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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And someone nine said it's been twenty five percent of
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girls who play high school could get a college scholarship.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I believe that number. I believe it could be higher, actually,
but I believe that number. It's all about opportunities.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
The more opportunities you get the chance to display your ability,
the more people get a chance to see you, which
opens that door for possibly the most scholarship offers.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Yeah, and it's gonna be uh, it'll be fascinate anyway.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I've been over that twice.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I think that we as Americans would would benefit from
shaking up the way that we do.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Sports at the.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
At the high school levels, by disassociating it with school
and going to clubs and you know and doing that
kind of thing. And I think that that I think
would be immensely profitable. But we'll see, well, you know,
we'll see if that ever it gets the attraction.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Yeah, the Nuggets made a signing, by the way, Yes,
they get Alfa Yallo.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Signing him.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
He was in the what the EuroLeague I think it was, yes,
euro League. He's top defender, he was, and he got
a he had a contract where he was offered twice
the money to stay in.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
The euro League, and he came here instead. He wanted
to be in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Uh Diallo, by the way, played high school ball at
West here locally, never Colorado.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You look like that, Nick six ten? Nick has got
a look on his face. All right, So so you
over and.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I think it's Dubai you're playing, and they want to
give you two million dollars or whatever you unitate with
one point four here in Denver, and that's going to
after taxes be seven hundred thousand. Right. What I look
at it is saying okay, well, hey, you don't want
to turn out money like that. But he fills out.
He's twenty nine. This is to be his first opportunity
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playing pro ball here in the States, not overseas.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Drafted out of Providence back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
So you know, I know in sports, a just use
against you in the negative way. So he's realizing, look,
he has aspirations of playing in NBA.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
This could be his only opportunity.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
So he's trying to maximize the opportunity. And the Nuggets
need defenders on that second unit, So.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Signing a one year deal making.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Seven hundred thousand dollars after taxes if he does play
this right, and he plays right, meaning on the court,
this could actually change his life. Where another team, because
he only signed a one year deal right where another
team could say, you know what, he ain't don't worry
about going overseas.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
No, we got to.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
So hopefully it works out for him in that particular way,
because if it doesn't, he's gonna look back on and
me like, man, he lost out on some money in Dubai.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
He can always go back. Well, yeah, he can always
go back.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You think of that money.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Though.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
The other thing that's interesting to me is how much
he gets talked about his defense.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
He can score though, he scored forty one points in
the final two games in the in the Euro Final.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
When he's with the national team.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
He he started off with Timosa that he switched to
the Guinea national team. He averaged twenty four points a
game at feva's Approbaskt in twenty twenty five, twenty four points.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
A game playing for guineing like he could score too,
He's not. This isn't like Ben Wallace were gay at
four point.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Though, But this goes back to how much value do
you put over an international basketball in the level of competition,
And I say that in all due respect because I
know in the NBA a lot of players don't play defense.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, begin with right, and.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Also in Euroball, guys don't play that many minutes, like
you don't get that many minutes, and so like your
scoring averages are usually down. In European ball that he
was getting, he was getting decent minutes. He averaged fourteen
points to think it was a game or twelve points
a game.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
For Monico last year.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
But it's it's in Euroball that the scoring just isn't
as high, the pace of play is lower. They actually
play defense, and guys don't get as many minutes.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Well, he'd get a chance to, you know, put his
defensive acumen to the test because the Nuggets, that's one
area that they've been lacking is being able to defend.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I know it's always been a talk about Lebron, but
I don't know if this move would be one of
those moves.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
That enticed Lebron.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Lebron join.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So so I don't know, but good on Dillo. I
hope it works out for him.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I hope he can flip this one year deal into
most of the year deal either with Denver nuggets or
with someone of the team that not himself. Hey, sometimes you.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Gotta do it, or he hits that wrong side of thirty.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yes, and get to come home too. Did you play
high school ball at West here?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
I mean that that's gotta that's got to feel good
for you.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
H switching gears here at PS two. It's just obviously
the most dominant corner league. That's you know, he's on
all the lists. At least they're getting that right U.
This sumburb working out with the list of POLLUSA and
whatever else is going on.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Oh just wait for the sixth Oh my god, I
can't wait. That is Sarcasm is like a second language
to me, so hopefully you're right.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
There with me. Uh, why is he so dominant? Is it?
I mean?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Is it the fact that he's just got that size
and that speed?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Why is he so dominant? Man? It's a combination of
all of it.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
But everything, no matter what, whatever sport that you play,
it starts with mastering one thing first.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
It's footwork.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And Chad Bailey used to say when we played together,
is that you win on upfield routes by winning at
the line of scrimmage. And that's kind of an issue
that we see that Raleigh moss is dealing with. Right.
This is why he's targeted as much because the footwork,
now Raleigh Mosses is fast, but it's winning at the
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line of scrimmage. And if you watch any of the
videos of PS two over the years, that's where he
went on most of his routes. So much so teams said, okay,
well we may not be able to beat him in
the foot race vertically, so now they would double move
him or the biggest thing they do to him. And
you do this to real good corners. You take your
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top receiver, you take them off the ball, and you
put them in motion because knowing as though you are
your coverage defines kind of what you do. I'm in
man coverage. I have to maintain outside leverage. So if
you come in motion and you run across the field,
that's a long way for me to run and I'm
in tromo. So if it's a shallow route and I
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don't get help from the linebacker, now that guy beats me.
If it's a deep over route and I don't get
help from the safety in the middle of the field,
guess what.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You beat me.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, there's some for guys, especially if you're trying to
tire out a corner. I'm always a big fit because
everybody talks about just running burner routes to try to
tire him out. There's more than one way to skin
a cat man. Put it, put him in motion before
the snap, and then return them after the snap and
get that guy run the full length of field side
side the sideline and worry him out that way. If
you want to try to do it, now you know
they're a different wish to do that, and that is
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what it is. But you played with a corner that
was dominant. Champ Bailey was certainly dominant. How difficult is
it for the other corners when you've got a dominant
corner and they know the targets are coming their way
because nobody wants to throw at at the main guy.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, the idea was that you better get in the
code tub and you better get a lot of rest
that week because you're gonna do a lot of running
because the idea is that they're gonna target you. Because
when you look at one side of the field where
the was Rod Woodson, Charles Woodson.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Dion, Tom Thompson.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yes, yes, it didn't make a difference, because when you
know you have a bona fide shut down corner, team's
gonna look for other ways to kind of get their
office in the rhythm from a passing game standpoint, and
you're gonna get a lot of those targets. And like
I said, if you want to try to target an
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elite corner and you can't beat them vertically because of
how well they play the ball at the line of scrimmage,
on the snap, you put your guy in motion.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
That's how you beat him.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Because I remember really quickly PS two's first year here
with the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I remember it was like a walk.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Up touchdown for the Raiders, right, and Devonte Adams set him.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Up that cross your old game set him up perfectly hit.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
And I remember I told him after that game when
I was in the Broncos locker room, and I was like, look, man,
don't worry about that.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
You one hell of a corner.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
People on the outside who don't who don't know football,
they're going to make it a big story.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
But watching it, they did a great job of setting
it up. And I said, he would have got me too.
It was funny.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
It's funny you said that because I was in the
locker room after that.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And remember Justin Simmons.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Like yellow don't be going after PS two was his fault.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yes, you know, like I just know.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
This is This goes back to having a football eye
and understanding what you just saw, right And and once again,
the Raiders did a great job of scheming. But when
you have a skill set like that, individual is going
to try to find multiple ways to create opportunits for
their wide receivers. And here's the other other way that
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going back to the Coast game last year, the Coats
stated to the Denver Broncos they knew that they were
a good man press team because that added extra pressure
on the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So basically what they did.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
They started running crossers, pick routes.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
If the linebacker.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Doesn't step up to take one of those guys, someone's off.
