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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Its all right here with you, the Hall of Famer
(00:02):
Steve Atwater in studio. So it's your world, baby, it's
Chris Smith's world. I'm paying rent to live in it.
And he's back there producing the night. There was taking
of payment Stew payment Stew after that idiot button comment earlier.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I wouldn't do that to everyone, but I knew you, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
He do.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Like we were in the last show, I was talking
about something I said on on the show with Dave
and Ryan a couple of weeks ago, and uh, and
gres like, oh, I've got that audio.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It plays it and it's just me saying I'm an idiot.
I don't know, Are you serious? Why does stuff like that?
It's the only thing I'm trying to figure out. Man.
I think he's great. I love stuff like that. I
love I love to give each other a hard time
most of the time. But ever he gets a shot.
Sometimes you got to humble me too. You know, he's
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right back there with the humble button. That's a hard job,
is you know right? There's not room in this day.
That's why it's only just me, Steve.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
It wasn't room for me, my ego and Steven here
to tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
So that's how we had to do things.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, there we go five six, six, nine zeros of
text lines from NBA news real quick. Here the Dead
Nuggets have traded Michael Porter junior uh to the Nets
for Cam Johnson. They also traded away an unprotected twenty
thirty two draft pick as well. And that, you know,
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is something that we kind of knew was coming. Maybe
not quite this quickly in some cases, but certainly something
that we we thought would be coming.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
They got Cam Johnson back. Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
So Johnson's uh, he's a he's a great movement shooter.
He can shoot off the off the catch, he can
shoot off the dribble. He doesn't give you as much
in terms of rebounding I think as as Michael Porter did.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
But he's a better defender.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Uh and so and he's absolutely like I said, he's
a movement shooter. So that helped create space, not like
Porter who kind of had his spot and he would
get there that he'd you know, catch and shoots. So
I should be helpful. Did Cowboy Bruce coming back as well?
For agent Bruce Brown has agreed to a one year
veteran minimum deal come back to the Nuggets for those
who don't know what veteran minimum deals are there, it's
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a it's a number that's based on your years of experience.
Last year's number, I think for one year was one
point eight and ten plus years was three point three.
But it only counts as two two million against the
cap there. So the Nuggets are under the apron, which
the whole cap gymnastics in the NBA has now gotten
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out of hand like it is.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
You have to have a PhD to figure that stuff out.
But you have an NFL two.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
To me, well, the NFL is to me, is much
more simple than the NBA, and the NBA has to
do with fully guaranteed contracts on top of that, so
there's like golfset type stuff. But in the in the
in the end, the Nuggets are getting Cam Johnson, they
signed Bruce Brown, and they traded away Michael Porter Junior
at a twenty thirty two first round draft picks.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So that's where that stands.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Okay, Steve Lee, you do man? Hey, life is good, man,
Life is good. Yeah, it's chilling. What else is there
to do right now? No football?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Man? Yeah, That's what I'm saying is the doldrums of
summer where there's no full there's not even any spring
league football going all right now, the UFL is over
with spring league football going on.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
But we did the period.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, we did see some action today as the Miami Dolphins, Yeah,
traded Jalen Ramsey and John Smith to the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That's crazy to bring.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Micka Fitzpatrick back to the to the Miami Dolphins. He
was traded away to the Steelers a few years ago.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
They drafted him, right, yeah, yeah, so he's back with.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
The Miami Dolphins now. I wonder how he feels about
that trade.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, you gotta wonder, you know, you gotta gotta wonder
how he feels about going back. I mean, uh, Florida
no state tax, so you know, make a little more money,
I guess off your money. But he certainly was was
happy to be out of Miami the first time he
was out of there.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I guess you know, they're a
little different of you know, quite different team now.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Because the coach wasn't there when he was.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
There first, was right, Yeah, I would imagine he would
get along really well with this coach.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, I mean, you say, Mike mc daniel is a
bit of a you know, a player's coach as far
as that kind of stuff goes. But back when it
makea Fitzpatrick was traded, Brian Flores was the head coach,
uh from for Miami. Patrick Graham was the defensive coordinator.
So it's a little bit different, you know, kind of atmosphere.
They had a different defense back then that they were
uh they were run two. I you know, everybody's talk
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about Steelers getting the better end of this.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Jalen Ramsey is not the same player that he used
to be.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I mean he's you know, he's probably still a baller,
but he's not the same guy that he used to be.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Will he be in the Steelers defense though, because the
Steelers they don't do a ton of man the man.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, they run a lot of his own.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Coverage well, and that'll help him out because he you know,
I mean you watched last year. You can see clearly
lost you know a step I still got the ball skills.
He'll still not afraid to come up and you know,
he'll still come up and hit you and all that
kind of stuff from the quarter position, but not exactly
the same player. I mean, you think j the rams
So you think about those years and you know rams and.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
All that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
He' not not quite the same same player there, Mike
Fitzpatrick versatile chess piece. But you gotta you gotta ask
yourself about Miami's like what are what are they doing?
You move out?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
John new Smith, who you know, that's an Arthur Smith favorite.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
He's been together. They were together in Tennessee back in
the day. I think they spend some time together and
uh in Atlanta. So John new Smith has been a
favorite of Arthur Smith for for quite some time. But
now you look at the depth chart for the Miami
Dolphins and you got Farrell Brown, Julian Hill, Tanner Connor,
Jalen Conyers, and Hayden Rouchie as their tight ends. And
if you're asking who so am, I like, what? Yeah,
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they got an undrafted guy? Uh is their starting tight
end right now? And like most of these guys are not,
you know, have have little to no experience.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
How does Annon Rodgers lietle about that?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I'm talking about the Dolphins because the Dolphins coaching like
they're they're this is a make up break year for
Miami's coaching staff. If they they lose, they don't make
the playoffs. This year, that staff is going to be
cleared out. Uh, they may make additional moves on top
of that. I mean Tua might be gone. You know,
there's there's a lot of moves.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
That could be made after this season if it doesn't
work for Miami. Who you know who.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You got playing playing corner? You got a guy named
storm Duck playing corner.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
That sounds bad?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Uh you know already burns already burns at the nickel.
Cater Cohu, Like there's there's two of these corners.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
You're like, who you don't know who that is? Uh? Huh, Yeah,
you tell me about Steve.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Tell me more about storm Duck, Stormy Duck, tell me
more about storm Duck.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I need to I need to break that. I already
played college played at uh mississ State. See that's what
I'm getting at the hole.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I mean, it's just like, I mean, you got uh
and then uh cater.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Coohoo, who is probably the second most.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Famous player to ever come out of the school he
went to, which is Texas A and m commerce to uh
to Luis Perez who was the quarterback who taught himself
out of play on YouTube and was the bowler and
all that stuff. The Dolphins like you're in a make
or break year at you're trading away assets and it
doesn't feel like you're getting a whole lot back.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
No, they don't. And well, what do you think, I mean,
do you think that they're giving up?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I don't think that. I mean, I don't think they
think they're giving up.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
You know, they think they're putting themselves in position for something,
But I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Now you go look at the Steelers who you got.
Friar Mouth already added Jonny Smith, Dardell Washington was pretty
good as a third tight end last year. He added
Aaron Rodgers, TK Metcalf, Robert Woods. The Steelers feel like
they're trying to load up a little bit on offense
this year, the secondary.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
But how do you feel about Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Though?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I mean, I personally think he's passed.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
You know, the expiration date on the milk has already passed.
But you give it the sniff test to see if
you could pour one more bowl serial out of it,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
But he's better than what they had last week.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
He's better than makes it Rudolph. But I mean, you know,
better than better than justin Field. I don't know that
he's better than Russell Wilson. At this point, he's better
than justin Field. Just Fields, by the way, justin Fields,
just that for you.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Justin Fields.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
In games where opponents score twenty one or more points
is oh and twenty two in his career. Dang, he
has never won a game, won a game in which
your opponent has scored He's played the full game. Yeah,
oh and twenty two. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
He's bad, bad, Like the Jets are going to be
so bad now. When he was with Chicago, he was
terrible there too. I thought it had.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Something to do with the rest of the team around. Yeah,
that's what everybody thought.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And then three teams, four teams later now are all like, oh, yeah, no,
it's him.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Well, I mean the Bears haven't been doing great either.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Well, I got Calin Williams and they got they get
that whole new Ben Johnson and the whole new offense there.
They're gonna see how that works as they upgraded the
offensive line. We'll see how that works out for him.
