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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There by the glass taking you all the we up
(00:01):
to World Cup action here at the bottom of the hour,
United States taking on Turkey and the United States.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Is what what'd you say? Grant nine lineup changes for
the game?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Nine changes to the starting lineup in a game that
doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah, I mean so they're very obviously uh phoning in.
We'll see maybe the backups. But I have a feeling
I'm gonna be right for show me the money side
coast Zack Seers jumping here in studio to do a
little NFL six pack.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
It's time for the NFL six pack.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm going to insight and insight information you can't find
anywhere else.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
The top six NFL headline.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
What I gotta say quick before the headlines.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
You got to be the only American fading the USA
right now. You haven't yet to pick them and show
me the money.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, and if Australia hadn't owned gold themselves, might have
had a shot with them still a lost still well,
I didn't need them, no way.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I just needed to cover.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
According to the athletics Nate Adkins, not to be confused
with the Broncos tight end Ty Simpson, has failed to
separate from Stetson Bennett in the Rams quarterback two competition.
Atkins is also reporting that there's now significant concern inside
the Rams facility about their backup quarterback situation with Jimmy Garoppolo,
last year's backup now retired.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
What do you make of this report?
Speaker 5 (01:22):
And will the ty Simpson selection live an infamy if
the Rams fail to win a super Bowl in this
all in season.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Okay, here's here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Number one here, they haven't had a practice for them
to separate yet. I mean, you've had like a couple
of days OTAs or whatever, which is fair. They haven't
had a practice to separate, so I think that is
a bit premature. I don't know Nate Atkins, not Adkins,
you know, I don't know him.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I don't you know.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
He works the athletics, so ostensibly a good reporter, but
I don't know him. This is not exactly what I've
heard coming out of LA on this. I would pump
the brakes on this until we've at least seen a
couple of practices before we can maybe make this determination.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And then that's a fair point. I will say.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
If the they might not have a lot of practices.
But they are doing installs, they are doing meetings with
all the coaches, and if inside that facility they're starting
to maybe have a little buyer's remorse already, they'd be
a little concerned.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
The other thing I would say is, how do you
have buyer's remorse on somebody you knew was a project quarterback?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
But is he is the thing? He's an incredibly old
draft pick. He's not super traits. He he's I don't
know what you're getting really excited for with like the
long vision.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I mean, all I know is this was definitely somebody
that was not going to be ready day one.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
You knew that coming in.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
That feels better, but whatever, who knows this could be
Maybe this is a red.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Airing thrown but maybe there really is a quandary.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I stets Embednett as your backup, though, yes, I would
be worried about that.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
That'd be terrifying.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Two this week, the NFL announced that they wouldn't be
holding a supplemental draft, which prevents Brendan's Soresby from entering
the league until the twenty twenty seven NFL Draft at
the earlier What do you make of this move by
the league and do you think this decision is fair
to Soorsby.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I don't think that whether it's fairer to him or
not factors in. What I will say is that Soorsby
lied to the league, and the league does not look
kindly on that. He still has potential criminal charges hanging
over his head for money laundering, a wire fraud. He
hasn't shown to me the least bit of remorse about
(03:27):
any of this and has been playing the victim of
a situation that he himself created. You don't get to
go to gambling rehab whatever the hell that is, for
a couple of weeks, and then claim you're miraculously cured
from you having placed bets and.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
He does a severe gambling addiction tens of thousands.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
And then the worst part about this is, you know,
I mean he was placing bets on unders on his
own team. That is the That's that's it. That's the
cardinal rule.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
If you're going to gamble, you know there's there's several
lines to cross. The final line is betting against your guys.
And that's what he did when he was at Cincinnati.
He bet against his own guys. He bet the unders
on thing he can't do that.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
The only way it could have been worse is if
he played and he was still the backup quarterback.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
He's an injury.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Way he could have entered the games any of those
that any of those ones where he had placed a bet,
and he just was, I guess, fortunate enough to not
make his situation even worse than it already is.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, he did some impatient rehab for gambling addictions.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
This is the biggest joke I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Texas Tech tried to scramble to get him too play
and then finally realized him that they were up against it,
that nobody was siding with the mirror.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
He didn't murder anybody, though, there.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I mean, there is that, There is that, But you know,
end of the day, the letter, the league said, the letter,
they said that the league didn't have enough time to
review his case before deciding. The deadline was obviously Monday,
and he said his petition in last week. But I mean,
the NFL is not required to have one. They certainly
don't have to be fair to Brendon Sorsby. He's not
(04:57):
a you know, and then there the Soorsby, he immediately
litigious goes to suing his potential former employer. And I'm
gonna tell you, ask anybody who's ever sued the league.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
It's not gone well.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Last Mo Clarette, Ask Colin Kaepernick, Ask anybody who sues
the league and unknow, Well, he's not covered under the CBA.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
He's not a member exactly the NFL PA.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
The lawyer said, we're going to talk to the NFL PA,
the NFL Players Association.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So you're not an NFL player, right, And so that's
that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I don't if I'm Brendan Soorsby, your entire strategy has
been incorrect this entire time. Stop what you're doing, Start
showing some remorse, Start taking accountability for your own actions,
put yourself in front of kids and talk about the
dangers of gambling it kind of stuff. Your pr strategy
right now is entirely wrong, and you're not.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Going to win. What do you think he does in
this year off?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Is it just going to be like training for the
draft kind of like we saw during the COVID season
with guys like Micah Parsons and Jamar Chase Or could
he do a lower level league? I guess baootball the
Blaze best bet as to train not to put in
any bad tape anywhere and go from there.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
That's your best bet. I talked to people about it.
