March 6, 2026 • 23 mins
Our Personal Defense segment addressed the challenges posed by terrorists with J.D. Johnson of the Talon Training Group.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
All right, here we go. It's the third and final hour,
at least for today of the morning show with Preston
Scott's show five five five five, never to come this
way again. It will be the only show five hundred
and fifty five. But then you could say that about
every show that I do. It's the only one that
I'm going to do. And I am joined by co
(00:29):
founder of the Talent Training Group, co host of Talent Outdoors.
He is Jad Johnson. Hello, sir, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm great? How about you?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
So I'm good. How long after the attacks began over
the weekend did it start to register to you that
we could see some repercussions domestically here in America immediately? Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
And that's that's been a substantial concern of mine since,
I mean even before this, when when the border was
so porous that millions of people were coming across, and
I had friends that were deployed down there and working
down there and all this stuff, and that they're like, yeah,
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we're we're seeing people that are uh not Central American,
South American coming across the border. We're seeing people from
all over the world. And that's a that is a
scary scary proposition when you when you open the gates
and let the wolves in uh in the field with
you cows, that's scary.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
It's not just the people that you know that, it's
the god aways.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Absolutely, that's That's what I'm talking about. The the ones
that got away. We we know, we know that they
stopped and caught and confronted known terrorists at the border
at the southern or what didn't they catch what if
they I mean, a lot of those folks that they
apprehended at the border were simply just walking across and
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they go make contact with them. It wasn't a game
of hide and seek or run them down or chase
them down or whatever it was they sent, you know,
essentially walked up to the border patrol people and in
a group or whatever. But imagine the ones that were
trying to stealthily enter the country. Those are your bad ones,
the ones that got away.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So you've you've introduced untold numbers of bad people into
this country, probably with with bad intentions. Not just bad people,
but bad people with bad intentions.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Let's set aside the gun running that the Obama administration
did that ended up in the hands of the cartels.
Let's set that aside, and except that people can come
across the border with all manner of ordinance.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Absolutely, there's not controlled in other countries like it is here.
Not to mention the cartel being heavily armed in the
to essentially attack us. There's been some border skirmishes with
the cartel where they're shooting big ordnance across the river.
You know, we're shooting back at them, so stuff that
we don't have available, you know. So that's that's been
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going on.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And we know that the spickett is Iran. Iran has
been the worldwide sponsor and funder of this type of thing,
and so the likelihood of their being as as you know,
Homeland Security Director Christy no mentioned in testimony yesterday, the
likelihood of sleeper cells being in this country is high.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Absolutely it is. Is it a guarantee, I don't think
anything is guaranteed, but likely, it is highly likely. Ye okay,
that's going on right now.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
We also had, if I recall JD, we had Iran
all but confirmed that there were hit squads in the
country wanting to kill Trump during the campaign. That's great,
So that all but verifies that we have people in
this country.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Absolutely it does. And that's terrifying. You know, it's a
terrifying prospect that that could be going on or is
going on.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
When we come back, I want to talk about what
does that mean to just the folks listening to the
radio right now, because I shared with you one article.
It's one of many articles that are out there right
now saying and of course it's coming from more Second
Amendment oriented conservative outlets saying, oh, by the way, you
(04:37):
better start paying attention to people that either do carry
or don't carry, but maybe should. And we're going to
I want to talk about that when we come back.
Jadie Johnson with me from the Talent Training group, remember
Talentrange dot com Personal Defense segment. I had a feeling
we were gonna take this in a different direction, and
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it is. It is by intent. We live in a
fallen world, you know, not just because of what happened
over the weekend, JD, but just you know, people just
do crazy things, and we're watching a lot of really
difficult things to watch happen, and you just don't know
when something will happen around you and where. So speak
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to the people out there right now about what we
ought to be thinking about now that there's this reality
of the potential of targeted attacks on anybody.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I would just say, you're going to have to be
extremely prepared to deal with something out of the ordinary
or potentially something out of the ordinary. And you've got
two different You've got two different concerns. You've got an organize.
You may potentially have an organized group of people following
orders that go out to do something bad. You also
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may have people that look at what's going on in
Iran as a religious war, so in that or individuals
lone wolf, whatever you want to call it, these guys
that are folks that are highly upset because Christian Jewish
nations have attacked a Muslim nation. We've seen that every
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time there's been conflict in the Middle East, we've seen
these lone wolf attacks. There was a husband and wife
for a couple out in California back years ago that
went and did a mass shooting. So that's the potential
for all of that stuff is much higher right now
because of the conflict. And I think that's what you
had in honestly, the thing in Austin where the guy
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goes in the nightclub, bar or whatever whatever it was,
I'm pretty sure he was just a lone wolf guy
that was a zealot that was went over the top
and said, listen, I'm gonna go kill some people that
believe differently than me.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
You know. The Iotola, Marco Rubio warned in twenty fifteen
on the floor of the Senate. It's something we're going
to play tomorrow. He warned that, and he stated, I
want this recorded for history, that this deal that Barack
Obama initiated to begin the nuclear proliferation in Iran, that
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this is going to lead to this. And he was
on the money across the board, but he pointed this out.
He said, the Iotola, the Supreme Leader, is an apocalyptic leader.
