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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Did you shut me off again on purpose?

Speaker 2 (00:01):
That was all you brother?

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Well then I'm the idiot.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
But you get heard of making fun of Nick right
at the beginning. It always it always comes back and
bite you. Right, you make fun of it, that always
comes back.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
You ever care for karma? As they say? You know what? Yes?

Speaker 3 (00:13):
I uh, he's yes. I If I believed in karma,
then I suppose I would have something to do with that.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
I believe in Carmen San Diego. Where in the world issue?
I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
You remember that it was the little band the dudes
that were singing what dudes? Uh, well like a Karma
san Rocapella? You ever do it rockapella?

Speaker 4 (00:34):
And then they just were oh yeah, yah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes,
I do recall that once small morning.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
When happened to Rockapella. Are they're still around?

Speaker 1 (00:44):
I don't think so. I don't think so. I have
to look that up later. What did happened that they
were like Pentatonics though? Right, well, yeah, they didn't say
they didn't use any instruments.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
It was Platonics is a group that they didn't they
don't use instruments either, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Right, it's a cappella but Rockapella is what they called
themselves or whatever. I wonder if they're still around. I really,
I mean, there was like, from what understood, it was
like an evolving lineup or something so interesting. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Apparently they're still who knew.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
They?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
In fact, they changed in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Somebody left the group and a couple of people left
the group, and now they've got all the members.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
So I guess they It's one of those groups that
passes on, that keeps passing on.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
They keep changing. I guess. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
You.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I think the NBA is saying goodbye to the Big
three concepts.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, yeah, I think so.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
I mean, shouldn't they based on what we're seeing with
these escalating contracts, because once before that was kind of
the model. Try to get a collection of NBA All
stars together, put them on the same team, and hope
that your that talent that you put together would be
better than any of the talent that you're facing. That

(01:53):
was once upon a time, that was a model, right,
I mean, especially as of late, and I'm back in.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
The nineties, eighties and ninety these that was unheard of.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
But yeah, after that, a lot of people a lot
of teams are doing it. But looking at this current
free agencycle looking at the whole situation that took place
with Jylen Brown, Brad Stevens and the Celtics and known
as though they needed to move on from guys with
having match deals. I mean now teams are looking to

(02:23):
plug and play and build their roster with I guess
low payment guys. I mean, look at what happened with
the New York Knicks, and we know how this works
in sports. Someone does something that seems to be a
little unorthodox and go outside the traditional frame of things,
and they win and everyone wants to copy it. So

(02:44):
that could be a model that teams are looking at.
Now you get maybe one prime time star and you
just have other fillers, if you will, that's around them,
that are specialized guys.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
I think you need one elite guy, one like an
All Star All Star barely at the edge of the
All Star, you know, kind of conversation, and then you
need guys around that that fill whatever other roles those
two guys don't fill, you know, Like, I think that's
the formula. At this Beed one guy was the guy,
but within the context of that, you still need three

(03:17):
or four guys that can shoot because somebody's gonna have
it off night, right of course. And so that was
the problem with the Spurs is the guy that they
had for that was hurt and they just didn't have
anybody else, Like, they got nothing else they got. They
had nobody to score. They could play defense, but they
had nobody that could shoot reliably. Mean, Champage was probably
their best perm of their shooter, but they just didn't
have people who can shoot reliably out there. And in

(03:39):
the modern NBA you have to, I mean, you've you've
got to have three or four guys that can shoot
because somebody's gonna have it off night.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Well, I mean that's what made Okay See so great
in their run.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Right, because they got eleven guys that can shoot.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Yeah, and not just eleven guys that can shoot, they
have like six or eight guys from Vince to role player,
two starters who were willing to play defense.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
And yes, obviously, but I'm just saying that they had
on top of that, they had guys that could shootout.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
See.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
This is the model that I believe the Denver Nugget
should take into consideration because you have that guy that
one marquee guy in Nicolajoki.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
And you've got that second guy in Jamal Murray.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
So now this is once again you may not agree
with me, but taking this philosophy saying maybe that the
Nuggets shouldn't look to pay Peyton Watson because they've already
done that with Kristin Brown.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Watson's better, I know he is, but the die has
been cast.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Like like, if you told me that they can move
Christian Brown and get some draft capital in exchange or
maybe a player. Yeah, but you you're already you know,
beholden to that contract.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
With Christen Brown.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
So if you add Peyton Watson to that, now you're
really pushing your salary can a really high. So take
the model of having the top plane in Nicola jokicch
you got your all star guy with Jamal Murray, and
then you started to fill in the roster with the
three and D type of guys.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Well, did they guna have to find those?