They're like, yeah, I mean, you know, the ufl any
that kind of stuff, But don't juco ball whatever. Don't
just go train, show everybody you can keep your nose clean.
Quit Sue and everybody, and then turn around and come
into the twenty twenty seven draft.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Gambling problem caller takes one eight hundred gambler three.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Yesterday, the D one Cabinet approved a new eligibility rule
that will now give college players a hard five years
to play five seasons. That year timer will start either
when the player begins a full academic year, when they're
on campus, or when they turn nineteen, whichever comes first.
Do you like this ruling by the NCAA and do
(06:43):
you think it even matters considering they couldn't enforce the
gambling rules against Brendan.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Soarsby Exactly, I don't think it matters. They can't enforce it,
and who cares. It's stupid.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
This harms people who are latter day saints.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
That want to do a two year mission because you know,
they want to get those two years and the clock
starts before they get there, as harms people who go
serve in the military or you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
For a couple of years before going to college.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
It's it's stupid. It doesn't solve anything. This has yet
another rule that doesn't solve anything. I don't even know
what they're doing here. This is dumb in a litany
of dumb. This is more dumb on top of it.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I feel like they're just trying to grab any semblance
of power they can. The Soresby one was a huge
red flag to me about the NCAAA where Man and
Texas Tech kind of bailed them out. But that was
Texas Tech doing on This alid not anything to do
with the NCAAA institution. If they can't enforce, like you said,
the cardinal rule, I don't know what good they even are.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It seems like it's just for show.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
The NCAA has been largely a toothless organization whose entire
power has been permitated by the image that it has power.
As soon as anybody flaunts it and we see what
happens they back down or see give some meaningless slap
on the wrist or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
We need a real rule.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Enforcing institution to take abolish the NCAA and come up
with something that works that can hold people accountable, hold
institutions accountable when they make mistakes, and not these laughable
slap on the risk things to to the to the
high end while punishing, you know, arbitrarily the mid and
lower end schools for big news breaking.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Last night, Lions started starting Cornerback and PS two's podcast
co host Terry On. Arnold was arrested last night in
connection to an alleged armed robbery and kidnapping. Life in
prison is on the table in terms of sentencing assuming
he misses a significant amount of time this season. Can
the Lions still challenge for an NFC North title? And
(08:42):
do you think they can return to contender status without Arnold?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I don't think he factors in as that go, And
be honest with you, he wasn't that great a corner
for him previously. As far as the rest of the
as far as the rest of this stuff, if you've
caught up with a.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Story, it looks pretty bad for Arnold.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Baby evidence seems standing. They've they've got I guess, group
chat messages and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, it's just ridiculous. Hey, he was on FaceTime orchestrating
this whole thing.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
What an idiot? Just just have insurance and use the
insurance to pay everything off.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
What do you do with chase it after people who
the cops already cleared in the investigation saying it wasn't them.
I didn't even know what to do. This thing is
mind blowing how stupid it was.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
And two hundred and fifty thousand dollars obviously a lot
of money, but for him on even a rookie deal
where you're making three four million a year, like, yes,
it hurts, but blowing up your whole life and career
over this situation, which it does seem like that could
be the ultimate.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I mean, he could get life off of this.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
This is even if he doesn't like five years you're
a cornerback.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
That's done. Yeah, you're done.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
The money's gone and you're not getting the second contract
and life changing money and all that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Dude, get insurance on these kinds of things. Be done
with that. Move on.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
What do you think about the Lion's prospects?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
So this year and a crowded FC North with the
Packers and the Bears, like, do you think they can
get back to the top and make a run as
a contender.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Well, I think it's interesting because with Ben Johnson gone,
now you're you know, and and then you had John
Morton that was a disaster and now you get what's
his face. We'll see, We'll see how that goes. I
think as the offense goes, the rest of the team
will go. That that team is I think Dan Campbell
has instilled a better culture than what he found that
team with.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I'm still not sure.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
The Lions are where they want to be, and you
got a crowded division there.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
You got to come up with w's pretty quick.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Yeah, I think it's going to come down to, like
you said, the offense, and it's you went from a
great offensive coordinator with Ben Johnson to a really, really
bad one with Morton who got fired halfway through the season.
