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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to It, Broncos Country Tonight Short Show Post Rockies edition,
(00:04):
Benjamin ol Bridnick Ferguson here with you. Appreciate everybody tuning
in as always, Nick, we are on schedule release eve.
Kind of a weird deal because the NFL this year
is really going to extreme lengths to try to squash
the schedule leaks. They're not giving media partners the schedule
till one hour before the schedule release show.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
But you know, I got me a copy.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
But you know what, man, all of this is far
fag nougan.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
That is my way of swearing without being fine because
we know how this works. That the NFL does a
great job of building everything everything they do, from draft
release to the comebine to the draft itself, the schedule release,
they always make a big hoopla about it. And I
know the idea is that we're not gonna give leaks
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only to the certain people we would like to give
leaks too. So it's gonna be interesting to see how,
you know things work out. And from a player standpoint,
I think, I always not I think, but I know
I always look to figure out where in the hell
does that buy?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Well, I will say this, they they did tell me
I can't. I don't want to get into specifically who
they is, but the powers that beat told me that
I was not allowed to release that I was not
allowed to sit there and report actual games opponents on
their days. So I'm going to dance around it a
little bit. They also didn't say I couldn't report a
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bye week.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So whether they say you could not, they.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Didn't say anything about the bye week.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
They only said I couldn't report the actual opponent on
the actual day. As far as that kind of stuff goes,
he gave you too much lee way I did. I
know the weigal room in the contract is great. So
with that said, I am told, per sources, then we
are going to have a week ten bye week, which
is just after the halfway point this year. I considered
the sweet spot right last year, you know it's week twelve.
I consider week ten week eleven like the sweet spot,
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just after halfway through the season, getting that extra time
to you know, to recomp the body and everything and
get ready for that back half stretch. Anything from week
ten to week twelve is absolutely perfect for me. But
you're a former player, what say you?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Well, I mean before the schedule came out, I was predicting,
you know, midway point, which is week eight. So with
the bye week falling on Week ten obviously gives the
Broncos an excellent opportunity to kind of assess themselves internally
little self scouting. Also look at the conference as a whole,
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because now you're still looking at seating and looking at
the division. You know, where are you're going to place.
How well are the Kansas City Chiefs and the Chargers doing,
because by that time, I'm thinking Patrick Mahomes should be back.
You're looking at the Chargers team with I mean, they
address their offensive line issues. Because I've worked with Mike
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mcdaine's in San Francisco, I know he's going to have
that offense humming with Justin Herbert. So you want to
make sure you know what those teams are doing. But
also the bigger thing is that back half of the season.
I mean, the NFL has done a great job, you know,
better than their counterparts in Adam Silver and the NBA
as far as making those late season games competitive. And
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the reason they make them competitive because they start pushing
a lot of those divisional games in the back half
of the season. So there's gonna they gotta. It's going
to play a role as far as seating within the
conference and in the vision. But also if you're one
of those fantasy football owners, you're gonna be ready and
trying to make sure that you have had the perfect
roster to kind of keep you in championship. Most so
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it's gonna be really interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I put a few things out there on Twitter. I'm
not gonna name the opponents per se because you know,
not allowed to, but I did say, if you're a
Broncos fan, you might want to get prepared for a
Black Friday away game and a Christmas home game.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
A Christmas home game. Yeah, so so you know what
that means. See, look, okay, Christmas home games mean means
as though we are going to be working on Christmas,
right yep, So we're gonna have to celebrate our Christmas
either later in the evening or the following day.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Or the day before. You could do Christmas Eve.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Oh you can't do a Christmas even.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Just trying to help your kids out right now, you can't.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
You can't do it Christmas Eve, Christmas because that's going
to change everything. Because they got to say, well, last
year so no, But you know what, as I started
looking at the schedule beforehand and looked at it myself,
I was thinking that maybe the Broncos would have a
Christmas game, but it would either be at Jacksonville or
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Versus New England or Seattle on Christmas on Christmas, and
I thought it would be on a streaming service like Peacock.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Look, I.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Can't confirm her deny, but I would say, what can
you weekend? I would say, Nick that if I were you,
I would make sure that all my bills were paid
from the Christmas season. Uh, so that you're you know,
you're on top of things. You want to truly be
on top of things. Okay, I would make sure that
all your bills were paid on Christmas Day.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Well, I want to make sure my bills are paid
on Christmas Day because if there are any games on
the streaming service, I want to make sure I have
the capabilities.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Of watching there you go, there's that, Well, you have
the capability of watching it here at home because we'll
both be there. We won't be working the games, sin
it's here at home. But you know, there is that
And if I would just you know, tell fans to
make sure that your your bills are paid.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
So it's okay, how many how many prime time games?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And you think your Broncos going to have?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Because last year they had five and the team that's
had the most, I believe has been in Kansas City,
I think it was, and last year I think they
had seven or eight for the for the team with
the most primetime games.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Well, okay, so, and I hate this because people get
pananic about it. There's a difference between primetime and standalone games. Like,
for instance, if you're the only one playing on a
Saturday or you're the only one playing on an international
game on Sunday morning, right, those don't actually count as
primetime games. Those are called stand and alone games. Primetime
games are Thursday night football, Sunday night football, mondaynight football.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So I'm gonna I'm and I don't want to be pedantic,
but people were with me last year and I got
in trouble for so like in the way that I
phrase some things.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
So I'm going to say this.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I think the Broncos are going to have a large
contingent of standalone games this year. There will be games
on Fridays, there will be games on Thursday, Sunday, Monday,
and Saturday. They will have games on all those days.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Well, i mean call them stand alone, call them primetime games,
and we play a game with semantics. But for me,
if you're the only team playing on any given day
and there are no other games playing, that's considered to
be a primetime game, right primetime you're the only one playing.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I mean, that's how I view it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
But the actual NFL, the way that they phrase that
is describe it has to do with the way they
sell them. It has to do with the way they
sell them in certain packages and all that kind of stuff.
So I'm phrasing it just so that I'm clear with them,
and so everybody's on the same page in terms of
what I'm saying. Because the Broncos will play in their
own time slots many times this.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Year, well I'm going to consider it regardless of what
the NFL bylaws and dictionary says that we have to
look at it. If you're the only team playing as
only two teams and everyone's watching.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Guess what, that's a primetime game. To me.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I agree with you. We are on the same page.
You and I are on safety.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I'm just saying it that way, so all the people
who have quibbles and semantics problems and whatever else can
take them and shove them because I don't care.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Do you.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
The Broncos are going to be playing away on Black Friday.
That means you and I, depending on how everything goes,
I don't know if that means we'll be back at
the burn Down this year or not. We still got
to wrap that contract back up, but there are you
and I would would be not having we at least
get Thanksgiving. Yeah, you know, to ourselves. We don't have to,
we don't have to share it with the lead. But
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Christmas here, we're going to be working the Christmas day man.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Christmas Day, that's gonna be tight, man, because I mean,
when you celebrate Christmas the day before you you can't
do that because that's Christmas Eve. So I guess we
celebrate it later on that evening when we arrive home. Well,
you don't have any kids, so it's just you and
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a dog, or or we celebrated on the twenty sixth.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I am celebrating on the twenty fourth because I, me
and I don't have anybody else answer.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
To see, I can't celebrate on the twenty fourth. Man,
you can't celebrate Christmas on Christmas Eve? Man, You know
how many bylaws as a parent that you actually break
that day.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Now, maybe we.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Can negotiate with the kids and say, well maybe you can.
I don't know, open one thing, right, maybe one thing.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Well that's how I used to be, Like when I
was a candidates, we would open the one president on
Christmas Eve rule. However, I'm just opening everything on Christmas
Eve this year and then getting right into Christmas. The
good news is I doubt there'll be much traffic that day.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah, very true. And here's the other thing. See, you
would normally open one gift on Christmas Eve? How about
leaning up the Christmas At a certain point in my youth,
I already knew what I had because I had already
played with it over.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Oh yeah, because you get the worst Christmas I ever had.