Speaker 3 (05:15):
That's what I say, because because Tim Hardaway's gone Peyton Watson,
you're suggesting don't pay Are you keeping Cameron Johnson?

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah? Okay, because Cameron Johnson.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Jamal Murray the only the other two guys who shot
about forty percent from.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
The arc last year for the Nuggets.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
I mean in a different world, I would say no,
but being as well, where the Nuggets are right now, yeah,
you keep them. It may it may not seem like
a very popular move, but at this point, I mean.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Your hands were high.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Your next best perimeter shooter last year was Spencer Jones. No,
you know, Strawther was supposed to be that guy. He
was a thirty eight percent shooter from outside. I liked Strawther's.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Game as being a guy that can solidify your second unit.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
I like that portion.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
He's got to get more consistent downtown.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
You can't hit thirty eight percent and then and be
you know that that's not that's not get it done.
I mean Aaron Gordon was shooting better from the perimeter
than than Strather was.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Well, wouldn't that be more about defining his role because
he's coming in in the second unit and sometimes they
may play him, uh limited minutes with the first team.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Now it was in that in that in that role, Well,
he's a fifteen minute game guy. Though, you got you gotta,
you gotta. I mean, if you're gonna be a bench guy,
you got to come in and hit I catch.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Your role, well doud, okay, well how about them changing
his role? Then?

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Okay, if you know that that's not his strong put
what moving.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Christian Brown of the bench because he was a thirty
shooter for the last year, which is abysmal.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Once again, you're trying to maximize your roster and squeeze
all the jews out of the players based on what
they do and how they fit your overall scheme. Krista Brown,
we know he's a very active person, active player.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Right for me, he's a six man playing this shouldn't
be a starting lineup.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
That's fine.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
So since you know that, you play him in that
six man role, right, and then now you put pieces
around him. So when Nikola Joki Jamal Murray go to
the bench, you have a guy who's really active on
the defensive side of the ball. And we just say,
just like in football you have a third down specialist.
You are a specialist. Now we know you don't have
the defensive pride was like Aaron Gordon, but we want

(07:25):
you to be active, active, hands aggressive, even if that
means that you come in and you get a couple
of files. That's perfectly fine, Yeah, we're not worried about it.
You're right, it can be. Tim Patrick was a third
down specialist. Yes, you could be that, and I think
that's where Brown is at his best. I just him
in the starting lineup didn't work. He was a thirty
percent shooter from the arc.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
And if you're going to be in that starting lineup
and be that dude and you can't create your own shot,
you're gonna have to shoot.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Better than that.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, And sometimes sometimes to motivate players bless you to
be better is to sit them sometime, give someone else
your minutes. So when you go on a game, you
know how valuable your ten to fifteen minutes are and
you want to make sure you maximize those minutes. So push,
come to shove, someone gets injured, someone needs a breather.

(08:12):
They stick you in that starting lineup, and then now
you can you can go ham then because now that
you've earned it. But I'm hoping that the Nuggets come
up with that type of model. But looking at the
current NBA is currently constructed, a lot of teams are
going to have to think that way.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Speaking of ways, the NBA is currently constructed, the second
apron in the NBA salary cap. Is it good for
the league? Is just hurting teams that can't keep their
own players?

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Like? Is this something that's sustainable?

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Like in the end, to me, the NFL's got it
right with how they do the salary cap for equitability
and all that kind of stuff. There are some tweaks
I would make to some of the NFL rules and
all that kind of stuff, but they've got the basic
blueprint down and it's obvious they're the most successful league
out there. If you're the NBA, why wouldn't you adopt
that rather than all these convoluted, complicated ap and luxury
taxes and everything else.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
There's a simpler way.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
To do this because not everyone is an agreement with
that particular model, and why not. I would say some
teams are willing to get into the second apron like, well, okay, well,
if we're gonna have to pay an extra I don't know,
let's just say sixty million dollars or whatever, we're willing

(09:24):
to pay.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Because the teams that are wealthy enough that A.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Will trying to buy a championship, ye, right, because they
know they have the fan base and they've been so
productive over the years and I know this, this is
crazy saying it. Who cares eating ninety million dollars. If
you know that you're gonna have a pact arena, you're
gonna have multiple sponsors that are polling revenue into your organization,

(09:49):
So what And if we made that financial sacrifice all
with the purpose of winning a championship, who cares?

