February 7, 2026 • 11 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On Sports.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is Fox Sports Radio. We are live on Radio Row.
First of all, let me say this, how awesome is
Radio Row.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
It's so fun? Yeah, it's so fun. I actually love this.
I kind of describe it as like a high school reunion,
except without that weirdness that's attached to high school reunion.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I know what you mean. Yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And you know when you talk about what you guys
are doing, you're changing the game. And I want you
to explain to every By the way Lindsey introduced yourself,
I'm so sorry I just jumped into conversation.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, Lindsay Rhodes from Summer Sports. You might know me
from back in the day. I used to work at
NFL Network, working at Sumer Sports now doing a podcast
for them and helping them build out these cool products
that we're talking about here.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Okay, well, let's go ahead and talk about the show
that Big E is hosting, because Big E, first of all,
he is a larger than life personality, as we all
know from Boutio's New Day WWE and now the host
with you guys are.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
You are you a wrestling fan? He just named like
his entire.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, like Big E, and then I like his move
to E train. Yeah, no, I'm down with Big Ee.
So when I had the opportunity to have Big E
come and hang out with me on the sports shows,
like yeah, most certainly sign.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Me up New Day, New Day, nud Day. And his
personality is infectious.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I know, it's such a big personality. It's so funny.
He's like he's So. We did a draft show together
that we taped a couple of weeks ago, and I
was just he's such a good dude. And he's a
huge football fan, primarily college, which is actually perfect for
the draft show that we did together because we're talking
(01:38):
about how to evaluate players that are going from college
to the draft. And we're at an interesting period of
time right now. I think in that like, people are
using data more and more, and there are more data
points that are being developed by companies like Summer Sports
and others that are helping us actually identify the things
that matter. So I think that we're going to start
(01:59):
seeing in years ahead more draft hits and Pewer draft
misses because do we just it's all about information gathering,
and we're gathering way more information than we have in
the past, right but also having conversations with the scouts
that are on our staff, and so having like a
data like new school old school kind of conversation where
both points of view are put into the same conversation.
(02:22):
I think is a really interesting way to talk about evaluation.
And Biggie was such a fun way to have a
different perspective. Yeah, because I think he kind of represented
I mean, he is in no way everyman, as you know, physically,
I understand that, but as a as a football fan,
he kind of represented the everyman like, Okay, I'm a
college football fan, and here's the questions that I haven't
(02:44):
would want to know.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I love that because I think that when I listened
to sports, and one of the reasons I even started
this sports so I didn't believe there was enough fans
that were involved. I would turn on the radio, I
would hear stats. It would bore me. Yeah, I would
hear people breaking down. I'm like, wait, wait, wait, no, no, no, no,
I don't understand that scheme. I don't get that defense.
(03:05):
I don't understand that. Oh well, if you look, and
it's it's real simple to see. He hits the scene,
he does this, I'm like, wait, I don't see.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
The scene simple, I agree with It's.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Not that simple to me.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
So my point of even saying that is that's kind
of why I did this sports show was I'm like,
I'm gonna come at it from me hanging out in
the barbershop talking sports, having a good time, getting a
lot of great guests like you to come and just
kind of tell us your experience, how you got involved
in the business.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And just share. Yeah, and I think it's fun.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
And so when you said the way that you guys
have big Eie to be a part of it, it
made me think to myself, that's the right way, Yeah,
get someone from the fans perspective, because more often than not,
you tune in and you listen or you watch and
you're like, yeah, not really sure what you guys are
talking about?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Really so well, And I think also, like, I think
we're a point in time right now, especially where there
are more silos developing in terms of the ways people
have conversations, right and they talk to people who kind
of think like them. And this is in every walk
of life, but in football, for sure, you have a
(04:17):
faction of people that kind of understand data analytics and
they talk to each other on Twitter, right, and then
there's the like nerds are ruining football crowd and they
talk to each other that are ruining football crowd.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But that's why I love the show and also Sumer Sports,
because the whole company is built on merging the voices
from people who have different types of football experience and
putting them in conversation with one another. And I think
that's something that doesn't happen frequently enough because if you
are a data person and now you're talking to somebody
who has been an on the ground scout football evaluator
(04:53):
for you know, twenty five years or whatever, they clearly
are looking at it differently. Well, now you have to
alter the way you're talking about that data to make
sure that they understand the data, and then they tell
you what they think matters about it, and then it
just informs the conversation in a different way so that
people leave the conversation actually understanding it.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Here's what I want to talk to you about, and
I think it's really cool that you're on the show today.
