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Yeah. The gentleman from the Food Bank of Rocks, he's
picking up another load as we as we speak. Have
been out here a few times to keep picking up
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Yeah, we were reliving that a minute ago, the Arctic.
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Tundra that was out here like three or four years ago,
whatever it was. But now it's not too bad out
here right now. Of course, n I've got these heaters going,
so it's it's nice speaking of being on a heater.
Bone Nicks keeps adding to the hardware cases he is
offensive Player of the Week, keeps adding to the trophy
case a little bit there After his big time performance
against the Atlanta Falcons, a lot of questions and people
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keep asking about when does he join the Rookie of
the Year to bey with with Jane Daniels all that
kind of stuff, And I mean, the odds still have him.
I think number two right now, as far as that
kind of stuff goes, Daniel is still the prohibitied favor
of the I think minus three hundred when I looked today,
but my bonics is plus five hundred. Well, Jame's minus
three hud No, I know I'm saying he's most plus
five hundred, yeah, right, second, right, But there's a pretty
(02:10):
big gap between them to the betters. Yeah, Now, that
doesn't necessarily mean that there'll be a big gap when
I'll said and done.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
One of the.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Interesting things if you're a Boon Knicks for Rookie of
the Year hopeful, is how Clif Kingsbury offenses have faded
in the back half of seasons before.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
So kind of something to kind of keep your eye on.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
There.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Are you picking up a plus five hundred bo Nicks ticket?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You already already have what you already believed you already
had a ticket, right right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I well, I wouldn't say that I thought about him
as a Rookie of the Year offensive Rookie of the
Year really until the last month that I thought was
a possibility, and part of that was sort of coinciding
with Jaydon Daniels play kind of taking a bit of
a dip, and you know, it doesn't necessarily have to
be one guy struggles so that the other guy succeeds.
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But I would say that that Bonicks has some ground
to make up and it certainly helps the cause, right,
I mean, that's that's the thing is, like, it's it's
all about recency, So we don't have to necessarily discount
what Jade Daniels is up to this point, and I
think he'll continue to have a really good season. But
the fact is, I mean, you got nineteen total touchdowns
for Bownicks. C J. Stroud had twenty six last year.
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So he's absolutely in range to surpass c J. Stroud,
who had what was considered the one of the most
remarkable rookie seasons in all of the history of football. Now,
maybe he doesn't reach the same yardage as far as
passing yardage, but he's adding some more with his legs
and again we'll see if they if they make the postseason,
I think he's absolutely in that conversation regardless of what
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happens with Jade Daniels. But I think that he's gonna
need Jayden in the offense for the Washington Commanders to
dip a little bit in the process while bo Nicks
sort of continues on this trajectory, are you buying.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
That he's congenuining on the trajectory or that as we
look at the schedule and what we considered was going
to be the easier, at least defensively portion of the schedule,
where they got the you know, the Panthers and the Falcons,
the Ravens whose defense is bad this year, and then
you get to the Chiefs, were a good defense he
kept against that. Are you considering that that now as
we move into better defenses? I mean, the Colts and
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Browns aren't exactly a gret football teams, but their defense has
been okay this year, too good at times. Are you
buying that he continues on their trajectory or do you
see even Bo maybe taking a step backwards as we
get into a little bit tougher down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I mean, again, progress isn't always linear, So it's one
of those deals like he may have a game or
two that he stumbles in here. You certainly hope not,
because honestly, their paths to the postseason, even though they're
in control of their own destiny, it's stills on a
relative razor's edge. There are still teams that are buying.
There's still teams like the Indianapolis Colts that are right
on their heels and they're not gonna go away. The
Miami Dolphins believe that they they're in this conversation. Angles
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do too, and the Bengals are not out of it
either officially when they get to eight losses.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And trying to breathe life into Grant, I know, I
always feel so bad. I feel so bad because they're
playing the Steelers next and I'm like, well, you probably
can lose that one.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
But then the schedule gets nice. Yeah, it's it's tough
because every time, like I'm talking of a positive Broncos
playoff conversation, and I always has to include like, but
we got to continue to hope the Bengals lose because
if the Bengals are in it, and that second last
week when these two teams play, that could be a
very dangerous game for the Broncos. But no, I am believing.
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I am believing that the Broncos are going to continue
on this trajectory, and you can only play the teams
in front of you. So for his offensive Rookie of
the Year candidacy, people will point to, like you often do, Wow,
this was a weaker defense and this really doesn't mean
all that much to me. Well, you know what, you
play the teams that are in front of you. We
have no idea whose team and where they're going to
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be at. You know, we looked at the schedule back
in May. The Cleveland Browns game, for example, looked a
little more daunting than it does now. Right they're two
win team. They're obviously heading towards an offseason where there's
going to be some major changes for Cleveland. The Raiders
were a team that you always tend to play the
Broncos tough, but they're two win team.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
They're a bad team right now.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Indianapolis, we thought they would be probably a playoff team,
and now they're on the cusp of it. But they've
gone back and forth with the quarterback situation. They're kind
of all over the map. I'm just saying, like what
we think on paper about teams back in May, or
even before the season starts. Tends to change as it
goes through and a lot of Falcons were one of
those teams that will probably win that division in part
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because the division is a very soft division, right, but
also because you know, they are the best of the
bad bunch. But that doesn't make them a bad team.
It just means that they're a flawed team, at least
in my perspective.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, five six, six nine zeros text line, you guys
want to get involved the conversation, but all right, Edwards
live out here at the King Soopers at Colorado. You know,
you guys want to come on by and say hi
in person as well. Some other interesting news is some
hitting the hitting the highlights here Colorado. The cu Buffs
basically as a team committed to the East West Shrine
Game today.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I don't know if you saw that.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Shudorgh Sanders and basically the Sea Buffs is a team
almost committed.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
To the Shrine Game. The six players is considered sort
of the.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Second tier like the Senior Bowl has been the top
tier game, you know for people that are going to
the draft, and that is a fascinating I will say,
course correction or role reversal. But you know, for a
top tier player like Shad or Sanders and then basically
the team to commit to the Shrine game certainly says something.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Now there is a connection there.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Between Shador obviously all those Dallas connections down there, and
the Shrine game is now played at Arlington Stadium there.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
But that to me, that one leapt off the page.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
To me is maybe we're seeing something of a reversal
in the you know, what is the premiere Draft picks game?
Or is Shador not as highly thought of do you think?
Or is it just a you know, do you feel
like he's doing them a solid?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
But he threw a lot out there, I'll say, and
by the way, you're getting killed here are already on
the text line on your own show, which is hilarious.
But I will say that my first thought when I
saw that was, well, it's in Dallas. Well that makes sense, right?
He said yes to this, And as Shador goes, so
does a lot of the players. Again, there's six total
buffs that commit to going to the East West Shrine Game,
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and then there may be something to that. Maybe we're
seeing a little bit of a shift. I know that
we have some friends there with the East West Shrine
Game with Derek Galco and what they're trying to do
down there, and they've been trying to build this thing up, right,
they've been trying to make this thing a bigger deal
than it has historically been. Right, it's used to used
to be in Saint Petersburg down there in Florida. It
was absolutely the afterthought. It was the we'll take whatever's
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left over the Senior Bowl can't take, including underclassmen. And
now they're they're starting to get a little bit more
run right, and this will mean I guess that these
guys will not be going to the Senior bol because
they're ostensibly at the same time. I don't know if they're.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, there's some overlap. I don't know if there's an
exclusivity agreement or not. I reached out to Derek Galco
is the director of the Shrine Game, to kind of
find some of the stuff out, but he had got
back to me at the time we're broadcasting here. I
don't know if there's an exclusivity agreement. There hasn't previously
been one, Okay, but now with sort of the battle
over this and some of these bowls, offering money to
some of these players some of their thing.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
There may be an exclusivity agreement there.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I just thought it was interesting that to see you
as a team sort of decided to do that one
and then to pick that one instead of the other one.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I thought that was fascinating.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Maybe that's an inside baseball thing a little bit as
far as the you know, the draft process or whatever,
but that certainly was fascinating to me.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Well, but again, I saw it Dallas. Like you said,
you said, the headline for me, it's Dallas. Yeah, and
that's that's probably what that is.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
But you know, like I said, I've reached out there Galcohol.
