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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here with you five six six nine zero.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
The text line as always, but show did I Greg
Camp It's hard from Smash smash Mouth joining us at
seven o five Sean Keeler eight oh five. Guys, uh
enjoying on me not being around last night?

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Oh we had some fun. I had a blast. Yeah
you want to half hour? Yeah you want to disappear again?
Then and then the Rockies. I was just asking, does
he want to disappear again?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I mean, if I could use it after day, it's
been a day. It has been a day well into it,
but it's been a day.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Well really quickly.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
I mean I saw you with a handful of papers,
and I didn't know if this was kind of a
throwback to you know what news was years ago.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
No, that's something completely different. I've not come in prepared
at all. That is not notes for the show.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Because I was thrown off because I merely asked Grant.
I was like, wait a minute, something's wrong. Ben has
a handful of papers, and I'm thinking, did he really
prepare for tonight's show?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Not?

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Okay, so not even leaving it. Living in an upside
down world.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
To know he was off yesterday. Maybe something changed. I
don't know. That's what I was thinking. Not even close.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Okay, you want to hear something that made my day?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
One of the best calls I've ever heard from Jack
Corgan and the Rockies win.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Want to hear it one?

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:24):
Well, hit the right, stay fair baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
It is foul. No, it's gone. I thought they were
gonna call it soul touch of all time. Sake McCarthy
a grand tour.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
If it holds up to him, I'm sure what's gonna
be a review. It will be the first Brand Slam
of the season for the Rockies, and.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Of course it did hold up, and the Rockies won
six to two over the Mets today, taking the final
game of the series and winning the season series against
the Mets.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
There you go, there's some good news, there's some fun stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Well, it's good for the Rockies because coming into that
series obviously had lost.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Like six in a row and losing streak was seven
that they snapped today seven.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
So now they take on the Phillies, who's losing right now,
and the Phillies had won four or five in a
row of themselves. So interesting, you win the game, right,
the series on this particular series, not the way you
wanted to, But what a way to end the series
as you head into the series against the Phillies and

(02:37):
you take the wins wherever you can get them. That's
what I'm saying now. You are you still on the
eighty two?

Speaker 4 (02:44):
I'm gonna hold out for a little bit longer, hold
out lost today.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
I probably with the.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Under they only need sixty seven more, yeah, fifteen and
twenty two or twenty three. Yeah, I think they get
a nice little seven or eight game wins at some
point in the season, right around five hundred again, and
there's still chance.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Did you make a I could be wrong. Did you
make a wager at any point with Ben about?

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yes? No, what I mean I thought? Am I am?
I losing my mind?