Speaker 3 (09:58):
If you've got the financial resources, Okay, but not every
team does. And I would tell you that there are
more teams in the NBA that don't and should be voting.
They're voting against themselves by continuing to vote along those lines.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
I totally get it. I totally understand it.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Maybe it would take more teams kind of having these
types of losses and missing the playoffs and watching other
teams within their division get to playoff games, multiple playoff
games and there us a win titles for them to say,
you know what, maybe we need to change this thing,
Maybe we need to do something different. So who knows,

(10:38):
but I know currently right now, the NBA is going
to have to do something because you're not going to
have many of these teams that having three players on
max contracts. No, let me those days ago, let.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Me, let me bring this back to football for just
a second, and I'll say this, the NFL is terrified
that the NBA.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Does copy them and go to salary caple.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
You know why. Why is that?

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Because the NBA has fully guaranteed contracts in the NFL
right now says that's not doable under the system that
we have. If the NBA were to switch to their
model with fully guaranteed contracts, it would expose the NFL
that they fully guaranteed contracts are absolutely doable and would
up end the Apple cart.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Well, okay, so let's be this is not an apples
to Apple's comparison.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
It's not I'm saying. The NFL.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
I'm telling you I know this from people up there
in the league are absolutely petrified that the that the
NBA adopts something very similar to what the what the
NFL does.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Well, but here's an escape hatch for the NFL, because
the NFL can say, well, while we don't have a
policy where we give guarantee contracts, we give a lot
of guaranteed money. There are more guys making a large
portion of the pot and guaranteed.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Money than there were, especially in my era.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Right this massive amount of guarantee money, and they can say, look,
we're not guaranteeing the guy's entire contract, but we're guaranteeing
a significant.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Amount of money.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Right, So that could be their way of, I guess,
skirting around the rules so to say, well, we don't
have to do it for every single player.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
And then also, let's be totally honest.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
An NBA and Major League Baseball, even hockey, the number
of players on a given roster is entirely different.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
It is they are on an NFL roster, right, Major
League Baseball rosters what twenty five except when it moves
up to the forty man. Yes, you know, a typical
basketball roster is what fifteen maybe eighteen if you've got
injured guys, and what you.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Have maybe over two hundred million plus dollars to give
away to fifteen guys.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
But but NBA salaries are higher than the NFL soor
Major League.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Baseball, you know, like every truth something that because of that.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
But I will say the NFL is terrified that the
NBA and Major League Baseball eventually adopt similar salary cap
and structure to what they do, because it would go
to show that the major sports leagues can do fully
guaranteed contracts in.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Which the league has been inching and inching towards.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Although the torch bayer that they had on this thing
set the player back into Sean Watson.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
The torch bearer on that set that back because if
Watson had come in and played well, Kyler Murray would
have been the next one.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Well, I mean that the league was upset with. I
think Jimmy has them by given to Shawn.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Watson owners work because they didn't want that to happen,
but it was. It was trending towards Okay, Kyler Murray,
justin Herbert Russell Wilson, these guys are all gonna get
fully guaranteed deals. But see this is and then they
saw the disaster that was Watson that they got saddled with,
and no, and they used that as we can't, we
just can't do this.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
But this is why if that ever happened, where guys
would get guaranteed deals, I think it's gonna be positional base.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
And this is gonna be positional base.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
That guy who's getting the most guaranteed money quarterbacks, Well,
it's kind of built that way.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
It's trending that.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Way, has been that way.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
It's gonna continue to be that way until people figure
out that you know you can, You're gonna either gonna
have to have somebody a quarterback take less like Tom
Brady did in.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Order to keep the dynasty alive.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Come on, well, thirty two quarterbacks, and of the thirty
two quarterbacks, maybe he's really ten to twelve really good ones.
And you're asking them to say, hey, man, you know
you got your buddy over here.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Who's who's a nutritionist and we're gonna pay him under
the table.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
I mean, we didn't know what we ever do then.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Alex Squero, you quack hey to wait now, to be transparent,
the TB twelve method was actually working for a lot
of New England Patriots at that time.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
I'm not saying that that that doesn't but what I'm
saying is that Alex Guero is a quack.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
Hey, a quack that kept a lot of players on
the field.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
They presented himself as a doctor.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
He made fake claims that curing cancer aids, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, arthritis, Parkinson's.
He got sued by the FTC for the Supreme Greens
nonsense that he had running. He was an infomercial guy
that somehow got his claws into Tom Brady and.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Well, once again, there it is right there with everything
that you just led kind of led with the one
thing that trump's all of that TV twelve. You have
a very famous player who was doing well, who was
having issues that he saw you and he felt as
though you contribute to him feeling much better, and he

