08-27-26 Hour 1 of Broncos Country Tonight with Steve Atwater

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Steve Atwater in studio. Zach Seeger's back there behind the glass. 56690,
the text line as always.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
How we doing, fellas?

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Nick is fired up. He is fired up.

Speaker 4 (00:09):
You know, I'm fired up, man. It's always great to
sit down with Steve and talk football because we play
the safety position.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
We see some of the same things.

Speaker 4 (00:19):
And that was the part that was really funny to
me because I tried to explain some of these things
to other people. They don't see it.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
If you haven't been in that situation, it's hard to...
Hold on.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
There are a couple people who cover this game that
they would tell you, as someone told me once before,
I've been.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Covering this game longer than you.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Which makes them think that they know more than me.
And Nick Ferguson's like, I've been covering people in the
league and you never did.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
See, that's something that I have never said to anyone.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
But the bed devil on your shoulder was like, you
know what you should tell him.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
You know what you should say right now.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
I can't do that. Like, I have a cousin in Washington.
And when he and I talk about football, he was like,
why don't you just tell them that you played and
they didn't? I was like, no, because that's low-hanging fruit
because that's the obvious thing.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
We know that. So I'm not going to say that.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
The thing about low-hanging fruit is it tastes just as
delicious when you pick it as the stuff you had
to go to the top of the tree to get.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
No, man, I'm not going to say that, ever say
that to anyone.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Do you think it a lot?

Speaker 6 (01:30):
Hell yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Of course I think it.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
But I never feel the desire to say that because
it's obvious.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
I know I played it, and they didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
So to me, could I squash them like a bug
in a way? Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
But why do it?

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Satisfaction.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
No. Chris Rock said it one time, and he's standing up.
You do it for the walk-off, for the backdrop. No.
Chris Rock once said in his stand-up, you can push
an old man down the flight of stairs, but just
don't do it. Right? You know you can do it.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
The thing is, though, Nick, there are some people who
haven't played who.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Do know the game.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah. Yes, exactly.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
All right.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
There are those who haven't played.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
They put the work in.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Yes. I love talking to those people.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Okay. Because they keep an open mind.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Right?

Speaker 4 (02:20):
But talking to you or talking to Rod... You get it.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
You get it.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, we speak the same language.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Same language.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
That's why I'm fired up.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
That's why you're fired up.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Well, no, not just that, but there is a game tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
There is a game tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
And we know on starting Sunday, guys are going to
start losing some jobs. Right? So I'm happy for the
game on Friday. I'm sad for D-Day.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
One of the guys that could lose his job might
be quarterbacking opposite the Denver Broncos, J.J.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Several teams have reached out to the Vikings recently. He's
lost his starting job, obviously, to Kyler Murray. Carson Wentz
is about to pass him on the depth chart.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
J.J.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
McCarthy obviously played college ball for Jim Harbaugh.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
The L.A.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Chargers could use a backup. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers could
use a backup.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
J.J.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
McCarthy could be on the move.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Well, hold on now.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
I do recall being at, two years ago, Broncos draft
party at Empower Field. And it was so many people
who were hoping that J.J. McCarthy's name was called when
the Broncos picked, but Minnesota picked him first.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Ryan Edwards being one of them.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Now, we know Right, that we have a backup quarterback
issue here. Right? Now.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
No.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
No.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
No.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Don't start at me. What am I starting? I'm just
asking a question.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I will say that there are two teams JJ McCarthy
will not go to. One of them will be staying
in Minnesota, and the other will be the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Wouldn't that be great if it happened, though?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Why?

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Remember when Sean Payton trolled everybody?

Speaker 2 (03:53):
He was like, yeah, I tricked him into drafting that bum.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
What do you mean, though? You remember that?

Speaker 2 (03:58):
The presser?

