10-18-24 Hour 3 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Broncos come to town and they soundly beat the
New Orleans Saints by a final score of thirty three
to tenth.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sean Payton makes a triumphant return back to New Orleans.
Thank you for joining us here on Broncos Country tonight.
I'm Pilmlaney filling in for Benjamin Albright here in studio
with Nick Ferguson, and now let's welcome into the program
Parker Gabriel from the Denver Post.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Parker, we already.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Chopped it up earlier today on my podcast, Broncos and Bourbon,
but good to talk to you again.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
How you doing.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
I'm doing great. How are you guys doing? It's great.
You are officially the fill in.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
I see, I like it. I am filling in.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, that's right, h Parker. You were there in New
Orleans around the team. How much did this game mean
to Sean Payton?

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah a lot. I mean he downplayed it, you know,
publicly and all of that. But yeah, I mean action
speak louder than words so much in the run to
the game. But on game day, just before the game,
you know, crashing Drew Brees's Hall of Fame party, you know,
in the early afternoon before going to the stadium, you

(01:14):
could just tell before the game what it meant to him,
and then afterwards, you know, I started acknowledging the emotion
and also you know, getting sort of reflective about his
career in general, and and and frankly, where he's at
now in his career in the second in the sort
of second act with the Broncos. And so it meant

(01:35):
a lot. Players knew it meant a lot. Everybody in
the building knew it meant a lot to him, and
and Denver went out and took care of business.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
All right, Parga, After seven games of seeing bo Nicks,
what is your assessment at this point?

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, I think think like one of the things that's
interesting is that it hasn't gone exactly the way I
think a lot of people thought.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
It would go.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
A lot of people thought, you know, of course, he's
he's a rookie. There's gonna be some ups and downs,
maybe he's going to struggle. But I think that people
thought it would be from the pocket, getting rid of
the ball quick, avoiding sacks that way, you know, being
able to operate maybe a little bit more in rhythm
than they have so far, and that just you know

(02:22):
it materialized in pockets, but it hasn't materialized consistently. And
what we've seen actually is that bow Nix has sort
of at his best at as a playmaker right now
when he's outside the pocket, when he's extending plays, when
he's on the run, when he's using his legs, and
those aren't Like we knew he was a good athlete.
We knew he could run, but that wasn't the way

(02:44):
I think that that people thought it was going to
go out of the gate this year, and so it's
been it's been different. You know, they're they're in the
bottom five across the board in a lot of different
passing categories. But it hasn't been all bad either. You
see some sign you see the flashes. And so if
they can keep harnessing his athleticism and his playmaking ability

(03:07):
in the run game and get more, they're going to
need more in the passing game over the last ten games,
you know, then they're working with a picture that probably
can work even how the rest of the roster is constructed.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, bo Nick's thrown for just one hundred and sixty
four yards against the Saints, but he had those seventy
five yards on the ground. And you know, I'm curious, Parker.
You know, a few weeks ago we saw Bo and
Sean had that Ferris Bueller moment and you know, all
this stuff on the sideline and everything with that relationship.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
How do you think that it works. Like do you
think that.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Bo can go to Sean and say, Hey, I want
to run the ball more, let me get outside of
the pocket, let me do some of these things and
Sean says yes, Or do you think that you know,
it takes more than that to allow Bo to just
kind of run wild like you did last night.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah, I think I think Sean wants him to do
that kind of stuff. You know, like Sean Peyton during
over the course of the you know, the summer when
they were all getting reps, especially Bo Nix and Jared Sidham,
but Dack Wilson too, you know, an OTAs in mini
camp in the first week or so of camp one
of the things that Sean Payton talked about was how

(04:20):
the young quarterback they ask the guy, Hey, what do
you like? What are you most comfortable with? And the
more honest and answer you get from that, and the
more forthright the quarterback is about. Listen, I know I
need to get better at this, but right now I'm
not all that comfortable with this particular thing or this look,
or you know, I just am. It's taken me a