But yeah, Fields is uh. Theoretically he's going to be
the starter for the New York Jets. This year and
that Wow, talk to Aaron Rodgers is he and Aaron
Rodgers places?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
How would you be feeling though as a Steelers fan
right now? I mean from everyone I talked to that
as a Steelers fan. Minka Fitzpatrick was a fan favorite. Yeah,
I loved him. Yes, and now you're throwing it all
away for one year with Aaron Rodgers. He said already
that this is probably it and you're getting an older
Jalen Ramsey plus John news Smith when you already have
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one of the best tight ends in the league in
Friar move although fire move let that ball go right
between his hands?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
In their season? He did you know? I mean I
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Your corners are Darius Slay and Jayla Ramsey and like
four years ago, that would have been exciting all Pro
four years ago, Wow, we got some corners. Now you're
kind of like, well, that is an old corner group.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Do you think they'll go after them? I mean I
would like, what are you going to run? You know,
I got Arrell Austin's or DC, Like, what are you
going to run? Are on Tampa too?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Because it kind of feels like op at three kind
of feels like you have to.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
With those guys.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Uh, you know, with those corners, and they're crafty, steal
though they're crafty.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
They've been have the same speed.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
But many times, especially great cornerbacks, as they get.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Older, Yeah, he gets smarter, right, doing it way smarter.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
And they're a step ahead of a lot of quarterbacks,
especially man quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well, and you know, and that's that's something to keep
your eye on. But they got Joey Porter Junior is
one of the corners, so they they do have one
guy that's you know, this younger. The rest of those
corners are just kind of just guys. And uh, they
brought in wan thorn Hill at the safety position. He
wasn't very good in Cleveland. Now he's he's over here.
He's gonna be your starting free to shot. Elliott's your
strong safety. He's okay, I like one thrown Hill it
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was He's all right. I mean, the linebacking corp is
still pretty good. Alice high Smith, Patrick Queen Peyton Watson
and t. J. Watt. That's a pretty good linebacking corp.
Then you know the big bodies up front. They got
Cam Hayward and Derek Harmon and Kettle been their their
front seven looks good. It's that back end that's a
gigantic question mark. Like they got some you know, they
got some age in the secondary. And I'm like, did
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did Darius Slag and Jalen Red they come with a
free wheelchair?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Like do those guys?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
You guys have to serve team meals dinner at three pm,
like at the Bob Evans so they can hit their
meal bird specially. I'm just saying it, like they got
a few years on them, you know, and that's year
Jalen's tenth year, eleventh year. I'd have to go back
and look at Sleigh is Slay's thirty four if I'm
not mistaken, and I think Ramsey is thirty.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Thirty one somewhe right there.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I'd have to This is a I'm not a hundred
slaves either this he's going into his thirteenth or he's
played thirty.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, he's he's slave's been around forever, y, Jalen Ramsey's
been around almost forever. You know, God said let there
be like daily Darius Slagy flipped on the switch and
Jalen Ramsey was there to see it.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
So I'm just.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Terrible. I'm a terrible person five six six nine ers
in texts. I had a few texts come in here. Well,
somebody said, why would Bruce Brown sign for the veteran
minimum after making forty five million the previous two years.
That's why that money that he's getting is already guaranteed
from Minneapolis. It's like when Russ signed for veteran minimum
with the Pittsburgh Steelers, the money that he was already
getting was guaranteed, was already coming in. So he signed
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for the vet minimum because Denver's where he wanted to be,
and still he skied the same amount of money either way,
So it does not actually matter.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Three h three. Why does Jaala Ramsay keep getting traded?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Well, I'll tell you it's for the same reason anybody
gets traded.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
They don't think you're good enough to be doing what
they want to do, and they feel like they can
get better if they moved them.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah, and a lot of teams that you haven't played
for yet. You know, they don't really know what you're
like in the locker room. They don't know all those
good things. I would imagine if he was a leader
in the locker room, they would they would want to
keep him around now.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I don't really know what he's like. He maybe he maybe.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I mean, I've never heard anybody's he's a bad teammate,
but you know, there's he didn't get along with Vic
when fans, Yeah, he.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Was one of the people calling him out.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Now, I think Vic got the last laugh, is uh uh.
He went to Philly and all of a sudden they
had an absolutely ridiculous defense. But you know, I think, uh,
I think Jalen Ramsey got used to maybe that more
relaxed atmosphere he had out there in LA and you
know that kind of thing. I think he's I think
he kind of is at that point. I think he's
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also at that point in his career where he's clearly lost,
you know, half a step and it's you kind of
and you can speak to this better than me, obviously,
But is there a point in your career in pro
football you get to the point where you're kind of like,
all right, we've.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Been there, we climbed them out, and you know all
this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I'm not saying you're mailing it in, but is there
a point where it gets easier as you get older?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
You're like, I don't know if I want to go
through the hassle of this again, not.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Really, not really because as you get older. You know,
fortunately most teams they will try to preserve you some
during training camp in that, but once the regular season starts,
say they they're counting on you to play, yeah, and
they want you on the field. Now, you may not
practice every practice. You know, Coachy'll give you some some
days off of practice too, but they're they're counting on you,
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and that's not a time where you can let up.
And it's much more difficult as you get older, too,
because you know, nobody didn't move the same, doesn't feel
the same. It's you know, ches and pains and places
you didn't have makes and pains when you were younger.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, I just I think there's maybe it's not you,
but I think there's an attitude with some of the
current generation that they're just like, I don't have to
put up with this anymore. I don't you remember when, well,
it's at Vante Davis retired in the middle of a game.
That's Totyo Brown. I'm not going to count him because
he's a nut case anyway, but they just like, I
don't have a passion anymore, Like I just don't.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I don't have it.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
You know, guys get into training camp sometimes a couple
of days like wait a minute, this ain't me anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah, And that's that's happened to Sherebrick. I remember when
I was in college. Uh, the guy who he went
down there as a quarterback with me. Uh, we both
went down aquarterbacks. We didn't leave theirs quarterbacks. But I
remember after his first year he said he came to
they say, man, I don't want I don't want to
do this anymore. Yeah, And I was like, what, you
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don't want to do it anymore? And he shut it down,
and you know, went on had a successful career doing real.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Estate and that.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
But I've seen people lose the passion for the game.
And you can happen at any time. It could happen
year one.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I've seen guys come in as rookies in it like
a man, I've had enough of this. I played high school,
I played little league, I played college.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I'm done. Yeah. We've seen what was the money? Sometime
the money isn't enough, Oh man? What was he was?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Money?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
The team the team worked, the the the team environment.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Sometimes it's just not enough. The I'm trying to think
of his name now, I blanken.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
The Niners had a linebacker a couple of years ago,
played one season, then he just retired, just wasn't there anyway.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Was named Chris Portland.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know, he was a guy they took him in
the third round, you know, all this kind of stuff,
and yeah, he he.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Uh he just he got in there.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And it's I say, a few years ago, might have
been like a decade ago at this point, but he was.
He was there for a season and then he just
didn't want to do it anymore. Yeah, he just wasn't
It wasn't there anymore. And I I mean, I guess
I get it. If you're not passionate about something, go
for it. I I can't relate to that because, like,
I'm so addicted to this game. Here I am with
the microphone, trying to do anything I can to cling to,
you know, to the diploma.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Imagine, how do you not want to play football? Right?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
And so that's you know, that's one of those things
like how would you not want? But you know, hey,
te shir oh happens.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Man, I've seen it time and time again, and like
I used to tell my kids when they were coming.
I was like, look, man, if you don't love this,
don't do it, because you gotta love this in order
to get up and make the sacrifice that it takes
to play.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
This game and be good. Yeah, you got you got
to make some serious sacrifices. Yeah, and the I.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Mean, yeah, you do your time, your body or you know,
all all that kind of stuff. There's there's a lot
that goes into into that stuff, and I guess it
gets to the where other people have other things they're
more passionate about than again, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, yeah for me, let's say, I couldn't this all.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
This is all I had maybe probably one of the
you know, this most extreme example, but Pat Tillman, you know,
one day he got up and he was like, you
know what, I'm more passionate about going doing this for
my country and all that kind of stuff. And I
don't want to get too much into what happened to Pat,
because you know, I know some of those guys, but yeah,
it's there are there are moments where, with anything in life,
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we get to the point where we're like, you know what,
the same me anymore. You know, I sold my company
when I was you know, I was an it guy
my entire life, like I you know, I mean it
was it for the you know, in the military.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I did it, you know, contracting for the government.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Afterward, I started my own company and and built that
up and ended up selling I just like, this just
isn't mean I'm tired of doing this. It just isn't
me anymore, you know, not that you know, it is
something to get super passionate about, though I'm sure there
are people that are, but I like, for me, but.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I would imagine that in any field or in any endeavor,
people can be great. They can have passion about it,
just the same way that athletes, you know, feel about football.
