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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's get ready to remd.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I totally ripped off Michael Buffer's deal.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Can you say that I can?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Well, I guess you just did.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I credited who it was. I could have kept going,
but I decided not to yell people's hears.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm glad that you didn't write.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Whatever he liked it.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's football, and it's the holy stay of the year.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We got football, do we can? We can we technically
call it football.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Maybe we'll call it foo apostrophe ball football foosball because
that fool ball.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
It's Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Okay, let's be totally honest.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Yes, the Hall of Fame game kind of lets us
know that football has officially returned.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
But as we know, that Hall of.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Fame game doesn't always I don't know, come off as
or his as well as we will like it. So
we're gonna see the referees still trying to get into
the groove back in regular season, and we're gonna see two.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Teams, uh trying to get back in that mode as well.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Your favorite quarterback crossing back will get the ball for
the Arizona Car news.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
You hear me booing, that means he's been announced as
a starter.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
And there you have Kenny Pickett, who would be the
start of quarterback for the Carolina Panthers, and night end
also when he exits stage left a fellow Georgia Tech
yellow jacket Hayes King, which.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I'm looking forward to seeing. You are on the same thing.
We both have Carolina in the over in this one, okay, Yeah,
And I do believe that King with his legs provides
more for Carolina than the rest of that horrible Carolina
than the rest of that horrible Arizona excuse me, Roster.
So I think we're on the same page on that.
(01:48):
I believe Kate Pickeop will not play very long. Carson
Beck will probably play a little longer, and they'll then
they'll give way to Keaton Slovas uh he of former
CU fame. Yes, so uh you know.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
No, Jeremiah Love for Arizona Cardors tonight, right.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, you're gonna I don't even think you're gonna get
Algira O'Connor.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
You're probably gonna have Trey.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Benson and Pam Knight and those guys.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I will say, the starting right tackle, I don't know
if he's gonna play it a night, but starting right
tackle for the Arizona Cardinals, our old friend Elijah Wilkinson.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Really, yes, there, I like it.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I like it. I like it. But here here's the
interesting about this this particular game. It is it kicks
off the NFL twenty twenty sixth season.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I know the coach is love it for evaluation process.
Some players, those who are you know, bubble players, they
love it. But veteran players who don't even play any
game thele you like it right, well.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Right, I mean, hell, you like it because you know
you got to start a week earlier. If you get
the Hall of Fame game, you got extra camp. Now,
I mean, to be fair, I mean, we saw some
video from Arizona's camp and it did clown car Wait.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Wait wait then it's not even preface it that way
to be fair, So our counteract you with to be fair.
That was just a collage of some of the bad
plays in Arizona camp. Thus fought.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
If that collage went on forever and it's all from
one practice, well.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I mean, look, if we were to look at all
the thirty two teams around the NFL, we would be
able to find a bevy of plays. Hell, look at
the Denver Broncos defense within itself over the past two days,
you would be able to find positive plays for the defense,
negative plays for the offense some.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
But you would not find that many wide open receivers
just dropping the ball, the quarterbacks just fumbling blocking.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
See that I would I would agree on.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
But I think that that is lack of focus and concentration.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I think it's a lack of effort because they know
they're going to be bad.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I need.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I think the people at that roster know they're going
to be bad this year, and I don't think I
think they are all just kind of mailing it in.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Look, man, I am mister optimistic, right put the put
the optimistic Oh on my chest?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You put the opt in optimist prime.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yes, but more an optimistic not optimist prime.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
But listen, it is camp.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Is this not where you want to have some of
your biggest failures in camp?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well, I put the mega in mega hitter tron, So yes,
you do.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yes, absolutely, I'm just saying I I you know, Arizona's
gonna be epically bad this year, Miami's gonna be epically
bad this year.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
New York Jets are probably going to be epically bad.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
This year.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Uh, there's there's three or four teams this year.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
They're just gonna be really bad.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Well, you know what, here's here's a fun thing about
it though. The video that you show me that had
those consecutive drops and you know quarterbacks and centric Shane's
putting the ball on the ground, we get a chance to.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
See we just say it again, they had.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Booked on those things. Maybe maybe the coach lead to
that clip to try to go to these guys.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
I mean coaches have done like really interesting things, and
you know, I would you know, Michael Floor, man, how
young does this do?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Actually look? He looks like he has three Him and
made Hackett.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Were responsible this game offensive tobacco with Aaron Rodgers. They
were the brain child.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Wait wait then wait wait, I cannot let you do
that because to be fair, to be fair, Greg nepta
away tragically and he was going to be the guy that.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Developed a quarterback right And I have nothing but respect
for Greg now, but I will say that Michael Floor
is not Maclafloor.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
And I think people.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Brother yeahs brother too.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
You know Frank Stallon is Sevester Stallone's brother. All right,
he lighted up to see Frank stallone movies.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
No, no, not. But in this case, Clight Howard is
Rod Howard's brother. All right, I can keep going all day.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
So you're saying all the good jeans were way sit
on the older or the younger brother.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
The only the only time I think that, like the
superstar potential got the across genre with the brothers is
probably Robert and Richard Patrick. And you guys may not
know who that is, but Robert Patrick is an actor.