I'll talk to him sometime probably tomorrow and figure out,
you know, get the behind the scenes on that.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
But that is I thought that was fascinating.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Hat like six guys.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
But the one day they're gonna be going there, there's
one name missing from that, isn't there. Well, yeah, that
one hasn't been decided yet.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But I'm sure that, you know, I'm sure that they'll
figure that out in terms of what it is that
he's gonna do and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Well, I'm just it's it's notable because Lejonte Western Shepherd.
Like those guys all all were in.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
He's not a graduated senior though, is here He's not
a graduated junior or junior.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
On Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, he's a junior, but he's not a gradual junior.
Graduated junior, And there are rules for the Senior Bowl.
It used to be anyway they take some juniors, but
you had to. But there is a rules for the
Shrine Game, right, so he.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Could have committed.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You know, there may be well, we'll figure that out
as it moves along, but yes, that is the one name.
The other name that was interesting was Shiloh, who was
not probably going to go to the Senior Bowl either way.
He is going to the Shrine Game. So you kind
of wonder if there's a deal behind the scenes. Hey,
I'll come there if you bring my brother, you know,
that sort of skin Dallas and again, but shador Is
is the headline, right, and that is the headline defense
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to anybody else. That's going to be the highest drafted
quarterback out of the East West Shrine Games since probably
the eighties.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
That's exactly right. So that right there is attention grabbing everybody.
Everybody else is good player. Those are really good players.
I think.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I think, well, John Western actually make me a heck
of a player at the pro. The other kid, the
other safety, is he just going to play in the
pro level? There's it's Cus, that's Shiloh. The other I
kid think his name now.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, Cameron Craig. Yes. There's a video of Justin Simmons
firing up the players for the Falcons before the game
and sort of took a little bit of a shot
and he said, I you know so, and I can't
repeat because it was some bad words, some choice words. No,
but he said, uh, you know, more or less, I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Care if they're playing in front of their their home
fans bleep them. And some Broncos fans got a little
sideways on that, especially because Justin has seen a such
a positive guy. I don't really take too much into
that because honestly, it's it's in the moment he's trying
to get his guys fired up.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
They're trying to go out there and win a game.
He even said like, hey, we want to play in
the playoffs and this is just a game in front
of us. We got to find a way to win this.
But I think that was the fact that he said that,
you know, they're playing in front of their home fans,
bleep them. He's talking about the players, he's not talking
about the fans. Yeah, yes, but it's still like you know,
saying I'm a Bronco for life and then and then
doing stuff in that game.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
He's not though. I mean, he's under contract with the
Atlanta falconuse he's playing the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I understand that if you can be for.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
The you know, for the between the first and fourth quarter,
you could be that guy. I mean, if I'm sure,
Ferg we're here, he'd say the same thing. Man. It's
just like when when you're when the when the clock starts,
when the opening kick happens, like it, forget all the friendships.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
We're to let him. He's we can be friends afterwards,
you know. And Steve we talked about that a.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Couple of weeks ago, you know, and he was like, yeah,
he's a guy with the college with or whatever. He
absolutely blasted the mess out of me from the you know,
didn't apologize for it for like a decade, but you know,
it's it's, yeah, what's your between the lines. It's a
little bit different I don't have any problems with Justin
Simmons doing all that kind of stuff. We all know
who Justin is, We know who he is in the community.
We know he considers Denver home, and we know he
would be here and it wasn't his choice to move on,
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so we know he'd be here in Denver still if
the opportunity existed for him. So I don't I definitely
don't hold that against.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Him, by the way, speaking of safety. By the way,
speaking of safeties, e Brandon Jones did get a limited
practice in today. Ben Powers was the only player that
was not able to practice, but again, hopefully that he'll
he'll be all right.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
The Raiders, by the way, just absolutely banged up. Yeah.
I think it's worse and worse for them as the
as the season wears along. I think Antonio Pierce is
probably gonna be out. They'll want it done there, you think.
So Yeah, with the Raiders, I can't see Tom Brady's
sticking with that.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You know, and he does.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I mean for the the percentage of ownership he actually has,
he has a lot of sway in Mark Davis's year,
I'll say that.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
A couple of text year on the Kawai Commas Spirit
health text line. Bonnicks wins AFC Player of the Week,
FedEx Air and ground yep, and two time Offensive Rookie
of the Week. All Bright's still making excuses about him
playing weaker opponents. Blanket that yeah, wet blanket all Bright?
Could we rewind the tape to whenever I did that?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Well, I mean you were sort of I asked you
the question if you thought he was going to continue
on this trajectory where he played tougher defenses than those quays.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
You sort of slipped in, You're gonna be playing weaker
defenses coming up. No, you're playing stronger defenses. It's sort
of like the framing of it was in a way
of like, well, Bonicks should be playing better, but you
know part said at.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
All, it's literally not with any Are you awake during
that segment?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Are you pulling a knee? I'm telling you what the
Texter and everybody in the city, the Texters being wrong
on this.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I said, are you do you think that Bonix's trajectory
continues when he plays tougher defenses coming up? I mean,
the Colts aren't a good team, but their defense is decent.
Browns aren't a good team, but their defense is decent. Okay,
you remember that quote, not how that's not how you
frame that, but literally how I said it. It's wrong
with people. Man, I'm gonna break the tape bag whatever.
I'm gonna grant to start playing segments back in the
next segment.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I don't think that's going to help you.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I think it will. You say that, I'll drive them
all off. I don't even care.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Sex line. If you guys want to lie about more stuff,
I say, I love how you have this, this perception
that that people have this all wrong about you.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
That's that's not a perception. What it is.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Okay, there it is.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I mean, yeah, everybody else titles live whatever alternate reality
they want to.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Everybody else has it wrong, but you have it right. Correct.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Narcissist says, what always? That works on a couple levels.
Oh my goodness, Jamal Murray's he living up to the
contracts he did yesterday finally he put he put the
team on his back.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
They don't win that game without him. Yeah, he was
the closer, if you will. He was making some babe
with Cairo Sedgwick. Yeah, he was hereos Seduc Nice work there,
I love that you get that reference. That's good. That's good.
You know you were a sports program. You could have
gone like Mario Vera.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
You get the higher premise of me is trying to
get Shannon to laugh behind you, But you went like
T and T is the closer?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, okay's Kevin Bacon's wife?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Kuris Cedric? You need from Phenomena?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I think that's the right one. Actually, isn't any Cedric?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Was it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
She was the closer?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
No, I know that, but it was who's Kevin Bacon's wife?
I thought there was Ala mcpeil. No, let's here Cedric
am I okay, that's Harrison Ford's wife?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Is that Alan McBeal?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I think?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
So? Okay, these are the stuff people tune in for.
Uh javal May Yeah, he he has overall not been
the guy so far. But I don't know if we
need him to be the guy today more so than
we need him to be the guy in April. See,
I felt like we need to be the guy while
was out, he's Robin.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
When Yoki comes back, there's not two Batman, there's one Batman.
I think the one thing that this stretch with yok out,
it showed me is that Daria saraz needs more minutes.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
There's a reason he's not playing for some reason. I mean,
I don't know what it is. I don't know what
it is.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
But he is up there. He's played great.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
No he has not. No, he has not not even
last night, Well.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Last night was that bicker. He's play He's played pretty well.
And I feel like you can you can spell Jokic
a little bit more with Sarach out there, Man, you're
the word pretty is doing a lot of heavy lifting
for you.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I don't know what you're talking about. With Darius Sarich,
he has been a disappointment. But but but either way,
he was brought in here to be better than he has.
