07-13-26 Hour 2 of Broncos Country Tonight with Parker Gabriel

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Somebody just texted in Galaxy quest. I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Great movie, all time classic, but uh, I want to
know why they texted that in We're gonna right up
the kaway commas Pell hotline and bring on our guy.
Parker Gabriel from the Polls by Parker J. Gabriel on Twitter. Parker,
how's it going, buddy?

Speaker 3 (00:17):
I'm doing great. How are you guys doing?

Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm doing all right.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
We talked about this Jeremy Fowler survey of the Execs
or whatever and having Bonix and like that lowest tier
with CJ.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Stroud Mac Johns and how that that just kind of
feels weird.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, a little bit. I mean I think you know,
they didn't rank not every quarterback in the NFL is listed,
so it's not like they're putting him at the bottom
of the league. And yeah, I mean you could quibble
with a couple of the guys that are ahead of them.
And I think in general, like this year will go
a long way towards sort of cementing what where we

(00:53):
think Bonis belongs in that conversation and also maybe like
how much I'm not thinking it can't improve if you're
thirty year in the NFL, obviously you can. But just like,
is he tracking toward like being right now or Sunday
being a top ten, top eight type of guy, or
is he tracking more towards settling in that that sort

(01:14):
of mid range. And I mean, I think if you
look at and they got Sam Donald ranked eleventh and
the Seahawks won a Super Bowl. Obviously there's a lot
of factors that go into that. But if you look
at the sort of mid tier Donald, Jordan, Love Purdy,
Trevor Lawrence, like those are Jalen Hurts. Those are quarterbacks
that have one of them that's won Super Bowls, two

(01:35):
of them that have won Super Bowls, and a bunch
of have been the conversations. So I don't, I don't.
I guess I wasn't like real up in arms about it,
but I understand why Bronco's hands might be upset about it.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Well, Parker, when you look at this, Liz, do you
think baw is where he is based on scheme? Because
the reason I say that because I told Bend before
you joined us. If we look at a lot of
those drop passes last year, I mean, if bo had
those yards and I know we can't play the is game.
But if he had those yards, things would look a

(02:08):
lot different for a Bone Knicks, would it not?

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, it would, I mean, I yeah, I don't know
exactly how to compare that to, you know, the number
of yards by you know, drop passes that you know
Dak Prescott had. Like obviously they have a really good receiver,
smande As a bad example, But everybody has their thing, right,
Like Justin Herbert has the playoff bugaboo, but last year
he also had two All Pro tackles hurt all year.

(02:33):
You know, like if Boone Knicks would have played a
good chunk of last year without Garrett Bolls and Mike
McGlinchey or Garrett Boles and Quinn Minor or something like that,
like the year might have looked different. Like football football
is great because we talked so much about quarterbacks and
there really is so much else that goes into it. Like,
you know, if you wanted to rank quarterbacks by how
many games they won, Boon Nicks would be a lot

(02:54):
closer to the top of the list. And you know,
I think he's got some upward mobility here, and I
you know, maybe some of the things he does from
the mobility standpoint or the game winning drives or whatever, like, yeah,
maybe that has gone under reflected and in this particular pull,
I could buy that. I just think, like, I just

(03:14):
don't mind the notion after watching him for two years
that we can see a little bit more from sort
of like his isolated performance as much as you can
do that from a quarterback. Before we say he's like
categorically one of the.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Best in the NFL talking with Parker Gabriel and yeah,
I mean I wouldn't say Bo's category one of the
best in the NFL. I just didn't think he's in
that tear with CJ. Stroud and Matt Jones.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
I mean, you got a guy who, to be fair,
it's Daniel Jones, not Mac. You don't make it any
better for you.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
I mean not really, kid, That's fine.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
I wouldn't have thought so.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, But anyway, I think, like I don't care about
this kind of stuff we're talking about. I don't care,
like what rank the quarterback wherever you want to rank him,
It doesn't matter. We're en list season right now, where
people are doing this stuff because they need content, and
at the end of the day, like who cares if
they want to sleep on the Broncos quarterback led the
NFL and fourth quarter comebacks and the team to a
NAFC championship game.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Please do please add fuel to the fire. I'm here
for it.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, and that's a fine approach to take to it.
One thing I thought was interesting about this is that
if you look at the obviously Jaman Daniels was hurt
quite a bit last year, and Caleb Williams was maybe
a little bit up and down before he really played
well down in the stretch of the season. Obviously, you know,
quite a run for Chicago there to win that division