I mean, you know, they may not be able to
relate to one another. But I know people who are
in business who are super passionate about it.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Oh yeah, you know, I know people in radio. You're
like that, well, you like that passion is a is
a strong word. Enjoying myself it pays the bills, Yeah yeah, yeah,
but hey, everybody doesn't do that way though.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
That's true for me, Like, I love the game of football,
and I had a body that did not allow me
to play it beyond a certain point, you know, and
then you know, in addition to lack of talent and
many other things, but I got to the point where,
you know, like I got this opportunity, like this is
the way I can hang on. This is the way
I can be around that thing that I love doing
and I always loved, you know for me, like locker
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room culture, Like the locker room that they is pretty core.
The camaraderie I had that. I got my fix to
that when I was in the army. Yeah, you know
that's what I got out. I need that, right, So
that was the thing. So now I've got this company
and I'm like, you know what, this is what I
actually miss and so you know, I wound up back here.
This is the closest I get to that. Now there
is a there's a sense of that around.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You know that Old're coming for about twenty billion, but
you know, oh doing with you don't know what you
want to do.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Look, I'm just I'm just hanging out. I don't even know,
you know, I don't even know a bitcoin is how much?
Talking about five sixty nine zeros of text. I got
a bunch of questions roll and we'll get to some
of those.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
When we come back.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
We got to hit a break Yessen to broakfast Country
night right here on Kaway. Porter Junior traded for Cam Johnson,
a quarter junior in a thirty twenty thirty two first
router for Cam Johnson of the Nets and the Nuggets,
also signing Bruce Brown back on a veteran minimum deal,
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Cowboy Bruce Back. And he's already posting up on in
the Instagram some of the Cowboy Bruce stuff.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
He was at some of the Nuggets playoffs games. Yeah,
he was Okay. So I'll tell you this is the
reason I've been talking about this for a couple of months.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
When Orlando Franklin, who is on the k Sports sometimes.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Was down there in Miami graduating. He just went back
and got his degree.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
When he was he was down there, Bruce Brown was
down there graduating two and so Orlando was graduating too. Yeah,
And so Orlando and Bruce were like chat and Bruce
wanted to come back here. So there was a little
bit of recruiting middle manning there trying to get him
to come by. Hey, man, if you take the better minimum,
we'll probably get you back here. So anyway, I'm glad
all that ended up ended up right out. But that's
that's part of the reason we've been hitting at that
one for uh for while. Bruce was you know, made
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it pretty obviously want to be back then or obviously
back here for the playoff games, you know, and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
He enjoyed his time here, so we'll see. She always
got left in the tank. And when they spend time
in Denver. Man, it's hard to it's hard to get
Denver out of your system.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I mean, honestly, I moved out here for a girl.
We split a couple of weeks after I got here
and Ice State. She left High State, and her family
was the ones that we were here. Family, the ones
who were.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Here I stayed.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
First time I came out to Colorado. I was gonna
do a big West coast swing after my stop Denver
and go up and see some friends in Seattle. Never
left him my friend's couch for three weeks. Are over
here six months later, Seattle still wait.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
By grant you coming by for you man up to
unit yeah, man.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Five six six zeros of text line.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Let's see Brian, Steve Foley and Louis Wright walked away
from the Broncos on their own in nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Mmmm, it's about retired.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Talk about walking away from the game on their own
instead of you know.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yeah, yeah, it's a blessing when you can do that,
and well you've been with Look, they they only played
with the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
They ain't played with any other team, not that I
r I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, yeah, that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Fully might have, but I don't know. Louis Wright didn't. Yeah,
it's I mean it is, well, you could call your
own you know, when you can do that.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah, Man, to play long enough to where you're like, okay, man,
I've had enough and you can retire right where you started. Man,
it's hey, most people don't get a chance to experience that,
but those that do, I would imagine this is really special.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah. Fully, uh he was in Denver's whole career.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
He started off as a corner and then made the
switch to the switch to safety hands.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
He's not dropping anything.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Kind of wondering if maybe Jalen Ramsey might, you know,
if the corner thing doesn't worry if he if it
really has lost the step, maybe maybe he, you know,
might move to move back to the same condition I
mean it's like a safety.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
He definitely could, that would be Uh. He has he
has the size, he's got he's got the.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
He's got the body for it.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah yeah, I mean he's he's just bigger than the
almost corner folds by the way, forty four interceptions of
course of his career man, forty four interceptions, hey man.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
And he's one heck of a guy. Man, And that
was missing the whole nineteen eighty two season, by the
way too. That's crazy forty four dead yeah, because they
weren't the ball like.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
That now Now you're throwing the ball, you know, forty
fifty times a game, Daniel Lucky you got fifteen eighteen.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
You know, and how many of them coming to your side? Yeah? Yeah, man,
great player, man, really better guy? Yeah? Who was? Was
he one of the best guys yet?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I mean obviously you always speak highly of Dennis, You
always speak highly, you know, I mean like with those
those were the guys when uh, you know, as far
as is mentoring you or any of that kind of
stuff or.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah, well, Steve, he wasn't coming around as much back then.
I think he was working in his business and that.
But as the years have gone by, and he's come
around a lot more. And you know, I wasn't living
here for several years after I finished playing, but during
my playing days, yet I didn't I didn't see Steve
a ton, but I knew who he was, and you know,
(23:44):
we knew each other. You know, I always had a
ton of respect for him and we always got along great.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
You did move away for a while because you were
down to Georgia, I think it was or Maryland or
you know maybe what those Yeah, okay, but I what
was the call back that? That was it like I
missed Denver and I want to come.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Back or uh, it was some of that.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Also, we like we we had a conversation with our
kids because they were uh fishing up college and that,
and We're like, hey, and we were in Maryland, and
I'm like, we're not standing out here the crowd.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I don't wanny more of your plans come out.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Although hey has some great relationships messing with very people
out there. But I couldn't stay. I couldn't stay man
and and we we had a conversation with them and
we asked them, hey, where do you guys want to
be when where you guys think you'll settle down, and
they all.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Wanted to come back to Colorado.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
And my wife and I we you know, we had
that in the back of our minds too, but for
them to say that, that just made it.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, it made it made it a much easier choice.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, I'm aways curious because like some guys, you know,
they go somewhere else and they come back and all
that kind of stuff. And that is one of those
things that Colorado is such a I don't want say
it's a transplant state, but I mean in a lot
of ways, it's different because you got drafted by a
Colorado team, so you.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Were you know, you had to come out here.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
But like people come out and it's one of those
things you come.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Out here and you just your phone. Man. Yeah, this
is nice.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
For Miles and Miles and Miles, well, you said a
lot different reputation where I grew up the same than
what it actually is.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
So I sold. I was living in Tampa when I
came out here, right.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I sold my boat, which of course is a good move.
I sold my motorcycle.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Because I thought it was gonna be snowy all the time.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I was like, I have use for you know, this
kind of stuff, and you know, there's not a lot
of places to take a boat out here, so that's fine.
But I sold my my motorcycle, saw my boat, all
that had stuff. I came out here, and then I
got out here like ITU's three hundred das. So I
could have ridden, you know, yeah, I could have. I
could have kept that thing and ridden.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
All the time to get in Rick lewis as motorcycle game.
That's man, okay. So yeah, and he keeps telling me,
he's always trying to.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Like, yeah, you know, they get this for sale over here,
and I'm like, yeah, you know, not right now, because
then I do that. That's what it was spent all
my time doing, you know, right, Yeah, ride the bike.
They get all these great places to ride out here
in Colorado. You know, it's just fun like that.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
We had on our ninety eight ninety nine teams. We
had a group of guys that man, they would you know,
those motorcycles and ride all over the place.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I think Big Owls a part of that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, I'm like, man, I'm not getting on a motorcycle. Yeah,
I have you messed never getting on a motorcyca. No,
there's a lot of but there's no I don't. There's
no single greater.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Vehicle that exudes freedom I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
But nobody's gonna ask people get skinned up. Well, okay, fair,
I'm just saying I thought.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
This one dude when I lived in Maryland.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Boy, yeah, man, he was getting he's getting rehab, you know,
rehabbing from a motorcycle accident.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
He was, man, he was, he was, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
It's just one of those things like nobody's gonna nobody
ever ask anything from you. No one's looking for a
ride if you're on a motorcycle and anybody's just looking
for nobody's looking for a ride. Nobody's looking for you
to help move. If you got a bite, nobody's trying
to get you to help move.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I'm just saying, like.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
It said, it's the purest form of like freedom, which okay,
real quick.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
So most people, well I don't think most people.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
But before I went to ERECT, the first time I
thought high school that what I was doing. I did
that for almost one year. That was it, And there's
no way you could make a living. Bless you to
all teachers, because that those paychecks were extremely light.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
But I had this thing I hated to do.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I had to put my car in the shop, and
my buddy Brandon had his, you know, his bike or whatever.
