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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, So a couple of things going on that
I've got to talk about in this the next twenty
minutes here or so, one of which is this woman
that was attacked up in hill here and I just
ready to chew nails, as they used to say, ready
to chew nails, because all of the stuff that you
see in people go, that's just internet room, or that's
this folk lord, that's it. Every time a story like
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hers comes to be, it makes me think, yeah, those
internet rumors have to be based on something. And this
was very blatant, and God bless her for coming forth,
was her story, and for her husband for being what
a husband is supposed to be. Excellent people. I'll tell
you that story soon. Right now, I've got joining me
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right now on the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone lines,
the president of the Fraternal Order of Police, Lodge number nine,
the one, the only, the Mighty, Brian Steele.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
How you doing great, Chuck break Brown the show as always, well.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Thank you, sir. I initially had asked you to come
on with me this week because we were going to
talk about all the you know, well, as police hit
the streets, they had a campaign that it went very well.
The results were impressive. Didn't get nearly enough press. But
what is getting enough press and too much press, and
it's making me sick today, is you know, this is
the beginning of the Adam Koy trial, and we got
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to talk about it. I mean, there's no way to
be responsible and not talk about it. It makes me sad.
I'll just tell you right off the top of my
right at the top of my head, I don't agree
with the charge, should there be charges. I'm sure was
a life lost. Absolutely, we shelled out ten million dollars
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as a city to the family, and mistakes were made
and tragedies exist, and it's a very sad thing. But
what is going on right now, as far as I'm concerned,
feels more like vengeance than justice. And I will be
glad when it's over with and hopefully in a good way.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, and I'm glad we're going to talk about this.
So listen. Someone once told me, they said, you know,
Brian Steale, Chuck Douglas, you guys are a back combo
because like it is. I say, we're a great combo
because we tell it like it is. And here's the
reality of the Koi trial. He was already denounced and
vilified by Mayor Ginter and elected officials. As you said,
ten million dollars settlement was paid out to the family.
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A work program by city council was named after mister Hill,
A law was named after mister Hill. A rec center
was named after mister Hill. He is a paragon of
virtue according to the media, and then officer KOI right,
we show his personnel file, we say he responded to
a non emergency run. They try to water this down.
Here's the reality. I do not know if bolster Koy
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was justified or not. Only a judge and Durry can
determine that when they hear the facts of the case.
They see the evidence and they look through the eyes
of Graham versus Connor. I've never once said the officer
was justified or not. I just said we need a
fair and am partial trial, and I don't know if
we're going to get that.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
The idea that mistakes are made seems so alien the
people because it's it's you know, it's far more important
to to to judge and stand in judgment. That's just
And I don't care who you are what you have.
For some reason, people love that superiority feeling, and I
think we just have too much of that going on
right now. If something went wrong, and as I said,
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I I believe it did, that's that is my opinion.
Let us also remember the era in which this happened,
when an officer couldn't be sure they could get from
their car into the station house without somebody taking a
shot at them, when they were the ultimate villains, when
they were under attack, their head on a swivel constantly.
Columbus was becoming some place that had not been before.
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And maybe just maybe pepper spray, nightclub, gun badge, everything else,
just maybe a human being got a little scared and
and something went awry. And you know, there's there's got
to be that grace in your heart to understand that too.
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As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't excuse anything, but
it certainly should change the mindset of what you believe
you want because of the event.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
That's absolutely right. The narrative that was basically painted was
white officer simply executed a black man. And I simply
do not buy that. I do not buy that that's
what happened. The courts are clear. The courts say an
officer can make a mistake. And let's say an officer
does make a mistake, and I'm not here to say
Diderie didn't, But if he did, is that murder? I
don't think so. It may be you can no longer
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be a police officer. It may be that there might
be some charge, It may be that maybe you should
perhaps be fired or resigned, but murder, We're talking murder,
complete overreach post twenty twenty rogue leftist prosecutions, that's all
this was.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Well. I think you and I are definitely on the
same page about that. The charge, if there must be
a charge, I murder is You're going for something here
that I just don't think is a justified charge. But again,
it washes out, and I'm sure you and I are
both going to be keeping eyes on it, and I'm
sure you and I will probably be talking about it
some more as as the next few weeks go along.
