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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You can never tell the can never ever talk about
anything during the break ever.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
But you know what, that's sad because so much stuff
happens during the break the show.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
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Speaker 2 (02:39):
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how we know whether you officially or not.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
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Speaker 1 (02:45):
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don't have different color texts for different We don't try
to single people out.
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and I don't have weird colored text messages in there that.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
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group that we're not. We're not being inclusive of Notice
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Speaker 4 (03:15):
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Speaker 2 (03:23):
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can with your Hey hey, Zach, he saw step that
like he was James Harden traveling.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
That's what he did with the sad step. Yes, I
can't see me doing the face. What are you doing?
He saw me and face? I'm like, you know, we
all run with the James.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I can't see you like what James Hart's is called
for a foal he face that's like he has two faces,
the ones like the irritated face and then he's got
the who me face.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I was doing the James Hart like me. Really, I mean,
he could have agreed to he could have tackled someone
on the basketball court, he still said, who me. I
don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Anyway, five six year olds text lines speaking, we talked
a little bit of hardware in the last last day.
We got some mother hard his award season, as it were,
fash Jane potentially in the Heisman race. Uh, you got
Travis Hunter, who should be at the top of the
list there Heisman voternick Er.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I'm just why are you giving giving me that look
when you say that, you know whoever else you think
should be in that race.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Bryson Daily, the quarterback of Army, who you know has
basically as many touchdowns as Ashton Jany.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I'm just I'm just saying, if you wanted to slide
his name in there, third man.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Listen, I'm here for all of it, right, I'm here
to listen and absorb.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I'm just saying, you know, a quality, what a great
story with me?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
If you put a deserving kid from Army there and
the Heisman, maybe at the third maybe he doesn't win it,
but maybe he's up there, you know, being there with
the other elite players, knowing he's gonna go serve our
country overseas.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
How are you on Patriot? Well, you know what, hey,
he is a great thing about the Heisman.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
There's so many talented collegiate players who are well deserving
of the particular award. We would just have to wait
until the wards ceremony and see which one of those
guys take home the most competed award in college football.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Can't do that. I'm like J. G. Wentworth, I want
to know what I want to know now it's my money.
I want to know.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, there's voters spread out across this country who they
all have their different view. But I'll say this as
it pertains to Boise running back Asson Gent. I mean,
he has definitely accomplished a lot. And you know, when
you look at the college football rankings, you can just
kind of tell how people look at the you know,
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Mountain West and not really give them a lot of credit.
But I get the kid a lot of credit. He
is the entire offense for Boise. And I would say
this if Ashton Gents played for any team and the SEC,
it would be without any question. No one would have
any questions whether he should be in New York at
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the ceremony, No questions at all.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But when he has the same numbers, I mean, yes,
a little bit World or Alabama. Wait wait wait wait, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So here's why some individuals give Alabama or SEC schools
a lot of credit because they're great as far as
being better on both sides of the ball. Uh And
if you if Aston Jensen was playing for an SEC school,
he would have a better offensive line, he would have
superior skilled players around in which would therefore open up
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more opportunities.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
But defense, that's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Look, he is the bell cow for for Boise. But
if you were to put him, let's just say, if
you put him in the backfield when Steve starkeys in
with the Texas Longhorns, how many yards do you think.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
He would have? I think you have fewer yards and
more touchdowns. Fewer yards and more touchdowns. He wouldn't be
he wouldn't be used as much as he is, like
he is a Bois because he is the offensive Boise.
He'd be a part of the offense of Texas.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
But then he'll still be in a conversation because he
would have more rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, I mean I think that's what I said. I
think he'd have more touchdowns than fewer yards.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Okay, so let's just say if he had only rushed
for fifteen one hundred yards and he had like, I don't.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Know, eighteen touchdowns, he's still in the conversation. Okay, he's
still wild be in the Heidstan conversation. Well, how many
touchdowns he have right now? He's like twenty something done,
twenty eight I think something like that. Yeah, so I
think's gonna be closer to like forty five touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Forty touch you know, I mean, it would be an
absurd to be It would seem like it would be
an absurd number that he would have.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
So what if he were on the team like, let
me see Michigan or Ohio State. Right, we know how
those teams loved thrown the ball, and we know the
staple of those big ten teams are the fact that
they had big offensive linemen. I still think that he
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would be a monster in those types of leagues.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Last time a running back was was this high up
in the Heisman voting? When was that was what Deren
McFadden six o seven when he was runner up both years.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
No, I mean, what wouldn't you say?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I think yeah, And Christian McCaffrey was runner up that
year they had the one in two.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Okay, yeah, but well, once again what happened with McCaffrey, right,
There was a lot of bias because that whole pack
twelve after Dark actually suck and hurt his chances because
the voters on the East Coast didn't really see Kristen play.
Was they should have stayed up to watch him play,
but they all fell asleep, which tells me that maybe
some of those guys are a little too long in
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the tooth.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, he fallen asleep by ten o'clock. You said mark Ingram.
Get I forgot about that mark Ingram you know. Nine.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, dere McFadden was to run her up to uh,
Troy Smith and Tim Tebow back to back years, and
the Troy Smith one I don't think was that close,
which was funny because it felt like that one should
have been closer because he had like ninety percent of
the vote or.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Something like that. I think it was when out of Ohio.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
State if I remember correctly, and I could be wrong.
On that, but I think I'm right. And then a
lot of people are thinking that Travis Hunter may break
Joe Burrow's margin of victory, the ninety three percent that
he had. A lot of people are thinking that Travis
Hutter may break that we could with Janty. I mean, like,
what is it that we're basing it on? Just dish
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the sheer numbers. He's averaging one hundred and ninety point
seven yards per game and he had twenty eight touchdowns
over the course.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Oh okay, what I'm basing it on the Aks receiving touchdowns?
It's the talent of the player alone.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And I don't want to discredit or invalidate the coaches
or the offensive line that plays for Boise.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Obviously they block for Russia.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Who's rushed for almost, you know, twenty three hundred yards,
So there is some something to be said for that.
