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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Five six sixty nine zeros in text line go right
out to the Kway. Collas felt hotlining, ringing on a guy,
Thomas Harding, talk a little baseball, Thomas, How you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I feel good, I feel clean. Just sitting here watching
the snow fall.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yeah, it's uh, it is coming down out there here
with the window here at the studio. I guess they're
glad that the Rockies didn't play tonight, although you know,
it's always kind of cool optically, I think to see
baseball games played with that snowy background From time.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
To time Rockies have.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Rockies have been kind of competitive this year now a
fourteen to twenty two to the last of the division.
But they're not They're not terra bad like they were
last year. It's just been interesting this year because it
feels like the pitching has more than held up its
own end.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It's it's been the hitting that hasn't quite been there.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yes, although the hitting, frankly hasn't been there for a
few years. But if you look at the pitching, they
were able to go out and sign veteran pitchers, which
that was the thought was that they couldn't do that,
that they would never be able to do that. The
pitchers didn't want to pitch here, but they actually targeted
a few guys that.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Were ready for the course challenge.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I mean Michael Lorenz and he came running toward it.
He hasn't pitched as well as Pomeioko Sigano, who has
been really outstanding for them. He had no hits until
the sixth inning yesterday, then made a couple of mistakes
and got himself behind, but he's.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Fitched very well for them.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
And Jose Cantana. You can see he was injured at
the start of the year. You can see him each
time out performing better at home and he's performed okay
on the road. So what you have when you have
pitchers like that is you don't have the guy that's
been rushed to the major leagues that A doesn't know
the major leagues and B doesn't know the hitters and
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C doesn't know course field.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
So you've got guys who have been around.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
And I think that helps make the team more competitive.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Well, it's Almas.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
When you talk about the Rockies, I think everyone has
that big question as to not how many games the
Rockies are going to win, but how many games the
Rockies are going to lose.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
And I know that's kind of a negative.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
Way to look at things, but it's you had to
look at it.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
What would you say to Rockies fans as they have that.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Frame of mind should be focus more on the losses
or the wins.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
You can't blame them after what happened last year. But
here's the thing that no one really wants to hear,
is that this year is a means toward an end.
It's kind of the beginning project.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
If you look at the guys that.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Have sunctioned pretty well offensively, they've actually been guys they
brought in from other teams, not superstars, the guys that
give you a better advent. They know how to get
on base more than some of the younger guys that
they've had, So they're trying to establish a standard offensively.
And you're watching a process. I mean, I remember a
few years ago, who wasn't the Philadelphia seventy six ers
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where they had talked about it so much that the fans,
which can't trust the process.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
But that's what's going on here, is that.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You saw you're seeing the early part of a process.
I mean, that's not the most exciting thing in the world,
And yeah, I think after losing so many games last year,
it's probably a bit of gallows humor on the part
of the fans. But at least they are the fans,
and even though they're not coming out of the same
rate that they before, we know what happens in Denver
is that they're watching and then they will show up
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at the team turns the corner.
Speaker 7 (03:19):
Hey, Thomas Grant Smith. Here one guy who has been
heading for the Rockies. Mickey Moniac leading the National League
in ops, second in the NL and home runs. What
has been the key to his success? Early on this year, well.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Last year, he came from the Angels. Actually the Angels
released him because he had won an arbitration case and
they were watching their payroll.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I thought that was a smart movement.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
The part of Bill Schmidt is.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Going ahead and sign them.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
He had scattered them out of high school and as
a lot of fans know, he was the number one
overall pick several years back. He was a high school
outfielder and it's taken a while for him to learn
the major leagues and to develop a kind of a
and approached as a batter, and now he's a more
much more mature player, even though he's turning twenty eight,
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I think on May thirteenth. But he's a much more
mature player than frankly, some of the guys they have.
So you look at a Mickey Mognac and then you
look at some of the other guys that they have,
whether it's Ezekiel Tovar, whether it's whether it's a guy
like Brenton Doyle or Jordan Beck. Some of those guys,
they made the majors so quickly, and sometimes when you
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make the majors quickly, it takes you a while to
become that hitter. It took Mickey Moniak a while. He
was drafted by Philadelphia, broke in with them and played
for the Angels, and now he's, even though he's still
young at twenty seven, a much more mature player. So
I think when you watch Mickey Mognac and the and
the development that he's had, if you watch him then
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he says some of the other guys that maybe we're
rushed here, then that's what you're thinking that next year
or two, maybe they become Mickey Mognac.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Tyl Thomas Harding, you know, Thomas, I know Modiac's not
not a deep deesta guy. But a lot of these
deep est to moves that or at least what fear
to be deep deest to moves that they've made.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Have really panned out.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Rumfield and Johnston have looked all right, you had, uh
you mentioned already Sagano and the pictures that they brought in.
The question I have is really about a guy that's
not a deep deesk guy's Chase Dolander. What is the
deal with the starting the you know, Jimmy heard it
for an inning and then putting Dolander in or whatever.
He's pitched pretty well, but they're just not giving him
that first inning for what reason.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Well, the reason is and it's an interesting reason, and
the Mets actually did that with David Peterson, who's who's
from Denver, a left handed pitcher. What they're trying to
do right now because I think if you're developing Dolander
as an ace, what you want to do is make
sure he's pitching deep in the game. So basically what
they're doing is the first five batters, they're kind of
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having someone else handle it. So when he goes through
the order, and this is one of those statistical things
that was up in baseball. In every sport you have analytics,
they say that your effectiveness goes down the third time
through the order. But what happens if you come in
in the second inning that third time is the bottom
of the other team's order. You may get to the seventh, eighth,
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and hopefully at some point ninth inning if you're able
to control the pitch council. They want him pitching further
into the game. The thought is, and you're seeing this
with starting pitchers all around baseball, when you get to
that third time through the order and there are guys
on base, they almost automatically go to a reliever. They
want him pitching a little bit deeper. Now, at some point,
I'm sure you'll probably end up starting some games. The
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issue that they've had is their openers have given up runs.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I think given up runs.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
In five of the six games that they've had an opener,
So that's an issue, but it's not that many runs. Now,
you don't want them starting behind all the time, and
they're going to have to settle that, but they want
him pitching later in the ballgame, and I think that
experience should help him when they do put it at
at the start of the game.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
So what are your thoughts on Kyle Freeland, because I
know that he's been balanting some some injuries, and those
injuries I know as a former player how they impack
you and prevent you from really doing your job as
a high level. But what do you think about Kyle
frielin how he's played so far, in the injuries that
he's had, and how that projects well, whether or how
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but yet how better, how good he's going to be in.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
The future that is That is a good question because
at the start of the season he was pitching really
well for them. Then he you know, then he had
the injury crop up and we've seen that throughout the career.
But even last year you saw him go on the
injury list with them. I think it was the back.