I think Petsing's hopefully a return to the middle, but
we'll see. I think where he falls on that spectrum
will really determine their season.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah. Five that in the line.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
They built their whole identity on that, and it's it's
really deteriorated.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, especially the interior. Yep.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
As he remains a free agent, DeAndre Hopkins told the
media this week that he doesn't want to force a signing,
but he does hope to ideally sign with a contender
at some point this season. Are you surprised that Hopkins
hasn't been signed yet? And do you think we've seen
the last of Nuke in the NFL?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
No, I think somebody to take a shot at him
and his better experience. You know, he might have any
contract left to him. Him talking about being choosy like
that's fair, but also the league is, you know, the
options for him are fairly limited, especially if you want
a contender, because I'm sure Miami would offer him you know, yeah,
(11:32):
nothing right now, but if you want a contender, and
those are going to be few and far between. And
so I don't think he's done, but I do believe
that he could push himself into a position where he
does get anything that.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Makes sense to his own market.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Yes, I think it will be really limited until some
training camp injury. Something happens every year, some team gets
the you know, bad draws the short straw, and we'll
see the Hopkins then, I think is a good pivot, trusty,
reliable veteran. You can just plug and play and keep
keep the.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Train on the tracks. Right, he could reunite with the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I don't think so. I think they want to put
speed now. I think they reunite for Kansas City's with
Tyree Hill. I think they bring him back and that
makes sense and give it a go. Andy Reid has
a type when it comes to receivers, and you know,
big body, aging guys that are slow.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Isn't that type?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Was he hurt last year?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Because I was looking at his stats and he had
bill twenty two catches for three hundred and thirty yards.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
No, nuke, Yeah, he was a little dinged up.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
He wasn't.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, they use it as a third down guy, you know.
I mean it's you get the Tim Patrick roll.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Six.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Zach Bond has said Vic Fangio is taking the Eagles
defense to the next level this year.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
This comes after a few seasons.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Of elite defensive performances from the Vic Fangio Eagles defense.
That said, though, Ben, who is going to be the
league's best defense this season? Is it going to be
the Texans, the Seahawks, the Eagles, the Broncos or someone else?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I didn't even mention.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I got some Mount Rushmore. I think those are the
ones that you're you're looking at. There are some other
teams that could have some pretty decent defenses.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
We'll we'll see.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I think, you know, Tennessee is still missing a couple
of pieces, but I think they'll get you know, Bob
Solid I think will do a good job with them.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I if I had to bet, I bet on Houston
just what they do like that. They there's no gimmicks,
there's no frills, and their mentality it's not exotic. It's
like we're going to do one thing and we're going
to do it in so incredibly well that you can't
score on us, and they do.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
So I think they'll be I think they'll be in
the mix. The Broncos. I think they have a chance.
Just gotta stay healthy in terms of what they do. Uh.
You know, Seattle, that's kind of the vogue defense that everybody's.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Starting to go to. Lost some pieces.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, and they lost some pieces, And I kind of
think the more you show of that, the more it
easier it is, it gets solved, you know, the more
somebody goes up against it, somebody starts to figure out
what works. So you could see a little bit of
a regression there, you know. I think the Broncos will
be the bigs. But I if I were a bet man,
I'd laid on the Texans. As far as Zach Bond's comments.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I mean, pangel has been there a few years. We
know what he runs.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
He's gonna run the same thing. Take it to the
next level. I don't know what next level there is
to take it to.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I would fully agree.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
I think the Broncos have a good chance if they
get better takeaway luck. I think that's the thing that
could supercharge him from being, you know, fifth best defense
to number one. They were really good last year and
just had terrible takeaway luck. The Texans, though, I'm with you,
they should be the heavy favorites.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
They're so darn talented.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
The one week link on that defense was probably you know,
a true like run stuffy nos tackle. And then they
drafted the best one there was in the draft, a
guy who most people had as a top twenty talent.
It was just doesn't play a super valuable position. Now
he's in Houston and you got Demiko Ryan's pulling the strings.
That defense is going to be a nightmare. I think
they could win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, that one comes down to the offense, come out quarterback.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I mean c J. Stroud gave away their playoffs.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
If he plays as good as Darnold does last year,
they might have won the super Bowl this past season.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
If he plays as good as Jeffrett's did, they might have.
I mean he was terrible, because it was terrible in
the playoffs, horrendous, just kept turning the football over.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I was like, does this guy? Does the mob have
this guy's pub or something? I felt like it was.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Nigel Gruff from the replacements for a minute there so
school of quarterbacking. Yeah, yeah, hey, you know, I bet
on himself. Appreciate you being in there for.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
The for the six spector zech always happy to join. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
On the text line, somebody texted in and said Congress
is working on a bill right now that we'll give
athletes five years of eligibility and also regognize exceptions to
missions military services. Fine, but Congress has no business being
involved in this, Like, we don't need Congress involved in
college sports.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
We need a.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Regulatory body in college sports that works, That's what you need.