He played the The T one thousand and Terminator two. Ye,
he's sent lots of stuff that he's in Peacemakers Villain.
His brother is Richard Patrick, the lead singer of the
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band Filter. Really.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, I did not know that.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
So that's like two brothers, you know, two brothers that
were equally taught across wildly different genres, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, it's interesting because sometimes in that situation, when we
talk about brothers, one may be a little driven than
the other.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, yes, same DNA though.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, but he's definitely a rookie.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah, the idea of being driven is is definitely a
little different. But I am I am predicting that things
are gonna look a little different for the Arizona car
News Tonight, I'll be the first preseason game.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
You're gonna work out a couple of the kinks.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
But you know what, I think they're going to uh
put the night let's showing together.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
They say that may not.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
They may not score tonight. It might be like twenty
four to nothing Carolina.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Well, three points actually count, So that means that the
Arizona Colons the offense would have to move the ball
down the field.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Right, I'm suggesting that Arizona may not move the ball
at all.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Wow, man, I.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Have no faith in their their head coach, offensive coordinator,
or quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Listen, I know that we know your buddies.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
You know, Mike, I know you are, but I don't
know h I talk to people that are on the
Jets staff and they're like.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You got a head coaching job?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Really? Wait?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Wait, First of all, no one in that Jis organization
should be saying that, because remember they hired Adam Gase.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So list no, no, no, no, I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Not saying people that hired that, say people that were
on staff with Mike. Oh, you gotta held coaching job
Okay back when he got to when he got the
Arizona job.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, what I'm saying it has been.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
It is a preseason, but you are already in your
regular season hater mo Man.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I've been I've been doing the reps. Man, I'll be
getting reps in camp. Yeah, you know, I'm out here.
I know if you can't, you can't just walk in
and be a hater. You gotta you gotta put the reps.
You gotta you gotta go. You know, you got to
work your way up from like special teams to like
full you know, full starter hitter.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
What's the actual percentage on the hater meter this year?
Because last year you ad one ten? Where are you
now like hating on the Broncos? Like, no, I'm not
talking about hating on the Broncos. I'm just saying this.
You just hated on everything, right, you just hated on everything. Okay,
I'm not hating on everything this.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Year, but I am an artist, liar salesman.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Definitely going to be crapping on the Arizona Cardinals all year.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Oh Man, Cardinals just got a three and out looking
like look because on third and one, Carolina decided to
go with the gun and drop back like idiots?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
What Zach did I hear you say Carolina?
