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Amongst the people that are eligible for that, and not
merely for myself for self serving purposes, as I have
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So give me just a second as I try to
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eligible for this. And it looks like right now that
listener Paul Welch has a one game lead on listeners
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Speaker 2 (01:29):
Bring on our guy Tim Jenkins. Tim, how you doing
this evening?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I'm right here. You know.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
It's another day, another dollar, That's how it goes. I
saw you out there showcasing new hats. Is there is
there new merchandise coming to Jenkins lead?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Buddy? Don't you get me going?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
You know, pardon me the thing do?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I want to put it out there on Twitter, but I'll.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
See it because you know, I gotta I gotta take
care of you.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I got to get you about I gotta get you
a dozen so you can rotate through them because I
know you wear them out, so you know, we'll get
you taken care of. But yeah, we've got a couple
of new hats coming out. I'm so to let people
decide what's cool, because you know how it is. He
you start getting a little bit older, you lose the
eye for it.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I'm starting to think, so it's cool, and people are
telling me that's that's the opposite, right, I'm wearing the
mid high socks and people don't like it. Yeah. To me,
it's like, hey, well I'm old enough now to not
care anymore. But the year you do want people to like.
So we're starting to let people vote on them.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
There you go, Well, that's that's probably a smarter a
smarter movie. Yeah I do.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I still have my original Jenkins Elite hat.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It used to be white.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Now it's kind of a khaki, a permanent khaki color
maybe a lot around, more like an alarm mill coffee color.
It's picked up some turtle, it's picked us some wear
tear over the years, But I still I still love
my original Jenkins Elite hat. I'll be rocking that for now.
But you know, the long sleeve T I could use
like a white long sleep.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
I'm just putting out there.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
If you don't like it, send it right back, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And speaking of sending it right back, man, the Denver
Ruckles defense was doing that to Jameis Winston here on
Monday Night football, sending it right back return to center
Nick Bonito house in one. Uh yet everybody getting in
on the I in T party, j Kwa McMillan getting
in there, and then Cody part and there at the end.
Us is a quarterback who you know has thrown an
interception or two in his time. How does one how
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does one recover from having an interception party?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, so first and foremost, we were having a staff
call today and everyone pretty much pretty much you n amis,
it was like that was the perfect representation of Jameis
Winston right, like he's throwing for like four something touchdowns
a bunch of pick sixes. To me, My favorite part though,
is that he's getting up on the podium and he's
he's asking Jesus please deliver me from these pick sixes,
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right like not working it, I mean I love it.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I'm not working the other guy I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, I'm just like, I'm a huge fan of it.
How you bounce back? Like, listen, I don't think I
don't think a guy like Jamis How do I phrase
this correctly? I don't think a guy like Jamis does?
I think that's I think that's Jameis Winston, right, I
think that is who you when you're putting him under center,
that's who you're getting, which is there are going to
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be risks taken with the football. With that being said,
they are also going to be big plays, right, Like,
I think anyone watching the Browns the last few weeks
has quickly realized if they don't play an absolute you know,
a great term, not a not a tremendous human being. Apparently,
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how granted justice, you got to play it out. If
they didn't play.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Pay him, play him, play him, and pay him so
much money, they're.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Probably a way more competitive football team with Jameis Winston
under center, right like we I think a lot of
people saw the Browns coming to town with their record
and they thought that Broncos are just gonna walk over them,
like that's a watching them play, that's a drastically different
football team than you when you watch the Raiders play, right,
the Raiders are, they're done, the coach is done. You
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can just tell, you can kind of see it and
them and Grant, they gave Kansas City a good game,
but you can see it in them.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
If you get them down early, what happens. The Browns
aren't that, and they're not going to be that.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
As long as they have James Winston aren't. To me,
it's like, I don't know, I I think you don't
really solve that for him.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
And then also you look at it and you go
and I and I and I know you know.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Riley was out, but you sit there and you go, man,
the Broncos defense is a good defense, and they came
in here and they made the big plays. Obviously you've
got Jerry Judy who wants to have a big game.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
But to me, it's like, you know, I think that's
more or less what you get with jamis you got
to you gotta love the defense.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Stepped up in really big moments, which is you're gonna
have to be able to win football games like that
where the defense isn't always bailing out on offense and
we can kind of return the favor. I think it
was good to see the Broncos win in another way
compared to what we've seen where it's you know, complimentary
on the offensive side and the defense is really the
one stepping up. Where now it's like, okay, hey, we
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had a game where you know, we had to score
forty to win and we did it. I think that
really makes you feel even better about this Broncos team.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
You know, Tim, even though statistically both did not kind
of light things up, we did have is a moment.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Obviously explosive plays.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Well when you look at the game on Monday and
just that game only in judge it by itself, Well,
what did you see and what did you come away
from the game with?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, I think Sean hearing Sean kind of I want
to say, take accountability over that last interception, I think
is pretty honest from his standpoint, because you're sitting there
and it's like, we've got two options on this route
this concept. We can either throw that kind of bender,
that kind of deep over, or we can throw the
home run post safety jumps the deep over like of course, yeah,
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we're gonna throw it deep out. The fifty to fifty
guy you're throwing through is mims not a fifty to
fifty guy, right.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
We want him more open with his speed, not necessarily like, hey,
here's a jump ball, right.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So to me, it's I thought that one you kind
of isolate you look at the other pick. To me,
it's like, hey, that ball gets batted up. I think
we need to fight down hill a little bit more
as a receiver. I think we need to be friendly
on the endcut. There's some to me, those are the
two where I'm like, I don't want to say I
don't care, but those makes more sense to me than
maybe that one. I don't know if you guys remember
he scrambling around and he like throws it up near
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the sideline in the red zone, Like, those are the
ones that I think are more concerning to me. But
I think overall, like you.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Know that stick route that he threw where the dtackle.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Drops underneath it and he throws it outside shoulder like
you you know, it's hard to explain.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I always feel like, you know, people that aren't familiar.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
With the game, it's so hard to explain how limited
your vision is over the middle.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Like how much you actually don't see and you're trusting
all your reps and the fact that he either recognized
the look and knew that Detackle was spot.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Dropping or somehow located him. Like, to me, that's a
big time play. No one gets excited about it because
it's a twelve yard gain and it was a six
yard yack on just a six yard ball. But those
are the kind of things that to me, keep the
chains moving, keep this offensifficient to where when you look
at playing meaningful football in December and January, like the
Broncos are doing act exciting to me that we're making
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those kind of plays. I think you know, to be honest,
I thought you played a heck a lot better game
than the stat line indicated. But I do think like
there's a lot to learn from from putting the ball
in harm's way as we start playing against teams that
you know one or two mistakes is gonna end up
costing us the game.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Talk with Tim Jenkins at T Jenkins E leade Tim,
and let's talk about exciting plays. The fans do get
excited about the ninety three yard touchdown over forty air
yards to Marvin Maams and you could read it the
whole way. I mean, you could see right off the
bat they were in inverted too. How did you like
bo reading that one and the placement on the ball there.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, I mean that was big time. And you know,
me been with the air yards. I was getting fired
up early in the season. I was telling the nerves,
don't worry about the air yards. They're coming, you know,
because the thing is, like, you guys know, I don't.