We had to pick out the gift. Well, I had
this cool aunt. She was like a hippie whatever, she's
cool aunt, so she always got cool stuff. So I
was like, all right, I'm gonna open her present because
it's going to be something cool. And my brothers opened
their presence and I think one of them got like
a like a transformer, and one of them got I
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can't roll with dealing it anyway, and I opened mind
and it was a beach towel, a monogram beach towel.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
She handmade some beach towels for us.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
That's different.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
That's handmade it was, but still it was a handmade
beach towel for like a twelve year old.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
That was not cool.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Well, I mean, just to look at it now, it
was just the work that went in into it, the
process of making a hand towel by hand and monogram
with your name.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Oh, now, forty five year old man, I'm appreciative of
the high that it went into that. As a twelve
year old boy, I was like, what the bleep is this?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
What am I supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
This is my Christmas Eve? President, I got a beach
towel all out of here?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yes, yes, but you have to be careful. Now I'm
wondering maybe what we can do, you know how like
on New Year's Eve, like.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
You said, you start off on the East Coast, they
start early because they're in an earlier time zone.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Maybe we could do it that way.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
They celebrate Christmas hitting midnight right on the East coast noun.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Uh yeah, I guess you could. I suppose you could
do that anyway. There are there are some things just
to kind of prep everybody for the scheduling show. Obviously
it is going to be tomorrow here on KOA. We'll
break it all down myself, you Dave Logan, Rick Lewis,
Susy Warden. I don't think I think Ryan's got something going.
I don't think he's gonna be there for that, But
everybody else, the whole gang will be there to to
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do the schedule release and everything else. And I remember
how disappointed Grant was. I can remember we were talking
about things like I don't want to have to work
on Christmas.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yes, he did say that.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Guess what Grant.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Working on Christmas?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
You know?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Really quickly?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah, you know, I went through my little own schedule
and I had some games that I figured that the
Broncos would be on. As I was trying to figure
out what prime time games that the Broncos would have. Obviously,
you know, you get the Monday night football game against
Kansas City. We don't know where this game is going
to be played. We'll figure that out tomorrow. But I
did have a Sunday night football game at Buffalo at
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a Thursday night football game at either San Francisco or
at Pittsburgh. So I'm wondering to see or whether any
of that comes to life.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
So well, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I don't want to get too deep in the weeds
and get myself in trouble on anything. But if you
were to steal a peek at my sheet here, maybe
you could see the Black Friday game. I don't know,
just Sam, and we'll leave that at that. One thing
I will say is that it's like, it's super weird
how the league has gotten about this schedule release.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Well, I got an email because I put out I
put out a couple of you know, I put out
the week ten by on Twitter, and I put out
that the Broncos should be prepared to play an away
game on Black Friday and a home game on Christmas.
And I didn't specify the opponents. That's all I put out,
just tip in my hand that I know the schedule
stuff and try to kind of give Broncos fans a
little bit something to uh. Someone replied, I got an
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email from the League office, not not from the Broncos
pat Like I've been texted, you know, text Patrick because
I take Patrick every year at this point and I'm like, dude,
I'm tipping this right now, but I'm not going to
put this out.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'll keep it sacropacked for you.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Guys so that you can have the uh, the schedule people,
the media people in their Super Bowl putting out the
release video and all that kind of stuff. Every year,
Patrick and I did the same little song and dance, right,
So yeah, it wasn't even yeah, I got it. I
got a personal email from the League office, you know,
with a cease and desist and trying to get like
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trying to like vaguely threaten me about releasing the schedule early.
And I'm like, you know, like I potentially yanking credentials.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Wait, so you mean at any point someone could run
up in here in black suits, looking like men in
blacks that'ching both of us up.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Because of something I'm not saying. I'm not saying what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
They could yank my you know, the League could could
deny my credentials, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
And now the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
You know, I have to have a League and Broncos
approval for Broncos games, right, Uh, And my passes for
on the field. There's we don't get too many of those, right,
There's two of me and Susie the only ones that
get feel passes. Right, So you know that that could
get that would be in jeopardy.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
And then on top of.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
That, you got like our trip to the Combine every year.
That's a league credential. They could deny me that they
couldn't deny me like the Super Bowl. Excuse me, they
couldn't deny me the Senior Bowl or the you're telling
me that their lead flexed on me, And I balked, wait.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
You were doing the typical Benjamin all Bright thing until
they say hold on some not right right, slow down,
pump me brakes, because it's hard to be an insider
when you're on an outside. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Well, which is funny because I had that conversation with
somebody one time. It was there was something I put
out that they did not want me to put out,
and they were threatening that whole yank my credentials as
well back and uh, And I was like, do you
think you want to put me on the outside and
you think that makes me less dangerous? Like there's things
I'll sit on out as a courtesy because I'm on
the inside, but the minute you put me on the outside,
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do you think that makes me less dangerous?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I know you are a type of person that love to
be challenged on a certain thing.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Feel free.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
There's a part of me that wanted to challenge you
based on what you just said, but I don't want to.
I don't want you to go from inside the house
to outside the house and then to the outhouse.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah's a I'm not trying to get on board that
that train. So Yeah, if you guys are wondering why,
and I know a lot of guys like because I
get the same question to Well.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
If you know the thing, why don't you tell this
is your job?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Right?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
There are some things that there are some points where
the league puts their thumb down, Like the Broncos are
pretty good about it. As a team, they're pretty good
about I've sat on a few things here there out
of respect at their request, or danced around a few
things a couple of times at their request for for
specific reasons, to avoid the you know, the team get
in trouble for something or to avoid Uh, it's some
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information they don't want out just yet. They could potentially
benefit other teams that kind of stuff. So there are
there are things like that that that I have sat
on briefly, but the Broncos are mostly fine, like they're like,
good good luck man if you because the Broncos, I'm not.
You know, there's other guys in town that are on
like the the speed dial, like, hey, we have a
press release, and then all of a sudden you see
like five people put out the same thing at the
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same time. I'm not that dude. Like if I go
get a story, I went and got it. I don't
I deliberately don't take those calls. I don't do those
emails like I hunt for my food.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
You are not on the chain email.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I mean, I I am, but I don't if I
if something like that comes to me, I don't. I
don't even bother putting it out that way. That's not
my story, that's a that's a press release.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Right. So because and and we're.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Up against it here, like forty five seconds left this thing,
I'll say, I'll put it tee this way. The somebody
from the Broncos talk to you know, my boss one time,
he's like, there's two kinds of lions out there. Right,
there's lines at the zoo that are happy just getting fed,
and that's most of the Broncos beat. And then there's
lions that like to hunt, and that's been and I
am definitely that the like I love to I love
to hunt and kill my own story and you know,
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I go from there. So you know, there's there's a
bit of a being the broadcast partner. There's there's a
bit of a relationship there that's sort of weird when
it comes to that stuff. And and that's one of
the ways that we, uh, we try to do and
abide by all that. We got to hit a break,
but we'll be back Broncos Country Night back after this.
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I'll go back to the Broncos Country Tonight, Ben but
old Bright Nick Ferguson here with you Posty's edition. If
you guys missed the last segment or we talked a
little bit about some schedule type stuff, try to give
you guys a few hints here or there.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I would you can go back.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And listen to that on what is said, Broncos Country
to Night, dot com, slash podcast or podcast, all those
other places that you catch your podcast. You can listen
to that and and get a little hint on how
the Broncos schedule before the schedule comes out, and get
at hints on on all that stuff. One story I
do want to get to here, it's it's a little
weird and maybe you can maybe you can help me.