Last year there was a backstrat there may have been
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something in the shoulder, but he came back and then
pitched well. I think that he hasn't quite found this
groove now. The other day against the Braves, he was
pitching them pretty well and he beaten by a lineup
That is what the Rockies want to grow up to be,
meaning they get to two strikes and they battle and
they foul off good pitches and they make you throw
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ball four and they're on base, and then next year,
you know they've hit a home run. I think Freelan
since he's gotten back, I think he's getting back to
what he was at the start of the season. Yeah,
there's going to be some injuries. That seems like something
comes up every year, but he still ends up making
right around thirty starts a year, which is average these
days where a major league main rotation guy Thomas.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
We saw Warren Schaeffer get thrown into a tough situation
last year when the Rockies decided to part ways with
Bud Black. What do you make of him in year
two now that he's a full time manager and some
of the changes he's made to how the Rockies approach
each game day in and day out.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, there is there's.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
A thought process going on here that is different from
in the past, Like for example, the Rockies. Now you're
seeing Mickey Moniak hit some home runs and also Hunter Goodman,
but it's not the most consistent lineup. So what do
they do? They have essentially a lineup against right handers
and a line up against left handers. They're very aggressive
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using the bench. I think the role model for before
Schaeffer was the Detroit Tigers with Aj Hinch.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
He does that with actually a little bit more talent there.
So what happens if the Rockies do develop.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Just generally a better roster, whether it's the guys they
have or guys that are coming up with guys they
trade for, then you can see a manager using matchups
throughout the game. He uses it for the pitchers. Also,
he's using some long relief like Antonio sends the Tella
who who in a lot of cases would still be
a starting pitcher. They're using him in relief and he's
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pitching multiple innings for them. So this is a guy
who has watched things here and has figured why do
things the way they were done in the past. So far,
I'm seeing kind of the germ of what can develop here.
We'll see as the time goes on, But it looks
like Schaeffer he has his own ideas. He's really studying
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a lot of the trends and analytics in the sport,
and he's incorporating that. He's not just saying well, I'm
old school, I'm going to do it one way. He's
able to adapt. So We'll see as it goes but
it looks like he's probably the right guy for this
team because they squeezed out some wins that maybe they
wouldn't have in the past because they're using their entire
roster and their entire pitching staff.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Tom with Thomas Harding at Harding Underscore at Underscore MLB
on Twitter. How big has the Paul Deep it has
to move been for the Colorado Rockies.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It's been. It should be a game changer as time
goes on, because it wasn't just the Paul deepotes to
move when he came in.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
It was clear he was promised that.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
They would build the analytics department, that they would build
the front office. I remember even talking to Bill Schmidt
back a few years ago, and he says, we're light
in the front offense. We've got to come up with
more people because more ideas mean better decisions. They brought
in a number of them, whether it's assistant GMS or
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or analysts or people from the outside. They increased the
number of pitching coaches. They're doing these things because this
is a unique place and you need more minds on this.
You can't just run it like any other team. So
I think eventually it'll help. And as big as the
Paul Deep Pedesta move was, I think that Walker Montfort
taken over as the president tame was a game changer
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because he went out and studied some of the smaller
market teams that do well and he's implement implementing him
a lot of that. And that's where like bringing in
Deep not just Deep Podesta, but Josh Burns as the
general manager. Burns would spent eleven years with the Dodgers,
had some history of the Rockies. It's those type of
moves that they're not going to make a huge dent
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in the win total this year. I mean, as you say, Nick, people.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Are going to be counting the losses more.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Than the wins. But I think that by doing that,
they're putting the organization in a better position moving forward.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Now I have to ask this question because we've seen
a lot of things in college football and even in
high school football to kind of celebrate and incentivize guys
doing certain things. The Rockies now have this new I
guess home run coat. It looks it's like a full
length like pimpcoat.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
That's what I call it. I call it the pimpcoat.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
What were your thoughts on it, because I don't know
where they purchased this thing, but I'm thinking I need
to get one myself.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Okay. And actually one of the new pitching coaches, Gabe Rebosch,
he knew someone who had a connection with the Marty
Grass New Orleans. Now now you understand the code a
little bit better. I do like that a full length
pimpcoat because frankly, I thought it was like an extra
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costume that Grimace for McDonald's kicks.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
So I'm going to go with the code on that.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Oh I love it cold, Thomas are That was last
last question I've got for you.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Could you explain to the listcks.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I got a lot of questions about this.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
What this calling the pitches from the dugout exactly is?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yes, the pitching coach of Loan Lashman is he is
sending in pitches based on analytics and also based on
patterns and.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
What he's doing.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It's not just the perfect pitch in the perfect situation,
but he has all the information on scouting the hitters
and he puts it out there.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Now, the catcher usually Hunter Goodman, and.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
The pitcher they do have veto power because a lot
of times you can, you can send him something from
the bench, but it's almost like a quarterback when he
sees the lineup and he changes the play at the
line of scrimmage. So, and that's the thing too. The
catcher has the PitchCom they call it, where he hits
the button and there's a word said into the pitch's
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ear piece, and the picture has that too, so they
can communicate, but they can't communicate from the bench. So
even as this grows around the game, the picture and
the catcher have some economy there.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
How many teams are how many teams are doing that?
Besides the Rocky you.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Know, yeah, we know, the Marlins and the Mets are
doing it. There are a few other things where it
looks like the catcher looks over. But I can't I
can't necessarily say that until they say it because if
they are runners on base, traditionally in baseball, the bench
coach or someone on the bench is actually is actually
setting in signals about the pickoff move or how to
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quicken the picture to the plate. But when you usually
if you're watching the game and there's nobody on base
and the catcher is looking over at the bench, something
that's coming in with them. But we do know that
the Marlins, and Lashman was with the Marlins last year
when they went to this and told the world they
were doing it. And I think this may become a
trend in baseball because baseball has a lot of numbers,
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there are a lot of patterns and everything else, and
maybe on the field you don't remember all that stuff,
so it's good to have somebody send it in. However,
I still think that that's sixty feet six inches between
the pitching rubber and home plate. The people on the field,
they're the only ones who really know. And if you
call a pitch and the pitcher doesn't believe in it,
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then the picture should have the right to be telling tells.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
We've got about sixty seconds here.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
I have to ask you about this new I guess
innovation or the way that Major League Baseball wants to
enhance and improve the game with this ABS system.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Do you like it or do you hate it?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I love it. I absolutely love it because it's quick.
I mean, you know, and I grew up listening following
the NFL a lot, and they've had so many different
replay roofs, and at times it's like, okay, we watch
a full game of standing.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
There waiting for an announcement.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
This comes up within seconds, and usually it's about eight seconds.
You know what the pitch was. I don't have a
problem with it at all, not at all. And I
like the limits on the challenges. So if you're out
of challenges, you could cost yourself the game by challenging
wrong early in the game.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
So I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I do like the fact that you can get some
pitches right, and in some key situations it could be early,
it could be late. You could flip in that beat.
Hunter Goodman has been the best catcher in baseball. At challenging.
We find that catchers are pretty reliable. Pitchers are extremely unreliable,
and so our hitters because in both cases you're moving,
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you maybe don't see the pitch all the way through,
and you're emotional about it. The catcher seems to be
in a position way to see everything.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Thats harding.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
We appreciate you as always, my friend, look forward to
talking again soon.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Absolutely take care. We had a break broughcast Country night
backing for this.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
The ka' wait newsroom and wending out the Denver Public
Schools and a Rappolist schools are closed tomorrow. Those are
the ones we know of so far. I stay tuned
to KOA for the top and Botto of the hour
news updates to let you know what for snow, apparently
we live in Denver, Colorado. Look now, Atlanta, Georgia. I
saw I saw one snow the entire time I was
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in high school, and it was less than an eighth
of an inch on the ground, and it was pandemonium.