Speaker 5 (03:59):
I don't think you said bum. I'm going to come here. Like,
we thought we were really into it. I may have
thrown a bone in there myself. I may have ad-libbed
that part.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
But I'm just.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Sign me up for the chaos.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
But the implication was there.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Sean Payton was like, this scrub.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
I just tricked Minnesota into drafting this scrub.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Well, guess what? The Falcons need a quarterback because they...
Quarterback purgatory right now.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Well, they're trying to rush Michael Penix back to be
the week one starter. He's not going to play this
week because he's not ready. But they're trying to rush
him back to be the week one starter because Tua
has apparently been horrible for them so far.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Oh, really?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
They might even just punt on him. They might just
cut him.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
No way.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
And might ruin the season with Penix and Jack Strand
and maybe trade for Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
That's crazy because when I looked at.

Speaker 6 (04:49):
When we signed Jalen Waddle and I looked at some film,
I was like, man.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
He was putting that ball in the money.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Mike McDaniel covered a lot of flaws for him. I
will say that I've talked to some people, one of
whom coached, I'll tell you who it is during the break,
one of whom coached to a And they questioned his
football IQ, his toughness. They say that he's got a
disconnect between his, his relatability in the lock. He's got
like that Russell Wilson, your relatability issue.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
In the locker room.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
And they, in, you know, and you, you sneeze on
him and he's, he's hurt for six months.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
So, you know, there's, there's, and now, you know, he's
in Atlanta. He can't hit the broad side of a barn.
I mean, he looked, he just looked lost in the
games he's played in. He looked lost in joint practices.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
And it's not like, you know, I mean, anyway, I, I,
I am under the impression he's not going to be
there in Atlanta this year.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Oh, he's not going to make the team?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
I'm under the impression they're trying to move on from
him one way or the other. Wow, that would be surprising.
I mean, that would be a big shock.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
When you looked at the moves that they made this
offseason and bring in Tui, and you thought that he
was going to be the guy, and now I'm not
even sure he's going to make the roster.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Wow, that's news to me.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
You know what, Steve?

Speaker 4 (06:03):
I got some other news for you because, obviously, you
are resident, ringer-famer, hall-of-famer for the Denver Broncos. So I
want to ask this question. Who do you think is
probably the most influential Bronco in, like, team history? Obviously,
there's something behind this question that I'm asking. I'll let

(06:26):
you answer, and then I'll just further the point.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
It's only one name. Who else are you thinking of?

Speaker 4 (06:31):
I'm asking you. John Elway.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Speaking of which, John Elway is one of those individuals.
But there is, as Yoda said, or better yet, as
Obi-Wan Kenobi said to Master Yoda, there is another.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Go ahead. Floyd Little.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
100%.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
That's a good point.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
And the reason I brought this up, I wanted to
have this conversation, but on the day that you were here,
I just figured this would be better with you being
here to get your input because what Floyd did for
this franchise... Save it.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Make sure the franchise stayed in Denver.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
It stayed in Denver. And I think a lot of
fans forget that. Until I came here, I didn't know
the story of how that actually manifested. And when Mr.
B passed, I had to... Man, I was blessed to
have two guys sitting.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
In front of me.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Right.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Terrell Davis and Floyd Little.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
And.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Seeing Floyd, I was trying not to fanboy. It's almost
like when I see you, not fanboy. Steve, you and
I have had this conversation before. It's for a legitimate reason.
But watching him and knowing what he did for this organization,
so it got me to thinking that obviously the team
is thinking about building a new stadium at some point.
And in the current stadium, there's a statue of Mr. B.

(07:55):
So I put it on social media. I said, well,
wouldn't it be great when the team builds the new stadium?
that there are other statues that are placed around the venue.
One of John Elway, two of Floyd Little. That would
be awesome. That's a great idea.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
I'm full of great ideas.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Are we only doing two statues?

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Well, what other statues?

Speaker 4 (08:17):
I mean, those are two in one.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
I didn't do.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Enough of that.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
They'll probably give me a plaque, not a statue.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
If it's in the stadium, you'll remember.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
My name is written in marker in the outhouse right outside.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Of Gate 14.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Is it a permanent marker?