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I mean, uh, Cardinals looked like eighty five Bears.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
I mean, I tried, one hundred percent of their defensive
possessions have ended in a.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Three and out right now.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
I can't think it for another NFL team that's ever.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Accomplished over here anything else with the fancy analytics. That's
a pretty elite. That's pretty leege. I mean an other
defense that's come close to that.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I mean, that's that's just because playing defense, it's just yeah,
it's absolutely utterly ridiculous. And look, I love the whole
Fame game. A love because it sort of signals the
start of everything and it's fun and all that. You know,
you get twenty minutes and you're like, this is a
bad football, but you know it does signal to start
of everything.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
It does, man, And I know the football doesn't look
the same because you don't have a lot of the
starting units out there, but it gives a lot of
those players who are on the bubble, a lot of
players who after you know, this training camp, they may
not play football again. But it gives her their parents,
their friends, their coaches, teachers who know them an opportunity
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to say you know what. That was my guy, I
remember teaching him in the second grade. He's done in
the NFL uniform. So for whatever that's worth, man, I'm
glad that these guys get that opportunity.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
For all the hating that I'm doing on the organization,
I'm not hating on any specific players outside Carson becketfe
you know. With that with that organization, five six six
nights zeros in text and we got a big, big
show tonight. Parker Gabriel is going to join us here
Ian a little while. I think Luca Evans is going
to join us as well for his farewell as he
heads it out to It will just be.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
His farewell right here.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, joining us, it will be his farewell. And then
Chris Thomasin's going to join us at at eight thirty
five hours, I've having christ so we'll get a chance
to ask those guys, I think three of the better
minds and media people out there at trading Camp a
little bit about you know, what they're seeing out there
on the text line, several people, several different people for
multiple different numbers, three oh three to four, one seven.
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What else we got here?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, that's the same question.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Well, how about the is there a legitimate QB two competition?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
And I know Sean said that there isn't.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Did you see to look on my face, My eyes
are telling me that your mind was telling you.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Is your mind telling you?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Artist, liar salesman. I'm just I'm just saying there is
definitely and and and to be honest, Ailinger is winning.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Okay, I want to I want to bring you in
into a conversation that at every practice you're standing around
different people and the conversation may be different, but as
of late, the conversation was similar because the people who
were coming up, uh, John Comen was coming up, Roley Moss,
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Juddie Barron. But also this quarterback battle. Now some I
will not mention your names, will say that, you know what,
there's no such thing as a quarterback battle because the
job is steadies.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
And I said, old Country move fair.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Eight million dollars to keep versus what three and a
half million to cut. That's a savings a four and
a half million on a team that is very clearly
consolidating money to roll forward on the cap.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
How much does that move the needle?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Though?
Speaker 5 (12:12):
In this win now season, like ultimately doesn't it come
down to which guy gives us the best chance to
win and how can we and not how can we
save three million dollars?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
We saw which guy can't carry the freight last year
when you when you absolutely got to have a guy
that's why you have a backup when you absolutely got
to have a win, that guy's got.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
To wish all that he can't.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
It goes far beyond what Ben is saying, because it
wasn't just that game.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Remember a couple of years.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Ago when Russ was benched, so then got his opportunity.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
One on one, right, it probably should have gone over
to but one and one.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yes, so you get a chance to see who and
what he is.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Hey, listen, man, I want every person to every player
to succeed, but we know that doesn't happen. So you
have to be realistic about what it is that you
are seeing in Jaredstdam. Yes, the pro of the situation
is he is a veteran guy. He's been in NFL
games and he's he's played in NFL games more than
Sam Ellinger player. Right, that's the true fact. But as
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how well did you perform when you were in those games?
So my friend of mine. This is what I've said
to individuals at practice. Well, we've already seen I guess,
the best of Javistidham.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Why not give Sam an opportunity.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
And that's why I think the reps in practice, the
reps in the preseason game are going to be really
key for Sam to really show that there's some carryover
from what he's showing at practice right now to the
actual games.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
And that's the thing. I think the preseason game is
going to be huge frailing here because if he comes
out and he shows that he's capable of managing the
game and getting the offense up and down the field, yeah,
I think they punt on Stidham and just move on Ellen.
There's more athletic, he's you know, there's more upside there
because he's a younger guy. You know what Stidham is
and more importantly, you know what Stidham isn't at this point,
and that I think is the thing. At the end
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of the day, you're paying top tier backup money to
Jared stidd to come in and deliver that that stinker
that he did against New England. I mean, come on, Islan,
there's a far cry from Taysom Hill is an athlete,
like you're not gonna line them up at tight end
or gunner on special teams. But he can run like
anyone who watched him at Texas, who remember all those
QB powers they ran over and over again with him.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Do you think or I guess how much skill set?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
How much do you think that moves the needle for
Sean Payton considering his history with Taysom Hill, where you
can't be running those quarterback keepers stuff with a Stidham.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
No, I think I'm not sure. I think it's all
of that. I think it's all of the things. I
think it's the fact that you're saving four and a half
a million dollars by moving on. It's the fact that
you've got a younger guy with more upside, that the
skill set is a better copy of what bo actually
is and you don't have to change the offense that much.