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Shame we have to go into the holidays with this
kind of thing, But again, life is what it is.
Let's move on to something good. Columbus police hitting the
streets with an initiative. What's it been like two and
a half weeks, three weeks ago?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Now, yep, yep. Outstanding, outstanding job by all the officers.
It wasn't just Columbus police off. I'll just remind your listeners,
it was also the Sheriff's office, some of our fine
officers from our subthern departments. Look, this band of misfits
they went up to Cleveland and they laid havoc on Cleveland.
We got word that they were coming down here, and
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this is what shows you can please show way out
of problems. The police were allowed to be that police
that day, and what they did was they arrested over
two hundred people. They spike stripped fifty cars, and they
towed multiple cars, and they hit everybody in the wallet.
You went to jail or you're getting a hefty fine.
Come to our city. Show off your car, pop that hood,
let's check the engine. That's great. Doing donuts, cranking off
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gunshot rounds to one hundred hundred plus miles an hour
in the streets is not tolerated. And we showed them
that day. And I'm so incredibly proud proud of the
officers for that.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Is there any chance that the success of the adventure
in Cleveland transforms itself into some more endorsed if you
will efforts in the city of Columbus. Might our city
hall actually go hey, you know it worked up there.
Maybe it's time we let the cops be the cops
in Columbus too.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I think we're seeing it. We talked about Saul tim
Chuck the pendulum swing, and we over correct it after
twenty twenty. We went so far one way, and what
did we see Our rest went down? Violent crimes or
murder spike. That's just how it is. Now. You're seeing
more and more elected officials, at least publicly supporting the police.
I know the city Attorney's at Cline. He came out
heavy with the prosecution with these offenders in this operation,
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and he had said, we're not pleading down your case.
That is the kind of stuff that drives that helps
drive crime down, and we just need to see more
of that.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Is there any update, by the way, I need to
ask this, any update from Milwaukee during the convention when
we sent officers out there to help with security and
they had that event as soon as they got there.
Is that still working its way through the details or
is anything coming of it.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
It's still pending at the end of the day. I
mean video spoke for itself. Even the mayor of that
town openly supported our officers that day, and we thank
them for that. By these things will take a little
bit of time.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And as we head into the cooler weather and things
begin to change and the crime patterns begin to change
and all that kind of stuff. Anything that those who
are supportive of our police departments can do to I
don't know, make your life a little bit easier, put
a smile on your face during patrol, anything like that,
because you know you've got a microphone here for that.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Well, one of the best things you can tell an
officer is you know, hey, be safe out there. Thank
you for your service, because it matters. And listen, we're
not puppies. We don't need scratch it on a belly
or pats on a back. But when this is why
we do this. We do this for a reason. Officers
go to work every day knowing they might get murdered
and not come home. And when people say, you know, hey,
thank you for your service. I always say, you're welcome,
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You're worth it, and that's the best thing intel an officer.
Some guys forget too, though. The FLP we're a nonprofit charity,
so if anybody wants to help the FOP nine Foundation,
you can get on our website FOP nine dot org.
Cut a check. That money goes to officers in sick
and distress and it goes into the community we serve.
So we'll give out we'll give out meals for Christmas,
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We'll do a code drive, all these things. We could
certainly use the community support so we could help give
back to those we serve.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Why don't I know about this? You're supposed to tell
me about stuff like this so I can help you
with it.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, well you know what that's on me. I'll own that.
I'll give you all the information offline, and yeah, let's
do some good work together.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
This is why I won't scratch your belly.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Not many could scratch my belly, but I let you.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Brian Steele as president of FOP Lodge number nine, he's
doing a fine job. He is as always, very visible,
very vocal, very supportive of the troops and uh and
never flinches when asked a question. You are so very appreciated.
I don't think you.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Know well, I appreciate it's a voice of CenTra high
law enforcement. Thank you so much. Grabbing me on the
show and give me a platform to speak to good
work work their officers are doing every day.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Anytime. You'd be safe out there, buddy. We will talk
again very very soon. That he's he's just you know,
one of the cool things about Brian is I hit
him with whatever, even if it's not favorable stuff. You
think he wants to talk about, you know, an officer
on trial. No, but he will. He doesn't shy away
from things, and I like that about him very much.
