10/21/2025 - Full Show

Aaron & Billy extinguish any flames of thoughts of firing Matt LaFleur. Plus, a look ahead to SNF's Packers @ Steelers (who will be wearing throwback uniforms).

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
That's right. It's carry the g radio coming at you live.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Aaron Negler joining you from New York City along with
Bill Schmid.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
They're in the Greater Milwaukee area and we're just.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Skiffs and bears, so little tailgating.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Come on out.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Tegating games is always a more fun time to be
hanging out.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Come on. I don't hear you, Billy. I see your
mouth moving, but I don't hear you.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
You don't hear I'm just gonna hopefully you keep you
can hear my voice because I'm just chilling talking about
the Packers.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's what we do here.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I gotta say, pretty exciting stuff when the Green Bay
Packers are sitting atop the NFC, not just the NFC North,
the entire nf C.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
It's it's good stuff. Billy. There you go, there your song.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
That's electronics of the world.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
There's a lot worse things that we could be talking about,
right like, there's a lot worse ways and lots of life,
and a lot of people in the NFL are doing so. Actually,
NAGS thirty other teams that are not waking up right
now atop their conference is the number one overall seed
and having a first round by if the playoffs started
on October twenty first.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
They don't.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
They don't, of course. But also when we say that
and how quickly we say of course, it means that
right now, if you're peaking on October twenty first, as
a football team, you're peaking too soon, sir. Like the
individual that peaks in high school. You don't want to
do that. You want to get better, you want to
go up levels, you want to get you to get better,

(01:31):
and I think that's where this team can be going.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
It's pretty clear though, anybody, anybody watching the Green Bay
Packers this past Sunday against the Arizona Cardinals will tell
you it doesn't look like a team that's peaking right
like it's a team that had to dig deep and
overcome some adversity and put another w on the board,
which is what it's all about here in mid to
late October, right you don't hang banners for being a

(01:56):
top the NFC on October twenty whatever it is, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
I understand that. I get that.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
But if there's no point in talking about the fact
that the Packers have the best record in the NFC,
then why do they keep track? Why are the records there?
Why do we even have wins and losses? Just everybody
be happy to go out to the game and enjoy
some fun. You know, they keep track for a reason, Billy,
and right now, backers are the best in the NFC.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, it's like the standing or the rankings in college football.
And a lot of people will say that they don't matter. Well,
they kind of do when at the end of the year,
that is who ends up making the playoffs is the
one through eleven. Now it'll be with the group of
five team or whatever, and all those different logistics and landmarks.
But like that's the part of it you do at
the end of the day, judge the results off the

(02:46):
wins and losses, and no, they are far from the
perfect football team and far from their best yet. And
I think that's to me, nags the most optimistic point
that I've been at for a while, where you can
see them finding ways to win games. It's difficult to
win games in the NFL. I know everybody hits you

(03:07):
over the head with that. Packers fans to celebrate, but
it's true, especially when you're not clicking on all cylinders.
When one of your better defensive players is still on
the shelf and DeVante Wyatt. When one of your best
defensive players in Xavier McKinney is not making the splash
play that we all see jump off the table and

(03:27):
made one of made their defense so dangerous in the
beginning of last year. They've done it in different ways.
And you mentioned fight and scrap and claw Meggs. That's
the first game that the Packers in twenty twenty five
have not had a ten plus point lead. That's a
good lesson to learn as to how to come back
and that you can do it all be in against
the team that's got two wins. I know, but they've

(03:48):
also now played back to back weeks a four point
game against the number one seeds in the NFC and AFC, respectively.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
And that's my point, Like, I keep coming back to
this idea where I'm sure Packers ot is filled with it,
because my postgame chat was filled with it at she
said TV like they don't look the part. They didn't
look dominant against a team that, to your point, has
two wins. Well, just rewind one week. The Colts are
playing better ball than probably anybody in the league. And
I know it feels weird to say that because historically

(04:18):
that has not been the case. But the Colts are
a really good team and the Cardinals took them to
the limit at home at their place. Yes, you know,
so with Jacoby Brissett. This wasn't Kyler Murray, right, Like,
the Cardinals are a talented tough out and have been
for the past five games that they just happen to

(04:38):
have lost. But they are a talented, tough team. And
the Packers, you know, they had to do everything in
their power to come away with a w on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, and their Arizona that being better I think with
Jacoby Brissett than they are with Kyler Murray.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
I kind of agree.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
However, Nags, before they went and played Indianapolis, they didn't
know that, right, Like, they had not seen it. It was
the first time they played with him. And they put
up thirty points or twenty seven points and and you know,
gave up thirty one. That that's been the tale of
their season. Arizona's lost tight games, but they've been in
every single game.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, and now look, look we don't want to be like, okay,
well it's everything's all.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Right, sure after that game, because of course it's not right.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
There's plenty to work on, plenty to dig into, and
we will. However, I do want to start on a
positive note because obviously Micah Parsons is the headline coming
out of that game, without question right three sacks, absolutely
blowing them up up front, no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
The headliner.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Man something that I don't think has got a ton
of run coming off of that game and kind of
coming off.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
The last couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Jordan Love just continuously delivering when it counts, when it matters,
when you gotta have it, when it's okay, you don't
make this play, the game's probably over All he does
is continuously come up in these clutch situations. Once again,
it's fourth and two, walking off the sideline, apparently shoots

(06:07):
his coach a look that says, what the hell are
we doing, gets back out there, throws I mean, of course,
this is the Packer way. Of course you need two yards,
so we're gonna throw a fifteen yard deep out to
tight end. But hey man, kid delivered again, and that's
all he's done this year. It's pretty impressive.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Six game winning or game tying drives in the fourth
quarter for Jordan Love in his career. They flashed this
stat up last week when they're in the midst of
the one to take the lead, and I don't know
that that counts in. I think he did it two
or three times against Dallas to tie the game after
the There's a lot of different points snags where he

(06:47):
has done exactly what you meant, what you said, led
the team down when needed, and they have gotten the
points necessary. Now, granted, was there some teach tape as
to exactly what not to do in the final minute
in Dallas? Sure, again, better to learn those lessons in
September and October. But see again, I think just the

(07:07):
proof is on the field that they are closer than
further away. They're closer to figuring this thing out and
being the far and away favorite in the division. I
think then, sitting here in the middle of November saying, man,
what happened to the first two weeks? What happened to
that team that scored twenty seven points and ran up

(07:28):
on the Lions and ran out the commanders of the building.
And granted, Washington doesn't look all that great with the
injuries that they have after and since, but wins look
different as the year goes on. You can play who's
in front of you at the given point in time,
and this week in particular, they get a phenomenal matchup,
but they just had one where Arizona. The characteristic of

(07:50):
the team is they play to close games. The Packers'
characteristic is right now they can be exceptional, but they
have not consistently done it for sixty minutes. They got
time to be able to But that's the next goal
is to be this good through a full sixty minute game.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
And that is the key, because I've talked about this
kind of all week leading into this game, and then
again kind of all an hour or so afterwards. Man,
there is no team that I look at watching the
rest of the league and think, oh, the Packers can't
beat this team. This team's too good, this team's too talented.
There ain't a team out there, Billy, that the Packers
can't arrive, whether it's at Lambeau or on the road

(08:27):
and beat like I have zero doubt about that. But
to your point, the issue right now is the Packers
continuously beating themselves. The inconsistencies, especially when it comes to
unforced errors, whether that's false starts, illegal procedure, illegal formation,

(08:48):
all of the kind of mostly pre snap stuff that
puts them behind the sticks on offense or you know,
lining up off sides on defense, given the opposition of
free play like the league's too close together talent wise
to be given away freebies like that. And the Packers
have done it continuously, way way too much. And I

(09:08):
know Lafloor addressed it yesterday and Espresser. I have zero
doubt that the coaching staff is somewhat at this point
probably pulling their hair out trying to think, how can
we reach these guys, because that is the one thing
that is going to stop them. It is them themselves,
the Packers, because if they play clean games, if they
play up to their potential like you're talking about, they

(09:30):
ain't bring them all on.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
There ain't nobody they can't beat.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, they're one of the only teams that has to
play two opponents each week themselves and one in the
other uniforms. And you know, Naggs, I don't know where
you follow in on it. Again, I think it's a
case by case basis. But like Malie Keith, lining up
off sides, oh brother, I don't know what else the
coaches can do, right like outside of walking out onto
the field using a timeout and physically moving him. However,

(09:57):
Jonathan Gannon just tried to, you know, physically move a Hey,
you gotta find one hundred thousand so I don't know
if you can actually walk out on the field. There
is not there. Right foot there, left foot there. There's
only so much you can do, right like, at some
point when you are at this level, you gotta be
able to correct the correctable on your own.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
And I get it.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
You're the coach. It always the buck always stops with you.
And why is he not half these guys ready to
play you lining up as the fifth string wide receiver.
That's gonna be on you, brother. We're gonna need you
to be able to do that. And now again jumping
off sides. Micah Parsons, Hey, hey, Micah, Michah, buddy, you're
a good figure, the phenomenal game. Yeah, we're gonna figure