And I think it's also the fact that you've seen
still You absolutely you paid Stillham eight million dollars a
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year to be the guy when Bow goes down, and
you absolutely got to have a win. We're paying you
extra money, borderline start money to come in and get
that win.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
And you you saw what he couldn't deliver well. And
the other part of that too is Logan Killgore. He
now steps into that quarterback coach role. As we know
Logan Killboys played quarterback in college himself. Maybe not at
this level, but how good is he as a coach
and developer. And you still have Davis web there as well.
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And if you're saying that when we look at the
backup quarterbacks that Sam Ellinger isn't ready, then I say,
but that would be an indictment on the coaching staff,
those guys who are responsible to develop, to develop him
and bring him along, because you have to see development
every single player and the way that it works and
(15:43):
the art of player evaluation.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
If for some.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Reason, that low paying guy, that guy you pay us
money to is paying equal to that veteran quarterback or
even or a veterman player or better, guess where you go.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
You side with the younger player. That's what you do.
So what we're seeing from.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
In practice, let me eat on this and it's and
I like to call it the switch out right. And
you need to do this at times because for the
most part, Steady's been running with the second unit right
since he's been here, So when you're running with the
second unit, everything's gonna look that much better because.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
You know those guys, they know you. Obviously, he understands
and knows the system well.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
The switch up is now And what we've seen a practice,
you let Sam run with the twos and you see
Steady with the threes and see if he can elevate
that level.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
And I think that's I mean, you need to do that.
And they've been doing some of that. I don't think
Stitt has really got too many third team reps, but
he's been splitting the second team reps with you know,
with a linger at times. And you know, I think
it's fairly obvious. I think you have decisions to make there.
The Broncos is gonna have to pay Bo Nicks. They're
going right on quarterbacks. It's fifty five million plus. I've
been saying Bo's gonna getixty US per year. You know,
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that's the going rate on quarterbacks. That's the going rate.
That's the cost of business.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Wait wait, wait, the goring rate will proven quarterbacks who
have done it consistently.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Going right on the quarterbacks period, Trevoral Harnsen and the
guy has been consistently proven anything, and you have fifty
five million dollars a year, like that's that's the going
rate on quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
That's what that's the cost of doing business.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
And and that's like people, I'm trying to tell you,
this team is going to look radically different now it.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Does the cost of doing business. Why isn't that the
glades of family. They don't want to pay Baker.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Maysiel because they don't because Todd Bowle is gonna be
done after this year and they don't want to have
the job tied to Baker Mayfield. If the next coach
coming in doesn't want.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
That from Baker, I'm the ball out and I'm and
I'm gonna make them.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Eat their worse and that's and that's what he will do.
And that's what I mean, to be honest with you.
Motivated Baker Mayfield probably a good thing for it, and
he's in the right division for it, right So you know,
I think it's one of those situations where they're looking
at it, they're sent, are we got to pay you
to ve Let's let's figure this thing out and we'll
just let Baker go and we've got the franchise Tagg
in our back pocket.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
If we need it.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
But Bow, I mean, look, that's the gospel business man.
I love Bow, But you're saying sixty million. If I'm
not mistaken, I'm not looking at the numbers. That's Patrick Mahomes,
Josh Allen Range sixty four million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Dak Press got sixty million dollars a year. Allan signed
a deal that put him at fifty five as long
with Burrow, Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence, those guys are all
at fifty five million at least put a minute, at least.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Joe Burrow, He's been to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, But I'm just saying, like, if you look at this,
they're the wow, you know, the quarterbacks. Most of these
guys signed deals and then they got topped by the
next deal that came along, you know. So you know,
Stafford's at fifty five million, Goston fifty three, Parties at
fifty three, Herbert's at fifty two point five, and Herbert
hasn't been anywhere near a playoff fifty two.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Point five, right, So if I'm the Broncos, I'm putting
at maybe fifty.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Two fifty two point five per years what Herbert's current
deal is it had one hundred and ninety three point
seven total guaranteed, with one hundred and thirty three point
seven fully guaranteed, and he won't hit free agency till
twenty three.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
What about fifty three foot bowl?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Not sixty?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Not right now?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I'm not taking that.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, I donna take fifty three.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
He's taking brock Perty money. Are you taking Jared Goff money?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Whoa?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Whoa?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
You can use party.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Party's an anomaly because because he was mister irrelevant and
he played his way into you did that money.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
But Party and Jared Goff, that's that's the cost of
new business.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Are you taking that money? If your bonnet, I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Not taking it? Well, well, well says we're having this conversation.