And there was a time when Nikole Yoakic was playing,
they weren't even they weren't even bringing him in.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
He's here to give Jokic eight minutes a game, eight
minutes of you know, I know.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
They weren't even doing that, like just like a week ago.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
What does Michael Malone even know about basketball?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah right, I just love the irony. I ultimately love
the irony because Michael Bullhon only wants to play Vets
and here he they brought in a vets yesterday was
like his worst.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Game, but he's I mean, he wouldn't play in that
bad can go ahead. I'm looking your box scor scout
for me. No, I'm just saying he had ten points,
ten boards.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
That the game was four. That's what That's what you
get on that's what you want in plus minus.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I don't really know what that artificial number fake analytics nerd.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Uh is Ben's hate for Boenicks and Sean Payton softening
was that praise.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I've never had any hatred. That's the thing you got
to you guys were great, I hate or whatever coming in.
I'm just telling people that listen to your show.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I'm just telling you hear the words coming out of
your mouth.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
What did I say about the Atlanta Falcons victory? What
was the first thing I said when the game was
over on Twitter?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Well, I can tell you what said complete, But you
said one of the first things you said on the
air was that defense is weak and terrible.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
It's terrible, it's embarrassing with that. So did exactly what
he's supposed to gainst the bad defense.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Beat up on them. We gotta have a break. Broncos
Country Night Back after this, I'm busiting it on Bri
and I'm better than you. We've got the Raiders we.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Coming up, and I was talking with Steve about this yesterday.
First of all, it doesn't feel like Raiders Week has
the same sauce that used to have when Shanahan was here.
You know, he had the bitterness from Mike getting shifted
to a short shrifted four hundred thousand dollars by Al Davis,
which would be one point two million in today's money.
But it just doesn't feel like that it has the
same I don't know, kind of kind of appeal to
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it or kind of hatred or vehemence to it that
it used to have. But part of that is because
I think neither team has been good enough to really
be able to concentrate on a rivalry with each other,
just because you know, they haven't been good enough to
deal with that. But the Broncos are starting to get
push that they snapped the streak against the Raiders. They
hadn't They had previously beat the Raiders since Sean Gruden
was head coaching up until earlier this year. They snapped
that streak, But it doesn't feel like it has the same.
(18:41):
Thing is there any part of this this game that
scares you at all, any matchup that scares you at all.
I mean, I see Bowers out there, but beyond that,
there's there's nothing about this game. I'm not I'm looking
at this thing and I'm like, we're gonna blow them out.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, I mean it's a division game. There's they haven't
actually won at Las Vegas yet, so there's a little
bit of that. So I I don't know. I'd say
if the Broncos are playing their game, they should handle business,
but there's always the possibility. Like you said, brock Bowers,
I mean, the Raiders had the Broncos on the ropes
early in that game. Here An did nothing. Yeah, they're
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up to go seventeen nothing. I mean it was or
like seventeen three. I think it would have been the score,
but it was. It was right there and Gardner minshew.
I think he overthrew brock Bauer something to that effect,
and then I ended up being the pick six from
passer Tan and the Broncos really never looked back from there.
But I mean, up to that moment, it felt as
though the Broncos came out flat, so it kind of
be something along those lines brock Bauers is legitimate and honestly,
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I mean, you think about the Rookie of the Year conversation,
brock Bowers is probably putting himself in that conversation.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
As we continue, I think it would be the top
non non quarterback in that in that conversation for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I think the top defender. You'd have to kind of
look at Jared Verse.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I was phenomenal, Yeah, which was the guy you know
I wanted here, But you know it was a good custolation.
I've just tried to get their eye rolls at a
Ryan right now. No, but I did want jer Ers
At the time. I was like, Okay, well, if we're
going to do the and instead are we are we
waiting on the quarterback or what are we doing here?
And if we could have gotten Verse and then the
Knicks later, that was kind of, you know, kind of
something I advocated for.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
But anyway, Pinesight now, but I agree with you in
the sense that it doesn't have the same sizzle as
it once did. But I think part of that is
because the teams haven't been all that good.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Well again, they haven't been good enough for it to
be for the rivalry to even matter.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, at this point, back in those days, both teams
had a claim and would continue to fight for the division.
Right now, it's the Chiefs Division and everybody else is
sort of infighting in between. And then hearing the Raiders
are with two wins so far, and like you said,
probably headed to a place where they're gonna be firing coaches.
And they got obviously going a completely different direction to quarterback.
He got Tom Brady in the building now, so he's
(20:44):
gonna probably lean on the scale a little bit with
some direction. But I mean, that's what makes it this
sort of tough. It's like there have been years when
the Raiders are actually pretty good, but the Broncos weren't
very good, and this is one of those years when
Broncos are actually pretty good, but the Raiders are not
very good at all.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Well. Yeah, and it's interesting because you had sort of
this triumvirate back in the nineties and two thousands of
Devil's Triangle, if you will, of everybody called it that everyone, Yeah,
Shannon's got I got you finally, but you did, and
it was bad blood. You had Kansas City, you had Denver,
and you had the Raiders and anytime any combination of
those thirty teams played each other, it was bad blood.
It was gonna be you know, it's gonna be a
(21:19):
hard hitting game. There's gonna be animosity there. Everybody got
up for those weeks, and it just doesn't feel the
same anymore. And you know, I don't know, that just
doesn't feel like there's animosity there when you play the
Raiders anywhere either, it doesn't. I mean, maybe there is
with the Kansas City thing, and I think maybe that
gut punch loss kind of injects some juice back into
that for the Broncos fans, but it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It didn't feel the same.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I was talking with Steve about that, and he's like,
you know, I don't know. If it's a modern generation,
different generation of players. The Shanahan component of that is
no longer there. But Steve was telling me that Mike
never said that to the players anyway, He never put
that out there and used that as a rallying cry
with the players ever when he was there.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Interesting, I didn't know that. I always thought that he did,
or I thought maybe it was just an understood thing.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
From what I understand from what I have heard, is
that Mike may have told other coaches, who in turn told.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Them, but he never did it directly. I mean, that's
that's fine. I mean, you know, I think oftentimes as
a coach you use all sorts of motivating factors and
maybe inserting yourself into the equation directly like that. But
this is Broncos Country today. Narcissism countries to I as
long as you understand, uh, the subtext of the show.
(22:24):
But but yeah, i'd say for for Mike Shanahan, yeah,
that that was always an understood thing. It was an
undertood thing for the fan base, was understood. It's seemingly
for the players, they would talk about it often. But
to hear the Mike never said that directly actually kind
of lines up. I mean, in the end, if everybody
knows that you really have to bring it up, do
you even have to make a point to bring it up.
If it's just an understood, Hey, we're going to do
(22:44):
this and we're going to use this rallying cry, it
actually probably has more impact by the fact that Mike's
too proud to even bring this up to us. But
we already know we got kind of that, we got coach.
But there isn't a rallying cry in this other than
it's division. It's an important game, and for the Broncos,
it's a necessary game. You've got to keep pace ahead
of these other teams. Now, the Colts are gotta they
got a tough game this week, right, I don't I
(23:05):
don't think they're gonna beat Detroit, but that that doesn't
mean I mean they're playing homes up. Plus you play
the Colts later. So it's right, give yourself a little
bit of buffer because there isn't any buffer right now,
not really. Uh, Cincinnati's on a by that helps a
little bit. I can see. Here are the stretches.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You're the stretch of the schedule for the Denver Broncos.