And so I'm over to high school getting prepped for
the school dance that they're doing there. It was the
fall day, his homecoming or whatever, I don't know. Home
It did so decorating because all the teachers got to
help decorate this. And I was like, hey, man, can
I geta lif from you later I gotta go pick
my car up or whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
This dude showed up with his motorcycle.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Oh yeah, we're talking deep sound. I gotta set on
the back of that thing. You know what I did
not I'm sitting there like, no, just I'm just point
just leave. You've gotta leave right now. He's laughing the
whole He's laughing the whole way.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
No one knew.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
And what he was going to do the whole time
for me in front of in front of my students,
you know, tacking me up on the back of a motorcycle.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Or I got to see it when you said, when
you said that there's no better sense of freedom than
riding a motorcycle. There's nothing more emasculating than riding on
the back of the man.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Oh, yes, that's a good point. Where did you put
your hands at that? I'm grapped. I'm gripping the back,
you know, like this as far back as I can.
I wanted to put my hands around his neck for
showing up there with that.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Oh man, oh my goodness. Uh is that when you
fell in love with it?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Though?
Speaker 1 (28:16):
No, I loved motorcycle before that. I just thought he
was gonna show up his car, And like he knew
the whole time that he was, because we, you know,
prank each other and all that kind of stuff, and
he knew the whole time exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
What he's gonna have. And I'm like, man, you words
I can't say on the air. Oh it was. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Five six six nine zeros in text I eight o
one says up in I like Stacy from Utah, saying they.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Live vicariously through you, Dave and Steve.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
By listening to KOA and going to Broncos games season
ticket older There we Go. Football ended in Montrose, Colorado,
fall of nineteen eighty six the Montrose Indians with the
loss to the Sierra Stallions forty two to forty one
in the playoffs. Man a one point playoff lies to
end the football program.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Oh, I had to hurt, that had to hurt. That's
got to stick with you. Man.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Man, let's just kick a field goal. Let's try an attempt.
Oh my god. Yeah, I can't even imagine. Yeah, that's
like the US made a petition. Look man, look we're
going we're shutting down the program.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Let's just kid. Yeah, we just gotta get a good
one man, let's do something.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Playoff loss by one Oh man, that's things. Oh I
can't he can't quit on it. He can't end it
on a on a loss though. Nah, I feel I
feel for them. I feel for the one that was
the Hall of Famer Grant Smith. Back there producing what
else we.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Got here on the text?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Somebody asked if Dion could have played safety. No, Deon
Sanders was not a safety. You didn't want to tackle,
you know what.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I heard somebody say that he plays some safety at
some point. Uh, but he was so good at corner
he didn't even play safety.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, I can't imagine.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
And cornerbacks are generally better athletes than safeties anyway, you know.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, but I mean, plus his soul, you know, he
didn't want to I wanted to go after the interceptions
and all that, but he.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Want to really tackle. They I wouldn't mad at cornerback.
They didn't want to tackle. You can cover?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
You want to tackle? Mean you covered that fair enough? Yeah? Yeah,
I I six nine erald of text line we got.
Let's see here, somebody's asking if I could say I'm
a Michael Bolton fan tonight.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Well, I celebrate the band's entire catalog. It's a line
from a movie. What do you ever watch? Office Space? Uh? No, who?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
The guy's name is Michael Bolton and they're okay where
they're doing like this review or interview or interviewing him
to keep his job kind of thing, and uh, it's like, look,
who do we have your Mike?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Mike Michael Bolton, you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
And yeah, so the guy's like talking to his friends,
He's like, where's that name of problem? He's like, it
wasn't a problem, so that no talent bleep clown started
winning Grammys and then everybody want to say because he
had the same.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Name, you know. Yeah, So it's just it's a bit
from uh it's a bit from a movie.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
But we do that on here occasional Broncos got some
camp battles coming up here training camp safety room. Man,
got you gonna figure out who that third safety is.
PJ has been hurt? Uh, grow up?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah man, Jel Skinner you know, yell DJ yeah, turn
yell some good battles. Who do you think is gonna
gonna step out to the front.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
PJ is healthy, I think it'll be PJ. If it's not,
you know, if it's not him, then we start to
get into some questions.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Say, if he's not healthy, if at what point if camp,
Oh you into camp, you're done.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
You gotta be be ready. Yeah, you can be ready
for camp.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Man, Pj's gotta be ready for camp after that key probably.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
You know, I know that there's obviously you've got.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Skinner, got Skinner, got de Lawn Turner, Yell Skinner Turner, Yell.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
They get the Keeterrian Smith guy. Didn't we sign We
signed somebody who was the Sam Franklin Yeah, right right right, BDFA.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I just you know after who FuG gett Jones?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
You gotta have somebody back there that's reliable because he
get his head, some injury, his stuff, and so you
need somebody back there RELYA Well, PJ started you know,
a number of games last year, most of them you'd
hope that he could be the third safety in that rotation.
But if he's not healthy, then we start to ask
some question marks. You know, key, I think and Skinner
probably the leaders in the clubhouse, the.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Large and THEO.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
He got some good run before he he heard.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
His u leg Yeah, I mean that's you know, but
I mean at this point, you know, it's it's tough
because you got a bunch of guys who don't have
a ton of experience. He got a little bit of run.
I mean totally us had a little bit run. But
the tape on those guys wasn't exactly light in the
world on fire. In fact, you might want to light
that tape on fire.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
It's Skinner's been mostly a special teams guy, like you thought,
his size, his ferocity, you know, those.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Kinds of things. If he could pick up the playbook.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
But it's a little surprising that he hasn't hasn't hasn't
jumped onto the scene a little bit more. But hey,
you who knows, Maybe maybe this is this is his year,
but he's got to make a jump soon.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
He does the other side of that somebody's got to
make a jump is in that inside back of room.
I mean you brought into a green Law and Alex
Singleton coming back off injury. But again green Law tweeked
himself get it ready for camp, but he tweets himself
this offseason coming back off an injury. Singleton's coming back
off an injury, start k nods coming back off injury.
And you got Drew Sanders who just hasn't quite put
it all together at the position yet.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
All phenomenal athlete, but just has not put it together.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Man, if he can, if he can put it together, bro,
that position is going to be one.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Of our strengths. It would be nice to see that.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I at that point because this is the That's the
one I have the biggest question mark about anytime you
got your top three guys coming back off injury, even
if you do have you know, experience there that that's
a giant question mark. And Sanders again that you know,
he just he's been moving around inside is the outside?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Is the inside? Is the outside? Well he's inside.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Now he's inside, and they got to figure out, you know,
they got to figure out a way to get him,
you know, especially going sideline to sideline away from the
ball like he's good downhill. He comes from that. He understands,
you know how to rush the passer. But how do
you how do you you know? How do you stack
and shed? How do you how do you you know,
work off those blocks and go sideline the sideline to
be able to to you know, to get the running back.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
How you go away from the ball and come. I've
seen him do that, man, I've seen him do that.
I'm not not at this level. I've seen him in
college do that.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Man. He did.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
He did everything at an exceptional level when he was
at at at Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Man, you got a tough division with tight ends and this.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
You know, you got Travis Kelsey, who, although he's lost
his step, is pretty crafty. You got Brock Powers who
might be one of the most athletic guys in the lead.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
But the thing is he can run with those guys too.
He can run with them. I mean a straight line. Yeah,
they throw a double moves in there. Your ankles and knees.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Look like jelly, but get them hands on them.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I'm just the You gotta figure. He's got to figure somebody.
He's got to put it together. And then you know,
I think we were pretty deep in the corner room,
like we are. We are pretty deep in the corner.
Are deep deep? I think that's gonna cost some questions
this year. You know, mcmillion's moving back behind Jade Baron.
He'll probably stay, you know, on the slot. But you've
got you drafted Chris Adm's train.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You got a guy like Tamary.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Mathis who's had a couple of years, and you know
you're gonna have to show something at this point. It
kind of makes you wonder if Mathis is a guy
that's who has started games, is in line to even
make the roster?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, you know what, I.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Think a lot would depend on guys who's healthy and
who's available during during during training, and obviously who who
plays the best, right, But if everybody's healthy, man, it's
that's it's gonna be a lot of competition in that room.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
It's a lot better problem to have of like, oh God,
who are we going to cut than oh God, who
are we going to have to back up?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
And that's that's the way. I think that's a good
problem I have. I take that problem any day, oh.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, and every day and twice on Sundays, which hopefully
love you.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Steve. It's been great, as always, always my friend. Good
to see you, appreciate you brought his country dight back
after this
Its all right here with you, the Hall of Famer
(00:02):
Steve Atwater in studio. So it's your world, baby, it's
Chris Smith's world. I'm paying rent to live in it.