I can't figure out those dang advanced stats. So to me,
it's like, rather than try to learn them, I'm just
gonna yell at it right, like an old guy yell
at the cloud. So the air yards, to me, I
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like you kind of knew they were coming. He was
a great ball thrower, I think throughout his whole career.
What I tell you, though, is like, dude, what a
ball the inverted to Like you said, where they were
kind of kicking that corner back and they were dropping
that safety down. You would think that safety you know nothing.
He's responsible for running the middle right because the backer is,
but you would think that there's times where you see
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that guy come screaming down to be that hook curl
defender or that hook defender and he like contacts that
middle read right. You see where it's like it's unintentional,
but it slows it up, whether it's true contact or
a foot pattern. So the fact that we ran right
through there and then he just ripped a bullet and
you're backed up right, so you're dropping more or less
into your end zone. And that's as good as it get.
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And I love seeing Sean Payton aggressive with the call
when you're in the coming out situation because that's tough.
Usually you know you're more thinking.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Hey, one or two first downs, we punt, we changed
field position back right, But.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I mean a big play that was huge. I think
we had a couple of just to me, the one
where they're in kind of a dash path where he
flash fakes and he sprints out and he hits Courtland
Sutton on the deep over. I love that one because
the concept they had was really designed to go to
like we called it a sale house right where you
try to run that corner you take like you run
the corner and then you take it vertical.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It's designed to go to that.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Well.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Cleveland had great coverage on it.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
And then he gets to his backside progression with Sutton
run the deep over, and I think Sutton looks to me,
he looks as good as he's looked since I've really
started covering the Broncos the last few years. It looks like,
I mean, I can't blame him right for not being
energized with some of the guys that've been thrown to him.
But now I've got a dude throwing through him and
he's playing meaningful football, like he looks to me back
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to where he was at earlier in his career, and
I just think, man, I'm excited. I think the Broncos.
I think they're a team that can really make a run.
I think people aren't taking them as seriously as they should.
I still think the national narrative isn't what it is here.
I think here we can start to see how such
special this team is. I think nationally people still feel
like there's this huge gap between the top teams in
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the Broncos, and I just don't feel like that because
I see different ways that this team can sneak. You know,
stay stick around and stay competitive, and.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Then if you can do that, you see, like the
Kansas City game.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Right we're one field goal block away from beating them.
And then you look at it too, like you know, Baltimore,
you really look at how that game shook out, and
it's like, granted, we got our butts kicked, but you're
on the road and you're kind of like, man, if
these two or three plays go different, this seems a
heck of a lot more competitive going into halftime, and
then I don't think it turns into a route.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I think they're a lot closer than people give the
credit give them credit for. And I think, you know,
some of those big plays like you talked about, are
part of the reason.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
Before you came on, Ben.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
And I were talking about the college football rankings that
came out last night, and you know, they have Georgia,
who's kind of been like up and down, they're back
at five. And for me, I know Ben said a
while back, you know, he was talking about Carson Beck.
I want to get your take on it, and for me,
I see Carson a certain way, not because I'm on
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the Georgia said, and he currently attends youga, but I
just I just want your professional take on cars and
beg because the kid is so up and down, and
luckily Georgia has a lot of talent that could they
can overcome a lot of his mistakes.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah, I mean, man, so first and foremost the Coast
Football Playoffs. In me, I'm so pumped up to see
how it shakes out because at different weeks, I'm like
looking at the bracket and I'm thinking of myself, the
five seed might be the best arm seed in the tournament, right,
you might? You might like you might have two great
opportunities before you play another power five. And granted, who
knows Bois can stay could steak up and beat somebody,
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but I think Boise I almost want to see that
second round game be a home playoff game too, right,
because it's like that to me would be interesting. You
got a home playoff game, then those by guys get
the bye week guys get another home playoff game, because
I'd love to see, like, you know, I'd love to
see like a Vama or a Georgia, like you're saying,
have to travel the boys the Idaho. You know, I
just think that'd be exciting. But Carson Beck, so here's
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what I tell you. I think if you'd have told
me last year, two years ago, hey, how long he's
been in college, all that stuff, I probably would have
thought that was a knob. Seeing what Bo's doing I
think actually helps Carson's case because Bo had so many
darn college starts and you kind of come in. It
seems like the NFL not as big of an adjustment
as is for some of these guys who didn't have
as many college starts. So I think that plays the
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Carson backs advantage. You know as a scene in Moneyball,
right where they say, hey, he's got an ugly girlfriend,
They go, hey, what does that mean? No confidence? Right? Well,
he did want to have a lyricic, so you got
to think, hey, he's got a little bit of confidence. Right,
that's a good thing for him.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
But I think, like ultimately some of these SEC quarterbacks, Nick,
I just think the truth is you can't tell.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Like you turn on his tape, you're not going to
see a bunch of tight window, big time froze. And
it's hard. Do you penalize the kid because he's got
a receiver outside who creates a ton of separation, or
do you you know, hey, say hey, so many.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Throw Like I think he's a tough eval.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
His physical traits aren't nearly good enough to where I
think an NFL team's going to actually get in trouble
taking him, so to me, I look at him as
one of those guys who I think you've end up
going so late from a positional value standpoint that you
could probably take him because it's not like you're having
to trade up and take him in the top three, right, Like,
you know, I think that's where teams can really find it.
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I mean, listen, shoot, look at san Fran. If Sam
Fran doesn't look out and snag and Brock Purdy at
the end, you know, John Lynchon doesn't have a job
anymore because he the he traded everything for Trey Lance,
who now.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Can't even be out Cooper Rush, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
So to me, it's like, I think he's a safe
pick because just you know, I haven't seen him get
run up the draft board yet.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Now listen, if you were like, hey, is he a
top ten pick, I'd say no shot.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
But if you're sitting there and you're saying, you know,
can you get him later? I think there's an argument
to be had, And I think a lot of it's
based on what I think we're seeing from some of
these more experienced college guys they finally get the rains
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, I think there's something to getting your reps, or
at least the pendulum swinging back to that, rather than
drafting these guys that are uber young, like you know,
like Trey Lance or Anthony Richardson that that are they're
super super young and raw. Uh, and then they get
guys in trouble that are trying to develop them. Because
if you're trying to develop a guy while you develop
them for the next.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Guy, oh yeah, there's no doubt. That's that thing that's
crazy about it. Right if you sit there and you
go and then you know, you guys know that the
pressure from not only the fan base but probably everyone
to play these guys early, right, and then you sit
there and it's it's just hard. I think, you know,
I just think it's it's hard right now it's not
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a developmental business.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
And the sad you know, not you know my joapbox,
but the sad thing I.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Think for quarterback play is we're starting to see it
not be a developmental business at the college level too. Right,
You're we're seeing more portal quarterbacks and we're seeing take
them out of high school, give them a year in
your system. Right, we're seeing that, and you know, the
day to day business that I'm running. It's like you're
seeing it way more where if you're not a top
fifty kid, you're not getting a real major D one offer.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
We have kids that, to me, are better than kids
we've had that are e leade eleven kids got offered
by every SEC school coming out of Colorado. I've got
kids better than that that are going to the SCS
level now.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
And it's just because you know, hey, sorry, we're taking
these these portal kids because guess what, if we don't win,
we're out. And I can't wait for this, you know,
seventeen year old kid to develop. So to me, it's
gonna be interesting to see what happens with quarterbacks. What
I'm fearful of is we continue down this path of
kind of every level is not developmental, and then we'll
just keep seeing what we see, which is there's ten
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probably quarterbacks you can win with. Then there's another twenty
that you have to pay as if you could win
with them, and it just creates this situation where you're
paying a guy who you probably can't win strictly because
of him, but you're paying him sixty million dollars so
you got no more cap spake with. And then you're
just you can't go and do it.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
You know, like there's not that many Josh Allen's blocking
around where it seems more or less like you can
kind of get rid of some pieces, pay him and
he's gonna be okay.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Right, there's not that many dudes, and there's a lot
of guys like you know. I don't want to throw
any shade at Kirk Cousins because I think he's a
heck of a quarterback, but when you talk about it
from where you have to pay him market wise, the
conversation's just tough.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Well, Tim, Well, appreciate it as always.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Look forward to chat with you again here soon and
bitcoin top to Hunter care tonight.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I hope you got a little bit coin there, buddy.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I should I shouldn't have turned down that guy. He
tried to pay me a bitcoin when I first storry.