Speaker 2 (08:36):
I love the incorrect phone number. Oh, see, see.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
That's a whole different reason, man.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
Now, you know, one of the things that I found
out probably seven, eight years ago, after I started working
with the team, was the miniature stadium.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Many Mile High.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
It actually has every.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Player that played.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
In Broncos history on that stadium.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
The names are of every player.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Really?

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Every player.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Wait a minute.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
I walked past Minnie Mile High. We broadcast during the
regular games. Where is that located? You just got to look.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
This is going to be a social media content for
Nick Ferguson this season. He's going to go find the names.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
I'm going to go find it tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
Well, now, this was several years ago when I looked.
Hopefully they're still updating it. But it was accurate through
at least 2021.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Didn't know that. Neither did I.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
I was like, wow, this is cool.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Now I have to go and definitely check it.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
But I still think that when the team builds the
new stadium and we know that there are several gates,
the gates have numbers. At gate number seven, guess who's
there welcoming you into the gates? John elway statues right
there gate number four floyd little statue right there now

(10:00):
broncos country i know you guys are listening to to
us right now holly if you hear me if you
if you would like to see that happen hit us
up on the text line because ben would you like
to see that happen i mean.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I'm not a post let's do it are we gonna
put a drew lock on gate three Half Drew, half Centaur.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
No, no, no, no. There's not enough of them.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
I'd like to see that.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
We call him something else.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
We need a Steve statue in there. The one of
him knocking a Koye over.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
What better way to welcome the Chiefs?

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Here to town, the statue of Steve Atwater bowling over
Christian McCoy, they have to walk past to walk in
the stadium.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
They won't walk past it anyway because they go around,
you know, they got their own access.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
If you won't put the statue there outside where you
have 5280 and the thin air, put a big mural,
painted mural of that play right there. So when they
walk out, that's exactly what they have to see, Steve.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
What a way to welcome Chiefs fans. We are magnanimous
people here in Denver. We want to welcome you to
our stadium with this mural of one of your players.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Equal opportunity community.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Why did they do that?

Speaker 3 (11:19):
That's disrespect.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
I mean... But it's a way to pay homage to the... present, past,
and future, all simultaneously. Because there's so many. That's the
one thing I love about playing for this team and
living here and seeing so many players still reside here
in Denver is because it is a standard and a

(11:41):
culture that has been established.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
And you can look.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
There's 31 other teams. Not every team can say that
they have these type of alumni, these type of players.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
They can't say it. They cannot say not everything. What
do you mean by these type of players?

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Well, players who contribute to the organization in a big way,
both on and off the field, because that was a
big issue for Mr. B when I was a player,
that you did the right thing on the field, you
did the right thing off the field as well. But
having the type of players, the ring of fame player,
but knowing as though those players still call Denver home.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Like Peyton Manning played the bulk of his career for
the Colts.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
What does he call home?

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Denver. I'm just saying, Steve.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah. I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
The 646 is wondering if Paxton Lynch should get a statue.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Paxton.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
With a very tiny, tiny, tiny statue.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
That pirate mustache. 720 Barrelman has a statue.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Barrelman does. And then they do the race in the
game with the Barrelman race. That's always fun. That one's
always fun. Paxton gets the mark in the field house.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Right.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
His face is on the urinal cakes.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
What? Wow.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
The skid from his terrible football.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Oh. Wow. I mean, you guys are cold-blooded.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
That's messed up. That's messed up.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
First, Ben let it off, and you followed him.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
You still have it. I'm not understanding.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Look, what better honor than to have your face in
the Broncos locker room?

Speaker 3 (13:14):
See, Zach, here's what's happening to you.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
See, since Grant hasn't been here, you've been with us
for a while, and Ben is starting to rub off.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
On you in a very negative way.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
We've got a phrasing.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
We've got to phrase that a different way, too.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Ooh.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, pause.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Oh, oh, Ben.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
We have phrased that differently.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I'm influencing. Yes, influencing.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
My bad.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
My bad.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
My bad. My bad. Thank you for the correction. My bad.
He's having a negative influence on you.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Oh, yeah, that's a little better.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
That's better.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Can you expect that from the record?