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I got this story, but let me let me get
to this call, because this guy's been holding on here
for a while and I want to get to him.
But I got to tell you about the Hilliard thing too.
Eight six is the number. Tommy, you're on sixten level
the u TV and turned down your radio. I think
he wants to talk about though. Okay, we'll put Tommy
back on hold. Maybe it'll turn down the radio. You know, people, man,
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it's like from the seven he's turned down you're radio.
So the woman is shopping at the home store in Hilliard.
Her story is on the WSYX website if you want
to read about it, but essentially, here's the deal. She
went out, She her husband and the grandchild, and they
wanted to look for some spooky stuff, some halloween stuff
right for the home at the home store, and there's
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this guy, Mohammed Kamorrow, which, by the way, there's a
soccer player by the same name. It's not the same guy.
Mohammed Camaro. Yes, Mohammed Camaro sounds like a detective from
an eighties TV series.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Doesn't He doesn't drive a Camaro or is he?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Okay, I don't know that this guy drives at all.
Just looking at his picture, he looks like he probably
wears those polyester fake silk shirts and sandals all winter long.
So a yeah, it's up. And I again, I just
I want to say to this woman, good for you,
Gloria Cannon, good for you, And to your husband, Tim,
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good for you for being a man, rushing in that
bathroom and doing what a man, what a husband should do.
Here's her story from the Wsyxite, shopping at the Art
home store on Mill Run with her husband's son grandchild
near their Hilliard home. The day was as innocent as
you would think. Gloria's husband, Tim said, none of the
three of us saw a threat until we heard the screen.
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Gloria said, they took their grandson to the store on
September twentieth to look for spooky things. While they were there,
she went to the restroom. The minute I walked in
the stall, I heard the door open, she said. When
I walked out of the stall and around, I saw
him standing there, and I knew it wasn't good. Hill
your police had. Twenty six year old Mohammed Kamara of
Columbus allegedly could be seen on surveillance video following and
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Gloria around the store and into the restroom. Court records
alleged that he waited. Allege you watched him alleged that
he waited for her near the sinks, then attacked her,
grabbing her throat, slamming her against the wall, covering her mouth,
and attempting to strangle her. What went through my mind
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almost immediately was I need to get myself out of here,
Gloria said. And when that wasn't going to happen, I
needed Tim to hear me call his name. I knew
that was my only goal. I had to survive long
enough to get Tim's attention. Eventually, Gloria was able to
get Tim's attention. I heard a scream that was muffled,
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and then I heard Tim help me. Tim said, I
was fully expecting to walk through the door and see
her laying on the floor with a sprained ankle, a
slip and fall thing. Instead, Tim saw his wife struggling
to get away from Kamara. Hiliar police said he was
able to pull Kamara from his wife and hold him
until they arrived. Any husband that gives a darn about
their wife goes into protector mode, and that's where I was,
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Tim said. Gloria said the moment replaced constantly in her mind. Tim.
I congratulate you, sir, on your restraint. I don't know
that I would have been controlled enough to leave anything
for the police to come and pick up. But you
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see these stories floating around about women going to the
car and finding something on their car handle or something
on their windshield. Just look at a Fox News report here,
twelve hundred and forty eight missing children in twenty twenty
three in the United States of America, sex trafficking up,
borders open. We're supposed to act like everything's fine. You
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can't say that because that's raisedist, your xenophobic Shut the
hell up. People. Look if one population increases and another
population starts disappearing. It's not that hard to put two
and two together. We are so worried about being offensive
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to someone, but we don't make any sense sometimes, so
Mohammed Kamara. Whatever the maximum in jail is, I hope
you get it, and then some and anybody else who
grabs Grandma whilst she's taking. By the way, Grandma's inappropriate term. Gloria,
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you're a lovely lady. Just so you know, Tim, Please
don't beat me up if you ever meet me at
the hill your homestore. Watch out for each other. People
watch out for each other because other people are watching
you and there's not always somebody else to come to
the rescue. Time for me to fly. We'll do this
again tomorrow night. Bob's fragg State Treasure of Ohio joining
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me with some opinions on six ' ten WTV