They canceled school, the store ran out of eggs and
bread and milk.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
But yeah, it was I mean, it was absolute insanity.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
And in Arkansas received in the central Arkansas received snow
at all.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
But that's different for Arkansas though. Yeah, that's like I said.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It happened one time when I was in the entirety,
I was in high school, we had one snow.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
But here in Denver, Colorado, we have dot Like in
Atlanta when I was in college, it was only an
inch of snow an inch, and the cars were on
a highway like it was an episode of the freaking
walking Dead right, and people leaving their cars. There were
cars smashed against the side of the railing and the
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whole city shut down for an inch of snow.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Four an inch a freaking snow. Oh yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
We used to get snow days all the time in
Southeast Ohio, Like we would get multiple days in a
row because you don't have the equipment to deal with
it like you do here the dot. You it would
be uh, it would be on the ground for a week.
But isn't plows couldn't get to you.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Yeah, but isn't snow days.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Isn't that kind of like a lie because you go, oh, yeah,
no school.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
But guess what you got to make that?
Speaker 7 (18:38):
Well, snow days were real in our day, but now
you get online classes.
Speaker 8 (18:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Well you think you're at the end of the school
year though, I mean the school's about to let out
in a couple of weeks, right, you're at the other
the school year, probably just schools burning up a free
off day because you know.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
I'm I'm just saying, man, it's you just don't want
your kids at home tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
I'm not, no, doesn't know what. Meanwhile, you got one
of them out there play doude.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
I show temper the video like my wife take the
field it's covered with snow, and I'm like, well, how
can you have kids play a cross game.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
And these conditions because I'm like.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Okay, snow on the ground and they play with a
white ball. Could you imagine being the goaldie and there's
snow falling and here comes of what the white ball
coming gets you right in.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
The face, season on the line.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Yes, because you can't pay anything like this is the
first round of the playoffs, right, Come on.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Man, couldn't they get a different color ball for weather
like golf? How you like a yellow ball or orange
or like a safety orange ball so you can see
it the snow.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Well, well they do. Lacrosse balls come in different colors,
but they predominantly use just just white. But I guess
for this particular situation, yeah, you want to have a
color ball because once again, when the ball falls on
the field that has snow on and the ball is white,
you're trying to scoop the ball. You're scooping you know
a lot of snow snowball, yes, and not the ball itself.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Imagine if the football was green, right, you can't fight it. Look, man,
you would.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
Think they would have a different color, especially for lacrosse
in Colorado, like the season is overlapping with winter.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
You would think grant right, Like they are smart people
out there.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
It's like, how do they not think this stuff up right?
Or better?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Yet, we're supposed to have great weather on Friday and
I guess Thursdays, I think it's seventy one degree.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Today's going to be seventy again.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Yeah, why not do the game on Thursday Friday?
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Oh we'll cancel school tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Yeah, how it goes.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
One thing is not canceled, and that is Jodah Coleman,
the Broncos running back. He could have a pretty immediate
impact canceled somebody else out in Tyler today on this team.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Well not just that man.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Just think about Jonah Coleman and his ability on the
kickoff team right now. I don't know how he is
as far as fielding punts because that's a unique skill
set job.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Marvin Mammes has that down to a t.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
But taliber Day was used in Michael Bandy two at
one point. H Jelum McLoughlin will also use on kickoff
or wouldn't that be an excellent opportunity to give Jonah
Coleman some reps, some some valuable reps. But also he
might be a guy that might be dynamic for Darren
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Rizzy being able to gain more field position because he's small,
he's stocky, he's very powerful of strong, a little body.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
He could run through arm tackles.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
I think that's just another area that the Broncos will
or should consider using. Jonah Coleman and the fastest of
special teams.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I expect him to use him in kickoff.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I mean they've been trying to find you know, Mimes
has got the punch out, but they've been trying to
find a kickoff person.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
And you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I mean, he's he's built the right way for it,
he's got the got the speed for it. Uh, he
still just got the hands. I mean he's he was
started out as a wide receiver. You know, Jonah Coleman
was a wide receiver up until his buddy showed up
late to a football game and Coach Dockum made it
at running back by the way that buddy was on
the couch with him when he got to call these
drafts by the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
But that's uh what full circle ball?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Yeah, wait a minute, So the.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Buddy that didn't show up for the game it was
late to the game, was it was late for the game,
and Jodah Coleman was inserted in the lineup.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Moving from receiver to running back.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
He was sitting next to him on the couch when
he got a call.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Could you imagine, I mean everything you're thinking about in life,
like man, that his life that he's living.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Could have been could have been me. Maybe that's uh.
I mean, they're good friends, they're they're they're good body.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
I don't care. Listen, I don't care. I have good friends.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
But if you see one of your good friends living
a life that you think should have been yours and
not gonna be too happy about that.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I almost say I celebrate people.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I celebrate the people's successes.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, a friend, Nick Ferguson, I'm not sitting here like
like the hater's ball.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
I'm not saying that you're going to be a hater.
But at the same time, you gotta say, well, if
we can go back in time, I can redo the
situation and be on time. Guess what that could have
been me?
Speaker 7 (23:29):
Well, clearly that his friend did not have the talent
that Jonah Coleman has.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
We don't know that he was late see the translate
to the college game or whatever. So I was there
for other games, right, I mean maybe that dude's gonna
be like, you know, this is the best friend.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
That dude's gonna be his money manager now or something.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
You know, Hey, man, I don't know about I have
some friends, some good friends. I don't want to manage
my money.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Well, although to be fair, some agents have their brothers
as financial They with their brothers out as financial people.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
And yeah, they don't do that either.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
That's why they always say that avoid that agent.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
That doing business with family is not encouraged because there
can be all kinds of issues with that situation. Because
you imagine, you know, you give your brother some money
he invested in the wrong way, you lose it, and
just think about what thanksgivin dinn is going to look
a lot.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Him looking at you all bliarry, I'm looking for more money.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
No, No, where's my paper?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Uh huh, I mean it's I just thought there was
a cool story as far as that goes. But Coleman
and of himself, looks like the kind of guy that
he's going to be a kick a kickoff guy. And
Tyler Badet's replacement this year, and if JK goes down,
then he would.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Step into that role, not necessarily our j Harvey.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Harvey kind of has his role, right, So Coleman's going
to start out with with a certain role, but he
could wind up having a very large role in this
offense by the end of the year.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Yeah, I could morph into something much larger. But it
starts with kind of getting him in the groove in
the pace of pro football by putting him on.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
The kickoff team.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
That would definitely help him out tremendously opposed to like
trying to get him to run down on punt team.
You know, he may be fast, he may be you know,
thick in the low body, but there are not a
lot of offensive guys that excel and at that aspect
of special teams running down field trying to make a tackle.