Was just a good job of finding those particular goals receivers.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Like I wasn't the world's greatest quarterback, but that was
I loved run shallow crossery.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It was the easiest thing to do.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
All it's a keyd read.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Then if the linebacker doesn't pick it up, I'm you know,
all I'm looking is for who.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Comes open off the pick.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
But once again, exactly what you said is that it's
coming right directly in the line of vision of.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
The quarterback right, so he gets a chance to choose.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Now he's got a rob in his progression based on
the matchup right, but he can decide do I want
the guy coming from the right or the left. And
this is why when I played for the Denver Broncos,
we had to work this a lot. And this is
where the brilliance of Mike Shanahan being on offensive side
helped us on defense. How are they trying to attack us?
What we have to be alert for? And more importantly,
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like when we saw it last year, when the Broncos
defense was getting chewed up, they were getting chewed up.
And I go back to that That Coast game because
a lot of teams watch that game and build a
lot of their routes with their receivers and their running
backs off of that particular game. The biggest problem that
the Broncos secondary, the linebackers had. They didn't talk pre snap,
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they didn't talk. Everyone lined up, everyone knew their assignment.
But when gods started moving for some reason, you could
see the guys they knew what was going on, but
nothing ever came out of their mouth.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, and that's and that's so vital.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I mean watching if you can see a defense as
a communicating gu's when you do stuff like that, like,
for instance, if you're going to run a shallow crosser, right,
I love I love having like a gun two back
look putting both backs into a swing, because that puts
the linebackers into a bind right off the bat. If
I'm running the crossers in and the swing and the
backs out, how are you picking that up?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
And go back to the coach games. This is why
I'm bringing it up.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
What happened to Alex ingleson Jonathan Taile's.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Exactly And that's exactly what I'm trying to get out.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You get put out of position because you you're forced to.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Make a choice to choose. And so you know, I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Puting two backs out on a swing and I'm taking
my receivers and running them in.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Somebody like, somebody's going to be wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Somebody is going to be wrong unless you lett somebody
tap somebody on.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
The shoulder and says, we got to you know, we're
switching up here, you.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Know, drop off. I'm gonna take it.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
You're going to be wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
What's one of those routes would you prefer to to
if you had to let go?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
What would you would you lego?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Would you let the back coming out of the backfield
running that rail route or that that cross, that shallow cross?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Which one would you like? As the linebacker?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yes, well, I mean because you got two guys from.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
The If I'm the linebacker, I'm probably going with the
back because i can keep up with him, and I'm
hoping the safety back there just picks me up.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You know, it's either way. I've got to be wrong,
But like I would prefer, well, of.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Course you you definitely.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Prefer I would prefer to let the shallow cross go instead.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Of the rail road.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I'm a same as you.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
The reason I say that because on that rail route
there's no one out there.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
You're out there by yourself.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
The shallow cross, it's a shallow we can all see
it and react.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
You can buy it, that's right.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
And it would also depend on the cover shell, like
if you're if you're too high, then I'm gonna let
the As a defender, I'm gonna let the rail go.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
If you're one high. You gotta go, you have to
and that.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
That was the problem last year with the Denver Broncos,
and it's one of the reasons coming into the season
where some of the fans were like, I don't really
like the Broncos linebackers because they're.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Not as athletic. And I can tell you.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Even you don't watch singletons pretty athletic, dude, Yes, but
once again, you don't have to be. It helps if
you are a Roquan Smith or a Patrick Queen, of course, but.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
If you're ready to do it.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
But not every linebacker is that type of linebacker. So
this is why you have to understand before the ball
is snap, when you look at the formation defense are
you in, how are they trying to attack? You cannot
communicate with with that corner or that nickel because usually
there are rules in may coverage. Were like, you can
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only swat with like positions, dbs, with DB's, and some
teams don't allow you to do it with linebackers. But
I'm like, if I know my linebackers at a disadvantage
and he's and they're running that shallow cross right at
him to pick him because the back is offset, that's
the damn giveaway right there.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
The back is offset.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Right, and so that's there are little tips that you
need to and that's it all goes back to you
talking about communication. There are little tips and tricks that
you can you could pick up on that. Like if
if I saw if I was on the defensive side,
and again I played very little defense, and we've all seen.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Some of the results that was the defense.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
I think, yeah, because there was no tick happened I showed.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I think I showed you guys, like the whiffing on
a tackle one time or whatever. Show that video to
you and Steve. I don't remember if I should. You
know I showed Steve. But who will be in tomorrow
I believe?
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Is that the Nope, not in tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Wednesday?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
No, just shaking our head. He's off this week, He's
off this week.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
No Steve this week? Well I'm wrong. What are the
odds of that?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But I mean there are if you're if you were
in the gun, if if I'm running that with that
gun two back, with the double swings in the and
the shallow crosser, the inverted too though takes that all away.
And so but you've got to have a safety linebacker
communicating back there, communicate because that and that and that's
how that goes. So that's just one of those things
that I think is fascint Uh. Do we think Jade
Baron could potentially unseat one of these guys and get
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to the starting lineup?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Why when you say one of these guys, what do
you do? Well, he's not gonna unseat her tanks.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Okay, what we mean is Moss or McMillan.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I think they would be more of Moss because McMillan
is held down that spot for a while. When Jade
was drafted last year, that's what most of the people
in the media we're talking about, Well, he's being drafted
to take Jay Kwan's spot. But Jay mc and cheese was.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Like, oh not to day.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I'm the cheesiest right, this is not about to happen today,
and he's going to hold down that spot because he
can do a multitude of different things. If you're playing
in that position, you have to be great in coverage,
you have to be great in recognition, and you also
have to be a great tackler and a guy who
can blitz. That's not to say that John D. Barron
can't do that. He can, but I think for him
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it's better for him more outside, right, That's where I
think he can do the best for this team. And
that is one of the position battles I'm gonna be
looking forward to because Roley Moss is on expiring deal, right,
so this this is make a break time for him
and he has to show.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
That both technically because McMillan got yeah, yeah, they're both
gonna be free.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
So you say, well, what's one of those guys? Would
you say, Well, the Broncos will be okay if they lost.
I would say, Roley Moss, you have to be a
dignified dog to play in that nick who spot.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
And I think McMillan does a great job.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yes, you know, I think he honestly be the best
corner we've had a nickel corner we've had since Chris Harris.
With all due respect to to Bryce Callahan. You know,
he's he's done really really well in that spot, and
so especially last year, I mean, he was just he
was such a dog last year after this and it
was kind of weird because the coaching staff was kind
of dogging him a little bit, saying he wasn't the
you know, the you know the B plus player he
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thought he was.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
He was more of a you know, a C plus player,
and then he had to show that.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Then he came up and showed he was B plus
plus player, A plus if you're in the playoffs. So
you know, yeah, in Moss, that situation, I mean, I
think Riley gets unfairly maligned. Sometimes I think he gets.
I think he gets I think he's flagged for playing
corner will being white.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Sometimes no, no, no, Ben, that he.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Gets flagged play corner, gets flagged for playing corner opposite
bets Erta.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
He gets flagged for defensive.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Of those were.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Some of those, like that Trey Lot burs't player whatever
like that. Dude was putting clutch defense down.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Anytime you reach, you reach.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
When the guy has a step on you, they don't
get you. Every single time, Yeah, every single time. Can't
get caught with your hand in the cookie job.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Well we're gonna put boxing gloves on him or something
doing to that. We got a break six pack, we
come back. I'm the easiest, so one not.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Only two weeks till camp.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
You guys sick of silly top twenties or quarterback surveys. Ben,
I'm glad you were totally wrong about England Mexico match.