(15:19):
was able to go out there and execute. He became
a vocal mouthpiece for you, and then other players started
to join because guess what when you're talking about love
of competition, and we know how people feel about the
NFL when a player reached a certain age or he's
having elements with his body, they're gonna kick you to
the curve. But if Tom's got a guy like they

(15:39):
keep you on the field. I don't care. If he's
telling you, hey man, just eat regular Kellogg's corn flakes
and you'd be good.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Guess what everyone's.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Eating regular guse Yes, Yeah, that Guerol benefited from Tom
Brady being, you know, getting suckered by the guy, not
from you know, not that his stuff actually wore. I
mean you can look another stuff actually works that he
that he but out there, I mean it's it's ludicrous.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
What's the I think.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
I think Tom, if he were sitting here right now.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
The power of belief is certainly hanging.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
He would disagree with you because he left New England
when they say that he couldn't win another Super Bowl,
and he won another one against the baby Goat.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Had nothing to do with alec At. Alex Quero had
with a goat. Tom Brady, Oh wow, Roccus Country.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Then back into the.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Break, there were people chiming in on contracts not being
fully guaranteed. Brian asks if Shootoor is ever gonna get
a fully guaranteed contract because it was Jersey sales. I
don't think that's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
We'll see.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Several people liked the idea of coach Gruden to see
you if prime left, I mean he's see you.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
And Collin's football is betil.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Giannest is based on characters, and John Grutin has one
of the most favorous characters.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
There are the that would certainly be interesting.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
I don't know, Well, we'll have to see if you
would ever be interested in that.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Well that let's get the NFL six pac.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
It's time for the NFL sixth path.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Tom gonna trade a lot of beer.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
The guys inside information you can't find anywhere else. No.
Six the top six NFL headlind what starting with your favorites?

Speaker 5 (17:15):
In the NFL's annual Top one hundred players list take
poted on by the players ranked Courtland Sutton as the
sixty eighth best player in the NFL, one spot ahead
of Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Which I still think is a joke. But Cortland Sutton's
first time on the NFL Top one undred list.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
What do you make of this ranking, per court and
do you think the addition of Jalen Wattle will help
or hurt his production this season?

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Well, you gonna help his production, and I think teams
earlier are going to roll coverage on Wad. Well, then
I think.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
That'll help Courtland get a lot of one on ones early.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
I think him at Ingram, you know, early in the season,
if you're a fantasy guy, I think those are the
two guys, and then Wada will eventually get his with
team's fear back to, you know, to cover them. As
far as him being the sixty eighth best player in
the league, I don't know that I agree with that
better than Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
I don't know that I agree with that, but good
for Courtland.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
I mean, hey, good for Corland making the list, Good
for Courland getting getting worried Gott.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
And I'm not trying to take anything, not trying to
take any of the shine.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Well, it's great for Courland to be on this particular list,
and it's great to always be recognized by your peers
for you know, the things that you bring on the
field every single season. And for Courtland, Yes, his numbers
should be much better this year than they've been in
year's past. Last year, one hundred and twenty four targets.
I think Jalen wado if had the number correct when

(18:27):
he was with the Miami Dolphins, I think he had
maybe ninety four or one hundred targets. But that duo
will benefit one another. Jalen Waddell being able to stretch
the defense will allow like I said, three phases vertically,
Jalen waddle the width is Marvin Mems in the depth.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Courtland Sudden.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
Now we've talked about it before on this show, that
this may be courts last year with the Broncos.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
He's going to be top.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
Five and basically every wide receiver category by the end
of this year.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Do you think he's a Ring of Famer for the Broncos.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Probably yeah, but if they went a Super Bowl for sure,
probably yeah, probably a Ring a Favor for the profess.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Well, we can't talk ring or Famer a wide receiver
without talking Ed freaking mccaffie.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
Mind past ed McCaffrey with nine more.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Catches in the fact that Eddie's not up there is a
crime crime revenue. Absolutely silly.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
Two and NFL dot COM's rankings of the league's strongest
and weakest divisions, the a f C West ranked as
the third strongest division, behind the NFC North.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
And NFC West. Do you think the a f C
West is the toughest division in the a f.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
C And what's the weakest division and the entire NFL?