Women in Sports. We're celebrating that, And what was it
like for you working at the network where you.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Are right now?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
And it is a male dominated business, but here you
are carving your way. Talk about that, and I want,
hopefully this message to get young girls, young women that
are like I want to get in the industry.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I want to work in sports.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
My first daughter, Hannah, she played Division one soccer at
San Jose State.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Now she works for the Mariners.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
My younger daughter played Division one soccer at Alabama, went
to Oregon, and now she's trying to find her way
in life. So with that being said, they both want
careers in sports. And it's not always easy for young
women to break into sports. You've done that now, I
would love for you to talk about that.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
It's it's definitely getting easier. I'll say that, okay, And
that's because there are in a lot of ways more
women that have already broken through and created a presence.
And then it's not just that the women are hiring
more people, but people are now that twenty years ago
might not have been comfortable having a woman involved in
these conversations have whether they've wanted to or not, have
(06:28):
been forced to get comfortable with that. And now we're
at a point where everyone works with women in sports. Okay,
you know what I mean? Like you just I can't
remember the last room I was in that didn't have
multiple women in it and not just me, Whereas in
the beginning of my career it was much more likely
that I was going to be the woman that was there.
And that has changed and I think for the better.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And I think also, like what you said about telling
stories about sports from different perspectives is so important, and
I would tell women that are getting in to not
pretend like you are not exactly who you are, and
that you're coming at sports from the perspective that you're
coming at it from. There is value to that. And
people who pretend like they know more than they do
(07:13):
and listen to somebody say oh yeah cover three and
blah blah blah. I think it's a valid question to say,
what is cover three? Explain that for me and my audience, right, like,
break that down further, because I think that that's the
only way that, like, I think a lot of people
if you have a question, there are a lot of
people listening on a radio show like this to share
(07:33):
your questions.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
That have that same question. Yeah, because you're sitting there
and you're.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Like, wait, wait, wait, wait, you gotta can you explain
that in Layman's terms, don't talk to me like I'm
in the locker room right now, because you see that
happen where you're like, oh, you know what, I think
that guy could be good on TV. And then they
get on TV and they still are talking like they're
in the locker room. Yeah, are there explaining things in
certain ways. So it's always special when you see an athlete, though,
(07:58):
to be someone on TV or on radio. We'll use
like a Randy Moss who knows how to connect with people,
and you go, Okay, he gets it. He's not talking
like he's talking to the guys in the locker room.
He's connecting with his friends and that's a beautiful thing.
And I like what you're saying as far as young
women that want to do this, be yourself.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, ask the questions.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
That interest you, and you and your own personality and
who you are is going to help you excel. And yes,
some sports knowledge is fantastic, but you know what, people
can connect with you, you're good to go. And I
think that's the thing with you. People have connected with you.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Well.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I think it's My career has been so interesting to
look back on in terms of the evolution right the
way that it was, that the beginning is so different.
Who I was at the beginning was so different, and
I think it needed to go in the exactly the
way that it was when I first started. I clearly
did not play football, and so what I bring to
(08:57):
the table is simply as a pure journalist. And I
came up at a time where it was like big
Jay journalism, You are not the story. Just get the
questions to the answers to inform the public about that.
And I was a little bit more rigid in that
sense then, like I never gave an opinion. I would
go on radio shows and they'd say I was covering
US and UCLA at the time, and they'd be like,
what do you think? And I'd be like, well, what
(09:19):
they say or what I have heard from people, and
I would always flip it into other people's opinions, and
here's the information that I can tell you. You shouldn't care
about my opinion. It was my underlying thought, but I
think that there was validity to that. I did not
have any experience that should inform an opinion that made
that opinion worthy of going on a radio show and
telling people like my opinion had no more weight than theirs. Yeah,
(09:42):
but over the years, after doing that for a very
long time, I've not talked to enough people that have
told me things, and now I'm developing my own thoughts
about Oh. Now, I've sat in rooms with general managers,
and I've sat in rooms with coaches, and I've sat
in rooms with Hall of famers and We've had these conversations.