Speaker 7 (13:47):
I think there's a reason why they haven't scrubbed that
thing off the walls. It wouldn't be that hard to
remove the reminder of that errant past.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
I think it's a humorous.

Speaker 7 (14:00):
Little reminder of Paxton for everyone involved.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
All the time.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
There's a lot of infamy.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
9-7, I was going to say, a Paxton Lynch with
the statue of a Lego figurine.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Dang.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
With craggle on it.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
You have to watch the Lego.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Movie to understand what I said about the craggle.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
You should watch that. It's a funny movie. Let's see.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
I still don't understand why they didn't pick Lone Tree
or near DIA.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
They would already be building. I don't get it. Talk
about the new stadium.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Listen, DIA, man.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
DIA is not even in Denver.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
It's in Kansas. Yes.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Have you ever driven to DIA?

Speaker 2 (14:37):
That's not even in the state.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
That's a long way.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
That's a long way. And I know they would say,
you know, get the light rail to go that far.
Who wants to be on the train that long? No
one wants to be on the train that long. We
can't get people to ride the light rail anyway.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yes, downtown.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
I'm just saying. That's the thing that always amazes me, though.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
It's like, come on, man.

Speaker 6 (14:56):
The Walton Penners, man, they've been around the block a
few times. They know a few things. They know what
they're doing, bro.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
They know what they're doing. And the plan that they
have to get this thing built, you know, I like.
You have some politicians in there trying last minute to
get their pet, you know, things added to certain things and.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Do whatever else. And it'll get done. I think there's
a lot of people stressing this thing.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
It's going to get done.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Let's see here.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
646 asks Steve, underrated Bronco of all time, Howard Griffith.

Speaker 6 (15:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I don't know about all time. Who's the most underrated
Bronco of all time?

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Is it Dennis? You know what I mean. That's what
I say, bro. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I mean, he's got to be on the list somewhere.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Dennis was the man. He's top on that list as
far as being underrated. Yeah. Man, I just remember being
on the field with him, man, and I'm like, oh, dang.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
I was like, whoo, this boy plays the ball right here.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
I was like, man, I got to pick it up.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Have you ever had one of those moments on the
field where you were running to a play, And Dennis
came and just kind.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Of ran past you.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Stole a tackle.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
I tell you, I was running over to make a tackle,
and he came by and just, pow!

Speaker 4 (16:06):
And it was loud.

Speaker 6 (16:08):
And I'm just thinking, damn. I'm like, I got to
pick it up, bro. I'm not going fast enough.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
I'm trying to think of all the names that get
mentioned out there. of who would be the most underrated,
the name that doesn't get mentioned. If you mention, like,
the top 10 Broncos, 15 Broncos of all time, right?
I think Carl Mecklenburg in there, too. But he's always
in the top 10. Randy Gratishar is always in the
top 10. Like, who's the name that, if you had
to list the top 15 Broncos, a name that doesn't
get mentioned?

Speaker 2 (16:32):
And I have a name in mind.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I'll say Steve Foley.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Okay, that's one. That's certainly one. I would say Marty Chavis.
Almost never gets mentioned.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Ah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Almost never gets mentioned. And he's one of those ones
that probably belongs on that list somewhere.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
The Colorado Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Just kind of, what, two years ago?

Speaker 4 (16:49):
Yeah. Yeah, Steve Foley, that's a good one. Tom Nalen.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, well, I mean, Nalen's probably one of the second
best players in franchise history.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
If you want.

Speaker 7 (17:02):
To talk about underrated, that's not a guy who gets
mentioned in a lot of.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
I know.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
I think he never comes around.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
I wish he would come around. Good luck on that one.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
We miss him, man.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
He's a great guy. Okay, so Nalen went.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Into this thing full-fledged because before I got here, apparently
the offensive line established this rule. where no one did
any media, right?

Speaker 3 (17:25):
And if you did, you'd get fined.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Like, when I came here, Ephraim Salaam was constantly in
the media, and he was fined all the time, but
now Ephraim.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Fine by who?