Maybe the best game of the tournament. Keep up the
good work. Well, I didn't say wasn't gonna be the game.
I just was on the wrong side of that one.
I hit England in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I'm excuse me. I had Mexico in England died up?
What again? So I mean I you chose in Mexico.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I chose Mexico too because I thought it was gonna
be a little awkward.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
For England at the elevation and the way.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
That's a proper assessment looking at what the athletes were
going to have to deal with.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
But if you watch it, if you and if you
watch that game, they Mexico lost it because for two reasons. One,
they're they're center midfield stinks, they have no vision, they
don't know how to how.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
To get all four to the right spots.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
And then every their entire offense was wing play with
service into the box to one guy and New England
figured that out pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Well, yeah, same thing that Norway was trying to do
there at the end against England too.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
We can play with service enter the box for one
guy and you're just not going to beat England play
like that.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
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Speaker 4 (18:09):
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Speaker 2 (18:19):
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Speaker 5 (18:22):
What well, speaking of the World Cup and England, the
World Cup semifinals begin tomorrow, France and Spain at one
o'clock mountain time, and then England and Argentina at one
o'clock mountain time on Wednesday. Who do you want to
advance to the finals, Who do you think advances to
the finals and who wins it all? Well?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Uh, personally, I want Spain to win. I like the
Spanish team a lot. I think Argentina too messy on
the way out would be kind of cool, you know,
I know you know that this kind of played out.
I know there's that whole like do they favor Argentina
and all that.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Kind of stuff. I get all that.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I don't really care for the England Argentina side. You
either one's fine by me, Hurricane or MESSI on the
way out. I'm I'm fine with that, but I want
Spain to win. I do think they can win against France.
Francy is favored in that in that match, that's France
Spain's tomorrow, I believe, and then England Argentina Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
You know what, I would love to see a storebook
ending with Messi which has led to a lot of
ten to four. I had theories about FIFA trying to
make this all take place. But this is a great
four team field and England hasn't won it in years
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I think it maybe sixty years, right, So there's a
lot of storylines, so I would say I would like to.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
See England winning.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I would like to see England win it.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Also, yes against France, though.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Against France, but I think it may be Argentina in Spain.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And the fis what I kind of my gut says
Argentina Spain in the final.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
And you know, we were talking.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
About this a little bit off the air before and
they don't show me the money during Kiwi Sports.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
But Shelby was talking about Spain as a possession team.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
They are, but they do make it rain on goal too.
Like they are a possession team, they take a lot
of shots, you know, So let's don't don't discount the Spanish.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Don't discount the over.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
In that one.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
This say they are they play a really short possession style,
but uh, they're eleventh of goals in the tournament. You'd
be eleven goals in turn, seventh in goals in the tournament,
and third and shots like they do they make it rain.
Interestingly enough, they'll be up against France who's number one
in shots on goal two.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
So actually the football we always care about, not every
forty years and those lists that you love. Quinn Minors
returned to ESPN's annual rankings of the top ten players
at each position sourced from nfl GM scouts and coaches
as the NFL's fourth best and tier offensive lineman. He
was just behind Creed Humphrey, Quenton Nelson, and Tyler Smith.
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Do you think this is a fair ranking for mine?
And then what else about the list stands out to you?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Well, Nick, what do you what do you think here?
I like where Quinn Miners is.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I still think that he doesn't get a lot of
the respect that he deserves. And also too, there's more
that you can squeeze from Quinn Miners as far as
getting him out pulling and getting him out front on
some of those gidget gadget type plays. But but you're
looking at this list. I like where he is because
there's room for improvement, and guess what, he has the
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potential to be higher on this list once the Broncos
get the run game going this season two as well.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, it's it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
I don't know that I would have had Tyler Smith
number one.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I probably would have had Nelson and Humphrey won and two,
then Tyler Smith, then probably Joe Tony than Quinn Minor
so I think those are the right five guys. I
personally would have a little bit of a different order.
I like Quinn there at four, and there's an argument
at five, there's an argument at three.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I get that.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I think it's it's a fair ranking. I think it's
he's in that tier. But Tyler Smith at number one
is weird to me. I would have had Quentin Nelson
or Cree Humphrey there. I think they're better interior linements.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
What do you think.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
About partner Gabriel's comments earlier in the show about Broncos
maybe looking at moving on from bim Powers by the
end of training camp. You think there's some reality to
that comment.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, I mean he's on expiring deal.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
They brought him back through the continuity here.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
If one of these guys steps up and is able
to jump into that spot, I think they'll absolutely look
to get something for him and move on there.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
They've got to figure out how to get that line cheaper.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
They're paying everybody. They're about to have to pay bo Nicks.
You can't afford to do that.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
You just can't pay everybody in your.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Line, full receivers, multiple running backs, a quarterback, your entire defense. Like,
you're gonna have to get cheaper. And that's one of
the places they're gonna have to get cheap.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I mean, that's the price of doing business in the NFL,
right if you beant a rookie deal.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
You can listen if you were saying that your offensive
line is one of the best, and I think if
Pro Football Focus had him ranked as being one of
the better offensive line. And that was all due in
part because the low number of sacks that they had
given up, But that wasn't just duing part to this
skill set. That was due to number ten, who the Broncos,
like Ben said, they're gonna have to pay.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Him three for the first time in his career, Josh
Allen was voted as the NFL's best quarterback in those
same ESPN rankings, dethroning Patrick Mahomes. Of course we talked
earlier Bo Nicks number eighteen on the list, Caleb Williams
and Drake May in that same draft class at number
ten and number eight. What do you think of Alan
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knocking Mahomes out of the top spot. And I saw
earlier today on get Up that they were comparing the
Mahomes and Allen rivalry to Brady and Peyton Manning. Do
you think that's a fair comparison and Josh Allen at
number one, dethroning Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I think Josh Allen's got to get to or within
some Super bowls before that comparison is in vote. I mean,
Peyton Manning and Tom Brady both had Super Bowls, you.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Know that Ston Manning's first Super Bowl win and year nine,
which Josh Allen is going in.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
But he'd been to the Super Bowl. You know, I
should have gotten there.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Josh is can't get there yet, I think, I mean, honestly,
i'd had Matt Stafford at number one. You know, I mean,
as mind boggling as it is to say at this point,
because he can't move.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I think he does more.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
You know, yeah, I might even have Burrow up in
that conversation if he hadn't gotten hurt Sidar much, you
know hit. What he does without a defense is incredible.
I don't know that I have Jared Goff and Keleb
Williams at nine and ten. That's a little weird to me,
and Trick Bay that high with bow that lowe as
little weird to me.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Probably have Justin Herbert hired Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Otherwise, I mean, I don't have too many bones to
pick with that top ten.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Well, looking at it is like who is the flashyest
of the top three quarterbacks? Like I agree with Matthew
Stafford being the eldest statesman because remember coming into the
last season, I mean he was out with the back entry,
and look at all the crazy things that he was
able to do at this stage of his career. But
I think we only talking about Patrick Mahomes and Josh
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Allen because to me, right now they're perceived as being
the faces of the NFL. And Patrick Mahomes did not
look like Patrick Mahomes last season.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
That's that was before the injury.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
But there's something special about Josh Allen and his skill set.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
The only thing that he's missing right now is a
Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
And I'm sure that if you asked him, he would
be willing to give up every acco lady had for
that particular honor, because if he does, and he was
able to do it, he would now become the god
of Niagara Falls because he would that would have done
something Jim Kelly couldn't do.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Yeah, I'll bring that first Super Bowl game Buffalo in
their new stadium with the Bison outside.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Yes, around that video.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
He got lifted. Man, Okay, here's here's and it's just
not meant to be political, but bear with me for
a second. So I shaw the news that Lindsey Graft
passed away right as I saw that video, and I
thought that he had died. For the briefest moments forgetting
I thought he was the guy in the.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Video, was the one that got tossed the Biffalo and tossed.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Him in the video.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Well, in a couple of weeks, we can toss out
all these dumb lists.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
But here's what more for you.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
After ranking as a top two player in each of
the NFL's Top one hundred player lists.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Last last two years.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Right, yeah, Lamar Jackson tumbled all the way to sixty
ninth nice in this year's edition of the rankings.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
What do you make of.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
That Jackson fall in the list And.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Is this the start of his decline as an NFL player?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
No, it's not the start of his decline. And guess what.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
In order for you to decline, you have to be
really high on the list, and that's where he once wants.
