All Episodes

July 8, 2026 16 mins

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Listen
Watch
Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Zero is the text line, and it's about the text
line of question for you, Nick Sai. Nick, what was
your off seasonal workout program before the season. I'm assuming
he means back when you were playing, not your off
season program from this past year, which was play PlayStation
on the couch with the kids.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
No, even when I played, I didn't do that.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
But I would say as far as off season was
just kind of workout really intests exhaust yourself in off
seasons and once you get back whatever rich Sun, who
was our strength condition to coach, puts you through, wasn't
going to be that hard. His philosophy was really quickly
was that in order to get in shape, he had
to get you into shape.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
But if you're already in shape.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well, well nothing, I mean going.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Down a sea level, you go back to my okay, yeah,
you didn't stay in there, so then you come up
in your ear.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I would get you win two weeks early before we
actually truly had to report, to try to get as
acclimated as possible.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
That was probably smart, probably smart. My off season workout
program he usually involved a six pack.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
It's time for the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I'm gonna train a lot of beer.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Insight and insight information you can't find anywhere else. No,
the top six headlines on.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Pat cir Tan the second, Von Miller, and Champ Bailey
are three of the most iconic Broncos defenders since the
turn of the century, setting complete body of work to
the side. Which of these three Broncos do you think
had the highest peak and how would.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
You rank the three of them? That's tough.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
I think I've seen that floating around Twitter a little bit.
I whatever which way you're gonna do it, I'm gonna
put Sirtan third. I'll probably put Champ first, but there's
an argument for Von two.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
I could go either way with that. At the end
of the day, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Go Champ von sir Tan, But there's arguments I think
for arranging the top two.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
I would go Von Champs on the only the reason
I'm doing that is.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
Because your boy, which guy's number one, which.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Guy's closer to the ball right that guy gets a
chance to impact the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
I tried to take that out of it, and like
just just I tried to isolate just based on there
because the Champ couldn't even though he's great, just couldn't
carry to a super Bowl, but Vaughn's you know could.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah well and listen, Tramp was extraordinary.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
But the guy closer to the ball from Edwards's standpoint
can make the biggest impact right away. We see the
same thing with Nick Benito, right. He helps PS two
in the back because guess what, his pressure forces the
quarterback to get the ball out of his hands.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
So answer question von Champ PS two.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
What would PS two have to do to unseat them?
They have to win multiple super Bowls with the Broncos.
And has PS two even reached the pak yet?

Speaker 4 (02:42):
I'm not sure he's reached his peak.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
He'd have to have like a double digit interception season,
maybe twice, gonna be champan some some seasons.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Here's the thing with cham though, right, and this is
where he separates himself from a lot of dvs.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
It wasn't just about I in T's or Pbu's.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
It was pick sixes being able to split the field
right away. We've seen a lot of that early on
with with PS two. He would have to do a
large amount of that for him to kind of extend
pass Champ or.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Von Miller Champs oh five oh six seasons where he
had eight and ten interceptions, three of those going for touchdowns.
I mean, he had eighteen interceptions over two seasons, three
of them went for touchdowns. That's I mean, that's pretty
Passer Tanna come anywhere near that.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
That's instant offense. That's turning defense into offense.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
If PS two can do it, we saw him do it.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Against the Raiders a couple of years ago.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Against Minshew, that's right.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
If he can do that at.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
A consistent level, now, the Broncos defense or the team
as a whole, their threat.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Patser Tann's biggest interception season is four, So there's no
you're not They're not in the same meche lot. I mean,
I understand that Patster Tanna is the best corner play
in the game right now. This game was also a
little different when Champ played Champ a little bit better
tackler too. Two.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
Well, Nick, you mentioned Nick Bonnito and your comments about
PS two. Nick made his first appearance and at ESPN's
annual rankings of the top ten players at each position,
of course, source from NFL GMS, scouts and coaches, ranking
as the NFL's tenth best pass with edge rusher sorry
number ten, Nick of course, number nine, Brian Burns number eight,

(04:18):
Nick Bosa number seven, t J. Watt number six, to
Neil Hunter number five, Aiden Hutchinson number four, Max Crosby
number three, Will Anderson number two, Micah Parsons and number
one Miles Garrett. What do you make of Benito's ranking
on that list and how much higher do you think
he can still climb?