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Have you ever seen some of these wide receivers run
down field and trying.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
To make tackle fun They can get there, they get there, and.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Then yeah, they don't know what they don't know what
to do.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Let's say that noise we go.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
With Ryan Edwards.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
We have too many, too many clips of making that
exact noise.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
We don't need anymore. I just keep giving them to you.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Oh, yes, that's the gift that keeps giving.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
I mean, could you imagine wide receiver a player running
down Yeah, he's throw a.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Tackle and he sounds like that.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
What's the last thing you want is Marvin Nim's going
down there trying to make a tackle. I mean, yeah,
he's gonna get there. But you'd rather have somebody built
like Jonah Coleman. There's two hundred and twenty pounds that's gonna
you know, put.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Wood in the you know, That's why I feel this.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Most people underestimate the skill set of defensive players. When
you look around on most of the special teams unit,
you have a large amount of defensive players, and you
know those second and third tier guys who will become
your core special teams guys.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Philip Homo was coached by Jed Fish at the University
of washing Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 9 (26:38):
I can just tell you that the Bronco fans and
the Bronco faith would be super excited for Jonah.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
You're talking about.
Speaker 9 (26:46):
One of the best people that I've ever been around
and coaching, and Jonah has gone from a really tough
background with a really tough neighborhood to becoming a Campbell
Award finalist and eating the nation and touchdowns.
Speaker 8 (27:01):
Until he got a little dig up there in the
last quarter of the season. But he's got elite hand,
he's got a great vision, he's a great path protector,
he's very hard to bring down, and he's going to
be an incredible representative of the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
That was Kircy of KOI Sports. Jeff Fish came on there,
talked about Jonah Coleman.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Justin Mellow of Sports Illustrated had his thoughts on Jonah
Coleman as well.
Speaker 10 (27:28):
When you watch his tape, he was a lot better
in twenty twenty four than he was in twenty twenty five.
I think a lot And listen, you know, I'm sure
he owned some of that as well, but I think
a lot of that had to do with how, you know,
his poor and honestly, the Washington Huskies offense was this
past season. I think it's a bit of a victim
of that. You go back to twenty four, he's super impressive.
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He's a kid that I had a chance to sit
down with and I had a really good conversation with him.
He is such an impressive young man. I mean, the competitiveness,
the toughness, the willingness, not a whole lot he can't do.
You know, he can catch the football, he protects on
third down, He's a really good pass protector.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
He's tough, he's physical.
Speaker 10 (28:09):
He wants it bad. His compete level.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Like I said, I sat down.
Speaker 10 (28:12):
With about one hundred and fifty prospects during this pre
draft process.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I would put Joonah Coolehan in.
Speaker 10 (28:17):
My top three in terms of the process. Who truly
impressed me with their approach, their passion for football, their character.
I have no doubt that he blew the Denver Broncos away.
Throughout this process.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Everybody raves about him as a person. And that was
justin Mellow of Sports illustrated on with the guys at
Kerry Sports. Everybody raves about Jodah Coleman as a person.
How important is that you think to this this Denver
Broncos team.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
It's very valuable, Like this team is proven that it
is not just what your ability is on the field
that's very important, It is your core values.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
What's your character like?
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Because you're gonna be asked to walk into that locker
room and try to fit into a locker room of
guys that already established there would be culture and can
you fit into that culture, but more importantly, can you
deal with the pressure. And we've seen several guys, whether
it's here with the Denver Broncos of other teams at
a different variety of positions that proven that they could
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not handle the pressure associated with being part of this organization.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
And then you take Jonah Coleman. You put him in
the room with JK.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Dobbins, who's a proven veteran regardless of the injuries, and RJ. Harvey,
who had to step in for Dobbins, and you could
say that he had a successful rookie campaign, probably not
exactly statistically the way that he wanted it, but he
still came in and he was a guy that was
I mean a bona fide demon inside the red zone
as far as his ability to catch passes.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
And get him into the end zone.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
So to have a guy like Jonah Coleman come into
this organization, you have to be made of the right stuff.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
And to get other people who really don't know you,
who meet.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
You on like a first time basis to kind of
get that type of idea with the type of person
that you are, that changes that that speaks volumes of
who you are as a player from.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
A character standpoint.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, And I think that's I think it's a big
thing for the Broncos these days.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
And it's not just making sure they get the players.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Make sure they get the right players as they've they've
got the window, they've got the roster set up the
way they want. You need culture fits, you need a
locker room fit here. You can't just throw guys in
here and you know and maybe wreck with the you know,
a good thing that they've got got going. So you
also want to talk about positions of longevity.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Well, yeah, when you when you think about what positions
in the game of football have the longest longevity. And
I thought about this because with Kalaias Campbell going back
to the Ravens on a one year deal and I
think he's in his nineteenth season and God bless him
for having an opportunity, I started thinking about what are
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some of those positions that have longevity. And the first
ones that come to mind, I think of skilled positions
like if you're a punter, you're a kicker, hell, you're
a long snapper. I mean, that is a lengthy period
of time that you can play in the NFL and
also backup quarterback.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Backup quarterbacks the money maker, right, I mean, look at
the Chase Daniel's whole career.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
Not typically defensive tackle or defensive end though, like Cli
Klais Campbell.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Well, I think that's why.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
That's so impressive is when you get guys like that
that Cam Jordan Klais Campbell play a long time in
his league, you know, in their big, big body guys.
Now you've seen some offensive linemen over the years that
have lasted a while, but defensive linemen or linebackers, guys
that are hitting every play, you know, lasting that long anymore.
Just it just doesn't happen that often. And so I
think that's why it's that's impressive. We see we routine.
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They see kickers make it to nearly forty, quarterbacks make
it to nearly forty. But yeah, you generally do not
see a big body defensive linean the knees, the back,
you know, something will give out before then.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Well, well some of those guys, depending on who you are,
you can survive an NFL season and you can play
a long period of time like there have been other
guys like Bruce Smith, who was an edge rusher played
a significant amount of time, but those are rare gems.
But in the case of Kalais, he's a big, tall
guy and he's one of those guys that you look
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to be penetrated, like he may end the season with three.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
And a half sacks, and for him that's.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
A big deal because all you need him to do
is push the pocket, force a quarterback to step outside.
And it's one of those positions that if you can
do that and you have like dominant edge rushers outside
of you, it makes life life easier.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Just like with the Broncos have like with Allen and
those guys them benefit.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
What's what's the name of the guy I can see
his face play for the New Orleans Saints that everyone
was a couple of people were talking about possibly Jordan Jordan,
Cam Jordan. Okay, Cam Jordan was still productive at this
stage of his career. But when you have edge rushers outside,
it's like you don't really have to do a whole
hell of a lot just push the pocket. How quickly
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can you get off the ball and can you press
a guy and lock him out with long arms?
Speaker 5 (33:13):
That callis Campbell has that ability.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
So that is a position and that's kind of rare,
but it still stays the same. If you are a
skilled position, you are one of those guys that play
a long time in backup quarterbacks, just.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Think about it. You only thrust into action in preseason.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah that's it.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, Well, these days you might get a game or
almost every team no quarterback plays all seventeen games anymore.
Just it just doesn't really happen. I mean there's been
there's been a few every year, but I mean like
Mahomes got hurt, ye, Mark Jackson gets hurt, Burrow gets hurt,
Bowl got you know, hurt, And that's cinematicam.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
If you're back up these days, you're probably getting some action.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
Yeah, but no one really cares about the backup until
you care about the backup a lot. Yeah, as as
grand and Joe Burr, Yeah, Joey butter Flacco over there.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, you had Joe Flacco come in. It was different.