And every player is going to have years where statistically
he's not going to be the same. So that's going
to knock him down.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
A couple of pigs.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
And let's be totally honest, that Baltimore Ravens defense hasn't
really been what the Baltimore Ravens defense has been in
years past. And oh, by the way, you have a
monster running back in Derrick Henry Blood. He has a
proprisity to put the ball on the ground. So all
of that still counts against Lamar Jackson even win the
should but he's still.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
One of the top quarterback. It's in today's game.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I think the problem is Lebar, much like Josh Allen,
is not broken through the Super Bowl, and I think
that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
I think that's where this is.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Just like you gotta see the playoff the I don't
want to call it choke, because neither one of those
guys is a choker, but the lack of getting to
the big one after several tries, people start to doubt
you a little bit. And that's what happens now somehow
Josh Allen went up and Lamar went down. But you know,
that's that's what it felt like to me. It's just
he's gonna be starting over with a brand new crew.
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Declan Doyle gonna be running the offense there. Jesse Mentor
as a head coach.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Yeah, I think Mintro's head coach is gonna be Its
gonna be Legit.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Baltimore is gonna be the general defense.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I love what they do with that compress quarters thing,
but the offense is a giant question mark. With Declan
Doyle running the show, we don't know what it is
and so really couarly, I.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Think this is kind of a microcosm of having so
many quality quarterbacks in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
So guys who are going to be tough one.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Year, they're gonna be down the next year because the
quarterback play is so good, and that's probably that's kind
of one of the reasons where both Nicks.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Is where he is and it all comes down to
winning the big games in the playoffs, and neither of
those guys have done it yet.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
And five the new Herbert.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Joy, I don't know why he's so high on everyone's like, Oh, he's.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Good, that's why Oo Nicks wins in the playoffs. In
a video he posted on YouTube, Stefan Diggs claims that
he's better than every number two wide receiver in the league.
This on the heels of the man who accused Stefan
Diggs of sexual assault says he turned over one hundred
plus pages of text and Instagram dms between them to
support his claims in court.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Do you think Stefan Diggs is the best?
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Would be better than any number two option in the
NFL at wide receiver?
Speaker 4 (28:45):
And will any.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Team take a chance on him this season after all
the drama off the field.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I'm just not so.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Sure why we're specifying that it's number two instead of
an X disease, specifically with these allegations out there.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
But I'm gonna let that one go, you know, just you.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Know, I went in the bathroom, white poop and donuts.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Man.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Okay, Anyway, I don't think Stefan Diggs is better than
any of the team's number two at this moment because
he had an opportunity last year with the Patriots who
really showcase himself.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
But when you look at the.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Last time he saw him play, even though it was
against Seattle, he didn't look that great. I mean far
as level of rock running in separation, Now, could a
team lean on his level expertise at this point in
his career, Absolutely, he could be a team's number three
wide receiver like m Kwon Bolton was when he was
with the Baltimore Ravens at the tail end of his career.
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But in order for that to happen now we're talking
about dreaded injuries and training camp. But you never want
to be mentioned in that type of way as a player.
But I still believe that he can add value to
some team in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
But he's not a number two receiver right now.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
To add to that besides pooping donuts, yeah, I got,
I got, I mean you have to all that out.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Look, why he's he's worn out as welcome with how
many different teams. Now, he's clearly lost a little bit
from what he was in his prime. He might be
a number four or five guy at this point, but
I don't think you're banking on him as your as
your your sure fire number two where you got team
blind enough to do it.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
His biggest problem was CARDI p I think.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
One of the problem was Well, I think the biggest
problem my problemself.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
It's a wide receiver. Now, I don't think it was
card receiver.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
I mean, what's was he the was he don't what
do you guys say here?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
But yeah, don't.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I can see him his face.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
It's something that his brain was the same, but.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
His mouth is like, don't say, I just heard he
can't convert the tight end go to.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
ESPN reported that well, speaking of number two, ESPN reported
the battle for the Cleveland Brown starting QB job is
still wide open as training camp approaches. Which Browns QB
will win the week one starting QB job and which
Brown's QB will ultimately start the most games this season.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Well, I'm gonna lean towards shardor Sanders, right. And the
reason I'm gonna do that because we saw in Chador's
first year as a full starter and.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
That he made some great throws.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
And that's a quarterback who didn't really have the scheme
catered to him. And Skim Sefanski when he was there,
he was gonna given him first team rep. So it's
going to impact your level of development.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
And the reason another reason I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
This is because there's no guarantee that Deshaun Watson is
going to be healthy. He's had injuries on both sides
of his legs and left leg and right leg, and
that impacts your mobility. But I think it's going to
be shardor Sanders as being the leader in the clubhouse
for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I tend to go the other direction.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Watson's got experienced, he's you know, Monkin likes.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
That's not to say that that's the way you should go.
They own a ton of money, so they're gonna keep
him around because nobody's trading for that and they're not Cutdom.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
I mean, to me, it just feels like this winds
up being a Deshaun Watson until you can't play him anymore.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
And then Sama, why does that end up being Deshaun Watson?
Because he has.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Experience because you owe them a ton of money.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
He's got experience.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
I mean fucking much like Vance.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Joseph don't like players. Just like you said he could
beat the number two.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
There you go, he can beat the number two.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Is there breaking news you are?
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Twenty twenty six home Run Derby champion Jordan Walker Ober
Kyles Schwarber in the final round, hitting new format this year,
he hit six home runs in a row to take
the crown as home run Derby Town is home Run
Derby the best all star event, not game, but event
on an All Star weekend or week.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It used to be the Dunk competition, but that's gotten old,
probably probably.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Not even probably, It is by far the best one
because you build an entire night around one particular event.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
You pack out the stadium.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Everyone is coming to see who is going to win
the home Run Derby, right, because the guys that you
think coming into the Derby who may have the regular
season home run lead, sometimes they don't make it through
because they get tired, right. And then also, who's the
damn guy behind the net throwing you the ball? A
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lot of these guys like to bring their brother, their dad,
and if that guy's not throwing you the ball at
the perfect angle, knowing his old time is working against you.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Man, you're getting grounded, well, Jack CACLIONI brought his dad.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
He gave you through.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
He was you know, his dad was not exactly serving
him up great pitches there and so.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
But I tell you it served him up all right.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
But if I were, if I were, if it were me,
you bet your you bet your backside, I'd be bringing like,
you know, family, Oh, your dad for sure.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
No not my dad, but not.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Your dad, dad something somebody's dad for a quarter century.
But you know, you gotta give.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Them a disclaimer. I need the ball at this height.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Yeah, put the ball here, Yes, put it that I
can hit it out and they'll be trying to.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Bring that sauce over the corner and then show off
on National TV Broncus Country Night.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Put the back? What was the Dr Grant Chicks?