(10:42):
it out, all right. We're gonna Baron Sorell. You sit
right here, young man, exactly figure this out because there's
levels to this. Right again, if Romeo Dobbs gets in
a legal procedure where he's off the line, it's come
out right, you know, better than that.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Let's go slap that Guardian cap and let's get back
in there. However, if it's Maleie Keith Malik, you're done.
We got one more strike. We don't get three in
this game. This is like beer League softball. It's two
and out. In a foul ball, you're out as well.
So you do have levels to this where at some
point you get a lot of grace through the first
four to five weeks nags. But it is week seven,

(11:18):
now seven, and now we'll start making more decisions and
they'll be a little bit more kurt and more frustrated
because now we've harped on them for two weeks.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Well, especially if hopefully the hopeful return happens this week
of Christian Watson and now that rotation of wide receiver
might change a little bit, right, Yeah, obviously Dantavian Wicks
went out of this game, so who knows what his
availability is going to be.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Like, we don't get a first injury report until tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
But yeah, the heat thing and the sorell thing. What's
sad though, is it kind of points out how it
is the entire team, because it's not just rookies. It's
guys who've been in the program for a while. It's
superstars like Michael Parsons, like that is the thing that
has really plagued this team. And I know people were

(12:03):
frustrated watching that game on Sunday. Hell I was beyond frustrated.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
In those videos were amazing. I just Dad's every week.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Well that was from a couple of years ago.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
That was from the Buccaneers game where Baker Mayfield had
a perfect passer rating and Joe Barry was definitely not
the answer. So I finally blew my top. That was
that was that was three years of frustration coming out.
But you know, Sunday, you're You're that the final drive.
I said to Corey, like, if we give up a
touchdown here, and then we promptly gave up a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I was so mad.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
I was so upset and so frustrated, And because I was,
this is how upset I was. It was blinded me
because then they turned around and they ran a play
right that was seven seconds left, I believe, And I'm
sitting there going, why are we running a play?

Speaker 1 (12:53):
What? What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (12:55):
All I could think because I was so mad and
so pissed off at this team. All I can think
about was the end of the first half against the
Cowboys and how they tried to push it there right
and you know, Walker gets beat around the edge and
there's a stripsack fumble and the Cowboys run one more
play and get a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
I'm thinking, why are we putting ourselves in this situation?

Speaker 3 (13:13):
But don't subject myself to this, but.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Shout out lafleur, shout out love. And in the offense,
they they execute it perf perf to perfection. And got
that opportunity to watch the substitute teacher put one through
the uprise from sixty one yards away.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
That's what that's that's not that's not inconsiderable. That is
pretty impressive.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
So that was my submission for turning point of the game,
the Toyota turning point of the game on Packers ice.
I was, I was advocating for it. Now I think
I lost. I believe I lost to the fourth down
stock fourth and the fourth down stock to keep to
put the Packers offense back onto the field again, a
very very good one. They have a chance to go

(13:59):
up two scores. They continue that drive and go score
a touchdown. Packers get it back chance to go win it.
But that, to me, Nags was a turning point of Fellas. Again,
we do this a lot where you've now done messed
up and set the standard a little too high. If
we can play that good of situational football, now it's
just one pass, right, it's one deep deep in to

(14:21):
be able to find a spot and a cushion in
the zone where you're gonna be able to give yourself
a shot. But that to me is the best situational football,
the headiest football they have played throughout the twenty twenty
five season, and that savviness is what it's gonna take
to win playoff games. And if indeed it's Lucas Haversaku done,
good young man. If that's all we see for Lucas Haversack,

(14:45):
submission into the Packers Hall of Fame if they win
the Super Bowl, like I mean, if they win the record,
If they win the Super Bowl he has a franchise
record sixty one yard field goal, he might have to
go into the Packers Hall of Fame. He also might
have to be We we got to figure out can
we get Swede in him? Can we find if he
can be Turkish? Can he be our international Pathway player

(15:07):
because we just like to do it as kickers. So
can we just figure out a way for him to
be the IPP Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Sure, I'm sure we could trace his roots and make
that work.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Well, if somebody twenty three and me, Lucas haversecond, see
if we go.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
To the league and say they get.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Canceled twenty three and me get canceled. Oh yeah, they
were cloning people.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
I think they were. They were looking into the records
or something.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Okay, okay, got it still up and up at this point,
figure it out. We need to make sure that we
can save him as the IPP player.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
During KP oh there you go, there you go. Uh
so we uh will be taking a break here.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
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Speaker 1 (17:44):
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Speaker 3 (17:45):
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Speaker 2 (17:48):
It all works to get it's all in concert. It's
kind of like Packers fans showing up in the desert. Man,
did you see Brissette post games saying they had to
run silent count for the whole game at home Chef's kiss.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
You knew it was gonna be one of those environments
and sometimes nags and maybe I don't know if you
thought about this as well, because sometimes it has not
always aided the Packers instantly and early. In one of
those games where it's a road game that turns into
a home game because the Packers fans are all over
the place. That doesn't always turn out as swimmingly as

(18:22):
you would hope.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Right.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
No, it's not automatic that way, right, There's no doubt, and.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
I do think it was.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
It's one of those things where I thought watching it live,
because you see the guard right do the thing where
he's pointing, and he does the rhythm, and he center
does the thing and he snaps it, and I thought.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Are they on silent count?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
And then he confirmed yep, they were on silent count,
which is again just a testament to Packers fans and
their travels and showing up and taking places over. I'm
very interested to see what happens Sunday night in Pittsburg.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
You know, the Steelers fan as they travel, they take
places over.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
There's no doubt.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yes, they are going to do everything in their power
to keep Packers fans out, but I do think there
will be a number of Packers fans in attendance in
Pittsburgh on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Big time. This is going to be one of those
games that if there's social capital that you have during
an NFL season. This is a social capital kind of game.
This is the I was there when Rogers played the
Packers for the only time in his career, and I
do believe it's the only time unless the two meet
in the super Bowl somehow. He's playing one year very fast.

(19:33):
They're both playoff team right now, they're both leading their divisions.
But this is going to be one of the tougher
tickets to get. Albeit though Nags, I think it's fun
to speculate because right now, like getting the door price
on a couple of different institutions, like a couple of
hundred bucks to fifty three hundred, there's definitely going to
be some Packer fans that find their way into Akrocher
Stadium for a guy to have a game, But it

(19:54):
doesn't have the same feel like this one does, or
like the farv games did hold up.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
First of all, I was at the last far game
at Lambeau when he threw the pick six to the
Bishop and the whole.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
The victorious one was a lot better than the one
I was at.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, but the one he almost pulled out with that
crazy throat to Randy Moss the back of the end zone,
like insane game. Right, But did you know off the
top of your head the name of the Steelers stadium
or did you just see tickets?

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Oh yeah, ag for sure stadium.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
You knew that off the top of your head.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, just because I'm just getting old, Just because it's
sad that the Hinds Bottles aren't there anymore.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
See, I don't even think of it as Hines. I
think of it as Three River Stadium.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Ooo.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Fair because I'm an old man.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah, fair, you are kind of on that one.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
But if you go and you see it, and it's
on that spot where you can see the rivers, and
it's just gorgeous and it's such a great place.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
To watch a game. It is Three Rivers River Stadium
when I was growing up.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
That is the one. Uh. That is another one of
the meccas of football that I definitely want to get to. Like,
there are certain places that do still have it circled,
and lambeau Field is one of them. That's why you
and I get into the contention and all the time,
like this is a good thing that people make it
a pilgrimage to get to lambeau Field, that they desperately
want to see a game there because it's it is
still a crown jewel of football. When the Steelers are

(21:10):
playing a home game and they fire up Brennegade in
that fourth quarter, it is one of the places that
you circle as the coolest spots that you're going to
be able to watch pro football.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
It is special, And I mean, look, I loved Lafleur's
take yesterday when asked about and he.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Got he got a little got, a little chesty.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Little Bristley little, Yeah, a little Bristley there.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Which isn't familiar for the head coach.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
No.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Bill Buber asked the question, my man, Bill Huber just
gets absolute will Bill?

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, bless you Hubert.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
You know, well, look, without Bill Huber, there would be
no questions because Bill always kind of breaks the ice
and asks the first question.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah. It's great because then he gets us off and running.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
There's nothing worse that when you're in that room and
all of a sudden, you know, Matt shows up and
everyone's been talking and having a good time, and then
Lafleour walks up to the podium and all fun just
kind of dies, right, and then you're just silent. And
he sits there, and that time from when he arrives
at the podium to whenever the first question gets asked,
usually by Bill Hubert. But in that kind of brief

(22:14):
maybe ten twelve seconds, you do question your life a
little bit, like wait, why are we here?