I don't know, like, who gives a crap about you know,
Congress coming out, you know, and you know how his
government gets involved everythin GE's worse anyway.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Everyone's super thrilled with the job Congress is doing. Right now,
They've been really efficient. You know, problems crop up and
they just take care of them. No, no issue. So
I think handing putting more stuff on their plated probably
go great.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, I'm uh, you know their approval rating is.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
You know, they have nothing bigger to worry about.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
This is important.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
The last I don't want college I don't want Congress
or the government involved in college sports. College sports needs
to get a regulatory body and figure it out.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
I always say, if you want a speedy solution, you know,
turn to Congress and the right right right, the notorious
for how.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Quickly, efficiently and cost effectively and how right they get things.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
So that's uh, you know, it's it's total. I don't go.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
We got a few more minutes here, about five more
minutes here, taking you up to about of the hour,
where we will have live coverage of the Men's World.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Cup the United States taken on Turkey. I believe it
games in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yep Sofi Stadium.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
The starting eleven for the US, as we mentioned earlier,
nine changes Matt Turner and Gold, and you've got Austin Trusty, Geo,
Reina Weston McKinney who is a regular player, their captain
tonight usually Tyler Adams, Ricardo Pepe, Brendan Aaronson, Miles Robinson,
Sebastian Burholter, who is Greg Berhalter's son, the former head coach.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
For this, I want to say something real quick because
there's a lot of people talking about nepotism with Sebastian.
Sebastian's a good player and he was kept out of
the team when his dad was the coach. It was
the opposite of nepotism. Yeah, this is not a nepo thing.
That do deserve to be on it before and didn't
get there.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Then Tim Waia, who is an up and coming star,
Mark McKenzie and Joe scally So.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Who's the other main starter that's sticking around.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
McKinney's one of and then who's the.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Other Pepe started last game.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
For christ Yeah, is that what counts as the.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah, so he is not.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
For the last game.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Fact, they only have one starter out there. It's really
it's really one of their intended starters.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Right, and Matt Turner was their longtime goalkeeper until the
Gold Cup last year, So it's cool to him for
him to at least get on the grass for a
game because I don't know if you've seen the documentary
Us Against Them, and it is great man and he
was like die Hard, showing up to everything and still
lost his job to Freeze, I believe as the goalkeeper.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Now have you seen Freeze talk about the paper he
wrote at HARVOW I guess so he's a Harvard grad.
He wrote some sort of academic paper about penalty kicks
and the way people do penalty kicks where they end
up in the goal. They kept trying to get more
information out of him about this paper and he said,
that's proprietary and I want to share it until fifteen
(18:29):
years from now when I'm all done.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
The episode I watched just the other night of that
documentary I was talking about Us against Them. He won
a penalty shootout at the end of practice against Matt
Turner and that was like the turning point of him
becoming the starting goalkeeper. So that's interesting that he wrote
what paper it's on HBO Oh.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I'll definitely be checking that out.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
He has taken, by the way, a ton of shots
on goal and not scored. Throughout this tournament, they have
taken sixty one shots on goals and not score. They
are number one shots on goal and zero goals to
show forth, the United States has only taken twenty five
shots on goal, is scored.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Six, and they're the second best odds to win the
group entering the World Cup.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Turkey, Yeah, yeah, yeah, they've been a huge disappointment, so
this could be their one like final send off, like, hey,
at least we beat the US on our way out.
But man, like, this is such an exciting time to
be a soccer fan.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
But do you even get much solace from that? If
your Turkey, Like, wow, we beat the US's backups right
in a game?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
They that meant nothing else.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Nine of their starters are out and technically ten because
Polistic didn't play last game.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
So yeah, I was said, maybe that makes it a
bit of like a must win for Turkey, Like, yeah,
they don't have anything to gain other than pride. But
if you lose to this American team all back, it's
nothing to gain. That's that's an embarrassing way to return
to the homeland.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
And I will tell you, I mean, we're better now.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
United States soccer, but losing to the US is something
it was would be considered it embarrassment internationally.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
It's like losing to the Browns even when they have
good years with Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
It's and the US isn't that bad.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
But yeah, but it's one of those you know, it's
your brand, is not a proud football or we're not
out a big you know international Losing to the United
States gets you laughed at in the in the in
the international reddit, famy.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
We're going to be in the sweet sixteen, as I'm
calling it this tournament and probably the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
It's not going to be an embarrassment anyway.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Is this like the Rockies are going five hundred or
is this like.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
No, this is legit.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Okay, We're playing Bosnia her Negovia in the round.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Yeah whatever.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
They were playing all the countries I've been that's.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Well, I know why you're cheering for Turkey because you
need that hair transplant.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I do. That's what I say. We're flying there. Men's
World Cup action next, he kay
There by the glass taking you all the we up
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to World Cup action here at the bottom of the hour,
United States taking on Turkey and the United States.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Is what what'd you say? Grant nine lineup changes for
the game?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Nine changes to the starting lineup in a game that
doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah, I mean so they're very obviously uh phoning in.