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Dig the long
Speaker 5 (34:31):
The long ball,
And someone nine said it's been twenty five percent of
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girls who play high school could get a college scholarship.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I believe that number. I believe it could be higher, actually,
but I believe that number. It's all about opportunities.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
The more opportunities you get the chance to display your ability,
the more people get a chance to see you, which
opens that door for possibly the most scholarship offers.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Yeah, and it's gonna be uh, it'll be fascinate anyway.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I've been over that twice.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I think that we as Americans would would benefit from
shaking up the way that we do.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Sports at the.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
At the high school levels, by disassociating it with school
and going to clubs and you know and doing that
kind of thing. And I think that that I think
would be immensely profitable. But we'll see, well, you know,
we'll see if that ever it gets the attraction.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Yeah, the Nuggets made a signing, by the way, Yes,
they get Alfa Yallo.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Signing him.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
He was in the what the EuroLeague I think it was, yes,
euro League. He's top defender, he was, and he got
a he had a contract where he was offered twice
the money to stay in.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
The euro League, and he came here instead. He wanted
to be in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Uh Diallo, by the way, played high school ball at
West here locally, never Colorado.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You look like that, Nick six ten? Nick has got
a look on his face. All right, So so you
over and.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I think it's Dubai you're playing, and they want to
give you two million dollars or whatever you unitate with
one point four here in Denver, and that's going to
after taxes be seven hundred thousand. Right. What I look
at it is saying okay, well, hey, you don't want
to turn out money like that. But he fills out.
He's twenty nine. This is to be his first opportunity
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playing pro ball here in the States, not overseas.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Drafted out of Providence back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
So you know, I know in sports, a just use
against you in the negative way. So he's realizing, look,
he has aspirations of playing in NBA.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
This could be his only opportunity.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
So he's trying to maximize the opportunity. And the Nuggets
need defenders on that second unit, So.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Signing a one year deal making.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Seven hundred thousand dollars after taxes if he does play
this right, and he plays right, meaning on the court,
this could actually change his life. Where another team, because
he only signed a one year deal right where another
team could say, you know what, he ain't don't worry
about going overseas.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
No, we got to.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
So hopefully it works out for him in that particular way,
because if it doesn't, he's gonna look back on and
me like, man, he lost out on some money in Dubai.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
He can always go back. Well, yeah, he can always
go back.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You think of that money.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Though.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
The other thing that's interesting to me is how much
he gets talked about his defense.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
He can score though, he scored forty one points in
the final two games in the in the Euro Final.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
When he's with the national team.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
He he started off with Timosa that he switched to
the Guinea national team. He averaged twenty four points a
game at feva's Approbaskt in twenty twenty five, twenty four points.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
A game playing for guineing like he could score too,
He's not. This isn't like Ben Wallace were gay at
four point.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Though, But this goes back to how much value do
you put over an international basketball in the level of competition,
And I say that in all due respect because I
know in the NBA a lot of players don't play defense.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, begin with right, and.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Also in Euroball, guys don't play that many minutes, like
you don't get that many minutes, and so like your
scoring averages are usually down. In European ball that he
was getting, he was getting decent minutes. He averaged fourteen
points to think it was a game or twelve points
a game.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
For Monico last year.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
But it's it's in Euroball that the scoring just isn't
as high, the pace of play is lower. They actually
play defense, and guys don't get as many minutes.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Well, he'd get a chance to, you know, put his
defensive acumen to the test because the Nuggets, that's one
area that they've been lacking is being able to defend.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I know it's always been a talk about Lebron, but
I don't know if this move would be one of
those moves.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
That enticed Lebron.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Lebron join.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So so I don't know, but good on Dillo. I
hope it works out for him.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I hope he can flip this one year deal into
most of the year deal either with Denver nuggets or
with someone of the team that not himself. Hey, sometimes you.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Gotta do it, or he hits that wrong side of thirty.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yes, and get to come home too. Did you play
high school ball at West here?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
I mean that that's gotta that's got to feel good
for you.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
H switching gears here at PS two. It's just obviously
the most dominant corner league. That's you know, he's on
all the lists. At least they're getting that right U.
This sumburb working out with the list of POLLUSA and
whatever else is going on.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Oh just wait for the sixth Oh my god, I
can't wait. That is Sarcasm is like a second language
to me, so hopefully you're right.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
There with me. Uh, why is he so dominant? Is it?
I mean?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Is it the fact that he's just got that size
and that speed?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Why is he so dominant? Man? It's a combination of
all of it.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
But everything, no matter what, whatever sport that you play,
it starts with mastering one thing first.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
It's footwork.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And Chad Bailey used to say when we played together,
is that you win on upfield routes by winning at
the line of scrimmage. And that's kind of an issue
that we see that Raleigh moss is dealing with. Right.
This is why he's targeted as much because the footwork,
now Raleigh Mosses is fast, but it's winning at the
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line of scrimmage. And if you watch any of the
videos of PS two over the years, that's where he
went on most of his routes. So much so teams said, okay,
well we may not be able to beat him in
the foot race vertically, so now they would double move
him or the biggest thing they do to him. And
you do this to real good corners. You take your
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top receiver, you take them off the ball, and you
put them in motion because knowing as though you are
your coverage defines kind of what you do. I'm in
man coverage. I have to maintain outside leverage. So if
you come in motion and you run across the field,
that's a long way for me to run and I'm
in tromo. So if it's a shallow route and I
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don't get help from the linebacker, now that guy beats me.
If it's a deep over route and I don't get
help from the safety in the middle of the field,
guess what.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You beat me.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, there's some for guys, especially if you're trying to
tire out a corner. I'm always a big fit because
everybody talks about just running burner routes to try to
tire him out. There's more than one way to skin
a cat man. Put it, put him in motion before
the snap, and then return them after the snap and
get that guy run the full length of field side
side the sideline and worry him out that way. If
you want to try to do it, now you know
they're a different wish to do that, and that is
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what it is. But you played with a corner that
was dominant. Champ Bailey was certainly dominant. How difficult is
it for the other corners when you've got a dominant
corner and they know the targets are coming their way
because nobody wants to throw at at the main guy.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, the idea was that you better get in the
code tub and you better get a lot of rest
that week because you're gonna do a lot of running
because the idea is that they're gonna target you. Because
when you look at one side of the field where
the was Rod Woodson, Charles Woodson.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Dion, Tom Thompson.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yes, yes, it didn't make a difference, because when you
know you have a bona fide shut down corner, team's
gonna look for other ways to kind of get their
office in the rhythm from a passing game standpoint, and
you're gonna get a lot of those targets. And like
I said, if you want to try to target an
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elite corner and you can't beat them vertically because of
how well they play the ball at the line of scrimmage,
on the snap, you put your guy in motion.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
That's how you beat him.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Because I remember really quickly PS two's first year here
with the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I remember it was like a walk.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Up touchdown for the Raiders, right, and Devonte Adams set him.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Up that cross your old game set him up perfectly hit.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
And I remember I told him after that game when
I was in the Broncos locker room, and I was like, look, man,
don't worry about that.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
You one hell of a corner.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
People on the outside who don't who don't know football,
they're going to make it a big story.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
But watching it, they did a great job of setting
it up. And I said, he would have got me too.
It was funny.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
It's funny you said that because I was in the
locker room after that.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And remember Justin Simmons.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Like yellow don't be going after PS two was his fault.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yes, you know, like I just know.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
This is This goes back to having a football eye
and understanding what you just saw, right And and once again,
the Raiders did a great job of scheming. But when
you have a skill set like that, individual is going
to try to find multiple ways to create opportunits for
their wide receivers. And here's the other other way that
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going back to the Coast game last year, the Coats
stated to the Denver Broncos they knew that they were
a good man press team because that added extra pressure
on the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So basically what they did.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
They started running crossers, pick routes.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
If the linebacker.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Doesn't step up to take one of those guys, someone's off.