And now I have formed opinions over the years, and
(10:02):
now I'm in a position where I'm going on shows
as an analyst with football opinions and thoughts that I
have learned over a period of time. And it's such
an interesting thing to me to look back at the
girl that I was, how scared I was to give
an opinion, and now think that my job is literally
to talk all day long about my opinions. But I
think that it's just an example of ways that your
(10:22):
career can evolve. Like if you watch somebody who is
talking all the time and you think, well, I don't
know that much about it, that's fine. Lean into the
things that you do know or your natural curiosity, Go
ask questions, Go be the person that's willing to in
an authentic way say, hey, I don't understand that. Can
you explain it to me and know that there are
other people out there, and then over time if that
(10:45):
changes into something else, then great, lean into that.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I appreciate you stopping by today. Thank you having Lindsay
Rhodes one more time. Tell everyone what you're doing, what's
going on, and how they can follow you on social media.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
So the number one thing that I want to tell
you to do is to go to Szoomer sports dot com.
It is s u m e Er yes like Summer
but with one M sumer sportsmor Sports, and you can
check out all of the different data information that we
have there. Everything is free, not gated. You can look
at We have something called suomer Live, which will be
(11:19):
a live dashboard during the game right on Sunday. And
then most importantly, we have a draft show coming out
the Thursday after the Super Bowl. We will have an
episode airing every Thursday for ten weeks where we tackle
a different position and have some of these conversations with
the former general managers and the data and all of
that kind of stuff. If you are a fan of
the draft, if you've ever done a mock draft, if
(11:39):
you have an opinion about who you want your favorite
team to take in the third round. I promise you
you're gonna like this show. Check it out there.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
She is Lindsey Rose.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
We appreciate you for stopping by today on Radio Row.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Thank you, Frev.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Thank you so much for joining us. K on Sports.
It is Fox Sports Radio.
On Sports.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is Fox Sports Radio. We are live on Radio Row.
First of all, let me say this, how awesome is
Radio Row.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
It's so fun? Yeah, it's so fun. I actually love this.
I kind of describe it as like a high school reunion,
except without that weirdness that's attached to high school reunion.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I know what you mean. Yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And you know when you talk about what you guys
are doing, you're changing the game. And I want you
to explain to every By the way Lindsey introduced yourself,
I'm so sorry I just jumped into conversation.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, Lindsay Rhodes from Summer Sports. You might know me
from back in the day. I used to work at
NFL Network, working at Sumer Sports now doing a podcast
for them and helping them build out these cool products
that we're talking about here.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Okay, well, let's go ahead and talk about the show
that Big E is hosting, because Big E, first of all,
he is a larger than life personality, as we all
know from Boutio's New Day WWE and now the host
with you guys are.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
You are you a wrestling fan? He just named like
his entire.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, like Big E, and then I like his move
to E train. Yeah, no, I'm down with Big Ee.
So when I had the opportunity to have Big E
come and hang out with me on the sports shows,
like yeah, most certainly sign.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Me up New Day, New Day, nud Day. And his
personality is infectious.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I know, it's such a big personality. It's so funny.
He's like he's So. We did a draft show together
that we taped a couple of weeks ago, and I
was just he's such a good dude. And he's a
huge football fan, primarily college, which is actually perfect for
the draft show that we did together because we're talking
(01:38):
about how to evaluate players that are going from college
to the draft. And we're at an interesting period of
time right now. I think in that like, people are
using data more and more, and there are more data
points that are being developed by companies like Summer Sports
and others that are helping us actually identify the things
that matter. So I think that we're going to start
(01:59):
seeing in years ahead more draft hits and Pewer draft
misses because do we just it's all about information gathering,
and we're gathering way more information than we have in
the past, right but also having conversations with the scouts
that are on our staff, and so having like a
data like new school old school kind of conversation where
both points of view are put into the same conversation.
(02:22):
I think is a really interesting way to talk about evaluation.