(04:32):
and do what they did. But it is I thought
it was interesting, like if you look at this list,
like we talked about the twenty twenty four quarterback class,
it's sort of like a budding great class, not a
good class, but a class where maybe there's like, you know,
four guys who could be decade plus starter as franchise
type quarterbacks however you want to put it. And Drake
May in this list is ranked the highest of those

(04:54):
guys at eight. It's May eighth, and then Caleb Williams tenth,
and then Ja Daniel's higher and the honorable mention than
Bo Nix and to like, I to me, like that
just shows you, like how much experience matters at the
quarterback position. But also like there are certainly teams out
there that are hurting at the quarterback position. There's not

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thirty two really good ones obviously, but there's a lot
of really good players, especially in the AFC. But just overall,
we've got good aging quarterbacks, We've got good quarterbacks in
their prime. We've got like a pretty big crop of
sort of up and coming quarterbacks. We've got guys that
you can argue about all day with, you know, Purty,

(05:36):
Jordan Love, you know, pretty really pretty much anybody on
the list except for that's outside of you know, Jared Goff.
So like, I just think it's like it's a I
don't know if it's a golden age of quarterbacks overall,
but there's so many like good ones, and it's interesting
to watch how much teams are willing to try to
win with the quarterbacks they do have. And I think

(05:57):
like that's one thing that Broncos obviously and shot Paint
have done really well in the last two years, is like,
what is the route to winning with bo Knicks As
an inexperienced young player, and now we're going to start
to see what is the route to winning with bo
Knicks as he advanced a sort of in his NFL.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Career, Parker, do you think this has anything as far
as you know, executives and other people around the league
when they look at not just this team, but just
bow Knicks. Since we were talking about bo Knicks, do
you think it has anything to do with the defense?
And the reason I say that because Ben was saying, Gee,
just said it to you. Look at bow Knicks' fourth
quarter comebacks. A lot of those fourth quarter comebacks and

(06:36):
we cherished and we use those in our evaluation. But
to know that your defense has allowed you to be
able to do that and O body the way and
the said Wikimsham, you know, dissertation about Sean Payton and
the team. You know in the playoffs, Sean did say, hey, listen,
he knows that the strength of the team is their defense.
Do you think that some of that is being held

(06:59):
against Nix? Because when you look at some of these
other quarterbacks, that's not how everyone else views them.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Could be could be. I mean, you know, obviously everyone
has their own opinion, like Gout's everyday job is to
figure out what's real and what's not on a player
to player basis and not and not get caught up
and all that. Now, you know, it's one thing you
like to be good at your job as a scout.
It's another thing of Like, is that exactly what you're
telling Jeremy Fowler when he's putting together this list? Like

(07:27):
I don't know, maybe maybe not, so you never quite
know exactly like where every individual person who voted in
this thing is coming from, obviously, but yeah, listen, Like,
of course, like bo Nicks, there's going to be some
discount in a broader public conversation because he's got a
really good defense, because he's got a really good offensive line,
because he's got Champagne as his head coach. Like he's

(07:50):
been an objectively like a very good situation. But there's
nothing wrong with that. In fact, like if you're talking
not about like lists in the off season, but just
about football in general, that's great. That's exactly what you want.
So that's you know, there's no shame in that for
Boon Nixon. Yeah, like if if they take a big
jump offensively this year, like Jalen Wattle is going to

(08:10):
get a lot of the credit for that, and Davis
Webb's going to get a lot of the credit for that,
and invariably, like bo Nix is also going to get
credit for that if he has good numbers and all
of that. But yeah, I don't know, like you're not
from the outside, Like you're only going to get so
much perspective into like what a player means for the team,
and like regardless of where exactly you want to slop