I don't know how you feel about the Rooty Rule,
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but Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier posted his latest letter
to the NFL. He didn't include the leagues who response
to his initial letter, and it would probably be helpful
for all of us to have that. But Pro Football
Talk obtained to review the May first letter from NFL
General counsel ted YOUU loot to youth Heimer. It's a
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four page letter explains the legue's position regarding the manner
in which its diversity policies comply with Florida, Florida and
federal law, and then the letter also clarifies some of
the information contained in his initial thing. Simply put, the
NFL does not permit the consideration of race, sex, or
any other legally protected characteristic in any hiring decisions or
employment actions. Now, the Rooty Rule does not compel any
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hiring or discharged decision or direct anybody to be discriminated against.
It operates solely in the interview process, such as clubs
consider a broad set of candidates before making a hiring decision,
does not prevent a club from interviewing any candidate. I
don't know where you're at on the Rooney rule, but
I will say Florida, this Attorney general in Florida is
trying to say that the NFL and the Rooney rule
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are racist against white people.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
That is racist against white people.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Which I think is ludicrous. But to each their own.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
I guess, well, you know what, man, the conversation of
race and how was used within you know, our society,
political system in this case coaching. Man, it is definitely crazy.
And should people be high based on their merit? Once
upon a time and Vic Fangie was here, he said
that the coaching occupation is based on meritocracy. No, it's not,
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let's be totally honest, not in a lot of cases.
It's kind of who you know or better yet, who
knows you. But when you look at the numbers in
comparison to minority coaches based on others, that that number
is not equal, it's not balanced. In college football is
even worse. And you go back to like the whole situation.
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Stephen Ross Miami Dolphins, Brian Flores or Flora said that, hey,
he was fired because he didn't want to a target
of a law and they want a tour.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
And then he.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Said that they kind of allege that they offered him
money in exchange of kind of losing games. And to
know that those coach head coaching jobs, man, are very
hard to come by. And there's a lot of guys
who I know personally well within their right and have
earned the opportunity to be a head coach in this league.
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Some of those guys never get that opportunity, and it
is frustrating for those guys who have been coaching. They've
been positioning coaches on either side of the ball. And
the one true way that I know that one is
elevated to the position of being a head coach in
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this league you have to spend time on the office
side of.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
The ball almost I mean, I'm going to.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Say not almost for me, that is ninety nine point
one percent. You have to be on the office side
of the ball. And oh, by the way, you have
to be a quarterback coach, even if you don't call plays.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Ben Well, I mean you had guys like Jesse mentor
Jeff Hafley who haven't that you know, there were defensive
guys that got hired this cycle, and.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Certainly, but here's the thing they did. They're not minorities.
Oh gotcha, gotch And that's where the conversation is. Yes,
those defensive guys who got jobs, but they're not minorities.
And it's really rare that a guy comes up as
a position coach gets to.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Well, how many minorities have have that?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Like?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Almost none. I mean you're you're looking at what Jim Caldwell.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, I'm trying to well, not just Calwell, I.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Mean the enemy spent time on the offensive side of
the ball, but he couldn't buy a head coaching job
at this point. Pep Hamilton to spend time on the
offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Another guy who got the interview but never got the job.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Right, Mike McDaniel is actually technically half.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Uh you know, is half a minority.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I you know, I know people roll their eyes on
that when I he's technically his father was black, so
you know, I mean he's he's spent time on the
offensive side of the ball. If you count that one.
I'm just trying to run down the list thought which
Byron left Wich?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I mean, see see what happened to Leftwich?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
And where is he now? He was nowhere? Whoever tom
Brady nowhere.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
It was a travesty.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
I mean it was said that he was going to
be with the Buffs last season to kind of helped
him out, maybe as a consultant or quarterback coach.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And he still listed as an assistant coach. There is
he still with the Buffs?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
I don't know, Okay, I'm thinking he's just there in
a consulting capacity. But Barron Leftwich is an excellent example.
He's a guy that was on the office side of
the ball. He played quarterback, he was an officer coordinator
all I mean, oh, by the way, he was the
officer coordinator for Tom Brady when they beat the breaks
off Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl. And his loan
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opportunity came with the team that drafted him in the
Jacksonville Jaguars, and the idea was that, well they wanted
him to take I guess what was it?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Won the San Francisco forty nine ers former GM drawing
the Blanco.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, I'm too not a bulky Trent Bulkey.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yes, wanted to partner those two together, but that's not
who left which won it. The guy he was he
wanted was Wilson, who played safety in the league for
Arizona and he worked in their front office. But they
were like, no, did you take camp Bonki or you
don't get this position. After that, it was done because
here's what happens with minority coaches.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
And I know this because I've talked to some of them.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
When you're in a situation, Ben, when you get an
opportunity to interview and you decide not to interview, right,
they say, well, you know what, you didn't really want
the job.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
So some of those guys never get another opportunity.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
So for me, when I look at it, there's no
way you could say some of the guys who became
head coaches was more qualified than a guy like Birol Leftwich,
who not only played the game, but he was a
OC for a Super Bowl winning team and by far
the best quarterback that's ever laced him up in Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, and look that wasn't left which's only stint as
an offensive coordinator. Leftwich was the offensive coordinator Mike McCoy
with Arizona. When McCoy got fired, he and Steve Wilkes
took He was the offensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals
prior to that, quarterbacks coach for the Arizona Cardinal So
it's not like you didn't have experienced.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
So why does he have a job, Well, why doesn't
he have a job?
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That is a question because you look at his resume.
He was an intern in twenty sixteen, quarterbacks coach in
seventeen and eighteen with Arizona, the interm offensive coordinator in
twenty eighteen, then in twenty nineteen through twenty twenty two
he's offensive quarter of the Bucks, and then nothing until
twenty twenty five when he turns up as an assistant
coach for the CUBUS.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Look, man, I'm not saying that the league should hire
minority coaches just because they're minorities. What I'm saying or
suggesting is that this kind of balanced the scales with
the interview process because there's a lot of quality minority
coaches who normally it's been shown that they don't get
that opportunity, and we've seen it on this last high recycle.
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Some guys did not even get the interview, and usually
that's kind of protocol that through the ruining rule, you
interview someone who's a minority for the position. And there's
some coaches I know who did not even take those
interviews when and they were up for head coaching jobs
because they felt as though, guess what, They're only interviewing
me because they want me to be the token person
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in this interview process. And I'd rather stay with the
team that I'm with opposed to play that little game.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
And there were guys that would do it. There were
guys who would be token in Danny Green didn't or't
Shell did it. They knew they weren't getting jobs, but
they would go get the free steak dd you know,
take the free flight, the free steak dinner to be
the token interview and that's it. On the other hand
of it, it has the runy rule has helped, I mean,
Vance Joseph basically got the job because of a rooney
rul interview.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Because here's the thing, man, the reason why, because when
you're a head coach, those interviews don't come around that
often for minority coaches. So this is why you can't
turn it down. You might know that it's a frivolous,
you know, kind of makeshift interview. But you go through
the process. So later on in that next cycle, when
it comes around, someone can say, well he's already interviewed.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Now.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
That sounds good, but it hurts you because think about
Eric Bindemy.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
In interviewing, interviewing, interviewing.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
So much has been said, well, he hasn't gotten a job,
so he must get an interview.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Well I will. I will say this.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I talk to people that were in the room for
one of his interviews, and it was a disaster. That
doesn't mean all of them were, but I know one
of his interviews was an absolute disaster.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
But someone would take that narrative.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
And apply it to the whole I can't Yeah, I
can't speak for his other interviews. I can only speak
to one one of his earliest interviews for a head
coaching job. I think I think it was his first
one and maybe a second, and it was an abject
is I mean, like having the person describe what went
on in that interview. I understood where they were covering.