Speaker 3 (17:34):
The Office of Alignment. Oh, okay.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Fine him. But here's what Ephraim did with what he
was doing with the media. He's now flipped that, and
he's directing and producing movies.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
In Hollywood.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
So it's kind of worked out for him because he
directed a couple of episodes of, I think, was it
on Hulu? I can't remember what streaming services. It was
on Bel Air. It's kind of a take on the
Will Smith show.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Okay. Ephraim's worked on that. Wow.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Wait, he worked on the new, the Bel Air, the
new one?

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Oh, that show was kind of dope, man.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
That was fire. I think Ephraim directed like two or
three episodes.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
Did he really?

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Yes. Oh.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
I know somebody that worked on that crew. I'm going
to have to call out there and see. We can
get him on the show and talk about that.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Yeah. You remember when Hollywood, they had that strike? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
I saw Ephraim on the picket line.

Speaker 6 (18:24):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
He was on the bigger line.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
We're going to have to call him and get him
on the show.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
I didn't know he was doing that now. We'll have
to call him and get him on the show. We'll
have to make that thing work. We had a break.
Broncos country tonight. We'll be back right after this. Behind
the glass.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Zach in the back.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
I don't think we can say that either.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Phrasing. I think there's a lot of text coming in.
A lot of text coming in here. I'm going to
freeze right past that.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
On statues that should be at the stadium and or
underrated players.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Can we get a Raheem Moore statue with a cloud
above the head?

Speaker 3 (18:57):
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
A cloud over his head?

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
What about Nate Hackett in the Star Wars section?

Speaker 3 (19:03):
No, no, that would be a no.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Jeff Driscoll and the regrettable Hall of Fame?

Speaker 3 (19:08):
No, that would be a no too as well. We're
talking about, I mean, positive stuff, man.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
See the negative impact that you're having even on the
people texting in.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
How about underrated players? Number seven, Craig Morton. Broncos never
made the playoffs or even sniffed it until he came.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Okay, but I don't think it's deserved to be a statue,
but okay.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Whole lot of Gary Zimmermans in here.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Said he saved the offense when they got him. Jim
was the truth, boy. You want to play around with Jim?
One person had C.J. Anderson in here. Based on the
cup that run.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
The Super Bowl run.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, the Patriots. Yeah, that kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
He had a.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Few runs that season.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Most memorable moment.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah. Yes.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
And he goes on.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
CJ goes up in like a highlight film that plays
before a game. I'm going to put him on a statue.
Put him in the highlight film that plays.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Before a game. Yes, yes.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Man, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
I was living in Atlanta and Maryland at the time.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
He played, man.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
I used to love watching him play, boy. CJ used
to break a big run every game, it seemed like.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
He's just a clutch player.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, he really was.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
He was just that dude. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Underrated Bob Swenson.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Number 51.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Several of those. Yep.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
We got the preseason game tomorrow night. Minnesota Vikings. What
do you want to see out of a third preseason game?
What do you want to see out of this team
in this third preseason game?

Speaker 6 (20:27):
Man, a few people have asked me this. I've said
the same thing. I want to see somebody stand out.
I want to see, regardless of the position, I want
to see some DBs running down.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
On special teams.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Four or five tackles, the type of hits that make
people get.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Up out of their ceiling. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Who's that?

Speaker 3 (20:49):
I think we call those woo licks.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Where everyone go, woo.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah, man.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Make somebody stand up. Who's most likely to do that
besides Red Murdoch?