Speaker 4 (03:16):
I thought there was, Sir. I don't think we did, Sir.
We bet about the Bengals defense phase.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
What we did we added, Yeah, twenty year through thirty
two is where I bet you bet one through.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Twenty Yes, yeah, I don't think we bet on a
five hundred season for the Rocky.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
See I'm thinking I'm thinking I heard.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
I don't don't know. I think that's that's that's fake news.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I'm gonna have to get back.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
We have all take on this deep in the archive
grants like furiously deleting the podcast date.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Now see here's what's it happened that at the moment
there is some kind of a gentleman's wager made here
in the studio.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
We should put it on the board. Yeah, we did.
We we do need a big board.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yep, so we know and we don't run into a
situation where we're not sure who said what when they
said it.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Well, once we get the water working again, an iHeart,
maybe we can the water big board.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
No water on the fourth floor. I didn't know that,
thanks for So we go to the john.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
The bathroom is working, water fountain and sink in the
kitchen not working.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Oh that's easy.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Just go to the john and turn on the faucet
and put water in your cup.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Ryan said the same thing. Dave was like, exactly, it's water. Yeah,
do you know what's floating around in the air in
that room? You're taking it open right in there. So
you old people, Hey, listen, I had my old water.
So I'm just trying to help you guys. I'm good.
I'm a camel is.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
A spigot by which he comes out because if you
go in the common area, flowing around to.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
That area not as much as closing off in that
closed door bathroom over here. Not the poop particles floating
around the air. So do you have issues with something
to float around? Just open up the damn No, I'm kid.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
What's wrong with well, Nick is he feels very at
home in that bathroom after that story had shared the
other night about almost dying in there.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Come to Jesus moment in the iheartback.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Hey, hey, look we're talking about that, And you could
see like his eyes as he recalled the moment, and
you could see the fear in the in his eyes
as he recalled the moment, thinking I got a dead.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Body in here.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Broncos Safety. Nick ferguson the iHeart building Temper's watching.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
So the idea of Temper walking in and thinking that, okay,
I'm coming to something that would have been shocking within
his own right, but just the same for the sake
of argument, if that was my final moment, Dave was
gonna have to actually take me up off the toilet, right,
one hell of a story for him, right.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
I would have hit the commercial break earlier and helped
him lift you off the toilet, you're Elvis Presley death.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Well, first of all, if that ever happen, right, at
least pull my pants.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Up, all right, let me let let me look presentable.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
I'll not tampered. Do that.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Guys, run, don't walk over to my place and delete
my browser history.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
So that's the that's the first thing you guys.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Just leave him on the floor. You get just running
as the browser history.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
In the drawer to the left of the oven, there's
there's a thing with rith rubber gloves in there, so
you don't leave any prints.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Go in there, put the gloves on, get out of there.
Just saying you walk in Bean's places. Got plastic everywhere?
Oh no, I'm saying I've got surgical glove. I love that. Okay,
plastic everywhere. That's plastic.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
But I'm weird, not that weird. I think you both
would be pleasantly shocked. Like this is the thing. I
think most people are stunned to fight that. I am
such an obsessive neat freak. I can see that that
you're a clean guy.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Do you really think that? Yeah, most people are stunned.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I no, Okay, there's a difference between being cleaned and
obsessively clean obsessive.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
There's a difference between the two.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Right, I would call myself clean very much like a
tidy house.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
But I'm not dusting every there's there's no dust.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
There is no like in the the sink basin is
cleaned out after every dish, after every dishes, run through
it with chemicals. See, the countertops are constantly sanitized.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
That's like my mom. Like my mom.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Even though my mom didn't serve in the military, you
would think that she did because your sheets had to be.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, I got to the folders, howels evenide, you know,
the ones that you use in the bathroom, the hand toles,
they have to be.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Presented on the track. Think about this grant.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Your mom comes in, like people always talk about, like
a white glove.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Service, meaning how cleanly the place is.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Littally, my mom would do that, come in with the
white glove and just trying to make sure.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
I'm just like, what are you doing here? Yeah? Who
are we? Who are you trying to impress?

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, I can bring the white glove on over. It's
gonna stay white.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
That's how I was raised. And just saying that's how
I was Did it carry over well?

Speaker 3 (08:12):
For for for me, it did. I don't do the
white glove treatment. But some of my siblings was like,
to hell with it. So they got to the point
where they said, well, if she's gonna get upset that
you didn't clean it the way that she wanted to
clean it, and is she going to go back and clean.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
It for you?

Speaker 3 (08:28):
So they said they just sit there and let her,
let her yell at them or whatever, but she's going
to clean it anyway. So that way, that's how they
got their chores. Me, on the other hand, I'm trying
to clean up.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
That's why you are Mama Ferguson's favorite. See. But it's
not just that.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Like everything is ordered, Like all my shirts hang the
same direction. They're all color coordinated. It's short sleeves first,
long sleeves first.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
It's black, white, red and yellow, green, blue, inticole.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Violet, black, black, black, black, black shirts.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
They're all my all, my all, my t shirts.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Everything are folded trifolded, just like the way they are
in the department store.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
The jeans are folded in pancakestacks, just like the department
What's black shirt I'm going to wear today? I grab
a hard choice, just grabbed the next one. I don't
want the medium V neck black T shirt. There are
no medium shirts in there, the crew neck.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
You guys, you guys all know that there's not a
single medium shirt in there.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
What size you wearing right now?

Speaker 5 (09:25):
Small?