Speaker 4 (19:43):
I would say started with the weakest. It would be
the NFC South.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Uh that's also at NFL dot Com.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Okay, so the toughest would be are the AFC West
because if you look at how competitive the teams have been.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
In the entire NFL, well, what yeah, I mean, or
just in the a f C and AFC because you
would have to if you wanted to say, well, a
division that was maybe considered to be the strongest.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
I would have to go with the NFC West, Yeah, right,
that that would that would be a division, and his
was crazy about it. When you look within that division,
there's a whole lot of Mike set of hand branches
in that particular division. But AFC West is pretty difficult
by itself.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, I think I think the f C West and
the NFC West both fit that dragon mem that have
like the three vicious heads and the one goofy head.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Whither the Raiders and the Carginals, you know, like I.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Think honestly though, the toughest division is probably the NFC North.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
You get that.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Lions, you get the Bears, you get the Packers, you
got the Vikings. One of those teams has gotta lose.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Those are those are four pretty decent teams overall, And
surprisingly the NFC East is a lot more competitive than
people think.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
You got Dallas Cowboys, who I thought did pretty good
on the brind shot.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
I'm gonna gona be better.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Uh, with with the the additions, maybe the Giants to
have Harball, They're probably gonna be better. Eagles, of course,
are already where they are. The Commanders, you get Jay
Daniels becket. That is potentially be a very sweaty division.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
The the idea is that you said two things, potentially
sweaty division. I don't know about the sweaty part, but
there's a lot of potential there. But the bill of
that ball would be the Eagles for sure.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Theoretically yes, of course they got a new OC and
Sean Mannion, so we don't really know.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Seems like every other OC for the Eagles is pretty good.
Every other yeah, right, and Fitchula was a uh.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
As far as the.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Weakest, uh, I think you're probably right in the NFC South,
although the AFC East, man, uh, you got two teams
in that division and then you've got two What are
we doing here with the New York chats to Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
The Dolphins are shot at being historically.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
Bad this year, So first hope they are NFC South
number eight, the weakest division on NFL dot com drinkings.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
And AFC East number seven.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
Three. During a recent appearance on the Pardon My Take podcast,
Tony Romo shared that the loan regret of his career
was not bringing a Super Bowl home to Dallas. Do
you think Romo was robbed in the infamous descotic game,
And how much longer with the Cowboys Championship round drought
Ray John.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
It's now up to thirty years A man who knows.
I mean, I think they've got the right coach right now.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
We'll see, we'll see, We'll see a long they can
hang out Clayon Adams, if they could finish build that
thing out. Jerry's desper for a Super Bowl before he
passes Romo. I mean, there were opportunities. He had what
three seasons where they won double digit games, you know,
there were opportunities. As far as the des caught it thing.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
I you know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
I was on the other side of that.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
I didn't think he did.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
But you know, I think if you're a Dallas fan,
you're always gonna say he did. And if you're if
you're not, you're always gonna say he didn't.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
On that particular play with Dad's Brian, like Ben said,
it all depends on what side of defense that you're on.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Looks like a catch. And I'm not even a Cowboys fan.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Well, once again, that was an error where defining what
a catch was trying to define it.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
It bends on what your definition of he is.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
So as it bettains to Tony Romo, he is viewed
as one of the better statistical efficient quarterbacks in league history,
but when he came to winning some of the big
games and propelling Dallas for it, that was something that
he couldn't really do.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
So statistically you'd be.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
In a conversation, but he'd never be in a conversation.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
With some of the more elite quarterbacks in the league.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, and I love Tony Romo as a player.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
I like him as a commentator as well, But what
I always will remember is that when he was mishandled
the snap, I'm.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Actually point will I'm gonna go, I'm gonna here's a
hot take for you. Tony Romo is the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Jake Plumber.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Actually no, no, just never could get over the hump.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Listen, look now, hold on, hold on a one damn minute.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
At least with Jake Plumber, my former teammate. We were
in the for AFC Championship game. Tell me what type
of game that Tony Romo was in that was similar.
I'll wait, uh yeah, tell me, uh huh.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
They won. They went two to four in the playoffs
with Romo.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
No, no, no, I think I'm not talking playoffs on
the ANFC Championship game one game away from the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
No, I'm just saying they only went to the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
But you know, thank you so so, Phil Free not
to make that comparison between Tony Romo and Jake Plumber.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Again, Broncos had a better team, better safety anyway, see
what I do.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
One of them was almost a Pro Bowl almost almost
four shots.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
On Good Morning Football, James Cook said that he believes
it's on the players to make it so that the
Bills finally get over the hump this season and win
a Super Bowl. Should the Bills be the favorites in
the AFC ahead of this season start, and what is
the biggest X factor in Buffalo for them to accomplish
their ultimate goal?