And he's back there producing the night. There was taking
of payment Stew payment Stew after that idiot button comment earlier.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I wouldn't do that to everyone, but I knew you, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
He do.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Like we were in the last show, I was talking
about something I said on on the show with Dave
and Ryan a couple of weeks ago, and uh, and
gres like, oh, I've got that audio.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It plays it and it's just me saying I'm an idiot.
I don't know, Are you serious? Why does stuff like that?
It's the only thing I'm trying to figure out. Man.
I think he's great. I love stuff like that. I
love I love to give each other a hard time
most of the time. But ever he gets a shot.
Sometimes you got to humble me too. You know, he's
(00:48):
right back there with the humble button. That's a hard job,
is you know right? There's not room in this day.
That's why it's only just me, Steve.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
It wasn't room for me, my ego and Steven here
to tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
So that's how we had to do things.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, there we go five six, six, nine zeros of
text lines from NBA news real quick. Here the Dead
Nuggets have traded Michael Porter junior uh to the Nets
for Cam Johnson. They also traded away an unprotected twenty
thirty two draft pick as well. And that, you know,
(01:20):
is something that we kind of knew was coming. Maybe
not quite this quickly in some cases, but certainly something
that we we thought would be coming.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
They got Cam Johnson back. Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
So Johnson's uh, he's a he's a great movement shooter.
He can shoot off the off the catch, he can
shoot off the dribble. He doesn't give you as much
in terms of rebounding I think as as Michael Porter did.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
But he's a better defender.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Uh and so and he's absolutely like I said, he's
a movement shooter. So that helped create space, not like
Porter who kind of had his spot and he would
get there that he'd you know, catch and shoots. So
I should be helpful. Did Cowboy Bruce coming back as well?
For agent Bruce Brown has agreed to a one year
veteran minimum deal come back to the Nuggets for those
who don't know what veteran minimum deals are there, it's
(02:04):
a it's a number that's based on your years of experience.
Last year's number, I think for one year was one
point eight and ten plus years was three point three.
But it only counts as two two million against the
cap there. So the Nuggets are under the apron, which
the whole cap gymnastics in the NBA has now gotten
(02:26):
out of hand like it is.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
You have to have a PhD to figure that stuff out.
But you have an NFL two.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
To me, well, the NFL is to me, is much
more simple than the NBA, and the NBA has to
do with fully guaranteed contracts on top of that, so
there's like golfset type stuff. But in the in the
in the end, the Nuggets are getting Cam Johnson, they
signed Bruce Brown, and they traded away Michael Porter Junior
at a twenty thirty two first round draft picks.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So that's where that stands.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Okay, Steve Lee, you do man? Hey, life is good, man,
Life is good. Yeah, it's chilling. What else is there
to do right now? No football?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Man? Yeah, That's what I'm saying is the doldrums of
summer where there's no full there's not even any spring
league football going all right now, the UFL is over
with spring league football going on.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
But we did the period.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, we did see some action today as the Miami Dolphins, Yeah,
traded Jalen Ramsey and John Smith to the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That's crazy to bring.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Micka Fitzpatrick back to the to the Miami Dolphins. He
was traded away to the Steelers a few years ago.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
They drafted him, right, yeah, yeah, so he's back with.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
The Miami Dolphins now. I wonder how he feels about
that trade.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, you gotta wonder, you know, you gotta gotta wonder
how he feels about going back. I mean, uh, Florida
no state tax, so you know, make a little more money,
I guess off your money. But he certainly was was
happy to be out of Miami the first time he
was out of there.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I guess you know, they're a
little different of you know, quite different team now.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Because the coach wasn't there when he was.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
There first, was right, Yeah, I would imagine he would
get along really well with this coach.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, I mean, you say, Mike mc daniel is a
bit of a you know, a player's coach as far
as that kind of stuff goes. But back when it
makea Fitzpatrick was traded, Brian Flores was the head coach,
uh from for Miami. Patrick Graham was the defensive coordinator.
So it's a little bit different, you know, kind of atmosphere.
They had a different defense back then that they were
uh they were run two. I you know, everybody's talk
(04:27):
about Steelers getting the better end of this.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Jalen Ramsey is not the same player that he used
to be.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I mean he's you know, he's probably still a baller,
but he's not the same guy that he used to be.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Will he be in the Steelers defense though, because the
Steelers they don't do a ton of man the man.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, they run a lot of his own.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Coverage well, and that'll help him out because he you know,
I mean you watched last year. You can see clearly
lost you know a step I still got the ball skills.
He'll still not afraid to come up and you know,
he'll still come up and hit you and all that
kind of stuff from the quarter position, but not exactly
the same player. I mean, you think j the rams
So you think about those years and you know rams and.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
All that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
He' not not quite the same same player there, Mike
Fitzpatrick versatile chess piece. But you gotta you gotta ask
yourself about Miami's like what are what are they doing?
You move out?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
John new Smith, who you know, that's an Arthur Smith favorite.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
He's been together. They were together in Tennessee back in
the day. I think they spend some time together and
uh in Atlanta. So John new Smith has been a
favorite of Arthur Smith for for quite some time. But
now you look at the depth chart for the Miami
Dolphins and you got Farrell Brown, Julian Hill, Tanner Connor,
Jalen Conyers, and Hayden Rouchie as their tight ends. And
if you're asking who so am, I like, what? Yeah,
(05:40):
they got an undrafted guy? Uh is their starting tight
end right now? And like most of these guys are not,
you know, have have little to no experience.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
How does Annon Rodgers lietle about that?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I'm talking about the Dolphins because the Dolphins coaching like
they're they're this is a make up break year for
Miami's coaching staff. If they they lose, they don't make
the playoffs. This year, that staff is going to be
cleared out. Uh, they may make additional moves on top
of that. I mean Tua might be gone. You know,
there's there's a lot of moves.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
That could be made after this season if it doesn't
work for Miami. Who you know who.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You got playing playing corner? You got a guy named
storm Duck playing corner.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
That sounds bad?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Uh you know already burns already burns at the nickel.
Cater Cohu, Like there's there's two of these corners.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
You're like, who you don't know who that is? Uh? Huh, Yeah,
you tell me about Steve.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Tell me more about storm Duck, Stormy Duck, tell me
more about storm Duck.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I need to I need to break that. I already
played college played at uh mississ State. See that's what
I'm getting at the hole.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I mean, it's just like, I mean, you got uh
and then uh cater.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Coohoo, who is probably the second most.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Famous player to ever come out of the school he
went to, which is Texas A and m commerce to uh
to Luis Perez who was the quarterback who taught himself
out of play on YouTube and was the bowler and
all that stuff. The Dolphins like you're in a make
or break year at you're trading away assets and it
doesn't feel like you're getting a whole lot back.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
No, they don't. And well, what do you think, I mean,
do you think that they're giving up?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I don't think that. I mean, I don't think they
think they're giving up.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
You know, they think they're putting themselves in position for something,
But I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Now you go look at the Steelers who you got.
Friar Mouth already added Jonny Smith, Dardell Washington was pretty
good as a third tight end last year. He added
Aaron Rodgers, TK Metcalf, Robert Woods. The Steelers feel like
they're trying to load up a little bit on offense
this year, the secondary.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
But how do you feel about Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Though?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I mean, I personally think he's passed.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
You know, the expiration date on the milk has already passed.
But you give it the sniff test to see if
you could pour one more bowl serial out of it,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
But he's better than what they had last week.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
He's better than makes it Rudolph. But I mean, you know,
better than better than justin Field. I don't know that
he's better than Russell Wilson. At this point, he's better
than justin Field. Just Fields, by the way, justin Fields,
just that for you.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Justin Fields.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
In games where opponents score twenty one or more points
is oh and twenty two in his career. Dang, he
has never won a game, won a game in which
your opponent has scored He's played the full game. Yeah,
oh and twenty two. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
He's bad, bad, Like the Jets are going to be
so bad now. When he was with Chicago, he was
terrible there too. I thought it had.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Something to do with the rest of the team around. Yeah,
that's what everybody thought.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And then three teams, four teams later now are all like, oh, yeah, no,
it's him.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Well, I mean the Bears haven't been doing great either.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Well, I got Calin Williams and they got they get
that whole new Ben Johnson and the whole new offense there.
They're gonna see how that works as they upgraded the
offensive line. We'll see how that works out for him.