Speaker 1 (09:26):
See there is going to go the other way.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
There's not a single medium shirt in there.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
But you know what, But grint, I could attest to
what Benn is talking about. People will say is you're
ain't a ratin attentive. If you do, you have that
type of personality. But I do the same thing. My
clothes have to be like on a certain type of hangers,
and it has to be color.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Coordinat same same hangar for each type of clothing too.
What a waste of mental space. There's no there's no
mental space to it. Because I know where everything goes exactly.
I never give it a second thought, and it just
freaks you out. If something's I'll notice it right away.
Know someone's been in your closet, I'll notice it right away.
From something's out of place.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
I get putting all your shirts in the same direction
because you want to see what you got. When you're
looking through what's on the front of the shirt? What
am I gonna wear today, but color coordinated. Yeah, it
changes life a certain type of hangar. Yes, I know
right where everything is.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
I can always find where everything is exactly that and
it doesn't require any mental energy.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
You set it up once and then you forget it.
It's done, dude.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Okay, someone's food's transparency. I hope my wife is not listening.
If she is, I maybe me over here at camera two.
I am so atal about laundry that I do most
of the laundry in the house. So if someone does
get the laundry and fold it up, I refold it

(10:46):
because there's a certain way I like to have it folded,
so I could put it neatly in my dresser drawers,
so it looks like an accordion, right, and it's and
it's color coordinated.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Right. But that's where I am. My wife folded up
while she's talking.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
To me, I'll shake it out and refolded, like, oh.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, cool, that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
So are you doing that just for your clothes or
for everyone in the households closed?

Speaker 3 (11:10):
I do for mine, Remember everybody else? Come home, man,
I just washed and drive your clothes. I mean, I
folded them up, but I'm not folding them as though
I folded mine. We just we just have very unique
ways of doing things, all.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Right, I just it's in order to way of doing things.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
My socks are folded exactly the right way, my underwear
folded exactly the same way.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
And I'm wondering, Ben, I didn't serve in the armed forces.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
But I was that way before the army.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I was in r r OTC in high school, and
you had to dress a certain way.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yes, so Grant, maybe you need some of that r
O TC in your life. No, thank you, with all.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Due respect that I don't mean this. I do not
mean this as as slight as it did. I struggle, Well,
you think about picturing me in the army. I struggle
to picture.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
You with me.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Hey, I had an interview at West Point coming out
of high school.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Why didn't you what happened one.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Of the Well, I won't say it's a regret, because
my life wouldn't have turned out the way it did
if I would have taken that interview. But I didn't
take the interview because I didn't want to part ways
with my high school girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Okay, here's the thing. I can actually picture you as
an officer. I cannot picture you as enough to say that.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
My brother was in the Marines and he's like, God,
these dweebs that come.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
In from the academy, I cannot picture tell us what
to do.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
No.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
I saw my brother go through boot camp and he
exchanged a lot of letters with me during that time,
and I thought, this is something I would never want
to do.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
You're glad your girlfriend changed her mind. I'm going to college.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
I'm gonna go party my you know what, off graduate
in five years and I ended up breaking up with
that same girl halfway through my freshman year of college.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Oh my goodness, big show tonight. Nick, you got to
tell your buddy.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Man great Camp is going to definitely join us and uh,
you know, lead guitars for smash Mouth, and really quickly,
I know we're not gonna have him on just yet.
But we got a chance to know each other in
California because our kids went to the same school. And

(13:21):
obviously at the time, I didn't know he was in
smash Mouth and he didn't know I was an ex player.
But we got to know each other and man, it's
great and Grant you would appreciate this because you are
a musical guy.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yourself. Now. I know Ben listens to music right only
the midnight, just a lot of music, but you would
definitely appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
And what I'm gonna ask him, and I've never asked
him this before, Like, I mean, the songwriting process, what
kind of goes into that because we always hear these
big bands and these big songs that are chart topper
is well, we don't really know what's the process of
how that comes together.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
And it's interesting that we have any more. Because the
other night when you were You're and iron, I went
with my family.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
We went to go see the new Michael Jackson movie.
Yes it's I mean, some of the critics say negative
things about it, but if you love Michael Jackson, you're
going to appreciate it. And it got to a point, man, well,
I didn't even know his nephew Jafar was actually portraying him.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
I just saw Michael.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
So it just once again, music has always been a
part of my life. And for the past few days,
I've come in, I've come in playing.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Music and.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
They listen to some of the music that I'm walking
in the studio with and it doesn't seem like the
song I'm listening to matches my skin complexion, if you
know what I mean, not average black guy, but music, man,
it transcends all all cultures. And for me, music has

(15:02):
always been a major part of my life and it's
been rather as soothing. So it's gonna be great to
talk to you great tonight and see what that process
is like.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, so that's gonna be honest. That was interested. I
didn't know if that Michael Jake, some of this one
was biopics?