Keep grinding.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
We gotta keep grinding here. We got to hit a
commercial break. We'll be back Broncos Country to night after this.
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Speaker 1 (18:14):
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Speaker 8 (18:54):
Deontay Johnson has received a one game suspension from the
Baltimore Ravens after refusing to enter the game against the
Philadelphia Eagles. Is this the end of Deontay Johnson as
we know it in the NFL? Or is he gonna
get get another shot elsewhere? I'd say somebody he was
desperate enough to give one more crack at it. Yeah,
you know, desperation breeds fools of us, all right, keep
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going back to the well and do it stuff like that.
Deondrea Johnson.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I think it's the end of him as a starting
caliber receiver. I mean, unless he happens to fall, you know,
get on with a team that has a bunch of injuries.
I think what we're getting at is a reclamation project
that probably doesn't pan out. And what I was talking
to Nick about earlier, what a testament to Mike Tomlin
for all these headcase receivers that he's put up with
over the years. Manuel Sanders might be the least default receiver.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Mike Thomas put up a bunch of more Tamos, Brian Chase, Claypool,
Antonio Brown, like Wallace, Mike Wallace, you get.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Deontay Johnson, all these guys that he's gotten production out
of it, managed to make work before they go elsewhere
and flame out. So in my opinion, it's the end
of him as a viable fantas c and or production guy.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
But he's probably stick around the league little bit.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
No, no, no, The answer to that question is absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
And like I told Ben, if you can't usually people
say if you can't make it in New York, you
can make it anywhere else, But if you.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
Can't make it in Pittsburgh, you can't make it anywhere else.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Because Mike Tomlin is just that type of coach that
you go from Pittsburgh to Carolina to now Baltimore and
now you're being suspended because guess what they wanted you
to go in the game and you said no, no,
that's not part of it. This is not Anthony Richardson. Well,
I'm gonna tap out because I'm tired. No things have
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reached a tipping point. And they always say you got
three strikes. This is three strikes for Deontae. So if
I'm any other team, I'm not gonna worry about the headache.
I'm gonna go into the draft and get a younger player.
Speaker 8 (20:50):
Two Prevor Lawrence suffered a pretty nasty hit from disease
Outshi Yere in Sunday's game, resulting in a three game
suspension for his ease outside al Shire.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
He appealed that.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
Dispension, but it has been upheld by the league. Is
the NFL doing enough to protect its players?
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I mean, look, I didn't like to hit necessarily, but
I also think that Trevor does shoulder some of the blame.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
These quarterbacks are not getting into that slide fast enough.
You know, we saw it. I think it was Kenny
Pickett back in college. You put the fake slide on
and they outlawed that.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
You've gotta you know, you gotta make it to where
quarterbacks have as show intent to slide, otherwise they're considered
an open field runner. It's it's not fair to defenders
who are trying to figure this out. And I empathize
with uh with the ziz Al shay here a little
bit on that. But then on the flip side of that,
he's handled that about his as worse as he possibly
could using social media. I don't know if y'all saw
(21:48):
the tweet where he said he's making himself out there
that people are talking about you want me to be
the villain, I'll be the villain and posted a picture
of Joaquin Phoenix as a.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Joker and all that kind of stuff. You know, He's
he's the handle this about as poorly as possible. I think, well,
for me, this is a.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Much bigger topic that we can get into tomorrow. But no,
I don't think that the league is doing enough to
protect all of his players. Some yes, but not all.
Speaker 8 (22:19):
Sorry, all right, Josh Allen now the heavy heavy favorite
to become NFL MVP at minus two to twenty five odds,
Saquon coming in at number two at plus three p
fifty and then Lamar Jackson coming up third at plus
nine hundred. Do you think someone else belongs in that
top three?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
And if not, is that top three in the right
order right now? Oh man, it's a good question, I think,
Lamar to me, I think Lamar.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Is gonna win it if Baltimore, you know, they've had
a couple of stumbles, but I think he turns it around.
The voters have shown u susceptibility, although it could be fatigued,
they vote for him. Josh Allen, I don't know statistically,
I mean, he's in the ballpark there.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Saquan, I don't know he keeps it up.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I mean you're asking him in the last quarter of
the season to keep up at a remarkable.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Productivity streak for a running back. It's tough to do.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
One of the players, I think that probably belongs to
the conversation, and much to your chagrin their young seekers
is Russell Wilson. Look at what he's done so far
and what he's turned Pittsburgh into. I think he belongs
probably in that conversation somewhere. Does I think he'd get it.
Probably not, but certainly in that conversation. And that's probably
the big three. I mean, Derek Henry was in that
conversation a little bit. There was a couple of receivers
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that were in that conversation a little bit, but it
probably probably those three.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Now, both of you guys are absolutely wrong with these
players on this particular list. And I'm sure you know
Brent Smith, if he was here, he would definitely give
me a hooda because it's Joe Burrow just happens that
his defense can't stop and thosebleed.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Because he leads the league in yards, he leads the.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
League to touch down to interception ratio with thirty toutdowns
and five interceptions. His stats are off the charts, you know,
much better than Josh Allen. But people are not going
to talk about him because his team is just trying
to get into the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
But Joe Burrow should be the MVP of the.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
League and he's not even a George Pickens merchant for.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
All right.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
Christian McCaffrey commented on his injury on the forty nine
ers cursed season, saying, when it rains it course, do
you think this is just an unlucky curse season from
the forty nine ers and Christian McCaffrey, or do you
think this is maybe the beginning of the end?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I mean, I don't believe it curses, but unlucky sure,
I mean, you know that's one of those things that
I mean, it happens.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
They've had relatively good health.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Luck For other seasons, it sort of happens, and a
lot of times it happens post Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
You look at teams post super Bowl, they have it
down here.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Look at the Niners the last time post Super Bowl
lost that they had banned down here. I don't you
know all this stuff where you get people and it's
hilarious watching San Francisco media people and fans melt down
saying fire Kyle Shannon.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
Please do, please do.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
The last time you got fired a successful coach, you
wound up with Jim, Tom Sulla and Chip Kelly.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
Please fire Kyle.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Shannan, who will have a job before he leaves the
office to pick up his resign his firing papers, We'll
have a job head coaching somewhere else, probably in the division,
probably smoking you over.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
And over again.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Well here's what I think. This is the case of
the football life actually catching up with you.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Everyone has someone a window. And San Francisco has been
great for a certain.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Amount of time.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
I mean they were not great when I was coaching there,
but once I left, they just became this team, this
hot team and them there.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
Yeah yeah, so but right now that's what things are
starting to catch up with. This is why Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Kansas City is starting to realize their window that they
thought was open with Patrick Mahomes is now starting to close.