And Biggie was such a fun way to have a
different perspective. Yeah, because I think he kind of represented
I mean, he is in no way everyman, as you know, physically,
I understand that, but as a as a football fan,
he kind of represented the everyman like, Okay, I'm a
college football fan, and here's the questions that I haven't
(02:44):
would want to know.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I love that because I think that when I listened
to sports, and one of the reasons I even started
this sports so I didn't believe there was enough fans
that were involved. I would turn on the radio, I
would hear stats. It would bore me. Yeah, I would
hear people breaking down. I'm like, wait, wait, wait, no, no, no, no,
I don't understand that scheme. I don't get that defense.
(03:05):
I don't understand that. Oh well, if you look, and
it's it's real simple to see. He hits the scene,
he does this, I'm like, wait, I don't see.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
The scene simple, I agree with It's.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Not that simple to me.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
So my point of even saying that is that's kind
of why I did this sports show was I'm like,
I'm gonna come at it from me hanging out in
the barbershop talking sports, having a good time, getting a
lot of great guests like you to come and just
kind of tell us your experience, how you got involved
in the business.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And just share. Yeah, and I think it's fun.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
And so when you said the way that you guys
have big Eie to be a part of it, it
made me think to myself, that's the right way, Yeah,
get someone from the fans perspective, because more often than not,
you tune in and you listen or you watch and
you're like, yeah, not really sure what you guys are
talking about?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Really so well, And I think also, like, I think
we're a point in time right now, especially where there
are more silos developing in terms of the ways people
have conversations, right and they talk to people who kind
of think like them. And this is in every walk
of life, but in football, for sure, you have a
(04:17):
faction of people that kind of understand data analytics and
they talk to each other on Twitter, right, and then
there's the like nerds are ruining football crowd and they
talk to each other that are ruining football crowd.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But that's why I love the show and also Sumer Sports,
because the whole company is built on merging the voices
from people who have different types of football experience and
putting them in conversation with one another. And I think
that's something that doesn't happen frequently enough because if you
are a data person and now you're talking to somebody
who has been an on the ground scout football evaluator
(04:53):
for you know, twenty five years or whatever, they clearly
are looking at it differently. Well, now you have to
alter the way you're talking about that data to make
sure that they understand the data, and then they tell
you what they think matters about it, and then it
just informs the conversation in a different way so that
people leave the conversation actually understanding it.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Here's what I want to talk to you about, and
I think it's really cool that you're on the show today.
Women in Sports. We're celebrating that, And what was it
like for you working at the network where you.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Are right now?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
And it is a male dominated business, but here you
are carving your way. Talk about that, and I want,
hopefully this message to get young girls, young women that
are like I want to get in the industry.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I want to work in sports.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
My first daughter, Hannah, she played Division one soccer at
San Jose State.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Now she works for the Mariners.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
My younger daughter played Division one soccer at Alabama, went
to Oregon, and now she's trying to find her way
in life. So with that being said, they both want
careers in sports. And it's not always easy for young
women to break into sports. You've done that now, I
would love for you to talk about that.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
It's it's definitely getting easier. I'll say that, okay, And
that's because there are in a lot of ways more
women that have already broken through and created a presence.
And then it's not just that the women are hiring
more people, but people are now that twenty years ago
might not have been comfortable having a woman involved in
these conversations have whether they've wanted to or not, have
(06:28):
been forced to get comfortable with that. And now we're
at a point where everyone works with women in sports. Okay,
you know what I mean? Like you just I can't
remember the last room I was in that didn't have
multiple women in it and not just me, Whereas in
the beginning of my career it was much more likely
that I was going to be the woman that was there.