(08:32):
boone Nix on this list, Like I just don't think.
I mean, talk to literally any person in the building
over there, and you won't find a whole lot of
variance and how important they say bon Nix is to
what they're doing, And it's like he's as important as
anybody in the building.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Hey, Parker great here. Nick brought up the defense in
his last question. You recently spoke with Zach Allen for
one of your articles in the Post, and he said
he thinks the Broncos can break the sack record this year.
So I'll pose the question to you, do you think
that the Broncos can break the sack record?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
We'll bar be it for me to disagree with Zach
on anything football related. I think it would be a
surprise even given what they've done the last two years.
I mean, sixty eight sacks is just an awful lot,
and then they still needed what four or five more
I think to break the records. So yeah, Like if
I were a betting man, which I'm not, but if
I were, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say, oh, yeah, I

(09:21):
think they're going to get seventy four or something like that.
But I do think they'll be disruptive again, one of
the most disruptive defenses in the NFL. There's no reason
not for them not to be. But you know, they
may tweak how they play a little bit. One of
the things I'm and maybe you guys you know, chime
in too, But like one of the sort of like
sneaky things I'm interested in is, you know, vance Josephic knowledge. Yeah,

(09:45):
we didn't create enough takeaways. They did in the playoffs obviously,
and he said, you know, there's some things we can
do to create more. But I'll be interested to see
just how much he's saying that to a piece the
head coach, and how much like are they really going
to play much differently? Obviously a person that was like
a little different every year. But I just I don't

(10:06):
know if you'd take last year some total look at
it and say, like, you know what, we need to
try to create more pressure on his own books, so
maybe we can get more interceptions. Like they were pretty
darn good obviously in what they did and what they
were good at last year. So I don't know, I'll
be interested to see if they, you know, forego anything
that worked last year in pursuit of trying to turn

(10:28):
teams over more often, and that could come at the
expense of you know, Sacks too.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Talk about Parker Gabriel at Parker ja Gabriel on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
You know, we have a talk since the seth Wickersham
margat Ocle came out was last week or week before,
and it.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Fascinated me because there was a bit in there.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
You know, you know, they tried to drill down on
how you know, detail oriented Sean Payton's and all that
kind of stuff, and there's a fascinat little thing about
how they noticed on tape that they could get this
block against Tyrrel Shaver's and all that kind of stuff,
and apparently failed to notice that he had torn u
s acl the previous game. And wasn't going to suit
up for it, so it was kind of kind of interesting.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
What did you think of that article overall? What stood
out to you?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, I mean it's amazing and obviously, like it's the
kind of thing and Seth would be the first one
to say this, I'm sure, like you just you can't
get that kind of insight without being in the room,
and it's very rare that someone you know, gets the
green light to be in the room, let alone during
the playoffs, and so it was fascinating. I mean, there's
so many different things you could take away from it, Like,
you know, I thought it was interesting just to kind

(11:26):
of like that and we saw like snippets of it,
but obviously, you know, not the whole thing, just the
euphoria of beating Buffalo and then Sean being told about
the bow Knick's injury and the sort of like the
ramp up. And I thought like one of the things
I thought was it the tone seemed quite a bit
different and obviously like SE's the one writing it, so

(11:49):
he's got some control over this, but like I thought that,
you know, Sean seemed to have quite a bit more
verve or or creativity or whatever term you want to
use in the Buffalo week, then in the New England week,
and I wonder, you know how much the quarterback injury,
like you know, subconsciously or otherwise had to do with that,
and then other I mean, you know, there's there's just

(12:10):
so much stuff in there. But like one of the
other like sort of broad themes that I ended up
writing about this weekend was just like, you know, the
life of an assistant on offensive assistant coach on a
Sean Payton's staff as a is a unique one. You
never know what time you're going home, if you're going home.
You know, Sean talks in the meeting for six hours
and then maybe he asks you for some input or