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Do you never know?

Speaker 3 (15:14):
No, this one's this one for me. They may serve
with Michael Jackson biopics.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Before biopic, Yes, but I always say biopic that's the way.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
But you know, whatever you want to call it, right
the people they call it poddable water instead of potable.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
What there are people that call it pottable water instead
of potable?

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Okay, tomato, Yes, whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Old water is pottable, it's able to be putting a
potable is drinkable water?

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Well, well, what do you call that water that's in
the bathroom that's drinkable non potable. I'm not drinking bathroom water.
Dude just said, oh, water's drinkable. I'll put it o.
All water is able to be putting a pot. Not
all water is drinkable. Well, grant, if you want some water,
go in the bathroom, but in the pot. Wait, no,
a boilet, Yes, no, you just come on. Just go

(16:04):
out of the third floor and usually here's the water.
Find it works. Where's the whole building? Nope, third floors work. Okay,
there you go.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Well, within that case, you can go down to the
third floor. Gets some water.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Nick's just gonna run in there and scoop it right
out of the toilet.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, I'm saying I'm not a dog. Water and stuff.
Come on, dude, wait a minute, think about this.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
There are people who allow their dogs to drink out
of the toilet. No, wait, wait, and then the dog
licks them in the face.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Oh no, first, I know he either one of those things.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Great, come on, you've seen it well people, Oh yeah,
you know, let the dog lick them.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
In the face. I was glading. Chloe licked me the
other night. Really, yeah, I don't litter lick me. Well,
she likes me more, that must be it. See I listen, I.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Don't understand that allowing your dog to lick you in
the face. Yeah, no, especially when they've been looking themselves right, that's.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
How they show their love. That's a cast from the dog.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Well, you know what, my dog, if that's the way,
so I'm good.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
I'm good. They locked themselves and then they lit you.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
I'm not drinking my tongue out to touch the dog's tongue.
I'm just saying if I want to, if it wants
to lick my cheek, I'm gonna let it.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
No dog's been looking at his own junk and then
wants to lick your face.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
You're gonna drink toilet water, but you ain't gonna let
a dog.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
I just said you could drink out of the bathroom
if the water is off.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
That's what I said.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I don't care if I go through the Valley of
the Shadow of Death for forty years and I got
that kind of thirst, I'll drink the sand before I drink.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
That's a lie. That's a lot for death.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
I've been over the places where you're thirsty for that water.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Let me tell you what I'm not drinking.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Listening, we don't have video footage of you being in
those said places, knowing how thirsty you were, to see
whether you were drinking toilet water or not.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
But I know this.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Week your documents that I was there. Listen, you you
were there. But if you were thirsty, you're dying of thirst.
And there's a toilet that right there. You just gonna
make sure it's clean. I'm good Now, I don't blast.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
I'll find a different way. Come on, I'll start digging
at that water. I'll start digging, freaking that water I'll drink.
I'll start digging. Before I do that, you're digging your
own grain.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
I'll just start digging so I can fall over, yes,
way before I get there.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
I just want to make sure that there's nothing in
the toilet. There's no residue, there's no toilet.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Now you're trying to do etiquette for drinking toilet water.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
No, I don't drink toilet water.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
Nick Ferguson's five steps to drinking toilet.

Speaker 6 (18:30):
Was just a guy who's like his body, but he's
like toilet water. Let's make it this particular. Sinuin said
he's baking the toilet water.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Put it on. You gotta be turkey bacon. But I'll
drink that toilet water.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Broncost three night back after this, how do your firm
you take the fruit out of the that you get
you firm at the fruit.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
So you said it for a while, get yased, and
your firm at the fruit, and you let it. You know,
the juice is in my Yeah. Yes, that's the basics
of it.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
I'm not trying to get into I'm not trying to
tell people how to make toilet wine on the air.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
But but but basically, using smelly liquid that comes from
a potato.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Or fruit, you're well, you're putting it, you're putting it inside.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, I'm not gonna.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Give away all the but you're more or less on
track here.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Can't look looks like a lot a lot of toilet water,
doesn't it. It's a lot of toilet water. You drinking
toilet wine. I drinking toilet water. Drinking toilet toilet wine
because he you know, but he will toilet.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Water if I'm thirsty and I'm dying of thirsty and
I'm in it's the desert, and it pops up.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Toilet in the middle of the desert. Look on, you know,
a headless statue and then there's a toilet over here.
As you never know. You may be praying to the
heavens giving.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Me water, but you're not really specific about what type
of water toilet.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
I'm not sure that's the Heavens. I think that's the
other guy. I'm just saying either way, I am.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Not drinking incarcerated in the.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Core, just speaking of maybe not the Heavens. Broncos bringing
in a veteran quarterback for a tryout.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Nathan Peterman, Why are you laughing?