I'm gonna play.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
That would be Denver Broncos brass on this one, because
once again, Boa was drafted in the first round, brought Party,
mister irrelevant, right, he's playing himself into this row.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
He took this team to a super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
He could have done it twice, but the year they
played Philly, he was he was injured that Christ McCaffrey
had to go in as a quarterback. But he went
from mister old body. It's a miss to somebody. So
that's what we're comparing.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Now, it's not I mean, that's in the NFL, is
not this The next man up gets in, you know,
the market added near the top. And I'm just telling you,
like he signed, and then you've got guys like Lawrence
and Love signed after Jordan Loves making fifty five million
dollars a year. He's the third highest paid quarterback in
the league. Because that's the cost of doing business. And
I promise you Bo's going to get at least that
you think Jordan Love is better than Bonix because I don't, well, it.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
All depends there.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
We would have to just kind of break really break
down their games because there's a lot of similarities to them.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
But all I can say is miss Parker, Miss Parker.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah, well, I'm sorry, Miss Jackson and everybody else.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
He's about to get paid for Bruckles Country Night beging
for this. But all bright Nick Ferguson's act siggers here
with you five six, six nine zero. The text line
Hall of Fame game going on, and uh, there's on
a card's put a little drive together. Yeah, they were
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backed up against their own goal line at receiver. Put
a little move on the Carolina corner and uh it
got a big chunk play out of it.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
That's another great thing.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
If you play call in the preseason, there's so many
things that you may have drawn up on a napkin.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Now you can just throw toss out there. What's the
worst that can happened? It actually works.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Well, the worst that could happen is that you could
not work in the worst possible way, and also someone
get hurt.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
But yeah, well, I mean it is football. It's not Badmanton,
so people can't get hurt.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
The idea is that you want to give your players
on the field, when I inside the ball the best
opportunity to evaluate them. And I know usually in the
preseason the offense and the defense typically looks very vanilla.
If you will, hey man, give me cherry, give me
some whipped cream, give me some sprinkles or something.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
What do you what are you doing over there?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Well, well, I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
You know what you're doing over there.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
I'm talking about as far as the game and the
play calling is concerned. Give the players a little more
some extensive weight their skill set, help with the evaluation.
That's all I'm saying. Well, yeah, and put it out
there and start start.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
You know, you also want to put some things on
tape so that your opponents are looking at that, they're
preparing for it.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
A couple of weeks that you get you can build
off that.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
If you're smart, you'll slip one or two or three
of those plays in there just to kind of get
your opponents guessing, especially for week one. That kind of stuff.
Both Jamer Gibbs and Jonathan Taylor signing deals today. A
big time running back deals gives three years, sixty seven
a half million dollars. I don't have the.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Jonathan Taylor numbers in front of me, but it's it's
something goes to that. Oh as Taylor was forty four
million over two forty four two.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Okay, what I will say is, do you guys know
who the running back with the most guaranteed money contract
of the ghost guaranteed money the NFL right now?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Is do you?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I don't say it, I do. Do you know who
it is the most guaranteed money?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yes, the running back with the most guaranteed money in
his contract?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I don't know. I'm thinking it may be h Derrick
Henry here my love here am I love? Because he
was guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Because he was drafted number three overall that slotted contract.
He has the most guaranteed money in his contract.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Because those first round rookie contracts are secretly guarant Well, well.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Are you talking about for rookie or anybody?
Speaker 5 (23:22):
For anybody, because his whole contract is guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
And teams are so.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Uncomfortable giving running backs a lot of guaranteed money. Like
even these big Bijon and Jamier Gibbs extensions for players
who are currently on their rookie deals are only three years.