Joe Grant's faces it all right. There, we need a break,
we come back. Chris Thomason
Five six sixty nine zeros in text line go right
out to the Kway. Collas felt hotlining, ringing on a guy,
Thomas Harding, talk a little baseball, Thomas, How you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I feel good, I feel clean. Just sitting here watching
the snow fall.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yeah, it's uh, it is coming down out there here
with the window here at the studio. I guess they're
glad that the Rockies didn't play tonight, although you know,
it's always kind of cool optically, I think to see
baseball games played with that snowy background From time.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
To time Rockies have.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Rockies have been kind of competitive this year now a
fourteen to twenty two to the last of the division.
But they're not They're not terra bad like they were
last year. It's just been interesting this year because it
feels like the pitching has more than held up its
own end.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It's it's been the hitting that hasn't quite been there.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yes, although the hitting, frankly hasn't been there for a
few years. But if you look at the pitching, they
were able to go out and sign veteran pitchers, which
that was the thought was that they couldn't do that,
that they would never be able to do that. The
pitchers didn't want to pitch here, but they actually targeted
a few guys that.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Were ready for the course challenge.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I mean Michael Lorenz and he came running toward it.
He hasn't pitched as well as Pomeioko Sigano, who has
been really outstanding for them. He had no hits until
the sixth inning yesterday, then made a couple of mistakes
and got himself behind, but he's.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Fitched very well for them.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
And Jose Cantana. You can see he was injured at
the start of the year. You can see him each
time out performing better at home and he's performed okay
on the road. So what you have when you have
pitchers like that is you don't have the guy that's
been rushed to the major leagues that A doesn't know
the major leagues and B doesn't know the hitters and
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C doesn't know course field.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
So you've got guys who have been around.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
And I think that helps make the team more competitive.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Well, it's Almas.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
When you talk about the Rockies, I think everyone has
that big question as to not how many games the
Rockies are going to win, but how many games the
Rockies are going to lose.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
And I know that's kind of a negative.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
Way to look at things, but it's you had to
look at it.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
What would you say to Rockies fans as they have that.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Frame of mind should be focus more on the losses
or the wins.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
You can't blame them after what happened last year. But
here's the thing that no one really wants to hear,
is that this year is a means toward an end.
It's kind of the beginning project.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
If you look at the guys that.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Have sunctioned pretty well offensively, they've actually been guys they
brought in from other teams, not superstars, the guys that
give you a better advent. They know how to get
on base more than some of the younger guys that
they've had, So they're trying to establish a standard offensively.
And you're watching a process. I mean, I remember a
few years ago, who wasn't the Philadelphia seventy six ers
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where they had talked about it so much that the fans,
which can't trust the process.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
But that's what's going on here, is that.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You saw you're seeing the early part of a process.
I mean, that's not the most exciting thing in the world,
And yeah, I think after losing so many games last year,
it's probably a bit of gallows humor on the part
of the fans. But at least they are the fans,
and even though they're not coming out of the same
rate that they before, we know what happens in Denver
is that they're watching and then they will show up
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at the team turns the corner.
Speaker 7 (03:19):
Hey, Thomas Grant Smith. Here one guy who has been
heading for the Rockies. Mickey Moniac leading the National League
in ops, second in the NL and home runs. What
has been the key to his success? Early on this year, well.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Last year, he came from the Angels. Actually the Angels
released him because he had won an arbitration case and
they were watching their payroll.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I thought that was a smart movement.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
The part of Bill Schmidt is.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Going ahead and sign them.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
He had scattered them out of high school and as
a lot of fans know, he was the number one
overall pick several years back. He was a high school
outfielder and it's taken a while for him to learn
the major leagues and to develop a kind of a
and approached as a batter, and now he's a more
much more mature player, even though he's turning twenty eight,
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I think on May thirteenth. But he's a much more
mature player than frankly, some of the guys they have.
So you look at a Mickey Mognac and then you
look at some of the other guys that they have,
whether it's Ezekiel Tovar, whether it's whether it's a guy
like Brenton Doyle or Jordan Beck. Some of those guys,
they made the majors so quickly, and sometimes when you
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make the majors quickly, it takes you a while to
become that hitter. It took Mickey Moniak a while. He
was drafted by Philadelphia, broke in with them and played
for the Angels, and now he's, even though he's still
young at twenty seven, a much more mature player. So
I think when you watch Mickey Mognac and the and
the development that he's had, if you watch him then
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he says some of the other guys that maybe we're
rushed here, then that's what you're thinking that next year
or two, maybe they become Mickey Mognac.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Tyl Thomas Harding, you know, Thomas, I know Modiac's not
not a deep deesta guy. But a lot of these
deep est to moves that or at least what fear
to be deep deest to moves that they've made.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Have really panned out.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Rumfield and Johnston have looked all right, you had, uh
you mentioned already Sagano and the pictures that they brought in.
The question I have is really about a guy that's
not a deep deesk guy's Chase Dolander. What is the
deal with the starting the you know, Jimmy heard it
for an inning and then putting Dolander in or whatever.
He's pitched pretty well, but they're just not giving him
that first inning for what reason.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Well, the reason is and it's an interesting reason, and
the Mets actually did that with David Peterson, who's who's
from Denver, a left handed pitcher. What they're trying to
do right now because I think if you're developing Dolander
as an ace, what you want to do is make
sure he's pitching deep in the game. So basically what
they're doing is the first five batters, they're kind of
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having someone else handle it. So when he goes through
the order, and this is one of those statistical things
that was up in baseball. In every sport you have analytics,
they say that your effectiveness goes down the third time
through the order. But what happens if you come in
in the second inning that third time is the bottom
of the other team's order. You may get to the seventh, eighth,
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and hopefully at some point ninth inning if you're able
to control the pitch council. They want him pitching further
into the game. The thought is, and you're seeing this
with starting pitchers all around baseball, when you get to
that third time through the order and there are guys
on base, they almost automatically go to a reliever. They
want him pitching a little bit deeper. Now, at some point,
I'm sure you'll probably end up starting some games. The
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issue that they've had is their openers have given up runs.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I think given up runs.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
In five of the six games that they've had an opener,
So that's an issue, but it's not that many runs. Now,
you don't want them starting behind all the time, and
they're going to have to settle that, but they want
him pitching later in the ballgame, and I think that
experience should help him when they do put it at
at the start of the game.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
So what are your thoughts on Kyle Freeland, because I
know that he's been balanting some some injuries, and those
injuries I know as a former player how they impack
you and prevent you from really doing your job as
a high level. But what do you think about Kyle
frielin how he's played so far, in the injuries that
he's had, and how that projects well, whether or how
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but yet how better, how good he's going to be in.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
The future that is That is a good question because
at the start of the season he was pitching really
well for them. Then he you know, then he had
the injury crop up and we've seen that throughout the career.
But even last year you saw him go on the
injury list with them. I think it was the back.