(12:31):
maybe he doesn't, and then you go finish up your
work at four am and sleep on a cod in
your office. I mean, on the one hand, like it's
very clearly Sean Payton's show, and it's he does like
I would imagine a vast amount of the talking in
these meetings. And on the other hand, that is like,
that's that's some pretty serious hours that these guys are pulling,

(12:52):
you know, literally basically, maybe not that intensely, but generally
speaking from the time training camp starts until whenever the
season ends.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
I know we are maybe over a week out from
the rookies reporting.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
With that being said, obviously we know that football season
is right around the corner now before.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
We get there, I give you opportunity to give us.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Some interesting storylines possibly heading.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Into training camp.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
You can give us want or to, but I want
you to give anything away that you kind of haven't
written an article already for, but just kind of give
us a little something of what you expect some of
the narratives to be heading into training camp.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah, I mean there'll be a lot of interesting stuff.
Like I just think, like, yeah, I think the receiver
room obviously is really interesting. Obvious Corylas and Jayal and
wadall are going to command a lot of targets there.
How does it shakeout? And some of that probably has
to do, you know, with what exactly their offensive identity
ends up being and how much say, you know, Davis Webbs,

(13:54):
the play caller sort of has in that. I mean,
I just I wonder like they have taken a very
like they've taken a very strong posture of this offseason
that they are not going to you know, let a
veteran go or or sort of risk overturning the apple
cart to save a few dollars on their salary cap.

(14:15):
They could have made a move with Ben Powers, They
could have asked a couple other guys to restructure, you know,
they could have this, They could have had They didn't
really do any of that, Like they're they're everything they've
done is about a team that like clearly has its
chips in this year. And all that being said, like
I do just wonder if they're gonna get to the
end of camp or to the middle of the preseason

(14:36):
up at the time they traded Von Valley last summer
and look around and say, like, well, teams are calling
about you know, Riley Moss or Dakwan macmillan or whoever
is in the secondary. Teams have called about Ben Powers
or or somebody else on the offensive line or whatever,
Like just if they entertain any of that, because they've
got a deep roster, they've got some positions of strength

(14:57):
where they could still deal from when other teams have
injury issues in training camp. Sometimes those things become move move,
but sometimes they don't, And so I just there's just
going to be that lingering question in my head until
the season kicks off, of like, is this the team
that is willing to, you know, spot a good deal
like they did with Ale last year and still add
some draft assets, or is this really like anybody who

(15:20):
has a chance of helping us in a meaningful way
this year, like we are not willing to part with
them essentially, no matter what. Like, I think that's a
good question to have to try to answer, and I
think they'll have to try to answer it before August
is out.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Well, I'll continue to hope that somebody calls about Troy
Franklin and Sweet Pop.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
We'll see what happens there, Parker.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
We appreciate the time as always in look forward to
catch over you again here soon.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
All right, yep, see you guys.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
All right, take care, park Gabriel from the different post
at Parker J. Gabriel on Twitter and a break.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
We'll be back. By the way, somebody pointed out whether
they said Galaxy Quest earlier, because I was wrong. It
wasn't Toy Story's Galaxy Quest, Never get Up.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Never Surrendered was Tim Allen's line from Galaxy Quest. Kind
of the same thing, same guy, same voice.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
So that's why I messed it up because I was
doing but I knew it was a buzz light Year
and I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Anyway, I messed up. I love Galaxy quest one of
my favorite movies.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
I should have not had a brain fart there, whatever,
but I appreciate I appreciate them texting that way.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
To your credit, let's be to anytime you hear Tim
Allen's voice, do you not hear buzz light Year?

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yes? So yeah, I mean you do.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, that's I don't know why I messed that up,
but anyway, Yeah, Galaxy Quests is great.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
But I love that movie.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
So it's it's a it's kind of like a like
a spoof on Star Trek, I guess, and it is.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
It is, absolutely and the cast is loaded.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
The cast is loaded, like Tim Allen back then when
they made that movie was the star because like like
the other people in it hadn't necessarily taken off.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
And it's like.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
So Gorny Weaver, come on, hell yeah, But Tim Allen
was like Alan Rickman is in that movie. Yes, Sam
Rockwell is in that movie.