Speaker 3 (04:37):
I feelive you climb really high on that list because
you say you got him rate ten tenth. Okay, Now,
obviously Miles Garrett was phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
He played on a horrible team.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
The thing that helps Nick Benito, there's two things, the
Broncos being able to run.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
The ball and being able to score the ball at
a high clip.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Because because of that, all the teams facing the Broncos,
he just can't sit back.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
You run the ball.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Now, I'm the Quarterback's got to drop the ball back,
giving Nick Benito ample the amount of time to kind
of get his numbers up. So I believe that can
happen because I'm playing trust in the Broncos offense being
better statistically and the run game being much better in
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, I mean Benito's uh, He's definitely a top ten
edge rusher, but I get in the top five, I
guess you're not gonna get ahead of Parsons or Garrett
if they're healthy, just because those guys are animals will
and now yeah, I need a little step back too,
and to me Anderson Parsons and get those I mean
they're never blocked like they're blocked, and they're never blocked, you.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Like Nick Nick Benito is a very good edge rusher,
but not quite at that eschelot. And he's like the
echelon right below that, so you know you could I
think he answer highs you can get there would be
like something tough five.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
I'm not buying with ben selling because, like I told you,
if this offense, hey, they're scoring top numbers up, guess
what second numbers.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Go up as well the production.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
But I'm just saying, on a snap to snap basis,
if you had, if you absolutely had to have it,
you've got to have a sack you got whatever you're
taking those other guys before you're taking a Nick boddo
in all things being equal, moment.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Miles Garrett to take Miles Garrett just saying not Max
Crosby Max, Miles, will Anderson and Parsons like you're just
taking those.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
I think he could he could get up to number five.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Right, five?

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Three.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Mac Jones, who shared on the Busting with the Boys
podcast that he felt he was in the running for
San Francisco in twenty twenty one with a third overall pick.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
I think we all thought that as well, and that they.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
Were also trying to acquire him back when the Patriots
wound up trading him to the Jags. Why do you
think San Francisco has had such a drawl to Mac Jones?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Would the forty nine ers be better off now had
they drafted Jones instead of.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Lance, Well, you would have party so right, No, I think.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
I mean, and Max Jones is okay, but I mean
he's not really he even a starting aliber quarterback in
this league.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Guy, I don't know. I think you'd probably start for
the Browns. Oh yeah, but you know, I mean you Browns.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Mcferguson could dust the cleats off and go start for
the Browns a quarterback, a position he ever played, if
you wanted to, maybe and'd be successful. I look, I'd
mean Max. Kyle Shannan's liked Mac Jones since he since
he you know, got to know him during that run
up in that draft.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
I I mean, I don't know the Niners would be better.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
I mean, honestly, I think the Trey Lance thing ended
up working out for him when all said that anyway,
because they back doored their win to Brock party same
way when Mike was in Washington, they went after RG
three and back door their way to Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
I'll say this, mag Jones is a perfect fit in
San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Why because Kyle.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Sannahan was with the Washington Commanders when they had Kirk Cousins.
So when you look at Meg Jones, it's another version
or younger version of Kirk cuss.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
A little athleticism, not a lot.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
But you know, a guy who can actually keep the
offense in rhythm. And when Brock Pritty went out, what
did we see.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
We saw Mac.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Jones step up to a point that most people are like,
you know what.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Maybe he should be on start. I'm like, man, you
sit the hell down.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
No, no, no, But it is his approach to the
game that makes Kyle Shanahan fall in love with him.
But if you were to go to Mic Jones, right away,
he wouldn't have been the player he is at this
particular moment.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
For ANFL dot com list, Kyler Murray, Walter, Nolan cam Ward,
and Jonathan Grenard among players most primed to take a
big leap.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
In twenty twenty six. Which Broncos players do you think
are most likely to make a big leap this season?