So this is what's happening in the San Francisco forty
nine ers. Dude, I think the dynasty is over for them.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
No, they just got to get in.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
They have to get healthy, go back to new draft,
get better on defensive side of the ball, and they'll
be right back in the mix.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Five.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
The Ringer has moved bo Nicks up to number twenty
nine on its NFL quarterback rankings list, but he's notably
still behind Drake May, Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, Justin Fields,
and some.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Other questionable quarterbacks.
Speaker 8 (26:20):
Where do you think bo Knicks ranks so far among
the league's starting quarterbacks, and where do you think he
ranks among the league's rookie quarterbacks?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Where do they have? They have what twenty nine twenty nine?
Speaker 8 (26:30):
If I think they have like thirty eight, They've got
some backups in there.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
He's still currently behind again a backup in Justin Fields.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, that's absurd. I'm not saying he needs to be
in the top half of the league. I probably put
him by twenty but twenty.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Nine, like, who's he?
Speaker 5 (26:47):
You?
Speaker 7 (26:47):
You know some name seas but you.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Just mentioned Fields, which is stupid.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Field should not be in the top thirty, much of
the top fifty, let alone the top thirty.
Speaker 8 (26:53):
Anthony Richardson's another one again.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Old Anthony Richardson is a forty seven percent completion percentage.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
That's it's questionable.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
And Aaron Rodgers ahead of him.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
He's all the way up at fifteen, which I thought
was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I would not have Rodgers ahead of him this season.
Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Ahead of him, Russell Wilson's definitely would definitely Derek car
ahead of him.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Russell Wilson's at twenty four.
Speaker 8 (27:15):
Behind Williams, Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 7 (27:18):
Fourth in the league and adjusted net yards for a.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Tenth what twenty four and then you've got a wins
in this list. Stephen Ruiz looking for the show for tomorrow.
We're gonna make fartest clown.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
Whoa, whoa. I don't know if you're gonna come on
the show. You called him Stephen Ruiz the circus.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Well he is.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
What I'll say, statistically, when you look at both nakes
as far as his yards, he is ranked eleven in
the NFL. When he comes to some of those rookie quarterbacks,
like you asked that, you know, where was where would
I rank him?
Speaker 7 (27:53):
Right now?
Speaker 5 (27:53):
He's at the second to Jayane Daniels based on what
Jane Dunn Daniels is done as both as passer and
a running quarterback. So we'll we'll see. This is a
great thing about this part of the year. We get
a chance to see what thing is gonna look like.
Who's gonna win those final games, those pivotal games, especially
if you watched it and you're the Denver Broncos. That's
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going to be the tail of to take for us.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Six Now, book book that do, Book that do.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
For tomorrow, we're gonna find agree that. But Steven Ruis,
we're gonna book this guy for tomorrow and make an
answer for twenty ninth. Just twenty Nields is ahead of
Okay and Jamis and Sam Darnold.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
Interest your list of criterions, Yeah, yeah, he has a
whole rubric and he scores them all and everything.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Your formula somehow puts justin Fields ahead of Bononix. It's
your formula that's flawed. I would tend to agree. I'm
not going to defend the guy. I would tend to agree.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
Last one for you guys here, ESPN right now gives
the Broncos a seventy five percent chance of making the
NFL playoffs. Which realist opponent do you most want to
see in that wild card round?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
And who are you hoping the Broncos dodge? Well, you're
hoping they dodge Buffalo. You hope they dodge. You're hoping
they dodge Buffalo. Who do I want to see?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
You want to see either Kansas City, Pittsburgh or Houston
because those are the teams you match up really well against.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
You want to avoid the.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Chargers, Ravens or Bills because those are the teams you
don't match up very well with.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Yeah, I'll agree right now. If the playoffs started to day,
you are taking a trip back to Buffalo. To Buffalo
to play the Buffalo Bills. The last time the Broncos
were there they actually won. But I'm sure this would
be a great game because you get the young guy
and bo Nick's playing against the veteran guy who's had
his troubles early on in negative criticism and Josh Allen
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then you had bon Miller playing against the different Broncos.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Jamen Virgue, who was once the Broncos wide receiver on
bo was out with the Buffalo Bills some yet for
that one. But if we can't avoid them.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Freaking avoid them, I think if we're wanting a revenge game, though,
I think everybody's circling Pittsburgh right now. Russ is cooking.
I think everybody's circling that one. I don't know if
you want that right now, but I don't think we do.
But I think of the teams, I think we match
up better with Pittsburgh than we do against than we
do the Buffalo.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
But I'll say, if.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
There is they got malato back now, Yes, if there's
a polly that you say you want to face, it
is Kansas City.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Because let's be Tellianni.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
They got a horseshoe and it is crammed so far
off the backside.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
Right now, that horseshoe is starting to show a rabbit.
He's got a horseshoe. Monkey's Paul. They got all all these.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, all of them, They got all these things going
on right now. I think they're the most beatable. I mean,
they're they're eleven to.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
One, and you got to give respect for for who
they are, what they are, what they accomplished, and Pat
Mahomes and all that. But they have been getting by
on some games this year and you figure they're due,
I mean, especially revenge for the field goal.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
But this is why the last game of the season
is going to be all important for the Denver Broncols,
when they play their starters or not.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
But that's the reason you don't want Kansas City, right
because last game of the season, they're not gonna play
their starters. There's gotta scout, you know, on what you're
what you're doing, and then you're gonna go right back
and play them again.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
That's a great thing of being a coach. You learn
to adjust.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Right.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
You run things against Kansas City Spagnola season, the next week,
you show them the same.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Thing something different.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I'm with that, but I you know it. I'm just
saying I would not want to have to go play it.
I would not want to play a team three times
in a year.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I just wouldn't, especially one where you lost the first
one and how you lost it the second one. You're
probably playing their backups and you need to win it
you tire your guys.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Out and then you got to turn around it.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, Steven rules, he's gonna answer for these crimes, crimes
against bone Nicks. C.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I'll right his back, we'll take the case to court.
We'll figure this out. Broucus Country Night rules out of
this
We didn't get a text here from the three to five,
and I'll get to that one here in just a minute.
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
I was actually gonna bring that up and say who
is in the lead.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Amongst the people that are eligible for that, and not
merely for myself for self serving purposes, as I have
been known to do at times. So I've had that
on my screen and then it just dumped on me.
So give me just a second as I try to
pull that up the lead aboard here so we could
look at who amongst the eligibles I should say, are
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eligible for this. And it looks like right now that
listener Paul Welch has a one game lead on listeners
David Zeeman, David Lavalley, and Doug Moss right now for
the grand prize.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So those are the big four right there.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Uh, as far as that kind of stuff goes, Jose
Archiletta is is one game back of the three d's
there as well. Paul Elch just one hundred and thirty
nine correct on the season, so he is out in front.