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Would winning the Super Bowl? No, I'm rary to popular belief.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
I know, David Tepper, it's not gonna like this this comment.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
But Panthers owner, Panthers owner or our boss, no or
a ball in that case, I have no idea what
Nick's about to say.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
And and great as you asked this question, we know
what James Cook can do. We know what Josh Allen
could do, but they had issues at the wide receiver position.
So Dj Moore has been added to that with a
slew of telligent tight ends in Buffalo. If they can
get all of those guys offensively going, this change is

(25:37):
a lot for other Buffalo Bills and Josh.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Allen doesn't have to play hero ball anymore. So I
think Dj Moore is going to be a major factor,
whether he's catching.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
A lot of balls or he's drawn a lot of attention.
But James Cookie is right, man, it's on the team.
You win as a team. That's why I'm gonna describe
to this whole idea. Everyone's talking about quarterback. Quarterback, quarterback,
quarterback can win without a damn team. Yeah, they're just
on the players they got to execute.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
The Buffalo Bills are now the what Broncos Northeast Now
that they've got you know, all the Saints coaches up there,
and they got Jim Leonard, they got Pete carmichaels Zoci,
you know, Joe Brocos players do Jaylen Virgil trent Sherfield
like Cushion Berry. You know, Bradley Chubb is on the
Buffalo Bills. I feel like there's more, but those are

(26:26):
the ones I get to go on the top of
my head there. Yeah, the Bills are primed. This has
kind of gotta be the run for them. They really
got to prove what they're the team of busts through
at this point. If they don't, I don't know what
you do.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Are you retooling that thing?

Speaker 4 (26:39):
You know?

Speaker 1 (26:40):
How are you retooling that thing?

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Because you're pretty much tied to Josh Allen, who's the
best quarterback you've had since Jim Kelly.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Retooling that means tweaking things with your roster, and they
they tried to do that, and that's the only thing
you can do as long as you have Josh Allen.
Just like Kansas City said, because they have Patrick Mahomes,
they got a chance.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Five Giants.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
Newhead coach John Harball told the media this week that
he isn't worried about Jackson Dart protecting himself and pointed
to his experience working with Lamar Jackson to demonstrate he
knows how to protect his quarterback.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
What do you make of Harball's comments, But well, you've
got to reign in Darts instant.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Like Dart and Scatti Ball both play with that reckless
abandon It was the same thing I said when they
came out.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
The guys are if they don't learn.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
To make some business decisions, you're gonna put themselves at
risk for injury. Dart was in the tent how many
times last year Scatti Ball was that was out after
a couple of games.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
You know those those guys have got to learn that.
I think Harball could droll that into him.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
I think that's what he's saying, is that he has
the confidence he can get through the players in ways
that baby Brian Dable couldn't or didn't. But yeah, they're
gonna have to or else that. You know, you're gonna
wind up if you keep doing the same thing over
and over again expecting different results, you're you're you know,
you're the fool.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Harbar is the perfect person for Jackson Dart because, yes,
his familiarity with lamar je accent and trying to force
a guy with Jackson Dart's ability to just be a
pure premier pocket passer.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
To me, that goes against everything in this fiber.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
So it is an excellent combination of playing it from
the pocket but also making plays on the move, but
also telling him based on the experience with Lamar and Jackson.
Hey win in doubt, My dude, I need you to
get on the ground because you've had a couple of concussions.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yes, or no.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
Giants have a winning record this year. Yes, Oh it's
that is a tough division.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Man.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
You got Philly, You've got the Cowboys, you got the car.
Do you believe in horrible?