But I still would say if he was behind what
we consider to be a better offensive line, his numbers
could be so much better than what they are.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I'm not a posed to that. I mean, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And this is where I start making the case for
Bryson Daily for real, actually, because Bryson Daily's played two
fewer games at Ashton Jant and has three fewer touchdowns
on the season rushing.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
That doesn't include the passing or any of that kind
of stuff, just the rushing.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
He's played two fewer games and has three fewer touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
So once again, I think the bigger question is in
the conversation is how much of.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I they are one and two in NCAA, by the way,
in rushing to Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Well, how much of the bias against the conference itself
fact through the inns in some of these postseason the world.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I think there is a case for that.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I still believe that Travis Hunter is doing something so
special that it has to be awarded the Heisman, just
because that's my belief. But I can understand the argument
from the other side because the first thing that I'm
gonna say is, Okay, he was running buck wild in
the Mountain West.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, once again, okay, so you discredit the Mountain was
This is why.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I'm not trying to deliberately That's what I can't. Okay,
I give that. With what he did in the Oregon game, right.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Right, you can counter with that book once again, one
hundred and ninety two yards and three touchdowns. Right, and
that was against a top rated.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Team, Yeah, the one team. But then I'm in the
airhouse exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Then the conversation goes back to, well, it wasn't against
the best talent in college football, which now will lead
us back to one conference and one conference only because
if you don't do these things in this particular conference,
which sticks to Mark Crawl that it's like it never happens.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Well, you have that anti SEC bias from Georgia Tech.
I'm an SEC hawk because I came up in that thing.
But I understand the thing because I think that Daily
is going to get docked here because he played for Army,
and I believe he should be in the conversation.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I don't think he should win it. I think it
should go to Travis Hunter.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
But for me, if I had a Heisman ballot, it
really would be Travis Hunter, Ashton Janty Bryson Daily.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It really would be that for me.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Listen and I can understand you're saying that, And that's
not obviously how every voter thinks about it. And once
again it's up to every voter to decide what do
they feel as though they saw all season along in
the consistency and the impact of that particular player to
help them decide where.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
They're going to vote, you know, one, two, and three.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
But there is, in my opinion, some kind of bias
about the player and the conference to what he's playing in.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
And I'm just like, well, that player can't help that.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
But if that's the case, we're going to force so
many talented players to go yes, just to say, you
know what, I only want to go to this particular conference.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
The other part of this is if it were easy
to go for that many yards and that many touchdowns,
of them mount where everybody be doing, nobody else would
be doing it exactly nobody else is doing it right.
So that's that to me, that's the counter to that
he said, I don't believe that he would have the
just staggering numbers that he has if he played an
SEC schedule, But I do believe he would be every
bit as talented as he is. I think he'd have
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more touchdowns. I think he'd probably be closer to forty
because that's the way he would be.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
You. He would be used, he would.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Be fresher in a an ad minimal role as sabmiible role.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
He'd be running the ball.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
You know, eighteen to twenty times a game instead of
thirty to thirty five game.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Okay, all right with that being said, put Ashton jen
Z in Oregon's offense.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Hell, put him in Army's offense.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Then what Well, in Army's offense, he'd be a wing
back and that wouldn't be like the fullback has more yards.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
But if you put him, if you put him in
a quarterback well, I mean put him a quarterback there, Yeah, quarterback,
I think.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I mean, but if you put him on Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
You know you thought to a Texas you put Jashon
Janny on Tennessee, you're talking about a forty touchdown guy.
You know, he probably only has fifteen hundred yards at
that point because he only gets eighteen carries twenty carries
a game. But yeah, maybe even fifty touchdowns because he'd
you know, he'd.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Be used for that role.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
So yeah, it's unfair to judge him on the conference
that he's seen in that regard. I think it's okay
to like say, hey, wait a minute, some of these
numbers probably are a little bit of a byproduct to that.
The fact that you got to play Hawaii and in
Nevada and Sandles a state and you know and player
in teams like okay, and you weren't playing Alabama Georgia fair.
But then also he went for twenty twenty five carries,
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one hundred nineteo yards and three touchdowns against Oregon.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Hey man, that's you know, he's gotta come with something
that's yeah, and that's proven it.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
It's like, like, for instance, with Bryce and Daily, well,
Army didn't play that tough schedule, what do you do
against Notre.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Dame thirty nine carries one hundred and thirty nine yards,
two touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
When they came time to the playoffs, teams see, hey, that
guy showed up, but that line one worse.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
No, So you look at the whole the playoffs, whole
body of work.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Do what did he do against top team teams, ranked teams,
or teams that may have had a top rated defense,
and look at it.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
From that standpoint, he was still saying, I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
It curves you know, where you vote, where you lean,
but at the same time, it is it would be
definitely encouraging to say, oh, this guy's extraordinary, and.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
What would he had done if you were in a more.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Powerful offense that fixated on his side of the ball
and what he does.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Well, that's that's all I'm throwing out there.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And by the way, to put this in perspective, Darren
McFadden who was the runner up at Heisman in six
and seven, right, sixteen hundred yards, fourteen touchdowns, eighteen hundred yards,
sixteen touchdowns and was the runner up for Heisman those
six stud lines, we come back to the NFL six pack.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It's all right, berguson Zach Sever's here with you.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Six nine zeros, six line show within the show, always great,
loving the breaks.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Boss stops by talking about going for it. That was
a great conversation. It was a great conversation. I'm gonna
bring that there sometimes. But it's time the NFL six
pack right now.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Dean Rappaport for Portspixfield fellow check Davis Tarebox. Sorry, m
Rappaport person that Bill Belichick is interviewed for the UNC
head coaching.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Job, and that him taking the job is a real possibility.
That if you see Belichick taking the ball game and
then people style with frames you don't work out.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I feel like if this is keeping Bill Belichick in
the conversation for sure, But I don't believe that Bill
Belichick is tailored for the college game. I mean, you
need a you a guy who's got a glad hand,
a lumps and and work the nil search and all
that kind of stuff. I think that Bill Belichick is
uniquely tailored for the pro game in the same way
that Dionne Sanders is uniquely tailored for the college game.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Well, yeah, I mean this, this is one way to
kind of keep his name out there, like you said,
And really, I don't I don't think Bill Belichick is
built for the college game because what you did with
the college game. You have to be out in front,
in front of boosters, you have to talk to people,
you're shaking hands, and you kiss the bags like a politician.