Was just a good job of finding those particular goals receivers.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Like I wasn't the world's greatest quarterback, but that was
I loved run shallow crossery.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It was the easiest thing to do.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
All it's a keyd read.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Then if the linebacker doesn't pick it up, I'm you know,
all I'm looking is for who.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Comes open off the pick.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
But once again, exactly what you said is that it's
coming right directly in the line of vision of.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
The quarterback right, so he gets a chance to choose.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Now he's got a rob in his progression based on
the matchup right, but he can decide do I want
the guy coming from the right or the left. And
this is why when I played for the Denver Broncos,
we had to work this a lot. And this is
where the brilliance of Mike Shanahan being on offensive side
helped us on defense. How are they trying to attack us?
What we have to be alert for? And more importantly,
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like when we saw it last year, when the Broncos
defense was getting chewed up, they were getting chewed up.
And I go back to that That Coast game because
a lot of teams watch that game and build a
lot of their routes with their receivers and their running
backs off of that particular game. The biggest problem that
the Broncos secondary, the linebackers had. They didn't talk pre snap,
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they didn't talk. Everyone lined up, everyone knew their assignment.
But when gods started moving for some reason, you could
see the guys they knew what was going on, but
nothing ever came out of their mouth.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, and that's and that's so vital.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I mean watching if you can see a defense as
a communicating gu's when you do stuff like that, like,
for instance, if you're going to run a shallow crosser, right,
I love I love having like a gun two back
look putting both backs into a swing, because that puts
the linebackers into a bind right off the bat. If
I'm running the crossers in and the swing and the
backs out, how are you picking that up?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
And go back to the coach games. This is why
I'm bringing it up.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
What happened to Alex ingleson Jonathan Taile's.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Exactly And that's exactly what I'm trying to get out.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You get put out of position because you you're forced to.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Make a choice to choose. And so you know, I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Puting two backs out on a swing and I'm taking
my receivers and running them in.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Somebody like, somebody's going to be wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Somebody is going to be wrong unless you lett somebody
tap somebody on.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
The shoulder and says, we got to you know, we're
switching up here, you.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Know, drop off. I'm gonna take it.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
You're going to be wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
What's one of those routes would you prefer to to
if you had to let go?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
What would you would you lego?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Would you let the back coming out of the backfield
running that rail route or that that cross, that shallow cross?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Which one would you like? As the linebacker?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yes, well, I mean because you got two guys from.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
The If I'm the linebacker, I'm probably going with the
back because i can keep up with him, and I'm
hoping the safety back there just picks me up.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You know, it's either way. I've got to be wrong,
But like I would prefer, well, of.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Course you you definitely.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Prefer I would prefer to let the shallow cross go instead.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Of the rail road.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I'm a same as you.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
The reason I say that because on that rail route
there's no one out there.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
You're out there by yourself.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
The shallow cross, it's a shallow we can all see
it and react.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
You can buy it, that's right.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
And it would also depend on the cover shell, like
if you're if you're too high, then I'm gonna let
the As a defender, I'm gonna let the rail go.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
If you're one high. You gotta go, you have to
and that.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
That was the problem last year with the Denver Broncos,
and it's one of the reasons coming into the season
where some of the fans were like, I don't really
like the Broncos linebackers because they're.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Not as athletic. And I can tell you.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Even you don't watch singletons pretty athletic, dude, Yes, but
once again, you don't have to be. It helps if
you are a Roquan Smith or a Patrick Queen, of course, but.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
If you're ready to do it.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
But not every linebacker is that type of linebacker. So
this is why you have to understand before the ball
is snap, when you look at the formation defense are
you in, how are they trying to attack? You cannot
communicate with with that corner or that nickel because usually
there are rules in may coverage. Were like, you can
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only swat with like positions, dbs, with DB's, and some
teams don't allow you to do it with linebackers. But
I'm like, if I know my linebackers at a disadvantage
and he's and they're running that shallow cross right at
him to pick him because the back is offset, that's
the damn giveaway right there.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
The back is offset.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Right, and so that's there are little tips that you
need to and that's it all goes back to you
talking about communication. There are little tips and tricks that
you can you could pick up on that. Like if
if I saw if I was on the defensive side,
and again I played very little defense, and we've all seen.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Some of the results that was the defense.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
I think, yeah, because there was no tick happened I showed.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I think I showed you guys, like the whiffing on
a tackle one time or whatever. Show that video to
you and Steve. I don't remember if I should. You
know I showed Steve. But who will be in tomorrow
I believe?
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Is that the Nope, not in tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Wednesday?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
No, just shaking our head. He's off this week, He's
off this week.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
No Steve this week? Well I'm wrong. What are the
odds of that?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But I mean there are if you're if you were
in the gun, if if I'm running that with that
gun two back, with the double swings in the and
the shallow crosser, the inverted too though takes that all away.
And so but you've got to have a safety linebacker
communicating back there, communicate because that and that and that's
how that goes. So that's just one of those things
that I think is fascint Uh. Do we think Jade
Baron could potentially unseat one of these guys and get
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to the starting lineup?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Why when you say one of these guys, what do
you do? Well, he's not gonna unseat her tanks.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Okay, what we mean is Moss or McMillan.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I think they would be more of Moss because McMillan
is held down that spot for a while. When Jade
was drafted last year, that's what most of the people
in the media we're talking about, Well, he's being drafted
to take Jay Kwan's spot. But Jay mc and cheese was.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Like, oh not to day.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I'm the cheesiest right, this is not about to happen today,
and he's going to hold down that spot because he
can do a multitude of different things. If you're playing
in that position, you have to be great in coverage,
you have to be great in recognition, and you also
have to be a great tackler and a guy who
can blitz. That's not to say that John D. Barron
can't do that. He can, but I think for him
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it's better for him more outside, right, That's where I
think he can do the best for this team. And
that is one of the position battles I'm gonna be
looking forward to because Roley Moss is on expiring deal, right,
so this this is make a break time for him
and he has to show.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
That both technically because McMillan got yeah, yeah, they're both
gonna be free.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
So you say, well, what's one of those guys? Would
you say, Well, the Broncos will be okay if they lost.
I would say, Roley Moss, you have to be a
dignified dog to play in that nick who spot.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
And I think McMillan does a great job.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yes, you know, I think he honestly be the best
corner we've had a nickel corner we've had since Chris Harris.
With all due respect to to Bryce Callahan. You know,
he's he's done really really well in that spot, and
so especially last year, I mean, he was just he
was such a dog last year after this and it
was kind of weird because the coaching staff was kind
of dogging him a little bit, saying he wasn't the
you know, the you know the B plus player he
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thought he was.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
He was more of a you know, a C plus player,
and then he had to show that.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Then he came up and showed he was B plus
plus player, A plus if you're in the playoffs. So
you know, yeah, in Moss, that situation, I mean, I
think Riley gets unfairly maligned. Sometimes I think he gets.
I think he gets I think he's flagged for playing
corner will being white.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Sometimes no, no, no, Ben, that he.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Gets flagged play corner, gets flagged for playing corner opposite
bets Erta.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
He gets flagged for defensive.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Of those were.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Some of those, like that Trey Lot burs't player whatever
like that. Dude was putting clutch defense down.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Anytime you reach, you reach.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
When the guy has a step on you, they don't
get you. Every single time, Yeah, every single time. Can't
get caught with your hand in the cookie job.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Well we're gonna put boxing gloves on him or something
doing to that. We got a break six pack, we
come back. I'm the easiest, so one not.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Only two weeks till camp.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
You guys sick of silly top twenties or quarterback surveys. Ben,
I'm glad you were totally wrong about England Mexico match.
