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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh talking about mister Jeter and his roster.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Oh my god, unreal, unreal roster.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
It hurts my heart.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yes, Mika Kelly, I had it bad for you at
Friday at lights just samow five six six nine zero
The text line. Brian texted and said, do you know
Today's National root Beer Float Day? I had no idea.
I didn't like root beer floats. I was always a
coke float guy.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
No, man, if there's gonna be a floats of all floats,
it's got to be a root beer flow with mad
A Gascar, another being ice cream.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Okay, I'm with you on the Matmada Gascar and I'll
be ice cream.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
But I am. I was always a coke float guy.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I just like it is.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Some one makes it, that makes it root beer. It's
called a.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Root beer float if it's kind of if it's got
the taste, doesn't even taste right. It tastes right to me.
That's like a spot like liver. How can we even
trust your opinion?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
You like living?
Speaker 5 (00:49):
That's like a sprite and mellow yellow. They look the same,
but they don't take my sella yellow do not look
the same. Mellow yellows like mountain dew doesn't look the same.
It doesn't taste the same either.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
My god, let's go out of the kaway coms for
hotline and bring on some of the far superior intellect
that can settle this once and for all. H Parker.
Apparently it is National root Beer Float Day, something I
didn't know. I always preferred coke floats to root beer floats.
Nick Ferguson has trying to shame me and tell me that,
you know that my breastanks and I can't even read good.
What say you, sir?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'm a traditionalist in this sense, nothing against the coke float,
but I am a root beer float man myself. You know,
Rupper sometimes gets a bad rap, which I just do
not understand.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I'm with you on that because a root beer is
like an underrated soda. But at the same time, I
don't know. I just like when I was doing the
ice cream thing, I always like to coke float a
little bit better on Parker.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I mean, the name is in the title, it's a
root beer float ice cream. I've never heard someone say,
excuse me, bartend it, can I have a coke float?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You have to keep it with me?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I don't know. I mean I guess it's sort of like,
you know, been kind of like big corporate guy, you know,
wants he'd probably likes the eminem cookie sandwich more than
just like a regular you know, chocolate chip cookie sandwich.
So you know, if you want to go for sort
of like the big name or whatever, that's fine, you
can do that.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Oh my god, he killed me right now, killing me
right now, Parker Game joining us on the show.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Parkers feels like the receiver are starting to separate himself
a little bit in this competition for wide receiver three
for the Denver Broncos after Wattle and Sutton and look
opponents on this when I've rated this PB thirteen, they
need to be strongly cautioned as Pat Bryant is putting
on a show.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, he's been really good in camp so far. I mean,
there's just no way around it, like and you know,
to be fair, like, I think Marvin Mims has been
pretty darn good too. And Mims is kind of like
like Pat Bryan. When Sean Payton was talking a couple
of days ago, he said, it'll be really easy to
define his role and that's just like he's just a
Sean Payton receiver like this from the moment they drafted
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him in the third round, when when you know, I
think a lot of people thought he'd go quite a
bit later in the draft, and that you know, Mims
has sort of been pigeonholed into this more limited role.
And I just wonder, and you know, maybe it's just
camp and all that, but like, if there's a guy
who could really benefit from Davis Webb taking over play calling,
it seems to me like Mims could be one of them,
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just the way similar to the way we talk about
Evan Ingram, Like maybe they'll have slightly different ways to
use and they can put them in different positions, maybe
they finally trust him to run more than a couple
of routes or whatever. But even saying all that about Mims,
it's pretty obvious that, like Pat Bryan's playing great. He's
tough over the middle of the field, he catches the
ball in traffic, he catches the ball down the field,
he's got run after catch. So and then oh, by
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the way, you know, he's by far their best perimeter
blocking player two, so you know PP perimeter blocking. So
that's yeah, I mean, he's he's he's played his way
into you know, what looks like a pretty.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
So usually in this time of you know, a preseason,
injuries start to mount up. And luckily the Broncos haven't
had a guy any guy's cart it off, but a
lot of you know, self tissue injuries. But uh, the
Bronco is working out a couple of players today. I
mean to hear that and to see that, does that
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give you any indication that there are certain positions that
maybe linebackers that they're not really happy about.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Well yeah, I mean I think you're always working guys
out this time of year, so that's part of it.
But certainly, like when you look at that list, I
mean it's it's at drushers basically, and and you know
not I think I think it looks obviously like Nick
Bonito did did the walk through stuff today. It doesn't
look like he's a long way off, but they'll probably
be a little bit careful with his workload for a
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little while here. And the San McCullough is is hurt too.
We haven't seen him out there the last few days,
and so you're probably just sorting through to see if
they're another guy that you want to get a look at,
and maybe they're looking at the number of reps there
they've got going in practice and they think they need
another body there or something like that. So it's pretty
it's pretty normal for this time of year. But certainly,
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like when you see a team work out a bunch
of guys that ostensibly play the same position, it's just
it's pretty obvious that they're at least considering, you know,
swapping a piece at the bottom of the roster or whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, usually that it feels like an indicator. And that's
one of those things that I was looking today at
the linebackers. You know that that kind of raised at a liebrow. There,
my guy Andre Carter from Army getting a little bit
of a work out. That's that's why it's fun for
me talking to Parker Gabriel from the Denver Post Hall
of Fame game going on right now, Arizona taking on
the Carolina Panthers, and already this might go down as
(05:47):
the most exciting Hall of Fame game of all time.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Oh yeah, I mean, you know, barn Burner, like, if
there's football on TV, this is a great thing about
the Hall of Fame game, even if it's not, you know,
fourteen all in the second quarter, Like there's football on TV.
What more can you want than that? So you know,
Carton Beck lighting it up, and let's see who else, Oh,
(06:10):
Haines I mean Carton Beck against Haines King. If that
doesn't sound like a twenty twenty five college football playoff.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Game, what does the heavy hitters? I mean the rumble
in the jungle, I don't know any much the foliage.
The foliage situation isn't Cincinnati in Ohio.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
But anyway, the rumble in the Monongahela Valley, it rolls
right off the tongue, rolls right off the tongue. You know.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
When when Tom Peyton was at the podium today, he
was asked the beavy of questions, and one of the
questions that I really paid attention to was being as
well or ask about how.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
People refer to him.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
David's web has referred to him as the Hall of
Fame coach. Other people around the league has have referred
to him as a Hall of Fame coach and his
genius or whatever. When when you look at the body
of work that Peyton has completed up to this point,
we all know that he's a Hall of Fame coach.
But what do you think about, you know, the culture
that he's established here. And the reason why I asked
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that because culture is so big and so important, especially
to the winning ways here at the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
So what do you think.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
About the culture he's established here thus far?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well, I mean it's pretty impressive, right, like just the
what just going from eight wins to ten to fourteen
and you know, two short years in the playoffs and
when you watch him, like, there's no guarantee they could
have a big run of injuries or something like that.
They've got a really tough schedule. You know, there's no
such thing as a sure thing in the NFL. But
they when you watch them in camp, Like I've talked
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to people that have seen them and seen other teams
this this camp already and they're like, yeah, I mean
they look really good. The defense is fast, their experience
on both sides of the ball. They've got a quarterback
going into a third season. They added Jaylen Waddell, Like,
there's no reason not to have really high expectations for
him again this season, and frankly, it's gonna look different
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after this year. But they've done a good job so far.