Speaker 6 (16:59):
Tony wait what uh the guy who ends up playing
Dwight from the offices in there?

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yes, I remember, Yeah, rock rolls like, no, no, don't
send me downs to the plane.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
I don't even I would be.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
The one to die.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, it's so good if you were ever a fan
of Star Trek, and if you don't like Star Trek,
you'll still like it. But like if you if you
were ever a fan of Star Trek, you'll really like
it because it really riffs on a lot of the
tropes and and you know, kind of all that kind
of stuff. Uh, somebody said my text, you say my
money is on Troy Franklin or Marvin Mims being traded.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
I could see that. I could see, Wait, which one
of those guys because you.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Didn't see that, I could see the one I would
prefer personally if it were Troy Franklin. But given this, uh,
this staff and how much they hate me, they'll probably
ship Marvin Mims out, in which case will become a
star somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Which one would you get more value for?

Speaker 5 (17:50):
Probably, of course, you think, even though catches last, wefty drops.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Here's here's the idea.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Okay, Mams is the better of the two of the
two guys he named. Only one of those guys went
to the pro bo. There's only two guys in.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
A wide receiver room for the different Broncos that were
pro bow bound goes receiver. It doesn't make a difference.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
He was there, he was present, he did something that
was worthy for him to be voted.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Into that particular sign.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Troy Franklin has yet to show case any of his
ability that he did show as a member of the
Oregon Ducks.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
With Bo Nicks.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
To to put this in finer on a finer point,
the Broncos literally traded a first and a third for
Jalen Waddle because they did not believe Troy Franklin was
the guy.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Now most people think now they didn't do that for
Toroy Franklin.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
They didn't. They're not leaving anymore. Hey, there are some
individuals who believed that was and I'm like, now, it's not.
It's Troy Franklin. Like that. That's the reason that Mims
has been the doll. How sure you want to? We
can get it too that some other time, but that
that's that's one of those things. Uh.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
You guys watched the fight over the weekend, Connor McGregor
got his backside handed to him.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
That was the freest money I ever made.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
Wasn't wasting my time with old man Old Connor McGregor's.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Right out because I was watching soccer.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
It was like Saturday wasting the Yeah, Argentina, I didn't
see that one.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, I still got the fever baby world Cup. I'm
a bigger sport.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
Then a concert watching the World Cup, I have been
one up which it was a rooftop party Goldfish, Uh
huh it is a.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
South African ed M group. I guess that's your your medium.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Gut.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
No.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
It was for my friend's birthday, so I ponied up
the forty bucks and actually had a great time BC.
I didn't have tickets and doesn't play on BC.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
That's so much.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
They do have some instruments that they play with in
and out of their beats. But I had to step
out a couple of times because man, it's just like
you know most concerts you go to, there's like a
little break between songs or stuff you can catch your breath.
You just got that constant beat underneath the whole time,
and I'm like, I gotta, I gotta go outside and
catch my breath.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
I was wondering, how did you pay forty dollars to
go to this rooftop music event?

Speaker 5 (20:20):
Catbird Hotel. Actually it was a very cool venue in Rhino,
and you're.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Trying to watch the World Cup all at the same
time with background music just.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Going in your ear.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
So from the venue you could look to the bar
at the other end of the rooftop on the hotel
street and.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
See the screen of the World Cup.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
So I was just standing in front of a big
old fan when it was ninety eight degrees out or
whatever on this rooftop. Of course you reference to ninety
eight degrees you nick, well, that's my jam, no, just kidding,
but then watching the World Cup from a distance, and
then stepping out every once in a while when the
beat was just a little too much.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Speaking of the World Cup, so my finals set France
against Spain. Many people feel like that that's kind of
the de facto championship and the winner of that will well,
we'll probably beat the other side, which is going to
be England and Argentina. But we'll see England Argentina of course,
are Wednesday, France Spain tomorrow post us to feat you
guys to watch and I have, I've been watching it
all but I mean it's soccer, you know, I'm gonna
watch it.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Is how can you not you know what it's like,
even if you don't like soccer. Is like watching the
MLB after the All Star break well, where every single
game matters at that point and it's life for death,
and you watch some of these games and you're thinking, okay, well,
looking at how the teams got to this particular point,

