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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, I've done a Broncos Country Tonight short show post
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Rockies edition, Benjamin all Brighten, Nick Ferguson here with you.
It's gonna be like this a week. We get to Thursday.
We got a full show, full live show on Thursday,
but we got Rockies today, Tomorrow and Wednesday. So there
you go on that, Nick, You you got World Cup
fever at all? You've been watching any more of the
World Cup?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Of course, I've been watching. How can you not?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
First and foremost, there's no NBA basketball, there's no NFL.
It's a lot of NFL talk and a lot of
NFL narrative, but I mean it's the most exciting thing
if you want to say.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Now, the only NFL videos being put out as Brandon
and I you can his closet throwing money around.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
So yeah, yeah, And I don't think those actually count
as NFL videos.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That might be is not as long that's exactly what
he's doing with his career. But yeah, man, how could
you not? In braces?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
And I know we've talked about this before, but now
we're getting down to the final thirty two where every
game matters right there, I mean, points actually matter in
their their premium, and I'm really excited for team You're say,
someone was asking me, well, who who was I rooting for? IM?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Like, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Comrade Edwards, so I am rooting for the United States.
It's going to be a tough task because you still
have you know, Spain, that's out there, Portugal and you
have friends, right ye, so uh yeah, it's gonna be
really tough. But well man, how great would it be
if they were able to actually win it all here
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being in the United States?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
That would be great.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
They got another easy one to get we say easy,
they got another easy, say that they've got an opponent
that's not considered a contender in Bosnia, and then it
starts to get a little tougher after that. They typically
with the World Cup, they do try to give the
host uh the easy schedule and the to be fair,
the United States has had the easy schedule so far.
You have Bosni, that'll that'll be uh the easiest of
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the remainders. But then after that it starts to get
a little tough and we'll figure out what this team
team actually But it's fun right now and who knows,
I mean, interest in soccer is is certainly up here
in the United.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
States right now, listen this do this for international fans.
It just wants like a correction. We can't call it soccer.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I'm not calling it football football.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Okay, you may not call it football, but you can
call it football football.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah yeah, foreign football. That's uh yeah, I'm still gonna
call it soccer. But you know it's it's uh. They'll
they'll get used to me one way or the other.
It's been an interesting day. Not a lot of the
NFL stuff going on, but NBA, even though that season
is concluded, it has a lot going on right now.
We saw the Warriors, uh you know, moving on from
(02:43):
Draymond Green there and or least terminatings contract that may
bring him back on another deal. But I have talked
to some people on the league and they are it
appears to me the Warriors are trying to reunite Lebron
James and Anthony Davis on their Squarethy on the Golden
State Senior Citizens Home as they as they normally do.
That's what the team is a bit old forever, that's
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what they do. They get all the old guys and
bring them in.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Okay, so old. It is such a how to sit.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So it's a relative term. But in terms of NBA.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
But yeah, okay, oh makes it seem like you got
a sixty seven Chevy and it's got the rust on it.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's old.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Let's just say they're really seasoned. This is a really
experienced bunch, right, a lot of NBA years. And listen,
I get it what Draymond is doing. And he's opting
out with the idea of kind of restructuring his deal,
possibly to take less money, which I think is great
when players are willing to do that and sign me up.
(03:43):
I want to see what it looks like, right, can
you get Anthony Davis from from the Wizards? What are
you gonna have to trade to do that? You may
have to give up maybe a Jimmy Jimmy Butler maybe.
But what does this mean for the Nuggets?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Well, I mean it means you got to old team
in the Golden State Warriors. That'll be uh. I mean
they still got some game though Anthony Davis can still
play when he's healthy. Lebron can can still play. He's
not you know, elite Lebron, but he's still good. They
still got Steph Curry, who was still a sniper from
deep and if they do bring Draymond back, you gotta
watch out for you still gotta watch out for the
dirty fouls, you know, dirty dirty bond Green. But it's
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I mean, you know, for as far as the Nuggets go,
this is interesting because you've got Minnesota and one of
the things I had I hadn't considered when they were
bringing in Ball and kind of blowing the thing up
the way that they were doing. Minnesota's moving to East.
They don't need to be a Nugget killer anymore. They
had to be a Nick killer, right they kill the
New York Knicks. And so if you're if you're retooling
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that team, I sort of get what they're doing now
when I've view it through that lens, because I didn't
initially sort of get it, like why are you committed?
Why are you get rid of as Reed and committing
to Rudy Gobert. But I sort of get what they're
trying to do now we've did we beat that dead
horse hero this show. We both hate Rudy Coop, Rudy
Carbert or whatever his name is. But what I'm saying
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is like, when they initially made that move, I'm looking like,
what are they doing. But I sort of get it
in the sense that you don't have to deal with
the Nuggets anymore the way you would have to. You're
not gonna play them in a series in a playoffs.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Because you beat them with less guys and.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
You're moving to the East anyway, you gotta beat the
Knicks like that's the team you gotta watch out for now, right,
So I sort of get what they're doing. That's why
they went out and got ball. I sort of get
what they were doing. On the other side of things, though,
Golden State like loading up on these guys. I don't
know that that's a nugget killer either. Really, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Say yes it is, even though these guys are older
their experience. Look at what the Nuggets have. The Nuggets
are not a defensive team, and their defense is where
we just going to outscore you, right, what happens when
that gets shut down? And what we saw from Minnesota
when when they played the Nuggets six to c beat.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I think the Nuggs were three seed, but they were constructed.
I mean the Wolves were constructed to beat the Nuggets.
With insider knowledge from a former GM, I get.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
That Tim Colly did a great great job. But like
Jay McDaniel said during the series, he called all the
Nuggets out, basically called them soft. They don't play defense, listen,
And that was one of the things that Michael Malone
had been telling people for so many years, and that's
the thing that got him fired. But the Nuggets are
not that type of team. They're not a gritty team.
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And they can they run and gun, yes, they can
do that, but if you need them to slow people
down defensively, they can't. And then Aaron Gordon's when he's healthy,
he can go, but he hasn't really been that healthy.
So if the Golden State Warriors were to put together
a team like this, from an NFL standpoint, it will
remind me of what less Need did a couple of
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years ago when Von Miller was on the Rams team
and what he's trying to do now with Miles Garrett,
because they say, look, I'm building to win now and
all those players, Anthony Davis, Draymond Green, Lebron James, Steph Curry,
those guys are starting to age out. They have unique
qualities that you can utilize and they're willing to roll
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the dice and push all their chips to the center
to the table and form their all star team.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And there's something I mean you use a for professional
athlete can relate to. You get older, you get smarter.
You know, maybe you lose some of that athleticism. But
if you've got a team with enough guys on it,
they're not going to be able to run and gun.
They're going to lose to running gun teams, right, they'll
run them up and down the court, but they're gonna
beat They're gonna beat the other teams. They're gonna beat
the mid court teams because they're going to be smarter
than them. In addition to the fact that they're talented,
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these guys are better at a collective basketball IQ was
Einstein across the board.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
You know what, Once again, you look at each individual's
guy's skill and you're right, they're all slowing down. But
if they utilize their unique skills together, that changes a lot,
right because even Lebron, mean, in his what twenty third
or whatever year, he's still playing well for a guy
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that his age. So to have pieces around him it
makes it easier. You know, you're taking the stress off
of them. The Nuggets don't have those types of players,
and they have Nikola Jokic. But then let's just say
you got step who can shoot the three, Lebron who
occasionally gets shoot the three, but he still can drive.