We're going after the Ka Commas Ferreld hotline and.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Bring on our guy Tim Jenkins. Tim, how you doing
this evening?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I'm right here. You know.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
It's another day, another dollar, That's how it goes. I
saw you out there showcasing new hats. Is there is
there new merchandise coming to Jenkins lead?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Buddy? Don't you get me going?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
You know, pardon me the thing do?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I want to put it out there on Twitter, but I'll.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
See it because you know, I gotta I gotta take
care of you.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I got to get you about I gotta get you
a dozen so you can rotate through them because I
know you wear them out, so you know, we'll get
you taken care of. But yeah, we've got a couple
of new hats coming out. I'm so to let people
decide what's cool, because you know how it is. He
you start getting a little bit older, you lose the
eye for it.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I'm starting to think, so it's cool, and people are
telling me that's that's the opposite, right, I'm wearing the
mid high socks and people don't like it. Yeah. To me,
it's like, hey, well I'm old enough now to not
care anymore. But the year you do want people to like.
So we're starting to let people vote on them.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
There you go, Well, that's that's probably a smarter a
smarter movie. Yeah I do.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I still have my original Jenkins Elite hat.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It used to be white.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Now it's kind of a khaki, a permanent khaki color
maybe a lot around, more like an alarm mill coffee color.
It's picked up some turtle, it's picked us some wear
tear over the years, But I still I still love
my original Jenkins Elite hat. I'll be rocking that for now.
But you know, the long sleeve T I could use
like a white long sleep.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
I'm just putting out there.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
If you don't like it, send it right back, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And speaking of sending it right back, man, the Denver
Ruckles defense was doing that to Jameis Winston here on
Monday Night football, sending it right back return to center
Nick Bonito house in one. Uh yet everybody getting in
on the I in T party, j Kwa McMillan getting
in there, and then Cody part and there at the end.
Us is a quarterback who you know has thrown an
interception or two in his time. How does one how
(03:07):
does one recover from having an interception party?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, so first and foremost, we were having a staff
call today and everyone pretty much pretty much you n amis,
it was like that was the perfect representation of Jameis
Winston right, like he's throwing for like four something touchdowns
a bunch of pick sixes. To me, My favorite part though,
is that he's getting up on the podium and he's
he's asking Jesus please deliver me from these pick sixes,
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right like not working it, I mean I love it.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I'm not working the other guy I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, I'm just like, I'm a huge fan of it.
How you bounce back? Like, listen, I don't think I
don't think a guy like Jamis How do I phrase
this correctly? I don't think a guy like Jamis does?
I think that's I think that's Jameis Winston, right, I
think that is who you when you're putting him under center,
that's who you're getting, which is there are going to
(04:01):
be risks taken with the football. With that being said,
they are also going to be big plays, right, Like,
I think anyone watching the Browns the last few weeks
has quickly realized if they don't play an absolute you know,
a great term, not a not a tremendous human being. Apparently,
(04:21):
how granted justice, you got to play it out. If
they didn't play.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Pay him, play him, play him, and pay him so
much money, they're.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Probably a way more competitive football team with Jameis Winston
under center, right like we I think a lot of
people saw the Browns coming to town with their record
and they thought that Broncos are just gonna walk over them,
like that's a watching them play, that's a drastically different
football team than you when you watch the Raiders play, right,
the Raiders are, they're done, the coach is done. You
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can just tell, you can kind of see it and
them and Grant, they gave Kansas City a good game,
but you can see it in them.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
If you get them down early, what happens. The Browns
aren't that, and they're not going to be that.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
As long as they have James Winston aren't. To me,
it's like, I don't know, I I think you don't
really solve that for him.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
And then also you look at it and you go
and I and I and I know you know.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Riley was out, but you sit there and you go, man,
the Broncos defense is a good defense, and they came
in here and they made the big plays. Obviously you've
got Jerry Judy who wants to have a big game.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
But to me, it's like, you know, I think that's
more or less what you get with jamis you got
to you gotta love the defense.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Stepped up in really big moments, which is you're gonna
have to be able to win football games like that
where the defense isn't always bailing out on offense and
we can kind of return the favor. I think it
was good to see the Broncos win in another way
compared to what we've seen where it's you know, complimentary
on the offensive side and the defense is really the
one stepping up. Where now it's like, okay, hey, we
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had a game where you know, we had to score
forty to win and we did it. I think that
really makes you feel even better about this Broncos team.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
You know, Tim, even though statistically both did not kind
of light things up, we did have is a moment.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Obviously explosive plays.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Well when you look at the game on Monday and
just that game only in judge it by itself, Well,
what did you see and what did you come away
from the game with?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, I think Sean hearing Sean kind of I want
to say, take accountability over that last interception, I think
is pretty honest from his standpoint, because you're sitting there
and it's like, we've got two options on this route
this concept. We can either throw that kind of bender,
that kind of deep over, or we can throw the
home run post safety jumps the deep over like of course, yeah,
(06:34):
we're gonna throw it deep out. The fifty to fifty
guy you're throwing through is mims not a fifty to
fifty guy, right.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
We want him more open with his speed, not necessarily like, hey,
here's a jump ball, right.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So to me, it's I thought that one you kind
of isolate you look at the other pick. To me,
it's like, hey, that ball gets batted up. I think
we need to fight down hill a little bit more
as a receiver. I think we need to be friendly
on the endcut. There's some to me, those are the
two where I'm like, I don't want to say I
don't care, but those makes more sense to me than
maybe that one. I don't know if you guys remember
he scrambling around and he like throws it up near
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the sideline in the red zone, Like, those are the
ones that I think are more concerning to me. But
I think overall, like you.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Know that stick route that he threw where the dtackle.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Drops underneath it and he throws it outside shoulder like
you you know, it's hard to explain.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I always feel like, you know, people that aren't familiar.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
With the game, it's so hard to explain how limited
your vision is over the middle.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Like how much you actually don't see and you're trusting
all your reps and the fact that he either recognized
the look and knew that Detackle was spot.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Dropping or somehow located him. Like, to me, that's a
big time play. No one gets excited about it because
it's a twelve yard gain and it was a six
yard yack on just a six yard ball. But those
are the kind of things that to me, keep the
chains moving, keep this offensifficient to where when you look
at playing meaningful football in December and January, like the
Broncos are doing act exciting to me that we're making
(08:01):
those kind of plays. I think you know, to be honest,
I thought you played a heck a lot better game
than the stat line indicated. But I do think like
there's a lot to learn from from putting the ball
in harm's way as we start playing against teams that
you know one or two mistakes is gonna end up
costing us the game.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Talk with Tim Jenkins at T Jenkins E leade Tim,
and let's talk about exciting plays. The fans do get
excited about the ninety three yard touchdown over forty air
yards to Marvin Maams and you could read it the
whole way. I mean, you could see right off the
bat they were in inverted too. How did you like
bo reading that one and the placement on the ball there.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, I mean that was big time. And you know,
me been with the air yards. I was getting fired
up early in the season. I was telling the nerves,
don't worry about the air yards. They're coming, you know,
because the thing is, like, you guys know, I don't.
I can't figure out those dang advanced stats. So to me,
it's like, rather than try to learn them, I'm just
gonna yell at it right, like an old guy yell
at the cloud. So the air yards, to me, I
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like you kind of knew they were coming. He was
a great ball thrower, I think throughout his whole career.
What I tell you, though, is like, dude, what a
ball the inverted to Like you said, where they were
kind of kicking that corner back and they were dropping
that safety down. You would think that safety you know nothing.