He was not prepared. That doesn't mean he's not prepared now.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
But you need those practice interviews anyway, right, That's.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Like practice right, it's not a game but practice.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
But here's the thing, right, you need someone to groom
you for that process, because when you go in with
the owner for the first time, you have no idea
what they.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Want to know.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
You may think, you know, they want to know the
ex and oh, has you come in there with the pamphlet,
you got a power point, you want a breakdown film.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
They don't know what the hell you're talking about, right, So.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
So they may say, well, that's a bad interview because
your personality.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Well, and that's the other part.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Like some of these guys, most of these owners come
from the finance world, and they have a certain demeanor
and they have a certain you know, vernacular about them.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
It's business the core, right, But we're talking.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
We talk about talking football, that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And so there are guys like, for instance, I don't
want to use a white guy here as an example
to make the point. Bruce arians couldn't buy a head
coaching John because he was a because he was.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
A gruff dude.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yes right, you know he told you how I.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Mean, yeah, I love I love Bruce. His son, Jake's
a good friend of mine. Look, but that's that's an
example using a white guy example, real quick of a
guy who just didn't connect with owners because he's just
a gruff tell you how it is, dude.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
He doesn't come from that schmoozy world.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Vic Fangio was sort of the same way. They're a crusty,
you know guyotball guys. That's what they are. But you know,
I mean, for better or worse. Now, arians had multiple
successful stints mcfangil's.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
He wasn't as successfully as a coach.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
But you get the idea, and so I think that's
a part of it. I think that there's a not
only there's a rooty rule, allow guys to sit in
front of and get some of this experience. I mean,
I think it's good to because it doesn't dictate hiring.
You don't have to hire somebody off that, but you
do have to interview two people from outside your organization.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
That happened to my monarchy.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Here's what I think.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Man is not always bias based on race, as it
often comes up. I think that there's an overall bias period.
You have agism now playing a role. You see a
lot of teams going for coordinators and coaches that are
these young upstarts because they figure, Okay, well we need
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to get a young guy to be able to interact
and have a decent conversation with our quarterback. So they
look for a lot of those guys. Because you look
on this past hiring cycle, it's not even look at color.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Let's not even look at race.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Let's just look at the age of the individuals who
were hired. So we see a lot of well experienced
coaches who've multiple years in this league. They're shut out
because we're not just talking, you know, kind of a
race thing. There's an age crisis too.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, everybody wants the young guy because they think that's
sexy or whatever, when in reality, sometimes that's not necessarily
the we've seen it.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Right, not necessarily the way to go.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
You know, in the last couple of minority hirings were
Aaron Glenn on the defense, yep, Robert Salah on the defense.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
You know, kind of kind of interesting to note that.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
See, it's funny that you tossed out Robert and ag
and then after that he just went.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I'm not like, you know,
I'm just I'm just pointing it out. I don't know,
I think it's silly and I don't know what this
Florida Attorney general is up to, but I thought it
was silly. Our old friend Tim Patrick is signing with
the New York Jets. Derek Moujie obviously very familiar with him,
the general manager of the Jets. Last season, Patrick was
with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Caught fifteen passes one hundred and
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eighty seven yards, three touchdowns. Of course, everybody knows he's
spent six with the Broncos before moving on to Jacksonville.
Only saw action in four of those years because of
the torn acl the torn achilles forced in miss twenty
two and twenty three. Played for Detroit in twenty twenty four.
You know, Tim Patrick was. It wasn't the biggest stat compiler,
but it was a great third down guy for the Broncos,
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real reliable target. And I think that that's what they're
trying to do, is get a veteran in the room.
That's got Omar Cooper who they just added. They got
Garrett Wilson at Night, Mitchell, Isaia Williams, Eran Smith, her
of Charles. They drafted Kenya Sadik is kind of that
hybrid tight end receiver. I think they just wanted a savvy,
experienced veteran in the room. And Darren Mougie very familiar
with Tim Patty Row.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
This is them Moojie move and this is him telling AG, look, man,
last year. You know, in the years before, we've had younger,
you know, other wide receivers here, some veteran wide receivers.
Here's a guy that I know. He's grinded, he's had
a tough career. He fought in claude to stay in
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his way, get his way in the league. That's something
I believe that AG can definitely respect with AG being
a Parceles guy like myself.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
And I love.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Everything about Timmy Patrick Man. He doesn't play the radio
and that what I mean by that is he's gonna play,
you know, from whistle to whistle. He's a tough player.
And I remember when Timmy went down with his injury. Man,
it was so deflating because I wanted him to have
such a great season. But I go to a couple
of years before when the Broncos had a joint practice
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with the San Francisco forty nine ers on the first day,
and I knew what the forty nine ers were going
to do because I've been there. I knew the type
of practice, the energy, the juice they were going to bring,
and that they did. And it seems as though everyone
on the Broncos team was smacked in the face except
for one person, Tim Patrick.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I agree that.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
So that's what they're trying to bring. They're trying to
bring that grit and grind to the New York City.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
And somebody that's you know, that's been around the league
and can impart to these younger guys to work ethic
you need to stay in this league.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
To me, that San Francisco practice is exactly I think
you remember when the joint practice when I came here,
that was exactly the epitome of Tim Patrick. He's got
his helmet off, he's yelling at guys, He's getting in there.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
He's getting in there, you.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Know what, because they loafed through a practice basically and
got their asses handed to him by by by the
Niners exact. And Tim was like, we aren't having this tomorrow.
He was the only one with fire there for and
then the next day they came out fired up. But
that first day it was pretty embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
That was back when when Mano Sanders was still here.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Remember what that's happening that Nick.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Mullens as soon as in that practice, Yeah yes, yeah,
alter case between yeah right, I do remember that that
was actually caught on video by a fan that that
was recording up there on the hill.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Need some of that, man, Interesting about it.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Another New York team is trying to well, I don't
know if they're going to do it or not, but
Odell Beckham Junior is trying to do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Yeah, kind of link back.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Up with Harbaugh and the New York Giants and provide
some of that veteran leadership. And I have to tell you, man,
it is so vital, so important that you have a
veteran guy who's been through it. And you know what,
you may not expect that much from from a production standpoint,
from that particular player on the field, but they can
do wonders inside a locker room, especially for a team
like the Jets that are trying to turn things around.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Man.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
So I'm looking forward to saying and I'm looking forward
to seeing, you know, Tim Patrick.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Play against his old team.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
So that's going to be interesting as the New York
Jets are seting to take on the Denver Broncos in
the twenty twenty sixth season.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Real quick here got him in a minute and a
half left.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
In this segment, New Bengals defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence wanted
number ninety seven from Shamar Stewart, who wore it last
year as a rookie, and he has got it. Stewart
told reporters this week he surrendered it for an undisclosed fee, saying, man,
he earned that, so.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
That's his number. Dex came to me and was like,
what you want for the number? I told him a
reasonable number.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
He was like, Okay, anybody ever approached Nick Ferguson about
selling them at Jersey number?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Oh no, hell no, No, I mean at that time,
no one expected to come and even.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Ask me for it. No, no, oh, okay, I give
it up anyway.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
You weren't giving it out, Okay. I was scious.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
What would have been the price point if somebody wanted
that number an undisclosed amount?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I just cared because I like whatever sport it was
and wear whatever. I never cared. I did not care
what number I wait did not matter to me in
the least, and so like if somebody wanted that. But yeah,
I've been named price Here you go.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
If someone's willing to give you money for it.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, fair enough. I'm just bag put it.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
But the cash in the bag we don't have, you know,
Uncle Sam, don't have to count this that that kind
of stuff. Yeah, no, I but I never cared about it,
but some people definitely care about it. And so that's
one of those things like I always I always want
to ask, what was your price point for, uh, for
a Jersey thing. Appreciate you guys being along for the ride.
Big Rockies win against the Pirates today. Tomorrow we've got
the schedule show you want to cut it and started
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away like five o'clock I think for that. Look forward
to seeing you all that Broughcos Country Night.
