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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Stanley group chat. Ryan, you doing, man, it's horrible. I
can't send that. People can see that stuff. What are
you doing? They're dropping dimes over there, Ron over you're
talking about pivot to you know who.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm like, I just tipped to Ryan, if the fans
could actually see you what happens before the show go break.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's a lot of discussed that.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
No, it's funny, it's it's but but yes, it's it's
a no. I can't get blass like that. Yes, it's
a very distressed bus. Can't get off.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
No fans Smith back there behind the glass stick first
and the Hall of Famous team well bitchment, all right
with you, Big show, Big show tonight. We got Romie
Bean jo on at seven thirty five, Rod Michael, eighth,
five guys s fellas uh recruising for this number one seed.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Then we're gonna get to the Chargers without Justin Herbert. Now,
you know, I don't wanna. I don't wanna.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
I don't want to write the obituary before anything's done.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Getting through Trail Lance and you get that first round
by throw a touchdown Passes twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
By the way, listen, it's easy to say that that's
easy money or better.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, let me rephrase that, let me rephrase.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
That that should be that should be easy money.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
All right, that's not set up. That's set up. I
don't get the setup. How say if you're say it's
easy money.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
The Trey Lan's been out here working for four years
waiting for the top.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You just said, what shot, what opportunity?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You just said Trey Lance hasn't thrown a pass and
how pass?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
And that's a long time.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Yeah, it's a long time, you know, know many he's thrown
in practice, though, And you don't want to have somebody
to come out and have that one of them scared money,
don't money.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It's smart money.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
How so smart money smart money prepares smart money.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You got that cocky money, Well you're supposed to.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
We got broncos bro We we cocky, but we we
still work.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Confe for granted, don't say cocky confident. That's different. See
when you say cocky, there's a sense.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Of Yes, the difference between cocked confidence.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
That just changed it, though, I said a better word
for it instead of cocky, saying confident.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah you should be confidently. Yeah, this is you.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Got to go sleep either though, it's difference between confidence
and over confidence too.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
You know, last thing you want to do is overright.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
CIRCA two thousand and five showing up to the casino
table with dealer Jimmy Tan over there showing a six,
I got a leven, showing I doubled down on that.
I get a three and this dude flips over a
five and then a king and I'm out by money.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Hey, that's bad on you. See it's different though, hand
looked me an eye before.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I sat down and said I'm gonna take your money,
and I was like, no, you're not.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
And then he did see it.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And what Ben is describing, see that is cockiness, right,
that's cocky is being.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Put here was a word and urban communities. He was
janky that night. What lucky? Yeah, yeah, I thought that
dude goed me into it too.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
He looked me in the eyes was I was like, oh, okay,
it's like that put their chips down.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And then I was like, oh it really was like that.
My bad gambling. But that's different though. That's based on luck.
But we're not talking about luck that.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
We talked about preparation and ready that's right and understanding
what stands before you, because now it was what a
two game, three.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Game race to get to Levi Stadium. You get that
first round by so no one should be sleeping on
this team.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Like a couple of.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Weeks ago, I think it was Nick Benito who was
talking about like he didn't play well, and that's not
the way that he described it, right, And it was
almost semlized though there was ill preparedness. I don't think
the Broncos are going to do that, and if they do,
I would be quite shocked if that were to happen. Right,
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You've already had let's just say, three games where you
should have blown teams out and it didn't happen. That's
the raters twice in Kansas City on Christmas Day. You
can't do that against this team. You cannot, for the
love of God do this. And I don't know what
the speech Chelon Payton's gonna give to the team the day,
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the day.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Of, or the night before, but the model from.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
The leaders in the locker room has to be like,
we cannot do that.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Yeah, well, but I got to say this too, and
everybody knows I love I love our defense. And he
saw those games that you mentioned we had some mistackles.
Now you're gonna have some mistackles every game. But bro,
we have to tackle better. We got to get body
on body. And you know, I was looking at the
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game from last week and when they're running back run
into the ends.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So we had him tackled or it is.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Down there close to the goal line, but still we
had him and then he spent out, and Bro, we
cannot let people do that.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
We got to be great tacklers on defenight. It really
costs us in Jacksonville. You had to.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
You can't let Parker Washington turn five yard outs into
fifty yard gains by not wrapping him up. And that
you know, Riley's been I think unfairly maligned for the
first half of the season, but you got to. You
gotta point a finger on that one.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Riley. You gotta wrap up. Bro, you got a game
a game down. Yeah, but I just think it's just
the theme of the entire defense.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
We gotta we gotta do a better job of wrapping
guys up, you know, getting.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Body on body and make sure you got them and
I got them.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I have the perfect remedy for you, friendly fire, right,
I know, friendly fire is a bad word because it
usually means that you have someone coming in and misfiring
and hitting one of the teammates.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
See, I thought friendly fire was what you and Grant
wanted to do to me every show. No no, no, no, no, no,
that's not friendly.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Not to say it, not to say at least, but
the whole idea to have a friendly fire that means
you have multiple people running to the football, right, because
you have to run with a certain intent, like not
just to get the guy on the ground, but we're
looking to punish that ball career. We're looking to punish
that pass catcher so that quarterback knows you're like throwing
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on this side. So we need more of just that,
that friendly fire, more guys running to the football because
if you have that steve, you're not gonna have as
many miss tackles because we know as players, you may
miss that first guy, may miss the initial tackle.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
But the whole idea is if.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You're gonna miss, don't miss into the sideline, missing back
to the field where he's turning you turning.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Back to everyone else.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
And what we saw in the Jacksonville game, what then
is talking about. We saw more of those tackles being
missed where I mean Parker Washington, to his credit, he
did a hell of a job freeing himself up and
out running with the tacklers. So everyone running to the ball,
because even Mike Changes used to talk about this. We
want to see at the end of the day if
we paused it, and where the ball carrier gets the
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first initial contact.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Where's everyone else? Look at your watcher, looking at watch?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
We need we don't we need all eleven hats running
to the football.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, shows now they beat us early a year. In fact,
they beat us, uh as long as hardball's been here.
They beat us every time they played us. But they
play a different style of defense. You have to be
super patient.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Now.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
The Texans got they got away with a couple of
a couple of big players early, but then they couldn't
do anything after that.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
You got to take your chances. When you get they
bait you.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Basically, the charge defense is designed to keep everything in
front of you. They want, they'll give you the four
yards and and just bait you eventually.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
And and and they were able to occupy the guys
on the one side and keep them shallow when they
ran the deep polls back behind, get back back behind them.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, and that's I mean, that's gonna be the thing
in this game.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
You don't have to take the opportunities to get you,
but the Chargers they want you to play a certain
style of football. Now Bo has been the guy who
will take the underneath stuff, so that you figure that
kind of might be a strength on strength. You just
have to make sure Sean Payton doesn't get in his
head and be like, all right, here's the time to
dial one up. When you know, just keep taking what
they give you and you should come away with the
w here.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Well, the one thing I love about Jesse Menser and
how they play defense, uh they moved or in James around.
And once again I say this with the idea that
I have no idea which starters are they're gonna sit
because they can't sit everyone.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Some of those guys have to play. They have to play.
But what you talked about, Steve, is the defensive scheme
that I definitely love is playing quarters right now. Quarters
like any other defense, it has its weaknesses, but if
you play it right, you guys play with great eyes,
you stop deep passes, and you fast flow in the
run game.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
So that is something that the Bronco is gonna definitely
have to kind of worry about because that's one thing
once again jesse Mentor has done a great job with
his defense.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
They they're coming, They're they're getting those takeaways.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Yeah, but I would say my takeaway from that is
we had to see we had to run some of
those Saint routes that that the Texas ran to see
if they got to correct it.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, you have to.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Getting that getting that that deep post early, you know,
taking those those shots early.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Maybe that loosen up.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Because the way they play quarters, it's not like normal quarters.