But yeah, Fields is uh. Theoretically he's going to be
the starter for the New York Jets. This year and
that Wow, talk to Aaron Rodgers is he and Aaron
Rodgers places?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
How would you be feeling though as a Steelers fan
right now? I mean from everyone I talked to that
as a Steelers fan. Minka Fitzpatrick was a fan favorite. Yeah,
I loved him. Yes, and now you're throwing it all
away for one year with Aaron Rodgers. He said already
that this is probably it and you're getting an older
Jalen Ramsey plus John news Smith when you already have
(09:25):
one of the best tight ends in the league in
Friar move although fire move let that ball go right
between his hands?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
In their season? He did you know? I mean I
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Your corners are Darius Slay and Jayla Ramsey and like
four years ago, that would have been exciting all Pro
four years ago, Wow, we got some corners. Now you're
kind of like, well, that is an old corner group.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Do you think they'll go after them? I mean I
would like, what are you going to run? You know,
I got Arrell Austin's or DC, Like, what are you
going to run? Are on Tampa too?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Because it kind of feels like op at three kind
of feels like you have to.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
With those guys.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Uh, you know, with those corners, and they're crafty, steal
though they're crafty.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
They've been have the same speed.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
But many times, especially great cornerbacks, as they get.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Older, Yeah, he gets smarter, right, doing it way smarter.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
And they're a step ahead of a lot of quarterbacks,
especially man quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well, and you know, and that's that's something to keep
your eye on. But they got Joey Porter Junior is
one of the corners, so they they do have one
guy that's you know, this younger. The rest of those
corners are just kind of just guys. And uh, they
brought in wan thorn Hill at the safety position. He
wasn't very good in Cleveland. Now he's he's over here.
He's gonna be your starting free to shot. Elliott's your
strong safety. He's okay, I like one thrown Hill it
(10:47):
was He's all right. I mean, the linebacking corp is
still pretty good. Alice high Smith, Patrick Queen Peyton Watson
and t. J. Watt. That's a pretty good linebacking corp.
Then you know the big bodies up front. They got
Cam Hayward and Derek Harmon and Kettle been their their
front seven looks good. It's that back end that's a
gigantic question mark. Like they got some you know, they
got some age in the secondary. And I'm like, did
(11:09):
did Darius Slag and Jalen Red they come with a
free wheelchair?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Like do those guys?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
You guys have to serve team meals dinner at three pm,
like at the Bob Evans so they can hit their
meal bird specially. I'm just saying it, like they got
a few years on them, you know, and that's year
Jalen's tenth year, eleventh year. I'd have to go back
and look at Sleigh is Slay's thirty four if I'm
not mistaken, and I think Ramsey is thirty.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Thirty one somewhe right there.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I'd have to This is a I'm not a hundred
slaves either this he's going into his thirteenth or he's
played thirty.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, he's he's slave's been around forever, y, Jalen Ramsey's
been around almost forever. You know, God said let there
be like daily Darius Slagy flipped on the switch and
Jalen Ramsey was there to see it.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
So I'm just.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Terrible. I'm a terrible person five six six nine ers
in texts. I had a few texts come in here. Well,
somebody said, why would Bruce Brown sign for the veteran
minimum after making forty five million the previous two years.
That's why that money that he's getting is already guaranteed
from Minneapolis. It's like when Russ signed for veteran minimum
with the Pittsburgh Steelers, the money that he was already
getting was guaranteed, was already coming in. So he signed
(12:20):
for the vet minimum because Denver's where he wanted to be,
and still he skied the same amount of money either way,
So it does not actually matter.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Three h three. Why does Jaala Ramsay keep getting traded?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Well, I'll tell you it's for the same reason anybody
gets traded.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
They don't think you're good enough to be doing what
they want to do, and they feel like they can
get better if they moved them.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah, and a lot of teams that you haven't played
for yet. You know, they don't really know what you're
like in the locker room. They don't know all those
good things. I would imagine if he was a leader
in the locker room, they would they would want to
keep him around now.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I don't really know what he's like. He maybe he maybe.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I mean, I've never heard anybody's he's a bad teammate,
but you know, there's he didn't get along with Vic
when fans, Yeah, he.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Was one of the people calling him out.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Now, I think Vic got the last laugh, is uh uh.
He went to Philly and all of a sudden they
had an absolutely ridiculous defense. But you know, I think, uh,
I think Jalen Ramsey got used to maybe that more
relaxed atmosphere he had out there in LA and you
know that kind of thing. I think he's I think
he kind of is at that point. I think he's
(13:27):
also at that point in his career where he's clearly lost,
you know, half a step and it's you kind of
and you can speak to this better than me, obviously,
But is there a point in your career in pro
football you get to the point where you're kind of like,
all right, we've.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Been there, we climbed them out, and you know all
this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I'm not saying you're mailing it in, but is there
a point where it gets easier as you get older?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
You're like, I don't know if I want to go
through the hassle of this again, not.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Really, not really because as you get older. You know,
fortunately most teams they will try to preserve you some
during training camp in that, but once the regular season starts,
say they they're counting on you to play, yeah, and
they want you on the field. Now, you may not
practice every practice. You know, Coachy'll give you some some
days off of practice too, but they're they're counting on you,
(14:11):
and that's not a time where you can let up.
And it's much more difficult as you get older, too,
because you know, nobody didn't move the same, doesn't feel
the same. It's you know, ches and pains and places
you didn't have makes and pains when you were younger.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, I just I think there's maybe it's not you,
but I think there's an attitude with some of the
current generation that they're just like, I don't have to
put up with this anymore. I don't you remember when, well,
it's at Vante Davis retired in the middle of a game.
That's Totyo Brown. I'm not going to count him because
he's a nut case anyway, but they just like, I
don't have a passion anymore, Like I just don't.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I don't have it.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
You know, guys get into training camp sometimes a couple
of days like wait a minute, this ain't me anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah, And that's that's happened to Sherebrick. I remember when
I was in college. Uh, the guy who he went
down there as a quarterback with me. Uh, we both
went down aquarterbacks. We didn't leave theirs quarterbacks. But I
remember after his first year he said he came to
they say, man, I don't want I don't want to
do this anymore. Yeah, And I was like, what, you
(15:10):
don't want to do it anymore? And he shut it down,
and you know, went on had a successful career doing real.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Estate and that.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
But I've seen people lose the passion for the game.
And you can happen at any time. It could happen
year one.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I've seen guys come in as rookies in it like
a man, I've had enough of this. I played high school,
I played little league, I played college.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I'm done. Yeah. We've seen what was the money? Sometime
the money isn't enough, Oh man? What was he was?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Money?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
The team the team worked, the the the team environment.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Sometimes it's just not enough. The I'm trying to think
of his name now, I blanken.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
The Niners had a linebacker a couple of years ago,
played one season, then he just retired, just wasn't there anyway.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Was named Chris Portland.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know, he was a guy they took him in
the third round, you know, all this kind of stuff,
and yeah, he he.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Uh he just he got in there.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And it's I say, a few years ago, might have
been like a decade ago at this point, but he was.
He was there for a season and then he just
didn't want to do it anymore. Yeah, he just wasn't
It wasn't there anymore. And I I mean, I guess
I get it. If you're not passionate about something, go
for it. I I can't relate to that because, like,
I'm so addicted to this game. Here I am with
the microphone, trying to do anything I can to cling to,
you know, to the diploma.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Imagine, how do you not want to play football? Right?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
And so that's you know, that's one of those things
like how would you not want? But you know, hey,
te shir oh happens.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Man, I've seen it time and time again, and like
I used to tell my kids when they were coming.
I was like, look, man, if you don't love this,
don't do it, because you gotta love this in order
to get up and make the sacrifice that it takes
to play.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
This game and be good. Yeah, you got you got
to make some serious sacrifices. Yeah, and the I.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Mean, yeah, you do your time, your body or you know,
all all that kind of stuff. There's there's a lot
that goes into into that stuff, and I guess it
gets to the where other people have other things they're
more passionate about than again, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, yeah for me, let's say, I couldn't this all.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
This is all I had maybe probably one of the
you know, this most extreme example, but Pat Tillman, you know,
one day he got up and he was like, you
know what, I'm more passionate about going doing this for
my country and all that kind of stuff. And I
don't want to get too much into what happened to Pat,
because you know, I know some of those guys, but yeah,
it's there are there are moments where, with anything in life,
(17:30):
we get to the point where we're like, you know what,
the same me anymore. You know, I sold my company
when I was you know, I was an it guy
my entire life, like I you know, I mean it
was it for the you know, in the military.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I did it, you know, contracting for the government.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Afterward, I started my own company and and built that
up and ended up selling I just like, this just
isn't mean I'm tired of doing this. It just isn't
me anymore, you know, not that you know, it is
something to get super passionate about, though I'm sure there
are people that are, but I like, for me, but.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I would imagine that in any field or in any endeavor,
people can be great. They can have passion about it,
just the same way that athletes, you know, feel about football.