Welcome to It, Broncos Country Tonight Short Show Post Rockies edition,
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Benjamin ol Bridnick Ferguson here with you. Appreciate everybody tuning
in as always, Nick, we are on schedule release eve.
Kind of a weird deal because the NFL this year
is really going to extreme lengths to try to squash
the schedule leaks. They're not giving media partners the schedule
till one hour before the schedule release show.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
But you know, I got me a copy.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
But you know what, man, all of this is far
fag nougan.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
That is my way of swearing without being fine because
we know how this works. That the NFL does a
great job of building everything everything they do, from draft
release to the comebine to the draft itself, the schedule release,
they always make a big hoopla about it. And I
know the idea is that we're not gonna give leaks
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only to the certain people we would like to give
leaks too. So it's gonna be interesting to see how,
you know things work out. And from a player standpoint,
I think, I always not I think, but I know
I always look to figure out where in the hell
does that buy?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Well, I will say this, they they did tell me
I can't. I don't want to get into specifically who
they is, but the powers that beat told me that
I was not allowed to release that I was not
allowed to sit there and report actual games opponents on
their days. So I'm going to dance around it a
little bit. They also didn't say I couldn't report a
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bye week.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So whether they say you could not, they.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Didn't say anything about the bye week.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
They only said I couldn't report the actual opponent on
the actual day. As far as that kind of stuff goes,
he gave you too much lee way I did. I
know the weigal room in the contract is great. So
with that said, I am told, per sources, then we
are going to have a week ten bye week, which
is just after the halfway point this year. I considered
the sweet spot right last year, you know it's week twelve.
I consider week ten week eleven like the sweet spot,
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just after halfway through the season, getting that extra time
to you know, to recomp the body and everything and
get ready for that back half stretch. Anything from week
ten to week twelve is absolutely perfect for me. But
you're a former player, what say you?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Well, I mean before the schedule came out, I was predicting,
you know, midway point, which is week eight. So with
the bye week falling on Week ten obviously gives the
Broncos an excellent opportunity to kind of assess themselves internally
little self scouting. Also look at the conference as a whole,
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because now you're still looking at seating and looking at
the division. You know, where are you're going to place.
How well are the Kansas City Chiefs and the Chargers doing,
because by that time, I'm thinking Patrick Mahomes should be back.
You're looking at the Chargers team with I mean, they
address their offensive line issues. Because I've worked with Mike
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mcdaine's in San Francisco, I know he's going to have
that offense humming with Justin Herbert. So you want to
make sure you know what those teams are doing. But
also the bigger thing is that back half of the season.
I mean, the NFL has done a great job, you know,
better than their counterparts in Adam Silver and the NBA
as far as making those late season games competitive. And
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the reason they make them competitive because they start pushing
a lot of those divisional games in the back half
of the season. So there's gonna they gotta. It's going
to play a role as far as seating within the
conference and in the vision. But also if you're one
of those fantasy football owners, you're gonna be ready and
trying to make sure that you have had the perfect
roster to kind of keep you in championship. Most so
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it's gonna be really interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I put a few things out there on Twitter. I'm
not gonna name the opponents per se because you know,
not allowed to, but I did say, if you're a
Broncos fan, you might want to get prepared for a
Black Friday away game and a Christmas home game.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
A Christmas home game. Yeah, so so you know what
that means. See, look, okay, Christmas home games mean means
as though we are going to be working on Christmas,
right yep, So we're gonna have to celebrate our Christmas
either later in the evening or the following day.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Or the day before. You could do Christmas Eve.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Oh you can't do a Christmas even.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Just trying to help your kids out right now, you can't.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
You can't do it Christmas Eve, Christmas because that's going
to change everything. Because they got to say, well, last
year so no, But you know what, as I started
looking at the schedule beforehand and looked at it myself,
I was thinking that maybe the Broncos would have a
Christmas game, but it would either be at Jacksonville or
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Versus New England or Seattle on Christmas on Christmas, and
I thought it would be on a streaming service like Peacock.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Look, I.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Can't confirm her deny, but I would say, what can
you weekend? I would say, Nick that if I were you,
I would make sure that all my bills were paid
from the Christmas season. Uh, so that you're you know,
you're on top of things. You want to truly be
on top of things. Okay, I would make sure that
all your bills were paid on Christmas Day.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Well, I want to make sure my bills are paid
on Christmas Day because if there are any games on
the streaming service, I want to make sure I have
the capabilities.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Of watching there you go, there's that, Well, you have
the capability of watching it here at home because we'll
both be there. We won't be working the games, sin
it's here at home. But you know, there is that
And if I would just you know, tell fans to
make sure that your your bills are paid.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
So it's okay, how many how many prime time games?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And you think your Broncos going to have?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Because last year they had five and the team that's
had the most, I believe has been in Kansas City,
I think it was, and last year I think they
had seven or eight for the for the team with
the most primetime games.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Well, okay, so, and I hate this because people get
pananic about it. There's a difference between primetime and standalone games. Like,
for instance, if you're the only one playing on a
Saturday or you're the only one playing on an international
game on Sunday morning, right, those don't actually count as
primetime games. Those are called stand and alone games. Primetime
games are Thursday night football, Sunday night football, mondaynight football.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So I'm gonna I'm and I don't want to be pedantic,
but people were with me last year and I got
in trouble for so like in the way that I
phrase some things.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
So I'm going to say this.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I think the Broncos are going to have a large
contingent of standalone games this year. There will be games
on Fridays, there will be games on Thursday, Sunday, Monday,
and Saturday. They will have games on all those days.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Well, i mean call them stand alone, call them primetime games,
and we play a game with semantics. But for me,
if you're the only team playing on any given day
and there are no other games playing, that's considered to
be a primetime game, right primetime you're the only one playing.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I mean, that's how I view it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
But the actual NFL, the way that they phrase that
is describe it has to do with the way they
sell them. It has to do with the way they
sell them in certain packages and all that kind of stuff.
So I'm phrasing it just so that I'm clear with them,
and so everybody's on the same page in terms of
what I'm saying. Because the Broncos will play in their
own time slots many times this.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Year, well I'm going to consider it regardless of what
the NFL bylaws and dictionary says that we have to
look at it. If you're the only team playing as
only two teams and everyone's watching.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Guess what, that's a primetime game. To me.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I agree with you. We are on the same page.
You and I are on safety.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I'm just saying it that way, so all the people
who have quibbles and semantics problems and whatever else can
take them and shove them because I don't care.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Do you.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
The Broncos are going to be playing away on Black Friday.
That means you and I, depending on how everything goes,
I don't know if that means we'll be back at
the burn Down this year or not. We still got
to wrap that contract back up, but there are you
and I would would be not having we at least
get Thanksgiving. Yeah, you know, to ourselves. We don't have to,
we don't have to share it with the lead. But
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Christmas here, we're going to be working the Christmas day man.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Christmas Day, that's gonna be tight, man, because I mean,
when you celebrate Christmas the day before you you can't
do that because that's Christmas Eve. So I guess we
celebrate it later on that evening when we arrive home. Well,
you don't have any kids, so it's just you and
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a dog, or or we celebrated on the twenty sixth.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I am celebrating on the twenty fourth because I, me
and I don't have anybody else answer.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
To see, I can't celebrate on the twenty fourth. Man,
you can't celebrate Christmas on Christmas Eve? Man, You know
how many bylaws as a parent that you actually break
that day.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Now, maybe we.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Can negotiate with the kids and say, well maybe you can.
I don't know, open one thing, right, maybe one thing.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Well that's how I used to be, Like when I
was a candidates, we would open the one president on
Christmas Eve rule. However, I'm just opening everything on Christmas
Eve this year and then getting right into Christmas. The
good news is I doubt there'll be much traffic that day.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah, very true. And here's the other thing. See, you
would normally open one gift on Christmas Eve? How about
leaning up the Christmas At a certain point in my youth,
I already knew what I had because I had already
played with it over.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Oh yeah, because you get the worst Christmas I ever had.