You know, normal quarters, you kinda drop back, just keep
everything in front of you, play break. They've kind of
pressed down a little bit and they're they're betting that
they're going to get home before you can get over
the top of their of their version.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And this is the thing that bothers me when I
watch not just just the Broncos play, but just all
thirty two teams, because learning to disguise. And most people
will say, well, you played against the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
He's seen everything. He might have seen everything, but the
idea is to make him hold the way up there
down a fraction of.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
A second to give you guys an opportunity to get home.
So if it's zone coverage, they don't just line up
in zone coverage and give it a quarterback an opportunity
because most quarterbacks, especially bo has a high percentage of
sitting in the shotgun instead of being on the center.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
So if you know, if you're.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Facing that and even if his own rolled down like
his man coverage, he doesn't know right and then had
the snap of the ball bail out, you might be
able to catch them and trap them into some kind
of or bait him into a route where he thinks
that he's open and it's not. But I don't know
why so many teams defensively don't try to utilize the
disguise as much as they should use utilize the disguise.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Yeah, man, that's one of the things that Man, that
was a huge part of our game, disguising making everything
look like it's covered two or are we doing a
lot of cover two?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Making everything like.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
If we were playing man like we're blessing, we're blessing.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Oh, we're not listening, we're fagging, and we're fagging. Oh
the next time, Oh, we're coming out.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And then that's why we see a lot of teams
run simulated pressure. Like you think about the early portion
of the season when we saw the Broncos, you know,
really grind down teams offensively, and that was because we
saw them running a lot of simulated pressure where you
look like you bringing the pressure and then there's a
guy that drops out right and that has led to
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a lot of interceptions for the Denver Broncos so much
so I think like the defensive linemen have more interceptions
than the guys in the secondary. That shows you that
they they're doing it well, and they're reading a quarterback
as they're dropping out and stepping into the somewhat of
those pass and lanes. So if the Broncos can continue
to do that, and they should have a great opportunity
to training this week to create a little confusion with
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him with that simulated pressure where.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
They can get so much need to turn over.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
I say to that, I mean, when you look at it,
we're kind of nick picking a little bit because.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Would you rather.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Be thirteen and three or would you rather have twenty
five interceptions?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Well, I'd rather be thirteen and three, But that's not
that's not the thing that I'm discussing I know, I'm
just I'm just saying the better ways to approach what
they're doing, and albeit not just the Broncos, just defensively League,
why seeing more teams utilize uh, disguising Just just just
a little.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
With you and that I'm just talking about just about
some of the things our defense needs to do.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
You know, we need to get the record and the
outcome than the positive side is what you want. Yeah,
no matter how you got there, that's outcome. Like outcome
is we got the dog.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
The process is, hey, we got to wrap up or
some of those stubs might be ls for you know,
against better teams.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, And I think that's I think that's the thing.
There's some some keys to this one.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
The Chargers offense is a little simplified, and our defense
should be able to pick up. I think on those
keys with what the Chargers offenses do it everybody.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Knows you're line to the boundary.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
That's a pretty cheap tool to identify what a defense
is taken away right when they do that, and you
can see the space they actually love to run that slugo,
you know, and so like you just got to know
from the tape what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
The Chargers like to.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Do in each of these situations and make sure we're
taking that away.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, well, here's what the Chargers did well against the
Broncos in the in the first game. They did a
great job using their bunch formations and their two man stack.
And what I mean by that, they'll have those guys
kind of either reduced inside the numbers or outside the
numbers where they they actually follow one another. So the
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guy who's defending, who's off the ball, it makes it
really different, and it makes it easier for that guy
who's trailing to either run an outbreaking route or in
breaking route. So having them to be really sound from
a communication standpoint and execution post nap, it's going to
be really important because that's been one of the issues
for the Broncos communicating especially at home where still even
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though you're playing against Trey Lance and starters not playing,
I expect it to be really loud.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Also, can't louse containing this when Trey Lance got some legs.
That's one of the reason he was drafted in this one.
And one of those things you probably feel like the
Charger you're probably going to try to do is usually
a quarterback and get him on the move to take
away from some of that Denver Broncos aggressiveness on defense.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Yeah, yeah, no, And you know, Trey Lance, we haven't
seen him in a little bit, but he's still playing.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It's all about understanding as a pass rusher rush lanes right,
because it gets so inviting because let's just say you're
outside pass rusher and the tackle right or left. They
really have, you know, set deep as far as they
kick slot and you think, okay, well, I guess because
because it's like open opens up so wide, let me
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take it, and it t goes.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Okay at the minute you do. Yeah, fell in my honeypot.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You put you put that hand on the low hip
wash you right inside. Quarterback steps outside and I can
see easily how and why it's so inviting. But you
have to fight against that urge because sometimes they may
pass that deep to try to entice you to take
the inside. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yes, the bas said, they said the trap. Yeah, don't
take de bate.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Yeah, man, you got to stay outside containing stay in
your wrestling on the tailpipe.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Especially against quarterbacks who are mowood and tip. What you
want to say about Trey Lance, the idea that he
is mobile and he's capable whether he's able to drive
the ball down the field from a passing standpoint, he
can extend drives with his legs, and you want to
make sure you eliminate that.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yeah, there's uh, you know, a lot of confidence I
think from Broncos Country going into this game. I think
rightfully so, because I mean, you are you aren't gonna
have to deal with Herbert, and the drop off from
him to Lance is theoretically significant, but she still gotta
go there. In player games, you look around this thing.
I mean, you need to get that number one seed.
You need that playoff by the home field throughout just
let's lock those things up, handle business and have those
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things and all of a sudden, this playoff field, which
I'm gonna be honest, it looks pretty daunting outside of
maybe that four seed. You know, you're you're in great
shape to let everybody wash themselves out the opening round
of the playoffs and take whatever comes your way in
the in the second round.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Well, for me, there are a couple of teams that
you want to avoid.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Buffalo. You don't want to play Buffalo. No Buffalo in Houston.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
You want to and I know maybe members of Broncos
Country say well, we're not afraid of anyone because no
one has really showed that they could dominate.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
No one has shown that they could dominate. But those
teams have shown that well. From the Houston standpoint, they
have an elite defense that can turn the ball over
and impact your quarter and they.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Keep getting better every week. You know that Houston team
that we played versus where they are now two different teams,
two different teams.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I would say this, I know we lost to Jacksonville
and we beat Houston. I'd rather play Jacksonville in the playoffs.
I'd rather rematch Jacksonville in Houston.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yes, because you go back and look at that Jacksonville
game and say, well, if the Broncos did a couple
of things defensively and offensively, they win that game.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Were there were a couple of.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Misfires from bow to wide receivers, either the ball was
thrown behind them to high or guys dropped the.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Pass drop passes, all those things are correctable.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Right, So when you look at, Okay, well, which teams
you love to match up with. Jacksonville would definitely be
a great team to.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Match up with. But I just for me. And it's
not like.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I'm saying, oh, well, the Broncos are where they are,
but I'm being w downa No, I'm just trying to
have a little foresight saying, well, what teams, what they're
able to do, and the problems that they could possibly present.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
So are you saying you were read to play New
England and Buffalo. I'd rather play New England and Buffalo
New England.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Or Buffalo versus Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I would rather play Jacksonville, Pittsburgh or Baltimore and then
start going down the list from there.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, because Baltimore's defense isn't what it was j DJ
Watt had that issue with this I guess collapse long
from my guess what was it to try needling?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
So their pressure isn't what it once was. So that's
a great matchup.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
For that reason, I'm Pittsburgh Baltimore with whichever one makes
it in. I'd rather have a rematch with Jacksonville. The
teams I don't want to play or Buffalo. I'd rather
play to Anyland. I I don't want any part of Buffalo,
I don't want any part of Houston, and I don't
want any part of Honestly, the Chargers at full health.