Now where you got to take their business. You gotta
beat the teams you're supposed to beat.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
The Raiders, the Colts, the Browns.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
These are teams you're supposed to beat, and you got
to go in and get there because the last part
of that schedule has the.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Potential to be brutal. Yeah, Miami's playing the Patriots, so
that's probably a game at home. So that's probably the
game that they're gonna end up getting. And then they'll
be five and six. At that point, they're right, They're
right there. So the last thing you want to do
is fall to six and six. And and again, I
do think you mentioned the Chiefs loss that actually might
have been in hindsight, we'll see when the season ends,
(23:52):
a quote unquote good loss. And I and I say
that knowing that it sounds kind of cringe, but understanding
that it really got the team focused on the details
and then the small things matter. You can't take it
quite literally anything for granted that by way taking for
granted podcast, you should check that out.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Onload an episode.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, oh wow, well I don't know about that, but
but but go back and listen to the archives. Phenomenal,
right stuff. But that's what I'm saying, Like it's one
of those I don't think you want to lose to
the Chiefs, especially in a gut wrenching way. But the
way that this team responded the very next week playing Atlanta,
you saw that that the details mattered, and they showed
up and they played the details in all three phases.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Well, it was the thing I wondered if they would
use that as a rallying cry. I harkened back to
the the nineties teams using the Jacksonville Jaguar loss as
a rallying cry for the next year. I wondered if
they could use that Kansas City is a rallying cry
for this year and look like we can you know,
if we're if we're if we take care of all
the things we can take care of and control those things. Uh,
then you know, we had the opportunity be in all
these games, and I thought if they were going to lose,
(24:54):
then then that was the way to do it. And
something that was sort of, you know, out of left field,
sort of a you know, a make break scenario in
the last player of the game because you've just gotten
blown out by Baltimore. You know, you just got boat
raced by them, and we just got through saying, look,
this team hasn't arrived, they don't belong.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
And then if you come back and.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
You prove that you do by you know, by by
hanging with a Kansas City team.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
In Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
So I think that there's you know, there's certainly something
to be said for that. Is there anything we're overlooking
about this matchup? Is there anything you know, backs against
the Wall? Antonio Pierce coaching first job is there anything
we're overlooking here?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
It's hard to say. I mean, again, you mentioned Max
Crosby earlier. He can always wreck games. And even this
last week against Tootongue Bylowa and the Miami Dolphins, it
wasn't the prettiest game from them. The Raiders defense did
get to Tua at times, but you really never felt
like Miami was not gonna lose, not gonna win that game.
And once again, you know, the Raiders offense is fascinating
(25:48):
because I think ja Cobe Myers is actually pretty good,
biggest player, and I think, you know, Trey Tucker's a
little bit underutilized. We talked about Brock Bowers. I mean,
he's gonna be a Pro Bowl this year as a rookie,
maybe even an All Pro Bokers.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
They're Marvin Mims right and and and there are moments
where you're like, man, why does this guy get the Baltimore?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And then you see them go through large spells where
they don't they don't even look his way, and I'm like, Okay,
I don't I don't really get this doing here, But
I would say that they did look improved with uh
with God who the Scottie who Scott turn Scott Turner,
thank you north Turst boy. Yeah, Scott Scott Turner. I
thought had them playing better. But it's Gardner Minshew Man.
(26:25):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I just still don't see a starting Caliper quarterback there.
Oh yeah, although Gardner does have experience with the magic
in Denver before the Broncos when we talked about that
a little bit and looked a little good at early
You listen to Broncos country tonight right here on koa bit,
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Speaker 1 (26:42):
We've got an oil painting of him up in the studio.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Just like Luke Wilson from that that movie The Paying
was the Gift Ben that's a totally different movie.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
But we can do that painting too. It's it's basically
the same though, because good Bond the same.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Person and yeah yeah, and you got one of the
Wilson brothers and they're dead matter which one. That's they're
the same guy, Owen, That's it's all the same.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Been talking a little bit about Raiders week and uh,
it doesn't feel like it has the same juice that
has always the five six six nine zero you guys
can weigh in on that, uh as well.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
You think Nick Benito could win Defensive Player of the Year.
I mean, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe he's
got to keep the sack pace going. He's only two
and a half behind Trey Hendrickson right now.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, but I was gotta keep it going because Trey
will he's the only guy on that Cincinnati defense right now.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
That's worth it, solf I.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You know, Nick was a guy I thought would would
really break out, you know, kind of last year, and
he's sort of having that this year more so than last.
We last year. He could have announced himself to Broncos
fans last year, but he's anounced himself to the NFL
this year. And it's not just you know, he's two
and a half back. That's the number of sacks that
got wiped off the board by penalty, I know, last game.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
He's he is having a monster year and him and
Coop have really kind of emerged and become the you know,
the go to one two punch and then you're having
that Jonah Ellis rotation in there and Ellis getting on
the board. In the last game, I think was was
good as well. There are a lot of people that
when we move Barreon Brown and we only got a
six for him and all that, and I think you
kind of see why they saw what they what they
envisioned here. They knew they weren't gonna pay him. They're
(28:08):
only paying one of these guys, and so you know,
Coop Cooper earned it. You're in the contract and him
and Benito have been have been outstanding. Nickas is really benefited,
I think for having Zach Allen agree out there as well.
And that's that's another thing that that fascinates me, because
Zach Allen's gonna do it for another contract here fairly soon.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
And what are you gonna do about that? You know,
because you're gonna have to pay him. There's a good
question today to Sean Payton, and maybe we'll play it.
I don't. I had to go find it, but it
was it was basically, do you think some of the
sack production is as a direct result of the Broncos
being better against the run this year? And it you know,
we talk about the chicken rag stuff all the time
that this is that's a great point, right And he
(28:45):
and Sean said, I do think it is because if
there are multiple ways that they can beat you as
then they can run right at you and they don't
have to throw the ball, well, then they're multi dimensional.
But if they can't run the ball as effectively the
Broncos are a top ten defense against the run, well,
then they are a little bit more one dimensional, a
little bit one a little bit more pactears.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Back, yes and go after it. We've sort of seen
a lot of that this year because you know, moving
DJ to the zero, which you know that's not his
natural position, but he's he's in there giving it as all. Anyway,
you got John Frankly Myers, you added to that line
Roach and Malcolm Roach as well through the rotation and
being able to do what he's able to do.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I mean, it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Having John Frankly Myers in there is a huge upgrade
to what they've previously had in there. And so, you know,
I think that the combination of get better and getting
better personnel there. The one thing I was worried about
when hired Sean Payton was his guy's gonna invest everything
in the offensive side of the ball. We're gonna see
what we saw in New Orleans where they have a sweet,
sweet offense, but they're not able to get anywhere, you know,
for for years and years, and that hasn't been the
(29:42):
case now. I think the marriage of him and George
Payton thus far has been really good. George Peyton then
identifying the talent, bringing in the right bodies to you know,
to get this to get this thing done and get
it done the way they need to do it.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
They have invested on the.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Offensive side, obviously McGlinchey and Powers and you know, and
those guys that they brought in p ryalthough he's gone,
but they've also invested in the defense, and they've invested
the right ways in the defense to continue complimenting this thing,
paying guys they needed to pay, bringing in the guys
they needed to bring in, and going from there. And
I think they've made the right decisions on that across
the board, starting with letting Draymond walk and brings Zack
Allen in.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Oh, we agree on all that, and it's remarkable us
bringing this up. I think with Nick yesterday about when
Joe Douglass was fired, I was like, there's some parallels
here with George Payton taking a swing for a quarterback
and taking a swing on a coach and if not
panning out, And it could have easily been a similar
situation with Joe Douglass where ownership says, especially because also
(30:34):
getting tied there it was actually Woody Johnson's brother who
hired all these people instead of you know, the ownership,
the current ownership with Woody. So it could have been
where new ownership came in the Penner and Walton family
and they said, I'll you know, hey, George, I'm sorry,
these are just too many misses. We're gonna move on,
We're gonna get We're gonna bring somebody else in. And
(30:55):
I think that would have been a mistake, but again
that's up to them, the media and town calling for
that's right, that's right. But they could have done that,
and there was a lot of reasons why to do that.
But now you sort of stuck this out and you're
seeing the benefits of it because the way those two
work together, the way that Sean wants to construct the team,
and how George kind of sort of fills the gaps
(31:15):
and can find those value plays. I mean, we're talking.
You just listened to a bunch of players they brought
in tremendous value for JFM in the trade on Draft Day,
getting Malcolm Roach on a one year deal, Cody Barton
on a one year deal. I mean, you're fill in
the galaxy Nolton, Alex Singleton right, I mean, and Alex
Singleton right, is a starting caliber inside linebacker and you
(31:36):
still lost him for the year. You brought back Sternd.