He still can get you maybe a double double. Draymond's
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gonna play defense, Anthony's get you some rebounds. That still
would be a tough team to defeat, because, like you said,
while they may be slowing down, they are speeding up
as far as their level of experience and they learn
to play with one another. That would cause a problem
for not just the Denver Nuggets, for a young Spurs team,
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it would cause issues for an OKC team. And the
idea is that you just want to create enough mismatches
right that you could take advantage of. So if this
was to come to fruition, this would be great. But
here's something else now I was concerned about. When you
look at clutch sports, they're representing a lot of players,
(09:00):
and Rich Paul represents Lebron, A d darn Fox, Zach Levine.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Andrew Mond, Guette Green, and the list goes on.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I'm like, we get a thing of conflict of interest
or how many players are we only like clutch sport
represents to a point where Adam Silver in the NBA
is no longer in control.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, I mean, Rich Paul, Clutchport, they run the NBA.
It's the same thing, like there was a moment there
and now Drew doesn't do it as much anymore, but
there was a moment the where Drew's basically well, you know,
you've seen it in various other Jimmy Sexton running college football.
You know, we've seen it. What's his name's got Boris
running baseball. We've seen over the years some of the
mega agents basically running the sport. And right now, you know,
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clutch Sport certainly does. Now Lebron's on the backside of
the career. I don't know how much longer that goes
unless you know, Rich Paul gets in with something, you know,
one of the younger guys and and you know, rebuilds
around him. But as it sits right now, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
They do.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
They do run that, and that they've been doing that
for a while. The engineered whole thing down in Miami,
the engineered the thing in LA they you know then,
and so that's I mean, I don't know if that's
good for the sport or not.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's not good for the sport.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Overall, it's not. I mean it brings it brings eyeballs
to it when you have sort of these super teams
that they put together themselves, because it brings eyeballs to it.
But in the long run and league wide with parody, no.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
It's not well interesting. It goes back to the Olympics,
and I mean Steph Curry saved the Baker for Team USA.
But Lebron has always wanted to play with Steph Curry, right,
It's always wanted to do it. And I think going
back to that Olympic game and watching those two guys
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play together, you can say they're old. You can say
that the experience, use whatever adje it is to describe
these guys, but that would be deadly to have these
guys on the same team. I know a lot of
teams have tried to build their big three, and a
lot of big threes haven't worked. But knowing as these
guys have had an opportunity to work with each other
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on Team USA gives them a slight advantage and they
know we don't have to run up and down the court.
We're gonna turn turn it into a half court game
and play their game. It reminds me of a low
king Polly when you're watching Seymour Hoffman.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Oh yeah and making it rain. Oh god, half court
offense yep? Does I mean yeah, there's gonna be I
mean they're gonna have to get some young bodies to
come in off the bench and be able to run
in that kind of stuff and figure that out. But
you can sort of see the core if they're able
to pull that off and what they're trying to do. Uh.
Lebron has always been at his best when you had
two guys that can shoot with him and another guy
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that can rebound. You can find you find one guy
that can that can clog up the middle a little
bit and rebound, and two guys that are snipers, and
and that creates something for Lebron.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Well, once again you have the best sniper.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
And Steph curry Y's right, So it would open.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Up the floor for Lebron to get easy layups, even
if for a guy is at his age. So as
a fan, I will love to see this happen.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
The big question does he bring Brownie with him?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
With Rich Paul kind of pulling the strings, I wouldn't
be surprised, but that wouldn't be a great thing though.
I don't want to see that.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
No, you don't want to know. You don't think that,
you know he's carrying his son with him or whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Just like it's just like listen and now I respect it.
You know father's son. If I could, I would do
the same thing. It's like, well, Joannis in Milwaukee, Well
he's got to go, you.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Bet, you bet your backside he's gonna be in Miami.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Uh as a Heat.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Fan, I don't want to see that because you're wasting
a roster spot. You've already done that already. You already
got your your brother in the league, your son in
the league. You got him play that little recognition. Now
it's time to move on.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I'm telling you right now if he is, if that
dude is not in Miami, I will be stunned.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Now, okay, well here's what we're gonna do. We're going
to Washington see what happens in Miami. Right and if
y'all is going to tell pat Rowley because pat Rowley
doesn't like being told what to do, that's rich Paul
and lebron as a reason they're not there that they're
gonna dictate to him, what's gonna happen? I mean, I'm
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all for brotherly love. I would do it for my brother,
but at some point, like my mom would say, every
tub's got to stand on.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
His own bottom.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Oh, I'm just saying, I like, would you do it?
And either situation, your son or your brother, would you
do it?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Probably? I would probably already done it already yet I
would probably take care of my family. But I mean
it depends, like, is that roster because who's that roster
not gonna go? Who's the fifteenth roster spot in Miami
gonna go?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
To?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Really, end of the day, do you need that to get?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Know, you can get someone that you are grooming and
you're developing. I mean, Gianni's brother, all due respect, has
been on the Bucks team for a while. Has his
skill set and improved enough to command a ross's spot?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Is he good enough to be your practice guy that
you know can come in there play. If he is,
then but then we do. If he's not good enough
to be that dude that I'm not wasting the washer
spot on him.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
But if he is, I'm just saying, Uh, at some point, man,
you gotta gotta let let him find Man, you gotta
spread your wings.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I mean, are you because Vladislav Golden, that's who's the
fifteenth Rochester spot Right now, you're really telling me that
that's that's who you're, that's what you're. Yes, yeah, he's
the maker, great guy that you can't bring fanasas or
however you pronounce that guys.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Now, Yes, but okay, I know nepotism is a real thing,
right and I get it. That's your brother, that's your blood.
You will to look out for him. But haven't you
done it enough already? Hasn't he done it enough already?
I mean, his brother's been his biggest cheerleader with the
Milwaukee Bucks. Right at some point you have to say, man,
go out there and.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Do your thing.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Vladislav Golden, by the way, last year got in nine
games and he averaged less than a point per game.
He did get into nine total games.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Okay, Now I'm wondering what did yon his brother ud happen.
I would dare to say that it was probably even
less than that, saying okay, well, how many games you
played in?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
How many points do you score?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Even if he actually everaged more points per game? He did, Yes,
he got in thirty four games, and he averaged one
point four points per game, doubling up lad Slot Golders.
Uh ah he uh yeah, there was a fantasist. I believe.
I believe his uh his season high was the twenty
seven minute performance against the six Ers, where he scored
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eight points and had six assists.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Man, come on, do that. We can't we can't do that.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I mean, you know, I'm just saying like, it's not
no man, we can't do that. First resident. To his credit,
he's played in two hundred and thirty two games over
his career. He's never averaged more than three point six
a k a game in a season, but he's gotten
into He's got it. A two hundred and thirty two games,
started eleven for his career. He averages about seven minutes.
He's a guy you bring in when you're way up
or way down, you know, and go from there. He's
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just that that body at the end of the bench.
I don't know if it keeps Gianni's happy, Like that's
that's what you're looking at though, Listen.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Man, I guess so.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
But I still don't see Pat Rowley just kind of
giving into it because he goes totally opposite of what
Pat Rowley actually stands for.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Man, I can't see it.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Okay, fair thirty seconds here, real quick. But Bronni for
the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I mean, well, okay, I'll take Jiannis's son over Bronnie.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Giannis's brother before you take Bronnie in there. Ye hate
on Bronnie, man, know, Man, I'm just saying Bronny alone.
Bronnie had a couple of games here or there, a
couple he was terrible. He wasn't terrible like he's He
is absolutely a bottom of the roster NBA guy.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
That's the lea.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, we gotta need a break. Broncos Country Tonight backed
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Full show Thursday, and then of course we got the
holiday weekend this weekend, fourth of July. Stay safe out there,
(17:05):
it'll Jason Pierre Paul yourself by playing with fireworks when
you shouldn't be. And yes, I said Jason Pierre Paul,
and not Paul, I said Pauw. Not Paul paw Paw.