(04:41):
little while longer to the cipher this particular type of
coverage or whatever like. The better the coaches can help
you around that stuff and then eventually through it. So
you want your quarterback to have an honest conversation with
the coaching staff each week about what he likes when
he does of like, what he's most comfortable with. And

(05:02):
then I think, you know, I don't honestly, I don't
think it's Sean's preference. It certainly wasn't last year, and
and it wasn't even really in the conversation with Drew
Brees in New Orleans. I don't think it's his preference
to have all of this second reaction stuff in the
outside of the pocket and all that. And so some
of this is about you know, Champagne and the offensive

(05:24):
staff recognizing and really seeing and understanding you know, what
it is that Bo does well compared to what he
struggles with. And then some of it is Bo communicating, hey, listen,
I really like this. And and then what can you
build off of that so that it's not just Okay,
we'll get you outside the pocket and let you try

(05:45):
to figure it out from there.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Well, this Broncos defense continues to really shine this season
and have been I guess as a.

Speaker 6 (05:54):
Period bright spot.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
But the one thing I love about this defense, Parker like,
week to week, this all always someone different who's flashing,
And last night.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
It was Cody Barton.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
Talk to me about what you saw about his game
that gives you optimism that he can help catapult this
defense to a next level.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Yeah, yeah, I mean he said the same exact thing
last night after the game that you know, if they
played that game again with the same plan the next day,
Nick Like he was like, well, it would probably be
somebody else that had a big night. That's just sort
of how it's gone. And Phil and I were actually
laughing about this this morning. It's like, Cody Barton dropped
an interception, then he had a touchdown taken off the

(06:34):
board by an offside penalty, and then even after both
of those things happening, he still scored a touchdown in
the game later in the game. So it's been it
just was one of those nights for him. Where everything
went right. Obviously it's been that kind of night for
other guys over the course of the first seven games
of the season. And so one of the things that
you see is just you know, anybody who they put

(06:58):
in there for significant stats, Justinster not in for a
couple of games, and and you know he played, he
had a stack on the first defensive staff he played
in three years. And you know, they put Levi Wallace
in last night and he's obviously not passer tan at corner,
but he holds up just fine. You know, they're rotating
guys in. Jordan Jackson made a play on the defensive

(07:20):
line at one point, like they just they've sort of
quietly built this quality depth at all three levels to
the point where they can go out there and you're thinking, okay,
that's the you know, there's Jordan Jackson playing on the
defensive line, Barren Browning's back, it's Cody Barton and Kwan
Alexander inside linebacker, and you know Jamari Mathis and at

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Die and all of these guys, so many different guys
getting a turn, and they just don't. They haven't really
skipped a beat so far, and that that's that speaks
to coaching, and it speaks to the quality of depth
they've built and you know, they're really they're really putting
together an impressive and impressive season.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
There so many guys, you know, getting involved in the
mix there, and there's not just one guy standing out
above everybody else. How have you seen that help this
team really come together and like bond, you know, Like,
where do you feel like this team is right now?
You know, they've won four out of five. Does it
seem like they've got this chemistry where they're just all

(08:20):
really coming together, playing for each other, playing for you know,
Sean Payton going back to New Orleans. Where do you
feel like the chemistry and the bonding is like with
this team right now?

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah, definitely. And you guys know this time I've been around,
I mean you can have a whole locker room like that.
Normally what it is and this is not a bad
thing at all. Normally what it is happens with the
units first, right, Like the defense is super tight, the
offense is super tight. And it's not like there's no
cross pollination. There always is. But I think there's been
a couple of things that you've noticed so far this
year and it's sort of like on each side of

(08:51):
the ball. One is that the defensive guys are just
supremely competent, and that's born of how well they played,
and then it becomes a spiral of you're confident, you
play well, you're more confident, you play better, you know,
so on and so forth. Now, obviously you can be
knocked out of that rhythm, but they really haven't been
so far. I didn't play great early on after Pack
got hurt on Sunday, but other than that, they've been