There's a long way to go, obviously, but they've done
a good job of setting themselves up for future success,
even you know, in the in the face of having
to decide if you're gonna pay the quarterback or not.
So like, you know, they've they've put together a really
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good team, a really good roster. And that's obviously a
credit to Sean Peyton. It's the credit to George Peyton,
it's a credit to the whole operation. But obviously, you
know Sean, like it's it's it's his team in so
many ways, and so that's yeah, I mean we'll see,
Like I think, obviously on the Hall of Fame front,
like the credentials are strong right now, but they become
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beyond doubt on the field, you know, if he becomes
the first guy to win a Super Bowl two different teams.
So I think he even though he sort of deflected
and didn't really want to talk about himself in that
regard today, like it's impossible for that to not like
enter your mind from time to time about what your
legacy is going to be, about your bona fides for that,
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and about the chance at some point here. So I'm
sure it's not why he wants to win a super Bowl.
But one of the results that they do win a
Super Bowl will be that he's just a surefire, no
doubt Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, I mean, and we all know that Shawn's definitely
cognizantive legacy. But does he need that? Does he need
to do them to do the undoneable as it were,
and win a Super Bowl with tw different teams to
make the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, Ben, I mean, that's a great question. I don't know.
I mean, and and part of the reason I don't
know is because the coaching process to get into the
Hall of Fame has just been a mess. I mean,
like if they if he coached five more years and
they're winning double digit games every year, like she is
going to be very high on the list of all
time wins. Like if he gets the two hundred wins
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in his career, there's just not very many guys that
have done that. So like, I think probably, I think
he's probably already a Hall of Famer. I think if
he coaches for any number of years and wins in
most of them in Denver, he's only gonna pad that
resume more. And if he went to Super Bowl, then
there's no doubt that he will get in. But like
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either way, now with the you know, this sort of
screwy way that the coaching element works for induction into
the Hall of Fame, it's two or three years in
a row where the person who's put forward by the
Coaches Committee hasn't actually been inducted into the Hall. So
like now you've got this backlog where the committee thought
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Mike Holmgren is worthy, and then he goes in front
of the full voting panel and he doesn't get eighty percent,
so he's not in. So Holmegren's obviously you know, worthy,
but he's still got to get in Belich technologible this year,
he'll he'll be the candidate this year. There's almost no
doubt about it. Obviously, Mike Shanahan. So like, the longer
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they have this sort of messed up process for putting
coaches forth for consideration, the more coaches are going to
get caught up in that. Like will not be an
issue in Seanna Tires, who knows, maybe not, hopefully not,
but right now it's hard to say who are the
coach like dougkand well.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
You know Parker today, you know my coach Mike Shanahan
was at practice today and the years pass. You know,
for whatever reason, coach Shanahan wasn't allowed back at the
team facility, but he was back there today and it
was great seeing him and coach Peyton kind of talk.
These two guys have similar paths. They both played at
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the same college, they both were quarterbacks. They both now
have coached the Denver Broncos. Shawn is trying to win
his first Super Bowl with the Denver Broncos. Do you
think that there is maybe in Sewan's mind a little
pressure as it pertains to his legacy, knowing as though
he's stepping into the house.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Dare I say that Mike Shanahan.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Built Well, yeah, that's a good question, Nick. I mean
in a lot of ways. In a lot of ways,
like Sean's legacy will be defined in different ways and
through different lenses depending on just like where you are,
what your framework for football is. Like, there'll be people
if you're just like a league observer, a general fan
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like you know, Sean had fifteen really successful years and
some bad stuff too, obviously in New Orleans and won
a Super Bowl and all that, but his legacy will
be as a winner and a great play designer and
a Super Bowl champion and who knows, maybe a multiple
time Super Bowl champion and all of that league wide. Certainly,
like for people in New Orleans, the legacy here is
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a little different, just because the odds are he's not
going to coach fifteen years here and if he went
to Super Bowl, he'll be, you know, one of several
to win a super Bowl here in Denver, whereas he's
one of one to win a Super Bowl in New Orleans.
So I don't think, like my guess is that he
doesn't spend a lot of time thinking about trying to
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match Mike Shannon. And I'm sure he'd love to win
two Super Bowls here back to back even better, But
like I just think it's more you're trying to win
a Super Bowl, you probably think about legacy sometimes, and
that legacy is gonna feel a little bit different if
you're a Broncos fan, or a Saints fan, or just
someone who pays attention to football in general.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Talvid Parker Gabriel from the Denver Post. You know, Parker,
as we look at uh UH training camp and we've
seen so far, we've talked a little bit about the
receiving you know, competition there, but what else has stood
out to you? I mean, we talked a little bit
about Sam Ailinger, you know, kind of raising an eyebrow
with how much he's getting rotated. I know the coach
said there's no competition, but my lie and I say otherwise,
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as you look around, you know, maybe the Jade Baron situation.
What what can you tell us about about those two situations?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, well, I mean I think at quarterback, like, you know,
Sean can say, well, you don't there's nothing. You know,
you don't need to make anything of it. But it's
the first time we've seen that Sam Ellinger has has
played with the twos, and he's done it on two
different days now, so it's pretty obviously a real competition
for the backup quarterback job. I tend to think, I
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don't I don't know this. I tend to think that
if Ellinger wins the number two job, that they'll keep
all three on the fifty three men roster. They might
just keep all three anyways, if they you know, they
clearly think all three of them are worthy of fifty
three man spot. And then and then there's a question
of like is there a market for one or the other,
and what does that market look like as you get
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closer to the cutdown, so on and so forth. John
Ay Barron's interesting because they're playing them at three different
spots Dime, Nickel, and outside corner, and Nicol is sort of,
you know, the a number one home for him obviously,
Dimes just a sub package that you're playing maybe what
ten or fifteen percent of the time, and so but
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that spot occupied. And Jakwan macmillans had a great camp, uh,
And any notion sort of coming into training camp that
he that jahn D Barron might compete for a starting
spot outside was quashed really fast because like, if there's
a list of players having a better start to training
camp for the Broncos than Robbie Moss, like it's pretty short.
He's just played. He's played his butt off every day
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so far. So that that is like there's just they've
got a lot of talent in the secondary, there's not
a starting job there to be had. I'm not quite
sure how Van chose the company squeezed more than the
thirty percent he played last year out of it as
long as they're healthy this year. But at the same time,
he might be the next man. I mean, certainly the
next man up at Nickel, it'd be an open question
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about him or Chris Abrams train on the outside probably,
And then I just wonder what would happen in the
season if one of the safeties got hurt. I know
Sean Payton over and over again, I said, he's not
playing safety. He's not playing safety. He's not playing safety.
But if you're talking about your most eleven talented players,
the rest of that safety room just doesn't have a
lot of experience playing. So maybe it'd be Devin Key,
maybe it would be Jail Skinner. But I just wonder
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if push came to shove, if that would be a
route they'd explore later in the season. But to be clear,
like they're not, they don't seem to be exploring it
right now.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Well, well, Parker, I'll say this, You don't know that
you need a person until someone goes down. And what
we've seen is that injuries take place all the time.