Last year there was a backstrat there may have been
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something in the shoulder, but he came back and then
pitched well. I think that he hasn't quite found this
groove now. The other day against the Braves, he was
pitching them pretty well and he beaten by a lineup
That is what the Rockies want to grow up to be,
meaning they get to two strikes and they battle and
they foul off good pitches and they make you throw
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ball four and they're on base, and then next year,
you know they've hit a home run. I think Freelan
since he's gotten back, I think he's getting back to
what he was at the start of the season. Yeah,
there's going to be some injuries. That seems like something
comes up every year, but he still ends up making
right around thirty starts a year, which is average these
days where a major league main rotation guy Thomas.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
We saw Warren Schaeffer get thrown into a tough situation
last year when the Rockies decided to part ways with
Bud Black. What do you make of him in year
two now that he's a full time manager and some
of the changes he's made to how the Rockies approach
each game day in and day out.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, there is there's.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
A thought process going on here that is different from
in the past, Like for example, the Rockies. Now you're
seeing Mickey Moniak hit some home runs and also Hunter Goodman,
but it's not the most consistent lineup. So what do
they do? They have essentially a lineup against right handers
and a line up against left handers. They're very aggressive
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using the bench. I think the role model for before
Schaeffer was the Detroit Tigers with Aj Hinch.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
He does that with actually a little bit more talent there.
So what happens if the Rockies do develop.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Just generally a better roster, whether it's the guys they
have or guys that are coming up with guys they
trade for, then you can see a manager using matchups
throughout the game. He uses it for the pitchers. Also,
he's using some long relief like Antonio sends the Tella
who who in a lot of cases would still be
a starting pitcher. They're using him in relief and he's
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pitching multiple innings for them. So this is a guy
who has watched things here and has figured why do
things the way they were done in the past. So far,
I'm seeing kind of the germ of what can develop here.
We'll see as the time goes on, But it looks
like Schaeffer he has his own ideas. He's really studying
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a lot of the trends and analytics in the sport,
and he's incorporating that. He's not just saying well, I'm
old school, I'm going to do it one way. He's
able to adapt. So We'll see as it goes but
it looks like he's probably the right guy for this
team because they squeezed out some wins that maybe they
wouldn't have in the past because they're using their entire
roster and their entire pitching staff.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Tom with Thomas Harding at Harding Underscore at Underscore MLB
on Twitter. How big has the Paul Deep it has
to move been for the Colorado Rockies.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It's been. It should be a game changer as time
goes on, because it wasn't just the Paul deepotes to
move when he came in.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
It was clear he was promised that.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
They would build the analytics department, that they would build
the front office. I remember even talking to Bill Schmidt
back a few years ago, and he says, we're light
in the front offense. We've got to come up with
more people because more ideas mean better decisions. They brought
in a number of them, whether it's assistant GMS or
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or analysts or people from the outside. They increased the
number of pitching coaches. They're doing these things because this
is a unique place and you need more minds on this.
You can't just run it like any other team. So
I think eventually it'll help. And as big as the
Paul Deep Pedesta move was, I think that Walker Montfort
taken over as the president tame was a game changer
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because he went out and studied some of the smaller
market teams that do well and he's implement implementing him
a lot of that. And that's where like bringing in
Deep not just Deep Podesta, but Josh Burns as the
general manager. Burns would spent eleven years with the Dodgers,
had some history of the Rockies. It's those type of
moves that they're not going to make a huge dent
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in the win total this year. I mean, as you say, Nick, people.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Are going to be counting the losses more.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Than the wins. But I think that by doing that,
they're putting the organization in a better position moving forward.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Now I have to ask this question because we've seen
a lot of things in college football and even in
high school football to kind of celebrate and incentivize guys
doing certain things. The Rockies now have this new I
guess home run coat. It looks it's like a full
length like pimpcoat.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
That's what I call it. I call it the pimpcoat.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
What were your thoughts on it, because I don't know
where they purchased this thing, but I'm thinking I need
to get one myself.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Okay. And actually one of the new pitching coaches, Gabe Rebosch,
he knew someone who had a connection with the Marty
Grass New Orleans. Now now you understand the code a
little bit better. I do like that a full length
pimpcoat because frankly, I thought it was like an extra
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costume that Grimace for McDonald's kicks.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
So I'm going to go with the code on that.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Oh I love it cold, Thomas are That was last
last question I've got for you.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Could you explain to the listcks.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I got a lot of questions about this.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
What this calling the pitches from the dugout exactly is?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yes, the pitching coach of Loan Lashman is he is
sending in pitches based on analytics and also based on
patterns and.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
What he's doing.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It's not just the perfect pitch in the perfect situation,
but he has all the information on scouting the hitters
and he puts it out there.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Now, the catcher usually Hunter Goodman, and.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
The pitcher they do have veto power because a lot
of times you can, you can send him something from
the bench, but it's almost like a quarterback when he
sees the lineup and he changes the play at the
line of scrimmage. So, and that's the thing too. The
catcher has the PitchCom they call it, where he hits
the button and there's a word said into the pitch's
(14:00):
ear piece, and the picture has that too, so they
can communicate, but they can't communicate from the bench. So
even as this grows around the game, the picture and
the catcher have some economy there.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
How many teams are how many teams are doing that?
Besides the Rocky you.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Know, yeah, we know, the Marlins and the Mets are
doing it. There are a few other things where it
looks like the catcher looks over. But I can't I
can't necessarily say that until they say it because if
they are runners on base, traditionally in baseball, the bench
coach or someone on the bench is actually is actually
setting in signals about the pickoff move or how to
(14:38):
quicken the picture to the plate. But when you usually
if you're watching the game and there's nobody on base
and the catcher is looking over at the bench, something
that's coming in with them. But we do know that
the Marlins, and Lashman was with the Marlins last year
when they went to this and told the world they
were doing it. And I think this may become a
trend in baseball because baseball has a lot of numbers,
(15:02):
there are a lot of patterns and everything else, and
maybe on the field you don't remember all that stuff,
so it's good to have somebody send it in. However,
I still think that that's sixty feet six inches between
the pitching rubber and home plate. The people on the field,
they're the only ones who really know. And if you
call a pitch and the pitcher doesn't believe in it,
(15:23):
then the picture should have the right to be telling tells.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
We've got about sixty seconds here.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
I have to ask you about this new I guess
innovation or the way that Major League Baseball wants to
enhance and improve the game with this ABS system.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Do you like it or do you hate it?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I love it. I absolutely love it because it's quick.
I mean, you know, and I grew up listening following
the NFL a lot, and they've had so many different
replay roofs, and at times it's like, okay, we watch
a full game of standing.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
There waiting for an announcement.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
This comes up within seconds, and usually it's about eight seconds.
You know what the pitch was. I don't have a
problem with it at all, not at all. And I
like the limits on the challenges. So if you're out
of challenges, you could cost yourself the game by challenging
wrong early in the game.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
So I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I do like the fact that you can get some
pitches right, and in some key situations it could be early,
it could be late. You could flip in that beat.
Hunter Goodman has been the best catcher in baseball. At challenging.
We find that catchers are pretty reliable. Pitchers are extremely unreliable,
and so our hitters because in both cases you're moving,
(16:39):
you maybe don't see the pitch all the way through,
and you're emotional about it. The catcher seems to be
in a position way to see everything.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Thats harding.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
We appreciate you as always, my friend, look forward to
talking again soon.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Absolutely take care. We had a break broughcast Country night
backing for this.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
The ka' wait newsroom and wending out the Denver Public
Schools and a Rappolist schools are closed tomorrow. Those are
the ones we know of so far. I stay tuned
to KOA for the top and Botto of the hour
news updates to let you know what for snow, apparently
we live in Denver, Colorado. Look now, Atlanta, Georgia. I
saw I saw one snow the entire time I was
(17:20):
in high school, and it was less than an eighth
of an inch on the ground, and it was pandemonium.