(09:14):
pretty good. And then offensively, for as up and down
as it's been and for as much as they've you know,
struggled to be a consistent passing offense and all of that,
one thing that you hear a lot of is how
much me Michael Glinch talked about this last night, how
much they believe in Bow and how much they've sort of,
you know, lifted Bow up. And so that's one of

(09:36):
those things where I think they like how he's responded
to adversity and two challenges and to the ups and downs.
And of course, yes, you need the performance piece of
that in big situations than in throwing the football along
the way too. But I think you have a group where,
you know, the offense is confident in bo Nix's girls,

(09:59):
and the defense they're all competent in each other, and
then that helps. Obviously those two groups sort of, you know,
be good together too and play complimentary football. And so
you know, there's been times where that's that complimentary football
hasn't materialized this year, but certainly we've seen it, you know,
more frequently than in recent seasons, and it's part of

(10:21):
the reason why obviously they're they're perhaps a little bit
of a surprising pantry.

Speaker 6 (10:25):
At this point, speaking of complimentary football.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
Tell me this, is this more about Troy Franklin or
about Courtland Sutton.

Speaker 6 (10:33):
What I mean is, though it seemed as though there was.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
A set of effort to get Troy Franklin more involved
with the game plan, but Courtland sudden zero targets. Now
let me back up, he had a target. It was
stress from the scorecard because there was a penalty, but
he ended the game no targets, no catches, no yards.
Is it more about Courtland or more about Troy Franklin.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Yeah, I think maybe a little bit of both. I mean,
I think the I think it's an interesting situation to
watch for Sharon Nick. I also think it's it's it's
a little bit of an anomaly that that Courtland ended
up with zero targets. I mean, and and I say
that in part because he's literally that was the first
time in his career that he's played in an NFL

(11:19):
game and had zero targets. So you know, even the
game he got hurt, obviously he got the one target,
even though that was right away. And so like, it's
it's an anomaly that I'd be surprised if there was
another game where he played the whole way and he
got zero targets. But certainly, I think the flip side
of that coin is that they have tried to get
Troy Franklin more involved, and they've tried to get Devon

(11:40):
Veley more involved the past couple of weeks. And I
think it's worth pointing out that a lot of us,
me included, didn't didn't think Troy Franklin was ready when
the season started, and Frankly, like you know, neither of
the staff he was an active of the first game
of the season. He would show little flashes of that
talent in training camp, but you didn't see it, like

(12:01):
you know, every day or consistently or multiple times a day.
And here we are seven weeks in and and not
only is he playing, but he really does look more
comfortable each week. His roles increased week over week, and
it's getting to a point where I just don't think
it would be all that surprising when we get to
the end of the season if he continues on this track,

(12:23):
I think he'll get to the end of the season
and he'll be, you know, if not the go two
guide and certainly right in that conversation, So you know,
that's that's exciting. You want to see how far he
can he can take that and run with it. And
I think that Sean Payton and and Carry Colbert, the
receivers coach, and the offensive staff know that you're not
actually going to find out how much Troy Franklin has

(12:44):
to give you in his rookie season if you don't
find as many ways as possible to get in the
ball and and to to really test him and see,
you know, how far he can take it.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, I mean you got to You got to give
these guys some chances and just see see what your
work with here Parker, the Broncos one four or five,
here beat a couple of teams that they were supposed
to be with, the Raiders and the Saints got the
Panthers coming up next, and then three really tough tests
in a row here the Ravens, Chiefs, Falcons. I heard

(13:18):
you say that it's sort of a surprising four and three.
Where do you think that this team is right now? Like,
have they turned the corner a little bit?