That doesn't necessarily seem like that is part of who
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he is as an individual. Though it's great to put
on your resume, but I don't think he would fit
to row in Chapel Hill soon keeps his.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Name in the conversation though they already He's already talked
to Arthur Smith and now Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
It this sounds like you had what somebody with an
NFL resume. Two all right, a little smoother.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
This time.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
The Denver Broncos now have strong candidates for Defensive Player
of the Year with Benito and Sertane, Offensive Rookie of
the Year with Foe Nicks, Coach of the Year with
Sean Payton, Assistant Coach of the Year with Vance Joseph,
An Executive of the Year.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
With George Payton. Which award do you think that Denver
Broncos are most likely to take home? I can only
pick one, only one. I'm going to your view to
the fire, that's a good one. I'm gonna go with
Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
You got two guys there that are in contention for it,
so it's kind of a cheap pick, but I think
that there's an opportunity there. I think Benito needs a
better PR team because I think he should be the
front runner right now along with Van Ginkel. But you know,
Sir Tan's got a got a name brand there, so
he's in the conversation as well. Well.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I'm going to go off the bean pad and I'm
going to say is Executive of the Year. Why Because
every single guy on this list that's not named George
Peyton is somewhat embodied within a whole concept of the
executive being able to put guys in place and support
them with other players and give Sean Payton exactly what
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he wanted in bo Nick. So why not George Payton
with Executive of the Year.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Zach Martin's twenty twenty four campaign has come to an
early end as he's set to receive season ending ankle
surgery in the coming weeks.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Is this the last we've seen of Zach Martin the
NFL player? Man, that's a tough question. I hope not.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
He's such a great player, it's alwa's fun to watch
him play. I hope it's not the last we've seen
in him. It might be the last we've seen hi
him in that uniform.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
I hope not. I'll just hope.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Well, his thing when it comes to play as an
NFL the thing that gets you booted out of the league,
inconsistent play, too large of a paycheck, and also too
many damn injuries. So this may be the last time
you see you know, Zach Martin, you know, in the
Cowboys uniform. But for another team would pick him up,
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they would have to have massive injuries themselves. And this
big adversary is his injuries. So his career looks like
he's winding down for.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
The sorry.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Jamis Winston told Cleveland reporters today that he won't let
his turnover prone reputation define him. Do you think we
will ever see Jamis turn over a new leaf and
get better at protecting the football?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I see what you did there. He did. Turnovers are
part of what the Jameis Winston experience. You know, it's
been that way since he was in Tampa.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Like he said, he's that guy, he's Jay Cutler two
point zero, right, and I think he's Uh. I think
he's hilarious because you know a Jay Cutler was like,
I don't care, you know, Jay Cutler, whereas Jameis Winston's
like a player to the Lord to deliver me from
pick sixes.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Look, I I don't know. I don't think so. I
think it's I think you're DNA DNA.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
You know, maybe maybe somehow, But I mean he's even
in an offense that wants to sling it all over
the yard right now, which puts you is gonna make
you more prone to that. I think when he played
for Sean Bayton, he was in an offense it was
more conservative.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Which we see with bo Dix.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
But I think in the offense, he's and he's probably
just gonna be the same guy who's gonna throw for
a ton of yard. It's gonna get you some touchdown,
it's gonna get you some turnovers too, and you hope
the turnovers don't hurt as bad as they did against Dever.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I think this is part of who he is.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Not to say, you know, you know, shame and and
put something on his name, but and he's saying within himself,
he knows that he is created a lot of pick
sixes in his career, so much so he's calling on
the mighty heavens above to help him out.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
And it's lead for me.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
That's a part of who he is in his DNA,
and as long as he's constantly thinking about it, the
chances are he's going to.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Make that play happen five.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
On the Pat McAfee Show this week, Aaron Rodgers said,
if the Jets need five more games to decide whether
or not they want to keep me, then maybe they
don't know what I bring to the table. Do you
think Rogers will be back with the Jets or has
he finally worn out his welcome?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I think he's worn out as welcome. I don't know
if he'll be back with the Jets or not. I mean,
the Jets are probably going to go for somebody who's
previous head coaching experience, and the question is whether or
not they're going to even want him and want Aaron
Rodgers to be there.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I think some people that they look at.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
We mentioned Aaron Glenn earlier, who's the defensive coordinator of
the Lions. He is a history of playing there in
New York. I probably get an interview. I think Mike
Rabel is probably the favorite for that job in New York,
and I can't see Mike Rabel dealing with Aaron Rodgers.
I just can't see that co existing. So I suspect
it will be up to that coach to make that decision.
And I don't think that there's going to be a
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coach that wants to sit there and deal with that.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Well.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I don't even know why Aaron Rodgers is going on
the Pat McAfee show saying that the Jets need five
games are determined. If he's still going to be their quarterback,
then all this kind of loss because he's not even
sure he wants to be the Jets quarterback. So he's
just trying to setting this up to something that we
saw in years fast with Aaron Rodgers well, where he
held the NFL hostage for two seasons as he tried
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to guess what he was going to do.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
So he's just trying to put this out there.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
But I think in the best interest for the Jets
currently and for the future, they just need to part
ways with Aaron Rodgers and just move on.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Six.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
After just one season with the Bruins, the UCLA has
decided to part ways with offensive.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Coordinator Eric the Enemy. His team says he's hoping to.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Look for another coaching job in the NFL. Will he
return to the NFL? And if not, what is going
to be doing nice?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
That's a good question. He's still getting paid by Washington. Yeah,
it's kind of funny because a couple of years ago,
people were, you know, in the out there publicly stating that,
I mean, not having a head coaching job was due
to racism and all this other stuff, And you know,
I had some some background on that situation. Eric b Enemy,
I think is somebody who adds value to a football team.
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I don't think he's a particularly great offensive coordinator. I
don't think he has the temperament to be a head coach,
but you.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Know, that's my opinion on it. Somebody else can have
a different opinion.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I will say that he did poorly in several interviews
and did not sell himself as the guy to run
a franchise, you know, whether or not that whether or
not he actually is or not, he certainly didn't sell
himself as that guy, which is why he wound up with.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Washington and then UCLA.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
The weird part of this to me was the statement
they put out today where they suggested that this was
always the plan. It was a one and done at UCLA,
and he was basically doing to Sean Foster a favor.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
It was.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
It was a really weird, weird statement that was put out.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
That's sort of you know, I'm looking at the I'm like, wait,
you're telling me that the plan was to slum it
for a year and then try to come back and
get a head coaching job in the league. With the
one hundred and seventeenth ranked offense at UCLA, Like, dude, when.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Have you ever led a successful offense on your own? Clause?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
That is, whether the rubber meets are role because in
situations like this, individuals are looking for someone to shoulder
the blame, and in this particular case with UCLA, it
is Eric the enemy. Did the UCLA Bruins underperform offensively?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Absolutely? Was it all on airbandemy shoulders?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
No? I know some are really looking at that based
on the fact of how many interviews he's had and
the conversation about, like you said, Ben not being able
to interview in that capacity. But I do know from
some individuals who have had those coaching interviews it doesn't
really make a difference what you say to the people
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that you're interviewing with because it all depends on what
their percent what they're hearing coming out of your mouth. Right,
And that's not to say that TB is a bad coach.