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Ooh, I'm going to say RJ Harvey, right, because what
do we see of RJ Harvey last year?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Right? I mean when you talk about running the ball,
some people criticize him and saying that he was part
of the Broncos walls, But all I know anytime they
got inside the red zone area, who were they finding
ways to give the ball to? And his ability to
catch the ball out of the backfield based on the
matchups how they was schematically.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
He put together to me, I see another big year
for him.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
I had two names for you and he was a
Rique and Jonah Ellis.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
I think it's a prime year for both those guys
get the jump off, especially with John Cooper's legal stuff.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Jonah Ellis could be prime for a big season.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
On the foot side of Ed was a Rik probably
the fourth guy in that rotation as the team will
move on from DJ Jones after this Year's probably gonna
give plenty of run. They want to get a good
look at him. He'll had the opportunity to produce it.
He's been great since he came back from that gambling suspension.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Then I'd like Jonah Ellis as a pick.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
So I don't know how much we're gonna see improvement
out of r J.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Harvey.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
And maybe we will see improvement, but I don't know
how much that will translate to the field with Jonah
Coleman being added. So I think he's going to get
a lot of those snaps.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
But here's what you're discounting the level of competition, right,
because if you think about RJ.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
Harvey, he's no relatively new to the running back He's.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Still new, but guess what, there's a familiarity that he
has that would give him somewhat walking through the door
a slight advantage over Joe on A Coleman.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
But that is a position. He's just got to go
take it. But I believe he'd be much better.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
This season five.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
This week on The Rush with Max Crosby podcast, Fernando
Mendoza said that Clint Kubiak reminds him of Kurt Signetti.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Yeah, it's pretty simple. I win Google me. What do
you make of that comparison?

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Will Clint Kubiak's Raiders enjoy a larger or smaller jump
and wins than Signetti did in his first season seven
and a half win improvement?

Speaker 4 (10:31):
So the Raiders were three and fourteen last year. They're
not with it ten games. That's roster's not with it
ten games this year.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
The entire Chiefs, Chargers and Broncos going to you know,
gonna get kidnapped.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
All three starting quarterbacks go down with the season. Like, hey,
come on, I like the bare bones of what the
Raiders have started. Like I think that they're building shopping.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
There and you know, in a season and a half
two seasons, they probably competitive, But right now they're the
doorm out of the AFC West.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
So no, you're not going to get to ten and
a half wins or whatever. What do you think of
the comparison from Mendoza, Well, I.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Like the comparison because here's what we're talking about, and
there's a failure in the professional sports, especially football, when
it comes to this accountability, right and a certain discipline
that a coach puts in place. And here's the other part,
looking at a scheme that is really detailed and catered
to a player's skill set. And I know that sounds
ridiculous to me saying is, but there are a lot

(11:27):
of individuals who are scheming and dying drawing a place
that they scheme the plays for themselves how they would
think if they were playing. But you're not playing, it's
to play on the field. So I've been around Clint
Kubiak and I know the way that he's going to
try to put things together for his young quarterback. So
familiarity is key for sure.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
Over under in Vegas right now is five and a
half wins for the Raiders. You think they're over five
and a half.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yes, I'm gonna say yes, I'm gonna go over.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
I'm gonna say five wins for the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
No longer say it over because they're gonna catch a
team slipping and the team is gonna think, well, this.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Rated is not that good. It's two years away.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Do they get to play the AFC East? Do they
get the Jets and the Dolphins to this two?

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:13):
And I think the Browns are on their schedule, but
they don't get to play themselves. So you know, are
they gonna have the Titans on there anywhere they.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Don't catch someone slipping?

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Was all right? Yeah, just like last year. They caught
somebody slip at week one and then they slipped the
rest of the lay.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
I'll tell you man, I thought Geno Smith was gonna
turn around the Raiders after.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
They Speaking of Judo Smith, he needs to turn himself around.
He's got popfork going seventy five and forty five, you know,
not the worst.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Speeding in fraction we've seen in from NFL players former Raiders.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Six.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
The USA versus Belgium Round of sixteen game had a
total American audience of forty two million, more than twenty
twenty more than the twenty twenty five NFL Divisional round
game average. Were you surprised that this many Americans were
watching and would you consider this run in the World
Cup by the US a success?