If I can avoid, if I can get.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
The okay experience, they find ways.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
See that's the thing, Steve.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I know some when people talk about the best playoffs,
they discredit me.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
That's what I look good.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
They dis credit experience. But but I'm looking at things
that can give you problems. Like James Cook, he's a problem.
Josh Allen on a good day, it's a problem, right.
So that that's the way I'm looking at it. So
there's problem. People listening to us say, well, let you
guys like you're afraid of this.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I'm not afraid of anyone, right.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But the idea is you have to look and say, well,
which teams present problems for you, both offensively and defensively.
And to Buffalo's credit, they have gotten better over the
week as far as their second and third level, right,
they've gotten better. And they're not great, but they've gotten better.
And anytime you push in a position where Josh Allen
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is scoring a lot of points, now you got to chase.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Now it takes you out of your balanced run game.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Now you have to really throw the ball a lot, right,
And we've seen the Broncos thirty eight forty passing attempts.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
To me, you don't want to be in there.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
You want to make sure that you have even killed
from an offense and defensive standpoint. But I still like
the Broncos being able to compete with any team in
the league. But those two teams give me, you know,
concerns based on what they do, either offensively or defensively.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, I just think the wild cards are to be
honest with you, I'd rather have the division winners right
now as you look at the standings right now, the
division winners I think are better matchups for Denver than
the wild cards. You know, the division winners right now
are New England, Jacksonville and in Pittsburgh if they pull
it off, and I just think the Broncos match up
better against those teams then they match up with Houston,
the Chargers of the Bills.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Jacksonville came under. They they played some ball. They got
a little bad too too. I like I like that
they played with the chip Man, but like it.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Why did that happen? See? Everything started well Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah, and a faked Sean Payton quote or whatever where
they thought he was dogging them for small market or whatever,
and they took a masterclass and motivation from.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Liam Cohen Lian Colin. Yeah, he used it. They did.
He was hats off. I mean it wasn't what Sean.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Payton midte but hats offul Leads turned that into that,
I'll compliment.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
You for not getting enough coverage for you a small
market team.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
He turned that into oh they think were small market.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Don't don't hate the player, I hate the game. I
wouldn't mad at it.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
And if anybody would know about small markets would be
Sean Payne. Do he used to coach in New Orleans,
which is a smaller market than Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Wow, that's crazy. I'm just saying it, is all. He
wasn't saying it as he was at all.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
They don't get enough attention because they play in a
small market and leaves and motivation.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
You can't hate.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Him for that because every coach is trying to find
another level to motivate his players, and you're always looking
for something something a player said, something a player did,
someone with something that someone tweeted, any type of video,
something to get your players up for a game.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
But we're in the playoffs, we don't.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
You don't need anyone to get you up for this, right,
you need to be prepared Sunday if you're Denver Bronco player,
ready to go out of the gate.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
That's why I'm worried about John Cooper and them tweets
with Kansas City next year.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
John, listen, bro let's just dial I'll tell you to
break break way back into this.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
There are certain teams that raise concerns based on what
they do offensively and defensively, and to say that is
not saying anything to undermine what the Broncos have done
on either side of the ball. It is just being
realistic and acknowledging what those teams are capable of, and
as you look forward to those teams, understand a certain
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level of preparation, but more importantly, execution that's gonna be
required to overtake those teams.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
It's not gonna be needed for the charge.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
No, No, if it's that serious, you know, Steve we
as problems.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah right, And I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
You know, you just go out there and the charge
is gonna lay down, But based on the circumstances, an
idea of not starting certain players and knowing as though
the Broncos are gonna start their players this should be
a game where once again I air quotes here.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
We want to pad our stats, right.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
We want to use this stylistically to really pounce on
this team.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I'm just the dub bleeps of stats. I'm here for
the doves. Yeah, just get just get in and get out,
getting and get on.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
We get on with that.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
By me, I say, Grant, the hair is looking great today,
great mustache? You know anything else? I can butter you
up here, so you'll cut my microhne off. Thanks, You're welcome,
and all the game is played. That's we were just.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Talking about it. You know, I'll being.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Jerome Medics in this situation right now. Yea, my bread
is buttered.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I think it's more important to.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Get in this game, get the win, and get out
without any injury.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Get healthy. You get that. To me, that's your goal here.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
That being said, who would you sit if you have
the Broncos and when would you sit them?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Who would you say?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Anybody that's that's had I mean Ben Powers probably maybe
certain we get up here, groove, yeah, but if we
get up I mean Glitchy who's had the shoulder injury
like anything, anybody who's had anything like that, I'm trying
to get a mixture to so we get up at
the half. I'm pulling Powers, I'm pulling the Glen Sheets
or Tan. You know, anybody who has been dinged.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Up this year? How wast those reps? No, he needs
those things. We got a weight room in two weeks,
he'd be fine.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Trying got the same as loud game as Yeah, but
I'm not trying to get hurt against the Chargers in
a you know, in a game that like like if
we're up at half, I'm pulling him with Glinchy, I'm
pulling Uh, I'm pulling sir Tan, I'm pulling uh green Law.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Green Law is not gonna play this game because he's
already injured.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I'm just I'm going through the list of peopleho be
dinged up like that's That's the thing. I'm going to
anybody who's been dinged up this year. At halftime, we
gotta lead you. You you're riding pot I'm bringing a
train in.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Okay, question what is they make amount of comeback? How
much you gotta be up by it in order to
do that?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
We're double digits. I'm just saying, Okay, you know what
I'm saying, like we do. We have ten or fourteen.
We're preserving the because you know how the Chargers are.
They're slow, they're slow team because they run the ball.
You know, you get up double digits on him, you're
probably safe.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Okay, you know not every time. I'm not trying to
you know, don't catch money, but you know what I mean,
like you get up on them, are sitting at some point.
I don't know, maybe maybe I just shown probably won't.
I mean, you know how he wants to have the
totals for Bowl. Like that's with all due respect, Like
I said, there's one. It's the game where you want
to pad your stats like this dude. Hand is the game.
(24:16):
This dude, this dude had last remember the.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Game in Kansas City when we were playing Carson Wentz
and a bunch of insurance salesmans. You can't city the
rest and everybody, and this dude has got dialated up
for Boa to throw like six touchdowns or whatever in
that game.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Pad Come on, I mean, look you can get it.
I'm mad at it, but you know, like.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
If it's this is a different situation, you're you you
want to rest out, you want to get ready.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
To rest I follow week if they win. Yeah, but
I mean, wait, I'm not saying that when we win.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
A bit of down there for Steve got already that's
get up up twenty and get up whatever, get up
three touchdowns early and just then then then you then
you can coach.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Okay, this is one of those games that you look at,
say the end of season, and every team does this, right,
you say, okay, well, they look at guys contracts, which
guys have certain incentives in their contract. It could be
fifty yards here, another sack here, two receptions of touchdown here.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Now I'm looking to see can.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
We get that guy to their incentive if there's if there's.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Some dudes that Eden senttives.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
You can make yourself a real popular coach in a
locker room by like you know what.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Sean has been that way too.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
I mean, and he's one of the first coaches that
I've really ever seen do it and then.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Talk about it.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
You know, I've seen the opposite sometimes where oh yeah, yes, hey.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Is notorious to tell it, coaches to pull guys to
avoid paying the bowls.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Jared Jones is the cheapest.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I think it's it's maybe over obviously it's over a
decade ago. But I remember Seawan Alexander, the running back
for at the Seahawks. I know exactly in his contract
as far as touchdown, he was like one touchdown away
from it.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
They take him out of the game. Yeah, they get
they get down, they get down of the twenty and
they pull him from the game for like two straight weeks.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, you know what it is like there it but
the court Mill this is one in the organization who
keeps track of that, and they let the coaches know
during games that hey, listen, he's one bonus away. Yeah right,
and this is like, hey man, let that guy get
that money.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
But it's amazing to me that a coach could among
all the other things they have to think about, they
thinking manage that too.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
I mean people have done like Hardballs is one of
those guys who does that for guys like it gets
in their bonuses.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, he's one of them dudes that does that.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
He called some bump passes or whatever just to make
it look like, you know, to get a passing total love.