Speaker 4 (13:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (13:28):
I think so.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
I mean, I mean, you know, it's always winning in
the NFL is hard, right, And I mean I think
that I don't want to say they're all the way there,
because it's definitely still a work in progress. And they're
going to face, you know, defenses that are much healthier
and just much better than New Orleans. They're going to
play offenses that aren't starting rookie quarterbacks. I mean, you

(13:50):
know that back to back road trips against Lamar Jackson
and Patrick Mahomes is gonna look a little bit different
than playing against Specer Rattler. It's just the reality of
the situation obviously, and so like it's gonna get harder,
and I don't I don't know that this is a
nine or ten win team, but they put themselves in
a position where at least they get to go see
if they can do that right, And that's sort of

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they put themselves so far behind the eight ball with
the one in five start last year that even just
getting to eight, you know, it took a lot of energy,
and it took the big winning streak and all of that.
So they put themselves in position to find out. And
I mean for this group, given where the expectations were externally,
that's all you can really ask for. And so you know, like,

(14:32):
are they gonna are they gonna stumble here? I mean,
probably at some point, But I think it's worth pointing
out that since the one in five start, they're eleven
and seven, and like you said, you know, dating back
to to Week seven last year against the Packers, and
so you know, eleven and seven not too bad that
that would be a playoff year. So that's that's what

(14:56):
they are over the last year plus. Obviously they've won
for the last five and at this point they're a
team that they're like a lot of NFL teams. Then
they can win pretty much any week and they can
lose pretty much any week.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, it's an exciting time and I think that we're
only going to learn more and more about where this
team is and you know, live with the ups and
downs of bow Nicks here during his rookie season. So Parker,
thank you so much for hopping on on this Friday night.
Really appreciate your time, and once again, thank you for
coming on the podcast too, So appreciate you. You got

(15:31):
a double dose of Phil today.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
If there's a better Friday.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Parker, thanks so much. Enjoy the rest of your Friday night.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yeah, you got you.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
That's Parker Gabriel from the Denver Post. Yeah. It makes
a good point there.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Eleven and seven in their last eighteen games, So you
know me. You know, it takes time to change the
culture and get things rolling in a different direction. And
you know, Broncs have taken some steps here, take.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
The steps in the right direction.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
You've already laid out of the blueprint based on what
they did last night with the Saints.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
We just need a continuation of that same thing.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
And who knows, if the Broncos keep winning, maybe they'll
be adding some more weapons to this roster. Alvin Kamara.
Maybe that rumors circulating out there. We'll get into that
coming up next here on Broncos Country.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Tonight.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Rattlers hit and we'll be sacked, and that was Nick
Bonito takes the snap.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
He's hit from behind and the ball is free.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
And bouncing around the Broncos habit. Kamara has it and
then gets belted by p J. Locke almost as soon
as he caught the screen throws the ball right side
is knocked away and that is going to be a
three now for the Saints. The good coverage there by
the Broncos. That was Damari Mephis. Rattler will be pulled down,
there's a sack and that was John Franklin. Rattler takes

(17:01):
a shotgun stam, you'll be hit and sacked. That is
Zach Allen Blitz on the way. Rattler's in trouble, pulled
down as he throws, and this ball knocked up into
the air and deflected and picked off by Cody Barton.
Barton backwards into the end zone. That is a Denver touchdown.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Something special about here and Dave say the ball is free.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
I love hearing that. And you know this Broncos defense.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Every week, it's a different guy making a game changing
play back here on Broncos Country tonight, I'm Filmlani filling
in for Benjamin Albright here with Nick Ferguson. Nick, you
made a few plays back in the day.

Speaker 6 (17:39):
Yeah, I made a few plays back in the day.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
But I never was on the end of one of
Dave's calls, because, I mean, one of the better things
to hearing Dave says now Denver right. I've never been
on the opposite end of that. So that's kind of
one of the things that this appoints me about. Mike
never had Dave to actually say that it's the ball.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Is free ever score a touchdown? No?

Speaker 6 (18:06):
No, man in high school, high school, high school. Yes,
in the league.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
No, I've been a part of some almost touchdowns, but.

Speaker 6 (18:20):
We can't. We can't bring it up. We can't bring
it up.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
Oh but no, I've never scored myself.