I mean, you know, they may not be able to
relate to one another. But I know people who are
in business who are super passionate about it.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Oh yeah, you know, I know people in radio. You're
like that, well, you like that passion is a is
a strong word. Enjoying myself it pays the bills, Yeah yeah, yeah,
but hey, everybody doesn't do that way though.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
That's true for me, Like, I love the game of football,
and I had a body that did not allow me
to play it beyond a certain point, you know, and
then you know, in addition to lack of talent and
many other things, but I got to the point where,
you know, like I got this opportunity, like this is
the way I can hang on. This is the way
I can be around that thing that I love doing
and I always loved, you know for me, like locker
(18:50):
room culture, Like the locker room that they is pretty core.
The camaraderie I had that. I got my fix to
that when I was in the army. Yeah, you know
that's what I got out. I need that, right, So
that was the thing. So now I've got this company
and I'm like, you know what, this is what I
actually miss and so you know, I wound up back here.
This is the closest I get to that. Now there
is a there's a sense of that around.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You know that Old're coming for about twenty billion, but
you know, oh doing with you don't know what you
want to do.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Look, I'm just I'm just hanging out. I don't even know,
you know, I don't even know a bitcoin is how much?
Talking about five sixty nine zeros of text. I got
a bunch of questions roll and we'll get to some
of those.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
When we come back.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
We got to hit a break Yessen to broakfast Country
night right here on Kaway. Porter Junior traded for Cam Johnson,
a quarter junior in a thirty twenty thirty two first
router for Cam Johnson of the Nets and the Nuggets,
also signing Bruce Brown back on a veteran minimum deal,
(19:49):
Cowboy Bruce Back. And he's already posting up on in
the Instagram some of the Cowboy Bruce stuff.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
He was at some of the Nuggets playoffs games. Yeah,
he was Okay. So I'll tell you this is the
reason I've been talking about this for a couple of months.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
When Orlando Franklin, who is on the k Sports sometimes.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Was down there in Miami graduating. He just went back
and got his degree.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
When he was he was down there, Bruce Brown was
down there graduating two and so Orlando was graduating too. Yeah,
And so Orlando and Bruce were like chat and Bruce
wanted to come back here. So there was a little
bit of recruiting middle manning there trying to get him
to come by. Hey, man, if you take the better minimum,
we'll probably get you back here. So anyway, I'm glad
all that ended up ended up right out. But that's
that's part of the reason we've been hitting at that
one for uh for while. Bruce was you know, made
(20:31):
it pretty obviously want to be back then or obviously
back here for the playoff games, you know, and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
He enjoyed his time here, so we'll see. She always
got left in the tank. And when they spend time
in Denver. Man, it's hard to it's hard to get
Denver out of your system.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I mean, honestly, I moved out here for a girl.
We split a couple of weeks after I got here
and Ice State. She left High State, and her family
was the ones that we were here. Family, the ones
who were.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Here I stayed.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
First time I came out to Colorado. I was gonna
do a big West coast swing after my stop Denver
and go up and see some friends in Seattle. Never
left him my friend's couch for three weeks. Are over
here six months later, Seattle still wait.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
By grant you coming by for you man up to
unit yeah, man.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Five six six zeros of text line.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Let's see Brian, Steve Foley and Louis Wright walked away
from the Broncos on their own in nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Mmmm, it's about retired.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Talk about walking away from the game on their own
instead of you know.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yeah, yeah, it's a blessing when you can do that,
and well you've been with Look, they they only played
with the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
They ain't played with any other team, not that I
r I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, yeah, that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Fully might have, but I don't know. Louis Wright didn't. Yeah,
it's I mean it is, well, you could call your
own you know, when you can do that.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah, Man, to play long enough to where you're like, okay, man,
I've had enough and you can retire right where you started. Man,
it's hey, most people don't get a chance to experience that,
but those that do, I would imagine this is really special.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah. Fully, uh he was in Denver's whole career.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
He started off as a corner and then made the
switch to the switch to safety hands.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
He's not dropping anything.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Kind of wondering if maybe Jalen Ramsey might, you know,
if the corner thing doesn't worry if he if it
really has lost the step, maybe maybe he, you know,
might move to move back to the same condition I
mean it's like a safety.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
He definitely could, that would be Uh. He has he
has the size, he's got he's got the.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
He's got the body for it.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah yeah, I mean he's he's just bigger than the
almost corner folds by the way, forty four interceptions of
course of his career man, forty four interceptions, hey man.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
And he's one heck of a guy. Man, And that
was missing the whole nineteen eighty two season, by the
way too. That's crazy forty four dead yeah, because they
weren't the ball like.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
That now Now you're throwing the ball, you know, forty
fifty times a game, Daniel Lucky you got fifteen eighteen.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
You know, and how many of them coming to your side? Yeah? Yeah, man,
great player, man, really better guy? Yeah? Who was? Was
he one of the best guys yet?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I mean obviously you always speak highly of Dennis, You
always speak highly, you know, I mean like with those
those were the guys when uh, you know, as far
as is mentoring you or any of that kind of
stuff or.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah, well, Steve, he wasn't coming around as much back then.
I think he was working in his business and that.
But as the years have gone by, and he's come
around a lot more. And you know, I wasn't living
here for several years after I finished playing, but during
my playing days, yet I didn't I didn't see Steve
a ton, but I knew who he was, and you know,
(23:44):
we knew each other. You know, I always had a
ton of respect for him and we always got along great.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
You did move away for a while because you were
down to Georgia, I think it was or Maryland or
you know maybe what those Yeah, okay, but I what
was the call back that? That was it like I
missed Denver and I want to come.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Back or uh, it was some of that.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Also, we like we we had a conversation with our
kids because they were uh fishing up college and that,
and We're like, hey, and we were in Maryland, and
I'm like, we're not standing out here the crowd.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I don't wanny more of your plans come out.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Although hey has some great relationships messing with very people
out there. But I couldn't stay. I couldn't stay man
and and we we had a conversation with them and
we asked them, hey, where do you guys want to
be when where you guys think you'll settle down, and
they all.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Wanted to come back to Colorado.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
And my wife and I we you know, we had
that in the back of our minds too, but for
them to say that, that just made it.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, it made it made it a much easier choice.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, I'm aways curious because like some guys, you know,
they go somewhere else and they come back and all
that kind of stuff. And that is one of those
things that Colorado is such a I don't want say
it's a transplant state, but I mean in a lot
of ways, it's different because you got drafted by a
Colorado team, so you.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Were you know, you had to come out here.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
But like people come out and it's one of those
things you come.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Out here and you just your phone. Man. Yeah, this
is nice.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
For Miles and Miles and Miles, well, you said a
lot different reputation where I grew up the same than
what it actually is.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
So I sold. I was living in Tampa when I
came out here, right.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I sold my boat, which of course is a good move.
I sold my motorcycle.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Because I thought it was gonna be snowy all the time.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I was like, I have use for you know, this
kind of stuff, and you know, there's not a lot
of places to take a boat out here, so that's fine.
But I sold my my motorcycle, saw my boat, all
that had stuff. I came out here, and then I
got out here like ITU's three hundred das. So I
could have ridden, you know, yeah, I could have. I
could have kept that thing and ridden.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
All the time to get in Rick lewis as motorcycle game.
That's man, okay. So yeah, and he keeps telling me,
he's always trying to.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Like, yeah, you know, they get this for sale over here,
and I'm like, yeah, you know, not right now, because
then I do that. That's what it was spent all
my time doing, you know, right, Yeah, ride the bike.
They get all these great places to ride out here
in Colorado. You know, it's just fun like that.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
We had on our ninety eight ninety nine teams. We
had a group of guys that man, they would you know,
those motorcycles and ride all over the place.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I think Big Owls a part of that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, I'm like, man, I'm not getting on a motorcycle. Yeah,
I have you messed never getting on a motorcyca. No,
there's a lot of but there's no I don't. There's
no single greater.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Vehicle that exudes freedom I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
But nobody's gonna ask people get skinned up. Well, okay, fair,
I'm just saying I thought.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
This one dude when I lived in Maryland.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Boy, yeah, man, he was getting he's getting rehab, you know,
rehabbing from a motorcycle accident.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
He was, man, he was, he was, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
It's just one of those things like nobody's gonna nobody
ever ask anything from you. No one's looking for a
ride if you're on a motorcycle and anybody's just looking
for nobody's looking for a ride. Nobody's looking for you
to help move. If you got a bite, nobody's trying
to get you to help move.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I'm just saying, like.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
It said, it's the purest form of like freedom, which okay,
real quick.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
So most people, well I don't think most people.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
But before I went to ERECT, the first time I
thought high school that what I was doing. I did
that for almost one year. That was it, And there's
no way you could make a living. Bless you to
all teachers, because that those paychecks were extremely light.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
But I had this thing I hated to do.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I had to put my car in the shop, and
my buddy Brandon had his, you know, his bike or whatever.