He's responsible for running the middle right because the backer is,
but you would think that there's times where you see
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that guy come screaming down to be that hook curl
defender or that hook defender and he like contacts that
middle read right. You see where it's like it's unintentional,
but it slows it up, whether it's true contact or
a foot pattern. So the fact that we ran right
through there and then he just ripped a bullet and
you're backed up right, so you're dropping more or less
into your end zone. And that's as good as it get.
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And I love seeing Sean Payton aggressive with the call
when you're in the coming out situation because that's tough.
Usually you know you're more thinking.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Hey, one or two first downs, we punt, we changed
field position back right, But.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I mean a big play that was huge. I think
we had a couple of just to me, the one
where they're in kind of a dash path where he
flash fakes and he sprints out and he hits Courtland
Sutton on the deep over. I love that one because
the concept they had was really designed to go to
like we called it a sale house right where you
try to run that corner you take like you run
the corner and then you take it vertical.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It's designed to go to that.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Well.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Cleveland had great coverage on it.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
And then he gets to his backside progression with Sutton
run the deep over, and I think Sutton looks to me,
he looks as good as he's looked since I've really
started covering the Broncos the last few years. It looks like,
I mean, I can't blame him right for not being
energized with some of the guys that've been thrown to him.
But now I've got a dude throwing through him and
he's playing meaningful football, like he looks to me back
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to where he was at earlier in his career, and
I just think, man, I'm excited. I think the Broncos.
I think they're a team that can really make a run.
I think people aren't taking them as seriously as they should.
I still think the national narrative isn't what it is here.
I think here we can start to see how such
special this team is. I think nationally people still feel
like there's this huge gap between the top teams in
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the Broncos, and I just don't feel like that because
I see different ways that this team can sneak. You know,
stay stick around and stay competitive, and.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Then if you can do that, you see, like the
Kansas City game.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Right we're one field goal block away from beating them.
And then you look at it too, like you know, Baltimore,
you really look at how that game shook out, and
it's like, granted, we got our butts kicked, but you're
on the road and you're kind of like, man, if
these two or three plays go different, this seems a
heck of a lot more competitive going into halftime, and
then I don't think it turns into a route.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I think they're a lot closer than people give the
credit give them credit for. And I think, you know,
some of those big plays like you talked about, are
part of the reason.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
Before you came on, Ben.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
And I were talking about the college football rankings that
came out last night, and you know, they have Georgia,
who's kind of been like up and down, they're back
at five. And for me, I know Ben said a
while back, you know, he was talking about Carson Beck.
I want to get your take on it, and for me,
I see Carson a certain way, not because I'm on
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the Georgia said, and he currently attends youga, but I
just I just want your professional take on cars and
beg because the kid is so up and down, and
luckily Georgia has a lot of talent that could they
can overcome a lot of his mistakes.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah, I mean, man, so first and foremost the Coast
Football Playoffs. In me, I'm so pumped up to see
how it shakes out because at different weeks, I'm like
looking at the bracket and I'm thinking of myself, the
five seed might be the best arm seed in the tournament, right,
you might? You might like you might have two great
opportunities before you play another power five. And granted, who
knows Bois can stay could steak up and beat somebody,
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but I think Boise I almost want to see that
second round game be a home playoff game too, right,
because it's like that to me would be interesting. You
got a home playoff game, then those by guys get
the bye week guys get another home playoff game, because
I'd love to see, like, you know, I'd love to
see like a Vama or a Georgia, like you're saying,
have to travel the boys the Idaho. You know, I
just think that'd be exciting. But Carson Beck, so here's
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what I tell you. I think if you'd have told
me last year, two years ago, hey, how long he's
been in college, all that stuff, I probably would have
thought that was a knob. Seeing what Bo's doing I
think actually helps Carson's case because Bo had so many
darn college starts and you kind of come in. It
seems like the NFL not as big of an adjustment
as is for some of these guys who didn't have
as many college starts. So I think that plays the
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Carson backs advantage. You know as a scene in Moneyball,
right where they say, hey, he's got an ugly girlfriend,
They go, hey, what does that mean? No confidence? Right? Well,
he did want to have a lyricic, so you got
to think, hey, he's got a little bit of confidence. Right,
that's a good thing for him.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
But I think, like ultimately some of these SEC quarterbacks, Nick,
I just think the truth is you can't tell.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Like you turn on his tape, you're not going to
see a bunch of tight window, big time froze. And
it's hard. Do you penalize the kid because he's got
a receiver outside who creates a ton of separation, or
do you you know, hey, say hey, so many.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Throw Like I think he's a tough eval.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
His physical traits aren't nearly good enough to where I
think an NFL team's going to actually get in trouble
taking him, so to me, I look at him as
one of those guys who I think you've end up
going so late from a positional value standpoint that you
could probably take him because it's not like you're having
to trade up and take him in the top three, right, Like,
you know, I think that's where teams can really find it.
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I mean, listen, shoot, look at san Fran. If Sam
Fran doesn't look out and snag and Brock Purdy at
the end, you know, John Lynchon doesn't have a job
anymore because he the he traded everything for Trey Lance,
who now.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Can't even be out Cooper Rush, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
So to me, it's like, I think he's a safe
pick because just you know, I haven't seen him get
run up the draft board yet.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Now listen, if you were like, hey, is he a
top ten pick, I'd say no shot.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
But if you're sitting there and you're saying, you know,
can you get him later? I think there's an argument
to be had, And I think a lot of it's
based on what I think we're seeing from some of
these more experienced college guys they finally get the rains
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, I think there's something to getting your reps, or
at least the pendulum swinging back to that, rather than
drafting these guys that are uber young, like you know,
like Trey Lance or Anthony Richardson that that are they're
super super young and raw. Uh, and then they get
guys in trouble that are trying to develop them. Because
if you're trying to develop a guy while you develop
them for the next.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Guy, oh yeah, there's no doubt. That's that thing that's
crazy about it. Right if you sit there and you
go and then you know, you guys know that the
pressure from not only the fan base but probably everyone
to play these guys early, right, and then you sit
there and it's it's just hard. I think, you know,
I just think it's it's hard right now it's not
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a developmental business.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
And the sad you know, not you know my joapbox,
but the sad thing I.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Think for quarterback play is we're starting to see it
not be a developmental business at the college level too. Right,
You're we're seeing more portal quarterbacks and we're seeing take
them out of high school, give them a year in
your system. Right, we're seeing that, and you know, the
day to day business that I'm running. It's like you're
seeing it way more where if you're not a top
fifty kid, you're not getting a real major D one offer.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
We have kids that, to me, are better than kids
we've had that are e leade eleven kids got offered
by every SEC school coming out of Colorado. I've got
kids better than that that are going to the SCS
level now.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
And it's just because you know, hey, sorry, we're taking
these these portal kids because guess what, if we don't win,
we're out. And I can't wait for this, you know,
seventeen year old kid to develop. So to me, it's
gonna be interesting to see what happens with quarterbacks. What
I'm fearful of is we continue down this path of
kind of every level is not developmental, and then we'll
just keep seeing what we see, which is there's ten
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probably quarterbacks you can win with. Then there's another twenty
that you have to pay as if you could win
with them, and it just creates this situation where you're
paying a guy who you probably can't win strictly because
of him, but you're paying him sixty million dollars so
you got no more cap spake with. And then you're
just you can't go and do it.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
You know, like there's not that many Josh Allen's blocking
around where it seems more or less like you can
kind of get rid of some pieces, pay him and
he's gonna be okay.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Right, there's not that many dudes, and there's a lot
of guys like you know. I don't want to throw
any shade at Kirk Cousins because I think he's a
heck of a quarterback, but when you talk about it
from where you have to pay him market wise, the
conversation's just tough.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Well, Tim, Well, appreciate it as always.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Look forward to chat with you again here soon and
bitcoin top to Hunter care tonight.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I hope you got a little bit coin there, buddy.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I should I shouldn't have turned down that guy. He
tried to pay me a bitcoin when I first storry.