He's been in some situation where things didn't work out.
I hope he gets another chance that kind of rebuild
his career. But I don't think that this is the
last we would see of AIRBN.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Me well, I don't think it is either. I think
you could see him. You could pop up anywhere. You
could be college or pros.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
I you know, Kansas City's offense hasn't been the same
since he left.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
And it's interesting because I think Kansas City's offense is
Andy Reid and Papa Holmes. But I also think that
Eric the Enemy adds value is he's a hard nosed,
old school guy who demands a lot out of players,
and sometimes you need a guy like that the whole
people accountable. Maybe that guy's not on the staff in
Kansas City right now. Maybe things are slipping through the
cracks and that's why you're seeing an offense that it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Have the same sort of bite that it had when
he was on that staff.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Well, when Eric the Enemy was absent in Washington, I
think either before or after, Patrick Mahomes and tybeek Q
both came out and said some things on his behalf
to kind of validate him as a player.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
And even though sometimes as a player you don't you
may not like a coach and he may.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Not feel you in a certain particular way, but that
doesn't necessarily mean that there's not a great working relationship.
Because I can just tell you this from a player standpoint.
I'm not saying that every relationship with a coach needs
to be spot on, but I want a coach that's
going to push me and almost like a father. I mean,
they may not tell you everything that you want to hear,
but they're gonna tell you what you need to hear.
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And for Eric, you're right. Eric is one of those
old school coaches. I mean, he's not going to sugarcoat it.
Could it be a luter braceist at times, possibly, And
I can tell you this, not every player is cut
from that cloth where they have the ability to deal
with some of the things that the coach is saying.
And for me, I always go back to this man
because I always go back to my own personal experience.
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I didn't like how what things my dad said to
me growing up, but there were things that I need
to hear. I didn't like everything that Bill Parcells said
to me and how he said it, but there were
things that I needed to hear and not sugar coating
it made me a better man.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
It made me a better person as well. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
The Washington Commanders offense was right twenty fifth in the
league in terms of points four They said the league
high water market interceptions.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
And sacks, and they threw the ball entirely too much.
That was the quarterback Sam Howell. They led. They let
the league in.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Passing attempts with Sam Howell at six hundred and twelve
on the season, which to me figures to be a
bit of a mistake versus only their leading rusher Brian
Robinson only one heard and seventy eight rushing attempts. You'd
figure a former running back like the Enemy would favor
the run a little more, but he did not. Look
as far as Eric b Enemy goes, I mean, I
think everybody knows his background. He had a little problematic
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time in his life. He had some problematic stuff in
his background, but he's been mostly past that. I mean,
it's been what a decade a half two decades since
any of that stuff surface. I think people around here
know him for his failed tenure as at offensive coordinator,
see you.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
But you know, it felt like he was an integral
part of that chief staff.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
It did whether or not he was, you know, I mean,
whether or not Andy was running the offense and Pat
Mahomes was executing it. Whatever it was that Eric the
Enemy was bringing to the table. While he was there,
that offense was better, and it dropped off after he left,
it did. I'm not saying that I think that Eric
the Enemy is a great offensive coordinator. He's never led
a successful unit where he was the primary play caller,
but that doesn't mean he doesn't add value somewhere as
a coach.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
And I don't know what he looks like as a
head coach.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
All I've seen is the temperament when he was the
OC ATCU, and then you know, obviously that got when
you when he was in Kansas City. I would say
he got h I don't want to say he got
softer because that sounds bad, but he softened up a
little bit when he went from there, So you know,
maybe he does. I don't know, but it is interesting
to note that a lot of the people who sat
there and you know, and said certain things were the
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reason that he was not getting these jobs. And I
kind of pushed the pause button on that a little bit,
just because you know, I can't I'm not buying that
it's I'm not buying personally that it's racism to kept
there at the enemy from getting a head coaching job,
especially when some of the places he interviewed went to
guys like Tomiko Rance.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Well, I'll say this when I look at the fact
that when I first heard that Eric Vietnamy was joining
the coaching staff for UCLA. I never thought it was
a great fit. I thought it was okay, Sehn Foster
was getting that job. He needed a name that can
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move the needle far as with boosters and recruits and
getting a guy who spent some time in Kansas City
or an NFL as a play caller, whether it's a
running back coach or he was running the show.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
To me, that's why I felt as though that was
something that the reason that they did it. And who
was to say and I'm not there or whatever.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I can make a couple of phone calls, But who
was to say that Eric b Enemy, having a little
more seniority based on experience than Foster, has probably carried
him himself more as a head coach than in the
office of coordinator, and that could have run rubbed Foster
the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's entirely possible.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
You don't we don't really know, you know, in the end,
a lot of uh you know, a lot of the
things for that, But you know, I just found it fascinating.
One and done there at UCLA where he had been
the running backs coach back in what three to five
I think it was uh U c l A, which
I'm not if I'm mistaken, was Foster.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Running back there when he was the coach, you know
what might have been or maybe maybe missed him by
a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I have to go back and because I can't remember.
I know Foster obvious who went there, but I can't
remember if he was when it was that he came
out exactly and was the excuse me as a running
back uh there because I think Vieemy was after him
barely but it was close anyway.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I just thought that was a.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Fascinating story today though in vietne me I do wonder
where he goes next to him, So Broncos country today,
Leedswell Bright, Nick Ferguson, Zach Segers rolls off after this
You can never tell the can never ever talk about
anything during the break ever.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
But you know what, that's sad because so much stuff
happens during the break the show.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Within the show.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
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that is they very concentrate either graphic region or it's
it's fallen on some racial lines. Yeah, we we have
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Okay, I'm sure that our listeners have heard something similar,
maybe not phrase in that particular way. How about that? Well,
is that a possibility because they if they knew, if
I could really say it the.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Way it was said to me, they may get it,
you know, get it.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
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identified everybody who organtically.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
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Speaker 3 (01:31):
Lots of stuff going on there.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I am actually going out there to get a new phone.
So I know I've been talking about it for a
long time and saying I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I'm actually going out there to get a new phone.