Jason Pierre Paul Oh yeah, that was. Uh, be careful
out there with the fireworks. There's a lot there's there's
too many horror stories with all this stuff, so just
be be careful with that stuff. Some some news that
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I guess sort of ties to Denver. Nine year NBA
veteror Malik Beasley, formerly of the Nugets. It has been
indicted on federal charges for gambling related to a sports
betting scheme such as point shaving prop bets. That was
for his attorney, Steve Haney to ESPN the government's coordinating
and voluntary surrender of Beasley this week. Uh. He did
not appear in the NBA last season, new to the
(17:49):
gambling investigation. Uh, it was reportedly working on a voluntary
surrender here. Former NBA veteror Ed Davis also indicted as
part of the investigation. There's text message is between them
talking about stuff. And there's a couple of oddities with
Malik Beasley. If you go back and look games that
were well within hand or over whatever, and all of
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a sudden he's racing out there, shoving guys out of
the way for a rebound or jacking up a three
point shot. You know, those kinds of things. A matter
of fact, one of those rebounds was on the day
John Tay Porter, Michael Porter, Junior's brother got caught for
hitting the unders now Porter was betting on himself for overs.
Was it shaving points or or do that? His was overs?
You know, So it wasn't the cardinal sin, but it
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was still betting on yourself and betting on games you're
involved in, but not things where he could control the
outcome from by by messing things up. He would have
to control the outcome by succeeding and not failing. So
that's to me, some people don't view that as different.
I viewed as a little bit different, but still obviously
betting on yourself. Can't do it. Can't bet on games
you're involved in. Camp bet on you know, it's supposed
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to be on a sport you're in. And Malik Beasley
and yet another athlete getting getting caught up in the
Beasley reportedly owed millions of dollars in gambling debt, which
led to Ed Davis loaning Beasley money to pay it off,
and then Davis pressuring Beasley to start doing certain things
so that he could get paid back.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Quicker, you know, all of this is it is just
kind of crazy because this is something that I know
Paul Taglable was trying to eliminate from the NFL. That's
why he didn't want the NFL to get involved with
sports books. But guess what, they did it anyway, and
there was so much money out there. You had so
many sports for professional sports leagues deciding to get into
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it and thinking like, oh, you know what, our players
are not going to do that, and what are we
seeing time and tom again players on all different levels.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I mean we had the whole Brandes soorsby thing and
nobody'll touch him now, Yeah, no one. He made the
Cardinals said of betting on games. He was involved in
betting the Unders on his teammates.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, and to me, that's that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
And then you know, wanting to sue the NFL because
they didn't want to have the supplemental draft like they
were stopping him, and then just kind of blaming his
addiction as a crutch as to why he should be
looked at differently. No, you didn't, and you shouldn't. I mean,
you violated the rule is a car new sin and
you can't ask someone to kind of let you in
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and seeing so many NBA players get caught up and
a lot of these gambling cycles where they're trying to
hit the under, they're trying to hit the over. That
is hurting the integrity of the game. And even when
we watch a game and there's a questionable call, questionable
no call, I don't know about you.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
You know what I the first thing comes to life
on it someone's got money on the game.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I yeah, I mean it's tough. First of all, I
think the thing with Beasley is he was in debt
big time from bad gambling, and that led him to
trying to do things to get right with the people
that he owed money to. And I'm like that, that's
that's step number one. You can't get yourself if you're
losing money, stop doing it. You're not gonna beat your
way out of a hole like you're not gonna be
I can't hold on, I can't stress. And somebody who's
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been gambling for gosh twenty five years now, you cannot
bet your way out of a hole. You cannot do it.
And I know there's some idiot out there right now
is listening to me like, oh yeah, I can No,
you can't. You can't bet your way out because what's
going to happen. You've got to get out of the hole,
and you got to keep going, and you gotta bet
yourself right back into it.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
But isn't it that that's kind of the idea of gambling,
because how many gambling sites or there's a gambling advertisement
on the radio, or it's on the billboard and it
has that saying at the end.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
You have a gambling problem called one one hundred whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
They need to just change that. To be honest, you
gotta lose a problem called one eight hundred, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
But that isn't that The gambler's mentality is that I'm
going to gamble, I lose some, I win, some go
up and down like the stock market, right, and I'm
going to I hit big here, I lost big here.
But if I keep doing it over and over again,
that's why you see people. If you go to a casino,
those elderly people sitting there at the slot machine is
constantly pulling because they're thinking, us, what I got to
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go back?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
At some point we get back.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, Well, they have algorithms on that, and they're gonna
give you just enough for you to keep going pulling
that lever right. As far as the rest of gaming,
I mean, like it's just like the stock market man
in some ways, and in the sense that you can
find ways to make small uh, to make small amounts
and stack those over time if you're patient. But if
you're one of these people that's out there always doing
parlays and I do them for fun, but like you know,
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if you're trying to financially secure your family on it,
it's never gonna happen. It's not.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
And the books know that.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
That's why they make money hand over fish. They're like
they're they're content to let you keep doing it because
they know in the long run they're gonna win. House
is gonna win at at cards, you know. Like it's
it frustrates me to watch this kind of stuff because
I thought, like with the stock market, these people are
am onna like the reason was a SpaceX or whatever.
I'm like, dude, this thing is already overvalued. All these
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people that think they're getting rich. The people that are
getting rich are the people that were in before the
I p O like years ago, Like they're the one
your exit liquid for them. Uh. And we saw what happened.
It went up a little bit and then it came
right back down and it's gonna keep going down and
then you know, eventually maybe it'll be worth it. But
it's like to start, you're not You're not gonna bet
your way out of it. You're not gonna trade your
way out of it. You're not gonna, like if you
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get it in a hole from gambling, stop gambling and
start paying it off.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
But that is once again, that's the biggest part of
thinking that you can bet your your way out of it.
And it's a I say, it's an addictive personality. And
for people who have addictive personalities, it's best that they
not get involved. But you're thinking because when you think
about Malik Beasley, I think he's made an absorbant amount
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of money in his NBA career, you're thinking that you're
not gonna miss it.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
You bounce back, right, You're good, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I'm due. That's that's the biggest mytholo. It's called the
gambled follacy. I'm due for a win. You're not due
for a win. You can keep losing it as possible.
There was a guy you can win a certain number
of times, right it happens. There was a guy at
the Monica one, like the thirty one straight spins on
the on the rule that we want that kind of
luck happens. Well, if that kind of luck happens, that
kind of bad luck can happen too. It's much more
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likely that it's not going to hit that many more
times in a row. And so that's that's the thing
I think that that bugs me is I look at
this and these guys they get themselves in trouble and
then they feel like they're going to bet their way
out of it, and it makes the situation worse, so
much worse.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
And in this case with Meik Beasley, when you get
down that big from gambling death and it seems though
it was a massive amount of debt, you become very desperate,
and desperate times called for desperate measures. That's what the
saying goes. I said, it makes people do dumb stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, desperate people do dumb stuff because they're desperate.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yeah, because you're not you're not thinking, you're not thinking,
you're hoping that, hey, I hit here, I balance the books,
balance the ledger, I'm back ahead, and then now you're
thinking at that point, Because I'd like to think that
some people who find themselves in the situation, maybe lower
numbers than Malik Beasley. They they even the ledger right,
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And you would think that at that point they would stop,
they would stop.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
They don't.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
But they don't.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
They keep going and that that's it, you know. And
you can see some of these text messages in the
fileing from Beasley. He he got that last rebound with
one point one seconds left to clear, uh, and he
thought he was gonna lose. And you know one of
those things in the group chats all, you know, celebrating
their you know, celebrating that he got it for you know,
that kind of stuff. I mean, I just I feel
bad for the guy. But you like, if you can't
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afford to lose the money, don't be wagering in the
first place. I mean, and I say that as somebody
in the interest of full disclosure, who endorses bet three
sixty five. I do the gambling show on Sunday mornings. Uh.
I'm here for responsible betters. And the problem is is
that not always the people who are listening to me,
You're not always responsible. You gotta you gotta police yourself.