They canceled school, the store ran out of eggs and
bread and milk.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
But yeah, it was I mean, it was absolute insanity.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
And in Arkansas received in the central Arkansas received snow
at all.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
But that's different for Arkansas though. Yeah, that's like I said.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It happened one time when I was in the entirety,
I was in high school, we had one snow.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
But here in Denver, Colorado, we have dot Like in
Atlanta when I was in college, it was only an
inch of snow an inch, and the cars were on
a highway like it was an episode of the freaking
walking Dead right, and people leaving their cars. There were
cars smashed against the side of the railing and the
(18:09):
whole city shut down for an inch of snow.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Four an inch a freaking snow. Oh yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
We used to get snow days all the time in
Southeast Ohio, Like we would get multiple days in a
row because you don't have the equipment to deal with
it like you do here the dot. You it would
be uh, it would be on the ground for a week.
But isn't plows couldn't get to you.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Yeah, but isn't snow days.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Isn't that kind of like a lie because you go, oh, yeah,
no school.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
But guess what you got to make that?
Speaker 7 (18:38):
Well, snow days were real in our day, but now
you get online classes.
Speaker 8 (18:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Well you think you're at the end of the school
year though, I mean the school's about to let out
in a couple of weeks, right, you're at the other
the school year, probably just schools burning up a free
off day because you know.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
I'm I'm just saying, man, it's you just don't want
your kids at home tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
I'm not, no, doesn't know what. Meanwhile, you got one
of them out there play doude.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
I show temper the video like my wife take the
field it's covered with snow, and I'm like, well, how
can you have kids play a cross game.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
And these conditions because I'm like.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Okay, snow on the ground and they play with a
white ball. Could you imagine being the goaldie and there's
snow falling and here comes of what the white ball
coming gets you right in.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
The face, season on the line.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Yes, because you can't pay anything like this is the
first round of the playoffs, right, Come on.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Man, couldn't they get a different color ball for weather
like golf? How you like a yellow ball or orange
or like a safety orange ball so you can see
it the snow.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Well, well they do. Lacrosse balls come in different colors,
but they predominantly use just just white. But I guess
for this particular situation, yeah, you want to have a
color ball because once again, when the ball falls on
the field that has snow on and the ball is white,
you're trying to scoop the ball. You're scooping you know
a lot of snow snowball, yes, and not the ball itself.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Imagine if the football was green, right, you can't fight it. Look, man,
you would.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
Think they would have a different color, especially for lacrosse
in Colorado, like the season is overlapping with winter.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
You would think grant right, Like they are smart people
out there.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
It's like, how do they not think this stuff up right?
Or better?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Yet, we're supposed to have great weather on Friday and
I guess Thursdays, I think it's seventy one degree.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Today's going to be seventy again.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Yeah, why not do the game on Thursday Friday?
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Oh we'll cancel school tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Yeah, how it goes.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
One thing is not canceled, and that is Jodah Coleman,
the Broncos running back. He could have a pretty immediate
impact canceled somebody else out in Tyler today on this team.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Well not just that man.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Just think about Jonah Coleman and his ability on the
kickoff team right now. I don't know how he is
as far as fielding punts because that's a unique skill
set job.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Marvin Mammes has that down to a t.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
But taliber Day was used in Michael Bandy two at
one point. H Jelum McLoughlin will also use on kickoff
or wouldn't that be an excellent opportunity to give Jonah
Coleman some reps, some some valuable reps. But also he
might be a guy that might be dynamic for Darren
(21:40):
Rizzy being able to gain more field position because he's small,
he's stocky, he's very powerful of strong, a little body.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
He could run through arm tackles.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
I think that's just another area that the Broncos will
or should consider using. Jonah Coleman and the fastest of
special teams.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I expect him to use him in kickoff.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I mean they've been trying to find you know, Mimes
has got the punch out, but they've been trying to
find a kickoff person.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
And you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I mean, he's he's built the right way for it,
he's got the got the speed for it. Uh, he
still just got the hands. I mean he's he was
started out as a wide receiver. You know, Jonah Coleman
was a wide receiver up until his buddy showed up
late to a football game and Coach Dockum made it
at running back by the way that buddy was on
the couch with him when he got to call these
drafts by the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
But that's uh what full circle ball?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Yeah, wait a minute, So the.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Buddy that didn't show up for the game it was
late to the game, was it was late for the game,
and Jodah Coleman was inserted in the lineup.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Moving from receiver to running back.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
He was sitting next to him on the couch when
he got a call.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Could you imagine, I mean everything you're thinking about in life,
like man, that his life that he's living.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Could have been could have been me. Maybe that's uh.
I mean, they're good friends, they're they're they're good body.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
I don't care. Listen, I don't care. I have good friends.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
But if you see one of your good friends living
a life that you think should have been yours and
not gonna be too happy about that.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I almost say I celebrate people.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I celebrate the people's successes.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, a friend, Nick Ferguson, I'm not sitting here like
like the hater's ball.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
I'm not saying that you're going to be a hater.
But at the same time, you gotta say, well, if
we can go back in time, I can redo the
situation and be on time. Guess what that could have
been me?
Speaker 7 (23:29):
Well, clearly that his friend did not have the talent
that Jonah Coleman has.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
We don't know that he was late see the translate
to the college game or whatever. So I was there
for other games, right, I mean maybe that dude's gonna
be like, you know, this is the best friend.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
That dude's gonna be his money manager now or something.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
You know, Hey, man, I don't know about I have
some friends, some good friends. I don't want to manage
my money.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Well, although to be fair, some agents have their brothers
as financial They with their brothers out as financial people.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
And yeah, they don't do that either.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
That's why they always say that avoid that agent.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
That doing business with family is not encouraged because there
can be all kinds of issues with that situation. Because
you imagine, you know, you give your brother some money
he invested in the wrong way, you lose it, and
just think about what thanksgivin dinn is going to look
a lot.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Him looking at you all bliarry, I'm looking for more money.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
No, No, where's my paper?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Uh huh, I mean it's I just thought there was
a cool story as far as that goes. But Coleman
and of himself, looks like the kind of guy that
he's going to be a kick a kickoff guy. And
Tyler Badet's replacement this year, and if JK goes down,
then he would.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Step into that role, not necessarily our j Harvey.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Harvey kind of has his role, right, So Coleman's going
to start out with with a certain role, but he
could wind up having a very large role in this
offense by the end of the year.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Yeah, I could morph into something much larger. But it
starts with kind of getting him in the groove in
the pace of pro football by putting him on.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
The kickoff team.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
That would definitely help him out tremendously opposed to like
trying to get him to run down on punt team.
You know, he may be fast, he may be you know,
thick in the low body, but there are not a
lot of offensive guys that excel and at that aspect
of special teams running down field trying to make a tackle.