Like bo Nicks got injured, Steady had to go in
didn't look the same. So prepping these guys and showing
that versatility I think is really important. But I'm gonna
go back for a second, because Chris Abrams Drain and
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Johnny Barron, those two names came up a lot at
practice based on where I was standing, and it was like, okay, well,
if push came to shove, which one of those guys
would you look.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
To put in the game first? And I'm not even.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Gonna talk about Nicol, I'm not gonna talk about Dime.
We could have a conversation about safety. But in your mind,
from what you've seen thus far, right, if Roley Moss
was to go down, knock on wood, God forbid, who
would you, Parker Gabriel, who would you vote for a
pound the table for us say this is the guy
who should go in first, Johnny Baron or Chris Abrams Drain.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, yeah, noted personnel and defensive back specialist Parker Gabriel
Abrams Drain, Right, I mean like he he's got some
of the best ball skills on the team, and they
have thrown him into hot spots before. You know, there
was the game against Cleveland a couple of years ago
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when Jerry Judy was going off and they finally, they finally,
you know, put Abram's strain in the game in the
fourth quarter, and he did a good job. They've thrown
him into big spots before and he's responded to. I mean,
he's been beat a couple of times, like every corner
gets beat a couple of times, but he's a really
good like I don't I don't know every roster up
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and down in the league, obviously, but I just I
can't imagine that there are many non starting corners out
there who are better cover men than that guy. And
I'm sure there's situations rundowns where maybe its Shaddy Barron
actually did that a little bit last year, where Baron
would play in the in the early downs because he's
a good tackler, and then abrams Strain played more in
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passing situations. But look, if you're talking just like pure
outside corner coverage ability, Chris Abrams Drain has more experience
and he's acquitted himself pretty darn well when he's been
putting games.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Park Gabriel for the Never Post appreciates his always brother
less you guys Rocos Country night back into this the
text line, and we can chance to do something that
we try to do on this show when people leave
the beat that well, people need the beat that we respect. Anyway,
I'd have them on a for a fond farewell and
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without further ado, let's go out to the king what
comes from the hotline and bring it our guy, Luca Avans.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Luca, how you doing, buddy man?
Speaker 7 (18:45):
Guys, I appreciate you you having me on in those
incredibly trying words. It's it's strange, you know, last last
week a camp for me and just the start of
something for whatever happens out there. So uh yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Now you're gonna move on to the Golden State Warriors
beat correct and you were have you always been more
interested in basketball than football.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
I mean that's always been, you know, a dream, just
kind of finding my past. I've always wanted to try
my hand at covering hoops in the NBA world, and
so you know, this came up and figured can't really
couldn't really.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Pass it up.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
And I'm from the bay originally, so you know there's
there's ties there.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Well, Luca, since you're going out to the Bay Area
and you love the NBA, you know what, I'm just
gonna skip all the football questions altogether and I'm gonna
get down to brass tags and ask you a question
that everyone's asking themselves Lebron James Michael.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Jordan, Oh my god, Wow, you're really really showing the
big ones.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yes, we gonna let you.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
We gotta let you go quight way listen.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
I think that you know this is this is something
that's something I've deivated with my my friends for the
better part of a decade. I you know, initially, initially
I was I was Jordan all the way, and then
you know, over the courses the last of the last
few years. Man, it's just, uh, I don't think you
can argue with whist Lebron's resume at this point is
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that you gotta you gotta, you gotta give it to him.
I mean the guys, you know, shoot, I probably the
most incredible round of monitivity in sports history that's been.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
That's been Luca Evans, everybody, good nights.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
That's a thank you on my side. You hope here.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
That's the one thing we can't do is give sex
seekers any hope. You gotta keep his spirit crushed on
this kind of stuff. Look at what what's your what
as far as being out here Denver, what's your most
enduring memory of being on this Broncos beat.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
Wow, that's a that's a good one too. I Uh,
I think you know, from a larger scale perspective, Uh,
this is an incredibly unique fan base and uh, the
sheer passion you know that the Bronco country has for
this franchise. Uh, and kind of being the arbitrator of like, hey,
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you know, we can pick apart every single little detailed
this franchise. But if someone else tries, you know, expernally
tries to uh to say something even slightly negative, you know,
there's there's a there's a raucous uproar of community there.
So I I really enjoy you know, the fan base.
I enjoy Bronco Twitter. And of course, I mean, you know,
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I know everyone in this town has has gotten a
kick out of whatever Trust Conference interactions I've I've had
with with Sean Payton and so that has been That's
always been funny to uh to kind of see and
and witness and whatnot. I think my my favorite memory
that I'll always hold hear is coming into the locker
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room after you know, I think it was the the
Drake Greenlawn downhill question and uh from last year.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
And one of the one of the players going, are
you the are you the guy that Sean's always ticking
on And I was like, yep, and he was like,
He's like, that probably means the uh, you know you
respect you.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
So that was a that was a good that was
a good moment at the end of the day. That's
been a fun, fun dynamic for sure.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Well, look, I would definitely say that, uh, you know,
You're back and forth conversations and comments with Sean Payton
is always a Larry's especially one about the downhill. So
so with that being said, and you're going to cover basketball,
are you still going to be engaged and tied to
Broncos country and watching games and just when you see
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things ever now and again maybe tweet this and tweet that.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Is that still gonna be something that you're going to
continue to do?
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Oh? Absolutely. I mean I don't know how active I'm
gonna be on on Twitter. You know, I don't really
have a I don't have a length to be a
voice of authority certainly, but you know I'll be I mean, shoot,
it's like you you spend literally a year and a
half of your life, and I mean for me, that's
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a short period of time. Other folks on on the
beat much much much longer. But just so engrossed into
the ins and ouse and the day to day and uh,
I mean, shoot, you know, who knows, maybe I'll be
uh walking away from covering a potential super Bowl around here,
so uh that I'll be interested to see, you know,
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whatever happens with uh with this season, and I might
pop back into the Broncos Twitter every every now and
then I'll be I'll be interested. There's so much going on,
and I feel like I'm just walking away from.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Talk with Luke Evans from the Denver Post, who's leaving
the beat to go covered the Golden State Warris. You know,
there'd be a perfect opportunity for you to pop back
down on October fourth on the Broncos play the forty
nine Ers. At the forty nine Ers, Well, I, for one,
trust you with this mission, and that is to do
an accurate, thorough investigation of this electrical substation down there
that everybody's climate is responsible for the forty nine ers injuries.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
I just at a certain point like that's that's just
remarkable to me because once you have the thing about
narratives is that no matter if they're true or not,
once enough people start talking about them, they become impossible
to ignore. And I just think they have such an
interesting San Francisco does such an interesting situation on their
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hands where anytime, you know, anytime now that someone you
know comes up a little lame on a hamstring or whatever,
like a substation, that's only thing that people you know,
there's a Twitter account that is pretending to be the substation.
Like it's one of the crazier things I've seen. So yeah,
that's that might be. I may need to uh, I
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need to pitch that we'll see.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Well, speaking of narratives, that there are some narratives about Moss,
and I have to ask, I mean, when you look
at where he is come to this particular point, and
I think he's grown significantly.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
So do you think, based on what we've seen here
in camp so far, that.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
The previous narrative about Raleigh Moss we can now put
that dog to bed.