You know, we're typically used to see for five years,
like we've seen with these receivers. Teams are less comfortable
putting out multiple years of you know, high guarantees. So
(23:50):
Jeremiah Love, even though he's far from being the highest
paid running back overall, because his contracts fully guaranteed, as
he has the most fully guaranteed money.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
So because he rooie, So a rookie has the most
guarantee money for a running back.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Hey man, good for it. Good for him.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
For me, I think that this whole idea of the
valuing of the running back position and it has to
stop in my opinion. And I know, looking at Johndan Taylor,
Vijon Gibbs, that everyone's going, oh, well, guess what, that
whole idea of the value on running backs.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
That's now over it. That's the thing in the past.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
I'm like, no, it's not, because those are some of
your top tier running backs, and the philosophy still remain
the same that hey, listen, we gonna get a running back.
Those guys fall up off the turnative truck. I mean, yes,
you can't go get one of those guys. But here's
the issue. You can't go get the guy. That's the difference.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
That's where I say the rubber meetter robe.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
When it comes to, you know, paying running backs to
a lot of money, you only have so many guys
who can actually be that guy like Saquon Barkley, that guy,
Derrick Henry, that guy I.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Mean James Cook, elf Davin Cooked when he when he
was in the league.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
They were those guys because they had a very unique
skill set that not every back in the backfield has.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, and I I mean teams went crazy kind of
paying wide receivers over a couple of years and then
kind of pivoting back to paying the running back. The
all around running backs. I will say the one dimensional
guys aren't really getting paid, but the all around running
backs are getting paid. Again, See that's an operative word.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
So you have to be an all around guy picking
up the blitz, kiss the ball out of the bat field.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I can flex you out and.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Run between the tackles.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
There are not too many guys that could do that.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Right then we're seeing I mean, you know Taylor, Jacques Gibbs,
you know Derek Hen't. We're seeing these guys, Saqua, those
guys are getting paid.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
We saw from a Broncos standpoint in consecutive years, what
Jonathan Taylor can do for a running back position.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yes, we did, right, And if it hadn't been for
him dropping the ball before he went over that goal line,
it could have been a lot worse.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It could it could have been so.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
So the lesson here is when you're evaluating running backs,
I mean, there's something unique that you're looking for from
a from a running back standpoint, and once again, not
every running back is created equal where they have that.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Unique skill set that you you just don't like.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
When I when I watched jon run automatically, I think
Barry Sanders. That's the first thought that comes to my
mind because of his jump cuts and how he the
jump cup balance and the spin move leaving the defender
lying in his weight right.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah, Barry had that start stop. I think got a
little more than he's got some of that. I think
everybodys seen that overhead cam looking it was pretty dope.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Once again seeing that overhead cam and slow most like
they slow it down on a spin move and then
so as he turns his shoulder, he just kind of
let it go into live action.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
That was Barry Sanders esque.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah. By the way, the total running Back guarantees to
break it down for you're and my love has fifty
three point two fully guaranteed. What fifty three point zero
two million dollars fully guaranteed in his rookie contract. Damn
Jamir gives his number two, Tavera gives number two at
fifty one point five, he jon his third and fifty
(27:30):
one point oh seven, and then Jonathan Taylor's at thirty
nine and Saquan's at thirty six. That's a lot of
hot wings. That's a lot a lot of expertates of Chrispy.
I'm just saying, but it's it's it's funny it's amusing
to me. I guess that you know, you have a rookie.
He was drafted third overall and played it down as
the most guaranteed Hey.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Listen, like you said, the market dictates that based on
what he did at Notre Dame that put him in
position where the car knows a team that was desperate
for to get their running game on the track, and
then everything kind of hit at the right time, calling
the perfect store.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, and it's uh, they certainly got an interesting running
back room there, guys that aren't even playing the night
Love of course, Tyler Algier, James Connor, Trey Benson is
the fourth running back there. He was gonna be the
you know, the number one or two last year. And
then you guys in this game they're running with like
Bam Knight and Corey Kiner and Evan Hall will be
(28:26):
the guys that do most of the most of the
running in this game. It'll be, uh, it'll be interesting
to see if any of those guys can make the
U can make the team.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, that's uh.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
This is skywishl is this This was the one after.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Oh my god, I used to because I'd used to
list to Beck, but then it got weird, like I
don't know whatever year it was, oh eight.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
And I think I remember them on some Madden soundtracks
when I was growing up.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
What's a dude, his name's Beck.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
We it's the team in paula situation.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah yeah, so but except his name is Beck. That's
his last name. So there you go. Mix just shaking
his head.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
You remember Beck? Of course I remember break swe turntables
on a microphone. I do. I was just letting you
and Zach Segers just, you know, I kind of have
your moment.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
I just I was like, all right, he's playing the hits,
he's taking deep, he's letting us engage in our culture.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Get right.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
That's yes. I'm just looking down from a thirty view.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
We're not breaking.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
We're not breaking the washcloths back out like we're not
We're not.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Getting we're not getting that discussion.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
It's not happening.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Oh my goodness. Five six six nine zeros text and
we gotta five oh five. Random question for you, Ben,
I'm headed to Mobile, Alabama in a few weeks. Any
places you recommend to go out and eat? I've never been,
so any recommendation helps? Uh, Mobile Alabama's where the Senior Bowl.