We had to pick out the gift. Well, I had
this cool aunt. She was like a hippie whatever, she's
cool aunt, so she always got cool stuff. So I
was like, all right, I'm gonna open her present because
it's going to be something cool. And my brothers opened
their presence and I think one of them got like
a like a transformer, and one of them got I
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can't roll with dealing it anyway, and I opened mind
and it was a beach towel, a monogram beach towel.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
She handmade some beach towels for us.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
That's different.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
That's handmade it was, but still it was a handmade
beach towel for like a twelve year old.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
That was not cool.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Well, I mean, just to look at it now, it
was just the work that went in into it, the
process of making a hand towel by hand and monogram
with your name.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Oh, now, forty five year old man, I'm appreciative of
the high that it went into that. As a twelve
year old boy, I was like, what the bleep is this?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
What am I supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
This is my Christmas Eve? President, I got a beach
towel all out of here?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yes, yes, but you have to be careful. Now I'm
wondering maybe what we can do, you know how like
on New Year's Eve, like.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
You said, you start off on the East Coast, they
start early because they're in an earlier time zone.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Maybe we could do it that way.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
They celebrate Christmas hitting midnight right on the East coast noun.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Uh yeah, I guess you could. I suppose you could
do that anyway. There are there are some things just
to kind of prep everybody for the scheduling show. Obviously
it is going to be tomorrow here on KOA. We'll
break it all down myself, you Dave Logan, Rick Lewis,
Susy Warden. I don't think I think Ryan's got something going.
I don't think he's gonna be there for that, But
everybody else, the whole gang will be there to to
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do the schedule release and everything else. And I remember
how disappointed Grant was. I can remember we were talking
about things like I don't want to have to work
on Christmas.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yes, he did say that.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Guess what Grant.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Working on Christmas?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
You know?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Really quickly?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah, you know, I went through my little own schedule
and I had some games that I figured that the
Broncos would be on. As I was trying to figure
out what prime time games that the Broncos would have. Obviously,
you know, you get the Monday night football game against
Kansas City. We don't know where this game is going
to be played. We'll figure that out tomorrow. But I
did have a Sunday night football game at Buffalo at
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a Thursday night football game at either San Francisco or
at Pittsburgh. So I'm wondering to see or whether any
of that comes to life.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
So well, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I don't want to get too deep in the weeds
and get myself in trouble on anything. But if you
were to steal a peek at my sheet here, maybe
you could see the Black Friday game. I don't know,
just Sam, and we'll leave that at that. One thing
I will say is that it's like, it's super weird
how the league has gotten about this schedule release.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Well, I got an email because I put out I
put out a couple of you know, I put out
the week ten by on Twitter, and I put out
that the Broncos should be prepared to play an away
game on Black Friday and a home game on Christmas.
And I didn't specify the opponents. That's all I put out,
just tip in my hand that I know the schedule
stuff and try to kind of give Broncos fans a
little bit something to uh. Someone replied, I got an
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email from the League office, not not from the Broncos
pat Like I've been texted, you know, text Patrick because
I take Patrick every year at this point and I'm like, dude,
I'm tipping this right now, but I'm not going to
put this out.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'll keep it sacropacked for you.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Guys so that you can have the uh, the schedule people,
the media people in their Super Bowl putting out the
release video and all that kind of stuff. Every year,
Patrick and I did the same little song and dance, right,
So yeah, it wasn't even yeah, I got it. I
got a personal email from the League office, you know,
with a cease and desist and trying to get like
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trying to like vaguely threaten me about releasing the schedule early.
And I'm like, you know, like I potentially yanking credentials.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Wait, so you mean at any point someone could run
up in here in black suits, looking like men in
blacks that'ching both of us up.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Because of something I'm not saying. I'm not saying what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
They could yank my you know, the League could could
deny my credentials, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
And now the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
You know, I have to have a League and Broncos
approval for Broncos games, right, Uh, And my passes for
on the field. There's we don't get too many of those, right,
There's two of me and Susie the only ones that
get feel passes. Right, So you know that that could
get that would be in jeopardy.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
And then on top of.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
That, you got like our trip to the Combine every year.
That's a league credential. They could deny me that they
couldn't deny me like the Super Bowl. Excuse me, they
couldn't deny me the Senior Bowl or the you're telling
me that their lead flexed on me, And I balked, wait.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
You were doing the typical Benjamin all Bright thing until
they say hold on some not right right, slow down,
pump me brakes, because it's hard to be an insider
when you're on an outside. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Well, which is funny because I had that conversation with
somebody one time. It was there was something I put
out that they did not want me to put out,
and they were threatening that whole yank my credentials as
well back and uh, And I was like, do you
think you want to put me on the outside and
you think that makes me less dangerous? Like there's things
I'll sit on out as a courtesy because I'm on
the inside, but the minute you put me on the outside,
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do you think that makes me less dangerous?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I know you are a type of person that love to
be challenged on a certain thing.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Feel free.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
There's a part of me that wanted to challenge you
based on what you just said, but I don't want to.
I don't want you to go from inside the house
to outside the house and then to the outhouse.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah's a I'm not trying to get on board that
that train. So Yeah, if you guys are wondering why,
and I know a lot of guys like because I
get the same question to Well.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
If you know the thing, why don't you tell this
is your job?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Right?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
There are some things that there are some points where
the league puts their thumb down, Like the Broncos are
pretty good about it. As a team, they're pretty good
about I've sat on a few things here there out
of respect at their request, or danced around a few
things a couple of times at their request for for
specific reasons, to avoid the you know, the team get
in trouble for something or to avoid Uh, it's some
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information they don't want out just yet. They could potentially
benefit other teams that kind of stuff. So there are
there are things like that that that I have sat
on briefly, but the Broncos are mostly fine, like they're like,
good good luck man if you because the Broncos, I'm not.
You know, there's other guys in town that are on
like the the speed dial, like, hey, we have a
press release, and then all of a sudden you see
like five people put out the same thing at the
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same time. I'm not that dude. Like if I go
get a story, I went and got it. I don't
I deliberately don't take those calls. I don't do those
emails like I hunt for my food.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
You are not on the chain email.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I mean, I I am, but I don't if I
if something like that comes to me, I don't. I
don't even bother putting it out that way. That's not
my story, that's a that's a press release.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Right. So because and and we're.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Up against it here, like forty five seconds left this thing,
I'll say, I'll put it tee this way. The somebody
from the Broncos talk to you know, my boss one time,
he's like, there's two kinds of lions out there. Right,
there's lines at the zoo that are happy just getting fed,
and that's most of the Broncos beat. And then there's
lions that like to hunt, and that's been and I
am definitely that the like I love to I love
to hunt and kill my own story and you know,
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I go from there. So you know, there's there's a
bit of a being the broadcast partner. There's there's a
bit of a relationship there that's sort of weird when
it comes to that stuff. And and that's one of
the ways that we, uh, we try to do and
abide by all that. We got to hit a break,
but we'll be back Broncos Country Night back after this.
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I'll go back to the Broncos Country Tonight, Ben but
old Bright Nick Ferguson here with you Posty's edition. If
you guys missed the last segment or we talked a
little bit about some schedule type stuff, try to give
you guys a few hints here or there.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I would you can go back.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And listen to that on what is said, Broncos Country
to Night, dot com, slash podcast or podcast, all those
other places that you catch your podcast. You can listen
to that and and get a little hint on how
the Broncos schedule before the schedule comes out, and get
at hints on on all that stuff. One story I
do want to get to here, it's it's a little
weird and maybe you can maybe you can help me.