(25:36):
Have you ever seen some of these wide receivers run
down field and trying.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
To make tackle fun They can get there, they get there, and.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Then yeah, they don't know what they don't know what
to do.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Let's say that noise we go.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
With Ryan Edwards.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
We have too many, too many clips of making that
exact noise.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
We don't need anymore. I just keep giving them to you.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Oh, yes, that's the gift that keeps giving.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
I mean, could you imagine wide receiver a player running
down Yeah, he's throw a.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Tackle and he sounds like that.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
What's the last thing you want is Marvin Nim's going
down there trying to make a tackle. I mean, yeah,
he's gonna get there. But you'd rather have somebody built
like Jonah Coleman. There's two hundred and twenty pounds that's gonna
you know, put.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Wood in the you know, That's why I feel this.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Most people underestimate the skill set of defensive players. When
you look around on most of the special teams unit,
you have a large amount of defensive players, and you
know those second and third tier guys who will become
your core special teams guys.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Philip Homo was coached by Jed Fish at the University
of washing Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 9 (26:38):
I can just tell you that the Bronco fans and
the Bronco faith would be super excited for Jonah.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
You're talking about.
Speaker 9 (26:46):
One of the best people that I've ever been around
and coaching, and Jonah has gone from a really tough
background with a really tough neighborhood to becoming a Campbell
Award finalist and eating the nation and touchdowns.
Speaker 8 (27:01):
Until he got a little dig up there in the
last quarter of the season. But he's got elite hand,
he's got a great vision, he's a great path protector,
he's very hard to bring down, and he's going to
be an incredible representative of the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
That was Kircy of KOI Sports. Jeff Fish came on there,
talked about Jonah Coleman.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Justin Mellow of Sports Illustrated had his thoughts on Jonah
Coleman as well.
Speaker 10 (27:28):
When you watch his tape, he was a lot better
in twenty twenty four than he was in twenty twenty five.
I think a lot And listen, you know, I'm sure
he owned some of that as well, but I think
a lot of that had to do with how, you know,
his poor and honestly, the Washington Huskies offense was this
past season. I think it's a bit of a victim
of that. You go back to twenty four, he's super impressive.
(27:50):
He's a kid that I had a chance to sit
down with and I had a really good conversation with him.
He is such an impressive young man. I mean, the competitiveness,
the toughness, the willingness, not a whole lot he can't do.
You know, he can catch the football, he protects on
third down, He's a really good pass protector.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
He's tough, he's physical.
Speaker 10 (28:09):
He wants it bad. His compete level.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Like I said, I sat down.
Speaker 10 (28:12):
With about one hundred and fifty prospects during this pre
draft process.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I would put Joonah Coolehan in.
Speaker 10 (28:17):
My top three in terms of the process. Who truly
impressed me with their approach, their passion for football, their character.
I have no doubt that he blew the Denver Broncos away.
Throughout this process.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Everybody raves about him as a person. And that was
justin Mellow of Sports illustrated on with the guys at
Kerry Sports. Everybody raves about Jodah Coleman as a person.
How important is that you think to this this Denver
Broncos team.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
It's very valuable, Like this team is proven that it
is not just what your ability is on the field
that's very important, It is your core values.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
What's your character like?
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Because you're gonna be asked to walk into that locker
room and try to fit into a locker room of
guys that already established there would be culture and can
you fit into that culture, but more importantly, can you
deal with the pressure. And we've seen several guys, whether
it's here with the Denver Broncos of other teams at
a different variety of positions that proven that they could
(29:18):
not handle the pressure associated with being part of this organization.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
And then you take Jonah Coleman. You put him in
the room with JK.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Dobbins, who's a proven veteran regardless of the injuries, and RJ. Harvey,
who had to step in for Dobbins, and you could
say that he had a successful rookie campaign, probably not
exactly statistically the way that he wanted it, but he
still came in and he was a guy that was
I mean a bona fide demon inside the red zone
as far as his ability to catch passes.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
And get him into the end zone.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
So to have a guy like Jonah Coleman come into
this organization, you have to be made of the right stuff.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
And to get other people who really don't know you,
who meet.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
You on like a first time basis to kind of
get that type of idea with the type of person
that you are, that changes that that speaks volumes of
who you are as a player from.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
A character standpoint.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, And I think that's I think it's a big
thing for the Broncos these days.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
And it's not just making sure they get the players.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Make sure they get the right players as they've they've
got the window, they've got the roster set up the
way they want. You need culture fits, you need a
locker room fit here. You can't just throw guys in
here and you know and maybe wreck with the you know,
a good thing that they've got got going. So you
also want to talk about positions of longevity.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Well, yeah, when you when you think about what positions
in the game of football have the longest longevity. And
I thought about this because with Kalaias Campbell going back
to the Ravens on a one year deal and I
think he's in his nineteenth season and God bless him
for having an opportunity, I started thinking about what are
(30:57):
some of those positions that have longevity. And the first
ones that come to mind, I think of skilled positions
like if you're a punter, you're a kicker, hell, you're
a long snapper. I mean, that is a lengthy period
of time that you can play in the NFL and
also backup quarterback.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Backup quarterbacks the money maker, right, I mean, look at
the Chase Daniel's whole career.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
Not typically defensive tackle or defensive end though, like Cli
Klais Campbell.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Well, I think that's why.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
That's so impressive is when you get guys like that
that Cam Jordan Klais Campbell play a long time in
his league, you know, in their big, big body guys.
Now you've seen some offensive linemen over the years that
have lasted a while, but defensive linemen or linebackers, guys
that are hitting every play, you know, lasting that long anymore.
Just it just doesn't happen that often. And so I
think that's why it's that's impressive. We see we routine.
(31:45):
They see kickers make it to nearly forty, quarterbacks make
it to nearly forty. But yeah, you generally do not
see a big body defensive linean the knees, the back,
you know, something will give out before then.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Well, well some of those guys, depending on who you are,
you can survive an NFL season and you can play
a long period of time like there have been other
guys like Bruce Smith, who was an edge rusher played
a significant amount of time, but those are rare gems.
But in the case of Kalais, he's a big, tall
guy and he's one of those guys that you look
(32:18):
to be penetrated, like he may end the season with three.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
And a half sacks, and for him that's.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
A big deal because all you need him to do
is push the pocket, force a quarterback to step outside.
And it's one of those positions that if you can
do that and you have like dominant edge rushers outside
of you, it makes life life easier.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Just like with the Broncos have like with Allen and
those guys them benefit.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
What's what's the name of the guy I can see
his face play for the New Orleans Saints that everyone
was a couple of people were talking about possibly Jordan Jordan,
Cam Jordan. Okay, Cam Jordan was still productive at this
stage of his career. But when you have edge rushers outside,
it's like you don't really have to do a whole
hell of a lot just push the pocket. How quickly
(33:07):
can you get off the ball and can you press
a guy and lock him out with long arms?
Speaker 5 (33:13):
That callis Campbell has that ability.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
So that is a position and that's kind of rare,
but it still stays the same. If you are a
skilled position, you are one of those guys that play
a long time in backup quarterbacks, just.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Think about it. You only thrust into action in preseason.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah that's it.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, Well, these days you might get a game or
almost every team no quarterback plays all seventeen games anymore.
Just it just doesn't really happen. I mean there's been
there's been a few every year, but I mean like
Mahomes got hurt, ye, Mark Jackson gets hurt, Burrow gets hurt,
Bowl got you know, hurt, And that's cinematicam.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
If you're back up these days, you're probably getting some action.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
Yeah, but no one really cares about the backup until
you care about the backup a lot. Yeah, as as
grand and Joe Burr, Yeah, Joey butter Flacco over there.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, you had Joe Flacco come in. It was different.
Joe Grant's faces it all right. There, we need a break,
we come back. Chris Thomason
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