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:03):
I would consider its success And I wasn't really surprised
because soccer has become somewhat of a sport that fans
can kind of embrace.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
And once again it was World club.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
We're not talking about MLS, We're talking about your country
versus another country, and I like to think that even
though there were a lot of Americans rooting against a
team USA based on the thing that happened with Belligan,
but I think for the most part, you know, most
Americans were cheerful, they were happy.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Like when they beat Bosnia outside of San Francisco, you saw.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
All the fans out there, yelling and screaming, people throwing
up their babies and all of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
They embodied the American spirit. So I like that.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
I mean, if it generates interest, so be it, I
think hopefully. But the problem is in the problem will
always remain to be the reason of the unisons and
competitive soccer reasons that our best athletes play other sports
as part of it. We charge, you know how much
it costs to play soccer as a kid in America
versus in Norway they pay their kids at fourteen, we're.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Paying We're paying twenty grand. They're paying them twenty grand.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
So it's it creates like soccer is popular in the
world over because it's the cheapest sport to play. You
could play it anywhere. You could set up goals anywhere.
All you need is a ball, right, and you could
you could play barefoot in right, is the cheapest sport
to play. You don't have to have pads, you don't
have to have skates, you don't have to have a rink,
you don't have to have a specialized diamonds at bats
and you know, it's one ball and figure out how

(14:32):
you set up goals and you can you can do that.
The United States has found a way to make it expensive,
and unfortunately, as long as that is the case, it's
going to continue to not be accessible with our best
athletes to go other places.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
I mean, all of that being true, I mean you
had to love the fact that how so many American
citizens who never really liked soccer, like Ben you know
what too.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
I love the fact that you guys like I get.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Hey know you love guarana or gonorrhea or whatever that
game is in Girona.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Do you think the way they lost, though, like getting
just completely beat down by Belgium kind of like tempers
the interest in the in the fervor that was around soccer.
I mean, maybe in four years it'll pick back up
and it'll be forgotten. But I think there was a
lot of animosity towards the United States and.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
I think Belgium got a chip on their shoulder for
that game. I think there was a lot of animosity
about oh, you.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Guys got a player to get get to come back,
you know, I think there was I think it was
a lot of motivation. And you know, there was an
interesting moment in that game. United States tied it up
with one and we watched Belgium just catch them nappen.
They were celebratedly. Yeah, still celebrate Belgium was like looking
at it by that just started right down there and
put it the goal.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
See what that is an example of a team or
a country that's not used to being in that spot.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Where I'm going with it.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
We see the women do it, and they did.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
It at a high love that the men have get
to kind of catch up to it. But yeah, I
mean when you had not done something before and it's
something that Bill parcels us appreciate all.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
The time, act like you've been there before.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Don't start jumping up point talking about the name on
the back of your jersey, Act like you've made a
play before. And it just seemed like after US got that,
when Tim we got that goal, they just kind of
start shelaxing you remember, I can't.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Remember who was against they maybe a Denver Eraiders got
a big sack. A few years ago, some guy and
the Raiders got a big sack and they were back
there celebrating all the other teams getting ready torun a play.
They caught him all sides and they you know, they
had a big comeback or whatever.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Act like you've been there before.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yep, they were was hilarious to see the Belgium players
during the Trump dance after what they did know they
were and they were merciless too, like they even they
had a tweet after It was just yeah, anyway, Jack

Speaker 1 (16:49):
And Zach on the goal Colorado Rocky's Baseball Up next
here is Dick the Long Fall
Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Betrayal Weekly

Betrayal Weekly

Betrayal Weekly is back for a new season. Every Thursday, Betrayal Weekly shares first-hand accounts of broken trust, shocking deceptions, and the trail of destruction they leave behind. Hosted by Andrea Gunning, this weekly ongoing series digs into real-life stories of betrayal and the aftermath. From stories of double lives to dark discoveries, these are cautionary tales and accounts of resilience against all odds. From the producers of the critically acclaimed Betrayal series, Betrayal Weekly drops new episodes every Thursday. If you would like to share your story, you can reach out to the Betrayal Team by emailing them at betrayalpod@gmail.com and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.

Crime Junkie

Crime Junkie

Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by Audiochuck Media Company.

Stuff You Should Know

Stuff You Should Know

If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2026 iHeartMedia, Inc.

  • Help
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms of Use
  • AdChoicesAd Choices