Speaker 6 (18:25):
That would have been great, Yeah, been nice.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
You would have had a celebration already ready to go.
Or no, I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
Okay, Well, I mean I'm not one of those gay
guys that stands in the mirror and thinking about, oh.

Speaker 6 (18:37):
If I score, I'm gonna do this. No, I never
think about it that.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Way because you don't want to find yourself in the
end zone. You're like awkward. You're like, I don't know
what you know what to do?

Speaker 5 (18:46):
I mean, if you do the best thing you can
do at that point is just had the ball to
the ref and give a high five.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, but it feels like you got to have something. Nowadays,
you got to have a little stuffing ready to go
just in case.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
Well, here's great.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
Here's the thing that's crazy because at one point the
league was penalizing guys during my time for what they
call team coordinated celebrations. Right now, I mean, guys are
doing the gritty they they're doing team related dances, and
I guess it goes back to the COVID year where
no fans were in the stands and you could run

(19:19):
to the monitor and do all this. Yeah, just like grandparents.
The league got so off.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
I think, like back when you're playing like Josinko is
you know te O, these guys were taking the celebration
to the next level. They didn't want all that. Now
it's back to having some fun now.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
I like it. I like seeing guys, you know what.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
Don't get me wrong, I like it being a fan,
but I don't I didn't like it when someone was
celebrating after they scored a touchdown, like I love Randy
Boss celebrations.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
I know one that.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
Was great now I know the league didn't like was
when he scored, he like, uh, pretended to pull down
his pants and moon the crowd in Green Bay.

Speaker 6 (20:03):
That was great.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Joe Horn when he scored, he pulled out a sharpie
from underneath the go post yep and then signed signed
an autograph. But that stuff was great, man. Those are
the things that bring fans to the game, and that's
where when you look at other sports, especially baseball, this
is why I think they lose out on this generation

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because it should be a little given.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yes, yeah, flip the bat, yeah, I like it. And
those guys, I mean in your day, man, it was
like to the next level. I mean they were really
going all out. Yeah, creative, I love it. What do
you think about this bron because defense every week dialing
up something. They're playing with a lot of confidence. It
feels like it feels like you know a lot of guys.

(20:48):
I mean, there's only one first round pick on that
side of the ball and Pat didn't even play against
the Saints. But it doesn't it doesn't seem like it matters.
I mean, they they're playing with that kind of level
of confidence.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
I'm being a phrasing to you this way and the
only way that came to my sunny mind and taking
the page out of the water boy ketchn to saying
though there's no mercy, right, that's what it has to be.

Speaker 6 (21:15):
Yes, that's what it is.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
See it, go get it, and we celebrate on the sideline.
And it's fun seeing the defense kind of go out
and react this way because when you look at the
Broncos defense, this is not a defense that's made up
of first and second rounders. No. I mean, it's like
one of those defenses of a bunch of group of

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guys who.

Speaker 6 (21:38):
Were not highly touted in the league.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
But dvance Joseph continues to find creative ways to use
a personnel that George Peyton is giving him and putting
guys in position.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
And I will say this, even though with Alex Singleton being.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
Out for the year and watching Cody Barden just beat
the Johnny on the spot, quietly, I believe Kwan Alexander once.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
He gets up to speed with this defense.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
I know yesterday they did a lot of rotation with
hate him and Justice schannat.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
You got to start though, yes.

Speaker 6 (22:12):
But you get him up to speed.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
Man, I'm telling you that this this guy can go.
The only issues that Kawan Alexander's had of his career
is just being healthy.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, and he's getting older, yes, yeah, but yeah, how
much does it give you confidence?

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Nick?

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Like with this Broncos defense when Vance he's calling these
blitzes and he's just trusting his guys, you know, like, hey,
this is cover zero, but we're going after it.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
I trust you guys.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
When he's calling and dialing up things like that, what
does that do for your mindset?

Speaker 6 (22:45):
Let's freaking go?

Speaker 5 (22:46):
Yeah, because it reminds me of playing for Larry coryer
uh huh when I played here me Champ John and
Darren Williams, Dominique Foxworth, Karl Paymer Hams Abdullah.