Maybe the best game of the tournament. Keep up the
good work. Well, I didn't say wasn't gonna be the game.
I just was on the wrong side of that one.
I hit England in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I'm excuse me. I had Mexico in England died up?
What again? So I mean I you chose in Mexico.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I chose Mexico too because I thought it was gonna
be a little awkward.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
For England at the elevation and the way.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
That's a proper assessment looking at what the athletes were
going to have to deal with.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
But if you watch it, if you and if you
watch that game, they Mexico lost it because for two reasons. One,
they're they're center midfield stinks, they have no vision, they
don't know how to how.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
To get all four to the right spots.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
And then every their entire offense was wing play with
service into the box to one guy and New England
figured that out pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Well, yeah, same thing that Norway was trying to do
there at the end against England too.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
We can play with service enter the box for one
guy and you're just not going to beat England play
like that.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
So with that, this gets beautiful sixpect.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
It's time for the NFL six. Pat I'm gonna trace
a lot of beer, insight and inside information you can't
find anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
The top six NFL headlines.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
What well, speaking of the World Cup and England, the
World Cup semifinals begin tomorrow, France and Spain at one
o'clock mountain time, and then England and Argentina at one
o'clock mountain time on Wednesday. Who do you want to
advance to the finals, Who do you think advances to
the finals and who wins it all? Well?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Uh, personally, I want Spain to win. I like the
Spanish team a lot. I think Argentina too messy on
the way out would be kind of cool, you know,
I know you know that this kind of played out.
I know there's that whole like do they favor Argentina
and all that.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Kind of stuff. I get all that.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I don't really care for the England Argentina side. You
either one's fine by me, Hurricane or MESSI on the
way out. I'm I'm fine with that, but I want
Spain to win. I do think they can win against France.
Francy is favored in that in that match, that's France
Spain's tomorrow, I believe, and then England Argentina Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
You know what, I would love to see a storebook
ending with Messi which has led to a lot of
ten to four. I had theories about FIFA trying to
make this all take place. But this is a great
four team field and England hasn't won it in years
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I think it maybe sixty years, right, So there's a
lot of storylines, so I would say I would like to.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
See England winning.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I would like to see England win it.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Also, yes against France, though.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Against France, but I think it may be Argentina in Spain.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And the fis what I kind of my gut says
Argentina Spain in the final.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
And you know, we were talking.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
About this a little bit off the air before and
they don't show me the money during Kiwi Sports.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
But Shelby was talking about Spain as a possession team.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
They are, but they do make it rain on goal too.
Like they are a possession team, they take a lot
of shots, you know, So let's don't don't discount the Spanish.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Don't discount the over.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
In that one.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
This say they are they play a really short possession style,
but uh, they're eleventh of goals in the tournament. You'd
be eleven goals in turn, seventh in goals in the tournament,
and third and shots like they do they make it rain.
Interestingly enough, they'll be up against France who's number one
in shots on goal two.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
So actually the football we always care about, not every
forty years and those lists that you love. Quinn Minors
returned to ESPN's annual rankings of the top ten players
at each position sourced from nfl GM scouts and coaches
as the NFL's fourth best and tier offensive lineman. He
was just behind Creed Humphrey, Quenton Nelson, and Tyler Smith.
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Do you think this is a fair ranking for mine?
And then what else about the list stands out to you?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Well, Nick, what do you what do you think here?
I like where Quinn Miners is.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I still think that he doesn't get a lot of
the respect that he deserves. And also too, there's more
that you can squeeze from Quinn Miners as far as
getting him out pulling and getting him out front on
some of those gidget gadget type plays. But but you're
looking at this list. I like where he is because
there's room for improvement, and guess what, he has the
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potential to be higher on this list once the Broncos
get the run game going this season two as well.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, it's it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
I don't know that I would have had Tyler Smith
number one.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I probably would have had Nelson and Humphrey won and two,
then Tyler Smith, then probably Joe Tony than Quinn Minor
so I think those are the right five guys. I
personally would have a little bit of a different order.
I like Quinn there at four, and there's an argument
at five, there's an argument at three.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I get that.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I think it's it's a fair ranking. I think it's
he's in that tier. But Tyler Smith at number one
is weird to me. I would have had Quentin Nelson
or Cree Humphrey there. I think they're better interior linements.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
What do you think.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
About partner Gabriel's comments earlier in the show about Broncos
maybe looking at moving on from bim Powers by the
end of training camp. You think there's some reality to
that comment.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, I mean he's on expiring deal.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
They brought him back through the continuity here.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
If one of these guys steps up and is able
to jump into that spot, I think they'll absolutely look
to get something for him and move on there.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
They've got to figure out how to get that line cheaper.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
They're paying everybody. They're about to have to pay bo Nicks.
You can't afford to do that.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
You just can't pay everybody in your.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Line, full receivers, multiple running backs, a quarterback, your entire defense. Like,
you're gonna have to get cheaper. And that's one of
the places they're gonna have to get cheap.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I mean, that's the price of doing business in the NFL,
right if you beant a rookie deal.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
You can listen if you were saying that your offensive
line is one of the best, and I think if
Pro Football Focus had him ranked as being one of
the better offensive line. And that was all due in
part because the low number of sacks that they had
given up, But that wasn't just duing part to this
skill set. That was due to number ten, who the Broncos,
like Ben said, they're gonna have to pay.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Him three for the first time in his career, Josh
Allen was voted as the NFL's best quarterback in those
same ESPN rankings, dethroning Patrick Mahomes. Of course we talked
earlier Bo Nicks number eighteen on the list, Caleb Williams
and Drake May in that same draft class at number
ten and number eight. What do you think of Alan
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knocking Mahomes out of the top spot. And I saw
earlier today on get Up that they were comparing the
Mahomes and Allen rivalry to Brady and Peyton Manning. Do
you think that's a fair comparison and Josh Allen at
number one, dethroning Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I think Josh Allen's got to get to or within
some Super bowls before that comparison is in vote. I mean,
Peyton Manning and Tom Brady both had Super Bowls, you.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Know that Ston Manning's first Super Bowl win and year nine,
which Josh Allen is going in.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
But he'd been to the Super Bowl. You know, I
should have gotten there.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Josh is can't get there yet, I think, I mean, honestly,
i'd had Matt Stafford at number one. You know, I mean,
as mind boggling as it is to say at this point,
because he can't move.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I think he does more.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
You know, yeah, I might even have Burrow up in
that conversation if he hadn't gotten hurt Sidar much, you
know hit. What he does without a defense is incredible.
I don't know that I have Jared Goff and Keleb
Williams at nine and ten. That's a little weird to me,
and Trick Bay that high with bow that lowe as
little weird to me.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Probably have Justin Herbert hired Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Otherwise, I mean, I don't have too many bones to
pick with that top ten.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Well, looking at it is like who is the flashyest
of the top three quarterbacks? Like I agree with Matthew
Stafford being the eldest statesman because remember coming into the
last season, I mean he was out with the back entry,
and look at all the crazy things that he was
able to do at this stage of his career. But
I think we only talking about Patrick Mahomes and Josh
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Allen because to me, right now they're perceived as being
the faces of the NFL. And Patrick Mahomes did not
look like Patrick Mahomes last season.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
That's that was before the injury.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
But there's something special about Josh Allen and his skill set.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
The only thing that he's missing right now is a
Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
And I'm sure that if you asked him, he would
be willing to give up every acco lady had for
that particular honor, because if he does, and he was
able to do it, he would now become the god
of Niagara Falls because he would that would have done
something Jim Kelly couldn't do.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Yeah, I'll bring that first Super Bowl game Buffalo in
their new stadium with the Bison outside.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Yes, around that video.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
He got lifted. Man, Okay, here's here's and it's just
not meant to be political, but bear with me for
a second. So I shaw the news that Lindsey Graft
passed away right as I saw that video, and I
thought that he had died. For the briefest moments forgetting
I thought he was the guy in the.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Video, was the one that got tossed the Biffalo and tossed.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Him in the video.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Well, in a couple of weeks, we can toss out
all these dumb lists.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
But here's what more for you.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
After ranking as a top two player in each of
the NFL's Top one hundred player lists.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Last last two years.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Right, yeah, Lamar Jackson tumbled all the way to sixty
ninth nice in this year's edition of the rankings.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
What do you make of.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
That Jackson fall in the list And.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Is this the start of his decline as an NFL player?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
No, it's not the start of his decline. And guess what.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
In order for you to decline, you have to be
really high on the list, and that's where he once wants.