We'll see maybe the backups. But I have a feeling
I'm gonna be right for show me the money side
coast Zack Seers jumping here in studio to do a
little NFL six pack.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
It's time for the NFL six pack.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm going to insight and insight information you can't find
anywhere else.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
The top six NFL headline.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
What I gotta say quick before the headlines.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
You got to be the only American fading the USA
right now. You haven't yet to pick them and show
me the money.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, and if Australia hadn't owned gold themselves, might have
had a shot with them still a lost still well,
I didn't need them, no way.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I just needed to cover.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
According to the athletics Nate Adkins, not to be confused
with the Broncos tight end Ty Simpson, has failed to
separate from Stetson Bennett in the Rams quarterback two competition.
Atkins is also reporting that there's now significant concern inside
the Rams facility about their backup quarterback situation with Jimmy Garoppolo,
last year's backup now retired.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
What do you make of this report?
Speaker 5 (01:22):
And will the ty Simpson selection live an infamy if
the Rams fail to win a super Bowl in this
all in season.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Okay, here's here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Number one here, they haven't had a practice for them
to separate yet. I mean, you've had like a couple
of days OTAs or whatever, which is fair. They haven't
had a practice to separate, so I think that is
a bit premature. I don't know Nate Atkins, not Adkins,
you know, I don't know him.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I don't you know.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
He works the athletics, so ostensibly a good reporter, but
I don't know him. This is not exactly what I've
heard coming out of LA on this. I would pump
the brakes on this until we've at least seen a
couple of practices before we can maybe make this determination.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And then that's a fair point. I will say.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
If the they might not have a lot of practices.
But they are doing installs, they are doing meetings with
all the coaches, and if inside that facility they're starting
to maybe have a little buyer's remorse already, they'd be
a little concerned.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
The other thing I would say is, how do you
have buyer's remorse on somebody you knew was a project quarterback?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
But is he is the thing? He's an incredibly old
draft pick. He's not super traits. He he's I don't
know what you're getting really excited for with like the
long vision.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I mean, all I know is this was definitely somebody
that was not going to be ready day one.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
You knew that coming in.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
That feels better, but whatever, who knows this could be
Maybe this is a red.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Airing thrown but maybe there really is a quandary.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I stets Embednett as your backup, though, yes, I would
be worried about that.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
That'd be terrifying.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Two this week, the NFL announced that they wouldn't be
holding a supplemental draft, which prevents Brendan's Soresby from entering
the league until the twenty twenty seven NFL Draft at
the earlier What do you make of this move by
the league and do you think this decision is fair
to Soorsby.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I don't think that whether it's fairer to him or
not factors in. What I will say is that Soorsby
lied to the league, and the league does not look
kindly on that. He still has potential criminal charges hanging
over his head for money laundering, a wire fraud. He
hasn't shown to me the least bit of remorse about
(03:27):
any of this and has been playing the victim of
a situation that he himself created. You don't get to
go to gambling rehab whatever the hell that is, for
a couple of weeks, and then claim you're miraculously cured
from you having placed bets and.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
He does a severe gambling addiction tens of thousands.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
And then the worst part about this is, you know,
I mean he was placing bets on unders on his
own team. That is the That's that's it. That's the
cardinal rule.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
If you're going to gamble, you know there's there's several
lines to cross. The final line is betting against your guys.
And that's what he did when he was at Cincinnati.
He bet against his own guys. He bet the unders
on thing he can't do that.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
The only way it could have been worse is if
he played and he was still the backup quarterback.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
He's an injury.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Way he could have entered the games any of those
that any of those ones where he had placed a bet,
and he just was, I guess, fortunate enough to not
make his situation even worse than it already is.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, he did some impatient rehab for gambling addictions.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
This is the biggest joke I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Texas Tech tried to scramble to get him too play
and then finally realized him that they were up against it,
that nobody was siding with the mirror.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
He didn't murder anybody, though, there.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I mean, there is that, There is that, But you know,
end of the day, the letter, the league said, the letter,
they said that the league didn't have enough time to
review his case before deciding. The deadline was obviously Monday,
and he said his petition in last week. But I mean,
the NFL is not required to have one. They certainly
don't have to be fair to Brendon Sorsby. He's not
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a you know, and then there the Soorsby, he immediately
litigious goes to suing his potential former employer. And I'm
gonna tell you, ask anybody who's ever sued the league.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
It's not gone well.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Last Mo Clarette, Ask Colin Kaepernick, Ask anybody who sues
the league and unknow, Well, he's not covered under the CBA.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
He's not a member exactly the NFL PA.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
The lawyer said, we're going to talk to the NFL PA,
the NFL Players Association.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So you're not an NFL player, right, And so that's
that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I don't if I'm Brendan Soorsby, your entire strategy has
been incorrect this entire time. Stop what you're doing, Start
showing some remorse, Start taking accountability for your own actions,
put yourself in front of kids and talk about the
dangers of gambling it kind of stuff. Your pr strategy
right now is entirely wrong, and you're not.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Going to win. What do you think he does in
this year off?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Is it just going to be like training for the
draft kind of like we saw during the COVID season
with guys like Micah Parsons and Jamar Chase Or could
he do a lower level league? I guess baootball the
Blaze best bet as to train not to put in
any bad tape anywhere and go from there.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
That's your best bet. I talked to people about it.