Speaker 4 (21:02):
J.O. Skinner has the ability to do that. He hasn't
seen it.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
And now he's got the opportunity. They cut rap again.
You got one game, bro.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
You got one game.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Wait a minute. Yeah, Taylor Rap.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
You got one moment. Mom's spaghetti. But what did Sean
Payne say? We can bring him back.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yes, they're going to bring him.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
He's going to be back.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
He said he pulled up a little tape player.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Baby, come back.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Hey, so somebody's not going to be in that room. Well,
I told Ben, basically, when Taylor Rapp was brought in,
I'm sure some of those guys, the hair on the
back of their neck stood up. When he was released,
they may have celebrated just a little, but to hear
that comment that, hey, he'll be back, so that means

(21:46):
you're on borrowed time. 100%. You are on borrowed time,
and this is a pivotal time for Tyson Anderson, Miles Scott,
and JL Skinner. Like you said, I want to see
those guys go out and compete. And I'm glad you
brought up special teams because last week against Green Bay,
the Broncos special teams unit gave up an explosive on

(22:08):
kick return. And I'm sure Darren Rizzi got an earful
from Coach Payton on that. So this is an opportunity
for these guys to go out there and play. And
you wonder....

Speaker 6 (22:17):
Because you don't have the contact that we had back
in the day. If that's a part of it, you know,
they got to get used to it.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
They, you know, used to what?

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Well, I will say this man specialty. It wasn't just
that game specialty. I mean, kicking and punting has been
all right. The kicker, the punter has been all right,
but man, specialty has not been good this preseason.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Across the board.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, we were good last year. We were.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
But this year, I'm like, I don't know what's going
on right now, but special teams has not been great
this preseason.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
You know, here's what happens sometimes, and I'm not saying
that that's the case now, but everyone has the desire
to make the roster, we know that, be starters. But
there are a lot of guys who are offensive players
that never played a down of special teams in college. Mm-hmm. Right?
So they don't know how to cover. They don't know
how to put themselves in position to make tackles.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
And also, too... Better learn.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
Yes. Better learn today. Don't learn today. Right?

Speaker 3 (23:15):
But I don't know what's actually going on.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
And I'm sure Sean Payton yells, screams, trying to get
the point of emphasis because that is a key part
of the Broncos' success this season, the special teams unit.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Being able to cover.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
So... Don't be surprised if you see guys running down
the field like their hair is literally on fire.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
They better.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
They need to. They have to.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Bro, you got to.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Get somebody's attention.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
I tell young players that, man.

Speaker 6 (23:44):
Look, if you don't stand out, you're not going to
be here.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
We got a whole bunch of guys that just run
down the field and get blocked. Yeah, bro. Make it
so they can't cut you.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Like, man, I got it. We got to keep it, man.

Speaker 6 (23:55):
He keeps showing up.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
You know, yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Make it so they can't cut you.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
But how many of those plays do you think are
going to be available for some of these guys that
we're talking about? Like on the offensive side of the ball,
quarterback throws you a pass.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
You can make a play.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
From a defensive standpoint, being in your position, making a tackle,
but we're talking about a point of making an impact play.
And if you play in a safety position, either you're
going to get a pick or you're coming downhill and
you've got to blow somebody up. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
You've got to blow somebody up.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Do it. Even if that means one of your own teammates.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
That's the same.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Blow your teammate up and get him out of the way.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
You've got to pop. You've got to pop.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Come on, Vince, man.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
No, Steve. No, Steve. Just tell the truth. Friendly player.
If I'm trying to make a tackle because I need
to get that tackle on the stat sheet because I
need to make a team and you're in my way.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Come on, Nick. You don't know a tough young guy. Steve,
if you are in my way, I've done it. They
can get you cut, too.

Speaker 6 (24:53):
Because you tackle the guy that's about to make the
tackle and the guy scores.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Hold on.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
If you tackle.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
Both guys because you're not sure, that counts as a tackle. Okay.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
All right.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Right?

Speaker 3 (25:04):
You got to be careful.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
What were you doing on this? Now you're Monday.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
You get to click.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
All right.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Now, Ferg.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
I'm going to run this one back here.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
What's going on? He was in my way, coach.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
He was in my way.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
I was going to tackle him. Yes.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
I got that ludicrous move.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
Get out of the way. You told me to get
him down. Yes.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
I had to use Joe Snuffy over here to get
him down.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
This is Steve. I've done it before.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
When guys have been in my way, I put my
hand in their back, run them right into the receiver,
and I've made the tackle. Okay.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
All right.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
You got to get out of the way.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. If you're not going...
It was either get down or lay down.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
One of them.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah. Yeah. You got to get out of the way.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
What do you want me to do, Steve? I'm trying
to make the team.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
So when the coach calls in the room and he's
got the clicker, what are you doing right here?