Speaker 1 (22:19):
What am I doing? What's my question? Why? Like it
does become a bit kind of surreal.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
I kind of equate it to like when you're in
class and the teacher would leave and everyone's kind of
talking amongst themselves, laughing like we don't have a teacher,
and then all of a sudden they walk back in,
or which happened to us every once in a while,
the assistant principal walks.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
In, Oh that's not good.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Great now we're all looking like, oh boy, we definitely
did it this time. She's crying. Yeah, we're in We're in.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
A tough spot here, principal cry.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
No, we made our teacher cry a few times. And
then the assistant principle would come into you got Luna
to reprimand yeah, one hundred percent that's where it was.
Because listen, as much as Jason Waller's will tell you, hey,
what's up, I tell you guys, wash yourself a little
bit when when Matt walks in and becomes a little
bit more of the assistant principal walking in, Like okay,
he will yell at me if I asked the question wrong,

(23:11):
no doubt about it, no question. You know, when Rob
has to look like as he said the whole on
on Sunday when they said Michael was going to come
to the podium that he was going to do in
the locker room, that was phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Back end, Rob just like bolted.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
He's like, all right, well now I feel like a
real jerk. All right, Rob, go ahead, get out of here.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
See you. But you know, like Matt said, like he
had a career day. Of course you want to talk
to Mike.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
You have to three sacks.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Totally understandable.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
But to the point the floor being asked about this
game and Aaron Rodgers, we're not playing Aaron Rodgers. We're
playing the Pittsburgh Steelers. Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback. And
of course he's got history here, but none of that
means anything. And you know what, he's absolutely one billion
percent correct when it comes to the football team's approach.
Right like they're breaking down film. Oh look, there's a

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quarterback making throws and making plays and has tendencies and
doing things that he likes or doesn't like, et cetera.
That's inside the building and that's their viewpoint, and that's
exactly as it should be. But I'll tell you what
outside the building I'm in. I love it. I love
the drama, the narrative, the fact that people. Man, there
was somebody online I can't remember who it was, but

(24:21):
someone was like Packers fans, Packers going to Pittsburgh on Sunday?
Are you gonna be rooting for Aaron Rodgers even a
little bit?

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I'm like, how high were you when you type that out?

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Like what Packers fan? Packers fan, actual Packers fan is
rooting for Aaron Rodgers on Sunday? Like that blew my mind.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
You were there in two thousand and seven and eight.
You saw how many were cheering for Minnesota. There were
a number of them. Now, that was the different part
of it is it was a very different the very
different personal relationship that many people had with Brett and
never we're going to allow themselves to have with Aaron
right now. Some of that was also Aaron because he

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distanced himself quite a bit and he was. He was
good at making it known that he wanted to be
different than Brett. And I think that's that's a fair thing, right,
Like I want to be my own guy. I want
to be my own person. He's going to do his
press conference at the podium on Wednesdays, I'm going to
do it in the locker room. Like So there was
always going to be that separation of I'm going to

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be me, he was going to be him.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
I'm actually gonna mentor my successor as opposed to treat
him like a pariah.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Well, that's a nice way of putting it. And there's
a lot of different things that Negt. Let's just call
it what it is. The prickly things that Brett did
that in twenty twenty one. In twenty twenty two, I
think would have turned a lot of Packers fans against him. Yeah,
rallied the troops almost in support of him. Yeah, Like wait,

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you're just yeah, Brett shouldn't have to come to training camp?

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Bred has to come to OTAs, but he's in Mississippi.
Why should killing He's on the bos cutting grass. What
do you want him to do? Throw to Javon Walker,
and Robert Ferguson. He'll be fine. He's Bret Favre. Aaron
Rodgers doesn't like this, son of up. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (26:21):
What?

Speaker 3 (26:21):
You're gonna sit in a cave and not play play football?
So like there's a different being there. And that's to
the point where you're exactly right, hardcore cheeseheads live and die.
There's not gonna be a whole lot of them.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Now.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
There's some like me who grew up with Aaron authoring
a lot of our best moments of fandom, the biggest
moments of my Packers fandom, and I'm pulling for him
sixteen out of the seventeen games, I want them to
go to the super Bowl. I think it's gonna be
a phenomenal one, but I definitely don't want him to
add to the list of players that have beaten all

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thirty two teams in the one.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
And look, he's going to have to play a patient
game against the Packers the way the Packers play defense,
and I think he's capable of that. We've certainly seen
it throughout his time in Pittsburgh already. But there's one
play from that game against the Bengals that I keep
coming back to where he chucks up, heaves up a
you know, bomb up the left sideline for DK Metcalf

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that ends up getting intercepted. That's the kind of play
that I suspect he's going to be tempted to try
to make against the Packers, putting on a show, showing
up his old team, you know, pick a narrative. But
if he gives them one or gives them opportunities, McKinney
and company will have something for him. But if he

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plays a patient game and is willing to pay per
cut or try to pay per cut the Packers to death.
I think he can cook, and I think it's going
to be a very long day at the office for
the Packers.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Dam Yeah, in Naggs, he has shown that he is uh,
he's playing very well right Like he's not. He's not
playing MVP level football, but he's playing damn good football,
and for a team that when he was brought in
the last thing they thought was we're gonna play a
lot of games that are going to be decided thirty
three thirty one.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
That was not a part of the mathematics.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
They've played two games that have been decided in the
thirties and they're one and one in it, and a
part of it is because of what he's done. Now
you mentioned the throw there that that definitely changed the game.
He does need to play within themselves, but the Packers
need to be able to capitalize because this Steelers defense,
your father's Steelers defense.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Wow, all I could think of. Now both there's two.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
There's you are tempted to do everything because they can
be run on. I mean, the Bengals ran on them,
and the Bengals haven't been able to run at all
anyway on a track, and then that secondary is gettable.
So now you're getting Christian Watson back, you got Jordan
Love getting heating up, like there's so much temptation there.

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But I suspect we're going to continue to see running
the ball, trying to keep ahead of the sticks. Some
would call it a conservative approach from Matt Lafleur. I
think it's just smart ball. Yeah, but you know they're
they're there are going to.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Be opportunities against the Steelers defense without question.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Okay, where does this conservative thing come from? Are we
just are we just throwing that?

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Because if you're not throwing it forty eight times, you
are being conservative apparently by the way, Baker Mayfield through
it forty eight times last night and they lost by
multiple schools.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Yeah, and I mean, like I I guess maybe I'm
just in uh and I'm not trying to uh, Jeff
Haffley the situation where it's up show me prevent defense.
There was no prefense defense. There was no prevent what
are you trying to prevent?

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Okay, but don't be lazy as a questioner if you're
in that room, like you got to at least educate yourself,
Like I understand Halfley getting kind of risk at that question. Yeah,
because there wasn't there was no prevent defense. At least
know the terms of what you're using in that room.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Well, and that's where also when the conservative thing comes up,
of all they do is throw these checkdowns. Well that's the.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Fourth three that Arizona game.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Correct, because what would be conservative is not calling a
deep shot. It'd be the number one option on damn
near every pass play, right, Like, I mean, that's not
conservative football. So I do struggle with that part of
the statement where I get it. Okay, they ran it
on third down? How dare they now if they would

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have gotten it sweet power football.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Okay, all right, yeah, yeah, okay, I hear you, but
there's not there's a correlation here, Billy. They ran it
on third down more times in this past game than
they have throughout the season, and it was by far
and not even close, their worst offensive output on third
down on third season low.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Sure on third down, like put the ball in the
hands of.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Jordan Love on third down, like, I get it every
every once in a while, switch it up.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Maybe a draw play.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Wasn't Joshjacobs, their best offensive player, pitch to.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
The short side on third and two. Billy, even Matt
said that was a crappy play call.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Sure, yeah, I get it. I get it. Okay, so
you got one, but you're not. So you're gonna run
the football.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
I got one, I got two. I got the spinner.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Action to Emmanuel Wilson into the loving arms with Klay
as Campbell.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
If we get time if we get time out, go
look at it again. If you hit one block, there
are three Packers players and one Cardinal. Again, execution matters here, so.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
You can execute much better and much more efficiently with
Jordan Love pulling the trigger.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Okay, I guess again, I I.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Mean you were, you were on a historic pace prior
to this game. Uh, throwing the football and converting on
third downs.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
I'm just using, you know, the historical data presented to
me here within the twenty five season.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
I know.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
So okay, there was there was bad enough that they
scored twenty seven points.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Oh, I get it out. I just they got to execute.
I understand.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
I love it if we go back and look at it.
But no, the result was terrible. So we need to
figure this out and hold them accountable.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
This is Brood figured it out. I already figured it out.
I already told you. Just let Jordan Love cook on
third down.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
That'll work.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
I mean he's doing it on third and fourth down now,
so you know, just let Jordan cook.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
This feels like an easy fix.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
I'm gonna I'm gonna make sure I realize I replayed
this one when you run out with the run the
bleeping ball shirt.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Hey, I'm all about running the football to stay ahead
of the stick so you can.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Get we want it, we wanted.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
This is a winning formula. It is shown to be
a winning for me. Stick with it when it works.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
It has worked at a historical pace This is my point.
I love it when we embrace debait, so fun, so good.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
I hear music.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
That means, you know, we got to hear about stuff
from the world of music that happened decades ago. It's
always very exciting to learn about Billy, Joel and Elton
John can't wait to learn more. We'll talk more about
the Green Bay Packers, the Steelers, Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love,
all of it coming up here on the other side

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of the break on, Carry the GU Radio, Carry the
GU Radio, wrapping up our one, wrapping up our one.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
What that's right, we're rolling.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
It's Tuesday mornings going forward, So make sure you're adjusting
your schedule so you clear it and you know you
can listen to Billy and I argue about play calling
versus execution.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Each and every week. That's the way you want to
wake up radio.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
That's the way to wake up on a club going
up Tuesday, It's the right way to go. And also
waking up early something that nags. As I started to
get older, I'm starting to appreciate it a little bit more.
I've now just found myself going out and watching the
sunrise during commercial breaks, feeling very old. Thirty one going
on fifty two.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Uh, sir, sir, I am fifty two.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
So just oh was that intentional?