Cherry Creek Mall tomorrow between three and six. Seekers looks
suitably impressed back there. I'm proud of you.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I hope you get a good phone finally. Well, you
know it upgrade the Android to another Android. I wouldn't downgrade.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I want to do that to another if that's not
really technically an upgrade, well, I mean this one is
from an Android.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
To and well, we'll go from an iPhone to an iPhone.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
It's not a like when you go from the I
who the fourteen or fifteen, that's an upgrade the Galaxy,
you know, whatever the new Galaxy is or whatever.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
That's probably what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
But those galaxies that won't don't really have any numbers
associated with them to let you know that, hey, it's
actually an upgrade.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
He just says.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Samsung, Well, I mean, because they make a quality phone,
they don't really have to put new numbers on. It's
just a good phone versus iPhone where they got to
keep like you know, throwing fake uh stuff in the
operating systems flow you down, trying to get you to
get the new gimmicks that they're putting out there, which
is something Android.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Had three years ago.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
You guys have USBC chargers, yet you guys have those
now finally install those stupid Apple chargers.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Do you have people that like to text you with
your green text messages?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, yeah, that's fine, But you know what's that that's
how we know whether you officially or not.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Well, that's because my phone, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
But Android's not that we're not phone racists, like we
don't have different color texts for different We don't try
to single people out.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
We're all inclusive here at Android.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I mean, we're just looking for compatibility like you guys.
You guys beliveability. There's your computer work hand in hand
with boone.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I'm going to communicate.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I received text messages show stuff from you guys, just fine,
and I don't have weird colored text messages in there that.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
To try to define you as a separate, you know,
group that we're not. We're not being inclusive of Notice
the side step. Notice the side steps that had nothing.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
To do with what you just asked, changed.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
One thing at all. It works like with everything that
I did, What what does my side?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I can do more with my Android than you guys
can with your Hey hey, Zach, he saw step that
like he was James Harden traveling.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
That's what he did with the sad step. Yes, I
can't see me doing the face. What are you doing?
He saw me and face? I'm like, you know, we
all run with the James.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I can't see you like what James Hart's is called
for a foal he face that's like he has two faces,
the ones like the irritated face and then he's got
the who me face.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I was doing the James Hart like me. Really, I mean,
he could have agreed to he could have tackled someone
on the basketball court, he still said, who me. I
don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Anyway, five six year olds text lines speaking, we talked
a little bit of hardware in the last last day.
We got some mother hard his award season, as it were,
fash Jane potentially in the Heisman race. Uh, you got
Travis Hunter, who should be at the top of the
list there Heisman voternick Er.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I'm just why are you giving giving me that look
when you say that, you know whoever else you think
should be in that race.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Bryson Daily, the quarterback of Army, who you know has
basically as many touchdowns as Ashton Jany.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I'm just I'm just saying, if you wanted to slide
his name in there, third man.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Listen, I'm here for all of it, right, I'm here
to listen and absorb.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I'm just saying, you know, a quality, what a great
story with me?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
If you put a deserving kid from Army there and
the Heisman, maybe at the third maybe he doesn't win it,
but maybe he's up there, you know, being there with
the other elite players, knowing he's gonna go serve our
country overseas.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
How are you on Patriot? Well, you know what, hey,
he is a great thing about the Heisman.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
There's so many talented collegiate players who are well deserving
of the particular award. We would just have to wait
until the wards ceremony and see which one of those
guys take home the most competed award in college football.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Can't do that. I'm like J. G. Wentworth, I want
to know what I want to know now it's my money.
I want to know.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, there's voters spread out across this country who they
all have their different view. But I'll say this as
it pertains to Boise running back Asson Gent. I mean,
he has definitely accomplished a lot. And you know, when
you look at the college football rankings, you can just
kind of tell how people look at the you know,
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Mountain West and not really give them a lot of credit.
But I get the kid a lot of credit. He
is the entire offense for Boise. And I would say
this if Ashton Gents played for any team and the SEC,
it would be without any question. No one would have
any questions whether he should be in New York at
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the ceremony, No questions at all.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But when he has the same numbers, I mean, yes,
a little bit World or Alabama. Wait wait wait wait, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So here's why some individuals give Alabama or SEC schools
a lot of credit because they're great as far as
being better on both sides of the ball. Uh And
if you if Aston Jensen was playing for an SEC school,
he would have a better offensive line, he would have
superior skilled players around in which would therefore open up
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more opportunities.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
But defense, that's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Look, he is the bell cow for for Boise. But
if you were to put him, let's just say, if
you put him in the backfield when Steve starkeys in
with the Texas Longhorns, how many yards do you think.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
He would have? I think you have fewer yards and
more touchdowns. Fewer yards and more touchdowns. He wouldn't be
he wouldn't be used as much as he is, like
he is a Bois because he is the offensive Boise.
He'd be a part of the offense of Texas.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
But then he'll still be in a conversation because he
would have more rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, I mean I think that's what I said. I
think he'd have more touchdowns than fewer yards.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Okay, so let's just say if he had only rushed
for fifteen one hundred yards and he had like, I don't.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Know, eighteen touchdowns, he's still in the conversation. Okay, he's
still wild be in the Heidstan conversation. Well, how many
touchdowns he have right now? He's like twenty something done,
twenty eight I think something like that. Yeah, so I
think's gonna be closer to like forty five touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Forty touch you know, I mean, it would be an
absurd to be It would seem like it would be
an absurd number that he would have.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
So what if he were on the team like, let
me see Michigan or Ohio State. Right, we know how
those teams loved thrown the ball, and we know the
staple of those big ten teams are the fact that
they had big offensive linemen. I still think that he
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would be a monster in those types of leagues.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Last time a running back was was this high up
in the Heisman voting? When was that was what Deren
McFadden six o seven when he was runner up both years.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
No, I mean, what wouldn't you say?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I think yeah, And Christian McCaffrey was runner up that
year they had the one in two.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Okay, yeah, but well, once again what happened with McCaffrey, right,
There was a lot of bias because that whole pack
twelve after Dark actually suck and hurt his chances because
the voters on the East Coast didn't really see Kristen play.
Was they should have stayed up to watch him play,
but they all fell asleep, which tells me that maybe
some of those guys are a little too long in
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the tooth.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, he fallen asleep by ten o'clock. You said mark Ingram.
Get I forgot about that mark Ingram you know. Nine.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, dere McFadden was to run her up to uh,
Troy Smith and Tim Tebow back to back years, and
the Troy Smith one I don't think was that close,
which was funny because it felt like that one should
have been closer because he had like ninety percent of
the vote or.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Something like that. I think it was when out of Ohio.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
State if I remember correctly, and I could be wrong.