Keep grinding.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
We gotta keep grinding here. We got to hit a
commercial break. We'll be back Broncos Country to night after this.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Five six nine years of the text.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I got a text earlier from station from Utah and
I wanted to reference the center as We'll let you
guys know that I'm out here still listening loving what
you guys are doing. They put a restriction on our
cell phones where I work, so I can no longer
text and tell my lunch break. But I love listening
to you guys. Thank you for keeping me entertaining and
increasing my knowledge of for Bully each and every night
that were Broncos for life. Stacy, I'm gonna need you
to get ahold of your boss and you're gonna have
(18:06):
to tell him that. Nick Ferguson says you should have
your cell phone allowed, however you want, whatever you want
to be able to text into this show.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I don't care what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
And oh, by the way, he owes you a race
you tell a Benjamin all Bright Dick Ferguson said that,
and if he doesn't like that, he can address all
complaints directly to only Nick Ferguson and telling.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
Him to take those TPS reports and shove it there
you go.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, take those TPS reports and shove it Stacy from
Utah's boss, absolutely ridiculous. By Friday three to six, Away
Sports Broncos cheerleaders, former Broncos Ryan Harris, David Bruton, Junior,
be Verizon, the Cherry Creek Mall.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
You fumbled your Phone's time for a new one. Verison's
the best place to get a new one Friday. Enter
a while you're there.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
It's what a pair of Broncos Chiefs tickets from Verizon,
the official five G network of.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
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Speaker 8 (18:54):
Deontay Johnson has received a one game suspension from the
Baltimore Ravens after refusing to enter the game against the
Philadelphia Eagles. Is this the end of Deontay Johnson as
we know it in the NFL? Or is he gonna
get get another shot elsewhere? I'd say somebody he was
desperate enough to give one more crack at it. Yeah,
you know, desperation breeds fools of us, all right, keep
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going back to the well and do it stuff like that.
Deondrea Johnson.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I think it's the end of him as a starting
caliber receiver. I mean, unless he happens to fall, you know,
get on with a team that has a bunch of injuries.
I think what we're getting at is a reclamation project
that probably doesn't pan out. And what I was talking
to Nick about earlier, what a testament to Mike Tomlin
for all these headcase receivers that he's put up with
over the years. Manuel Sanders might be the least default receiver.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Mike Thomas put up a bunch of more Tamos, Brian Chase, Claypool,
Antonio Brown, like Wallace, Mike Wallace, you get.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Deontay Johnson, all these guys that he's gotten production out
of it, managed to make work before they go elsewhere
and flame out. So in my opinion, it's the end
of him as a viable fantas c and or production guy.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
But he's probably stick around the league little bit.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
No, no, no, The answer to that question is absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
And like I told Ben, if you can't usually people
say if you can't make it in New York, you
can make it anywhere else, But if you.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
Can't make it in Pittsburgh, you can't make it anywhere else.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Because Mike Tomlin is just that type of coach that
you go from Pittsburgh to Carolina to now Baltimore and
now you're being suspended because guess what they wanted you
to go in the game and you said no, no,
that's not part of it. This is not Anthony Richardson. Well,
I'm gonna tap out because I'm tired. No things have
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reached a tipping point. And they always say you got
three strikes. This is three strikes for Deontae. So if
I'm any other team, I'm not gonna worry about the headache.
I'm gonna go into the draft and get a younger player.
Speaker 8 (20:50):
Two Prevor Lawrence suffered a pretty nasty hit from disease
Outshi Yere in Sunday's game, resulting in a three game
suspension for his ease outside al Shire.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
He appealed that.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
Dispension, but it has been upheld by the league. Is
the NFL doing enough to protect its players?
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I mean, look, I didn't like to hit necessarily, but
I also think that Trevor does shoulder some of the blame.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
These quarterbacks are not getting into that slide fast enough.
You know, we saw it. I think it was Kenny
Pickett back in college. You put the fake slide on
and they outlawed that.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
You've gotta you know, you gotta make it to where
quarterbacks have as show intent to slide, otherwise they're considered
an open field runner. It's it's not fair to defenders
who are trying to figure this out. And I empathize
with uh with the ziz Al shay here a little
bit on that. But then on the flip side of that,
he's handled that about his as worse as he possibly
could using social media. I don't know if y'all saw
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the tweet where he said he's making himself out there
that people are talking about you want me to be
the villain, I'll be the villain and posted a picture
of Joaquin Phoenix as a.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Joker and all that kind of stuff. You know, He's
he's the handle this about as poorly as possible. I think, well,
for me, this is a.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Much bigger topic that we can get into tomorrow. But no,
I don't think that the league is doing enough to
protect all of his players. Some yes, but not all.
Speaker 8 (22:19):
Sorry, all right, Josh Allen now the heavy heavy favorite
to become NFL MVP at minus two to twenty five odds,
Saquon coming in at number two at plus three p
fifty and then Lamar Jackson coming up third at plus
nine hundred. Do you think someone else belongs in that
top three?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
And if not, is that top three in the right
order right now? Oh man, it's a good question, I think,
Lamar to me, I think Lamar.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Is gonna win it if Baltimore, you know, they've had
a couple of stumbles, but I think he turns it around.
The voters have shown u susceptibility, although it could be fatigued,
they vote for him. Josh Allen, I don't know statistically,
I mean, he's in the ballpark there.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Saquan, I don't know he keeps it up.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I mean you're asking him in the last quarter of
the season to keep up at a remarkable.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Productivity streak for a running back. It's tough to do.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
One of the players, I think that probably belongs to
the conversation, and much to your chagrin their young seekers
is Russell Wilson. Look at what he's done so far
and what he's turned Pittsburgh into. I think he belongs
probably in that conversation somewhere. Does I think he'd get it.
