answer that question.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
We've we've had musical guests on that I haven't particularly
cared for their music before. Just you know, I always
enjoy having guests like that, you know, shake things up
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Okay, I'm just saying we can do more of that.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
I just want to make it's been holding out this secret.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Treasure trove of friends that are that are celebrities all
these years because he is embarrassed by us.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
He's turning under you. Whoa whoa wait wait wait, wait,
hold on now, I'm not. I'm not turning into uh Ben.
And for the record, I might be holding it close
to my.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Chest, but it's not because I'm embarrassed by both Ben
and Grant.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Just Ben. Just Ben.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Because when you're intro it's like when you take your
girlfriend home, you have to make sure that she does
she meets everyone in the family, but she doesn't meet
that uncle, right, that uncle who likes to drink a
lot and well may not be handy, but he tells
a lot of stories and so this story is a
little inappropriate.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
And he tells him multiple times exactly.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
So that's how I feel with the people that I know, Right,
I got to test the waters first.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
I got this coworker. But yeah, I don't know if.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
You want if you start on any story like that,
Hey man, can I come at you to John?

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Wait a minute, I got this coworker.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Right, So if anyone starts out a story like that,
that means there's something else behind that.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Every time, every day he gets home, every drives Lisa
Studio gets home, he pauses in the driveway for a second,
has to take a deep breath and like compose himself
before he goes in and sees missus Ferguson.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
You know what real talk If you call my wife
friend now, if I called it, she'll tell you. I
always like, dude, like that, why were you pulling the
in the garage? You don't come in right away? And
I say, well, see what it had happened was Yes,
if I called it right now, she would tell you.
I would sit in the drive at the garage door closes,

(30:30):
and I'm sitting there for like ten to fifteen minutes.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Car running windows down the wondering if it's worth it
to come back and to work tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, I mean there's something to that.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
They'll like actually collecting yourself before you come in and
and I totally get that. I used to do that
like when I was you know, wait, Mary, when I
when I was you know, living with a girlfriend that kids,
I absolutely did that.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
I get that.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
I mean, I've been at places where I worked before
where I needed to take a minute before I went
in the building, and I need to take a moment
and take a long drive when I left the building.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
So I'm not gonna call any names, but I'm just
saying I've been there before and I am a fan
of that story.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I'll see if he's available, and once he hits me back,
i'll see when, what time or whatever.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Even if we don't get him this week, we can
get him next. Let's look at next week and see
what we can do as far as games. That day
we have a full show and go for that.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
And also this week Thursday we have full s Yeah,
that's right, we have a full sho.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Rocky is their day game. Yeah, so what about Thursday?
See if he wants to go through wide open. I'll
check right now. Then we'll do that one in the
seven o'clock seven first segment. Yeah, this segment, for this
coming segment, or whenever he's available. We do have a
guest in this today's seven or five segment.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Thomas Hardy is getting gone talk a little bit of
a baseball Rocky season so far, We love talking to
Thomas Hardy. We're anlgible guy. Chris Thomasin' gonna join us
at eight oh five. We just got it at full
six pack eight thirty five.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Say go to MYO.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
I sent Grant my taco recipe. If anybody else wants that,
maybe I'll post it up on Twitter or something.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
I don't know if they're the same recipe from Taco Bell.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
I know it's a skirt steak and pineapple cilantro and
red onion.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Skirt steak, pineapple cilantro and red onion, and then there's
a marinade to the skirt steak lemon lime.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Uh, you can put a lime over the top of it.
I used to. I use ginger and garlic and soy sauce. Okay,
I'm so hungry. Grand was over here trying to pretend
that I didn't have the tacos for dinner already. I'm
not wondering if he's doing Uber eats right now. Yeah,
he's like, you know what, Ben, if you wanted to
uh put a dinner older in Usually Benzuan ask me like, hey,

(32:45):
you hungry, you wanna order something?

Speaker 4 (32:46):
No, I don't want your seven sad weird mini carrots.
It's a six six baby carrot, trick man, six baby carrot.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
I did twelve, but yeah, six baby carrots is thirty calories,
but it will fill you up. I do not believe
that six baby Yeah, I don't believe that the act
of chewing is what sends the signal to your brain
that you're about to get full. And it takes a
while to chew those things. So if you just chew
them more at a time.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
But I didn't you accomplish the same thing by just
chewing gum.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
No, because you're not actually not putting anything into your
stomach either. You swallowed the gum.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
You could swallow the gum, I guess, but that's a
little tidy bit. I'm actually getting, you know, fiber out.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Of this or whatever. So that means that you're gonna
have to go to uh the Johnson.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
No, I just I mean when you're having when you
can sum it a lot of protein, you're just supposed
to balance that with fiber.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Otherwise you're gonna have a painful time. You had too
much protein and not enough fiber.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
So you're you're you're in the bathroom like you're in
a Lama's class.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
No, not if you don't get enough fiber. If you're
sitting there just eating protein, you're in there about a
birth of baby Ben.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Did you ever hear the story of Nick almost dying
in the bathroom?