On that, but I think I'm right. And then a
lot of people are thinking that Travis Hunter may break
Joe Burrow's margin of victory, the ninety three percent that
he had. A lot of people are thinking that Travis
Hutter may break that we could with Janty. I mean, like,
what is it that we're basing it on? Just dish
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the sheer numbers. He's averaging one hundred and ninety point
seven yards per game and he had twenty eight touchdowns
over the course.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Oh okay, what I'm basing it on the Aks receiving touchdowns?
It's the talent of the player alone.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And I don't want to discredit or invalidate the coaches
or the offensive line that plays for Boise.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Obviously they block for Russia.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Who's rushed for almost, you know, twenty three hundred yards,
So there is some something to be said for that.
But I still would say if he was behind what
we consider to be a better offensive line, his numbers
could be so much better than what they are.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I'm not a posed to that. I mean, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And this is where I start making the case for
Bryson Daily for real, actually, because Bryson Daily's played two
fewer games at Ashton Jant and has three fewer touchdowns
on the season rushing.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
That doesn't include the passing or any of that kind
of stuff, just the rushing.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
He's played two fewer games and has three fewer touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
So once again, I think the bigger question is in
the conversation is how much of.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I they are one and two in NCAA, by the way,
in rushing to Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Well, how much of the bias against the conference itself
fact through the inns in some of these postseason the world.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I think there is a case for that.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I still believe that Travis Hunter is doing something so
special that it has to be awarded the Heisman, just
because that's my belief. But I can understand the argument
from the other side because the first thing that I'm
gonna say is, Okay, he was running buck wild in
the Mountain West.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, once again, okay, so you discredit the Mountain was
This is why.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I'm not trying to deliberately That's what I can't. Okay,
I give that. With what he did in the Oregon game, right.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Right, you can counter with that book once again, one
hundred and ninety two yards and three touchdowns. Right, and
that was against a top rated.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Team, Yeah, the one team. But then I'm in the
airhouse exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Then the conversation goes back to, well, it wasn't against
the best talent in college football, which now will lead
us back to one conference and one conference only because
if you don't do these things in this particular conference,
which sticks to Mark Crawl that it's like it never happens.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Well, you have that anti SEC bias from Georgia Tech.
I'm an SEC hawk because I came up in that thing.
But I understand the thing because I think that Daily
is going to get docked here because he played for Army,
and I believe he should be in the conversation.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I don't think he should win it. I think it
should go to Travis Hunter.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
But for me, if I had a Heisman ballot, it
really would be Travis Hunter, Ashton Janty Bryson Daily.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It really would be that for me.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Listen and I can understand you're saying that, And that's
not obviously how every voter thinks about it. And once
again it's up to every voter to decide what do
they feel as though they saw all season along in
the consistency and the impact of that particular player to
help them decide where.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
They're going to vote, you know, one, two, and three.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
But there is, in my opinion, some kind of bias
about the player and the conference to what he's playing in.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
And I'm just like, well, that player can't help that.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
But if that's the case, we're going to force so
many talented players to go yes, just to say, you
know what, I only want to go to this particular conference.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
The other part of this is if it were easy
to go for that many yards and that many touchdowns,
of them mount where everybody be doing, nobody else would
be doing it exactly nobody else is doing it right.
So that's that to me, that's the counter to that
he said, I don't believe that he would have the
just staggering numbers that he has if he played an
SEC schedule, But I do believe he would be every
bit as talented as he is. I think he'd have
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more touchdowns. I think he'd probably be closer to forty
because that's the way he would be.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
You. He would be used, he would.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Be fresher in a an ad minimal role as sabmiible role.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
He'd be running the ball.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
You know, eighteen to twenty times a game instead of
thirty to thirty five game.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Okay, all right with that being said, put Ashton jen
Z in Oregon's offense.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Hell, put him in Army's offense.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Then what Well, in Army's offense, he'd be a wing
back and that wouldn't be like the fullback has more yards.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
But if you put him, if you put him in
a quarterback well, I mean put him a quarterback there, Yeah, quarterback,
I think.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I mean, but if you put him on Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
You know you thought to a Texas you put Jashon
Janny on Tennessee, you're talking about a forty touchdown guy.
You know, he probably only has fifteen hundred yards at
that point because he only gets eighteen carries twenty carries
a game. But yeah, maybe even fifty touchdowns because he'd
you know, he'd.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Be used for that role.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
So yeah, it's unfair to judge him on the conference
that he's seen in that regard. I think it's okay
to like say, hey, wait a minute, some of these
numbers probably are a little bit of a byproduct to that.
The fact that you got to play Hawaii and in
Nevada and Sandles a state and you know and player
in teams like okay, and you weren't playing Alabama Georgia fair.
But then also he went for twenty twenty five carries,
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one hundred nineteo yards and three touchdowns against Oregon.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Hey man, that's you know, he's gotta come with something
that's yeah, and that's proven it.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
It's like, like, for instance, with Bryce and Daily, well,
Army didn't play that tough schedule, what do you do
against Notre.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Dame thirty nine carries one hundred and thirty nine yards,
two touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
When they came time to the playoffs, teams see, hey, that
guy showed up, but that line one worse.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
No, So you look at the whole the playoffs, whole
body of work.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Do what did he do against top team teams, ranked teams,
or teams that may have had a top rated defense,
and look at it.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
From that standpoint, he was still saying, I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
It curves you know, where you vote, where you lean,
but at the same time, it is it would be
definitely encouraging to say, oh, this guy's extraordinary, and.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
What would he had done if you were in a more.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Powerful offense that fixated on his side of the ball
and what he does.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Well, that's that's all I'm throwing out there.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And by the way, to put this in perspective, Darren
McFadden who was the runner up at Heisman in six
and seven, right, sixteen hundred yards, fourteen touchdowns, eighteen hundred yards,
sixteen touchdowns and was the runner up for Heisman those
six stud lines, we come back to the NFL six pack.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It's all right, berguson Zach Sever's here with you.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Six nine zeros, six line show within the show, always great,
loving the breaks.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Boss stops by talking about going for it. That was
a great conversation. It was a great conversation. I'm gonna
bring that there sometimes. But it's time the NFL six
pack right now.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Dean Rappaport for Portspixfield fellow check Davis Tarebox. Sorry, m
Rappaport person that Bill Belichick is interviewed for the UNC
head coaching.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Job, and that him taking the job is a real possibility.
That if you see Belichick taking the ball game and
then people style with frames you don't work out.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I feel like if this is keeping Bill Belichick in
the conversation for sure, But I don't believe that Bill
Belichick is tailored for the college game. I mean, you
need a you a guy who's got a glad hand,
a lumps and and work the nil search and all
that kind of stuff. I think that Bill Belichick is
uniquely tailored for the pro game in the same way
that Dionne Sanders is uniquely tailored for the college game.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Well, yeah, I mean this, this is one way to
kind of keep his name out there, like you said,
And really, I don't I don't think Bill Belichick is
built for the college game because what you did with
the college game. You have to be out in front,
in front of boosters, you have to talk to people,
you're shaking hands, and you kiss the bags like a politician.