I don't know how you feel about the Rooty Rule,
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but Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier posted his latest letter
to the NFL. He didn't include the leagues who response
to his initial letter, and it would probably be helpful
for all of us to have that. But Pro Football
Talk obtained to review the May first letter from NFL
General counsel ted YOUU loot to youth Heimer. It's a
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four page letter explains the legue's position regarding the manner
in which its diversity policies comply with Florida, Florida and
federal law, and then the letter also clarifies some of
the information contained in his initial thing. Simply put, the
NFL does not permit the consideration of race, sex, or
any other legally protected characteristic in any hiring decisions or
employment actions. Now, the Rooty Rule does not compel any
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hiring or discharged decision or direct anybody to be discriminated against.
It operates solely in the interview process, such as clubs
consider a broad set of candidates before making a hiring decision,
does not prevent a club from interviewing any candidate. I
don't know where you're at on the Rooney rule, but
I will say Florida, this Attorney general in Florida is
trying to say that the NFL and the Rooney rule
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are racist against white people.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
That is racist against white people.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Which I think is ludicrous. But to each their own.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
I guess, well, you know what, man, the conversation of
race and how was used within you know, our society,
political system in this case coaching. Man, it is definitely crazy.
And should people be high based on their merit? Once
upon a time and Vic Fangie was here, he said
that the coaching occupation is based on meritocracy. No, it's not,
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let's be totally honest, not in a lot of cases.
It's kind of who you know or better yet, who
knows you. But when you look at the numbers in
comparison to minority coaches based on others, that that number
is not equal, it's not balanced. In college football is
even worse. And you go back to like the whole situation.
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Stephen Ross Miami Dolphins, Brian Flores or Flora said that, hey,
he was fired because he didn't want to a target
of a law and they want a tour.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
And then he.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Said that they kind of allege that they offered him
money in exchange of kind of losing games. And to
know that those coach head coaching jobs, man, are very
hard to come by. And there's a lot of guys
who I know personally well within their right and have
earned the opportunity to be a head coach in this league.
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Some of those guys never get that opportunity, and it
is frustrating for those guys who have been coaching. They've
been positioning coaches on either side of the ball. And
the one true way that I know that one is
elevated to the position of being a head coach in
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this league you have to spend time on the office
side of.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
The ball almost I mean, I'm going to.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Say not almost for me, that is ninety nine point
one percent. You have to be on the office side
of the ball. And oh, by the way, you have
to be a quarterback coach, even if you don't call plays.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Ben Well, I mean you had guys like Jesse mentor
Jeff Hafley who haven't that you know, there were defensive
guys that got hired this cycle, and.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Certainly, but here's the thing they did. They're not minorities.
Oh gotcha, gotch And that's where the conversation is. Yes,
those defensive guys who got jobs, but they're not minorities.
And it's really rare that a guy comes up as
a position coach gets to.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Well, how many minorities have have that?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Like?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Almost none. I mean you're you're looking at what Jim Caldwell.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, I'm trying to well, not just Calwell, I.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Mean the enemy spent time on the offensive side of
the ball, but he couldn't buy a head coaching job
at this point. Pep Hamilton to spend time on the
offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Another guy who got the interview but never got the job.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Right, Mike McDaniel is actually technically half.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Uh you know, is half a minority.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I you know, I know people roll their eyes on
that when I he's technically his father was black, so
you know, I mean he's he's spent time on the
offensive side of the ball. If you count that one.
I'm just trying to run down the list thought which
Byron left Wich?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I mean, see see what happened to Leftwich?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
And where is he now? He was nowhere? Whoever tom
Brady nowhere.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
It was a travesty.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
I mean it was said that he was going to
be with the Buffs last season to kind of helped
him out, maybe as a consultant or quarterback coach.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And he still listed as an assistant coach. There is
he still with the Buffs?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
I don't know, Okay, I'm thinking he's just there in
a consulting capacity. But Barron Leftwich is an excellent example.
He's a guy that was on the office side of
the ball. He played quarterback, he was an officer coordinator
all I mean, oh, by the way, he was the
officer coordinator for Tom Brady when they beat the breaks
off Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl. And his loan
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opportunity came with the team that drafted him in the
Jacksonville Jaguars, and the idea was that, well they wanted
him to take I guess what was it?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Won the San Francisco forty nine ers former GM drawing
the Blanco.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, I'm too not a bulky Trent Bulkey.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yes, wanted to partner those two together, but that's not
who left which won it. The guy he was he
wanted was Wilson, who played safety in the league for
Arizona and he worked in their front office. But they
were like, no, did you take camp Bonki or you
don't get this position. After that, it was done because
here's what happens with minority coaches.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
And I know this because I've talked to some of them.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
When you're in a situation, Ben, when you get an
opportunity to interview and you decide not to interview, right,
they say, well, you know what, you didn't really want
the job.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
So some of those guys never get another opportunity.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
So for me, when I look at it, there's no
way you could say some of the guys who became
head coaches was more qualified than a guy like Birol Leftwich,
who not only played the game, but he was a
OC for a Super Bowl winning team and by far
the best quarterback that's ever laced him up in Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, and look that wasn't left which's only stint as
an offensive coordinator. Leftwich was the offensive coordinator Mike McCoy
with Arizona. When McCoy got fired, he and Steve Wilkes
took He was the offensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals
prior to that, quarterbacks coach for the Arizona Cardinal So
it's not like you didn't have experienced.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
So why does he have a job, Well, why doesn't
he have a job?
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That is a question because you look at his resume.
He was an intern in twenty sixteen, quarterbacks coach in
seventeen and eighteen with Arizona, the interm offensive coordinator in
twenty eighteen, then in twenty nineteen through twenty twenty two
he's offensive quarter of the Bucks, and then nothing until
twenty twenty five when he turns up as an assistant
coach for the CUBUS.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Look, man, I'm not saying that the league should hire
minority coaches just because they're minorities. What I'm saying or
suggesting is that this kind of balanced the scales with
the interview process because there's a lot of quality minority
coaches who normally it's been shown that they don't get
that opportunity, and we've seen it on this last high recycle.
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Some guys did not even get the interview, and usually
that's kind of protocol that through the ruining rule, you
interview someone who's a minority for the position. And there's
some coaches I know who did not even take those
interviews when and they were up for head coaching jobs
because they felt as though, guess what, They're only interviewing
me because they want me to be the token person
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in this interview process. And I'd rather stay with the
team that I'm with opposed to play that little game.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
And there were guys that would do it. There were
guys who would be token in Danny Green didn't or't
Shell did it. They knew they weren't getting jobs, but
they would go get the free steak dd you know,
take the free flight, the free steak dinner to be
the token interview and that's it. On the other hand
of it, it has the runy rule has helped, I mean,
Vance Joseph basically got the job because of a rooney
rul interview.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Because here's the thing, man, the reason why, because when
you're a head coach, those interviews don't come around that
often for minority coaches. So this is why you can't
turn it down. You might know that it's a frivolous,
you know, kind of makeshift interview. But you go through
the process. So later on in that next cycle, when
it comes around, someone can say, well he's already interviewed.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Now.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
That sounds good, but it hurts you because think about
Eric Bindemy.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
In interviewing, interviewing, interviewing.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
So much has been said, well, he hasn't gotten a job,
so he must get an interview.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Well I will. I will say this.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I talk to people that were in the room for
one of his interviews, and it was a disaster. That
doesn't mean all of them were, but I know one
of his interviews was an absolute disaster.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
But someone would take that narrative.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
And apply it to the whole I can't Yeah, I
can't speak for his other interviews. I can only speak
to one one of his earliest interviews for a head
coaching job. I think I think it was his first
one and maybe a second, and it was an abject
is I mean, like having the person describe what went
on in that interview. I understood where they were covering.