Flick on that. I can't babysit you. But what I
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will say is is if you if you find yourself
in a situation where you owe a ton of money,
you are not going to bet your way out of it.
You are not. It's not going to happen. But I'll
just I'll spoil the surprise for you. So to stop
doing that and figure out figure out something else. You're
clear you're not capable of doing that anymore, and you've
got to figure that out. And it's like, I don't
have addictive personality. I've seen people with it. It's just
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like for me, I'm one of those people that like
if something gets on my nerves or I'll just walk
away from.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
It, I eat it. But not everyone can actually not
matterybody can't. Like it's the thing because people say that's discipline.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Right, People dowell it right, and people talk about social
media water because I was on it a lot all
that kind of stuff, and so like that was one
of those things over last year, like I barely I
don't use social media hardly at all anymore. I get
on there and I'll tweet something, but my social media
usage is down by like eighty seven percent this year,
right because I don't if I didn't have to do
it for this job, I wouldn't have it, Like I
don't have that. Now, I understand. I've got my own vices.
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I've got my own things wrong. I thought some I
think everybody knows that some of that's played out in public.
I've got my own vices. But I don't understand addicted person.
So it's tough for me. So like I don't like
I just tell, but just walk away, just stop doing it.
It's like telling a guy whos addicted to food stop eating.
Well he can't, right, So we've got to find a
way to uh with these athletes, find a way to
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a educate you about the proftfalls of wagering more than
you can. Don't work.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Don't work.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I mean, Malik Beasley is just the latest guy. Right,
We've heard about Chauncey Billups, so many others, Jones. You
think that, okay, wow, these are big name guys. That
it would be so big that guys would want to
stop because they don't want to find themselves in this.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
It's right. Think about I mean Waza Rique, what happened
to him?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
He lost one entire year, and I say that he
needs to think that happens that he was able to
sustain his career and stay in with the Denver Broncos.
Doesn't happen for everyone else. But you can tell people
all the time, don't do this. You can show them videos,
here's what the outcome could be. But they continue to
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press the button, press the button, and thinking, Okay, well
that was them one. I'm not gonna get caught and
it's not gonna happen to me.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Right except you are. It is and you're not. I
don't know why people think they're special, you know, Like
I guess I've been in that situation for I'm not
gonna get caught better, you know, been that.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
But that's the thing, you're thinking that it is not
going to happen to me everyone else, but I'm special.
So I'm hoping that from this situation it's tough it
is for Milie Beasley and his family, that any other
player that sees this, sees the Brandon Sorosby's story, will
look at this and say.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You know what, that's enough for me.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I'm not going to get involved because I don't want
my legacy, my name to be dragged through the mud
in this particular way.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
From from that story to one that is, uh, this
genuinely sad. It's not his own fault. I don't know
if you saw his interview with Chris Johnson c J
two K that Michael strahan Uh did on Good Morning America.
Johnson Chris Johnson has been diagnosed with ALS. That's Luke
Grigg's disease. I got diagnosed last year. That disease has
progressed pretty rapidly. Johnson had to use his eyes to
operate a speech generating device in order to speak to strayhand.
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During the interview, he said he wanted to share his
story potentially help others inspire more research on cure of
the disease. He said he first noticed something was off
when he started experiencing weakness in his right hand. His
grip didn't feel right and didn't feel as strong, and
his wife Brittany, initially thought he was dealing with the
after effects of his football career. He was eventually diagnosed
with ALS. Johnson said he was initially told he could
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go on medication could extend his life a few months.
He said he and Brittany were told to get our
affairs in order, and it was really hard hearing that.
But Johnson saw an interview with actor Eric Dane also
diagnosed with als last year. On Good Morning America got
in touch with Dane's doctor, tried some experimental treatments that
might help advanced research. Then he said he fell again.
Two choices he can give up, where he can fight.
I chose to fight obviously. The Titans have released some
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statements surrounding that. Johnson, a former first round pick out
of ECU back in two thousand and eight, got NFL
started when he became six player in NFL history rush
from ward two thousand yards, broke Marshall Fulkes record for
yards from scrimmage that year with two thousand, five hundred
and nine that is still the record in the NFL,
and gave him a CJ two K nickname four point
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twenty five forty guy back at the combine back in
the day. First six seasons of his career was with
the Titans. He eventually played four more seasons of the
Jets and the Cardinals and announced his retirement in two
thousand and eighteen. Johnson joins an unfortunately long list of
former NFL players we diagnosed with als, including Bears Hall
of Famer Stee McMichael, who died of the DC's last year.
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Steve Gleason, who announced his diagnosis in twenty eleven. You know,
I wonder, you know, we would it took a long
time to get the CTE link with playing football. I
wonder if there is a link with you know, with
that and als see, now.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
You're bringing up something that there are so many people
who may not want to have that conversation, who may
not want to see that correlation, and because that would
be another damaging blow to the game of football.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Actor Eric Dane.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I remember Eric Dane from the last Bad Boys movies,
but most notable Gray's anatomy and his heartwarming story and
talking to his kid. Man. It was difficult watching that,
as though it was difficult watching Steve Gleason go through it,
and just you know, Chris's video his interview with Michael
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Strahant straight hand only made it worse from a player
standpoint and saying Okay, well man, how could this happen?
And if anyone can make or tie football to what
Chris Johnson is going through, that that is going to
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really escalate things. So I would dare to say, Ben,
there's someone out there right now trying to make sure
that there isn't a story that's written to say that
they both correlate together.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, some of the als could be genetic. About ten
fifteen percent of cases of genetic and passed down wasn't Yeah,
I don't think it was. Some of it Like military service,
we're at a much much higher risk for als in
the Yeah, Okay, prolonged exposure to certain environmental traits, toxic
particular things like that trauma, repeated head trauma and severe
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trauma have been have been studied as possible contributing risk factors.
So that could be something. Now, somebody it messaged me
earlier and they made a mistake. They said that, you know,
look at all the head trauma people and Mhammed Ali,
Ali had Parkinson's not als a difference you know, between
the two. But you know it causes. What al has
does is it causes motor neurons, which are the nerve
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cells and the brain and the spinal cord that control
voluntary muscle movement, to deteriorate and die. And scientists believe
it's it's that this does is driven by three different things.
One is excitotoxicity, which is an accumulation of glutamate, which
is a chemical messenger that becomes toxic to nerve cells.
Oxidative stress, which is an imbalance of chemicals in the
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body that damages cells, and then protein miss clumping, which
is an ability for the inability of the body to
properly dispose of and manage damage proteins within cells. And
so anytime you got a multi pronged deal like that,
it's it's obviously much more difficult to find air quotes
the cure. We haven't found the cure thus far. And
you know, for Chris Johnson, it was just a sad
and stark reminder of, you know, sometimes the frailty of
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the human body.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Well, you know, it's it's tough, man. It's tough to
see anyone go through a situation like that. It's almost
like you're being trapped in your own body and you
can't really get out and you just see videos and
flashes of all these amazing things that you did and
then now you can't really do anything. And another person
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who I think about is the White clock. The white
also succumb to his issues with als. It's just something
that needs to be studied more. And now it's something
that I need to look into for myself and say, Okay, well,
when do you start a test, what do you need
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to look for?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
And not to say that you know one has anything
to do with the other, but it is best to
know in advance.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
And once again, if you are diagnosed with it, you
can't really do anything to stop it.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Yeah, then so we'll look forward to keeping up with that.
We got to uh, we gotta call it here, but
appreciate you guys being a long for ride. Look forward
to doing it again tomorrow here on Broncos Country Tonight.
Well, I've done a Broncos Country Tonight short show post
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Rockies edition, Benjamin all Brighten, Nick Ferguson here with you.
It's gonna be like this a week. We get to Thursday.