Speaker 1 (33:51):
I did not.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Amen, No, never mind, we'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
No no no no no no no no, no, no,
no no no. This is his story to tell it.
It's not my place between you and I. Only you
and I were here me and temper. Yes, yes, because
he thought you were dead.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Well why why did he think I was dead?

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Drant? Because you were gone for like thirty five minutes. Yeah,
but what did you say to him?

Speaker 4 (34:15):
I said, Hey, man, Nick's been in the bathroom for
like three segments.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
You need to go check on him.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
I'm just gonna leave, granted, picture of those top they're
sitting in front of him right now, so he can
get hungry.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Oh I'm so wait.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
So he was You were going like an entire segment,
multiple seg wait wait no, it was like one segment,
multiple segments.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
It was half of the first segment of the show,
and then he was gone through traffic at six forty two,
and then they can't come back until the top of
the next hour.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Aymen, and I was getting what I don't.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Hey, I was having a rough day and I was
eating some Minnestoni soup.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Right, we did it, and.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
And normally I don't eat Minnesoni suit because I don't
like it. But my daughter made it for me because
she was just like, hey, I want to do something
for you.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Made and of course, man's right now, are we selling
her out of the air? No, no, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
I'm not saying that it was because the Minnestrooni suit.
Because we cracked the mics and I was good, I
mean great, We had a hot open and then all
of a sudden I started sweating.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
Her literally like keeled over, waddled out of the studio
and was like I gotta go, man, see you right,
And then it never came back.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Did you come back?

Speaker 2 (35:35):
I came back. I came back and we did a
show like nothing happened, I know, absence for.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Like a half hour.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
I brought seekers out there. I was like it just
acted like nothing was happening. People were like, where's Nick David.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
They were kind of like none the wiser text.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
The textallies like Nick Nick alright until he wasn't given it.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Tarbert came in the bathroom all these so was my
shoes right, And he didn't hear anything. He just saw
my shoes and he was like, you're okay, And for
a sudden I said nothing. There for thirty secs, I
said nothing at all because I couldn't muster enough.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Because speak that's how long the lights turned off. All
died in the dark her bathroom. Yes, man, tell you
this is man. That was. That was rough.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Man.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
I was in a I was in.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
A full sweat, like like I was in a sauna.
And I can't tell you exactly what led to her.
But Grenn and I came back on there, man, and
we had a great said, well, do you want to
talk about it? I said we have to because I
was gone for I.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Guess is in that time?

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Oh need it's to say I'm never eating ministry super good.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
I like Mystery soup for me too. Yes, the game,
but I don't want those kind of reactions. Yeah, yeah,
but you leave out of it or whatever. Man, let
me tell you, man, it was. It was a moment.
It was. It was definitely believe. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
All I was trying to say was when you do
it because the diet, I want to be a ton
of protein. Now you've got to have fiber or else
you will you will learn the lessons there. You gotta
have fiber very painfully backed up. It will be very
very painful.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Now really quickly with Singo dem today being single to Mayo.
If you guys find that this is somewhat a flaw
because single to Maya obviously you know soft tacos, hot tacos.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Burrito bows or whatever.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
I started to substitute my rice with calif am i
in some kind of food violation or I'm well within
my own right.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
I think it tastes fine. It's just like you with
turkey bacon. It's so it's good, but it's not as
good as a real thing.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Although I've switched to turkey bacon just because it's lower calorie,
like you know, I can eat more of it.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
So that's that's part of what you know, as far
as my diagoes.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Get real job done, that's just not as good, quite
as satisfying as real bacon.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
So real talk really quickly.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
We have some friends over from California and they cook bacon,
and I haven't had bacon since I was ten years old,
and I.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Was just like walked in. I was like, what's that smell?
Is that bacon that missing all these years?

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I got to go to another room and open the windows.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Let myself know what I've been missing all these start
to water. We had to hit U break Thomas Hardy
when we come back.