He's done stuff like that before to get you're a
real popular coach. If you get of the year, you called,
you know, you could you could during the week.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
You.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Hey, everybody who's got an incentive bonus, it's realistic, come
in here in my office real quick.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Let's take a look.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
See.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I can't promise you anything, but let me see.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
What I can do to try to get something for you.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
If it worked like that, you'd be a real I
don't think it worked like that. I know everybody. I
know of a coach that had that meeting. I know
of a coach is who's told the whole team.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah, he said, I told the whole team that came
in on Monday, and he said, uh, hey, I can't
promise you everything, but if you got you've got something
that's realistic.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Let's get in here. We'll mark it down. We'll see.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
If we can't get everybody, I guarantee there'll be a
few people in there like they walking and do like coach,
it is a gla to you.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. You don't need to walk in here, somebody.
You need twelve touchdowns, you know what I mean? If
you're within one.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
One statistical, if you're within one thing of getting yours
getting you know, let me see what I can do.
You know, it doesn't mean we're gonna get there, but
I'm gonna try, all right, try this.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Out for his eyes.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
So Johnny Cooper needs three sacks to get the level
you ain't coming out and that's that gives them half
a million dollars.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I'm talking about one. If you need one or something, I'm.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Just saying, okay, So keenan Allen, he needs six catches.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
You know what's gonna happen for They gonna run him
on that little Dettal jet and they're gonna do a
little bump passes like five times to make sure they
get in there.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Hey, listen for coaches who do that, You got a
lot of respect for you, because.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Like you said, Steve, a lot of coaches don't do that.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
But to know that they build those the syndives in
your contract, and some guys haven't sent them latant contracts
and they never resetose the centives for.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
A coach willing to put forward the extra effort to
make sure you're hit that.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Popular, real popular contract for that guy you wanted, though,
Like what does uh what does ownership think about it?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Like, hey man, what are you doing? You put it
in the contract? Steve made a contract with the player.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
No, no, no, no, No, there's no I know our
owner is a super cool but I'm talking about thinking
about something.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
The other who may be in love, I'll take her
to break.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
But this owner was okay, but then he talked to
the owner before.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
But the idea, you are incentivizing the player to go
out and play well that player. We're not saying that
the guy is like, you know, one hundred and fifty
yards away, and you're gonna make a conservative effort to
try to get him that No, if that guy is close,
he's twenty thirty forty yards.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, yeah, I'm we'll try to find a way to
give him the rock. It got to be where we're
playing for something too, right.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
It wouldn't be a situation where like Cleveland Brown you
four and twelve, Like, hey man, I Lena get you
see the center.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Hey Jerry, say Jerry jun he like fifty fifty yards
for two hundred and fifty that shoudor may throw it
to him.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, you're jered. You gotta hang out on the ball
like he can throw it to you. You still gotta catch.
Jerry's gonna have the shiniest hands you ever see. You
talk about.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
The whole idea of not just thinking about getting to
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
When you come to the Denver Broncos, it's about Super
Bowl US. That's kind of what it was when I
when I left the Jets and they came here.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
So that's the culture.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
The standard that you guys set is the standard that
this team is trying to get back to.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
You know, you look at the top of the AFC
and it's two teams like that. I mean, you got
Denver in New England back on top, just like it
was ten years ago.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Did anybody see that New England? Did you see that
before the season?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I didn't see that.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I knew they had more talent than the record last year,
but I didn't think thirteens. I didn't think thirteenth three
of the Broncos either. For me to be fair, look,
I didn't think I mean, get Mike Rabel. I knew
that was gonna help because Rabels a hell of a coach. Yeah,
I thought I thought they got done a little shady
with with Mayo, with that whole one year thing that
was that was a little weird. But they have more
talent than their record was last year, and you could
you could kind of see it, and then you know,
(30:46):
this year, taking that leap, I mean, it would far
beyond what I thought they do.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
But I thought they'd be better. I did. I did
think they'd be better than the record last year. For me,
I saw glimpses of what it could be.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
But obviously no one predicted would predicted the turnaround would
have been so quick. But at the beginning of last season,
Drake May didn't look great, but towards the end he looks.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
So much better.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
And I think the combination of both his work ethic,
his ability and that of Josh mcdames, which is a
dirty word around here in country. He did a great
job and you know his play call. So that's one
of the reasons there where they are right now. And
then also too, man, they do a great job of
running the ball and using their running backs.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
You think joshper Daniels is gonna try to get ahead coaching?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, man, what is this a job number five or whatever?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I mean? At this point, man, there's always desperate teams
and someone is going to try to look at what
he was able to do with Drake May and say, okay,
well maybe he's learned his lesson and now we can
bring him in and maybe he can help out.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
But then they said that the last two times.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I trust me.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I know, but we know how this works. Teams get desperate, they.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Look at other teams and see how well they're playing,
and they want to duplicate that. And they think it's
solely by just grabbing a guy who coach for the Pages,
and all of a sudden there's a duplication of the
Patris way.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
But there's man, I look, I can forgive him coming here,
and it was his first time, he was young.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Whatever, give him a second chance. Then he quit on
the Colts, he got took the job.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Then he comes back around and goes to the Raiders
and drives them right back into the ground on time.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
That's your second, you know, your second full go.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I mean, at that point, come on, man, we know
what Josh McDaniels is is a head coach.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
He's not.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
He's an offensive he is an offensive coordinator for life.
And I'll tell you this. A lot of people like
to sit there and say Wayne Phillips was an all
time defensive courdter, and what a great head coach. Wayne
Phillips was a better head coach than Josh McDaniels ever,
was very true.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
But once again, we know how this works. Teams get desperate,
they want to duplicate what other teams are doing, and
sometimes they sell their so and they realize we made
a mistake.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, white mistaken, probably run an offense. But in terms
of running a team, yeah yeah, yeah, everybody's not cut
out for that, no job, not ever, And it's a
different set of skin. Was being Hey Grant, that dropped
right there, phenomenal.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
There was a continuation to the drop and that that
that's that's that's got everything.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
If you ever had a whispered conversation and an alley
way and that Jim Grass got that thing recorded somewhere.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
He's got a drop for it. He's got them all.
Terry probably has some.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Richard Nixon audio was the first of the water takes.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You don't know was even more yet you already had
the water Gate takes.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Oh god, it tastes like, oh guys, it's been a
great year this year.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
It's been a lot of fun with the with the
Denver Broncos and and what they've been able to pull off.
You need to pull off one more here in the
regular season. Get that number one seed, and I believe
they can do it. I don't know about you too,
but I believe they do it on You don't know
about seem steep out water and uh Nick, you believe.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
The driest the blankets over here a minute.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Remember I'm the guy that said in the Raiders game
forty five to ten Thursday night game against Kansas City
thirty five ten.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
So you're bad at picking Broncos close wins. Said, so
you're bad picking Broncos close wins.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I am, but would always give them the nod over
the other team in.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
A big way. Paradox, Steve. I appreciate it. I hope
you have a great new year. Look forward to seeing
new year. Hopefully I have that Steve ads on. Yeah,
that throwback right now. I need that you can get.
I'm just saying it's clean, though. I gotta deal for y'all.