And so I'm over to high school getting prepped for
the school dance that they're doing there. It was the
fall day, his homecoming or whatever, I don't know. Home
It did so decorating because all the teachers got to
help decorate this. And I was like, hey, man, can
I geta lif from you later I gotta go pick
my car up or whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
This dude showed up with his motorcycle.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Oh yeah, we're talking deep sound. I gotta set on
the back of that thing. You know what I did
not I'm sitting there like, no, just I'm just point
just leave. You've gotta leave right now. He's laughing the
whole He's laughing the whole way.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
No one knew.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
And what he was going to do the whole time
for me in front of in front of my students,
you know, tacking me up on the back of a motorcycle.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Or I got to see it when you said, when
you said that there's no better sense of freedom than
riding a motorcycle. There's nothing more emasculating than riding on
the back of the man.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Oh, yes, that's a good point. Where did you put
your hands at that? I'm grapped. I'm gripping the back,
you know, like this as far back as I can.
I wanted to put my hands around his neck for
showing up there with that.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Oh man, oh my goodness. Uh is that when you
fell in love with it?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Though?
Speaker 1 (28:16):
No, I loved motorcycle before that. I just thought he
was gonna show up his car, And like he knew
the whole time that he was, because we, you know,
prank each other and all that kind of stuff, and
he knew the whole time exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
What he's gonna have. And I'm like, man, you words
I can't say on the air. Oh it was. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Five six six nine zeros in text I eight o
one says up in I like Stacy from Utah, saying they.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Live vicariously through you, Dave and Steve.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
By listening to KOA and going to Broncos games season
ticket older There we Go. Football ended in Montrose, Colorado,
fall of nineteen eighty six the Montrose Indians with the
loss to the Sierra Stallions forty two to forty one
in the playoffs. Man a one point playoff lies to
end the football program.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Oh, I had to hurt, that had to hurt. That's
got to stick with you. Man.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Man, let's just kick a field goal. Let's try an attempt.
Oh my god. Yeah, I can't even imagine. Yeah, that's
like the US made a petition. Look man, look we're
going we're shutting down the program.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Let's just kid. Yeah, we just gotta get a good
one man, let's do something.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Playoff loss by one Oh man, that's things. Oh I
can't he can't quit on it. He can't end it
on a on a loss though. Nah, I feel I
feel for them. I feel for the one that was
the Hall of Famer Grant Smith. Back there producing what
else we.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Got here on the text?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Somebody asked if Dion could have played safety. No, Deon
Sanders was not a safety. You didn't want to tackle,
you know what.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I heard somebody say that he plays some safety at
some point. Uh, but he was so good at corner
he didn't even play safety.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, I can't imagine.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
And cornerbacks are generally better athletes than safeties anyway, you know.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, but I mean, plus his soul, you know, he
didn't want to I wanted to go after the interceptions
and all that, but he.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Want to really tackle. They I wouldn't mad at cornerback.
They didn't want to tackle. You can cover?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
You want to tackle? Mean you covered that fair enough? Yeah? Yeah,
I I six nine erald of text line we got.
Let's see here, somebody's asking if I could say I'm
a Michael Bolton fan tonight.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Well, I celebrate the band's entire catalog. It's a line
from a movie. What do you ever watch? Office Space? Uh? No, who?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
The guy's name is Michael Bolton and they're okay where
they're doing like this review or interview or interviewing him
to keep his job kind of thing, and uh, it's like, look,
who do we have your Mike?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Mike Michael Bolton, you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
And yeah, so the guy's like talking to his friends,
He's like, where's that name of problem? He's like, it
wasn't a problem, so that no talent bleep clown started
winning Grammys and then everybody want to say because he
had the same.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Name, you know. Yeah, So it's just it's a bit
from uh it's a bit from a movie.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
But we do that on here occasional Broncos got some
camp battles coming up here training camp safety room. Man,
got you gonna figure out who that third safety is.
PJ has been hurt? Uh, grow up?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah man, Jel Skinner you know, yell DJ yeah, turn
yell some good battles. Who do you think is gonna
gonna step out to the front.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
PJ is healthy, I think it'll be PJ. If it's not,
you know, if it's not him, then we start to
get into some questions.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Say, if he's not healthy, if at what point if camp,
Oh you into camp, you're done.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
You gotta be be ready. Yeah, you can be ready
for camp.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Man, Pj's gotta be ready for camp after that key probably.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
You know, I know that there's obviously you've got.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Skinner, got Skinner, got de Lawn Turner, Yell Skinner Turner, Yell.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
They get the Keeterrian Smith guy. Didn't we sign We
signed somebody who was the Sam Franklin Yeah, right right right, BDFA.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I just you know after who FuG gett Jones?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
You gotta have somebody back there that's reliable because he
get his head, some injury, his stuff, and so you
need somebody back there RELYA Well, PJ started you know,
a number of games last year, most of them you'd
hope that he could be the third safety in that rotation.
But if he's not healthy, then we start to ask
some question marks. You know, key, I think and Skinner
probably the leaders in the clubhouse, the.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Large and THEO.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
He got some good run before he he heard.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
His u leg Yeah, I mean that's you know, but
I mean at this point, you know, it's it's tough
because you got a bunch of guys who don't have
a ton of experience. He got a little bit of run.
I mean totally us had a little bit run. But
the tape on those guys wasn't exactly light in the
world on fire. In fact, you might want to light
that tape on fire.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
It's Skinner's been mostly a special teams guy, like you thought,
his size, his ferocity, you know, those.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Kinds of things. If he could pick up the playbook.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
But it's a little surprising that he hasn't hasn't hasn't
jumped onto the scene a little bit more. But hey,
you who knows, Maybe maybe this is this is his year,
but he's got to make a jump soon.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
He does the other side of that somebody's got to
make a jump is in that inside back of room.
I mean you brought into a green Law and Alex
Singleton coming back off injury. But again green Law tweeked
himself get it ready for camp, but he tweets himself
this offseason coming back off an injury. Singleton's coming back
off an injury, start k nods coming back off injury.
And you got Drew Sanders who just hasn't quite put
it all together at the position yet.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
All phenomenal athlete, but just has not put it together.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Man, if he can, if he can put it together, bro,
that position is going to be one.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Of our strengths. It would be nice to see that.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I at that point because this is the That's the
one I have the biggest question mark about anytime you
got your top three guys coming back off injury, even
if you do have you know, experience there that that's
a giant question mark. And Sanders again that you know,
he just he's been moving around inside is the outside?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Is the inside? Is the outside? Well he's inside.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Now he's inside, and they got to figure out, you know,
they got to figure out a way to get him,
you know, especially going sideline to sideline away from the
ball like he's good downhill. He comes from that. He understands,
you know how to rush the passer. But how do
you how do you you know? How do you stack
and shed? How do you how do you you know,
work off those blocks and go sideline the sideline to
be able to to you know, to get the running back.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
How you go away from the ball and come. I've
seen him do that, man, I've seen him do that.
I'm not not at this level. I've seen him in
college do that.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Man. He did.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
He did everything at an exceptional level when he was
at at at Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Man, you got a tough division with tight ends and this.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
You know, you got Travis Kelsey, who, although he's lost
his step, is pretty crafty. You got Brock Powers who
might be one of the most athletic guys in the lead.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
But the thing is he can run with those guys too.
He can run with them. I mean a straight line. Yeah,
they throw a double moves in there. Your ankles and knees.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Look like jelly, but get them hands on them.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I'm just the You gotta figure. He's got to figure somebody.
He's got to put it together. And then you know,
I think we were pretty deep in the corner room,
like we are. We are pretty deep in the corner.
Are deep deep? I think that's gonna cost some questions
this year. You know, mcmillion's moving back behind Jade Baron.
He'll probably stay, you know, on the slot. But you've
got you drafted Chris Adm's train.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You got a guy like Tamary.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Mathis who's had a couple of years, and you know
you're gonna have to show something at this point. It
kind of makes you wonder if Mathis is a guy
that's who has started games, is in line to even
make the roster?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, you know what, I.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Think a lot would depend on guys who's healthy and
who's available during during during training, and obviously who who
plays the best, right, But if everybody's healthy, man, it's
that's it's gonna be a lot of competition in that room.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
It's a lot better problem to have of like, oh God,
who are we going to cut than oh God, who
are we going to have to back up?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
And that's that's the way. I think that's a good
problem I have. I take that problem any day, oh.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, and every day and twice on Sundays, which hopefully
love you.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Steve. It's been great, as always, always my friend. Good
to see you, appreciate you brought his country dight back
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