Speaker 1 (34:08):
My man? Dialot back there a little bit, buddy, pilot back.

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Speaker 1 (34:39):
The Packers gotta get well, gotta get well, that is
for heal.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
I mean, they got a lot of guys banged up,
and it didn't sound like it didn't sound like we're
gonna have DeVante Wyatt or Lucas fan ness yet again
on Sunday against the Pittsburgh Steelers, which is unfortunate, it
is not great.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
But hopefully one more week.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
And we get those guys back because Gosh knows they
need them.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, and the Wyatt one, to me seems a little
bit and again I don't want to rank and file
and make it one more important than the other, but
that one just seems to me to be a little
bit more dire because of how much he does on
the interior and how much more accessible quarterbacks are to
Michael Parsons and Rashan Gary when they're getting flushed out
and can't step up in the middle of that pocket.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Although I will say I mean shout out to both
Kolbe Wooden and Carl Brooks, who I thought both played yeah,
extremely well down in Arizona. Now there were absolute you
know moments they're taking advantage of fleshed out, like you know,
washed out in the run game.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
They're certainly not a perfect game, but Brooks in particular
really caused some problems for the interior of the Arizona
offensive line, and he's gonna have to keep that up.
Try and make Aaron Rodgers uncomfortable on Sunday night, because
you know the adage, man, they ain't no mystery. You
got to play coverage against a superstar, MVP level quarterback
and future Hall of Famer who's seen everything, knows everything.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
You try and come after him with a blitz.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
You try and put pressure like exotics, some kind of
manufactured pressure.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
You're not, you're asking for trouble.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, that'll so that front four, that front in particular,
is going to have to win.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
And uh, you mentioned the coverage unit. We've gotten a
couple of messages on the Nick lay lot. I come
talking curtain graft and negs. What do you think of
Nate Hobbs. He couldn't even cover my grandma. With all
the money that they're paying him. I would bench him.
I know probably not they are, I know they probably won't,
but he's one of the worst corners in the league.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
From okay, let's let's let's let's slow down now.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
I understand it's frustrating when you see him give up
that go route to Marvin Harrison Junior in a big
spot right, or the dig route or the deep in
route which probably should have had some safety help there.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
But I get it.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
You've seen him get beat, no question about it. I
do think to your point, they're not gonna bench him.
They're gonna continue to roll him out there. And Matt
himself said when asked about it yesterday, he expects better,
he expects.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Him to get better. And I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
However, I do think Matt Lafleur's history is littered with
his faith in people and their ability to get better
and produce and develop that has not often been rewarded.
Whether it's oh, Joe Berry's gonna figure it out, whether
it's Amari Rodgers is going to figure it out. You know,

(37:34):
time and time again, he has had faith in people,
at least demonstrated faith in people, but they haven't really
rewarded that faith. So I hope that Nate Hobbs is
a exception to the rule. I do think it's Billy.
You were out there this summer before he got hurt,

(37:54):
he was everywhere on defense, and he was I would say,
just brought an attitude and brought a physicality and certainly
look the part the moment he got hurt and then
missed as much time as he did, and now they
have inserted him and it has not gone well. I
understand all that, but I gotta think the hope here

(38:15):
is that the more bank reps he gets in this defense,
the more time on task, on the grass, whatever you
want to call it, he will round into that form
that we saw at the start of the summer.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah, in Naggs when you have that much money committed,
and the Texter said it right there, Listen, there's only
one thing that you can do at this particular point
in time, right, work to have him figure it out, right,
because you have that kind of financials committed to him,
your pot committed and it needs to get better.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
You.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
As much as Carrington Valentine has earned himself opportunities to
play in the National Football League, he doesn't have forty
eight million dollars tied to his name, right, So like
there's gonna be there's levels to this stuff, as the
kids like to say, and he's gotta be out there
and you gotta get more. You absolutely do. You need
more from him than what you got in Dallas against

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Tolbert and Turpin and a little bit of Pickens, right,
And it's the matchups are only gonna get tougher. You
are gonna face Williams and Saint Brown, Justin Jefferson and Jordan.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Addison, LDK Metcalf coming up this upcoming.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Week, no doubt about it. And obviously those guys in
Chicago of a doonsay and more and they're playing well.
So like there's a lot of big time wide receiving duos,
not to mention the reigning defending Super Bowl champions that
are here in a couple of weeks, So you're gonna
need a lot more there. And I'm right there with
the coach and with the Texas, like, you can't have

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what we've seen from Hobbs be what you continue to get.
But I don't think he's going anywhere. He's gonna have
to work through it and you're gonna need a little
bit more from around to maybe help him out. And
Xavier McKinney, we had a phenomenal year a year ago,
and the interceptions obviously are the easiest way to see it,
but some splash plays do impact. And Evan Williams, I

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think he's a fine player. I don't think he had
his best game in.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
All his worst game of the year, the worst game
of the year on Sunday. And he's had a good season,
a really good season, but Sunday was rough.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
No question about it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
The thing with Hobbs too is you know they paid
him what they paid him. The contracts always gonna be
a conversation, but it's like, Okay, he has been phenomenal
in the slot in the past, but he's being asked
to play outside. And I know that was their quote vision, right,
and they didn't talk about, oh, we're gonna move him
back and forth, right. I do think it's about time
maybe he gets more looks in the slot closer to

(40:34):
the line of scrimmage. Use that physicality that we've seen.
You know, I don't doubt for a moment he's gonna
get opportunities. I wouldn't hate it if he got some
run in the slot, offering up like his physicality against
the run, he's shown.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
He's a willing tackler, right, he is a physical dude.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
I would like to see him be able to utilize
some of that a little bit more because playing on
the perimeter has not been kind to Nate Hobbs.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
No, it really hasn't. That that is not And I
like you mentioned the deep in Uh that's the one
that I think a lot of people remember here. It's
also like the exact same route. I feel like he
got beat on in Dallas for a big third down,
So like it starts the bankup and people are gonna
start seeing, all right, twenty ones out there, we're going
pick on them.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
That's where they're going until you do.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Until you do, try to change it up and like
you mentioned, throw some different Throw some variables out there,
line them up in the slot, find a couple of
different ways to get him on the field, because he's
gonna have to be a part of the fifty three,
and more importantly, he's gonna have to be a part
of the eleven on defense.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
With that paycheck, He's gonna play. There's no question about it.
We're gonna play here.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Carry the G Radio every Tuesday morning.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Nothing.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
We got more coming at you, more coming at you
after this break?

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Billy Packers by how many on Sunday night? That's my question?

Speaker 3 (41:49):
oOoOO, Well, listen, I have not been good at predicting
the blowout victories. So I'll take two and feel okay
with it.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
There you go, there you go. I love it. Well
that's Bill, This is Aaron.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
This is Carry the G Radio coming at you every Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
We'll be back right after this.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Carry the G Radio Hour two rolls on Aaron Egler
coming to you live from New York City. Bill Schmid
there in the greater Milwaukee area. Shout out to James
Alexander joining the Carry the G Club on YouTube via
G's at TV. Appreciate you, James, appreciate the support, Billy.
I mean, here we are, we're at a time when

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the Packers sit atop the NFC and no Packers fan
is happy. Like, I don't remember when things got so
miserable around the Green and Gold, because it is a
really good time to be a Packers fan. But you
would never know it looking online.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
No crazy, instead looking online. I just read the caption
for a friend of ours podcast that said, should Matt
Lafleur be fired?