All right, Broncos, put your night backup of this
Stanley group chat. Ryan, you doing, man, it's horrible. I
can't send that. People can see that stuff. What are
you doing? They're dropping dimes over there, Ron over you're
talking about pivot to you know who.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm like, I just tipped to Ryan, if the fans
could actually see you what happens before the show go break.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's a lot of discussed that.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
No, it's funny, it's it's but but yes, it's it's
a no. I can't get blass like that. Yes, it's
a very distressed bus. Can't get off.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
No fans Smith back there behind the glass stick first
and the Hall of Famous team well bitchment, all right
with you, Big show, Big show tonight. We got Romie
Bean jo on at seven thirty five, Rod Michael, eighth,
five guys s fellas uh recruising for this number one seed.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Then we're gonna get to the Chargers without Justin Herbert. Now,
you know, I don't wanna. I don't wanna.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
I don't want to write the obituary before anything's done.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Getting through Trail Lance and you get that first round
by throw a touchdown Passes twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
By the way, listen, it's easy to say that that's
easy money or better.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, let me rephrase that, let me rephrase.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
That that should be that should be easy money.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
All right, that's not set up. That's set up. I
don't get the setup. How say if you're say it's
easy money.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
The Trey Lan's been out here working for four years
waiting for the top.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You just said, what shot, what opportunity?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You just said Trey Lance hasn't thrown a pass and
how pass?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
And that's a long time.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Yeah, it's a long time, you know, know many he's thrown
in practice, though, And you don't want to have somebody
to come out and have that one of them scared money,
don't money.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It's smart money.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
How so smart money smart money prepares smart money.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You got that cocky money, Well you're supposed to.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
We got broncos bro We we cocky, but we we
still work.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Confe for granted, don't say cocky confident. That's different. See
when you say cocky, there's a sense.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Of Yes, the difference between cocked confidence.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
That just changed it, though, I said a better word
for it instead of cocky, saying confident.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah you should be confidently. Yeah, this is you.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Got to go sleep either though, it's difference between confidence
and over confidence too.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
You know, last thing you want to do is overright.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
CIRCA two thousand and five showing up to the casino
table with dealer Jimmy Tan over there showing a six,
I got a leven, showing I doubled down on that.
I get a three and this dude flips over a
five and then a king and I'm out by money.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Hey, that's bad on you. See it's different though, hand
looked me an eye before.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I sat down and said I'm gonna take your money,
and I was like, no, you're not.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
And then he did see it.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And what Ben is describing, see that is cockiness, right,
that's cocky is being.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Put here was a word and urban communities. He was
janky that night. What lucky? Yeah, yeah, I thought that
dude goed me into it too.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
He looked me in the eyes was I was like, oh, okay,
it's like that put their chips down.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And then I was like, oh it really was like that.
My bad gambling. But that's different though. That's based on luck.
But we're not talking about luck that.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
We talked about preparation and ready that's right and understanding
what stands before you, because now it was what a
two game, three.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Game race to get to Levi Stadium. You get that
first round by so no one should be sleeping on
this team.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Like a couple of.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Weeks ago, I think it was Nick Benito who was
talking about like he didn't play well, and that's not
the way that he described it, right, And it was
almost semlized though there was ill preparedness. I don't think
the Broncos are going to do that, and if they do,
I would be quite shocked if that were to happen. Right,
(04:02):
You've already had let's just say, three games where you
should have blown teams out and it didn't happen. That's
the raters twice in Kansas City on Christmas Day. You
can't do that against this team. You cannot, for the
love of God do this. And I don't know what
the speech Chelon Payton's gonna give to the team the day,
(04:22):
the day.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Of, or the night before, but the model from.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
The leaders in the locker room has to be like,
we cannot do that.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Yeah, well, but I got to say this too, and
everybody knows I love I love our defense. And he
saw those games that you mentioned we had some mistackles.
Now you're gonna have some mistackles every game. But bro,
we have to tackle better. We got to get body
on body. And you know, I was looking at the
(04:49):
game from last week and when they're running back run
into the ends.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So we had him tackled or it is.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Down there close to the goal line, but still we
had him and then he spent out, and Bro, we
cannot let people do that.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
We got to be great tacklers on defenight. It really
costs us in Jacksonville. You had to.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
You can't let Parker Washington turn five yard outs into
fifty yard gains by not wrapping him up. And that
you know, Riley's been I think unfairly maligned for the
first half of the season, but you got to. You
gotta point a finger on that one.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Riley. You gotta wrap up. Bro, you got a game
a game down. Yeah, but I just think it's just
the theme of the entire defense.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
We gotta we gotta do a better job of wrapping
guys up, you know, getting.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Body on body and make sure you got them and
I got them.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I have the perfect remedy for you, friendly fire, right,
I know, friendly fire is a bad word because it
usually means that you have someone coming in and misfiring
and hitting one of the teammates.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
See, I thought friendly fire was what you and Grant
wanted to do to me every show. No no, no, no, no, no,
that's not friendly.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Not to say it, not to say at least, but
the whole idea to have a friendly fire that means
you have multiple people running to the football, right, because
you have to run with a certain intent, like not
just to get the guy on the ground, but we're
looking to punish that ball career. We're looking to punish
that pass catcher so that quarterback knows you're like throwing
(06:04):
on this side. So we need more of just that,
that friendly fire, more guys running to the football because
if you have that steve, you're not gonna have as
many miss tackles because we know as players, you may
miss that first guy, may miss the initial tackle.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
But the whole idea is if.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You're gonna miss, don't miss into the sideline, missing back
to the field where he's turning you turning.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Back to everyone else.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
And what we saw in the Jacksonville game, what then
is talking about. We saw more of those tackles being
missed where I mean Parker Washington, to his credit, he
did a hell of a job freeing himself up and
out running with the tacklers. So everyone running to the ball,
because even Mike Changes used to talk about this. We
want to see at the end of the day if
we paused it, and where the ball carrier gets the
(06:48):
first initial contact.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Where's everyone else? Look at your watcher, looking at watch?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
We need we don't we need all eleven hats running
to the football.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, shows now they beat us early a year. In fact,
they beat us, uh as long as hardball's been here.
They beat us every time they played us. But they
play a different style of defense. You have to be
super patient.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Now.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
The Texans got they got away with a couple of
a couple of big players early, but then they couldn't
do anything after that.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
You got to take your chances. When you get they
bait you.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Basically, the charge defense is designed to keep everything in
front of you. They want, they'll give you the four
yards and and just bait you eventually.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
And and and they were able to occupy the guys
on the one side and keep them shallow when they
ran the deep polls back behind, get back back behind them.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, and that's I mean, that's gonna be the thing
in this game.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
You don't have to take the opportunities to get you,
but the Chargers they want you to play a certain
style of football. Now Bo has been the guy who
will take the underneath stuff, so that you figure that
kind of might be a strength on strength. You just
have to make sure Sean Payton doesn't get in his
head and be like, all right, here's the time to
dial one up. When you know, just keep taking what
they give you and you should come away with the
w here.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Well, the one thing I love about Jesse Menser and
how they play defense, uh they moved or in James around.
And once again I say this with the idea that
I have no idea which starters are they're gonna sit
because they can't sit everyone.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Some of those guys have to play. They have to play.
But what you talked about, Steve, is the defensive scheme
that I definitely love is playing quarters right now. Quarters
like any other defense, it has its weaknesses, but if
you play it right, you guys play with great eyes,
you stop deep passes, and you fast flow in the
run game.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
So that is something that the Bronco is gonna definitely
have to kind of worry about because that's one thing
once again jesse Mentor has done a great job with
his defense.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
They they're coming, They're they're getting those takeaways.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Yeah, but I would say my takeaway from that is
we had to see we had to run some of
those Saint routes that that the Texas ran to see
if they got to correct it.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, you have to.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Getting that getting that that deep post early, you know,
taking those those shots early.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Maybe that loosen up.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Because the way they play quarters, it's not like normal quarters.