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Nathan Pieterman is throwing four touchdowns in the NFL to
thirteen interceptions.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Then he has like seven in one game.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Has a career fifty three percent completion percentage. He has
been in the league since twenty seventeen, almost ten years.
He has five starts. He went one in four in
those starts. How he managed to win a game is
beyond me. The last time that he played in a
game was twenty twenty two, a game he lost, but
he played for the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
This is not serious.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Who does Nathan Pieterman have pictures of that he is
still in the league.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Why does he have to have pictures of someone? Why
can't the Broncos saying, listen, we want to make sure
that we give each and every rookie on this offense
and defensive side of the ball an opportunity to give
us a good look to see.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
If we want to bring them back for e. J.
Warner is a rookie guy, understand it.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
But the idea is that you want to make sure
that you can run your offense. You can evaluate players
on the field. That's not to say Nathan Peter will
be one of those quarterbacks that the Broncos said, well,
we want to add him to our roster for mini
camp and OTAs. But here's what we do know. Bo
has somewhat of an ankle injury. Right, He's not going

(21:21):
to participate in this this time of the.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Year, you want to rely on this count. No, it's
not about relying on him.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
You're just bringing someone in as adequate competition just in case.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
I think he's a confidence booster for the young guys
on defense.

Speaker 7 (21:34):
Yeah, if you're wanting to practice this way, so you
bring in the ringer to throw interceptions.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Is four times higher than his touchdown percentage, that he's insane.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Let's that's not happen.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
I do recall a game where Peterman was benched at
halftime and the planning against the Chargers, and I think
to Rod Taylor was then you know, came in as.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
A start in the war to Buffalo in Buffalo.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
But once again, I mean things can change, a change
of scenery. How many look, we've seen Sam Donald have
the change of scenery, and I mean he just changed
his career.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
This guy's had five changes of scenery, none of which
you've worked out for him.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
Hey, hey, maybe need one more that game you're referencing
five interceptions in the first half his best season with Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
He went oh in to as a starter with a
fifty four percent completion percentage, one touchdown, seven picks, and
was sacked seven times and eighty one drop out.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Basically, you guys don't believe in second, third, four chances.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
I'm a big believer in second chances, not six.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Everybody deserves a second chance, nobody deserves a third.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Well, listen, I'm not saying, Okay, he's come to just
make the world of the Broncos quarterback from that much better.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
All I'm saying is that in this time when you have.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Being rookie mini camp, you want to make sure that
you can evaluate these guys and give him.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
An opportunity, right because E. J. Warner is not.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Gonna really give him an opportunity before before he came here,
he had to try out with the Kancity Chiefs and
that's why he's here now. So you want to make
sure that these all these guys, because the Broncos have
some undrafted free agent guys, like twenty of them that
they invited. You want to make sure you can see
what these guys can do because this may be the
last opportunity for some of these guys.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
We've been in the league ten years. We know what
he can't do. Well, can't he throw the ball?

Speaker 1 (23:27):
No? Come on his own team.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
If you had a career passer rating of nine, hold on,
if you had to choose between Nathan Peterman and Tim Tebow,
who's chooses.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
Tim tebowy day, No, you're not not.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Tebow.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Neither one of you guys can be serious.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Tim Tebow tim playoff games.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Tim Tebow's passer rating, he is double Nathan Peterman's.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
That's how bad Nathan Peterman is.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Grumble great, you said you said that with a straight face.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
He won a playoff game. He did want to playoff
he did.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
How did he win it with a beautiful slant pass
to Damarius Thomas.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
I'm not talking about his running defense. Hold On, hold on,
I'm not talking about his rushing.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Tim Tebow's passer rating is double Nathan Peterman's double.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
And yet, who are.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
We talking about having a try out with the Broncos,
Nathan Peterman and not Tim Tebow. Tip Tebow's the defense rest.
Tip Table's like forty years old. So what I mean
what Peterman is? What?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Thirty two? Thirty four? Maybe something like that.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
I don't know which guy's getting another opportunity Peters thirty two?