Speaker 7 (25:38):
I don't think you can put well, there's a lot
of narratives around Heavy Moss that have been touched on
the you know, in camp already, but I think we
can't make any declarative takeaways until we actually see it
play out in terms of you know, he was just
(25:58):
talking today about he feels like he's he's put what
he's done on display against you know, some of the
NFL's best, and now he wants to do it at
an elite level, and that remains.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
To be seen.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
I did think though, when you go back and you
look at the numbers hit his the penalties that he
drew dropped off significantly down the stretch down the second
half of the season. I do think he has, for
the most part, looked terrific in camp. Maybe still a
little bit handsy at times, but I think he it
(26:32):
just looks like he's operating with better, better technique. He's
very sticky. He's made plays on just about every receiver,
every body type, and that, you know, I think that's
a really interesting proposition, not only for this season, but
for whatever the Broncos choose to do at at cornerback
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and then your future.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Talking Luc Evans of the Never Pols getting ready to
addut steps, just go and take over all the Warriors
beat out there. Look at what advice would you give
to someone coming into the Broncos beat.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
I would just say, understand where this this team and disfranchises.
I think there's that you feel a genuine, very real
sense of hope and pride for a football town that's
used to winning and had about you know a little
(27:29):
bit less than a decade where things looked weak and
now all of a sudden like this is, this is
the this is the biggest show in town again and
that means something to this community. There's there's so much
going on between you know, playing for a new stadium,
the ownership group and this or that, and just to
(27:52):
have a mind on all of it, and you know,
don't be afraid to uh to uh throw a few
off the wall questions that the head coach of the
podium to what happens.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
So Sean Payton when he looks at his running back position,
I don't want to say he's giving the nod to RJ.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Harvey, but he thinks that RJ.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Harvey is taking steps, leaps and bounds me paraphrasing.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
As far as past protection.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
And we know how important past protection he is to
ensuring that a player is actually on the field When
you when you look at it, do you see it
the same way?
Speaker 7 (28:33):
Are we saying given the nod to Ardie Harvey over
Jenah coleman or as the art well not.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Not over either of those guys, but just in general
based on improvement of that part of the skill set.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Yeah, i'd say, I mean, I think that's real. You
know he I was just talking with r J. Harvey,
you know, one on one a few days ago, and
you mentioned that he's been playing more on third down
in UH in two minute situations. I think it's it's
very real that that we see a little bit more
of him in that role this season. And yeah, hang on, guys,
(29:13):
there's a there's a car that's that's going past.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
So you're not actually at a concert right now.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
No, I'm not. There's a I'm sitting outside and my god,
that's just the Subwhoopers going.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
No.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
I think that the pass protection jump is real for
for J. Harvey. I think he's shown what he can
do on wheel routes, on UH choice routes out of
the backfield. I think that's a growing part of his game.
And I you know, everyone talks about and I had
thought originally that man, maybe Jonah Coleman just steps in
right away it's the third down back. But to me,
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if if Sean Payton and the Broncos staff have trust
in R. J. Harvey, that you know, we can hang
up in in those past protection situations, it would make
sense to you know, want to use utilize, is receive
versatility and in two minutes and hurry up situations. I
think they could also end up doing a lot of
two back stuff in Davis Web's offense. For me, what
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i'd what I'd be looking at though it's the most interesting.
It is just I think Jonah Coleman right now already
looks maybe better as a runner, as a pure runner
of the football in terms of decisiveness between the tackles
than R. J. Harvey does right now. And that's just
my kind of takeaway from camp so far. So I'll
be interested to see how everyone's roles kind of plays
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out there.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Luke Evans for the Dipper post heading over to cover
the Golden State Warriors. Luca, I want to say for
all of us here, Man, we appreciate having you on
the beat. I think you were a bit of a
breath of fresh air and I always loved your interactions
with Sean and and of course we'll continue to follow
your career as as I expect you to go to
bigger and better things. And I guess I'll be plugged
into the Golden State Warriors now on my Twitter.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
Man, I appreciate it. Then. That means a lot. And
it's been you know, I can't fan enough good things
about this city and this fan base, and just feeling
like I was, you know, welcomed and supported in my
coverage from from day one, and you know, I was
really lucky to be on the stat for a year
(31:14):
and a half. So I've appreciated all the support from
you guys and from from beyond. So it's it's been
pretty incredible.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Coke Float help me this to be with Benjamin A.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Bright Man.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
You guys, you guys know, you guys know Stubens just
went there two to three days ago, something like that
best awesome roopier float. I don't even I don't know
that I've ever had a coke float in my life.
I'm always been a roop your float guy. So I'll
(31:54):
lean there that One's a lot easier for me than
than Lebron.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Jordan getting floortered in this debate because I'm the coach
flow guy.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Get fled, but we'll let you off. He's you know, hey, man,
we appreciate the time tonight. We look forward to uh
to keep it up with you on your career.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Man.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I wish you absolutely the best.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
Thank you, Thank you, guys, guys the best.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Luca Evans from the ever polict He's going on to
uh to cover the Golden State Warriors, and uh, we
always trying to do that when at least when guys
what respect leave the Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I like you that.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
People that I've not had on this show, and I
would never have on the show.
Speaker 8 (32:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
And I'm telling it all myself now, I guess, but
you know, yeah, Lucas he's a good he's a good dude.
Like when he came into he's just been kind of
a he was kind of a breath of fresh air
the way that he does things and and all that
kind of stuff. And you know, we love, you know,
obviously having Parker is his coworker on and all that
kind of stuff. I love just just chit chatting with
Luca down there and and and muppet heads with him
and stuff like that. He's a he's a smart kid,
(32:51):
shark kid and uh, you know, I don't want to
I don't want to use kid as a perjard if here.
He's just a lot younger than I am, and it
reminds it reminds me of you know, younger Hungary or me,
I guess back in the day.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Here's what I will say about Luca.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
You know we've had some interactions, but not a lot,
but you know, his approach is was very different. Like
you said, it's kind of a breath of fresh air
because their individuals have been covering, you know, the beat
for a lot of teams, right especially in this market,
and they had their own unique way of doing things,
(33:23):
and some of those ways I'm not a true fan of.
But to see that Luca was a true professional, and you.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Know I look forward to seeing him, you.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Know, at practice, to ask certain questions, to have to
watch his interaction with Sean Payton and vice versa. So
it's good to suck Man to not have in him,
but I wish him nothing the best.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
He's going back to the.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Bay Area, and if I'm not mistaken, he is from
the Bay Area, right.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, yeah, he's going for him of U's going back
home and all that too. It's not just h he's
going to he's moving sports or moving moved to a
different team. He's from that area. Gets to go back
you know, kind of home and then good for him.
Good for him for sure, so uh yeah, we wish
him him all the best.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
On that.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
We do have Chris thomasin coming up bottom of the hour,
get a chance to talk to him about what he's
seeing out there, uh at camp and you know, always
getting the chance to talk to Chris. We're gonna do
the NFL six pack a little bit earlier.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
We do that. I think next we come back.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
You listen to a Broncos country in night Aaron can't wait.
Oh talking about mister Jeter and his roster.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Oh my god, unreal, unreal roster.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
It hurts my heart.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yes, Mika Kelly, I had it bad for you at
Friday at lights just samow five six six nine zero
The text line. Brian texted and said, do you know
Today's National root Beer Float Day? I had no idea.