You know, normal quarters, you kinda drop back, just keep
everything in front of you, play break. They've kind of
pressed down a little bit and they're they're betting that
they're going to get home before you can get over
the top of their of their version.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And this is the thing that bothers me when I
watch not just just the Broncos play, but just all
thirty two teams, because learning to disguise. And most people
will say, well, you played against the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
He's seen everything. He might have seen everything, but the
idea is to make him hold the way up there
down a fraction of.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
A second to give you guys an opportunity to get home.
So if it's zone coverage, they don't just line up
in zone coverage and give it a quarterback an opportunity
because most quarterbacks, especially bo has a high percentage of
sitting in the shotgun instead of being on the center.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
So if you know, if you're.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Facing that and even if his own rolled down like
his man coverage, he doesn't know right and then had
the snap of the ball bail out, you might be
able to catch them and trap them into some kind
of or bait him into a route where he thinks
that he's open and it's not. But I don't know
why so many teams defensively don't try to utilize the
disguise as much as they should use utilize the disguise.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Yeah, man, that's one of the things that Man, that
was a huge part of our game, disguising making everything
look like it's covered two or are we doing a
lot of cover two?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Making everything like.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
If we were playing man like we're blessing, we're blessing.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Oh, we're not listening, we're fagging, and we're fagging. Oh
the next time, Oh, we're coming out.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And then that's why we see a lot of teams
run simulated pressure. Like you think about the early portion
of the season when we saw the Broncos, you know,
really grind down teams offensively, and that was because we
saw them running a lot of simulated pressure where you
look like you bringing the pressure and then there's a
guy that drops out right and that has led to
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a lot of interceptions for the Denver Broncos so much
so I think like the defensive linemen have more interceptions
than the guys in the secondary. That shows you that
they they're doing it well, and they're reading a quarterback
as they're dropping out and stepping into the somewhat of
those pass and lanes. So if the Broncos can continue
to do that, and they should have a great opportunity
to training this week to create a little confusion with
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him with that simulated pressure where.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
They can get so much need to turn over.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
I say to that, I mean, when you look at it,
we're kind of nick picking a little bit because.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Would you rather.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Be thirteen and three or would you rather have twenty
five interceptions?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Well, I'd rather be thirteen and three, But that's not
that's not the thing that I'm discussing I know, I'm
just I'm just saying the better ways to approach what
they're doing, and albeit not just the Broncos, just defensively League,
why seeing more teams utilize uh, disguising Just just just
a little.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
With you and that I'm just talking about just about
some of the things our defense needs to do.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
You know, we need to get the record and the
outcome than the positive side is what you want. Yeah,
no matter how you got there, that's outcome. Like outcome
is we got the dog.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
The process is, hey, we got to wrap up or
some of those stubs might be ls for you know,
against better teams.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, And I think that's I think that's the thing.
There's some some keys to this one.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
The Chargers offense is a little simplified, and our defense
should be able to pick up. I think on those
keys with what the Chargers offenses do it everybody.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Knows you're line to the boundary.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
That's a pretty cheap tool to identify what a defense
is taken away right when they do that, and you
can see the space they actually love to run that slugo,
you know, and so like you just got to know
from the tape what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
The Chargers like to.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Do in each of these situations and make sure we're
taking that away.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, well, here's what the Chargers did well against the
Broncos in the in the first game. They did a
great job using their bunch formations and their two man stack.
And what I mean by that, they'll have those guys
kind of either reduced inside the numbers or outside the
numbers where they they actually follow one another. So the
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guy who's defending, who's off the ball, it makes it
really different, and it makes it easier for that guy
who's trailing to either run an outbreaking route or in
breaking route. So having them to be really sound from
a communication standpoint and execution post nap, it's going to
be really important because that's been one of the issues
for the Broncos communicating especially at home where still even
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though you're playing against Trey Lance and starters not playing,
I expect it to be really loud.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Also, can't louse containing this when Trey Lance got some legs.
That's one of the reason he was drafted in this one.
And one of those things you probably feel like the
Charger you're probably going to try to do is usually
a quarterback and get him on the move to take
away from some of that Denver Broncos aggressiveness on defense.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Yeah, yeah, no, And you know, Trey Lance, we haven't
seen him in a little bit, but he's still playing.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It's all about understanding as a pass rusher rush lanes right,
because it gets so inviting because let's just say you're
outside pass rusher and the tackle right or left. They
really have, you know, set deep as far as they
kick slot and you think, okay, well, I guess because
because it's like open opens up so wide, let me
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take it, and it t goes.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Okay at the minute you do. Yeah, fell in my honeypot.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You put you put that hand on the low hip
wash you right inside. Quarterback steps outside and I can
see easily how and why it's so inviting. But you
have to fight against that urge because sometimes they may
pass that deep to try to entice you to take
the inside. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yes, the bas said, they said the trap. Yeah, don't
take de bate.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Yeah, man, you got to stay outside containing stay in
your wrestling on the tailpipe.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Especially against quarterbacks who are mowood and tip. What you
want to say about Trey Lance, the idea that he
is mobile and he's capable whether he's able to drive
the ball down the field from a passing standpoint, he
can extend drives with his legs, and you want to
make sure you eliminate that.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yeah, there's uh, you know, a lot of confidence I
think from Broncos Country going into this game. I think
rightfully so, because I mean, you are you aren't gonna
have to deal with Herbert, and the drop off from
him to Lance is theoretically significant, but she still gotta
go there. In player games, you look around this thing.
I mean, you need to get that number one seed.
You need that playoff by the home field throughout just
let's lock those things up, handle business and have those
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things and all of a sudden, this playoff field, which
I'm gonna be honest, it looks pretty daunting outside of
maybe that four seed. You know, you're you're in great
shape to let everybody wash themselves out the opening round
of the playoffs and take whatever comes your way in
the in the second round.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Well, for me, there are a couple of teams that
you want to avoid.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Buffalo. You don't want to play Buffalo. No Buffalo in Houston.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
You want to and I know maybe members of Broncos
Country say well, we're not afraid of anyone because no
one has really showed that they could dominate.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
No one has shown that they could dominate. But those
teams have shown that well. From the Houston standpoint, they
have an elite defense that can turn the ball over
and impact your quarter and they.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Keep getting better every week. You know that Houston team
that we played versus where they are now two different teams,
two different teams.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I would say this, I know we lost to Jacksonville
and we beat Houston. I'd rather play Jacksonville in the playoffs.
I'd rather rematch Jacksonville in Houston.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yes, because you go back and look at that Jacksonville
game and say, well, if the Broncos did a couple
of things defensively and offensively, they win that game.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Were there were a couple of.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Misfires from bow to wide receivers, either the ball was
thrown behind them to high or guys dropped the.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Pass drop passes, all those things are correctable.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Right, So when you look at, Okay, well, which teams
you love to match up with. Jacksonville would definitely be
a great team to.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Match up with. But I just for me. And it's
not like.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I'm saying, oh, well, the Broncos are where they are,
but I'm being w downa No, I'm just trying to
have a little foresight saying, well, what teams, what they're
able to do, and the problems that they could possibly present.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
So are you saying you were read to play New
England and Buffalo. I'd rather play New England and Buffalo
New England.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Or Buffalo versus Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I would rather play Jacksonville, Pittsburgh or Baltimore and then
start going down the list from there.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, because Baltimore's defense isn't what it was j DJ
Watt had that issue with this I guess collapse long
from my guess what was it to try needling?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
So their pressure isn't what it once was. So that's
a great matchup.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
For that reason, I'm Pittsburgh Baltimore with whichever one makes
it in. I'd rather have a rematch with Jacksonville. The
teams I don't want to play or Buffalo. I'd rather
play to Anyland. I I don't want any part of Buffalo,
I don't want any part of Houston, and I don't
want any part of Honestly, the Chargers at full health.