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Oh god? Oh this I mean, like it's.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
It's pretty impressive when you're for one and one, Yeah,
the number, you have, a top five offense and expected
yards per play or yards per attempt EPA as the
kids called these days, your top ten and scoring yep,
you've only lost one game.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Uh and it was a the best record in the conference.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Wild collapse game.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
I do struggle that that's the conversation that we have.
But you know, here we.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Are, we don't have that conversation.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah we don't. Yeah, but for some reason.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah, what is weird though, because I don't know if
you saw. Greg Rosenthal from NFL Media had a tweet
out on Sunday which was I legit, guffawed like, laughed
out loud, whatever you want to say, he said. I
listened to a lot of team specific podcasts, and none
of you are happy.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
And it does feel like, you know, because the product.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
I mean, there are a lot of teams struggling. Right,
there's no far and away head and shoulders above the rest,
unless maybe you could say that about the Colts.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Right.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
The Cults are playing good ball week in and week out,
no question about that. But the majority of NFL teams
have issues. Like look no further than last night and
the first kind of half of that Buccaneers Lions game,
and tell me you're worried about facing either one of
those teams.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Yeah, that's fair, Like, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Like, teams have issues.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Teams have problems, including the Packers, and it doesn't matter
what those issues and problems are right now as they
continue to work on them, hopefully improve upon them, and
then hit the ground run and so to speak, at
the start of December into January, you want to be playing.
That's when you want to be playing your best ball.
But like right now in October, it doesn't matter what

(44:35):
it looks like. I keep seeing people talk about the
eye test. They don't look right, like they're not supposed
to look right. All they're supposed to do is playball,
get w's, and get better weekend and week out.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
And the tough part about it is nags. And again,
maybe this is just watching a lot of football and
consuming as much of it as humanly possible. But they
are things that you do really really well right now.
I got news for you, you probably won't do very
very well in November. Like there's things that are gonna
be the staple of your identity in September that you're
not running much of in November. Like you have to

(45:08):
evolve and you will continue to go through the ebbs
and flows of a season. That's just the human effect
of the game and the people that are in the
uniforms of it. But I did like that take from
from Rosenthal, and I think it is spot on. When
you look around the landscape of the NFL, there's a
lot of really average teams, there's a lot of good teams.
There's really no truly great elite separation right now, And

(45:33):
again I think maybe that's maybe that's unique. A lot
of times there's an undefeated team at this point maybe
there's a team that rolls off and goes ten to one,
like the Eagles a couple of years ago, and then
they ended up as the five seed and got run
out of the gym.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
So like it.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
I just I struggled to want to be the best
team in October and when we had a text caller
the other day, not this past week. Week before again,
after the first win in a month against the Cincinnati Bengals,
who again at the time we didn't realize we're good.
Then they went and beat the Pittsburgh Steelers, who he
just saw. And again I still don't know that they're
that good, but they had they had a good game,

(46:12):
and they got really really good players. And each week
you're gonna face Pro Bowl to all Pro caliber players.
Budda Baker played phenomenally this week.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
He's so he's one of the best of secondary players.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Lights out on that one here, Yeah, my god.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
And he had a good game. Like there is, there's
levels to how much you can dominate the individual team.
And I hear that word and we had the one
person say it, Nags. I just I watched Saturdays and
I watched Sundays. There's no Saturday teams on Sundays, And
what I mean by that is roll up and be
a twenty five and a half point dog.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
There's no perdues on your schedule.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
There ain't no homecoming game, there's no home it's all
do or die.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Yeah, it's gonna be big time games each and every week,
and you're gonna have the opportunity to get plastered either week.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Not just beat.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
You can get beat ump each and every week potentially.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Well, we talked about it earlier too, because that's the
thing where you talk about trying to improve from week
to week, and you are trying to hone what you
do well carry that forward, and then the problems, the
issues trying to iron that out obviously, But that's why
when you have a day like they had on third down,
it really jumps off the screen, off the you know,
the grass, whatever you want to call it, because they

(47:31):
had been so good on third down and then to
have such problems on third down, which of course leads
to shortened drives, truncated scoring opportunities. That was such a
frustrating kind of stretch there in the first half. But
what you love coming out of that game and out
of that second half is how they turned it around

(47:51):
like that is not inconsiderable, That is not dismissal. Like
that is a real testament to a team that found
a way to figure out out in a tough environment
on the road. Billy, they they had to switch planes.
They were very late getting in the night before. I mean,
I kind of joke because I kept coming back to
the honest thing. It's like, you know, we're our hotel

(48:17):
still getting yeah whatever, Like you know what I mean.
So it's like I did get it, You're out of
your routine whatever. That is something you do have to
overcome a little bit. But way more important than that
was they didn't play near their best ball in that
first half and they still found a way to turn
it around and come out victorious in the second half.
And there are huge moments like the fourth down stop

(48:39):
on defense, the big fourth and two conversion. Those are
the moments that you will draw upon as the season
goes forward, knowing you can do it because you've done
it already.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Yeah, And like there's there's each team has to learn that,
like okay, sweet, we've we've seen it. Two years ago
they won a game like this, Fans remember that a
whole lot more than players on the do until you're
in in it with this group of guys and you've
already proved Adjason the Electrician on our talking text line
set up. It's like, when you know your kid can
get an A plus or get straight a's and they're

(49:11):
bringing home c's, You're not devastated, You're just disappointed because
you know they have the potential and it's just not
showing itself.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
That's the most dad text I've ever heard in my life.
I mean, come on, you always pull that out on
your kids, right I do I know that. I mean
I've got very older children now, and like absolutely when
it is, you know, time to have that talk and
they've done something. I've only got one kid left in
high school, and when she has a backgrade or whatever,
it is always that is the classic.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
I'm just disappointed. My little guy just laughs at me
with that one right now. I just I looked at him,
I'm like, dude, you know you're not supposed to throw
these out of the He just looks like, yeah, Dad,
guess what handful out of take that? What are you
gonna do?

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Now?

Speaker 3 (49:58):
You got to get better at that Eric in the Prairie.
It was a tongue in cheek headline. Billy, my goodness,
it might have been on this should Matt Leafleur be fired? Uh,
you can think it is, and it might be. However,
I know, yeah, more people trying to say that. Yeah,
all right, I'm glad you thought the same thing.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Oh, come on, like, oh why and why was that
headline used? Hmmm?

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Interesting?

Speaker 1 (50:23):
I don't know what could potentially be the reason.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
I just because people that are clicking aren't yelling at
and screaming it and saying it to their couch cushions
throughout the week.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Or tweeting it every thirty seconds during the game. That's
the other thing.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Billy. Can we stop? I mean, I know, regular Chee.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Said, TV viewers and listeners are gonna know exactly where
I'm going with this, But man, can we stop making
every play and every drive and every decision a referendum
on everything and everybody there there's this play or this
call or this decision off to ever fire him or

(51:02):
there's this result that you think is bad, and blah
blah blah, oh fire him.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
You gotta you gotta get rid of this guy.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Like just watch the game, watch it play out, watch
the season play out, and then at the end of
the year talk about it.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
You want to talk about who should be continuing and
who should be gone and all this stuff, But namely,
a time, maybe once out of one hundred and fifty times,
where people have been fired in season in whatever capacity,
head coach, coordinat or whatever, and things improve within the operation.
It is just not a good way to operate. Bad

(51:43):
teams do it. The Packers are not a bad team,
They're not a bad franchise. They're not about to become one.
But that's what you're begging for when you talk about
people needing to be fired.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
We need to get we need to hold people accountable.
This is ridiculous. We need we need to hold people accountable.
Next if the same thing happens, that's what happens. You get,
you get fired. The other part of it is there's
not there's not alternatives. And I do think where you
just mentioned the uh referendum on it is like, oh,
Jordan love airmail to pass off to the left side.
This guy's never gonna win a super.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Bowl, never gonna win a super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
And my point is exactly they do the same thing,
and again they've done it with Jalen Hurts. He goes
off and wins the thing, and then the next year
they're going right back to it. Now he throws for
four incompletions in three tugs against the Vikings, and it's like, yeah,
but who wouldn't have had that day? Okay, maybe I
guess we can have more more opportunity to run through it,

(52:38):
But I also think there's it's just more fun to
focus on the negative then look at some of the
positive parts of it, right, like.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Of which there are many.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
There's a lot more of them, no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
I just it's tiring, and I guess maybe it's my
own fault for my own chosen profession here. You know,
chiefs at TV twenty four to seven, three sixty five,
marinating and everything and all of it.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
When it comes to the packers.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
It's just, you know, it's tough when that's all you
hear is the negative stuff and all you see is
the negative stuff.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
And it's like, I.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Understand there's tons of great positive fans out there, of
which you'll be talking to a bunch of tonight on
the chief said TV Happy Hour it's always a great,
great collection of folks, although there are some yours there
too as well. But I just ask that people take
a breath, watch the game, watch the season play out,
and then have those discussions like the firing stuff. It's

(53:34):
just that blows my mind. That is exactly how the
Jets would operate. If you want to emulate the Jets,
go right ahead.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
But that is not how the Green Bay Packers are
not are going to operate.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
No, it's not a way that you continually have a
bunch of sustained success. And again that sounds like a
bad thing because people just equated with the Brewers and lost.
It hasn't won championships, but it continues to have you
in the dance and with an opportunity. I also think
the part of wanting to see more from the organization
and more from the football team is because they know

(54:06):
that there is a lot of talent on here. And
I had another text from the unicolay lot dot com
talking text on Jeremy and Oshkosh said, do you agree
with this post I saw on X A coach's job
is to develop players, not saying Matthew Golden has to
be a superstar in year one, but through six games,
Matt Lafleur hasn't schemed up a single red zone target

(54:28):
for his first round wide receiver. Draw up a touchdown,
get your rookies confidence going, that's literally your job now.
I would I don't know where this came from, who
it was or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Disagree with this promise, yeah, neg I.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Would disagree with the most part of I think I've
seen them try to draw up like twelve touchdowns for
him and it just hasn't worked, especially because we were
in the stands or we were in the house in
the Washington game where they He's pritty, tried to throw
the first two touchdowns of the game to him and
just near Alenis twice.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
MVP on the jeez a TV chat quote, draw up
a touchdown. Why hasn't anyone thought of that before?