I didn't like root beer floats. I was always a
coke float guy.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
No, man, if there's gonna be a floats of all floats,
it's got to be a root beer flow with mad
A Gascar, another being ice cream.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Okay, I'm with you on the Matmada Gascar and I'll
be ice cream.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
But I am. I was always a coke float guy.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I just like it is.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Some one makes it, that makes it root beer. It's
called a.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Root beer float if it's kind of if it's got
the taste, doesn't even taste right. It tastes right to me.
That's like a spot like liver. How can we even
trust your opinion?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
You like living?
Speaker 5 (00:49):
That's like a sprite and mellow yellow. They look the same,
but they don't take my sella yellow do not look
the same. Mellow yellows like mountain dew doesn't look the same.
It doesn't taste the same either.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
My god, let's go out of the kaway coms for
hotline and bring on some of the far superior intellect
that can settle this once and for all. H Parker.
Apparently it is National root Beer Float Day, something I
didn't know. I always preferred coke floats to root beer floats.
Nick Ferguson has trying to shame me and tell me that,
you know that my breastanks and I can't even read good.
What say you, sir?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'm a traditionalist in this sense, nothing against the coke float,
but I am a root beer float man myself. You know,
Rupper sometimes gets a bad rap, which I just do
not understand.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I'm with you on that because a root beer is
like an underrated soda. But at the same time, I
don't know. I just like when I was doing the
ice cream thing, I always like to coke float a
little bit better on Parker.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I mean, the name is in the title, it's a
root beer float ice cream. I've never heard someone say,
excuse me, bartend it, can I have a coke float?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You have to keep it with me?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I don't know. I mean I guess it's sort of like,
you know, been kind of like big corporate guy, you know,
wants he'd probably likes the eminem cookie sandwich more than
just like a regular you know, chocolate chip cookie sandwich.
So you know, if you want to go for sort
of like the big name or whatever, that's fine, you
can do that.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Oh my god, he killed me right now, killing me
right now, Parker Game joining us on the show.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Parkers feels like the receiver are starting to separate himself
a little bit in this competition for wide receiver three
for the Denver Broncos after Wattle and Sutton and look
opponents on this when I've rated this PB thirteen, they
need to be strongly cautioned as Pat Bryant is putting
on a show.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, he's been really good in camp so far. I mean,
there's just no way around it, like and you know,
to be fair, like, I think Marvin Mims has been
pretty darn good too. And Mims is kind of like
like Pat Bryan. When Sean Payton was talking a couple
of days ago, he said, it'll be really easy to
define his role and that's just like he's just a
Sean Payton receiver like this from the moment they drafted
(03:01):
him in the third round, when when you know, I
think a lot of people thought he'd go quite a
bit later in the draft, and that you know, Mims
has sort of been pigeonholed into this more limited role.
And I just wonder, and you know, maybe it's just
camp and all that, but like, if there's a guy
who could really benefit from Davis Webb taking over play calling,
it seems to me like Mims could be one of them,
(03:24):
just the way similar to the way we talk about
Evan Ingram, Like maybe they'll have slightly different ways to
use and they can put them in different positions, maybe
they finally trust him to run more than a couple
of routes or whatever. But even saying all that about Mims,
it's pretty obvious that, like Pat Bryan's playing great. He's
tough over the middle of the field, he catches the
ball in traffic, he catches the ball down the field,
he's got run after catch. So and then oh, by
(03:46):
the way, you know, he's by far their best perimeter
blocking player two, so you know PP perimeter blocking. So
that's yeah, I mean, he's he's he's played his way
into you know, what looks like a pretty.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
So usually in this time of you know, a preseason,
injuries start to mount up. And luckily the Broncos haven't
had a guy any guy's cart it off, but a
lot of you know, self tissue injuries. But uh, the
Bronco is working out a couple of players today. I
mean to hear that and to see that, does that
(04:22):
give you any indication that there are certain positions that
maybe linebackers that they're not really happy about.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Well yeah, I mean I think you're always working guys
out this time of year, so that's part of it.
But certainly, like when you look at that list, I
mean it's it's at drushers basically, and and you know
not I think I think it looks obviously like Nick
Bonito did did the walk through stuff today. It doesn't
look like he's a long way off, but they'll probably
be a little bit careful with his workload for a
(04:51):
little while here. And the San McCullough is is hurt too.
We haven't seen him out there the last few days,
and so you're probably just sorting through to see if
they're another guy that you want to get a look at,
and maybe they're looking at the number of reps there
they've got going in practice and they think they need
another body there or something like that. So it's pretty
it's pretty normal for this time of year. But certainly,
(05:12):
like when you see a team work out a bunch
of guys that ostensibly play the same position, it's just
it's pretty obvious that they're at least considering, you know,
swapping a piece at the bottom of the roster or whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, usually that it feels like an indicator. And that's
one of those things that I was looking today at
the linebackers. You know that that kind of raised at a liebrow. There,
my guy Andre Carter from Army getting a little bit
of a work out. That's that's why it's fun for
me talking to Parker Gabriel from the Denver Post Hall
of Fame game going on right now, Arizona taking on
the Carolina Panthers, and already this might go down as
(05:47):
the most exciting Hall of Fame game of all time.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Oh yeah, I mean, you know, barn Burner, like, if
there's football on TV, this is a great thing about
the Hall of Fame game, even if it's not, you know,
fourteen all in the second quarter, Like there's football on TV.
What more can you want than that? So you know,
Carton Beck lighting it up, and let's see who else, Oh,
(06:10):
Haines I mean Carton Beck against Haines King. If that
doesn't sound like a twenty twenty five college football playoff.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Game, what does the heavy hitters? I mean the rumble
in the jungle, I don't know any much the foliage.
The foliage situation isn't Cincinnati in Ohio.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
But anyway, the rumble in the Monongahela Valley, it rolls
right off the tongue, rolls right off the tongue. You know.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
When when Tom Peyton was at the podium today, he
was asked the beavy of questions, and one of the
questions that I really paid attention to was being as
well or ask about how.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
People refer to him.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
David's web has referred to him as the Hall of
Fame coach. Other people around the league has have referred
to him as a Hall of Fame coach and his
genius or whatever. When when you look at the body
of work that Peyton has completed up to this point,
we all know that he's a Hall of Fame coach.
But what do you think about, you know, the culture
that he's established here. And the reason why I asked
(07:09):
that because culture is so big and so important, especially
to the winning ways here at the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
So what do you think.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
About the culture he's established here thus far?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well, I mean it's pretty impressive, right, like just the
what just going from eight wins to ten to fourteen
and you know, two short years in the playoffs and
when you watch him, like, there's no guarantee they could
have a big run of injuries or something like that.
They've got a really tough schedule. You know, there's no
such thing as a sure thing in the NFL. But
they when you watch them in camp, Like I've talked
(07:41):
to people that have seen them and seen other teams
this this camp already and they're like, yeah, I mean
they look really good. The defense is fast, their experience
on both sides of the ball. They've got a quarterback
going into a third season. They added Jaylen Waddell, Like,
there's no reason not to have really high expectations for
him again this season, and frankly, it's gonna look different
(08:01):
after this year. But they've done a good job so far.