If I can avoid, if I can get.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
The okay experience, they find ways.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
See that's the thing, Steve.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I know some when people talk about the best playoffs,
they discredit me.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
That's what I look good.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
They dis credit experience. But but I'm looking at things
that can give you problems. Like James Cook, he's a problem.
Josh Allen on a good day, it's a problem, right.
So that that's the way I'm looking at it. So
there's problem. People listening to us say, well, let you
guys like you're afraid of this.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I'm not afraid of anyone, right.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But the idea is you have to look and say, well,
which teams present problems for you, both offensively and defensively.
And to Buffalo's credit, they have gotten better over the
week as far as their second and third level, right,
they've gotten better. And they're not great, but they've gotten better.
And anytime you push in a position where Josh Allen
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is scoring a lot of points, now you got to chase.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Now it takes you out of your balanced run game.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Now you have to really throw the ball a lot, right,
And we've seen the Broncos thirty eight forty passing attempts.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
To me, you don't want to be in there.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
You want to make sure that you have even killed
from an offense and defensive standpoint. But I still like
the Broncos being able to compete with any team in
the league. But those two teams give me, you know,
concerns based on what they do, either offensively or defensively.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, I just think the wild cards are to be
honest with you, I'd rather have the division winners right
now as you look at the standings right now, the
division winners I think are better matchups for Denver than
the wild cards. You know, the division winners right now
are New England, Jacksonville and in Pittsburgh if they pull
it off, and I just think the Broncos match up
better against those teams then they match up with Houston,
the Chargers of the Bills.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Jacksonville came under. They they played some ball. They got
a little bad too too. I like I like that
they played with the chip Man, but like it.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Why did that happen? See? Everything started well Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah, and a faked Sean Payton quote or whatever where
they thought he was dogging them for small market or whatever,
and they took a masterclass and motivation from.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Liam Cohen Lian Colin. Yeah, he used it. They did.
He was hats off. I mean it wasn't what Sean.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Payton midte but hats offul Leads turned that into that,
I'll compliment.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
You for not getting enough coverage for you a small
market team.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
He turned that into oh they think were small market.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Don't don't hate the player, I hate the game. I
wouldn't mad at it.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
And if anybody would know about small markets would be
Sean Payne. Do he used to coach in New Orleans,
which is a smaller market than Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Wow, that's crazy. I'm just saying it, is all. He
wasn't saying it as he was at all.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
They don't get enough attention because they play in a
small market and leaves and motivation.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
You can't hate.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Him for that because every coach is trying to find
another level to motivate his players, and you're always looking
for something something a player said, something a player did,
someone with something that someone tweeted, any type of video,
something to get your players up for a game.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
But we're in the playoffs, we don't.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
You don't need anyone to get you up for this, right,
you need to be prepared Sunday if you're Denver Bronco player,
ready to go out of the gate.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
That's why I'm worried about John Cooper and them tweets
with Kansas City next year.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
John, listen, bro let's just dial I'll tell you to
break break way back into this.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
There are certain teams that raise concerns based on what
they do offensively and defensively, and to say that is
not saying anything to undermine what the Broncos have done
on either side of the ball. It is just being
realistic and acknowledging what those teams are capable of, and
as you look forward to those teams, understand a certain
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level of preparation, but more importantly, execution that's gonna be
required to overtake those teams.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
It's not gonna be needed for the charge.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
No, No, if it's that serious, you know, Steve we
as problems.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah right, And I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
You know, you just go out there and the charge
is gonna lay down, But based on the circumstances, an
idea of not starting certain players and knowing as though
the Broncos are gonna start their players this should be
a game where once again I air quotes here.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
We want to pad our stats, right.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
We want to use this stylistically to really pounce on
this team.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I'm just the dub bleeps of stats. I'm here for
the doves. Yeah, just get just get in and get out,
getting and get on.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
We get on with that.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
By me, I say, Grant, the hair is looking great today,
great mustache? You know anything else? I can butter you
up here, so you'll cut my microhne off. Thanks, You're welcome,
and all the game is played. That's we were just.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Talking about it. You know, I'll being.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Jerome Medics in this situation right now. Yea, my bread
is buttered.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I think it's more important to.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Get in this game, get the win, and get out
without any injury.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Get healthy. You get that. To me, that's your goal here.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
That being said, who would you sit if you have
the Broncos and when would you sit them?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Who would you say?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Anybody that's that's had I mean Ben Powers probably maybe
certain we get up here, groove, yeah, but if we
get up I mean Glitchy who's had the shoulder injury
like anything, anybody who's had anything like that, I'm trying
to get a mixture to so we get up at
the half. I'm pulling Powers, I'm pulling the Glen Sheets
or Tan. You know, anybody who has been dinged.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Up this year? How wast those reps? No, he needs
those things. We got a weight room in two weeks,
he'd be fine.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Trying got the same as loud game as Yeah, but
I'm not trying to get hurt against the Chargers in
a you know, in a game that like like if
we're up at half, I'm pulling him with Glinchy, I'm
pulling Uh, I'm pulling sir Tan, I'm pulling uh green Law.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Green Law is not gonna play this game because he's
already injured.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I'm just I'm going through the list of peopleho be
dinged up like that's That's the thing. I'm going to
anybody who's been dinged up this year. At halftime, we
gotta lead you. You you're riding pot I'm bringing a
train in.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Okay, question what is they make amount of comeback? How
much you gotta be up by it in order to
do that?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
We're double digits. I'm just saying, Okay, you know what
I'm saying, like we do. We have ten or fourteen.
We're preserving the because you know how the Chargers are.
They're slow, they're slow team because they run the ball.
You know, you get up double digits on him, you're
probably safe.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Okay, you know not every time. I'm not trying to
you know, don't catch money, but you know what I mean,
like you get up on them, are sitting at some point.
I don't know, maybe maybe I just shown probably won't.
I mean, you know how he wants to have the
totals for Bowl. Like that's with all due respect, Like
I said, there's one. It's the game where you want
to pad your stats like this dude. Hand is the game.
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This dude, this dude had last remember the.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Game in Kansas City when we were playing Carson Wentz
and a bunch of insurance salesmans. You can't city the
rest and everybody, and this dude has got dialated up
for Boa to throw like six touchdowns or whatever in
that game.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Pad Come on, I mean, look you can get it.
I'm mad at it, but you know, like.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
If it's this is a different situation, you're you you
want to rest out, you want to get ready.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
To rest I follow week if they win. Yeah, but
I mean, wait, I'm not saying that when we win.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
A bit of down there for Steve got already that's
get up up twenty and get up whatever, get up
three touchdowns early and just then then then you then
you can coach.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Okay, this is one of those games that you look at,
say the end of season, and every team does this, right,
you say, okay, well, they look at guys contracts, which
guys have certain incentives in their contract. It could be
fifty yards here, another sack here, two receptions of touchdown here.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Now I'm looking to see can.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
We get that guy to their incentive if there's if there's.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Some dudes that Eden senttives.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
You can make yourself a real popular coach in a
locker room by like you know what.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Sean has been that way too.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
I mean, and he's one of the first coaches that
I've really ever seen do it and then.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Talk about it.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
You know, I've seen the opposite sometimes where oh yeah, yes, hey.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Is notorious to tell it, coaches to pull guys to
avoid paying the bowls.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Jared Jones is the cheapest.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I think it's it's maybe over obviously it's over a
decade ago. But I remember Seawan Alexander, the running back
for at the Seahawks. I know exactly in his contract
as far as touchdown, he was like one touchdown away
from it.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
They take him out of the game. Yeah, they get
they get down, they get down of the twenty and
they pull him from the game for like two straight weeks.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, you know what it is like there it but
the court Mill this is one in the organization who
keeps track of that, and they let the coaches know
during games that hey, listen, he's one bonus away. Yeah right,
and this is like, hey man, let that guy get
that money.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
But it's amazing to me that a coach could among
all the other things they have to think about, they
thinking manage that too.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
I mean people have done like Hardballs is one of
those guys who does that for guys like it gets
in their bonuses.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, he's one of them dudes that does that.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
He called some bump passes or whatever just to make
it look like, you know, to get a passing total love.