We got a full show, full live show on Thursday,
but we got Rockies today, Tomorrow and Wednesday. So there
you go on that, Nick, You you got World Cup
fever at all? You've been watching any more of the
World Cup?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Of course, I've been watching. How can you not?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
First and foremost, there's no NBA basketball, there's no NFL.
It's a lot of NFL talk and a lot of
NFL narrative, but I mean it's the most exciting thing
if you want to say.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Now, the only NFL videos being put out as Brandon
and I you can his closet throwing money around.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
So yeah, yeah, And I don't think those actually count
as NFL videos.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That might be is not as long that's exactly what
he's doing with his career. But yeah, man, how could
you not? In braces?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
And I know we've talked about this before, but now
we're getting down to the final thirty two where every
game matters right there, I mean, points actually matter in
their their premium, and I'm really excited for team You're say,
someone was asking me, well, who who was I rooting for? IM?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Like, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Comrade Edwards, so I am rooting for the United States.
It's going to be a tough task because you still
have you know, Spain, that's out there, Portugal and you
have friends, right ye, so uh yeah, it's gonna be
really tough. But well man, how great would it be
if they were able to actually win it all here
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being in the United States?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
That would be great.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
They got another easy one to get we say easy,
they got another easy, say that they've got an opponent
that's not considered a contender in Bosnia, and then it
starts to get a little tougher after that. They typically
with the World Cup, they do try to give the
host uh the easy schedule and the to be fair,
the United States has had the easy schedule so far.
You have Bosni, that'll that'll be uh the easiest of
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the remainders. But then after that it starts to get
a little tough and we'll figure out what this team
team actually But it's fun right now and who knows,
I mean, interest in soccer is is certainly up here
in the United.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
States right now, listen this do this for international fans.
It just wants like a correction. We can't call it soccer.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I'm not calling it football football.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Okay, you may not call it football, but you can
call it football football.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah yeah, foreign football. That's uh yeah, I'm still gonna
call it soccer. But you know it's it's uh. They'll
they'll get used to me one way or the other.
It's been an interesting day. Not a lot of the
NFL stuff going on, but NBA, even though that season
is concluded, it has a lot going on right now.
We saw the Warriors, uh you know, moving on from
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Draymond Green there and or least terminatings contract that may
bring him back on another deal. But I have talked
to some people on the league and they are it
appears to me the Warriors are trying to reunite Lebron
James and Anthony Davis on their Squarethy on the Golden
State Senior Citizens Home as they as they normally do.
That's what the team is a bit old forever, that's
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what they do. They get all the old guys and
bring them in.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Okay, so old. It is such a how to sit.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So it's a relative term. But in terms of NBA.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
But yeah, okay, oh makes it seem like you got
a sixty seven Chevy and it's got the rust on it.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's old.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Let's just say they're really seasoned. This is a really
experienced bunch, right, a lot of NBA years. And listen,
I get it what Draymond is doing. And he's opting
out with the idea of kind of restructuring his deal,
possibly to take less money, which I think is great
when players are willing to do that and sign me up.
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I want to see what it looks like, right, can
you get Anthony Davis from from the Wizards? What are
you gonna have to trade to do that? You may
have to give up maybe a Jimmy Jimmy Butler maybe.
But what does this mean for the Nuggets?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Well, I mean it means you got to old team
in the Golden State Warriors. That'll be uh. I mean
they still got some game though Anthony Davis can still
play when he's healthy. Lebron can can still play. He's
not you know, elite Lebron, but he's still good. They
still got Steph Curry, who was still a sniper from
deep and if they do bring Draymond back, you gotta
watch out for you still gotta watch out for the
dirty fouls, you know, dirty dirty bond Green. But it's
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I mean, you know, for as far as the Nuggets go,
this is interesting because you've got Minnesota and one of
the things I had I hadn't considered when they were
bringing in Ball and kind of blowing the thing up
the way that they were doing. Minnesota's moving to East.
They don't need to be a Nugget killer anymore. They
had to be a Nick killer, right they kill the
New York Knicks. And so if you're if you're retooling
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that team, I sort of get what they're doing now
when I've view it through that lens, because I didn't
initially sort of get it, like why are you committed?
Why are you get rid of as Reed and committing
to Rudy Gobert. But I sort of get what they're
trying to do now we've did we beat that dead
horse hero this show. We both hate Rudy Coop, Rudy
Carbert or whatever his name is. But what I'm saying
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is like, when they initially made that move, I'm looking like,
what are they doing. But I sort of get it
in the sense that you don't have to deal with
the Nuggets anymore the way you would have to. You're
not gonna play them in a series in a playoffs.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Because you beat them with less guys and.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
You're moving to the East anyway, you gotta beat the
Knicks like that's the team you gotta watch out for now, right,
So I sort of get what they're doing. That's why
they went out and got ball. I sort of get
what they were doing. On the other side of things, though,
Golden State like loading up on these guys. I don't
know that that's a nugget killer either. Really, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Say yes it is, even though these guys are older
their experience. Look at what the Nuggets have. The Nuggets
are not a defensive team, and their defense is where
we just going to outscore you, right, what happens when
that gets shut down? And what we saw from Minnesota
when when they played the Nuggets six to c beat.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I think the Nuggs were three seed, but they were constructed.
I mean the Wolves were constructed to beat the Nuggets.
With insider knowledge from a former GM, I get.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
That Tim Colly did a great great job. But like
Jay McDaniel said during the series, he called all the
Nuggets out, basically called them soft. They don't play defense, listen,
And that was one of the things that Michael Malone
had been telling people for so many years, and that's
the thing that got him fired. But the Nuggets are
not that type of team. They're not a gritty team.
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And they can they run and gun, yes, they can
do that, but if you need them to slow people
down defensively, they can't. And then Aaron Gordon's when he's healthy,
he can go, but he hasn't really been that healthy.
So if the Golden State Warriors were to put together
a team like this, from an NFL standpoint, it will
remind me of what less Need did a couple of
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years ago when Von Miller was on the Rams team
and what he's trying to do now with Miles Garrett,
because they say, look, I'm building to win now and
all those players, Anthony Davis, Draymond Green, Lebron James, Steph Curry,
those guys are starting to age out. They have unique
qualities that you can utilize and they're willing to roll
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the dice and push all their chips to the center
to the table and form their all star team.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And there's something I mean you use a for professional
athlete can relate to. You get older, you get smarter.
You know, maybe you lose some of that athleticism. But
if you've got a team with enough guys on it,
they're not going to be able to run and gun.
They're going to lose to running gun teams, right, they'll
run them up and down the court, but they're gonna
beat They're gonna beat the other teams. They're gonna beat
the mid court teams because they're going to be smarter
than them. In addition to the fact that they're talented,
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these guys are better at a collective basketball IQ was
Einstein across the board.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
You know what, Once again, you look at each individual's
guy's skill and you're right, they're all slowing down. But
if they utilize their unique skills together, that changes a lot,
right because even Lebron, mean, in his what twenty third
or whatever year, he's still playing well for a guy
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that his age. So to have pieces around him it
makes it easier. You know, you're taking the stress off
of them. The Nuggets don't have those types of players,
and they have Nikola Jokic. But then let's just say
you got step who can shoot the three, Lebron who
occasionally gets shoot the three, but he still can drive.
He still can get you maybe a double double. Draymond's
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gonna play defense, Anthony's get you some rebounds. That still
would be a tough team to defeat, because, like you said,
while they may be slowing down, they are speeding up
as far as their level of experience and they learn
to play with one another. That would cause a problem
for not just the Denver Nuggets, for a young Spurs team,
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it would cause issues for an OKC team. And the
idea is that you just want to create enough mismatches
right that you could take advantage of. So if this
was to come to fruition, this would be great. But
here's something else now I was concerned about. When you
look at clutch sports, they're representing a lot of players,
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and Rich Paul represents Lebron, A d darn Fox, Zach Levine.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Andrew Mond, Guette Green, and the list goes on.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I'm like, we get a thing of conflict of interest
or how many players are we only like clutch sport
represents to a point where Adam Silver in the NBA
is no longer in control.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, I mean, Rich Paul, Clutchport, they run the NBA.