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Coach, I'm doing what you coached me to do.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
I'm bagpiling. I recognize anticipation. I'm getting downhill. Just so happened,
my guy was in the way, and I was trying
to get to the runner.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
You pushed him into him, and then you went and
helped tackle.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
No, that's good.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
Okay, I thought you were saying you would grab him,
tackle him from behind.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
No, no, no, no. I'm going to push him out
of the way.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
No, this dude's jamming his hand up the back of
Alex Singleton's jersey.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
He's a puppet smacking.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Okay, the rules of engagement.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
It's real simple, Steve.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
We know it.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Did you make the tackle at the end of the play?
I don't care how you got it down. Did you
stop his momentum? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
And if I got to use Benjamin Albright to do it,
so be it.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
I'm not going to make much of an impact and
throw anybody down. You got to pick a bigger player
if you're.

Speaker 5 (26:33):
Going to do that.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Bryce Callahan was small to me.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Bryce Callahan took Derrick Henry down by himself.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
After that, that man could do no wrong. I was like,
you know what?

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
I don't care that you're injured half the season. You
made that play, dude.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
You look at Jaquan McMillan. He's not the biggest guy.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
How many tackles has he made?

Speaker 4 (26:53):
Yes. It's a one-two game.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
That dude is a short tackler.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
It don't matter how.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Big the guy is.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
Listen, JL Skinner, Miles Scott, Tyson Anderson. Hey, listen.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
It's a one-two game. You got to want to make
that tackle.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
It just so happens if you push someone out of
the way, I'm not going.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
To be mad at you.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Jake won 5'10, 183. Bryce Callahan, though, was like 5'8.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
He's like 165.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
They listed him at 170.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
But I'm like 165. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
And he never sat away.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
There you go. I was like, there you go. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Give me a team full of those guys. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
You can keep the Raheem Morris. You can keep those guys.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Hey, look, somebody just wanted a statue of him with
the ball sailing over his head.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Come on, man. He had a bad play.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
No, no, Steve, Steve.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Steve, what's the cardinal rule when you play safety?

Speaker 3 (27:46):
What's the cardinal rule? Can't get beat deep. That's right.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Smirking as he plays, replays my Alex Singleton puppet reference there.
It's too easy for me. I mean, that's a quote.
Talk about Ferg shoving his hand up the back. Alex
Singleton is jamming his hand up the back. Alex Singleton.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
I said something earlier where I was, you know, I
wasn't even thinking when I said it.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
And then once you. kind of called me to.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
The med that i realized what i was actually saying
now what you said about me and my hand i
mean i'm.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Talking about using alex singleton to smack somebody down.

Speaker 7 (28:27):
Cut out the word jersey but that's neither here nor
there the possessive jersey clearly.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Deceptive ending on this clip the cgi man.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Can I give you all quotes I didn't say?

Speaker 4 (28:45):
It's everywhere.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
My goodness.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Is there anybody else you really, really want to see
have that game? We talked about Jale Skinner. I mentioned
Red Murdoch. Any of these other guys out there that
you really want to see them have just a big
game here as we get ready to head into the season?

Speaker 6 (28:59):
Well, I think the young tight ends will be playing
quite a bit, man.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
I want to see those guys.

Speaker 6 (29:05):
Continue to develop and do well. I think they're going
to have an opportunity to contribute some this year, whichever
one or ones make it.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Well, see, that's the thing about that room.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
I mean, usually when people say, well, you have more
than one quarterback, you don't have one, which I don't
really subscribe to that for the obvious reasons. But when
you look at the tight ends, like how many of
those dudes you actually need? Because it seems like, though,
you got a room for the eight or nine guys
to try to morph into a pass-catching tight end and
a tight end that's reliable and consistent.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
From a blocking standpoint. How many do you think you
can get?