(21:32):
you think, okay, well some of these matches are going
to be run away mattress and they're coming down to
the wire. And oh, by the way, a lot of
these matches have a lot of va R officiating CONTROVERSI yeah, there's.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Some bad officiating in these in this thing.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
So someone actually asked me, text me a friend of
mine and he said, well, do you think you know
FIFA is known for its corruption in a sense, yes,
that that these.

Speaker 6 (22:02):
Last the last head of FIFA is literally in prison
for the corruption.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I'm just saying, Blatter is literally in prison.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
The question was asked, do you think FIFA would kind
of taint this World Cup just to get the matchups
they want? Like a France Argentina matchup. That would be great,
France England, that would be great. What I'm rooting for,
I'm kind of ruins on.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
The other I'm on Spain, Argentina, Nah, Argentina already won, Yeah,
they would have won. Yeah. So in France, France wins
them all. France, this they'll be I think that I
have to double check this.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
I think they'll be the first country ever to make
it a three straight finals tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Are you.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Big handsome fan? Because you like them? Pop Buppy?

Speaker 5 (22:46):
That is a banger. Listen to the lyrics as an adult.
It hits a way different. Does actually? Uh?

Speaker 1 (22:53):
You saw the World Cups thinking about expanding to sixty
four teams all of march Mandis.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Does this help balance these scales of international competition in
regards to.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
No, just put more teams in there so they can
they can lose, That's all it does.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
I mean Cape Verde.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
How many Americans are now planning a vacation to Cape
Verde that had no clue that even existed before this turn?

Speaker 4 (23:12):
Well, I do know a couple of people who, yes,
I know a couple of people will go like, oh,
cape Verde.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
I heard of Cape fear but not Cape Verde.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
Right, So that I know a couple of people who
are like trying to book their tickets, like they're trying
to book to Brazil or something like that. But to
add more teams doesn't add more excitement. It can it
gives you more marketability in different countries. Well, let's be
totally honest, man, some of these teams and their clubs.
These guys have been playing ever since they were little
tykes man, little kids. And to get to this point,

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I mean, their games and their skill set is so
far superior than you know, the places.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
And to be totally honest, some.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Of these countries they don't have a number of sports
like we have here in the United States, right, but
they only have like one sport and it's football.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
That's it all day twenty four to seven.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Well, we talked about this a little bit.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
I talked about this a little bit when I was
by myself on Friday. I want to get back into
it a little bit. It's not just that that is
part of it. The fact that we have so many
different sports and competing sport like football and basketball and
baseball and all that kind of stuff. You know, most
of these countries don't. And soccer is so accessible. It's
easy to play. All you needs a ball, you can
make a goal, you don't need special equipment. But football football, okay,

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international football.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
It's soccer you have. It's an accessible sport in the world.
You can be dirt porn play it.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
All you need is a patch of land at a
ball and you can fabricate some goals. You don't eat
special equipment. It's it's an accessible sport around the world.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Though.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
What I will say the difference between how we do
things and how the rest of the world does things.
Our own capitalism is getting in the way, or at
least our lack of innovation.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Our capitalism is getting in the way. Thought, capitalism is good.
I do think it's good.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
I will I think it's a good I'm more like
Michael Douglas's character in Wall Street. Greed is good, capitalism
is good. It's a I agree with that. I am
a capitalist. I think it's a necessary evil.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Is probably a better way to put it. Necessary evil.
That's said. Been hanging out with comrade Edwards. No, I'm
not a socialist. I'm so not a socialist. I'm so not.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
What I will say is, if you go to countries
like for instance, England or Norway, when they're fourteen years old,
they're getting paid to play soccer.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
They're at the.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Clubs, they go to a club, those clubs try to
bring them up. By the time they get to be sixteen,
they can sign a professional contract and they're making two
thousand pounds a week. In some cases they're to get
paid two thousand pounds. Okay, not a time. I'm talking
about English currency.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
I I just misheard. There's made me stop when you
said that. I don't you say.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
They're gaining two thousand pounds a week. Yeah, they get real.
I thought you say two hundred pounds a weed. Oh
that's what I toaked this a way to excuse me?