It's the same thing, like there was a moment there
and now Drew doesn't do it as much anymore, but
there was a moment the where Drew's basically well, you know,
you've seen it in various other Jimmy Sexton running college football.
You know, we've seen it. What's his name's got Boris
running baseball. We've seen over the years some of the
mega agents basically running the sport. And right now, you know,
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clutch Sport certainly does. Now Lebron's on the backside of
the career. I don't know how much longer that goes
unless you know, Rich Paul gets in with something, you know,
one of the younger guys and and you know, rebuilds
around him. But as it sits right now, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
They do.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
They do run that, and that they've been doing that
for a while. The engineered whole thing down in Miami,
the engineered the thing in LA they you know then,
and so that's I mean, I don't know if that's
good for the sport or not.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's not good for the sport.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Overall, it's not. I mean it brings it brings eyeballs
to it when you have sort of these super teams
that they put together themselves, because it brings eyeballs to it.
But in the long run and league wide with parody, no.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
It's not well interesting. It goes back to the Olympics,
and I mean Steph Curry saved the Baker for Team USA.
But Lebron has always wanted to play with Steph Curry, right,
It's always wanted to do it. And I think going
back to that Olympic game and watching those two guys
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play together, you can say they're old. You can say
that the experience, use whatever adje it is to describe
these guys, but that would be deadly to have these
guys on the same team. I know a lot of
teams have tried to build their big three, and a
lot of big threes haven't worked. But knowing as these
guys have had an opportunity to work with each other
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on Team USA gives them a slight advantage and they
know we don't have to run up and down the court.
We're gonna turn turn it into a half court game
and play their game. It reminds me of a low
king Polly when you're watching Seymour Hoffman.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Oh yeah and making it rain. Oh god, half court
offense yep? Does I mean yeah, there's gonna be I
mean they're gonna have to get some young bodies to
come in off the bench and be able to run
in that kind of stuff and figure that out. But
you can sort of see the core if they're able
to pull that off and what they're trying to do. Uh.
Lebron has always been at his best when you had
two guys that can shoot with him and another guy
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that can rebound. You can find you find one guy
that can that can clog up the middle a little
bit and rebound, and two guys that are snipers, and
and that creates something for Lebron.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Well, once again you have the best sniper.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
And Steph curry Y's right, So it would open.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Up the floor for Lebron to get easy layups, even
if for a guy is at his age. So as
a fan, I will love to see this happen.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
The big question does he bring Brownie with him?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
With Rich Paul kind of pulling the strings, I wouldn't
be surprised, but that wouldn't be a great thing though.
I don't want to see that.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
No, you don't want to know. You don't think that,
you know he's carrying his son with him or whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Just like it's just like listen and now I respect it.
You know father's son. If I could, I would do
the same thing. It's like, well, Joannis in Milwaukee, Well
he's got to go, you.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Bet, you bet your backside he's gonna be in Miami.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Uh as a Heat.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Fan, I don't want to see that because you're wasting
a roster spot. You've already done that already. You already
got your your brother in the league, your son in
the league. You got him play that little recognition. Now
it's time to move on.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I'm telling you right now if he is, if that
dude is not in Miami, I will be stunned.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Now, okay, well here's what we're gonna do. We're going
to Washington see what happens in Miami. Right and if
y'all is going to tell pat Rowley because pat Rowley
doesn't like being told what to do, that's rich Paul
and lebron as a reason they're not there that they're
gonna dictate to him, what's gonna happen? I mean, I'm
(13:12):
all for brotherly love. I would do it for my brother,
but at some point, like my mom would say, every
tub's got to stand on.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
His own bottom.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Oh, I'm just saying, I like, would you do it?
And either situation, your son or your brother, would you
do it?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Probably? I would probably already done it already yet I
would probably take care of my family. But I mean
it depends, like, is that roster because who's that roster
not gonna go? Who's the fifteenth roster spot in Miami
gonna go?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
To?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Really, end of the day, do you need that to get?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Know, you can get someone that you are grooming and
you're developing. I mean, Gianni's brother, all due respect, has
been on the Bucks team for a while. Has his
skill set and improved enough to command a ross's spot?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Is he good enough to be your practice guy that
you know can come in there play. If he is,
then but then we do. If he's not good enough
to be that dude that I'm not wasting the washer
spot on him.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
But if he is, I'm just saying, Uh, at some point, man,
you gotta gotta let let him find Man, you gotta
spread your wings.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I mean, are you because Vladislav Golden, that's who's the
fifteenth Rochester spot Right now, you're really telling me that
that's that's who you're, that's what you're. Yes, yeah, he's
the maker, great guy that you can't bring fanasas or
however you pronounce that guys.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Now, Yes, but okay, I know nepotism is a real thing,
right and I get it. That's your brother, that's your blood.
You will to look out for him. But haven't you
done it enough already? Hasn't he done it enough already?
I mean, his brother's been his biggest cheerleader with the
Milwaukee Bucks. Right at some point you have to say, man,
go out there and.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Do your thing.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Vladislav Golden, by the way, last year got in nine
games and he averaged less than a point per game.
He did get into nine total games.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Okay, Now I'm wondering what did yon his brother ud happen.
I would dare to say that it was probably even
less than that, saying okay, well, how many games you
played in?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
How many points do you score?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Even if he actually everaged more points per game? He did, Yes,
he got in thirty four games, and he averaged one
point four points per game, doubling up lad Slot Golders.
Uh ah he uh yeah, there was a fantasist. I believe.
I believe his uh his season high was the twenty
seven minute performance against the six Ers, where he scored
(15:33):
eight points and had six assists.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Man, come on, do that. We can't we can't do that.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I mean, you know, I'm just saying like, it's not
no man, we can't do that. First resident. To his credit,
he's played in two hundred and thirty two games over
his career. He's never averaged more than three point six
a k a game in a season, but he's gotten
into He's got it. A two hundred and thirty two games,
started eleven for his career. He averages about seven minutes.
He's a guy you bring in when you're way up
or way down, you know, and go from there. He's
(16:01):
just that that body at the end of the bench.
I don't know if it keeps Gianni's happy, Like that's
that's what you're looking at though, Listen.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Man, I guess so.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
But I still don't see Pat Rowley just kind of
giving into it because he goes totally opposite of what
Pat Rowley actually stands for.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Man, I can't see it.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Okay, fair thirty seconds here, real quick. But Bronni for
the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I mean, well, okay, I'll take Jiannis's son over Bronnie.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Giannis's brother before you take Bronnie in there. Ye hate
on Bronnie, man, know, Man, I'm just saying Bronny alone.
Bronnie had a couple of games here or there, a
couple he was terrible. He wasn't terrible like he's He
is absolutely a bottom of the roster NBA guy.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
That's the lea.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, we gotta need a break. Broncos Country Tonight backed
after this, Welcome back to it, Broncos Country Tonight. Benjamin L. Bright,
Nickferguson Post Rockies Short Show Edition got another release tomorrow Anddnesday,
Full show Thursday, and then of course we got the
holiday weekend this weekend, fourth of July. Stay safe out there,
(17:05):
it'll Jason Pierre Paul yourself by playing with fireworks when
you shouldn't be. And yes, I said Jason Pierre Paul,
and not Paul, I said Pauw. Not Paul paw Paw.