He was not prepared. That doesn't mean he's not prepared now.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
But you need those practice interviews anyway, right, That's.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Like practice right, it's not a game but practice.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
But here's the thing, right, you need someone to groom
you for that process, because when you go in with
the owner for the first time, you have no idea
what they.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Want to know.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
You may think, you know, they want to know the
ex and oh, has you come in there with the pamphlet,
you got a power point, you want a breakdown film.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
They don't know what the hell you're talking about, right, So.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
So they may say, well, that's a bad interview because
your personality.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Well, and that's the other part.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Like some of these guys, most of these owners come
from the finance world, and they have a certain demeanor
and they have a certain you know, vernacular about them.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
It's business the core, right, But we're talking.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
We talk about talking football, that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And so there are guys like, for instance, I don't
want to use a white guy here as an example
to make the point. Bruce arians couldn't buy a head
coaching John because he was a because he was.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
A gruff dude.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yes right, you know he told you how I.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Mean, yeah, I love I love Bruce. His son, Jake's
a good friend of mine. Look, but that's that's an
example using a white guy example, real quick of a
guy who just didn't connect with owners because he's just
a gruff tell you how it is, dude.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
He doesn't come from that schmoozy world.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Vic Fangio was sort of the same way. They're a crusty,
you know guyotball guys. That's what they are. But you know,
I mean, for better or worse. Now, arians had multiple
successful stints mcfangil's.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
He wasn't as successfully as a coach.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
But you get the idea, and so I think that's
a part of it. I think that there's a not
only there's a rooty rule, allow guys to sit in
front of and get some of this experience. I mean,
I think it's good to because it doesn't dictate hiring.
You don't have to hire somebody off that, but you
do have to interview two people from outside your organization.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
That happened to my monarchy.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Here's what I think.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Man is not always bias based on race, as it
often comes up. I think that there's an overall bias period.
You have agism now playing a role. You see a
lot of teams going for coordinators and coaches that are
these young upstarts because they figure, Okay, well we need
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to get a young guy to be able to interact
and have a decent conversation with our quarterback. So they
look for a lot of those guys. Because you look
on this past hiring cycle, it's not even look at color.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Let's not even look at race.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Let's just look at the age of the individuals who
were hired. So we see a lot of well experienced
coaches who've multiple years in this league. They're shut out
because we're not just talking, you know, kind of a
race thing. There's an age crisis too.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, everybody wants the young guy because they think that's
sexy or whatever, when in reality, sometimes that's not necessarily
the we've seen it.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Right, not necessarily the way to go.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
You know, in the last couple of minority hirings were
Aaron Glenn on the defense, yep, Robert Salah on the defense.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
You know, kind of kind of interesting to note that.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
See, it's funny that you tossed out Robert and ag
and then after that he just went.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I'm not like, you know,
I'm just I'm just pointing it out. I don't know,
I think it's silly and I don't know what this
Florida Attorney general is up to, but I thought it
was silly. Our old friend Tim Patrick is signing with
the New York Jets. Derek Moujie obviously very familiar with him,
the general manager of the Jets. Last season, Patrick was
with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Caught fifteen passes one hundred and
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eighty seven yards, three touchdowns. Of course, everybody knows he's
spent six with the Broncos before moving on to Jacksonville.
Only saw action in four of those years because of
the torn acl the torn achilles forced in miss twenty
two and twenty three. Played for Detroit in twenty twenty four.
You know, Tim Patrick was. It wasn't the biggest stat compiler,
but it was a great third down guy for the Broncos,
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real reliable target. And I think that that's what they're
trying to do, is get a veteran in the room.
That's got Omar Cooper who they just added. They got
Garrett Wilson at Night, Mitchell, Isaia Williams, Eran Smith, her
of Charles. They drafted Kenya Sadik is kind of that
hybrid tight end receiver. I think they just wanted a savvy,
experienced veteran in the room. And Darren Mougie very familiar
with Tim Patty Row.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
This is them Moojie move and this is him telling AG, look, man,
last year. You know, in the years before, we've had younger,
you know, other wide receivers here, some veteran wide receivers.
Here's a guy that I know. He's grinded, he's had
a tough career. He fought in claude to stay in
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his way, get his way in the league. That's something
I believe that AG can definitely respect with AG being
a Parceles guy like myself.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
And I love.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Everything about Timmy Patrick Man. He doesn't play the radio
and that what I mean by that is he's gonna play,
you know, from whistle to whistle. He's a tough player.
And I remember when Timmy went down with his injury. Man,
it was so deflating because I wanted him to have
such a great season. But I go to a couple
of years before when the Broncos had a joint practice
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with the San Francisco forty nine ers on the first day,
and I knew what the forty nine ers were going
to do because I've been there. I knew the type
of practice, the energy, the juice they were going to bring,
and that they did. And it seems as though everyone
on the Broncos team was smacked in the face except
for one person, Tim Patrick.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I agree that.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
So that's what they're trying to bring. They're trying to
bring that grit and grind to the New York City.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
And somebody that's you know, that's been around the league
and can impart to these younger guys to work ethic
you need to stay in this league.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
To me, that San Francisco practice is exactly I think
you remember when the joint practice when I came here,
that was exactly the epitome of Tim Patrick. He's got
his helmet off, he's yelling at guys, He's getting in there.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
He's getting in there, you.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Know what, because they loafed through a practice basically and
got their asses handed to him by by by the
Niners exact. And Tim was like, we aren't having this tomorrow.
He was the only one with fire there for and
then the next day they came out fired up. But
that first day it was pretty embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
That was back when when Mano Sanders was still here.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Remember what that's happening that Nick.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Mullens as soon as in that practice, Yeah yes, yeah,
alter case between yeah right, I do remember that that
was actually caught on video by a fan that that
was recording up there on the hill.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Need some of that, man, Interesting about it.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Another New York team is trying to well, I don't
know if they're going to do it or not, but
Odell Beckham Junior is trying to do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Yeah, kind of link back.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Up with Harbaugh and the New York Giants and provide
some of that veteran leadership. And I have to tell you, man,
it is so vital, so important that you have a
veteran guy who's been through it. And you know what,
you may not expect that much from from a production standpoint,
from that particular player on the field, but they can
do wonders inside a locker room, especially for a team
like the Jets that are trying to turn things around.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Man.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
So I'm looking forward to saying and I'm looking forward
to seeing, you know, Tim Patrick.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Play against his old team.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
So that's going to be interesting as the New York
Jets are seting to take on the Denver Broncos in
the twenty twenty sixth season.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Real quick here got him in a minute and a
half left.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
In this segment, New Bengals defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence wanted
number ninety seven from Shamar Stewart, who wore it last
year as a rookie, and he has got it. Stewart
told reporters this week he surrendered it for an undisclosed fee, saying, man,
he earned that, so.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
That's his number. Dex came to me and was like,
what you want for the number? I told him a
reasonable number.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
He was like, Okay, anybody ever approached Nick Ferguson about
selling them at Jersey number?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Oh no, hell no, No, I mean at that time,
no one expected to come and even.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Ask me for it. No, no, oh, okay, I give
it up anyway.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
You weren't giving it out, Okay. I was scious.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
What would have been the price point if somebody wanted
that number an undisclosed amount?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I just cared because I like whatever sport it was
and wear whatever. I never cared. I did not care
what number I wait did not matter to me in
the least, and so like if somebody wanted that. But yeah,
I've been named price Here you go.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
If someone's willing to give you money for it.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, fair enough. I'm just bag put it.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
But the cash in the bag we don't have, you know,
Uncle Sam, don't have to count this that that kind
of stuff. Yeah, no, I but I never cared about it,
but some people definitely care about it. And so that's
one of those things like I always I always want
to ask, what was your price point for, uh, for
a Jersey thing. Appreciate you guys being along for the ride.
Big Rockies win against the Pirates today. Tomorrow we've got
the schedule show you want to cut it and started
(34:41):
away like five o'clock I think for that. Look forward
to seeing you all that Broughcos Country Night.
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