He's done stuff like that before to get you're a
real popular coach. If you get of the year, you called,
you know, you could you could during the week.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
You.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Hey, everybody who's got an incentive bonus, it's realistic, come
in here in my office real quick.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Let's take a look.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
See.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I can't promise you anything, but let me see.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
What I can do to try to get something for you.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
If it worked like that, you'd be a real I
don't think it worked like that. I know everybody. I
know of a coach that had that meeting. I know
of a coach is who's told the whole team.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah, he said, I told the whole team that came
in on Monday, and he said, uh, hey, I can't
promise you everything, but if you got you've got something
that's realistic.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Let's get in here. We'll mark it down. We'll see.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
If we can't get everybody, I guarantee there'll be a
few people in there like they walking and do like coach,
it is a gla to you.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. You don't need to walk in here, somebody.
You need twelve touchdowns, you know what I mean? If
you're within one.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
One statistical, if you're within one thing of getting yours
getting you know, let me see what I can do.
You know, it doesn't mean we're gonna get there, but
I'm gonna try, all right, try this.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Out for his eyes.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
So Johnny Cooper needs three sacks to get the level
you ain't coming out and that's that gives them half
a million dollars.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I'm talking about one. If you need one or something, I'm.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Just saying, okay, So keenan Allen, he needs six catches.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
You know what's gonna happen for They gonna run him
on that little Dettal jet and they're gonna do a
little bump passes like five times to make sure they
get in there.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Hey, listen for coaches who do that, You got a
lot of respect for you, because.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Like you said, Steve, a lot of coaches don't do that.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
But to know that they build those the syndives in
your contract, and some guys haven't sent them latant contracts
and they never resetose the centives for.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
A coach willing to put forward the extra effort to
make sure you're hit that.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Popular, real popular contract for that guy you wanted, though,
Like what does uh what does ownership think about it?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Like, hey man, what are you doing? You put it
in the contract? Steve made a contract with the player.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
No, no, no, no, No, there's no I know our
owner is a super cool but I'm talking about thinking
about something.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
The other who may be in love, I'll take her
to break.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
But this owner was okay, but then he talked to
the owner before.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
But the idea, you are incentivizing the player to go
out and play well that player. We're not saying that
the guy is like, you know, one hundred and fifty
yards away, and you're gonna make a conservative effort to
try to get him that No, if that guy is close,
he's twenty thirty forty yards.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, yeah, I'm we'll try to find a way to
give him the rock. It got to be where we're
playing for something too, right.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
It wouldn't be a situation where like Cleveland Brown you
four and twelve, Like, hey man, I Lena get you
see the center.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Hey Jerry, say Jerry jun he like fifty fifty yards
for two hundred and fifty that shoudor may throw it
to him.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, you're jered. You gotta hang out on the ball
like he can throw it to you. You still gotta catch.
Jerry's gonna have the shiniest hands you ever see. You
talk about.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
The whole idea of not just thinking about getting to
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
When you come to the Denver Broncos, it's about Super
Bowl US. That's kind of what it was when I
when I left the Jets and they came here.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
So that's the culture.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
The standard that you guys set is the standard that
this team is trying to get back to.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
You know, you look at the top of the AFC
and it's two teams like that. I mean, you got
Denver in New England back on top, just like it
was ten years ago.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Did anybody see that New England? Did you see that
before the season?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I didn't see that.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I knew they had more talent than the record last year,
but I didn't think thirteens. I didn't think thirteenth three
of the Broncos either. For me to be fair, look,
I didn't think I mean, get Mike Rabel. I knew
that was gonna help because Rabels a hell of a coach. Yeah,
I thought I thought they got done a little shady
with with Mayo, with that whole one year thing that
was that was a little weird. But they have more
talent than their record was last year, and you could
you could kind of see it, and then you know,
(30:46):
this year, taking that leap, I mean, it would far
beyond what I thought they do.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
But I thought they'd be better. I did. I did
think they'd be better than the record last year. For me,
I saw glimpses of what it could be.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
But obviously no one predicted would predicted the turnaround would
have been so quick. But at the beginning of last season,
Drake May didn't look great, but towards the end he looks.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
So much better.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
And I think the combination of both his work ethic,
his ability and that of Josh mcdames, which is a
dirty word around here in country. He did a great
job and you know his play call. So that's one
of the reasons there where they are right now. And
then also too, man, they do a great job of
running the ball and using their running backs.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
You think joshper Daniels is gonna try to get ahead coaching?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, man, what is this a job number five or whatever?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I mean? At this point, man, there's always desperate teams
and someone is going to try to look at what
he was able to do with Drake May and say, okay,
well maybe he's learned his lesson and now we can
bring him in and maybe he can help out.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
But then they said that the last two times.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I trust me.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I know, but we know how this works. Teams get desperate, they.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Look at other teams and see how well they're playing,
and they want to duplicate that. And they think it's
solely by just grabbing a guy who coach for the Pages,
and all of a sudden there's a duplication of the
Patris way.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
But there's man, I look, I can forgive him coming here,
and it was his first time, he was young.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Whatever, give him a second chance. Then he quit on
the Colts, he got took the job.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Then he comes back around and goes to the Raiders
and drives them right back into the ground on time.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
That's your second, you know, your second full go.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I mean, at that point, come on, man, we know
what Josh McDaniels is is a head coach.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
He's not.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
He's an offensive he is an offensive coordinator for life.
And I'll tell you this. A lot of people like
to sit there and say Wayne Phillips was an all
time defensive courdter, and what a great head coach. Wayne
Phillips was a better head coach than Josh McDaniels ever,
was very true.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
But once again, we know how this works. Teams get desperate,
they want to duplicate what other teams are doing, and
sometimes they sell their so and they realize we made
a mistake.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, white mistaken, probably run an offense. But in terms
of running a team, yeah yeah, yeah, everybody's not cut
out for that, no job, not ever, And it's a
different set of skin. Was being Hey Grant, that dropped
right there, phenomenal.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
There was a continuation to the drop and that that
that's that's that's got everything.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
If you ever had a whispered conversation and an alley
way and that Jim Grass got that thing recorded somewhere.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
He's got a drop for it. He's got them all.
Terry probably has some.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Richard Nixon audio was the first of the water takes.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You don't know was even more yet you already had
the water Gate takes.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Oh god, it tastes like, oh guys, it's been a
great year this year.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
It's been a lot of fun with the with the
Denver Broncos and and what they've been able to pull off.
You need to pull off one more here in the
regular season. Get that number one seed, and I believe
they can do it. I don't know about you too,
but I believe they do it on You don't know
about seem steep out water and uh Nick, you believe.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
The driest the blankets over here a minute.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Remember I'm the guy that said in the Raiders game
forty five to ten Thursday night game against Kansas City
thirty five ten.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
So you're bad at picking Broncos close wins. Said, so
you're bad picking Broncos close wins.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I am, but would always give them the nod over
the other team in.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
A big way. Paradox, Steve. I appreciate it. I hope
you have a great new year. Look forward to seeing
new year. Hopefully I have that Steve ads on. Yeah,
that throwback right now. I need that you can get.
I'm just saying it's clean, though. I gotta deal for y'all.
All right, Broncos, put your night backup of this
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