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Okay, who's getting another opportunity? Peterman? That's why I asked
who he's got pictures off? No, what are they doing
with it? Listen? If I'm not mistaken the photo guy
at the resort in Arizona.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
No, if that was the case, he would be in
New England right now. No, but Peter men spent some
time down with the Saints when Sean Payton is there.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, I know, well, no, not saying that, grand I.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Go back to what I said before. The idea is
that you want someone who's a little familiar with your
offense just to go out there, to keep it into
a flow, not not to do enough. And not a
lot of expected of Peterman to go out there and wow,
everyone says, oh you know what. Now he's in the
mix to be a backup quarterback. I had a Elleger

(25:32):
or Jarvis Siddam. No, you want someone to be able
to run the offense, to give the defense a good
look in the offensive players.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
So why not bring in a guy like Ben Denucci
who was here at the end of the year last year.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
You know, I sing what that was? He knows the offense?
How well? Did he know it well enough to get
brought back in? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:50):
But he he can throw interceptions just as much as
By the way, Yes, when Peterman was with the Saints,
it wasn't with Sean Payton.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Was not out.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
There's twenty twenty four. Is with is with Dennis Allen?
Didn't Rizzy? Okay, maybe Rizzy vels for him. I don't know, not,
I don't know. They signed him in March and then
they cut him April August second, like the first week
of training camp.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
They actually got one look at him in trading camp. Like, oh,
but here's what we know, Saints. Your bite News is
not here and neither's your Tim Tebow. The twenty twenty
four Saints were like, no, bro, we good.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
You'd rather have Nathan Peterman and this guy Spencer Rattler,
Jake Hayner, New Orleans Saints were like, now we're good
than this guy.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Denver's football first snap of overtime here tied at twenty
three Elanu scrimmage the Bronco twenty shotgun for Tim Tebow.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Sure motion is that he Royal ten playfakes in the pocket,
sets throws past pop to Mary's Thomas. I don't know
the forty five mid field. Here we go, forty thirty
five foot.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
Race, twenty fifteen ten touchdown Denver.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
It's over.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
That's all for at Denver. Well, you know what I
kind of called by the way, he did such a
great co.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
See that was was a corner and Troy Paulamlou sniffing
up towards the line of scrimmage where he wasn't supposed to.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Dude, I'sny Taylor and Troy paula Malo went out on
the field. Right now, Peterman would still throw a pick.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
If Tim Tebow had twenty opportunities to make that throw,
He's gonna make just that one. You know, I need one,
that one that's it.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Listens. Passionating is literally I literally double. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Nathan Peter, I'm not a Nathan Peterman fan, but he's
that Tim Tebow was.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Not a quarterback. Hold on, it sounds like you vouched
and it's weird that email. Why don't you Why don't
you send me? Why did you send me?

Speaker 2 (27:36):
An email earlier today from Nathan Peterman fan five at
hotmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
And why is male spilled? M A l E. I
like that song you bumped back with from Smash Mount.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Yeah, that's a that's a forgotten one from their earlier days.
And I think it's probably number three on my list
of Smash Mouse songs.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
This was interesting when it comes to music, Like when
we were growing up, we listened to music, and because
radio was a big thing at that time, you became
fan of certain artists. Yes, exactly, with the top forty absolutely, man,
you almost know that right there. Man. But my kids

(28:16):
have come to know certain songs by movies, right and
because there's so many tracks, like when you think about
you know what we see on Netflix, and a lot
of the movies that we see they show a lot
of oh play a lot of these like Stranger Things.
My kids became fans of eighties pop culture because of

(28:41):
Stranger Things. And if you were ever around my kids,
you would not know that they were born, you know,
like in the two thousands or whatever, because everything they
listened to is old school, it's eighties everything about Yes,
Because say we're in the car, something comes on. I
started singing a song, and I know the song was

(29:03):
made before they were born. They asked me, how do
you know that song?