Speaker 4 (28:36):
I do not.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
In year one, I think they're I think they are
five hundred football team. I'm gonna say yes, one game
below five hundred mills right like hel Hello, rare current.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
I am a green lipin on this fund. He probably
feels good to be on the right side of history.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
Studn Lyon's second year wide receiver Isaac Tesla, is turning
heads inside Detroit's facility, according to wide receiver coach Scotti Montgomery.
Montgomery said he's done a good job of going and
getting the football since he's been here and then now
at the top of his brakes are so much cleaner,
he's so much stronger. What I like to do is
I like to watch where we were, especially from an

(29:21):
athleticism standpoint, to where he is now.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
It's not even close.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
Do you think Tesla could be in store for a
breakout season, and how did the Lions stack up in
another loaded division, the NFC North.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I think he could be in for a breakout season.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
And the reason why because we've watched Jered golf get
so much better over the years. But here's the more
important thing. This is what the Bronco's trying to get here.
They have two capable running backs. One is really explosive
in Jamiir Gibbs and then they added Isaiah Pachenko. So
being able to run the ball at a high level
and being consistent, it opens up things on one on

(29:58):
one matchup and when you think about how the Lions
wanted to throw the ball down the field.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, it definitely serves Teslan as well.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Last season two hundred and thirty nine yards this evening
those number, those numbers have been so much better this season.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, he had was his sixteen catches, six touchdowns on
the season.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
He's first of all. Oompis silly by the way. As
a Tesla's fort razorback.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
He gets the beneficiary. He's like the Tim Patrick of
their offense. He gets the beneficiary of heaven. I'm on
Ross Brown and Jamison Williams out there as well, and
he's the third guy. Third guy I means you're going
to go up against their third corner and now he's
too good and can take advantage of that. They get
the right offenses and get him the ball. This year,
it could be, it could be in for a big year.
But he's gonna get the beneficiary. He's gonna get the.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Benefit of playing against third corners a lot. Lions have
a chance to win the NFC North again.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
I may get a shot, I don't. I mean a
lot of that's gonna fallo on what Jared Goff shows up.
Of course, we know Teddy two gloves is back. He's
the backup up there. And then if that Lions defense
can stay healthy, that's gonna be the other part of that.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
You know, part of that equation.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
And keeping in mind that band doesn't like the package
because he doesn't like Jordan loves Well.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
But I have to like the package now because my
boy is the defensive. Oh your boy, now, my boy,
my boy, my boy.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
One bonus topic for you, because who doesn't like another one?
When the six pack runs out? That's right, Blow Balligan
address the red card in the World Cup on CBS
News and Trump calling the president of FIFA.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Here's what he had to say.

Speaker 7 (31:31):
My initial reaction was, you know, I was happy to
be back in the team, But when I kind of
started to reflect, I knew it was going to cause
a lot.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Of controversy.

Speaker 7 (31:44):
And I could almost see within my teammates a bit
of nerves because it was something.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
That's so unique.

Speaker 7 (31:52):
But the closer we got to the game, I tried
to just focus as best as I could, but it
was difficult. You know, a lot of outside noise, and
that's how to avoid.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
Do you think Trump calling the president of FIFA and
flow Ballaghan getting the red card rescind it actually hurt
the US men's national team.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
I mean, it's one of those things where I think
Belgium certainly played with a chip on their shoulder because
of it. I don't know if it hurt the US
as much as it helped Belgium find find that extra
you know that ten percent We talked about bulletin board material.
What better bulletin board material than you know, the US
is trying to hose US kind of thing, and FIFA's
trying to you know, FIFA in the US are conspiring

(32:30):
to hose US. So I think I don't know if
it hurt the US, but I do believe it helped Belgium.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Well, I did help Belgium because Belgium felt as though, hey, listen,
it was a guy that got a red card and
now all of a sudden, the wheels have changed or
the wins have blown in the favor of Team USA.
But to me, like Belig can say, look for him,
it was the fact that going in he was excited
to be with his teams.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
But the issue was that the US did step.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Up right they he did them the favor called a
fever and he was able to play, but Team USA
didn't show up.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
That's the reason that they lost at the end of
the day.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah, then when they did show up and they were
so busy in their own celebration that they were fantasy.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
You can't do the act.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Click You've been there before, even though you haven't. Franco's
Country to Night.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
You are fake news.
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