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Run the touchdown?

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Play? Okay, call the touchdown play, touchdown play gold got
it sweet, let's go. Look. Look.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Also, by the way, I also know for a fact
that one of the attempted moments where they tried to
manufacture a touchdown for Golden, he ran the wrong route.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
So you know, yes, you.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Are developing players, but look at last night with Tampa Bay,
everyone going off about their rookie receiver getting these looks
and whatever, which is great. He's talented, no doubt about it.
Big conversation around him in a multi score loss, Like,
your job as a coach is to.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Win football games.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Yes, you will be developing guys along the way, no
doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
But man, this ain't kindergarten. You didn't get handing out
ice cream cones. Oh what tou's down for you? A
little billy like?

Speaker 2 (55:56):
No, you hand the ball to Josh Jacobs, you get
in the end zone, you go to the sideline like. No,
absolutely not is the idea. We've got to make sure
Matthew Golden gets a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
No, the same, Pop Warner.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
The tough thing is you do that, and you schedule
those parts for the homecoming games that we referenced a
little bit earlier in the segment, right that those are
the games where you can walk in.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Touchdowns in the second half. Then you draw up the player,
then you draw.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Up something for there. But again, Naggs, like you mentioned it,
there's definitely been at least on a number of different occasions,
and a couple very very specifically that we can point
to where it's been drawn up. He's the number one
read it's going to be a touchdown, and uh, for
some reason or another, sometimes by the fault of the
rookie wide receiver. Some on the other side, they get
paid to right and they can sniff it out and

(56:43):
they can stop it. But I do believe, and I
think that I've actually been maybe more surprised than not
that there have been a number of different times it's
pretty evident that he's the number one option, that he
is the guy they're trying to get the football too,
and teams are i think almost concerned enough about his
speed right now nags that he's one of their first
options that they're trying to not necessarily take away, but

(57:06):
they're guarding against the broken tackle in that dude going
forward to nine to the crib.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
And look, it's funny because it makes sense given how
he's already produced in a number of really kind of
clutch moments. Right I thought for sure the fourth and
two yesterday Sunday was going to him. I think I
said as much on Watch Party, because look, they have
gone to him in really important, got to have it moments.
I mean, the biggest of which was fourth and six
down in Dallas in overtime. They don't get that game's over.

(57:35):
But I understand teams taking him seriously, no doubt about it,
and you don't want to force it.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Now. Is it frustrating when.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
You see him early in that game on Sunday, a
couple of receptions and then he somewhat disappears seemingly for
a couple quarters before you.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Know he's back in the mix. I get it.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
I understand that that is frustrating. But it is not
your job to force feed the kid. It is not
your job to make sure he gets his Your job
as a coach is to win football games.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Yeah, the Packers have done that a bunch of times.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
No, And I think the other one is Naggs. Like
when uh and Drew Olsen and I had a lot
of fun doing this after or during the Washington game
where you know, they got Christian Watson a contract extension
during the week and a lot of talk about Matthew
Golden and you know what that might be the time of, Hey,
what if we solo o Romeo dobs over here under

(58:29):
the sideline and let's let's give him a chance to
eat real quick slant route into the end zone. Touchdown
that can happen. That's four years in. That's some equity.
We don't just hand those out to the first year guys.
Let's trust seeing.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Them do it. Yeah, have you done it together?

Speaker 3 (58:46):
We gotta get we gotta get to that level before
we're writing in all right, game plan, let's drop that
touchdown play really quick. I do want that though. I
got to figure out where that design is because I'm
running the absolute hell out of it.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
And Matt I'm gonna I'm gonna get some Madden going
out for this, and I'm gonna run the touchdown play.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
I'm gonna I'm gonna drawp a touchdown touch.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
I like it a lot more.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Shan't wait. I hear the music. That means we gotta
take a break.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
We'll talk more about the Steelers, the Packers, maybe a
little bit of the Cardinals game. Still on the flip
side for Billy, I'm Aaron. This is Carry the G
Radio about coming in with a banger. Let's go Billy.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Not so. As we roll into the.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Final half hour soon to be of Carry the G
Radio this week, I want to give kuay Walker a
shout out because he played one hell of a game
on Sunday. I look again, as we talked about before
with with Brooks and Wooden, are there plays he'd like
to have back?

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Are there plays where maybe he gets a little.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Take advantage of in the run game in particular, Yes,
no question about it. But on balance, he had a
hell of a game rushing the quarterback his physicality, especially
with these running backs trying to block him and failing miserably.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
That was fun.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
It was great to see him be able to kind
of unleash that aggression.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Obviously like to keep.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
The hands away from the quarterback's face a little bit
there on that first one, But for the most part, man,
that more of that, please, I'd love to see some
of that on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
In Aaron Rodgers face.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Yeah, And I think we've seen a lot more aggression
from seven, maybe a little bit tempered aggression from fifty six.
Maybe we would like see a little bit more of that.
But I'm right there with you, and I'm excited also,
Nags that I'm finally able to say something that is
one of my least favorite things to hear on Packers.
Ot is the guy before me kind of stole my thunder?
That was one of the texts that I was going
to read here was full the four to one four

(01:00:37):
that said kway Walker has been playing so well or
is it just me? It seems like people only point
out the negative with him. He does a lot of times,
and I also think nags that specific position a lot
of times. The negatives get pointed out because you're around
the football all the time. You're supposed to be in
on just about every single tackle, and then it's well,

(01:00:59):
this guy, it only makes tackles past the line of scrimmage.
While that is kind of his job, that is the
job to do. But he has been playing so with
such a purpose and the physicality, like you mentioned that
is that's so imperative for them to be able to
feed off the emotion of that defense. They get hats
to the ball, but somebody's got to lay a boom,
and that's definitely been Number seven mostly, And he is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Going to get those opportunities because of the way teams
have to play the Packers like they want to paper
cut you to death. He is going to be around
the football a whole bunch, right Like there are gonna
be moments where he does get juked by the running
back or maybe he does get carried for a yard
or two.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
In the run game I after contact.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
I understand that's frustrating, But on balance, as a whole,
his game was exemplary on Sunday, and you love to
see how not just those kind of quote unquote regular
plays where he's cleaning up whatever, but also halfly utilizing
him as a weapon big time. That's exciting to see,
and that again, you put it on tape. Team's got

(01:01:58):
to start to worry about it, and there's a lot
to worry about watching that game if you're an opponent.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. And I also
just think that that consistently his name has gotten brought up,
as the Texter said, a lot more in the negative
because people do just want like yeah, just like again,
aj Hawk left some to be desired, however, a damn
good football player.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
And really really good up.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
However, he wasn't Brian Urlacker, right, So like, there's there's
always gonna be uh possibility to grow there, and we
want to be able to continue to look for that growth.
I did like this one from ran Cartman. We're going
to try to grow. My man said, uh, well, you
two quit bitching about fans bitching. Two wrongs don't make
it right now, I do like that, But three wrongs
do make a left. And at some point, if we
can continue to turn this thing around where we make

(01:02:41):
all of the negative feel like a positive, that's what
I think we're saying that. Absolutely we hear it. We
hear a lot of it, probably more than there should be.
But the fact that there's this much griping with a
four to one in one team means that there's a
lot of room for improvement. And when you're already four
to one in one and you still have that kind
of room for improvement, we are going to be a
potential wagon. Come see.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
I like how you turn that around into a positive
because my first initial reaction is, so you're bitching about us,
bitching about fans bitching.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
See, that's the three wrongs, and now we made it
left an now we're in the rights era.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
It's like it's like the inception of bitching.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
That's we're so levels deep here, like, man, I'm sorry,
that's my reality and I'm the one with the microphone,
Like you're welcome to turn us off, but I'm sorry,
I'm gonna talk about what I see what I hear
and when I experience when I follow the Green Bay Packers,
and right now there are so many miserable Packers fans
for a team that is number one in the conference.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
It is driving me insane. There now I've said my piece.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
That's gonna be a perfect clip for Tyler. He had
is a perfect, perfect clip.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
There's no way Tyler's making it this far into the program.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Oh that's true. An hour and twenty seven minutes in.
Man is a sleep at that point.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Yeah, no, not a minutes. Ops. If you find something
the clip, you will, but this deep no way might be.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Like might be seven or eight minutes in. Because he
went to the game this weekend right still probably nursing
a couple of day hangover. I saw my man cooking
it up, just having himself a big old steak dinner.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
So you know what, Yeah, that's what's happ night, right,
That's that's that's the way to go.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
I think club sandwich last night for dinner.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
Can never go wrong, though, I would say, especially if
somebody makes the sandwich for you. The sandwiches are always
better when somebody makes it for you. True it is,
I will say. Tobacco into our first hour conversation of
the awkward lull in the conversation to the floor, I
do want somebody to throw that question at him really quick,
like how do you make your steak? Just start the

(01:04:38):
day and see how he responds. On a Friday, ever
get him?