There's a long way to go, obviously, but they've done
a good job of setting themselves up for future success,
even you know, in the in the face of having
to decide if you're gonna pay the quarterback or not.
So like, you know, they've they've put together a really
(08:21):
good team, a really good roster. And that's obviously a
credit to Sean Peyton. It's the credit to George Peyton,
it's a credit to the whole operation. But obviously, you
know Sean, like it's it's it's his team in so
many ways, and so that's yeah, I mean we'll see,
Like I think, obviously on the Hall of Fame front,
like the credentials are strong right now, but they become
(08:43):
beyond doubt on the field, you know, if he becomes
the first guy to win a Super Bowl two different teams.
So I think he even though he sort of deflected
and didn't really want to talk about himself in that
regard today, like it's impossible for that to not like
enter your mind from time to time about what your
legacy is going to be, about your bona fides for that,
(09:05):
and about the chance at some point here. So I'm
sure it's not why he wants to win a super Bowl.
But one of the results that they do win a
Super Bowl will be that he's just a surefire, no
doubt Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, I mean, and we all know that Shawn's definitely
cognizantive legacy. But does he need that? Does he need
to do them to do the undoneable as it were,
and win a Super Bowl with tw different teams to
make the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, Ben, I mean, that's a great question. I don't know.
I mean, and and part of the reason I don't
know is because the coaching process to get into the
Hall of Fame has just been a mess. I mean,
like if they if he coached five more years and
they're winning double digit games every year, like she is
going to be very high on the list of all
time wins. Like if he gets the two hundred wins
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in his career, there's just not very many guys that
have done that. So like, I think probably, I think
he's probably already a Hall of Famer. I think if
he coaches for any number of years and wins in
most of them in Denver, he's only gonna pad that
resume more. And if he went to Super Bowl, then
there's no doubt that he will get in. But like
(10:11):
either way, now with the you know, this sort of
screwy way that the coaching element works for induction into
the Hall of Fame, it's two or three years in
a row where the person who's put forward by the
Coaches Committee hasn't actually been inducted into the Hall. So
like now you've got this backlog where the committee thought
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Mike Holmgren is worthy, and then he goes in front
of the full voting panel and he doesn't get eighty percent,
so he's not in. So Holmegren's obviously you know, worthy,
but he's still got to get in Belich technologible this year,
he'll he'll be the candidate this year. There's almost no
doubt about it. Obviously, Mike Shanahan. So like, the longer
(10:52):
they have this sort of messed up process for putting
coaches forth for consideration, the more coaches are going to
get caught up in that. Like will not be an
issue in Seanna Tires, who knows, maybe not, hopefully not,
but right now it's hard to say who are the
coach like dougkand well.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
You know Parker today, you know my coach Mike Shanahan
was at practice today and the years pass. You know,
for whatever reason, coach Shanahan wasn't allowed back at the
team facility, but he was back there today and it
was great seeing him and coach Peyton kind of talk.
These two guys have similar paths. They both played at
(11:34):
the same college, they both were quarterbacks. They both now
have coached the Denver Broncos. Shawn is trying to win
his first Super Bowl with the Denver Broncos. Do you
think that there is maybe in Sewan's mind a little
pressure as it pertains to his legacy, knowing as though
he's stepping into the house.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Dare I say that Mike Shanahan.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Built Well, yeah, that's a good question, Nick. I mean
in a lot of ways. In a lot of ways,
like Sean's legacy will be defined in different ways and
through different lenses depending on just like where you are,
what your framework for football is. Like, there'll be people
if you're just like a league observer, a general fan
(12:15):
like you know, Sean had fifteen really successful years and
some bad stuff too, obviously in New Orleans and won
a Super Bowl and all that, but his legacy will
be as a winner and a great play designer and
a Super Bowl champion and who knows, maybe a multiple
time Super Bowl champion and all of that league wide. Certainly,
like for people in New Orleans, the legacy here is
(12:37):
a little different, just because the odds are he's not
going to coach fifteen years here and if he went
to Super Bowl, he'll be, you know, one of several
to win a super Bowl here in Denver, whereas he's
one of one to win a Super Bowl in New Orleans.
So I don't think, like my guess is that he
doesn't spend a lot of time thinking about trying to
(12:59):
match Mike Shannon. And I'm sure he'd love to win
two Super Bowls here back to back even better, But
like I just think it's more you're trying to win
a Super Bowl, you probably think about legacy sometimes, and
that legacy is gonna feel a little bit different if
you're a Broncos fan, or a Saints fan, or just
someone who pays attention to football in general.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Talvid Parker Gabriel from the Denver Post. You know, Parker,
as we look at uh UH training camp and we've
seen so far, we've talked a little bit about the
receiving you know, competition there, but what else has stood
out to you? I mean, we talked a little bit
about Sam Ailinger, you know, kind of raising an eyebrow
with how much he's getting rotated. I know the coach
said there's no competition, but my lie and I say otherwise,
(13:36):
as you look around, you know, maybe the Jade Baron situation.
What what can you tell us about about those two situations?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, well, I mean I think at quarterback, like, you know,
Sean can say, well, you don't there's nothing. You know,
you don't need to make anything of it. But it's
the first time we've seen that Sam Ellinger has has
played with the twos, and he's done it on two
different days now, so it's pretty obviously a real competition
for the backup quarterback job. I tend to think, I
(14:05):
don't I don't know this. I tend to think that
if Ellinger wins the number two job, that they'll keep
all three on the fifty three men roster. They might
just keep all three anyways, if they you know, they
clearly think all three of them are worthy of fifty
three man spot. And then and then there's a question
of like is there a market for one or the other,
and what does that market look like as you get
(14:26):
closer to the cutdown, so on and so forth. John
Ay Barron's interesting because they're playing them at three different
spots Dime, Nickel, and outside corner, and Nicol is sort of,
you know, the a number one home for him obviously,
Dimes just a sub package that you're playing maybe what
ten or fifteen percent of the time, and so but
(14:47):
that spot occupied. And Jakwan macmillans had a great camp, uh,
And any notion sort of coming into training camp that
he that jahn D Barron might compete for a starting
spot outside was quashed really fast because like, if there's
a list of players having a better start to training
camp for the Broncos than Robbie Moss, like it's pretty short.
He's just played. He's played his butt off every day
(15:10):
so far. So that that is like there's just they've
got a lot of talent in the secondary, there's not
a starting job there to be had. I'm not quite
sure how Van chose the company squeezed more than the
thirty percent he played last year out of it as
long as they're healthy this year. But at the same time,
he might be the next man. I mean, certainly the
next man up at Nickel, it'd be an open question
(15:32):
about him or Chris Abrams train on the outside probably,
And then I just wonder what would happen in the
season if one of the safeties got hurt. I know
Sean Payton over and over again, I said, he's not
playing safety. He's not playing safety. He's not playing safety.
But if you're talking about your most eleven talented players,
the rest of that safety room just doesn't have a
lot of experience playing. So maybe it'd be Devin Key,
maybe it would be Jail Skinner. But I just wonder
(15:53):
if push came to shove, if that would be a
route they'd explore later in the season. But to be clear,
like they're not, they don't seem to be exploring it
right now.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Well, well, Parker, I'll say this, You don't know that
you need a person until someone goes down. And what
we've seen is that injuries take place all the time.