You have Cody Barton and you haven't you haven't missed
a beat. So you have to kind of frame it
in this way of like, hey, we're gonna make this
move with Russell Wilson, and we're gonna have to be
really tight with some of the movies that we make,
and so far George Payton has really hit on everything.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
We're gonna talk a little nuggets when we come back.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
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Bone Nicks keeps adding to the hardware cases he is
offensive Player of the Week, keeps adding to the trophy
case a little bit there After his big time performance
against the Atlanta Falcons, a lot of questions and people
(01:50):
keep asking about when does he join the Rookie of
the Year to bey with with Jane Daniels all that
kind of stuff, And I mean, the odds still have him.
I think number two right now, as far as that
kind of stuff goes, Daniel is still the prohibitied favor
of the I think minus three hundred when I looked today,
but my bonics is plus five hundred. Well, Jame's minus
three hud No, I know I'm saying he's most plus
five hundred, yeah, right, second, right, But there's a pretty
(02:10):
big gap between them to the betters. Yeah, Now, that
doesn't necessarily mean that there'll be a big gap when
I'll said and done.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
One of the.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Interesting things if you're a Boon Knicks for Rookie of
the Year hopeful, is how Clif Kingsbury offenses have faded
in the back half of seasons before.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
So kind of something to kind of keep your eye on.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
There.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Are you picking up a plus five hundred bo Nicks ticket?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You already already have what you already believed you already
had a ticket, right right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I well, I wouldn't say that I thought about him
as a Rookie of the Year offensive Rookie of the
Year really until the last month that I thought was
a possibility, and part of that was sort of coinciding
with Jaydon Daniels play kind of taking a bit of
a dip, and you know, it doesn't necessarily have to
be one guy struggles so that the other guy succeeds.
(02:53):
But I would say that that Bonicks has some ground
to make up and it certainly helps the cause, right,
I mean, that's that's the thing is, like, it's it's
all about recency, So we don't have to necessarily discount
what Jade Daniels is up to this point, and I
think he'll continue to have a really good season. But
the fact is, I mean, you got nineteen total touchdowns
for Bownicks. C J. Stroud had twenty six last year.
(03:13):
So he's absolutely in range to surpass c J. Stroud,
who had what was considered the one of the most
remarkable rookie seasons in all of the history of football. Now,
maybe he doesn't reach the same yardage as far as
passing yardage, but he's adding some more with his legs
and again we'll see if they if they make the postseason,
I think he's absolutely in that conversation regardless of what
(03:36):
happens with Jade Daniels. But I think that he's gonna
need Jayden in the offense for the Washington Commanders to
dip a little bit in the process while bo Nicks
sort of continues on this trajectory, are you buying.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
That he's congenuining on the trajectory or that as we
look at the schedule and what we considered was going
to be the easier, at least defensively portion of the schedule,
where they got the you know, the Panthers and the Falcons,
the Ravens whose defense is bad this year, and then
you get to the Chiefs, were a good defense he
kept against that. Are you considering that that now as
we move into better defenses? I mean, the Colts and
(04:07):
Browns aren't exactly a gret football teams, but their defense has
been okay this year, too good at times. Are you
buying that he continues on their trajectory or do you
see even Bo maybe taking a step backwards as we
get into a little bit tougher down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I mean, again, progress isn't always linear, So it's one
of those deals like he may have a game or
two that he stumbles in here. You certainly hope not,
because honestly, their paths to the postseason, even though they're
in control of their own destiny, it's stills on a
relative razor's edge. There are still teams that are buying.
There's still teams like the Indianapolis Colts that are right
on their heels and they're not gonna go away. The
Miami Dolphins believe that they they're in this conversation. Angles
(04:41):
do too, and the Bengals are not out of it
either officially when they get to eight losses.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And trying to breathe life into Grant, I know, I
always feel so bad. I feel so bad because they're
playing the Steelers next and I'm like, well, you probably
can lose that one.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
But then the schedule gets nice. Yeah, it's it's tough
because every time, like I'm talking of a positive Broncos
playoff conversation, and I always has to include like, but
we got to continue to hope the Bengals lose because
if the Bengals are in it, and that second last
week when these two teams play, that could be a
very dangerous game for the Broncos. But no, I am believing.
(05:17):
I am believing that the Broncos are going to continue
on this trajectory, and you can only play the teams
in front of you. So for his offensive Rookie of
the Year candidacy, people will point to, like you often do, Wow,
this was a weaker defense and this really doesn't mean
all that much to me. Well, you know what, you
play the teams that are in front of you. We
have no idea whose team and where they're going to
(05:37):
be at. You know, we looked at the schedule back
in May. The Cleveland Browns game, for example, looked a
little more daunting than it does now. Right they're two
win team. They're obviously heading towards an offseason where there's
going to be some major changes for Cleveland. The Raiders
were a team that you always tend to play the
Broncos tough, but they're two win team.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
They're a bad team right now.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Indianapolis, we thought they would be probably a playoff team,
and now they're on the cusp of it. But they've
gone back and forth with the quarterback situation. They're kind
of all over the map. I'm just saying, like what
we think on paper about teams back in May, or
even before the season starts. Tends to change as it
goes through and a lot of Falcons were one of
those teams that will probably win that division in part
(06:15):
because the division is a very soft division, right, but
also because you know, they are the best of the
bad bunch. But that doesn't make them a bad team.
It just means that they're a flawed team, at least
in my perspective.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, five six, six nine zeros text line, you guys
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in person as well. Some other interesting news is some
hitting the hitting the highlights here Colorado. The cu Buffs
basically as a team committed to the East West Shrine
Game today.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I don't know if you saw that.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Shudorgh Sanders and basically the Sea Buffs is a team
almost committed.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
To the Shrine Game. The six players is considered sort
of the.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Second tier like the Senior Bowl has been the top
tier game, you know for people that are going to
the draft, and that is a fascinating I will say,
course correction or role reversal. But you know, for a
top tier player like Shad or Sanders and then basically
the team to commit to the Shrine game certainly says something.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Now there is a connection there.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Between Shador obviously all those Dallas connections down there, and
the Shrine game is now played at Arlington Stadium there.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
But that to me, that one leapt off the page.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
To me is maybe we're seeing something of a reversal
in the you know, what is the premiere Draft picks game?
Or is Shador not as highly thought of do you think?
Or is it just a you know, do you feel
like he's doing them a solid?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
But he threw a lot out there, I'll say, and
by the way, you're getting killed here are already on
the text line on your own show, which is hilarious.
But I will say that my first thought when I
saw that was, well, it's in Dallas. Well that makes sense, right?
He said yes to this, And as Shador goes, so
does a lot of the players. Again, there's six total
buffs that commit to going to the East West Shrine Game,
(08:02):
and then there may be something to that. Maybe we're
seeing a little bit of a shift. I know that
we have some friends there with the East West Shrine
Game with Derek Galco and what they're trying to do
down there, and they've been trying to build this thing up, right,
they've been trying to make this thing a bigger deal
than it has historically been. Right, it's used to used
to be in Saint Petersburg down there in Florida. It
was absolutely the afterthought. It was the we'll take whatever's
(08:25):
left over the Senior Bowl can't take, including underclassmen. And
now they're they're starting to get a little bit more
run right, and this will mean I guess that these
guys will not be going to the Senior bol because
they're ostensibly at the same time. I don't know if they're.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, there's some overlap. I don't know if there's an
exclusivity agreement or not. I reached out to Derek Galco
is the director of the Shrine Game, to kind of
find some of the stuff out, but he had got
back to me at the time we're broadcasting here. I
don't know if there's an exclusivity agreement. There hasn't previously
been one, Okay, but now with sort of the battle
over this and some of these bowls, offering money to
some of these players some of their thing.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
There may be an exclusivity agreement there.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I just thought it was interesting that to see you
as a team sort of decided to do that one
and then to pick that one instead of the other one.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I thought that was fascinating.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Maybe that's an inside baseball thing a little bit as
far as the you know, the draft process or whatever,
but that certainly was fascinating to me.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Well, but again, I saw it Dallas. Like you said,
you said, the headline for me, it's Dallas. Yeah, and
that's that's probably what that is.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
But you know, like I said, I've reached out there Galcohol.