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
If we ever get him back on transplants, I will
I will launch into that will please, How.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Are you cooking the steak? But are we going? Are
we going flat iron? We going flat top and going
charcoal grill? You run in the gas, you smoking it
and then finishing it off with a cast iron skillet?
What do we doing, coach? How are we taking it medium, medium, rare?
Or maybe he's a well done guy. He just soaks
it with a one scared.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
I'm scared to ask the question because that might be
the answer, and then I can't respect him ever again.
You know, it's like anything he's ever done on the
football field as the head coach of the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
If he's a well done state guy, that's it. I
have to part ways.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
I don't think he can call for his firing, that's
what the podcast. But I will say him drinking the
line with you guys before the season there's no way
a wine drinker like that's going medium well on the
state or well, I hope not.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
I just can't. I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
I can't fathom that, But I can fathom what. I
tell you what I can fathom the Green Bay Packers
on offense starting to lean into I know that we're
so excited about the return of Christian Watson, right we
have a couple of people in the chat talking about
how he should help open things up, like U zaying
talking about how did you see al Rashi Rice coming
back to the Chiefs really made them look good, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
And you're not wrong on.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
What I would like to see though, is the Packers
lean into more thirteen personnel, more tight ends on the feet,
and then maybe like a single wide receiver in Christian
Wantson or Matthew Golden or whoever like, start to utilize
more personnel groupings, because you know, it felt like in
that game on Sunday we were talking about Golden disappearing, right,

(01:06:23):
and it felt really disjointed at times on offense, and
it feels like they're kind of searching for how to
make this group of receivers work together. Maybe that changes
with Watson, but it feels like they've got you again, Billy.
You were there this summer. Luke Musgrave had a phenomenal
training camp. He has barely been utilized at all, and

(01:06:45):
when he finally did get thrown to, Jordan Love sailed it,
you know, against the Bengals last week. So I just
think if they could start maybe possibly you know, rolling
in some other personnel groups, they might find a few
more avenues to you know, not maybe not have so
many kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Drives where they stub their toe right, because this is
a team.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
And I heard Mina Kimes talk about this with Sam
monson last week. They were like, there's so many drives
where they have the scoring drive that looks effortless, but
in between that and the next scoring drive, there are
always like two or three drives where it just looks
completely disjointed and they they are out either three an
hour or they get one first down, they're off the field.

(01:07:29):
Just that kind of ability to elongate your drives and
just throw the defense some curveballs. I think that could
really potentially help Lafloor in the offense.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
Yeah, they can throw one at you for a nine play,
sixty eight yard drive and run five minutes off the
clock and be pretty workman like and score a touchdown,
and then the next drive out it's like three plays,
one yard, two minutes. Yep, that was weird. And that's
the true complimentary style. And again that's a drop in
the bucket or like a dollar in the jaw jar.

(01:08:00):
People are gonna start laughing and like, all right, we
hear complimentary football way too much. But we always would
joke about it as a score, stop score. That was
the that was the tagline for it. Score, get a stop,
get a score.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
Those are the game.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Those are the three piece combo platters that you have
to have to ultimately control games. Right now, they can
throw an entree out in front of you and then
it's like, okay, sweet, we finished that, and now what
we have, I'm still kind of hungry. You need a
little bit more. Okay, got to go back up to it,
got to restart the process. Then we get another drive
in the middle of it. I think the greatest example
of it is right after Haversek hits the sixty one yarder,

(01:08:33):
the one play seven seconds boom, You've got a chance
to double up coming out of the break, immediately take
control of the football game.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
And wait, tough to watch, man.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
The Packers got the ball first, like you walk in
if you went out to go get food at halftime,
if you got back and Jacoby Brissett is starting on offense,
and you're like, wait a second, I thought the Packers
got the ball first. That's how quickly it changed. So
like being able to capitalize on the momentum, that's the
one part that you still also have to see. But

(01:09:04):
that's how you blow double digit leads. Right, they've had
double digit leads in five of their first six games now,
but now they've found ways to Now we got to
figure out how we climb back into games, and that's
doubling up score, stop score, re establishing momentum in the game.
And Larry McCarron called it out before the Cardinals got

(01:09:24):
the score to tie it at twenty. I believe he
had said it. He's like, feels like we're starting to
take Advan take over the game. Pardon me to make
it twenty to thirteen. Right after the Packers tied it
up at thirteen in the drive, he's like, it feels
like the Packers are starting to take control of this game.
Then I think the Cardinals get a third and thirteen,
So it's like just that one moment to slam the

(01:09:46):
door and put a nail into the coffin. You're right,
that's the frustrating part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
It is, and it's not for a lack of talent
and the way they've tried to kind of utilize things
in various ways offensively, whether it is you know, some
of the run game stuff that has really been frustrating
because of the inconsistency up front, Like the run blocking
has just not been there on a consistent basis in
any way, shape or form, and what success they have

(01:10:13):
had has mostly been due to the backs, Right, it's
been Josh Jacobs making stuff happen either at or even
behind the line of scrimmage, or even Emmanuel Wilson has
had to contribute in that regard, Like there just has
not been a ton to work with as a running
back in this offense. But what I would love is
if they got back to some of that kind of
outside zone stuff that we saw in twenty twenty three. Sure,

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yep was so effective with Aaron Jones, and I understand
it's a very different offense, different running back, et cetera,
But man, they cooked with gas off of that action
into play action, into boot action, and it feels like
that's where Jordan really thrives. It feels like that really
plays to his strengths. We just haven't seen a ton
of it. I'm hoping we get some more of that

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as the year goes on again. The offensive line is
a work in progress. They've had hey, two games in
a row now, Billy, where they've actually had the majority
of the same offensive linemen there out in the field
for almost the entire game. Yeah, that should start to
pay some dividends, right, because they were so jumbled up
throughout the first what four or five games. To finally

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get a little bit of cohesion up front. I know,
not everyone's covering themselves in glory, but at least they're
all playing together and hopefully improving and developing together as
a unit. Because until they get you know, a little
bit more consistent play up front in the run game,
it is going to continue to be very hit and
miss on the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
I'll be honest, Nags. One of the biggest surprises of
the game was that we had six individuals on the
snap chart that played all one percent of the snaps,
right and that you didn't see that that you just
locked it in and kept it in. Jordan Morgan play
the whole game. Feel how you can roll and get
yourself into a groove. I wonder if that's kind of
the way that they're going to go moving forward, because

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I thought, again, did he have one hundred percent clean bill?
Absolutely not, But I thought overall he overall he played
well and when they stood up into the end zone
and when they're finding ways to finish drives seventy seven
has been finishing his block into the end zone, which
I love being.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Able to see.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Yeah, of course you're your alignment. You know this, Yes,
we want to see anymore. You want to see the pancakes,
you want to see taking of souls.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
I also like that he's early into the celebration.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Like that's he's the one instigating it almost.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
Everything again because that that was your boy, Like whenever
there was a celebration to have, we were going to
be there. Now that was the fastest you'd run, especially
as I have toleration to the celebration. Fastest you went
off the field, slowest you run, because maybe they'll get
a shot of you on the camera when they're going
right towards the goal line, like, oh man, my man's

(01:12:50):
still on the field there. That's the one time get
the screen.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
I know him.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Yeah, you're otherwise, you know, you're not talked about unless
you're committing a pedal.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
No, but Jordan Morgan was in there celebrating. He's got
the big chest up with Tucker Craft instantly and for
him to play all one of the snaff we haven't
seen that quite often, if at all, really in his
career yet.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
And you love to see it, like I said, a
little bit of continuity, a little bit of hopefully cohesion upfront.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Loving to see that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
And here's the other thing, like we talked about the
first segment kind of top of the show, this is
a team in Pittsburgh with the Steelers who obviously Tomlin
been there forever. This defense has been their mainstay, their
calling card. There's a defense they can get got. This
is a defense that the Packers should be able to

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work against, especially on the ground where the Packers have
not been great.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
But there's an opportunity here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Not saying it's gonna happen, nothing's automatic, but this is
a game where I suspect they probably lean into the
running game a little bit, even more so than they have,
because there should be opportunity and production waiting for them.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Yeah, and in a football town like Pittsburgh, is nothing
gonna be more demoralizing to the fans than watching their
team get run on. Like I think that's also a
part of it. We had this one from Tom and
Kentucky Nags. Billy, I'm upset. Why aren't the Packers the
super mega number one overall seed. Matt Laflour should be fired. However,
I feel like our problem is more on defense than