That doesn't necessarily seem like that is part of who
(16:59):
he is as an individual. Though it's great to put
on your resume, but I don't think he would fit
to row in Chapel Hill soon keeps his.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Name in the conversation though they already He's already talked
to Arthur Smith and now Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
It this sounds like you had what somebody with an
NFL resume. Two all right, a little smoother.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
This time.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
The Denver Broncos now have strong candidates for Defensive Player
of the Year with Benito and Sertane, Offensive Rookie of
the Year with Foe Nicks, Coach of the Year with
Sean Payton, Assistant Coach of the Year with Vance Joseph,
An Executive of the Year.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
With George Payton. Which award do you think that Denver
Broncos are most likely to take home? I can only
pick one, only one. I'm going to your view to
the fire, that's a good one. I'm gonna go with
Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
You got two guys there that are in contention for it,
so it's kind of a cheap pick, but I think
that there's an opportunity there. I think Benito needs a
better PR team because I think he should be the
front runner right now along with Van Ginkel. But you know,
Sir Tan's got a got a name brand there, so
he's in the conversation as well. Well.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I'm going to go off the bean pad and I'm
going to say is Executive of the Year. Why Because
every single guy on this list that's not named George
Peyton is somewhat embodied within a whole concept of the
executive being able to put guys in place and support
them with other players and give Sean Payton exactly what
(18:27):
he wanted in bo Nick. So why not George Payton
with Executive of the Year.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Zach Martin's twenty twenty four campaign has come to an
early end as he's set to receive season ending ankle
surgery in the coming weeks.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Is this the last we've seen of Zach Martin the
NFL player? Man, that's a tough question. I hope not.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
He's such a great player, it's alwa's fun to watch
him play. I hope it's not the last we've seen
in him. It might be the last we've seen hi
him in that uniform.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
I hope not. I'll just hope.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Well, his thing when it comes to play as an
NFL the thing that gets you booted out of the league,
inconsistent play, too large of a paycheck, and also too
many damn injuries. So this may be the last time
you see you know, Zach Martin, you know, in the
Cowboys uniform. But for another team would pick him up,
(19:24):
they would have to have massive injuries themselves. And this
big adversary is his injuries. So his career looks like
he's winding down for.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
The sorry.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Jamis Winston told Cleveland reporters today that he won't let
his turnover prone reputation define him. Do you think we
will ever see Jamis turn over a new leaf and
get better at protecting the football?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I see what you did there. He did. Turnovers are
part of what the Jameis Winston experience. You know, it's
been that way since he was in Tampa.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Like he said, he's that guy, he's Jay Cutler two
point zero, right, and I think he's Uh. I think
he's hilarious because you know a Jay Cutler was like,
I don't care, you know, Jay Cutler, whereas Jameis Winston's
like a player to the Lord to deliver me from
pick sixes.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Look, I I don't know. I don't think so. I
think it's I think you're DNA DNA.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
You know, maybe maybe somehow, But I mean he's even
in an offense that wants to sling it all over
the yard right now, which puts you is gonna make
you more prone to that. I think when he played
for Sean Bayton, he was in an offense it was
more conservative.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Which we see with bo Dix.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
But I think in the offense, he's and he's probably
just gonna be the same guy who's gonna throw for
a ton of yard. It's gonna get you some touchdown,
it's gonna get you some turnovers too, and you hope
the turnovers don't hurt as bad as they did against Dever.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I think this is part of who he is.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Not to say, you know, you know, shame and and
put something on his name, but and he's saying within himself,
he knows that he is created a lot of pick
sixes in his career, so much so he's calling on
the mighty heavens above to help him out.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
And it's lead for me.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
That's a part of who he is in his DNA,
and as long as he's constantly thinking about it, the
chances are he's going to.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Make that play happen five.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
On the Pat McAfee Show this week, Aaron Rodgers said,
if the Jets need five more games to decide whether
or not they want to keep me, then maybe they
don't know what I bring to the table. Do you
think Rogers will be back with the Jets or has
he finally worn out his welcome?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I think he's worn out as welcome. I don't know
if he'll be back with the Jets or not. I mean,
the Jets are probably going to go for somebody who's
previous head coaching experience, and the question is whether or
not they're going to even want him and want Aaron
Rodgers to be there.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I think some people that they look at.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
We mentioned Aaron Glenn earlier, who's the defensive coordinator of
the Lions. He is a history of playing there in
New York. I probably get an interview. I think Mike
Rabel is probably the favorite for that job in New York,
and I can't see Mike Rabel dealing with Aaron Rodgers.
I just can't see that co existing. So I suspect
it will be up to that coach to make that decision.
And I don't think that there's going to be a
(22:03):
coach that wants to sit there and deal with that.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Well.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I don't even know why Aaron Rodgers is going on
the Pat McAfee show saying that the Jets need five
games are determined. If he's still going to be their quarterback,
then all this kind of loss because he's not even
sure he wants to be the Jets quarterback. So he's
just trying to setting this up to something that we
saw in years fast with Aaron Rodgers well, where he
held the NFL hostage for two seasons as he tried
(22:28):
to guess what he was going to do.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
So he's just trying to put this out there.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
But I think in the best interest for the Jets
currently and for the future, they just need to part
ways with Aaron Rodgers and just move on.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Six.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
After just one season with the Bruins, the UCLA has
decided to part ways with offensive.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Coordinator Eric the Enemy. His team says he's hoping to.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Look for another coaching job in the NFL. Will he
return to the NFL? And if not, what is going
to be doing nice?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
That's a good question. He's still getting paid by Washington. Yeah,
it's kind of funny because a couple of years ago,
people were, you know, in the out there publicly stating that,
I mean, not having a head coaching job was due
to racism and all this other stuff, And you know,
I had some some background on that situation. Eric b Enemy,
I think is somebody who adds value to a football team.