Jason Pierre Paul Oh yeah, that was. Uh, be careful
out there with the fireworks. There's a lot there's there's
too many horror stories with all this stuff, so just
be be careful with that stuff. Some some news that
(17:27):
I guess sort of ties to Denver. Nine year NBA
veteror Malik Beasley, formerly of the Nugets. It has been
indicted on federal charges for gambling related to a sports
betting scheme such as point shaving prop bets. That was
for his attorney, Steve Haney to ESPN the government's coordinating
and voluntary surrender of Beasley this week. Uh. He did
not appear in the NBA last season, new to the
(17:49):
gambling investigation. Uh, it was reportedly working on a voluntary
surrender here. Former NBA veteror Ed Davis also indicted as
part of the investigation. There's text message is between them
talking about stuff. And there's a couple of oddities with
Malik Beasley. If you go back and look games that
were well within hand or over whatever, and all of
(18:10):
a sudden he's racing out there, shoving guys out of
the way for a rebound or jacking up a three
point shot. You know, those kinds of things. A matter
of fact, one of those rebounds was on the day
John Tay Porter, Michael Porter, Junior's brother got caught for
hitting the unders now Porter was betting on himself for overs.
Was it shaving points or or do that? His was overs?
You know, So it wasn't the cardinal sin, but it
(18:32):
was still betting on yourself and betting on games you're
involved in, but not things where he could control the
outcome from by by messing things up. He would have
to control the outcome by succeeding and not failing. So
that's to me, some people don't view that as different.
I viewed as a little bit different, but still obviously
betting on yourself. Can't do it. Can't bet on games
you're involved in. Camp bet on you know, it's supposed
(18:54):
to be on a sport you're in. And Malik Beasley
and yet another athlete getting getting caught up in the
Beasley reportedly owed millions of dollars in gambling debt, which
led to Ed Davis loaning Beasley money to pay it off,
and then Davis pressuring Beasley to start doing certain things
so that he could get paid back.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Quicker, you know, all of this is it is just
kind of crazy because this is something that I know
Paul Taglable was trying to eliminate from the NFL. That's
why he didn't want the NFL to get involved with
sports books. But guess what, they did it anyway, and
there was so much money out there. You had so
many sports for professional sports leagues deciding to get into
(19:37):
it and thinking like, oh, you know what, our players
are not going to do that, and what are we
seeing time and tom again players on all different levels.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I mean we had the whole Brandes soorsby thing and
nobody'll touch him now, Yeah, no one. He made the
Cardinals said of betting on games. He was involved in
betting the Unders on his teammates.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, and to me, that's that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
And then you know, wanting to sue the NFL because
they didn't want to have the supplemental draft like they
were stopping him, and then just kind of blaming his
addiction as a crutch as to why he should be
looked at differently. No, you didn't, and you shouldn't. I mean,
you violated the rule is a car new sin and
you can't ask someone to kind of let you in
(20:17):
and seeing so many NBA players get caught up and
a lot of these gambling cycles where they're trying to
hit the under, they're trying to hit the over. That
is hurting the integrity of the game. And even when
we watch a game and there's a questionable call, questionable
no call, I don't know about you.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
You know what I the first thing comes to life
on it someone's got money on the game.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I yeah, I mean it's tough. First of all, I
think the thing with Beasley is he was in debt
big time from bad gambling, and that led him to
trying to do things to get right with the people
that he owed money to. And I'm like that, that's
that's step number one. You can't get yourself if you're
losing money, stop doing it. You're not gonna beat your
way out of a hole like you're not gonna be
I can't hold on, I can't stress. And somebody who's
(21:01):
been gambling for gosh twenty five years now, you cannot
bet your way out of a hole. You cannot do it.
And I know there's some idiot out there right now
is listening to me like, oh yeah, I can No,
you can't. You can't bet your way out because what's
going to happen. You've got to get out of the hole,
and you got to keep going, and you gotta bet
yourself right back into it.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
But isn't it that that's kind of the idea of gambling,
because how many gambling sites or there's a gambling advertisement
on the radio, or it's on the billboard and it
has that saying at the end.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
You have a gambling problem called one one hundred whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
They need to just change that. To be honest, you
gotta lose a problem called one eight hundred, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
But that isn't that The gambler's mentality is that I'm
going to gamble, I lose some, I win, some go
up and down like the stock market, right, and I'm
going to I hit big here, I lost big here.
But if I keep doing it over and over again,
that's why you see people. If you go to a casino,
those elderly people sitting there at the slot machine is
constantly pulling because they're thinking, us, what I got to
(22:00):
go back?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
At some point we get back.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, Well, they have algorithms on that, and they're gonna
give you just enough for you to keep going pulling
that lever right. As far as the rest of gaming,
I mean, like it's just like the stock market man
in some ways, and in the sense that you can
find ways to make small uh, to make small amounts
and stack those over time if you're patient. But if
you're one of these people that's out there always doing
parlays and I do them for fun, but like you know,
(22:23):
if you're trying to financially secure your family on it,
it's never gonna happen. It's not.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
And the books know that.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
That's why they make money hand over fish. They're like
they're they're content to let you keep doing it because
they know in the long run they're gonna win. House
is gonna win at at cards, you know. Like it's
it frustrates me to watch this kind of stuff because
I thought, like with the stock market, these people are
am onna like the reason was a SpaceX or whatever.
I'm like, dude, this thing is already overvalued. All these
(22:52):
people that think they're getting rich. The people that are
getting rich are the people that were in before the
I p O like years ago, Like they're the one
your exit liquid for them. Uh. And we saw what happened.
It went up a little bit and then it came
right back down and it's gonna keep going down and
then you know, eventually maybe it'll be worth it. But
it's like to start, you're not You're not gonna bet
your way out of it. You're not gonna trade your
way out of it. You're not gonna, like if you
(23:13):
get it in a hole from gambling, stop gambling and
start paying it off.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
But that is once again, that's the biggest part of
thinking that you can bet your your way out of it.
And it's a I say, it's an addictive personality. And
for people who have addictive personalities, it's best that they
not get involved. But you're thinking because when you think
about Malik Beasley, I think he's made an absorbant amount
(23:39):
of money in his NBA career, you're thinking that you're
not gonna miss it.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
You bounce back, right, You're good, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I'm due. That's that's the biggest mytholo. It's called the
gambled follacy. I'm due for a win. You're not due
for a win. You can keep losing it as possible.
There was a guy you can win a certain number
of times, right it happens. There was a guy at
the Monica one, like the thirty one straight spins on
the on the rule that we want that kind of
luck happens. Well, if that kind of luck happens, that
kind of bad luck can happen too. It's much more
(24:08):
likely that it's not going to hit that many more
times in a row. And so that's that's the thing
I think that that bugs me is I look at
this and these guys they get themselves in trouble and
then they feel like they're going to bet their way
out of it, and it makes the situation worse, so
much worse.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
And in this case with Meik Beasley, when you get
down that big from gambling death and it seems though
it was a massive amount of debt, you become very desperate,
and desperate times called for desperate measures. That's what the
saying goes. I said, it makes people do dumb stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, desperate people do dumb stuff because they're desperate.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yeah, because you're not you're not thinking, you're not thinking,
you're hoping that, hey, I hit here, I balance the books,
balance the ledger, I'm back ahead, and then now you're
thinking at that point, Because I'd like to think that
some people who find themselves in the situation, maybe lower
numbers than Malik Beasley. They they even the ledger right,
(25:04):
And you would think that at that point they would stop,
they would stop.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
They don't.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
But they don't.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
They keep going and that that's it, you know. And
you can see some of these text messages in the
fileing from Beasley. He he got that last rebound with
one point one seconds left to clear, uh, and he
thought he was gonna lose. And you know one of
those things in the group chats all, you know, celebrating
their you know, celebrating that he got it for you know,
that kind of stuff. I mean, I just I feel
bad for the guy. But you like, if you can't
(25:30):
afford to lose the money, don't be wagering in the
first place. I mean, and I say that as somebody
in the interest of full disclosure, who endorses bet three
sixty five. I do the gambling show on Sunday mornings. Uh.
I'm here for responsible betters. And the problem is is
that not always the people who are listening to me,
You're not always responsible. You gotta you gotta police yourself.