(01:14:18):
on offense. Just scheming up to the we're better than
you plays like a Walker Blitz Tucker Craft fourth down conversion.
We need more of that. I do like that. That's
the we're gonna rub your nose in it, and you
know exactly what we're gonna do, and you're just gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Have to do it. Take it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
We're getting there. We're we're getting there. But I do
like that from time, the super mega number one seed.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Super mega number one seed, that is the goal, obviously,
not to win the super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Super Mega number one seed.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
They're raising a banner about in Detroit. That's why they
had those midnight Black uniforms last night unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
You know, I want to hate on the Lions because
it's fun. They're they're they're you know, their fans are
completely unhinged. They've found some some success and that's great.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Man. I gotta tell you, I love Dan Campbell, Dan Campbell.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
Mad Holmes. He's an electri factory.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Remember how the whole offseason the only conversation around the
Lions was the loss of the two coordinators and how
are they gonna respond and what was it going to
look like? Look at that defense last night. They're down everybody,
and I mean everybody in the secondary and they're still
playing sticky man.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Coverage and hitting the hell out of people.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Like that's a reflection of your head coach, Like I
get the coordinator gets respect, no doubt about It's all
the plays he's making it happen. But that's a reflection
of the coach and that reflects well on him that
they are down one hundred dudes and they're still playing
lights out ball. That is that's impressive stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
And the way that he empowers Shepherd as the DC
that that's pretty important too. I saw him with Chris
Long earlier this year and again, it's fun.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
It's more one of the best one of the best
things to consume as a football fan is the Chris
Long Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
And he did a He sat down with DC with
MotorCity Dan Campbell earlier this year during training camp and
said it like Shepherd looked at him and said, I
want to be a head coach. I think I gotta
cut my hair. Dan's like, man, are you kidding me?
Just to know that that's man, what you're about, and
that's how much you're passionate to get here and be
a part of this. Man, Oh my god. I love that,

(01:16:22):
like that part of it, to know, hey, uh, you're you.
We're gonna make sure that we get the best version
out of you. And I don't change because I ain't changing.
I just talked about biting people's knee caps at the
press conference. People laughed at me, wanted to laugh me
out of the NFL and look at me now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
So I like that part.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
He's unapologetically himself and that's a great thing to have
in the NFL, no doubt about it. I just wish
it was for another team.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
MPB nails it though, still gonna smoke him like a
turkey in a month.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And I definitely would still like
him to go and take the Texas A and M job.
I wanted him to take that Texas A and M
job last year so badly. We're finding a way to
get O'Connell at Miami job.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Just you wait, gotta happen.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Come out of the division, get them out, Oh the division.
We're gonna get out of here for a break. But
we'll be back on the flip side to wrap up.
Carry the G Radio. It's Aaron Nagler and Bill Schmid Carry.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
The G Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Carry the G Radio, wrapping things up after another phenomenal
stretch with Bill Schmid. Aaron Nagler here, coming to you
live from New York City. Bill, I gotta tell you
this is a team that I cannot wait to see
take the field Sunday night and those Road Whites nationally
televised game against their old quarterback. You know, it's one

(01:17:41):
of those moments you just live for as a football fan.
Forget about Packers. Being a Packers fan, yeah obviously we are,
but man, just a football fandom. Sunday Night is what
it's all about. It's gonna be so much fun. I
cannot wait.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Yeah, the Packers gotta be NBC's absolute favorite team, cause
a month to go, they get the trip down to
Dallas for the spectacle that was and a phenomenal football game.
This one is going to be right there with it,
although I don't know if it's getting as much attention
as I kind of anticipated it would. Now again, it's Tuesday, right,

(01:18:17):
it's early. It's early. It's Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
That first injury report on Wednesday, it's gonna be cooking.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
And then Thursday, reportedly Aaron is gonna meet with the
Green Bay media on a zoom call, So there'll be
some some conversation there and a lot of great laughs
and a good I imagine twenty minutes and hopefully a
good out of left field question by Steph Sutton that
Aaron can be happy about and enjoy and shout out,
shout out, sudden, shout out Steph Soud And that was

(01:18:42):
one of my favorite moments of all time when he
threw that in there, the great question, and just like
being able to throw that one in there is awesome.
And also I just there's a lot to reunions, and
I know this isn't a reunion. He's gonna be on
the other side, is going to for the rest of
the season, but uh, Aaron is going to It's gonna

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be easier for Aaron to come back to Green Bay.
I don't believe there's as much, if any real bad
blood and can't take rous nature. There's a couple of
individuals that probably don't love each other and vice versa.
But the respect is an admiration is still through the roof.
And uh, I just wish the game was that Lambeau.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
That's the only kind of drawback here, right, and could
have had that if Minnesota just got out of.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
Their own way.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
Yeah, figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Aaron Rodgers wanted to be a Viking. The Vikings were like,
now we're good.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
You think they're uh, you think they're kicking themselves at all?

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Maybe just a little bit, possibly Aaron, but you know
they're they're gonna develop this young JJ.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
McCarthy totally, yeah, totally. I'm excited. I'm excited to see it. Uh,
not only Aaron, but uh Sam darnold.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Anyone anyone looking good last night?

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
I mean goodness, gracious, Oh Andrew Ludwig threw a good
stat uh tidbit at us far with The Vikings also
wore throwbacks in two thousand and nine when they first
played against the Green Bay Packers. That's an interesting one.
I like that now. I do like appreciate the Viking
throwbacks from that time a lot more than the Steelers one.
The Steelers ki.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
You have the perfect opportunity for just the classic Steelers
Packers uniform matchup, and they go and screw it all up.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Yeah, what do we do?

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Were these when you play Carolina? You know, I mean
that's what That's what the respectable organization like the Packers does,
wait for the throwback homecoming day when Carolina comes to town.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Although we did wear the throwbacks last year Detroit.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
Came well yeah, and we well the.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
Probably probably lost the game.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
Probably was we thought we were gonna put a homecoming
whooping on him instead it was the other way around.
Now we also but that was just always a part
of the deal. Detroit forgot to wear the right on Thanksgiving.
You would always wear the old school jerseys, and that
was the problem. They just forgot.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
You have the classic shot of Brett Farv and I'm
on Green chowing down on some turkeyback.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
God, it's so good.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
We got a lot of time before that one comes.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
Out, a lot before we get to Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
I am I am excited also, not only to obviously
watch the quarterback and everything that goes on there, but
you mentioned the defense, uh in the gettable nature of
this Steelers defense hasn't been like that for a while.
How the Packers are able to frustrate not only TJ. Watt,
but Nick Krbig had himself a big day a couple
of weeks ago as well. There's a lot of Wisconsin

(01:21:40):
Badger flavor to that Pittsburgh Steeler defense, and uh like
good versions of Wisconsin Badger defense to be able to watch.
So it's fun to not only see the man that's
gonna be the trigger guy on the other side, but
a lot of former Badgers out of that Steelers team.
So this is a good matchup, the one that I
wish that we saw a little bit more often.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Going to be interesting to see the Zach Tom TJ.
Watt great battle in this game. I mean Zach I
think has has played good football, hasn't played great football,
and he certainly had a few.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
GOLP type moments down in Arizona.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
I would say later there are two plays in particular
where he gave up that edge pretty quickly and certainly
on Sunday night.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Can't be having it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Cannot be having it, And maybe they pay extra attention
to TJ.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
I suspect they will.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
But yeah, you talk about a matchup to watch that
is going to be a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
And I think some of what Tom is doing is
trying to work through the injury and figure out how
to play with and re establish his leverage without it.
But to your point next TJ. Watt's gonna take no prisoners,
and he has been a little bit again. He still
has the massive splash player. The pick against their Minnesota
is fhomenal that he has. Yeah, but like great pass

(01:22:57):
rushers do, at certain times, they can be neutralized the
point where like, oh wait, there he is. There are
still maybe more times that that happens recently with Wat.
Although his high end stuff is still right there. I'm
taking none away from that. He's still splash players are
right there, but it feels like there are more times
during the game where he kind of blends in than

(01:23:18):
just stands out throughout the night.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
Agree, I think some of that is people's approach too,
though you know it's like to got the obvious like
slide protection, you gotta chip from the tight end. You've
got a running back coming up on you, and that
he's going to get that attention, right, that is just
his lot in life. But you've also got play design
that is like legit designed to get away from him
as fast as possible, whether it's getting the ball out

(01:23:41):
of the quarterback's hands, whether it's a pitch play away
from him, like they teams are legitimately trying to stay
away from him as much as possible. I don't know
if we continue that trend on Sunday, but I do
think he's obviously going to get attention. It's going to
be fascinating to watch because I think Week one Packers
did a phenomenal job of neutralizing Hutchinson. Week three felt

(01:24:05):
like they went a little overboard with Miles Garrett to
their detriment. So I'm very very curious to see how
they what kind of approach they take with TJ.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
Watt.

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
Yeah, because there's other guys on that line that can
be urt you, and they will bring heat, they will
bring different looks at you, and uh in a spot
where generally crowd noises in an issue in the NFL,
necessarily speaking, Yeah, Pittsburgh. It is like the home field
advantage is different there in Pittsburgh. It is a real
deal and it's gonna be a tough environment.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
Real deals.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
That's what all we handle here at Carry the G Radio.
It's what we're up against. It's what we do.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
Billy, it's always great. Two hours has flown by.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
Can't wait to talk to you next Tuesday after a
big Packer's victory in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
Yeah, this is fun talking about the team that is
leading the NFC. So let's do it again next week.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
We gotta get that super duper number one megazine.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Super duper number one legaceed.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
That's Billy, I'm Aaron. Thank you so much for listening
to Carry the G Radio.