Speaker 6 (22:57):
It reminds me of those days where Larry.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
Coy would dialve that up and we'll be like he
calling that again, let's freaking go. And what it shows
is a lovel of confidence the coach has not only
in his game plan but his personnel to execute what
he's calling. And with a lot of coaches like if
you show me that you have the propensity to go

(23:21):
out and execute it at a high level. Feel we're
gonna call it again and again and again and again. Now,
if you sustain the injury like with PS two out,
it changes things a little. But you expect Damari Matthis
to come in and play well, Levi Wallace to come
in and play well. So for me, I love this
as an expectator of the game, loving defense, loving what

(23:45):
Dance is doing. I love every second of it.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
And they're making not just stops, but they're scoring the
ball themselves, you know, and it's fun to see them
flying around. It seems like this is I guess what
I guess. A big question now is is this sustainable?
Can you continue to live on the edge like this?

Speaker 6 (24:05):
Why not? What? Who was this? Was it Bond job
with the song living on the edge? Yes, live on
the freaking edge.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
How do you expect to ball out and have success
if you don't live on the edge? That is, yeah,
what we do as defensive players, we live on the
razors edge.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
You live and die by the sword.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
So what Vance is doing being former defensive player even
though he played offense to as well.

Speaker 6 (24:36):
I'm not gonna hold that against him.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
But the whole idea is that that's how you have
to play. You have to play with your hair on fire.
And right now that is working for the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
He's pressing all the right buttons right now, and that
defense is really rolling and they've kept the Broncos in
a lot of these games when the offense hasn't quite
been clicking and the defense has been picking up the
whole team there and when it all comes together, you
see something like that thirty three to ten. Now, Nick,
I must ask you, if this Broncos team beats the

(25:10):
Panthers and you feel like, okay, hey, maybe they got
a chance this year, they're going to be in the
mix here, would you explore maybe going out and adding
some pieces to this team, maybe one piece in particular
I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
Well, Phil, I'm glad you asked a question, because last
night there was a welcoming embrace that I happened to
notice after the game, and I noticed Cam Jordan came
in and gave coach the bro hug and pieced out.
But then there was a warm embrace between Alvin Kamara

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and coach Sean Payton that got me to thinking, what
would Alvin Kamara look like in the Broncos uniform, and
I just said, darn good, like somebody that starlines and
I know that right, yes, of course. So look, the
whole thing is about adding weapons to your arsenal. If

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you're able to get a player like that, great. What happened,
I don't know, but we can always wish. Now I
tossed this out to you. I thought about this early
in the week. I know, trade deadline is not into
November fifth, and I know when you talk about offense
you need dynamic players. Well, I was thinking about there's

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a guy in Seattle by the name of Leviiscus Channel
that I said, Well, he's a former Buff and he
plays wide receiver.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
You can use him on special teams.

Speaker 5 (26:41):
I mean, we saw Marvin mahams A line up in
the backfield. Why not do the same thing with Leviska.
And it's not going to cost you that much to
do so, so I'm just tossing.

Speaker 6 (26:53):
It out there.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I mean, I guess it just really to me, it
depends on whether this Broncos team thinks.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
That they are.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
If they think that they can, you know, make a
run here and put get in, then sure, why not.
Otherwise you know, it feels like this year while they're winning,
is about like developing guys like Troy Franklin, getting them
the ball, let him bow do its thing. And if
you win, you know, and you get in along the way,
that's just like a cherry on top. But really it's

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about developing and growing and growing. But if you have
an opportunity to get a guy like Camara, I mean
it feels like the Saints maybe are in this position
where they could also get into a fire sales situation
that you know, it's been a struggle ever since their.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Car got hurt.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
More injuries piling up there and the losses are piled up,
and it feels like Kamara is a little bit frustrated,
you know after the game, you know, he said some
stuff about the fans leaving and how he understood because
you know they weren't, you know, performing so well, and
you're right that embraced with Sean Payton did go on,
you know, And if you're a guy like Kamara, you're like, hey,