Flick on that. I can't babysit you. But what I
(25:52):
will say is is if you if you find yourself
in a situation where you owe a ton of money,
you are not going to bet your way out of it.
You are not. It's not going to happen. But I'll
just I'll spoil the surprise for you. So to stop
doing that and figure out figure out something else. You're
clear you're not capable of doing that anymore, and you've
got to figure that out. And it's like, I don't
have addictive personality. I've seen people with it. It's just
(26:13):
like for me, I'm one of those people that like
if something gets on my nerves or I'll just walk
away from.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
It, I eat it. But not everyone can actually not
matterybody can't. Like it's the thing because people say that's discipline.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Right, People dowell it right, and people talk about social
media water because I was on it a lot all
that kind of stuff, and so like that was one
of those things over last year, like I barely I
don't use social media hardly at all anymore. I get
on there and I'll tweet something, but my social media
usage is down by like eighty seven percent this year,
right because I don't if I didn't have to do
it for this job, I wouldn't have it, Like I
don't have that. Now, I understand. I've got my own vices.
(26:44):
I've got my own things wrong. I thought some I
think everybody knows that some of that's played out in public.
I've got my own vices. But I don't understand addicted person.
So it's tough for me. So like I don't like
I just tell, but just walk away, just stop doing it.
It's like telling a guy whos addicted to food stop eating.
Well he can't, right, So we've got to find a
way to uh with these athletes, find a way to
(27:06):
a educate you about the proftfalls of wagering more than
you can. Don't work.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Don't work.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I mean, Malik Beasley is just the latest guy. Right,
We've heard about Chauncey Billups, so many others, Jones. You
think that, okay, wow, these are big name guys. That
it would be so big that guys would want to
stop because they don't want to find themselves in this.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
It's right. Think about I mean Waza Rique, what happened
to him?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
He lost one entire year, and I say that he
needs to think that happens that he was able to
sustain his career and stay in with the Denver Broncos.
Doesn't happen for everyone else. But you can tell people
all the time, don't do this. You can show them videos,
here's what the outcome could be. But they continue to
(27:55):
press the button, press the button, and thinking, Okay, well
that was them one. I'm not gonna get caught and
it's not gonna happen to me.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Right except you are. It is and you're not. I
don't know why people think they're special, you know, Like
I guess I've been in that situation for I'm not
gonna get caught better, you know, been that.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
But that's the thing, you're thinking that it is not
going to happen to me everyone else, but I'm special.
So I'm hoping that from this situation it's tough it
is for Milie Beasley and his family, that any other
player that sees this, sees the Brandon Sorosby's story, will
look at this and say.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You know what, that's enough for me.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I'm not going to get involved because I don't want
my legacy, my name to be dragged through the mud
in this particular way.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
From from that story to one that is, uh, this
genuinely sad. It's not his own fault. I don't know
if you saw his interview with Chris Johnson c J
two K that Michael strahan Uh did on Good Morning America.
Johnson Chris Johnson has been diagnosed with ALS. That's Luke
Grigg's disease. I got diagnosed last year. That disease has
progressed pretty rapidly. Johnson had to use his eyes to
operate a speech generating device in order to speak to strayhand.
(29:07):
During the interview, he said he wanted to share his
story potentially help others inspire more research on cure of
the disease. He said he first noticed something was off
when he started experiencing weakness in his right hand. His
grip didn't feel right and didn't feel as strong, and
his wife Brittany, initially thought he was dealing with the
after effects of his football career. He was eventually diagnosed
with ALS. Johnson said he was initially told he could
(29:30):
go on medication could extend his life a few months.
He said he and Brittany were told to get our
affairs in order, and it was really hard hearing that.
But Johnson saw an interview with actor Eric Dane also
diagnosed with als last year. On Good Morning America got
in touch with Dane's doctor, tried some experimental treatments that
might help advanced research. Then he said he fell again.
Two choices he can give up, where he can fight.
I chose to fight obviously. The Titans have released some
(29:53):
statements surrounding that. Johnson, a former first round pick out
of ECU back in two thousand and eight, got NFL
started when he became six player in NFL history rush
from ward two thousand yards, broke Marshall Fulkes record for
yards from scrimmage that year with two thousand, five hundred
and nine that is still the record in the NFL,
and gave him a CJ two K nickname four point
(30:13):
twenty five forty guy back at the combine back in
the day. First six seasons of his career was with
the Titans. He eventually played four more seasons of the
Jets and the Cardinals and announced his retirement in two
thousand and eighteen. Johnson joins an unfortunately long list of
former NFL players we diagnosed with als, including Bears Hall
of Famer Stee McMichael, who died of the DC's last year.
(30:34):
Steve Gleason, who announced his diagnosis in twenty eleven. You know,
I wonder, you know, we would it took a long
time to get the CTE link with playing football. I
wonder if there is a link with you know, with
that and als see, now.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
You're bringing up something that there are so many people
who may not want to have that conversation, who may
not want to see that correlation, and because that would
be another damaging blow to the game of football.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Actor Eric Dane.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I remember Eric Dane from the last Bad Boys movies,
but most notable Gray's anatomy and his heartwarming story and
talking to his kid. Man. It was difficult watching that,
as though it was difficult watching Steve Gleason go through it,
and just you know, Chris's video his interview with Michael
(31:31):
Strahant straight hand only made it worse from a player
standpoint and saying Okay, well man, how could this happen?
And if anyone can make or tie football to what
Chris Johnson is going through, that that is going to
(31:53):
really escalate things. So I would dare to say, Ben,
there's someone out there right now trying to make sure
that there isn't a story that's written to say that
they both correlate together.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, some of the als could be genetic. About ten
fifteen percent of cases of genetic and passed down wasn't Yeah,
I don't think it was. Some of it Like military service,
we're at a much much higher risk for als in
the Yeah, Okay, prolonged exposure to certain environmental traits, toxic
particular things like that trauma, repeated head trauma and severe
(32:28):
trauma have been have been studied as possible contributing risk factors.
So that could be something. Now, somebody it messaged me
earlier and they made a mistake. They said that, you know,
look at all the head trauma people and Mhammed Ali,
Ali had Parkinson's not als a difference you know, between
the two. But you know it causes. What al has
does is it causes motor neurons, which are the nerve
(32:50):
cells and the brain and the spinal cord that control
voluntary muscle movement, to deteriorate and die. And scientists believe
it's it's that this does is driven by three different things.
One is excitotoxicity, which is an accumulation of glutamate, which
is a chemical messenger that becomes toxic to nerve cells.
Oxidative stress, which is an imbalance of chemicals in the
(33:10):
body that damages cells, and then protein miss clumping, which
is an ability for the inability of the body to
properly dispose of and manage damage proteins within cells. And
so anytime you got a multi pronged deal like that,
it's it's obviously much more difficult to find air quotes
the cure. We haven't found the cure thus far. And
you know, for Chris Johnson, it was just a sad
and stark reminder of, you know, sometimes the frailty of
(33:33):
the human body.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Well, you know, it's it's tough, man. It's tough to
see anyone go through a situation like that. It's almost
like you're being trapped in your own body and you
can't really get out and you just see videos and
flashes of all these amazing things that you did and
then now you can't really do anything. And another person
(33:55):
who I think about is the White clock. The white
also succumb to his issues with als. It's just something
that needs to be studied more. And now it's something
that I need to look into for myself and say, Okay, well,
when do you start a test, what do you need
(34:16):
to look for?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
And not to say that you know one has anything
to do with the other, but it is best to
know in advance.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
And once again, if you are diagnosed with it, you
can't really do anything to stop it.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Yeah, then so we'll look forward to keeping up with that.
We got to uh, we gotta call it here, but
appreciate you guys being a long for ride. Look forward
to doing it again tomorrow here on Broncos Country Tonight.
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