They're like, yeah, I mean, you know, the ufl any
that kind of stuff, But don't juco ball whatever. Don't
just go train, show everybody you can keep your nose clean.
Quit Sue and everybody, and then turn around and come
into the twenty twenty seven draft.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Gambling problem caller takes one eight hundred gambler three.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Yesterday, the D one Cabinet approved a new eligibility rule
that will now give college players a hard five years
to play five seasons. That year timer will start either
when the player begins a full academic year, when they're
on campus, or when they turn nineteen, whichever comes first.
Do you like this ruling by the NCAA and do
(06:43):
you think it even matters considering they couldn't enforce the
gambling rules against Brendan.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Soarsby Exactly, I don't think it matters. They can't enforce it,
and who cares. It's stupid.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
This harms people who are latter day saints.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
That want to do a two year mission because you know,
they want to get those two years and the clock
starts before they get there, as harms people who go
serve in the military or you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
For a couple of years before going to college.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
It's it's stupid. It doesn't solve anything. This has yet
another rule that doesn't solve anything. I don't even know
what they're doing here. This is dumb in a litany
of dumb. This is more dumb on top of it.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I feel like they're just trying to grab any semblance
of power they can. The Soresby one was a huge
red flag to me about the NCAAA where Man and
Texas Tech kind of bailed them out. But that was
Texas Tech doing on This alid not anything to do
with the NCAAA institution. If they can't enforce, like you said,
the cardinal rule, I don't know what good they even are.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It seems like it's just for show.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
The NCAA has been largely a toothless organization whose entire
power has been permitated by the image that it has power.
As soon as anybody flaunts it and we see what
happens they back down or see give some meaningless slap
on the wrist or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
We need a real rule.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Enforcing institution to take abolish the NCAA and come up
with something that works that can hold people accountable, hold
institutions accountable when they make mistakes, and not these laughable
slap on the risk things to to the to the
high end while punishing, you know, arbitrarily the mid and
lower end schools for big news breaking.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Last night, Lions started starting Cornerback and PS two's podcast
co host Terry On. Arnold was arrested last night in
connection to an alleged armed robbery and kidnapping. Life in
prison is on the table in terms of sentencing assuming
he misses a significant amount of time this season. Can
the Lions still challenge for an NFC North title? And
(08:42):
do you think they can return to contender status without Arnold?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I don't think he factors in as that go, And
be honest with you, he wasn't that great a corner
for him previously. As far as the rest of the
as far as the rest of this stuff, if you've
caught up with a.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Story, it looks pretty bad for Arnold.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Baby evidence seems standing. They've they've got I guess, group
chat messages and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, it's just ridiculous. Hey, he was on FaceTime orchestrating
this whole thing.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
What an idiot? Just just have insurance and use the
insurance to pay everything off.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
What do you do with chase it after people who
the cops already cleared in the investigation saying it wasn't them.
I didn't even know what to do. This thing is
mind blowing how stupid it was.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
And two hundred and fifty thousand dollars obviously a lot
of money, but for him on even a rookie deal
where you're making three four million a year, like, yes,
it hurts, but blowing up your whole life and career
over this situation, which it does seem like that could
be the ultimate.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I mean, he could get life off of this.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
This is even if he doesn't like five years you're
a cornerback.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
That's done. Yeah, you're done.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
The money's gone and you're not getting the second contract
and life changing money and all that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Dude, get insurance on these kinds of things. Be done
with that. Move on.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
What do you think about the Lion's prospects?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
So this year and a crowded FC North with the
Packers and the Bears, like, do you think they can
get back to the top and make a run as
a contender.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Well, I think it's interesting because with Ben Johnson gone,
now you're you know, and and then you had John
Morton that was a disaster and now you get what's
his face. We'll see, We'll see how that goes. I
think as the offense goes, the rest of the team
will go. That that team is I think Dan Campbell
has instilled a better culture than what he found that
team with.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I'm still not sure.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
The Lions are where they want to be, and you
got a crowded division there.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
You got to come up with w's pretty quick.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Yeah, I think it's going to come down to, like
you said, the offense, and it's you went from a
great offensive coordinator with Ben Johnson to a really, really
bad one with Morton who got fired halfway through the season.