I'll talk to him sometime probably tomorrow and figure out,
you know, get the behind the scenes on that.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
But that is I thought that was fascinating.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Hat like six guys.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
But the one day they're gonna be going there, there's
one name missing from that, isn't there. Well, yeah, that
one hasn't been decided yet.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But I'm sure that, you know, I'm sure that they'll
figure that out in terms of what it is that
he's gonna do and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Well, I'm just it's it's notable because Lejonte Western Shepherd.
Like those guys all all were in.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
He's not a graduated senior though, is here He's not
a graduated junior or junior.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
On Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, he's a junior, but he's not a gradual junior.
Graduated junior, And there are rules for the Senior Bowl.
It used to be anyway they take some juniors, but
you had to. But there is a rules for the
Shrine Game, right, so he.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Could have committed.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You know, there may be well, we'll figure that out
as it moves along, but yes, that is the one name.
The other name that was interesting was Shiloh, who was
not probably going to go to the Senior Bowl either way.
He is going to the Shrine Game. So you kind
of wonder if there's a deal behind the scenes. Hey,
I'll come there if you bring my brother, you know,
that sort of skin Dallas and again, but shador Is
is the headline, right, and that is the headline defense
(10:28):
to anybody else. That's going to be the highest drafted
quarterback out of the East West Shrine Games since probably
the eighties.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
That's exactly right. So that right there is attention grabbing everybody.
Everybody else is good player. Those are really good players.
I think.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I think, well, John Western actually make me a heck
of a player at the pro. The other kid, the
other safety, is he just going to play in the
pro level? There's it's Cus, that's Shiloh. The other I
kid think his name now.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, Cameron Craig. Yes. There's a video of Justin Simmons
firing up the players for the Falcons before the game
and sort of took a little bit of a shot
and he said, I you know so, and I can't
repeat because it was some bad words, some choice words. No,
but he said, uh, you know, more or less, I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Care if they're playing in front of their their home
fans bleep them. And some Broncos fans got a little
sideways on that, especially because Justin has seen a such
a positive guy. I don't really take too much into
that because honestly, it's it's in the moment he's trying
to get his guys fired up.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
They're trying to go out there and win a game.
He even said like, hey, we want to play in
the playoffs and this is just a game in front
of us. We got to find a way to win this.
But I think that was the fact that he said that,
you know, they're playing in front of their home fans,
bleep them. He's talking about the players, he's not talking
about the fans. Yeah, yes, but it's still like you know,
saying I'm a Bronco for life and then and then
doing stuff in that game.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
He's not though. I mean, he's under contract with the
Atlanta falconuse he's playing the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I understand that if you can be for.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
The you know, for the between the first and fourth quarter,
you could be that guy. I mean, if I'm sure,
Ferg we're here, he'd say the same thing. Man. It's
just like when when you're when the when the clock starts,
when the opening kick happens, like it, forget all the friendships.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
We're to let him. He's we can be friends afterwards,
you know. And Steve we talked about that a.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Couple of weeks ago, you know, and he was like, yeah,
he's a guy with the college with or whatever. He
absolutely blasted the mess out of me from the you know,
didn't apologize for it for like a decade, but you know,
it's it's, yeah, what's your between the lines. It's a
little bit different I don't have any problems with Justin
Simmons doing all that kind of stuff. We all know
who Justin is, We know who he is in the community.
We know he considers Denver home, and we know he
would be here and it wasn't his choice to move on,
(12:24):
so we know he'd be here in Denver still if
the opportunity existed for him. So I don't I definitely
don't hold that against.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Him, by the way, speaking of safety. By the way,
speaking of safeties, e Brandon Jones did get a limited
practice in today. Ben Powers was the only player that
was not able to practice, but again, hopefully that he'll
he'll be all right.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
The Raiders, by the way, just absolutely banged up. Yeah.
I think it's worse and worse for them as the
as the season wears along. I think Antonio Pierce is
probably gonna be out. They'll want it done there, you think.
So Yeah, with the Raiders, I can't see Tom Brady's
sticking with that.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You know, and he does.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I mean for the the percentage of ownership he actually has,
he has a lot of sway in Mark Davis's year,
I'll say that.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
A couple of text year on the Kawai Commas Spirit
health text line. Bonnicks wins AFC Player of the Week,
FedEx Air and ground yep, and two time Offensive Rookie
of the Week. All Bright's still making excuses about him
playing weaker opponents. Blanket that yeah, wet blanket all Bright?
Could we rewind the tape to whenever I did that?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Well, I mean you were sort of I asked you
the question if you thought he was going to continue
on this trajectory where he played tougher defenses than those quays.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
You sort of slipped in, You're gonna be playing weaker
defenses coming up. No, you're playing stronger defenses. It's sort
of like the framing of it was in a way
of like, well, Bonicks should be playing better, but you
know part said at.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
All, it's literally not with any Are you awake during
that segment?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Are you pulling a knee? I'm telling you what the
Texter and everybody in the city, the Texters being wrong
on this.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I said, are you do you think that Bonix's trajectory
continues when he plays tougher defenses coming up? I mean,
the Colts aren't a good team, but their defense is decent.
Browns aren't a good team, but their defense is decent. Okay,
you remember that quote, not how that's not how you
frame that, but literally how I said it. It's wrong
with people. Man, I'm gonna break the tape bag whatever.
I'm gonna grant to start playing segments back in the
next segment.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I don't think that's going to help you.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I think it will. You say that, I'll drive them
all off. I don't even care.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Sex line. If you guys want to lie about more stuff,
I say, I love how you have this, this perception
that that people have this all wrong about you.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
That's that's not a perception. What it is.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Okay, there it is.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I mean, yeah, everybody else titles live whatever alternate reality
they want to.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Everybody else has it wrong, but you have it right. Correct.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Narcissist says, what always? That works on a couple levels.
Oh my goodness, Jamal Murray's he living up to the
contracts he did yesterday finally he put he put the
team on his back.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
They don't win that game without him. Yeah, he was
the closer, if you will. He was making some babe
with Cairo Sedgwick. Yeah, he was hereos Seduc Nice work there,
I love that you get that reference. That's good. That's good.
You know you were a sports program. You could have
gone like Mario Vera.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
You get the higher premise of me is trying to
get Shannon to laugh behind you, But you went like
T and T is the closer?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, okay's Kevin Bacon's wife?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Kuris Cedric? You need from Phenomena?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I think that's the right one. Actually, isn't any Cedric?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Was it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
She was the closer?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
No, I know that, but it was who's Kevin Bacon's wife?
I thought there was Ala mcpeil. No, let's here Cedric
am I okay, that's Harrison Ford's wife?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Is that Alan McBeal?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I think?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
So? Okay, these are the stuff people tune in for.
Uh javal May Yeah, he he has overall not been
the guy so far. But I don't know if we
need him to be the guy today more so than
we need him to be the guy in April. See,
I felt like we need to be the guy while
was out, he's Robin.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
When Yoki comes back, there's not two Batman, there's one Batman.
I think the one thing that this stretch with yok out,
it showed me is that Daria saraz needs more minutes.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
There's a reason he's not playing for some reason. I mean,
I don't know what it is. I don't know what
it is.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
But he is up there. He's played great.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
No he has not. No, he has not not even
last night, Well.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Last night was that bicker. He's play He's played pretty well.
And I feel like you can you can spell Jokic
a little bit more with Sarach out there, Man, you're
the word pretty is doing a lot of heavy lifting
for you.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I don't know what you're talking about. With Darius Sarich,
he has been a disappointment. But but but either way,
he was brought in here to be better than he has.
And there was a time when Nikole Yoakic was playing,
they weren't even they weren't even bringing him in.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
He's here to give Jokic eight minutes a game, eight
minutes of you know, I know.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
They weren't even doing that, like just like a week ago.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
What does Michael Malone even know about basketball?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah right, I just love the irony. I ultimately love
the irony because Michael Bullhon only wants to play Vets
and here he they brought in a vets yesterday was
like his worst.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Game, but he's I mean, he wouldn't play in that
bad can go ahead. I'm looking your box scor scout
for me. No, I'm just saying he had ten points,
ten boards.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
That the game was four. That's what That's what you
get on that's what you want in plus minus.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I don't really know what that artificial number fake analytics nerd.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Uh is Ben's hate for Boenicks and Sean Payton softening
was that praise.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I've never had any hatred. That's the thing you got
to you guys were great, I hate or whatever coming in.