Like bo Nicks got injured, Steady had to go in
didn't look the same. So prepping these guys and showing
that versatility I think is really important. But I'm gonna
go back for a second, because Chris Abrams Drain and
(16:23):
Johnny Barron, those two names came up a lot at
practice based on where I was standing, and it was like, okay, well,
if push came to shove, which one of those guys
would you look.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
To put in the game first? And I'm not even.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Gonna talk about Nicol, I'm not gonna talk about Dime.
We could have a conversation about safety. But in your mind,
from what you've seen thus far, right, if Roley Moss
was to go down, knock on wood, God forbid, who
would you, Parker Gabriel, who would you vote for a
pound the table for us say this is the guy
who should go in first, Johnny Baron or Chris Abrams Drain.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, yeah, noted personnel and defensive back specialist Parker Gabriel
Abrams Drain, Right, I mean like he he's got some
of the best ball skills on the team, and they
have thrown him into hot spots before. You know, there
was the game against Cleveland a couple of years ago
(17:21):
when Jerry Judy was going off and they finally, they finally,
you know, put Abram's strain in the game in the
fourth quarter, and he did a good job. They've thrown
him into big spots before and he's responded to. I mean,
he's been beat a couple of times, like every corner
gets beat a couple of times, but he's a really
good like I don't I don't know every roster up
(17:42):
and down in the league, obviously, but I just I
can't imagine that there are many non starting corners out
there who are better cover men than that guy. And
I'm sure there's situations rundowns where maybe its Shaddy Barron
actually did that a little bit last year, where Baron
would play in the in the early downs because he's
a good tackler, and then abrams Strain played more in
(18:05):
passing situations. But look, if you're talking just like pure
outside corner coverage ability, Chris Abrams Drain has more experience
and he's acquitted himself pretty darn well when he's been
putting games.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Park Gabriel for the Never Post appreciates his always brother
less you guys Rocos Country night back into this the
text line, and we can chance to do something that
we try to do on this show when people leave
the beat that well, people need the beat that we respect. Anyway,
I'd have them on a for a fond farewell and
(18:40):
without further ado, let's go out to the king what
comes from the hotline and bring it our guy, Luca Avans.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Luca, how you doing, buddy man?
Speaker 7 (18:45):
Guys, I appreciate you you having me on in those
incredibly trying words. It's it's strange, you know, last last
week a camp for me and just the start of
something for whatever happens out there. So uh yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Now you're gonna move on to the Golden State Warriors
beat correct and you were have you always been more
interested in basketball than football.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
I mean that's always been, you know, a dream, just
kind of finding my past. I've always wanted to try
my hand at covering hoops in the NBA world, and
so you know, this came up and figured can't really
couldn't really.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Pass it up.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
And I'm from the bay originally, so you know there's
there's ties there.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Well, Luca, since you're going out to the Bay Area
and you love the NBA, you know what, I'm just
gonna skip all the football questions altogether and I'm gonna
get down to brass tags and ask you a question
that everyone's asking themselves Lebron James Michael.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Jordan, Oh my god, Wow, you're really really showing the
big ones.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yes, we gonna let you.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
We gotta let you go quight way listen.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
I think that you know this is this is something
that's something I've deivated with my my friends for the
better part of a decade. I you know, initially, initially
I was I was Jordan all the way, and then
you know, over the courses the last of the last
few years. Man, it's just, uh, I don't think you
can argue with whist Lebron's resume at this point is
(20:25):
that you gotta you gotta, you gotta give it to him.
I mean the guys, you know, shoot, I probably the
most incredible round of monitivity in sports history that's been.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
That's been Luca Evans, everybody, good nights.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
That's a thank you on my side. You hope here.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
That's the one thing we can't do is give sex
seekers any hope. You gotta keep his spirit crushed on
this kind of stuff. Look at what what's your what
as far as being out here Denver, what's your most
enduring memory of being on this Broncos beat.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
Wow, that's a that's a good one too. I Uh,
I think you know, from a larger scale perspective, Uh,
this is an incredibly unique fan base and uh, the
sheer passion you know that the Bronco country has for
this franchise. Uh, and kind of being the arbitrator of like, hey,
(21:24):
you know, we can pick apart every single little detailed
this franchise. But if someone else tries, you know, expernally
tries to uh to say something even slightly negative, you know,
there's there's a there's a raucous uproar of community there.
So I I really enjoy you know, the fan base.
I enjoy Bronco Twitter. And of course, I mean, you know,
(21:47):
I know everyone in this town has has gotten a
kick out of whatever Trust Conference interactions I've I've had
with with Sean Payton and so that has been That's
always been funny to uh to kind of see and
and witness and whatnot. I think my my favorite memory
that I'll always hold hear is coming into the locker
(22:09):
room after you know, I think it was the the
Drake Greenlawn downhill question and uh from last year.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
And one of the one of the players going, are
you the are you the guy that Sean's always ticking
on And I was like, yep, and he was like,
He's like, that probably means the uh, you know you
respect you.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
So that was a that was a good that was
a good moment at the end of the day. That's
been a fun, fun dynamic for sure.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Well, look, I would definitely say that, uh, you know,
You're back and forth conversations and comments with Sean Payton
is always a Larry's especially one about the downhill. So
so with that being said, and you're going to cover basketball,
are you still going to be engaged and tied to
Broncos country and watching games and just when you see
(23:01):
things ever now and again maybe tweet this and tweet that.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Is that still gonna be something that you're going to
continue to do?
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Oh? Absolutely. I mean I don't know how active I'm
gonna be on on Twitter. You know, I don't really
have a I don't have a length to be a
voice of authority certainly, but you know I'll be I mean, shoot,
it's like you you spend literally a year and a
half of your life, and I mean for me, that's
(23:30):
a short period of time. Other folks on on the
beat much much much longer. But just so engrossed into
the ins and ouse and the day to day and uh,
I mean, shoot, you know, who knows, maybe I'll be
uh walking away from covering a potential super Bowl around here,
so uh that I'll be interested to see, you know,
(23:52):
whatever happens with uh with this season, and I might
pop back into the Broncos Twitter every every now and
then I'll be I'll be interested. There's so much going on,
and I feel like I'm just walking away from.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Talk with Luke Evans from the Denver Post, who's leaving
the beat to go covered the Golden State Warris. You know,
there'd be a perfect opportunity for you to pop back
down on October fourth on the Broncos play the forty
nine Ers. At the forty nine Ers, Well, I, for one,
trust you with this mission, and that is to do
an accurate, thorough investigation of this electrical substation down there
that everybody's climate is responsible for the forty nine ers injuries.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
I just at a certain point like that's that's just
remarkable to me because once you have the thing about
narratives is that no matter if they're true or not,
once enough people start talking about them, they become impossible
to ignore. And I just think they have such an
interesting San Francisco does such an interesting situation on their
(24:49):
hands where anytime, you know, anytime now that someone you
know comes up a little lame on a hamstring or whatever,
like a substation, that's only thing that people you know,
there's a Twitter account that is pretending to be the substation.
Like it's one of the crazier things I've seen. So yeah,
that's that might be. I may need to uh, I
(25:12):
need to pitch that we'll see.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Well, speaking of narratives, that there are some narratives about Moss,
and I have to ask, I mean, when you look
at where he is come to this particular point, and
I think he's grown significantly.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
So do you think, based on what we've seen here
in camp so far, that.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
The previous narrative about Raleigh Moss we can now put
that dog to bed.