And that has changed and I think for the better.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And I think also, like what you said about telling
stories about sports from different perspectives is so important, and
I would tell women that are getting in to not
pretend like you are not exactly who you are, and
that you're coming at sports from the perspective that you're
coming at it from. There is value to that. And
people who pretend like they know more than they do
(07:13):
and listen to somebody say oh yeah cover three and
blah blah blah. I think it's a valid question to say,
what is cover three? Explain that for me and my audience, right, like,
break that down further, because I think that that's the
only way that, like, I think a lot of people
if you have a question, there are a lot of
people listening on a radio show like this to share
(07:33):
your questions.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
That have that same question. Yeah, because you're sitting there
and you're.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Like, wait, wait, wait, wait, you gotta can you explain
that in Layman's terms, don't talk to me like I'm
in the locker room right now, because you see that
happen where you're like, oh, you know what, I think
that guy could be good on TV. And then they
get on TV and they still are talking like they're
in the locker room. Yeah, are there explaining things in
certain ways. So it's always special when you see an athlete, though,
(07:58):
to be someone on TV or on radio. We'll use
like a Randy Moss who knows how to connect with people,
and you go, Okay, he gets it. He's not talking
like he's talking to the guys in the locker room.
He's connecting with his friends and that's a beautiful thing.
And I like what you're saying as far as young
women that want to do this, be yourself.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, ask the questions.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
That interest you, and you and your own personality and
who you are is going to help you excel. And yes,
some sports knowledge is fantastic, but you know what, people
can connect with you, you're good to go. And I
think that's the thing with you. People have connected with you.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Well.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I think it's My career has been so interesting to
look back on in terms of the evolution right the
way that it was, that the beginning is so different.
Who I was at the beginning was so different, and
I think it needed to go in the exactly the
way that it was when I first started. I clearly
did not play football, and so what I bring to
(08:57):
the table is simply as a pure journalist. And I
came up at a time where it was like big
Jay journalism, You are not the story. Just get the
questions to the answers to inform the public about that.
And I was a little bit more rigid in that
sense then, like I never gave an opinion. I would
go on radio shows and they'd say I was covering
US and UCLA at the time, and they'd be like,
what do you think? And I'd be like, well, what
(09:19):
they say or what I have heard from people, and
I would always flip it into other people's opinions, and
here's the information that I can tell you. You shouldn't care
about my opinion. It was my underlying thought, but I
think that there was validity to that. I did not
have any experience that should inform an opinion that made
that opinion worthy of going on a radio show and
telling people like my opinion had no more weight than theirs. Yeah,
(09:42):
but over the years, after doing that for a very
long time, I've not talked to enough people that have
told me things, and now I'm developing my own thoughts
about Oh. Now, I've sat in rooms with general managers,
and I've sat in rooms with coaches, and I've sat
in rooms with Hall of famers and We've had these conversations.
And now I have formed opinions over the years, and
(10:02):
now I'm in a position where I'm going on shows
as an analyst with football opinions and thoughts that I
have learned over a period of time. And it's such
an interesting thing to me to look back at the
girl that I was, how scared I was to give
an opinion, and now think that my job is literally
to talk all day long about my opinions. But I
think that it's just an example of ways that your
(10:22):
career can evolve. Like if you watch somebody who is
talking all the time and you think, well, I don't
know that much about it, that's fine. Lean into the
things that you do know or your natural curiosity, Go
ask questions, Go be the person that's willing to in
an authentic way say, hey, I don't understand that. Can
you explain it to me and know that there are
other people out there, and then over time if that
(10:45):
changes into something else, then great, lean into that.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I appreciate you stopping by today. Thank you having Lindsay
Rhodes one more time. Tell everyone what you're doing, what's
going on, and how they can follow you on social media.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
So the number one thing that I want to tell
you to do is to go to Szoomer sports dot com.
It is s u m e Er yes like Summer
but with one M sumer sportsmor Sports, and you can
check out all of the different data information that we
have there. Everything is free, not gated. You can look
at We have something called suomer Live, which will be
(11:19):
a live dashboard during the game right on Sunday. And
then most importantly, we have a draft show coming out
the Thursday after the Super Bowl. We will have an
episode airing every Thursday for ten weeks where we tackle
a different position and have some of these conversations with
the former general managers and the data and all of
that kind of stuff. If you are a fan of
the draft, if you've ever done a mock draft, if
(11:39):
you have an opinion about who you want your favorite
team to take in the third round. I promise you
you're gonna like this show. Check it out there.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
She is Lindsey Rose.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
We appreciate you for stopping by today on Radio Row.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Thank you, Frev.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Thank you so much for joining us. K on Sports.
It is Fox Sports Radio.
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