And every player is going to have years where statistically
he's not going to be the same. So that's going
to knock him down.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
A couple of pigs.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
And let's be totally honest, that Baltimore Ravens defense hasn't
really been what the Baltimore Ravens defense has been in
years past. And oh, by the way, you have a
monster running back in Derrick Henry Blood. He has a
proprisity to put the ball on the ground. So all
of that still counts against Lamar Jackson even win the
should but he's still.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
One of the top quarterback. It's in today's game.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I think the problem is Lebar, much like Josh Allen,
is not broken through the Super Bowl, and I think
that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
I think that's where this is.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Just like you gotta see the playoff the I don't
want to call it choke, because neither one of those
guys is a choker, but the lack of getting to
the big one after several tries, people start to doubt
you a little bit. And that's what happens now somehow
Josh Allen went up and Lamar went down. But you know,
that's that's what it felt like to me. It's just
he's gonna be starting over with a brand new crew.
(27:30):
Declan Doyle gonna be running the offense there. Jesse Mentor
as a head coach.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Yeah, I think Mintro's head coach is gonna be Its
gonna be Legit.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Baltimore is gonna be the general defense.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I love what they do with that compress quarters thing,
but the offense is a giant question mark. With Declan
Doyle running the show, we don't know what it is
and so really couarly, I.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Think this is kind of a microcosm of having so
many quality quarterbacks in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
So guys who are going to be tough one.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Year, they're gonna be down the next year because the
quarterback play is so good, and that's probably that's kind
of one of the reasons where both Nicks.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Is where he is and it all comes down to
winning the big games in the playoffs, and neither of
those guys have done it yet.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
And five the new Herbert.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Joy, I don't know why he's so high on everyone's like, Oh, he's.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Good, that's why Oo Nicks wins in the playoffs. In
a video he posted on YouTube, Stefan Diggs claims that
he's better than every number two wide receiver in the league.
This on the heels of the man who accused Stefan
Diggs of sexual assault says he turned over one hundred
plus pages of text and Instagram dms between them to
support his claims in court.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Do you think Stefan Diggs is the best?
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Would be better than any number two option in the
NFL at wide receiver?
Speaker 4 (28:45):
And will any.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Team take a chance on him this season after all
the drama off the field.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I'm just not so.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Sure why we're specifying that it's number two instead of
an X disease, specifically with these allegations out there.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
But I'm gonna let that one go, you know, just you.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Know, I went in the bathroom, white poop and donuts.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Man.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Okay, Anyway, I don't think Stefan Diggs is better than
any of the team's number two at this moment because
he had an opportunity last year with the Patriots who
really showcase himself.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
But when you look at the.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Last time he saw him play, even though it was
against Seattle, he didn't look that great. I mean far
as level of rock running in separation, Now, could a
team lean on his level expertise at this point in
his career, Absolutely, he could be a team's number three
wide receiver like m Kwon Bolton was when he was
with the Baltimore Ravens at the tail end of his career.
(29:42):
But in order for that to happen now we're talking
about dreaded injuries and training camp. But you never want
to be mentioned in that type of way as a player.
But I still believe that he can add value to
some team in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
But he's not a number two receiver right now.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
To add to that besides pooping donuts, yeah, I got,
I got, I mean you have to all that out.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Look, why he's he's worn out as welcome with how
many different teams. Now, he's clearly lost a little bit
from what he was in his prime. He might be
a number four or five guy at this point, but
I don't think you're banking on him as your as
your your sure fire number two where you got team
blind enough to do it.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
His biggest problem was CARDI p I think.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
One of the problem was Well, I think the biggest
problem my problemself.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
It's a wide receiver. Now, I don't think it was
card receiver.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
I mean, what's was he the was he don't what
do you guys say here?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
But yeah, don't.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I can see him his face.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
It's something that his brain was the same, but.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
His mouth is like, don't say, I just heard he
can't convert the tight end go to.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
ESPN reported that well, speaking of number two, ESPN reported
the battle for the Cleveland Brown starting QB job is
still wide open as training camp approaches. Which Browns QB
will win the week one starting QB job and which
Brown's QB will ultimately start the most games this season.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Well, I'm gonna lean towards shardor Sanders, right. And the
reason I'm gonna do that because we saw in Chador's
first year as a full starter and.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
That he made some great throws.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
And that's a quarterback who didn't really have the scheme
catered to him. And Skim Sefanski when he was there,
he was gonna given him first team rep. So it's
going to impact your level of development.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
And the reason another reason I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
This is because there's no guarantee that Deshaun Watson is
going to be healthy. He's had injuries on both sides
of his legs and left leg and right leg, and
that impacts your mobility. But I think it's going to
be shardor Sanders as being the leader in the clubhouse
for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I tend to go the other direction.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Watson's got experienced, he's you know, Monkin likes.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
That's not to say that that's the way you should go.
They own a ton of money, so they're gonna keep
him around because nobody's trading for that and they're not Cutdom.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
I mean, to me, it just feels like this winds
up being a Deshaun Watson until you can't play him anymore.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
And then Sama, why does that end up being Deshaun Watson?
Because he has.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Experience because you owe them a ton of money.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
He's got experience.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
I mean fucking much like Vance.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Joseph don't like players. Just like you said he could
beat the number two.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
There you go, he can beat the number two.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Is there breaking news you are?
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Twenty twenty six home Run Derby champion Jordan Walker Ober
Kyles Schwarber in the final round, hitting new format this year,
he hit six home runs in a row to take
the crown as home run Derby Town is home Run
Derby the best all star event, not game, but event
on an All Star weekend or week.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It used to be the Dunk competition, but that's gotten old,
probably probably.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Not even probably, It is by far the best one
because you build an entire night around one particular event.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
You pack out the stadium.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Everyone is coming to see who is going to win
the home Run Derby, right, because the guys that you
think coming into the Derby who may have the regular
season home run lead, sometimes they don't make it through
because they get tired, right. And then also, who's the
damn guy behind the net throwing you the ball? A
(33:39):
lot of these guys like to bring their brother, their dad,
and if that guy's not throwing you the ball at
the perfect angle, knowing his old time is working against you.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Man, you're getting grounded, well, Jack CACLIONI brought his dad.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
He gave you through.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
He was you know, his dad was not exactly serving
him up great pitches there and so.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
But I tell you it served him up all right.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
But if I were, if I were, if it were me,
you bet your you bet your backside, I'd be bringing like,
you know, family, Oh, your dad for sure.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
No not my dad, but not.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Your dad, dad something somebody's dad for a quarter century.
But you know, you gotta give.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Them a disclaimer. I need the ball at this height.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Yeah, put the ball here, Yes, put it that I
can hit it out and they'll be trying to.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Bring that sauce over the corner and then show off
on National TV Broncus Country Night.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Put the back? What was the Dr Grant Chicks?
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Dig the long
Speaker 5 (34:31):
The long ball,
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