(23:22):
I don't think he's a particularly great offensive coordinator. I
don't think he has the temperament to be a head coach,
but you.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Know, that's my opinion on it. Somebody else can have
a different opinion.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I will say that he did poorly in several interviews
and did not sell himself as the guy to run
a franchise, you know, whether or not that whether or
not he actually is or not, he certainly didn't sell
himself as that guy, which is why he wound up with.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Washington and then UCLA.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
The weird part of this to me was the statement
they put out today where they suggested that this was
always the plan. It was a one and done at UCLA,
and he was basically doing to Sean Foster a favor.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
It was.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
It was a really weird, weird statement that was put out.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
That's sort of you know, I'm looking at the I'm like, wait,
you're telling me that the plan was to slum it
for a year and then try to come back and
get a head coaching job in the league. With the
one hundred and seventeenth ranked offense at UCLA, Like, dude, when.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Have you ever led a successful offense on your own? Clause?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
That is, whether the rubber meets are role because in
situations like this, individuals are looking for someone to shoulder
the blame, and in this particular case with UCLA, it
is Eric the enemy. Did the UCLA Bruins underperform offensively?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Absolutely? Was it all on airbandemy shoulders?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
No? I know some are really looking at that based
on the fact of how many interviews he's had and
the conversation about, like you said, Ben not being able
to interview in that capacity. But I do know from
some individuals who have had those coaching interviews it doesn't
really make a difference what you say to the people
(24:56):
that you're interviewing with because it all depends on what
their percent what they're hearing coming out of your mouth. Right,
And that's not to say that TB is a bad coach.
He's been in some situation where things didn't work out.
I hope he gets another chance that kind of rebuild
his career. But I don't think that this is the
last we would see of AIRBN.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Me well, I don't think it is either. I think
you could see him. You could pop up anywhere. You
could be college or pros.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
I you know, Kansas City's offense hasn't been the same
since he left.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
And it's interesting because I think Kansas City's offense is
Andy Reid and Papa Holmes. But I also think that
Eric the Enemy adds value is he's a hard nosed,
old school guy who demands a lot out of players,
and sometimes you need a guy like that the whole
people accountable. Maybe that guy's not on the staff in
Kansas City right now. Maybe things are slipping through the
cracks and that's why you're seeing an offense that it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Have the same sort of bite that it had when
he was on that staff.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Well, when Eric the Enemy was absent in Washington, I
think either before or after, Patrick Mahomes and tybeek Q
both came out and said some things on his behalf
to kind of validate him as a player.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
And even though sometimes as a player you don't you
may not like a coach and he may.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Not feel you in a certain particular way, but that
doesn't necessarily mean that there's not a great working relationship.
Because I can just tell you this from a player standpoint.
I'm not saying that every relationship with a coach needs
to be spot on, but I want a coach that's
going to push me and almost like a father. I mean,
they may not tell you everything that you want to hear,
but they're gonna tell you what you need to hear.
(26:32):
And for Eric, you're right. Eric is one of those
old school coaches. I mean, he's not going to sugarcoat it.
Could it be a luter braceist at times, possibly, And
I can tell you this, not every player is cut
from that cloth where they have the ability to deal
with some of the things that the coach is saying.
And for me, I always go back to this man
because I always go back to my own personal experience.
(26:54):
I didn't like how what things my dad said to
me growing up, but there were things that I need
to hear. I didn't like everything that Bill Parcells said
to me and how he said it, but there were
things that I needed to hear and not sugar coating
it made me a better man.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
It made me a better person as well. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
The Washington Commanders offense was right twenty fifth in the
league in terms of points four They said the league
high water market interceptions.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
And sacks, and they threw the ball entirely too much.
That was the quarterback Sam Howell. They led. They let
the league in.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Passing attempts with Sam Howell at six hundred and twelve
on the season, which to me figures to be a
bit of a mistake versus only their leading rusher Brian
Robinson only one heard and seventy eight rushing attempts. You'd
figure a former running back like the Enemy would favor
the run a little more, but he did not. Look
as far as Eric b Enemy goes, I mean, I
think everybody knows his background. He had a little problematic
(27:46):
time in his life. He had some problematic stuff in
his background, but he's been mostly past that. I mean,
it's been what a decade a half two decades since
any of that stuff surface. I think people around here
know him for his failed tenure as at offensive coordinator,
see you.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
But you know, it felt like he was an integral
part of that chief staff.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
It did whether or not he was, you know, I mean,
whether or not Andy was running the offense and Pat
Mahomes was executing it. Whatever it was that Eric the
Enemy was bringing to the table. While he was there,
that offense was better, and it dropped off after he left,
it did. I'm not saying that I think that Eric
the Enemy is a great offensive coordinator. He's never led
a successful unit where he was the primary play caller,
but that doesn't mean he doesn't add value somewhere as
a coach.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
And I don't know what he looks like as a
head coach.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
All I've seen is the temperament when he was the
OC ATCU, and then you know, obviously that got when
you when he was in Kansas City. I would say
he got h I don't want to say he got
softer because that sounds bad, but he softened up a
little bit when he went from there, So you know,
maybe he does. I don't know, but it is interesting
to note that a lot of the people who sat
there and you know, and said certain things were the
(28:50):
reason that he was not getting these jobs. And I
kind of pushed the pause button on that a little bit,
just because you know, I can't I'm not buying that
it's I'm not buying personally that it's racism to kept
there at the enemy from getting a head coaching job,
especially when some of the places he interviewed went to
guys like Tomiko Rance.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Well, I'll say this when I look at the fact
that when I first heard that Eric Vietnamy was joining
the coaching staff for UCLA. I never thought it was
a great fit. I thought it was okay, Sehn Foster
was getting that job. He needed a name that can
(29:28):
move the needle far as with boosters and recruits and
getting a guy who spent some time in Kansas City
or an NFL as a play caller, whether it's a
running back coach or he was running the show.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
To me, that's why I felt as though that was
something that the reason that they did it. And who
was to say and I'm not there or whatever.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I can make a couple of phone calls, But who
was to say that Eric b Enemy, having a little
more seniority based on experience than Foster, has probably carried
him himself more as a head coach than in the
office of coordinator, and that could have run rubbed Foster
the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's entirely possible.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
You don't we don't really know, you know, in the end,
a lot of uh you know, a lot of the
things for that, But you know, I just found it fascinating.
One and done there at UCLA where he had been
the running backs coach back in what three to five
I think it was uh U c l A, which
I'm not if I'm mistaken, was Foster.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Running back there when he was the coach, you know
what might have been or maybe maybe missed him by
a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I have to go back and because I can't remember.
I know Foster obvious who went there, but I can't
remember if he was when it was that he came
out exactly and was the excuse me as a running
back uh there because I think Vieemy was after him
barely but it was close anyway.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I just thought that was a.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Fascinating story today though in vietne me I do wonder
where he goes next to him, So Broncos country today,
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