I'm just telling people that listen to your show.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I'm just telling you hear the words coming out of
your mouth.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
What did I say about the Atlanta Falcons victory? What
was the first thing I said when the game was
over on Twitter?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Well, I can tell you what said complete, But you
said one of the first things you said on the
air was that defense is weak and terrible.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
It's terrible, it's embarrassing with that. So did exactly what
he's supposed to gainst the bad defense.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Beat up on them. We gotta have a break. Broncos
Country Night Back after this, I'm busiting it on Bri
and I'm better than you. We've got the Raiders we.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Coming up, and I was talking with Steve about this yesterday.
First of all, it doesn't feel like Raiders Week has
the same sauce that used to have when Shanahan was here.
You know, he had the bitterness from Mike getting shifted
to a short shrifted four hundred thousand dollars by Al Davis,
which would be one point two million in today's money.
But it just doesn't feel like that it has the
same I don't know, kind of kind of appeal to
(18:20):
it or kind of hatred or vehemence to it that
it used to have. But part of that is because
I think neither team has been good enough to really
be able to concentrate on a rivalry with each other,
just because you know, they haven't been good enough to
deal with that. But the Broncos are starting to get
push that they snapped the streak against the Raiders. They
hadn't They had previously beat the Raiders since Sean Gruden
was head coaching up until earlier this year. They snapped
that streak, But it doesn't feel like it has the same.
(18:41):
Thing is there any part of this this game that
scares you at all, any matchup that scares you at all.
I mean, I see Bowers out there, but beyond that,
there's there's nothing about this game. I'm not I'm looking
at this thing and I'm like, we're gonna blow them out.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, I mean it's a division game. There's they haven't
actually won at Las Vegas yet, so there's a little
bit of that. So I I don't know. I'd say
if the Broncos are playing their game, they should handle business,
but there's always the possibility. Like you said, brock Bowers,
I mean, the Raiders had the Broncos on the ropes
early in that game. Here An did nothing. Yeah, they're
(19:12):
up to go seventeen nothing. I mean it was or
like seventeen three. I think it would have been the score,
but it was. It was right there and Gardner minshew.
I think he overthrew brock Bauer something to that effect,
and then I ended up being the pick six from
passer Tan and the Broncos really never looked back from there.
But I mean, up to that moment, it felt as
though the Broncos came out flat, so it kind of
be something along those lines brock Bauers is legitimate and honestly,
(19:36):
I mean, you think about the Rookie of the Year conversation,
brock Bowers is probably putting himself in that conversation.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
As we continue, I think it would be the top
non non quarterback in that in that conversation for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I think the top defender. You'd have to kind of
look at Jared Verse.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I was phenomenal, Yeah, which was the guy you know
I wanted here, But you know it was a good custolation.
I've just tried to get their eye rolls at a
Ryan right now. No, but I did want jer Ers
At the time. I was like, Okay, well, if we're
going to do the and instead are we are we
waiting on the quarterback or what are we doing here?
And if we could have gotten Verse and then the
Knicks later, that was kind of, you know, kind of
something I advocated for.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
But anyway, Pinesight now, but I agree with you in
the sense that it doesn't have the same sizzle as
it once did. But I think part of that is
because the teams haven't been all that good.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Well again, they haven't been good enough for it to
be for the rivalry to even matter.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, at this point, back in those days, both teams
had a claim and would continue to fight for the division.
Right now, it's the Chiefs Division and everybody else is
sort of infighting in between. And then hearing the Raiders
are with two wins so far, and like you said,
probably headed to a place where they're gonna be firing coaches.
And they got obviously going a completely different direction to quarterback.
He got Tom Brady in the building now, so he's
(20:44):
gonna probably lean on the scale a little bit with
some direction. But I mean, that's what makes it this
sort of tough. It's like there have been years when
the Raiders are actually pretty good, but the Broncos weren't
very good, and this is one of those years when
Broncos are actually pretty good, but the Raiders are not
very good at all.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Well. Yeah, and it's interesting because you had sort of
this triumvirate back in the nineties and two thousands of
Devil's Triangle, if you will, of everybody called it that everyone, Yeah,
Shannon's got I got you finally, but you did, and
it was bad blood. You had Kansas City, you had Denver,
and you had the Raiders and anytime any combination of
those thirty teams played each other, it was bad blood.
It was gonna be you know, it's gonna be a
(21:19):
hard hitting game. There's gonna be animosity there. Everybody got
up for those weeks, and it just doesn't feel the
same anymore. And you know, I don't know, that just
doesn't feel like there's animosity there when you play the
Raiders anywhere either, it doesn't. I mean, maybe there is
with the Kansas City thing, and I think maybe that
gut punch loss kind of injects some juice back into
that for the Broncos fans, but it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It didn't feel the same.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I was talking with Steve about that, and he's like,
you know, I don't know. If it's a modern generation,
different generation of players. The Shanahan component of that is
no longer there. But Steve was telling me that Mike
never said that to the players anyway, He never put
that out there and used that as a rallying cry
with the players ever when he was there.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Interesting, I didn't know that. I always thought that he did,
or I thought maybe it was just an understood thing.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
From what I understand from what I have heard, is
that Mike may have told other coaches, who in turn told.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Them, but he never did it directly. I mean, that's
that's fine. I mean, you know, I think oftentimes as
a coach you use all sorts of motivating factors and
maybe inserting yourself into the equation directly like that. But
this is Broncos Country today. Narcissism countries to I as
long as you understand, uh, the subtext of the show.
(22:24):
But but yeah, i'd say for for Mike Shanahan, yeah,
that that was always an understood thing. It was an
undertood thing for the fan base, was understood. It's seemingly
for the players, they would talk about it often. But
to hear the Mike never said that directly actually kind
of lines up. I mean, in the end, if everybody
knows that you really have to bring it up, do
you even have to make a point to bring it up.
If it's just an understood, Hey, we're going to do
(22:44):
this and we're going to use this rallying cry, it
actually probably has more impact by the fact that Mike's
too proud to even bring this up to us. But
we already know we got kind of that, we got coach.
But there isn't a rallying cry in this other than
it's division. It's an important game, and for the Broncos,
it's a necessary game. You've got to keep pace ahead
of these other teams. Now, the Colts are gotta they
got a tough game this week, right, I don't I
(23:05):
don't think they're gonna beat Detroit, but that that doesn't
mean I mean they're playing homes up. Plus you play
the Colts later. So it's right, give yourself a little
bit of buffer because there isn't any buffer right now,
not really. Uh, Cincinnati's on a by that helps a
little bit. I can see. Here are the stretches.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You're the stretch of the schedule for the Denver Broncos.