Speaker 3 (26:08):
What do you say?

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I mean, I guess you could negotiate for that, right.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Oh no, no, But these countries so like but your
countries like Norway and England, they have the you know,
like similar to our AU or whatever. They have club
they have club soccer, right, And that's what Yeah, and
that's what happens. They bring these kids in his prodigies,
they get them trained up, they get them in their system,
and then they get them.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
They get paid at a young age.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
We're paying to have our kids play au ball stuff
like that. We I parents texting it on Friday when
I was when I was talking about this was Zach
and I'm like, you know, one of the one of
the father's texting and he's like, oh yeah, I pay
like something like, you know, three thousand dollars a month
for my my daughter to play soccer or some stuff.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
And I'm like, dude, and here's the thing. It's getting
prohibitively expensive and it keeps people out. You say prohibited expensive, No, three, Yes,
it is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
We should flip that model on its head here in
America and migrate to the club system.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
It's more profitable, it's more efficient, and we.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Don't we instead we use these messed up AAU type
systems or were you know.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
There was an argument ranging online, well, you don't.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Want you know, you don't want to pay for your
kid to play, you don't want them to get coached.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Well, well look at Norway and England. They're not paying.
The parents aren't paying, they're paying the kid.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Well, you know what, here's what I've heard because I've
spoken to some coaches and some individuals who've been involved
with AAU sports, and there was a mixed bag there
as far as is their value. There is a little
value because there's a little exposure but just because mom
and dad haves the money to pay for you to
participate in the sport and it's on a traveling team,

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it doesn't necessarily always equate to your kid getting development
that they require. Right, you paid into it. A coach
is getting the money for it. But your kid isn't
that much better. Now he can tell his friends and
his teammates, Hey, I was on this elite traveling team,
and it's like, oh, how much did you play? I

(27:55):
was on the team. I got a jersey, but you're
not really playing that much. So I am for the
system of people paying those players to develop them. But
you're not going to see that happen in soccer in
this country because, I mean, there are not a lot
of college teams that are giving scholarships.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, there are women's especially I mean because the Title
nine saying because of Title nine, it's easy to because
there's no women's football, it's easy to upset that with
a soccer team.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
There's soccer scholarships out there.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Whether they do the same thing with tennis scholarships, Like
you could be a woman that barely played tennis and
go get a tennis scholarship they're giving them.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
They can't fill the ball because the title line, right,
So if you're going to.

Speaker 6 (28:36):
Do that, I'm just saying like that, that's where it
has to start. Believe it or not, We need innovation
in women's soccer in order to flip this model on
its head, because that is the area where you can
start with the club thing and it can cover the
men's until it grows.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
And that's the reason why the women won the World
Cup and the men have not.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
And this is why the development pipeline isn't there for
the multitude of reasons, right, And this is why you know.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Female athletes they want to get pay, especially in the
world of soccer.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
They're like do and they deserve it in the world
of soccer because the revenue they're gonna have to do
and go.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Like, you guys have not done a link of anything, right,
but now we're being underpay where everyone is pushing everything
the promotion in the branding towards you guys. So look,
I'm all for these clubs paying paying the kids because
you're actually making money off of marketing these kids.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Right. That's how you just invert the model.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
If instead of the kids, the parents playing paying for
their kids to play you get the club mosters to
give a stipend too.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
The kids, these parents are paying to get the stateum
to wash them. It's it's gonna You're.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Gonna end up generating so much more revenue, make the
sport more accessible, drive.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
The cost down, and get phenoms in there that couldn't
otherwise afford it.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
And you're going to make us better both nationally and
internationally and all these sports if they do it.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
But again, we have to invert the epistode that we have.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
Yes, and I'm just saying it takes somebody bold to
step up to the plate and do it. Colorado disproportionately,
by the way, has more soccer players out there than
almost any other state.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
We just port actually have great soccer players.