Probably not, but certainly in that conversation. And that's probably
the big three. I mean, Derek Henry was in that
conversation a little bit. There was a couple of receivers
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that were in that conversation a little bit, but it
probably probably those three.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Now, both of you guys are absolutely wrong with these
players on this particular list. And I'm sure you know
Brent Smith, if he was here, he would definitely give
me a hooda because it's Joe Burrow just happens that
his defense can't stop and thosebleed.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Because he leads the league in yards, he leads the.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
League to touch down to interception ratio with thirty toutdowns
and five interceptions. His stats are off the charts, you know,
much better than Josh Allen. But people are not going
to talk about him because his team is just trying
to get into the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
But Joe Burrow should be the MVP of the.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
League and he's not even a George Pickens merchant for.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
All right.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
Christian McCaffrey commented on his injury on the forty nine
ers cursed season, saying, when it rains it course, do
you think this is just an unlucky curse season from
the forty nine ers and Christian McCaffrey, or do you
think this is maybe the beginning of the end?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I mean, I don't believe it curses, but unlucky sure,
I mean, you know that's one of those things that
I mean, it happens.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
They've had relatively good health.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Luck For other seasons, it sort of happens, and a
lot of times it happens post Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
You look at teams post super Bowl, they have it
down here.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Look at the Niners the last time post Super Bowl
lost that they had banned down here. I don't you
know all this stuff where you get people and it's
hilarious watching San Francisco media people and fans melt down
saying fire Kyle Shannon.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
Please do, please do.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
The last time you got fired a successful coach, you
wound up with Jim, Tom Sulla and Chip Kelly.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
Please fire Kyle.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Shannan, who will have a job before he leaves the
office to pick up his resign his firing papers, We'll
have a job head coaching somewhere else, probably in the division,
probably smoking you over.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
And over again.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Well here's what I think. This is the case of
the football life actually catching up with you.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Everyone has someone a window. And San Francisco has been
great for a certain.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Amount of time.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
I mean they were not great when I was coaching there,
but once I left, they just became this team, this
hot team and them there.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
Yeah yeah, so but right now that's what things are
starting to catch up with. This is why Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Kansas City is starting to realize their window that they
thought was open with Patrick Mahomes is now starting to close.
So this is what's happening in the San Francisco forty
nine ers. Dude, I think the dynasty is over for them.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
No, they just got to get in.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
They have to get healthy, go back to new draft,
get better on defensive side of the ball, and they'll
be right back in the mix.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Five.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
The Ringer has moved bo Nicks up to number twenty
nine on its NFL quarterback rankings list, but he's notably
still behind Drake May, Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, Justin Fields,
and some.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Other questionable quarterbacks.
Speaker 8 (26:20):
Where do you think bo Knicks ranks so far among
the league's starting quarterbacks, and where do you think he
ranks among the league's rookie quarterbacks?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Where do they have? They have what twenty nine twenty nine?
Speaker 8 (26:30):
If I think they have like thirty eight, They've got
some backups in there.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
He's still currently behind again a backup in Justin Fields.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, that's absurd. I'm not saying he needs to be
in the top half of the league. I probably put
him by twenty but twenty.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Nine, like, who's he?
Speaker 5 (26:47):
You?
Speaker 7 (26:47):
You know some name seas but you.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Just mentioned Fields, which is stupid.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Field should not be in the top thirty, much of
the top fifty, let alone the top thirty.
Speaker 8 (26:53):
Anthony Richardson's another one again.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Old Anthony Richardson is a forty seven percent completion percentage.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
That's it's questionable.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
And Aaron Rodgers ahead of him.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
He's all the way up at fifteen, which I thought
was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I would not have Rodgers ahead of him this season.
Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Ahead of him, Russell Wilson's definitely would definitely Derek car
ahead of him.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Russell Wilson's at twenty four.
Speaker 8 (27:15):
Behind Williams, Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 7 (27:18):
Fourth in the league and adjusted net yards for a.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Tenth what twenty four and then you've got a wins
in this list. Stephen Ruiz looking for the show for tomorrow.
We're gonna make fartest clown.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
Whoa, whoa. I don't know if you're gonna come on
the show. You called him Stephen Ruiz the circus.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Well he is.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
What I'll say, statistically, when you look at both nakes
as far as his yards, he is ranked eleven in
the NFL. When he comes to some of those rookie quarterbacks,
like you asked that, you know, where was where would
I rank him?
Speaker 7 (27:53):
Right now?
Speaker 5 (27:53):
He's at the second to Jayane Daniels based on what
Jane Dunn Daniels is done as both as passer and
a running quarterback. So we'll we'll see. This is a
great thing about this part of the year. We get
a chance to see what thing is gonna look like.
Who's gonna win those final games, those pivotal games, especially
if you watched it and you're the Denver Broncos. That's
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going to be the tail of to take for us.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Six Now, book book that do, Book that do.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
For tomorrow, we're gonna find agree that. But Steven Ruis,
we're gonna book this guy for tomorrow and make an
answer for twenty ninth. Just twenty Nields is ahead of
Okay and Jamis and Sam Darnold.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
Interest your list of criterions, Yeah, yeah, he has a
whole rubric and he scores them all and everything.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Your formula somehow puts justin Fields ahead of Bononix. It's
your formula that's flawed. I would tend to agree. I'm
not going to defend the guy. I would tend to agree.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
Last one for you guys here, ESPN right now gives
the Broncos a seventy five percent chance of making the
NFL playoffs. Which realist opponent do you most want to
see in that wild card round?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
And who are you hoping the Broncos dodge? Well, you're
hoping they dodge Buffalo. You hope they dodge. You're hoping
they dodge Buffalo. Who do I want to see?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
You want to see either Kansas City, Pittsburgh or Houston
because those are the teams you match up really well against.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
You want to avoid the.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Chargers, Ravens or Bills because those are the teams you
don't match up very well with.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Yeah, I'll agree right now. If the playoffs started to day,
you are taking a trip back to Buffalo. To Buffalo
to play the Buffalo Bills. The last time the Broncos
were there they actually won. But I'm sure this would
be a great game because you get the young guy
and bo Nick's playing against the veteran guy who's had
his troubles early on in negative criticism and Josh Allen
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then you had bon Miller playing against the different Broncos.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Jamen Virgue, who was once the Broncos wide receiver on
bo was out with the Buffalo Bills some yet for
that one. But if we can't avoid them.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Freaking avoid them, I think if we're wanting a revenge game, though,
I think everybody's circling Pittsburgh right now. Russ is cooking.
I think everybody's circling that one. I don't know if
you want that right now, but I don't think we do.
But I think of the teams, I think we match
up better with Pittsburgh than we do against than we
do the Buffalo.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
But I'll say, if.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
There is they got malato back now, Yes, if there's
a polly that you say you want to face, it
is Kansas City.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Because let's be Tellianni.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
They got a horseshoe and it is crammed so far
off the backside.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
Right now, that horseshoe is starting to show a rabbit.
He's got a horseshoe. Monkey's Paul. They got all all these.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, all of them, They got all these things going
on right now. I think they're the most beatable. I mean,
they're they're eleven to.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
One, and you got to give respect for for who
they are, what they are, what they accomplished, and Pat
Mahomes and all that. But they have been getting by
on some games this year and you figure they're due,
I mean, especially revenge for the field goal.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
But this is why the last game of the season
is going to be all important for the Denver Broncols,
when they play their starters or not.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
But that's the reason you don't want Kansas City, right
because last game of the season, they're not gonna play
their starters. There's gotta scout, you know, on what you're
what you're doing, and then you're gonna go right back
and play them again.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
That's a great thing of being a coach. You learn
to adjust.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Right.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
You run things against Kansas City Spagnola season, the next week,
you show them the same.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Thing something different.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I'm with that, but I you know it. I'm just
saying I would not want to have to go play it.
I would not want to play a team three times
in a year.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I just wouldn't, especially one where you lost the first
one and how you lost it the second one. You're
probably playing their backups and you need to win it
you tire your guys.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Out and then you got to turn around it.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, Steven rules, he's gonna answer for these crimes, crimes
against bone Nicks. C.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I'll right his back, we'll take the case to court.
We'll figure this out. Broucus Country Night rules out of
this
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