Now where you got to take their business. You gotta
beat the teams you're supposed to beat.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
The Raiders, the Colts, the Browns.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
These are teams you're supposed to beat, and you got
to go in and get there because the last part
of that schedule has the.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Potential to be brutal. Yeah, Miami's playing the Patriots, so
that's probably a game at home. So that's probably the
game that they're gonna end up getting. And then they'll
be five and six. At that point, they're right, They're
right there. So the last thing you want to do
is fall to six and six. And and again, I
do think you mentioned the Chiefs loss that actually might
have been in hindsight, we'll see when the season ends,
(23:52):
a quote unquote good loss. And I and I say
that knowing that it sounds kind of cringe, but understanding
that it really got the team focused on the details
and then the small things matter. You can't take it
quite literally anything for granted that by way taking for
granted podcast, you should check that out.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Onload an episode.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, oh wow, well I don't know about that, but
but but go back and listen to the archives. Phenomenal,
right stuff. But that's what I'm saying, Like it's one
of those I don't think you want to lose to
the Chiefs, especially in a gut wrenching way. But the
way that this team responded the very next week playing Atlanta,
you saw that that the details mattered, and they showed
up and they played the details in all three phases.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Well, it was the thing I wondered if they would
use that as a rallying cry. I harkened back to
the the nineties teams using the Jacksonville Jaguar loss as
a rallying cry for the next year. I wondered if
they could use that Kansas City is a rallying cry
for this year and look like we can you know,
if we're if we're if we take care of all
the things we can take care of and control those things. Uh,
then you know, we had the opportunity be in all
these games, and I thought if they were going to lose,
(24:54):
then then that was the way to do it. And
something that was sort of, you know, out of left field,
sort of a you know, a make break scenario in
the last player of the game because you've just gotten
blown out by Baltimore. You know, you just got boat
raced by them, and we just got through saying, look,
this team hasn't arrived, they don't belong.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
And then if you come back and.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
You prove that you do by you know, by by
hanging with a Kansas City team.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
In Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
So I think that there's you know, there's certainly something
to be said for that. Is there anything we're overlooking
about this matchup? Is there anything you know, backs against
the Wall? Antonio Pierce coaching first job is there anything
we're overlooking here?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
It's hard to say. I mean, again, you mentioned Max
Crosby earlier. He can always wreck games. And even this
last week against Tootongue Bylowa and the Miami Dolphins, it
wasn't the prettiest game from them. The Raiders defense did
get to Tua at times, but you really never felt
like Miami was not gonna lose, not gonna win that game.
And once again, you know, the Raiders offense is fascinating
(25:48):
because I think ja Cobe Myers is actually pretty good,
biggest player, and I think, you know, Trey Tucker's a
little bit underutilized. We talked about Brock Bowers. I mean,
he's gonna be a Pro Bowl this year as a rookie,
maybe even an All Pro Bokers.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
They're Marvin Mims right and and and there are moments
where you're like, man, why does this guy get the Baltimore?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And then you see them go through large spells where
they don't they don't even look his way, and I'm like, Okay,
I don't I don't really get this doing here, But
I would say that they did look improved with uh
with God who the Scottie who Scott turn Scott Turner,
thank you north Turst boy. Yeah, Scott Scott Turner. I
thought had them playing better. But it's Gardner Minshew Man.
(26:25):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I just still don't see a starting Caliper quarterback there.
Oh yeah, although Gardner does have experience with the magic
in Denver before the Broncos when we talked about that
a little bit and looked a little good at early
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Speaker 1 (26:42):
We've got an oil painting of him up in the studio.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Just like Luke Wilson from that that movie The Paying
was the Gift Ben that's a totally different movie.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
But we can do that painting too. It's it's basically
the same though, because good Bond the same.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Person and yeah yeah, and you got one of the
Wilson brothers and they're dead matter which one. That's they're
the same guy, Owen, That's it's all the same.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Been talking a little bit about Raiders week and uh,
it doesn't feel like it has the same juice that
has always the five six six nine zero you guys
can weigh in on that, uh as well.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
You think Nick Benito could win Defensive Player of the Year.
I mean, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe he's
got to keep the sack pace going. He's only two
and a half behind Trey Hendrickson right now.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, but I was gotta keep it going because Trey
will he's the only guy on that Cincinnati defense right now.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
That's worth it, solf I.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You know, Nick was a guy I thought would would
really break out, you know, kind of last year, and
he's sort of having that this year more so than last.
We last year. He could have announced himself to Broncos
fans last year, but he's anounced himself to the NFL
this year. And it's not just you know, he's two
and a half back. That's the number of sacks that
got wiped off the board by penalty, I know, last game.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
He's he is having a monster year and him and
Coop have really kind of emerged and become the you know,
the go to one two punch and then you're having
that Jonah Ellis rotation in there and Ellis getting on
the board. In the last game, I think was was
good as well. There are a lot of people that
when we move Barreon Brown and we only got a
six for him and all that, and I think you
kind of see why they saw what they what they
envisioned here. They knew they weren't gonna pay him. They're
(28:08):
only paying one of these guys, and so you know,
Coop Cooper earned it. You're in the contract and him
and Benito have been have been outstanding. Nickas is really benefited,
I think for having Zach Allen agree out there as well.
And that's that's another thing that that fascinates me, because
Zach Allen's gonna do it for another contract here fairly soon.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
And what are you gonna do about that? You know,
because you're gonna have to pay him. There's a good
question today to Sean Payton, and maybe we'll play it.
I don't. I had to go find it, but it
was it was basically, do you think some of the
sack production is as a direct result of the Broncos
being better against the run this year? And it you know,
we talk about the chicken rag stuff all the time
that this is that's a great point, right And he
(28:45):
and Sean said, I do think it is because if
there are multiple ways that they can beat you as
then they can run right at you and they don't
have to throw the ball, well, then they're multi dimensional.
But if they can't run the ball as effectively the
Broncos are a top ten defense against the run, well,
then they are a little bit more one dimensional, a
little bit one a little bit more pactears.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Back, yes and go after it. We've sort of seen
a lot of that this year because you know, moving
DJ to the zero, which you know that's not his
natural position, but he's he's in there giving it as all. Anyway,
you got John Frankly Myers, you added to that line
Roach and Malcolm Roach as well through the rotation and
being able to do what he's able to do.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I mean, it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Having John Frankly Myers in there is a huge upgrade
to what they've previously had in there. And so, you know,
I think that the combination of get better and getting
better personnel there. The one thing I was worried about
when hired Sean Payton was his guy's gonna invest everything
in the offensive side of the ball. We're gonna see
what we saw in New Orleans where they have a sweet,
sweet offense, but they're not able to get anywhere, you know,
for for years and years, and that hasn't been the
(29:42):
case now. I think the marriage of him and George
Payton thus far has been really good. George Peyton then
identifying the talent, bringing in the right bodies to you know,
to get this to get this thing done and get
it done the way they need to do it.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
They have invested on the.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Offensive side, obviously McGlinchey and Powers and you know, and
those guys that they brought in p ryalthough he's gone,
but they've also invested in the defense, and they've invested
the right ways in the defense to continue complimenting this thing,
paying guys they needed to pay, bringing in the guys
they needed to bring in, and going from there. And
I think they've made the right decisions on that across
the board, starting with letting Draymond walk and brings Zack
Allen in.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Oh, we agree on all that, and it's remarkable us
bringing this up. I think with Nick yesterday about when
Joe Douglass was fired, I was like, there's some parallels
here with George Payton taking a swing for a quarterback
and taking a swing on a coach and if not
panning out, And it could have easily been a similar
situation with Joe Douglass where ownership says, especially because also
(30:34):
getting tied there it was actually Woody Johnson's brother who
hired all these people instead of you know, the ownership,
the current ownership with Woody. So it could have been
where new ownership came in the Penner and Walton family
and they said, I'll you know, hey, George, I'm sorry,
these are just too many misses. We're gonna move on,
We're gonna get We're gonna bring somebody else in. And
(30:55):
I think that would have been a mistake, but again
that's up to them, the media and town calling for
that's right, that's right. But they could have done that,
and there was a lot of reasons why to do that.
But now you sort of stuck this out and you're
seeing the benefits of it because the way those two
work together, the way that Sean wants to construct the team,
and how George kind of sort of fills the gaps
(31:15):
and can find those value plays. I mean, we're talking.
You just listened to a bunch of players they brought
in tremendous value for JFM in the trade on Draft Day,
getting Malcolm Roach on a one year deal, Cody Barton
on a one year deal. I mean, you're fill in
the galaxy Nolton, Alex Singleton right, I mean, and Alex
Singleton right, is a starting caliber inside linebacker and you
(31:36):
still lost him for the year. You brought back Sternd.
You have Cody Barton and you haven't you haven't missed
a beat. So you have to kind of frame it
in this way of like, hey, we're gonna make this
move with Russell Wilson, and we're gonna have to be
really tight with some of the movies that we make,
and so far George Payton has really hit on everything.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
We're gonna talk a little nuggets when we come back.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Vine Benedetto gonna join us. You listen to rough Us
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