Speaker 6 (30:01):
We should start this here when you say we give me,
give me you a Colorado residents, because I am.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
We drive from Kansas every day, right, so should we
ask that community start to uh something like this on
the thought leaders in the sports talk space that I'm
out here trying to stop for it right now. K't
wait is a thought leader in the space. Everybody copies
what we're doing. They know a round town, everybody copies
what we're doing. That's that's that's been the case for years.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Well, they may listen to people may listen to O
the stations sometimes, right, but it came from here first.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
Well, I guess we need to get some of these
corporate sponsors to make somewhat of a vested interest, you know,
of their dollars to get some of these things going, because.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
You need steam behind some of these ideas. Well, I
got the Bunsen burner on. Let's see if we can
create some steam.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Let's get let's get the pot cooking grant, let's get
it cut.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
I mean, did you not agree?

Speaker 2 (30:57):
I mean, if I'm wrong, tell me I'm wrong. Nobody
has to excellence. Needs to be disagreeing. More people are
agreeing on the on the text. And by the way,
somebody said, if anybody's planning to go to Cape Verdet,
I don't care how many stars the resort is. Don't
need the salad.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
I ended up with two ivs and lost ten pounds
in two days. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
I guess the latest let us out of head e
Coliat or something in Cape Verde. I don't know, but anyway,
it's just a shout out from them on the camp Vernday.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Because I didn't want anybody to you know, Oh, but
that's it. Like if I'm wrong, tell me I'm wrong.
But I think this is a great idea. I think
we need to find a way to invert this.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Get the club system installed, and it starts on the
women's side, because that's the easiest place to do it.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Right now.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
Well, we we do have a women's soccer we do, and.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
They got the club thing with the rapids and all
that kind of stuff. But we need to with like
the Summit. Yeah, the Summit will some too.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
But we need to do that's if we can adopt
those systems, we can be internationally competitive. And oh, by
the way, I think we should apply those systems to
basketball and football. And the reason that I say that
is France is catching up Paris Saint Germaine as a
as a club or all the basketball players are putting
out now like when we came out of that. They're

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using the club system over there. So the AAU system
we can get, we can do better.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
Well, if we don't do better, we gonna have our
butts kicked like Belgium did.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Well, look at the look at the basketball situation now
international players should taken over.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Yeah America, America is not number one anymore, I know.
But the FIFA rules where there's no such thing as goaltending,
you can take the ball off the ground.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
We need to take in some of that stuff. We
get to that. I'm just saying the terms of players.
Look at the look at the the NBA is dominated
by international players.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
Because we got a whole bunch of shrokot bitches right.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Well, but I was French, but I mean, yeah, yes, anyway, knew.
Listen Nicole Kic Serbian Rays Canadian.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Charles Barkley said to himself, if you see any dude
right on the NBA roster with a bitch in his
last name, he can shoot right right.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
And that's what the league is turned into. Everyone wants
to shoot three point shots.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
It's like, well, you look at when the United States
played against Serbia and they were down by fourteen, how
do you get back into that game? Some great plays
by Kevin Durant and Steph Curry. Then they didn't look
at the game against France. How do they win the
game against France? Steph Curry.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
But the point is is, if we're going to get
better and stay competitive, International Athletics and really refine the
system here so we're getting the best athletes. We need
to create opportunities where those athletes don't have to pay
exorbitant amounts of money to play. We're paying them and
the gate, the floodgates are open now. With nil money,
we can invert the system. We can't do it, we
can get it done.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
It was gonna do like a Howard Dean scream there,
but we got a break. Broc us cuntry night begging
for this