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Well, thinking of wish, I am now going to bribe
his children to get audio and video of Nick singing
in the car.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Well you should have.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
I wish you would a referenced, says Elvis Dance when
we played that coming back from the last place.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
That would have been great to get the video, But hey,
we don't have cameras in the studio.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, so I'm trying to get a water man.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
I went, I went downstairs and got this other vending
machine as Branda to Lette tote Nick Ferguson Fair.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
You got your endorsing it right here on the label
non totable. Yes, yes, that's that new Frish brand. Yes
you can get a tarz.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Oh my goodness, we got a great guest coming up
here to Mitigrade Camp from smash Mouth going to join
us in the next segment.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Looking forward, to that.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
If you guys have any questions for him, then I
would Uh, you can get it out of the text
line five six six nine, hero four six nine. Are
you saying saying that the guy was not a quarterback?
Has a passer rating double of Nathan. I don't understand
why he's in camp. It makes us look silly.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Well, once again, the reason why you do that is Okay,
so EJ. Warner is your roocky quarterback that you're bringing
in and Peterman is the veteran quarterback. The idea is
that you need a way to properly evaluate these players. Now,
could the team have brought in other quarterbacks? Yes, we've

(30:30):
seen them do that before. What was the quarterback who
played at Notre Dame? He was here with the Broncos
in Brady Quinn. No no, no, no, no, no Brady Quinn
like like after God, Jerry Clawson. No no, no, keep going,
don't go back, go forward. I can see the guy's face,
but I can't recall his name at this moment. The

(30:51):
Broncos had him in camp last year during OTAs right,
and he was drafted in Ian Buck.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yes, well, that's because it's Sean Payton's guys, and he's
terrible too.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Either way, you needed another guy or another army camp
to throw passes.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
They just think about it.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Why do you think you invite so many guys that
to to you need.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Somebody to throw passes to the players? Like get that,
But you got Kurt Warner's kid, EJ Warner.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
What are we doing.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Wasting reps on a guy that's been in the league
a decade and can't throw an.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Interception because he's been in the league. We're not saying
Ben No one said it. I don't recall saying it that.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Well, oh yeah, they're bringing him in here because he's
going to be the team's fourth quarterback.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
No, you need a.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Veteran in the room, just to make sure the process
go well. Who was to say that EJ. Warner at
the end of the day after they finished with these
mini camps, he's not the guy invited back to possibly
be that fourth quarterback.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Dude, I would rather Kurt Warner.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
By the way, Kurt Warner said, I forget what he
was on article with Chris Thomason, our guy. He said
that he thinks that his son EJ has a better
chance of making this Broncos roster than the Chiefs roster.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, which I don't understand why.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Sean likes to keep more quarterbacks and likes that project,
and you can take it better fit.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
The better opportunity would be with Patrick Mahomes out.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Well, but Mahomes justin field. They're already booked with the Broncos.
You've got Paul and then how are we keeping Stidham?
Probably not know Alinger, do we know what he is?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
He has a chance here. And then also when you
look at Peterman and EJ. Warner, you like to lean
more on the younger side because there's a little truth
to what Ben was saying.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
You kind of know what Peterman is.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Maybe he could come in and maybe he's changed something
about his game, But you're looking to see if Ej
can grasp the system, look at the veteran, get inspired
and be a lot better.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
That's that's why you do that.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
I think it makes sense in that regard, like maybe
he can. Peterman has been in the league long enough
that he can help him try to understand and what
an NFL playbook looks like compared to a college playbook.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Absolutely, that's the only benefit. I said, maybe, but there
are a million guys you could sign for that. It
feels I can't. Okay, guys that did Sean Payne. There's
guys not did Sean Payne's work with before he could
sign to do that.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
But apparently they didn't like any of those guys. I'd
rather go get to Peterman.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
I mean, because if that's the case, I mean, they
could have called Teddy Bridgewater.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
That's what I'm saying, right, we could tell Teddy b baby,
he's been a dinverer before.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, you could have done that, but no, this gave
him a chance. I mean, you know, you're.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Probably not going to keep Peterman, but maybe he may
show something that might surprise you.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
You may go, oh, I didn't see that before.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Or he might say, hey, now you're an all star. Yes,
we'll find out about that with our X guess great
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