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a guy like Sean knows how to use me.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
You know.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
I think that sometimes this player and coach relationship, if
you find a guy who knows how to get the
most out of you, you want more of that. It's natural,
I think, and there might be just enough smoke there
to think that there's something going on. But to me,
the other problem is financially. I think that Kamara is

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set to make like twenty five million next year. So
you're like, how long of a term with thing.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Would this be? But it's intriguing for sure.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Well, it is an intriguing thought. And you're right, he
is said to make like, you know, twenty two million
or something like that. And obviously he's a running back.
Some so individual feelings that when running backs reach a
certain age and he's passed twenty seven and usually that's
when they get that you're falling off the map. But
if you have a coach that knows you and knows

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how to implement you into the offense, it can change.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
But it is.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
Definitely intriguing to think about the concept. But this is
why I think that a guy like the viscus Chnault
would be different because you got a younger guy, he's
very versatile, He's not going to cost you that much
as far as annual salary, and he's he wouldn't cause
us that much If the Broncos wire to look to

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trade for a guy like that, because, once again, coming
off the Panthers game, the Broncos will have to assess
where they are now. If they think that they are
a playoff team, but a playoff team that can go deep,
then you start making moves where you're looking to get
veteran players. This is the difference you start to get

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veteran pas. So I'm thinking, for me, it's like what
the Broncos should do. Go out and get players that
you can build with that are sustainable for the next
two or three years, but who can still add value
in production this year. Once again, this is why throughout
le viscous Chanault and obviously you know, some fans are saying, well,

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the Broncos need to tight end. They definitely need to
tight end, and a tight end that's productive. So I
know a lot of fans were kind of pushing for
the Broncos to trade Ford Falcons Kyle Pitts.

Speaker 6 (30:20):
Who will? Who will?

Speaker 5 (30:21):
The Broncos fans would get a chance to see here
in you know, maybe three weeks. But I think that's
kind of the direction that I would go if I'm
putting this team together.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
It doesn't feel like this team's quite there yet to
add a guy like Kamara, but I do think that
the intrigue is certainly heightened because of his relationship with Sean.
The thing about Kamara's age, it's interesting because he's so
much of a pass catcher too, not just a running back,
so it doesn't feel like he takes those huge hits.

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Channel plays obviously a very physical style of ball, so it's.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Interesting to think about.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Just don't feel like this Broncos team's quite there unless
you feel like they could. I mean, if this team
could make the playoffs, how exciting that would be. You
almost are like, maybe it's worth just doing it, you know,
for the short term.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
But I don't know, it feels like maybe a straight you.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
Know, you don't want to do it for the short term.
To me, always have to be well long term prospects.
Long term look, and this team doesn't have the skilled
players they need to truly compete with the Baltimore's in
the Kansas City's, and I'm talking about compete with them,
not one game, but the one or two games you're

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gonna play and then in the playoffs. So they're still
falling shorts from a skill standpoint, But that doesn't necessarily
mean that they can't start that process. Yeah, of doing that,
so that that part is very vibe and very important,
you know.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
I think that giving up draft assets too would be
hard to swallow, especially after the last several years here
with the Broncos making moves, you know, and not having
those draft picks. So, and the other thing with Sean
is I think that he feels like he can find
talent at the skill position and coach them up. I
feel like that he feels like that that's sort of
a part of his arsenal.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Well.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
I know every coach feels that way.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
But if there's another player that's on another team that
you feel as though you can plug and play and
adds a different element to your office and your scheme ideas,
like why not explore that?

Speaker 6 (32:22):
Like that's why I threw out.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
Leviski because I mean, it's not gonna cost you.

Speaker 6 (32:25):
That much to get it.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Exciting, especially with the Broncos again that big win over
the Saints thirty three to ten. They're now one four
out of five, so definitely an exciting time in Broncos Country.
Stay tuned, you're listening to Broncos Country tonight.