Speaker 7 (25:38):
I don't think you can put well, there's a lot
of narratives around Heavy Moss that have been touched on
the you know, in camp already, but I think we
can't make any declarative takeaways until we actually see it
play out in terms of you know, he was just
(25:58):
talking today about he feels like he's he's put what
he's done on display against you know, some of the
NFL's best, and now he wants to do it at
an elite level, and that remains.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
To be seen.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
I did think though, when you go back and you
look at the numbers hit his the penalties that he
drew dropped off significantly down the stretch down the second
half of the season. I do think he has, for
the most part, looked terrific in camp. Maybe still a
little bit handsy at times, but I think he it
(26:32):
just looks like he's operating with better, better technique. He's
very sticky. He's made plays on just about every receiver,
every body type, and that, you know, I think that's
a really interesting proposition, not only for this season, but
for whatever the Broncos choose to do at at cornerback
(26:52):
and then your future.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Talking Luc Evans of the Never Pols getting ready to
addut steps, just go and take over all the Warriors
beat out there. Look at what advice would you give
to someone coming into the Broncos beat.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
I would just say, understand where this this team and disfranchises.
I think there's that you feel a genuine, very real
sense of hope and pride for a football town that's
used to winning and had about you know a little
(27:29):
bit less than a decade where things looked weak and
now all of a sudden like this is, this is
the this is the biggest show in town again and
that means something to this community. There's there's so much
going on between you know, playing for a new stadium,
the ownership group and this or that, and just to
(27:52):
have a mind on all of it, and you know,
don't be afraid to uh to uh throw a few
off the wall questions that the head coach of the
podium to what happens.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
So Sean Payton when he looks at his running back position,
I don't want to say he's giving the nod to RJ.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Harvey, but he thinks that RJ.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Harvey is taking steps, leaps and bounds me paraphrasing.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
As far as past protection.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
And we know how important past protection he is to
ensuring that a player is actually on the field When
you when you look at it, do you see it
the same way?
Speaker 7 (28:33):
Are we saying given the nod to Ardie Harvey over
Jenah coleman or as the art well not.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Not over either of those guys, but just in general
based on improvement of that part of the skill set.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Yeah, i'd say, I mean, I think that's real. You
know he I was just talking with r J. Harvey,
you know, one on one a few days ago, and
you mentioned that he's been playing more on third down
in UH in two minute situations. I think it's it's
very real that that we see a little bit more
of him in that role this season. And yeah, hang on, guys,
(29:13):
there's a there's a car that's that's going past.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
So you're not actually at a concert right now.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
No, I'm not. There's a I'm sitting outside and my god,
that's just the Subwhoopers going.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
No.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
I think that the pass protection jump is real for
for J. Harvey. I think he's shown what he can
do on wheel routes, on UH choice routes out of
the backfield. I think that's a growing part of his game.
And I you know, everyone talks about and I had
thought originally that man, maybe Jonah Coleman just steps in
right away it's the third down back. But to me,
(29:48):
if if Sean Payton and the Broncos staff have trust
in R. J. Harvey, that you know, we can hang
up in in those past protection situations, it would make
sense to you know, want to use utilize, is receive
versatility and in two minutes and hurry up situations. I
think they could also end up doing a lot of
two back stuff in Davis Web's offense. For me, what
(30:09):
i'd what I'd be looking at though it's the most interesting.
It is just I think Jonah Coleman right now already
looks maybe better as a runner, as a pure runner
of the football in terms of decisiveness between the tackles
than R. J. Harvey does right now. And that's just
my kind of takeaway from camp so far. So I'll
be interested to see how everyone's roles kind of plays
(30:30):
out there.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Luke Evans for the Dipper post heading over to cover
the Golden State Warriors. Luca, I want to say for
all of us here, Man, we appreciate having you on
the beat. I think you were a bit of a
breath of fresh air and I always loved your interactions
with Sean and and of course we'll continue to follow
your career as as I expect you to go to
bigger and better things. And I guess I'll be plugged
into the Golden State Warriors now on my Twitter.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
Man, I appreciate it. Then. That means a lot. And
it's been you know, I can't fan enough good things
about this city and this fan base, and just feeling
like I was, you know, welcomed and supported in my
coverage from from day one, and you know, I was
really lucky to be on the stat for a year
(31:14):
and a half. So I've appreciated all the support from
you guys and from from beyond. So it's it's been
pretty incredible.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Coke Float help me this to be with Benjamin A.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Bright Man.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
You guys, you guys know, you guys know Stubens just
went there two to three days ago, something like that
best awesome roopier float. I don't even I don't know
that I've ever had a coke float in my life.
I'm always been a roop your float guy. So I'll
(31:54):
lean there that One's a lot easier for me than
than Lebron.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Jordan getting floortered in this debate because I'm the coach
flow guy.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Get fled, but we'll let you off. He's you know, hey, man,
we appreciate the time tonight. We look forward to uh
to keep it up with you on your career.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Man.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I wish you absolutely the best.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
Thank you, Thank you, guys, guys the best.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Luca Evans from the ever polict He's going on to
uh to cover the Golden State Warriors, and uh, we
always trying to do that when at least when guys
what respect leave the Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I like you that.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
People that I've not had on this show, and I
would never have on the show.
Speaker 8 (32:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
And I'm telling it all myself now, I guess, but
you know, yeah, Lucas he's a good he's a good dude.
Like when he came into he's just been kind of
a he was kind of a breath of fresh air
the way that he does things and and all that
kind of stuff. And you know, we love, you know,
obviously having Parker is his coworker on and all that
kind of stuff. I love just just chit chatting with
Luca down there and and and muppet heads with him
and stuff like that. He's a he's a smart kid,
(32:51):
shark kid and uh, you know, I don't want to
I don't want to use kid as a perjard if here.
He's just a lot younger than I am, and it
reminds it reminds me of you know, younger Hungary or me,
I guess back in the day.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Here's what I will say about Luca.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
You know we've had some interactions, but not a lot,
but you know, his approach is was very different. Like
you said, it's kind of a breath of fresh air
because their individuals have been covering, you know, the beat
for a lot of teams, right especially in this market,
and they had their own unique way of doing things,
(33:23):
and some of those ways I'm not a true fan of.
But to see that Luca was a true professional, and you.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Know I look forward to seeing him, you.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Know, at practice, to ask certain questions, to have to
watch his interaction with Sean Payton and vice versa. So
it's good to suck Man to not have in him,
but I wish him nothing the best.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
He's going back to the.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Bay Area, and if I'm not mistaken, he is from
the Bay Area, right.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, yeah, he's going for him of U's going back
home and all that too. It's not just h he's
going to he's moving sports or moving moved to a
different team. He's from that area. Gets to go back
you know, kind of home and then good for him.
Good for him for sure, so uh yeah, we wish
him him all the best.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
On that.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
We do have Chris thomasin coming up bottom of the hour,
get a chance to talk to him about what he's
seeing out there, uh at camp and you know, always
getting the chance to talk to Chris. We're gonna do
the NFL six pack a little bit earlier.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
We do that. I think next we come back.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
You listen to a Broncos country in night Aaron can't wait.
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