He is every year.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I already know what Ben's going to recommend.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
What am I going to recommend?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
The burger with the.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
That's right, go to load of beer Garden and get the.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Uh it is a wait wait, that's right across from
the hotel.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Right, Yeah, it's a block off. It's about a block
and a half off. Yeah, loada beer Garden is uh.
It is a cherry barbecue sauce marinated burger with candy
brown sugar, bacon, a sharp cheddar cheese, all between two
glazed doughnuts. And I think there is no quite essential
(30:25):
reminder of what is America then that burger.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Man.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I was rocking with you. So you went with the
bacon and the doughnuts. Well, I was like, oh man,
that sounds so Pauladine comes.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
With a side of angioplasty.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Claire. I hate the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I did.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I hate the entire thing, to be fair.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
It was back. It was about before I worked here, actually,
and I was in there and I was in there
with a guy I used to be an NFL coach,
and I was I was eating, and then Ryan came in.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
He was with Steve at Water and Tim Spencer used
beped here and some of the people and they yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
And and uh, they're like all right, you've talked about
this and then it came out and I'm like, I'm
gonna eat ever bite.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
And I did you know, I really quickly. There's something
I used to eat as a kid that I no
longer eat, and that was a liver.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yes, I would make a liver sandwich almost like it
was a bot but just removed the bacon and put
put liver there. I mean it was great, tomatoes, lettuce, cheese,
moner ate jack, some hot salitate onions and it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yes, deliver, I'm not I'm not good. Zachar you oliver liver,
he said, I'm not a liver guy.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
On the ll T. Yeah, you know what, listen man,
it said that liver, beef, liver is really good for you,
Vitamin D, vitam of K two, all of those things. Man,
don't not until you try it. I'm just saying that
he's looking at me like, well, I'm gona knock it.
I'm definitely, I mean, I'm disabled to definitely knocking it.
(32:05):
What I will say if you're gonna do if you
do mobile, depends on what you want.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Uh, win Soles has got the best, like oysters, seafood,
it's it's just kind of a date.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Dolphins is more of.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
A fine dining.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
That's the place where all the scouts everyone goes afterwards.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yeah, Winsle's oyster house. Delphine's is more of a fine
dining kind of thing, if that's what you're looking for.
Dolphin Dulphine d a u p ah and that's the
French dolphin. Yeah, they sounds like dolphin, but do you
try to get aisicated with it?
Speaker 4 (32:33):
No?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Hey, what did you see jumping in the water?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I saw some dolphins if you're willing to drive a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Felix is a fish camp is good if you like seafood,
But you're gonna have to drive a little bit for
that one. But if you're right around downtown, Uh, load
of beer gardens is interesting, Dolphin's is good. Those those
are kind of in Winsos. Those those are the main downtown's.
So there you go. There's your there's your there's your
mobile Alabama dining recommendations. That's we do on the show.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Well, enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Your Dolphine have you been to Well, yeah, I have
to be totally honest, I have. I've been down there
during the scouting COMBA. That was the first time I
met Nick Saban and Mike Tomlin, and people say that
we look like we're.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
From the same family somehow.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
They're saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they sure did. They said, yeah,
people look at That's exactly what they said.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
That's the same thing that Nick says about me and Zach.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
You have heard me anything to imagine too? Yeah, no,
all right, we gotta eat a break.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Ralpha roll in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Game tied up at seven.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
We got Parker Gaber. We come back here, Rockers, chastry night.