I think Petsing's hopefully a return to the middle, but
we'll see. I think where he falls on that spectrum
will really determine their season.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah. Five that in the line.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
They built their whole identity on that, and it's it's
really deteriorated.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, especially the interior. Yep.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
As he remains a free agent, DeAndre Hopkins told the
media this week that he doesn't want to force a signing,
but he does hope to ideally sign with a contender
at some point this season. Are you surprised that Hopkins
hasn't been signed yet? And do you think we've seen
the last of Nuke in the NFL?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
No, I think somebody to take a shot at him
and his better experience. You know, he might have any
contract left to him. Him talking about being choosy like
that's fair, but also the league is, you know, the
options for him are fairly limited, especially if you want
a contender, because I'm sure Miami would offer him you know, yeah,
(11:32):
nothing right now, but if you want a contender, and
those are going to be few and far between. And
so I don't think he's done, but I do believe
that he could push himself into a position where he
does get anything that.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Makes sense to his own market.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Yes, I think it will be really limited until some
training camp injury. Something happens every year, some team gets
the you know, bad draws the short straw, and we'll
see the Hopkins then, I think is a good pivot, trusty,
reliable veteran. You can just plug and play and keep
keep the.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Train on the tracks. Right, he could reunite with the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I don't think so. I think they want to put
speed now. I think they reunite for Kansas City's with
Tyree Hill. I think they bring him back and that
makes sense and give it a go. Andy Reid has
a type when it comes to receivers, and you know,
big body, aging guys that are slow.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Isn't that type?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Was he hurt last year?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Because I was looking at his stats and he had
bill twenty two catches for three hundred and thirty yards.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
No, nuke, Yeah, he was a little dinged up.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
He wasn't.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, they use it as a third down guy, you know.
I mean it's you get the Tim Patrick roll.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Six.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Zach Bond has said Vic Fangio is taking the Eagles
defense to the next level this year.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
This comes after a few seasons.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Of elite defensive performances from the Vic Fangio Eagles defense.
That said, though, Ben, who is going to be the
league's best defense this season? Is it going to be
the Texans, the Seahawks, the Eagles, the Broncos or someone else?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I didn't even mention.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I got some Mount Rushmore. I think those are the
ones that you're you're looking at. There are some other
teams that could have some pretty decent defenses.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
We'll we'll see.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I think, you know, Tennessee is still missing a couple
of pieces, but I think they'll get you know, Bob
Solid I think will do a good job with them.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I if I had to bet, I bet on Houston
just what they do like that. They there's no gimmicks,
there's no frills, and their mentality it's not exotic. It's
like we're going to do one thing and we're going
to do it in so incredibly well that you can't
score on us, and they do.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
So I think they'll be I think they'll be in
the mix. The Broncos. I think they have a chance.
Just gotta stay healthy in terms of what they do. Uh.
You know, Seattle, that's kind of the vogue defense that everybody's.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Starting to go to. Lost some pieces.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, and they lost some pieces, And I kind of
think the more you show of that, the more it
easier it is, it gets solved, you know, the more
somebody goes up against it, somebody starts to figure out
what works. So you could see a little bit of
a regression there, you know. I think the Broncos will
be the bigs. But I if I were a bet man,
I'd laid on the Texans. As far as Zach Bond's comments.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I mean, pangel has been there a few years. We
know what he runs.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
He's gonna run the same thing. Take it to the
next level. I don't know what next level there is
to take it to.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I would fully agree.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
I think the Broncos have a good chance if they
get better takeaway luck. I think that's the thing that
could supercharge him from being, you know, fifth best defense
to number one. They were really good last year and
just had terrible takeaway luck. The Texans, though, I'm with you,
they should be the heavy favorites.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
They're so darn talented.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
The one week link on that defense was probably you know,
a true like run stuffy nos tackle. And then they
drafted the best one there was in the draft, a
guy who most people had as a top twenty talent.
It was just doesn't play a super valuable position. Now
he's in Houston and you got Demiko Ryan's pulling the strings.
That defense is going to be a nightmare. I think
they could win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, that one comes down to the offense, come out quarterback.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I mean c J. Stroud gave away their playoffs.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
If he plays as good as Darnold does last year,
they might have won the super Bowl this past season.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
If he plays as good as Jeffrett's did, they might have.
I mean he was terrible, because it was terrible in
the playoffs, horrendous, just kept turning the football over.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I was like, does this guy? Does the mob have
this guy's pub or something? I felt like it was.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Nigel Gruff from the replacements for a minute there so
school of quarterbacking. Yeah, yeah, hey, you know, I bet
on himself. Appreciate you being in there for.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
The for the six spector zech always happy to join. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
On the text line, somebody texted in and said Congress
is working on a bill right now that we'll give
athletes five years of eligibility and also regognize exceptions to
missions military services. Fine, but Congress has no business being
involved in this, Like, we don't need Congress involved in
college sports.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
We need a.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Regulatory body in college sports that works, That's what you need.