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Dang.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
I mean, four. I couldn't even get it out. How many?

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Four? Three?

Speaker 3 (29:49):
And maybe you keep one on the practice squad. Yeah, yeah.
But you don't need, like, six. You don't need six.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
What are you doing?

Speaker 4 (29:56):
I mean, because to have six tight ends, and you
know how this works, Steve, when teams are, they're putting
teams together and they're trying to figure out, are we keeping,
how many wide receivers, tight ends, and linemen that we're keeping?
They always pull from the defense. And they pull from
one group in particular, the secondary. They always pull from
the secondary. You don't need that many tight ends. Now,

(30:16):
so let's just say, if the Broncos.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Were to keep four tight ends, who would those four tight.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Ends, meaning three on the active roster, one, on maybe
the practice squad. In your mind, what would that look like?
What would that look like?

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Well, we don't have an Ingram.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
We have an Ingram and Adam Troutman just by virtue
of the money.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Then after that, Joe Lee by virtue of the draft
pick and Nate Adkins by virtue of what he does.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
That would mean that Joe Lee would end up on
the practice squad.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
No, Joe Lee you keep it for. Joe Lee you
keep it.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Dallin Bentley you'd put on the practice squad. Lucas Crowell
you'd put on somebody else's squad.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
What about Adam Prentice?

Speaker 2 (30:53):
The fullback?

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Are you keeping him probably?

Speaker 3 (30:56):
So why keep him and Nate Adkins? They both come
to do the same thing.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
It's two different skill sets. Adkins is a move tight
end and an H-back. Prentice is a fullback, though. Yeah,
but I mean, you know how Sean Payton is, man.
He's going to keep fullback. He's a real fullback. He's
going to keep.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
27 players on offense, and the defense is going to
have to find out how to make it.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Work with 23. And, by the way, you shorthanded, and
I want you guys to make turnovers.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Horse turnovers.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
We shorthanded, coach. I'm just saying.

Speaker 6 (31:26):
But we could have had more last year.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
More tight ends?

Speaker 4 (31:31):
No, no, no.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
More turnovers.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah, we could have had more tight ends, too.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
What happened?

Speaker 3 (31:34):
We're going to get more this year.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
What happened?

Speaker 3 (31:37):
On the turnovers? On the turnovers.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
I mean, they're emphasizing it this offseason. I'll say that.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Well, it was some dropped passes. I dropped a few.
I can't say anything about it. I can't say anything
about it. Listen, I dropped a couple, too. Right?

Speaker 4 (31:50):
And I don't blame the guys who dropped them because
you're coming down here trying.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
To make your play, and all of a sudden, boom,
the ball is right there.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Right?

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Hey, but here, like Steve said, where Steve's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
There's a reason you play defense instead of golf.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Hold on, baby.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Hold on. Hold on, man. I knew it.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Well, why does everybody keep going to that? Oh, you
play defense.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
I could have played receiver. I could have played receiver.
I just wouldn't hit people. I'd have been a great receiver.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Listen, I played receiver at first. Then I got hit
in the chest on the slant route.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
That was it.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
And that was it. I got up and like, no,
I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
When did that happen?

Speaker 3 (32:24):
I think it was about 15.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
15?

Speaker 6 (32:26):
You always talk about that want to, that mentality on defense,
like wanting to make the hit.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
I say play an offense, man.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
You got to want it.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
You got to be able to take it.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
You got to be able to shrug it off.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
And not just shrug it off. You got to talk
some smack to that dude, too, because you know when
they got a clean hit in, and they know it,
and you got to talk to them. You're like, I'll
go back and slap.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Them on the butt.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Here's what I know. It's better to be the hammer
than the nail.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Be the hammer, not the nail. I just.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
slap on the backside be like hey man next time
put some sauce on it act like and then.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
I'm going back hold me up hold me his words.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Not mine i'm just saying steve.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Oh he wouldn't pause that too how much of that.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
He's got recorded now we appreciate it as always we
got in

Speaker 2 (33:15):
A break progress catcher