I don't know, like, who gives a crap about you know,
Congress coming out, you know, and you know how his
government gets involved everythin GE's worse anyway.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Everyone's super thrilled with the job Congress is doing. Right now,
They've been really efficient. You know, problems crop up and
they just take care of them. No, no issue. So
I think handing putting more stuff on their plated probably
go great.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, I'm uh, you know their approval rating is.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
You know, they have nothing bigger to worry about.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
This is important.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
The last I don't want college I don't want Congress
or the government involved in college sports. College sports needs
to get a regulatory body and figure it out.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
I always say, if you want a speedy solution, you know,
turn to Congress and the right right right, the notorious
for how.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Quickly, efficiently and cost effectively and how right they get things.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
So that's uh, you know, it's it's total. I don't go.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
We got a few more minutes here, about five more
minutes here, taking you up to about of the hour,
where we will have live coverage of the Men's World.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Cup the United States taken on Turkey. I believe it
games in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yep Sofi Stadium.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
The starting eleven for the US, as we mentioned earlier,
nine changes Matt Turner and Gold, and you've got Austin Trusty, Geo,
Reina Weston McKinney who is a regular player, their captain
tonight usually Tyler Adams, Ricardo Pepe, Brendan Aaronson, Miles Robinson,
Sebastian Burholter, who is Greg Berhalter's son, the former head coach.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
For this, I want to say something real quick because
there's a lot of people talking about nepotism with Sebastian.
Sebastian's a good player and he was kept out of
the team when his dad was the coach. It was
the opposite of nepotism. Yeah, this is not a nepo thing.
That do deserve to be on it before and didn't
get there.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Then Tim Waia, who is an up and coming star,
Mark McKenzie and Joe scally So.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Who's the other main starter that's sticking around.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
McKinney's one of and then who's the.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Other Pepe started last game.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
For christ Yeah, is that what counts as the.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah, so he is not.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
For the last game.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Fact, they only have one starter out there. It's really
it's really one of their intended starters.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Right, and Matt Turner was their longtime goalkeeper until the
Gold Cup last year, So it's cool to him for
him to at least get on the grass for a
game because I don't know if you've seen the documentary
Us Against Them, and it is great man and he
was like die Hard, showing up to everything and still
lost his job to Freeze, I believe as the goalkeeper.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Now have you seen Freeze talk about the paper he
wrote at HARVOW I guess so he's a Harvard grad.
He wrote some sort of academic paper about penalty kicks
and the way people do penalty kicks where they end
up in the goal. They kept trying to get more
information out of him about this paper and he said,
that's proprietary and I want to share it until fifteen
(18:29):
years from now when I'm all done.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
The episode I watched just the other night of that
documentary I was talking about Us against Them. He won
a penalty shootout at the end of practice against Matt
Turner and that was like the turning point of him
becoming the starting goalkeeper. So that's interesting that he wrote
what paper it's on HBO Oh.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I'll definitely be checking that out.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
He has taken, by the way, a ton of shots
on goal and not scored. Throughout this tournament, they have
taken sixty one shots on goals and not score. They
are number one shots on goal and zero goals to
show forth, the United States has only taken twenty five
shots on goal, is scored.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Six, and they're the second best odds to win the
group entering the World Cup.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Turkey, Yeah, yeah, yeah, they've been a huge disappointment, so
this could be their one like final send off, like, hey,
at least we beat the US on our way out.
But man, like, this is such an exciting time to
be a soccer fan.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
But do you even get much solace from that? If
your Turkey, Like, wow, we beat the US's backups right
in a game?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
They that meant nothing else.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Nine of their starters are out and technically ten because
Polistic didn't play last game.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
So yeah, I was said, maybe that makes it a
bit of like a must win for Turkey, Like, yeah,
they don't have anything to gain other than pride. But
if you lose to this American team all back, it's
nothing to gain. That's that's an embarrassing way to return
to the homeland.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
And I will tell you, I mean, we're better now.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
United States soccer, but losing to the US is something
it was would be considered it embarrassment internationally.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
It's like losing to the Browns even when they have
good years with Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
It's and the US isn't that bad.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
But yeah, but it's one of those you know, it's
your brand, is not a proud football or we're not
out a big you know international Losing to the United
States gets you laughed at in the in the in
the international reddit, famy.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
We're going to be in the sweet sixteen, as I'm
calling it this tournament and probably the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
It's not going to be an embarrassment anyway.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Is this like the Rockies are going five hundred or
is this like.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
No, this is legit.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Okay, We're playing Bosnia her Negovia in the round.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Yeah whatever.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
They were playing all the countries I've been that's.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Well, I know why you're cheering for Turkey because you
need that hair transplant.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I do. That's what I say. We're flying there. Men's
World Cup action next, he kay
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