He believes it is his God ordained mission from Allah
to eliminate Israel from the face of the earth, and
anyone who supports Israel and anyone who then beyond that
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is an infidel. That was what he believed. There are
those that think that way here in America.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Absolutely there are some of them are silly enough to
go out and show themselves and say things and put
themselves out there, and uh, just like your guy that's
telling them to son Piker, Yeah, here go Bill, This
is how you build drone bombs. You know. Uh, that's
that's insane that they're letting that guy do that. I
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don't know what law they would use to stop him
from doing that, but somebody needs to stop him from
doing that.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna ask you to start
to almost like go back to where we started these
segments in just a few minutes. But to me, the
way to avoid paranoia is through preparation.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Preparation and vigilance, you know, paying attention to things that
are out of the ordinary.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Because that's what we've talked about, is you don't have
to go around worried and fearful if you're simply prepared.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Absolutely, we are.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Talking about I have a hard time calling it a
new reality, but maybe a new awareness of a reality
that we've had for quite a while. And maybe now
there's the incentive for bad guys to act because of
what's happened in Iran. And we know about Islamic extremists.
They think differently and they are different and it's a
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serious threat. But now we've got two groups of people listening.
We got someone who you know, might be someone that
is a firearm owner and sits out there at the
range and goes out in the farm and the land
and plunks targets. They what do they need to be
doing differently?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, the marksmanship, target shooting, whatever you want to call it,
and shooting, combat shooting or defensive shooting, fighting with a gun,
or two very different things. They need to know that
if you're going to practice self defense, combat, whatever you
want to call it, you need to be practicing at
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the speed of life. And what I mean by that
is it there's there's you know, we operate when humans
are interact with each other, we always operate at a
certain a certain speed. It is it is essentially a
quarter of a second, so point zero point twenty five
seconds per thought or action. So in theory, you should
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be able to recognize a threat, reach for your firearm,
draw it from the holster, and engage that target in
about a second and a quarter. About one in a
quarter seconds is about the amount of time that it
takes all of those signals to process in your brain.
It's just like you driving down the road and the
car in front of you puts the brakes on. We've
all heard this. It's going to take you about three
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quarters of a second to recognize the fact that the
car in front of you is coming to a sudden
stop and that you need to do something about it.
Your brain has to tell your foot to go to
the break and stop the car. Right, So we we
operate under those speeds. Most people, when they go to
the rains, they don't operate under those. They take their time,
they aim, They make sure that their stance and their
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grip and their side alignment and all these things are
absolutely in perfect order before they break the shot. That
that's not how things work in real life. Okay, under stress,
That's just not how they work. So we have to
have some inducers or some way to induce that, and
the best way to do it is with a shot
time or we rent them, we sell them, we make
them available to customers.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Say something that audibly triggers you, gives.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
You, It gives you a queue, It deeps, it gives
you a queue, and then it registers. It hears the
shots that you. When you take a shot, it hears
that and it'll tell you, Okay, well you made that
shot in one point five seconds or whatever. So we
try to work on our speed and accuracy. That's some
of the tools that we use.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
As you were talking about the time it takes for
us to act, it occurs to me that every bad guy,
whether we're talking about the domestic or international terrorist or
just the random bad guy that has a plan to
commit a crime, they have in their mind the way
that they think it's going to go, and the moment
you introduce some new variable, now they're thinking and taking
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up that time we're just talking about.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Correct There's tons of words been written about it. It's
called the Ooda loop. If you've ever read any combat pilots.
One of the guys that he turned out to be
a kind of a bad guy, but it was. His
last name was Cunningham. He was an ACE pilot. He
talks a lot about it, if you ever find an
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interview with him or read some of the stuff he's
written about it. And with In a fighter pilot where
you've got a dogfight going on between two jet pilots,
they're constantly trying to do something to cause the other
guy to have to react as opposed to them. If
you're always reacting to your opponent, there are always three
quarters of a second ahead of you, So we have
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to do something to cause them to have to think
or cause them to have to change from like you said,
from they're predetermined in your head. You know, you've got
an idea or you've thought about how it's gonna happen,
and it never happens.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
There's a movie in your mind.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, there's a movie up there going on in your head,
and you think everything is going along. Well, yeah, the
minute the script takes a takes a hard rite and
you go, well, well, that's not how I plan this.
You better have a you better have a way to
change things and react to that.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
So for those of you that are firearm owners and
you know you believe in the Second Amendment and you've
thought about the whole idea of personal defense, I think
what we're suggesting to you is you need to now
step up your training from paper targets to something a
little bit more realistic and you can help them with that.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, we have a we have a really really nice
machine out there. That's uh that you know in the
military and law enforcement have been using these these type
of things before, their scenario based training machines that gives
you a prompt and gives you a scenario. It's playing
a movie up there. On the screen yep. And we've
been we've incorporated those into our classes for years and
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years and years, you know, to try to get people
to think.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
It raises your heart rate a little bit.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It will raise your heart rate some if especially if
you're new to all this.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
It can be extremely stressful. If you're new to this,
you know it's but it's even good for people that
aren't new to it to make you do something different
or see things differently. That's the big thing, is seeing things,
seeing things differently.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
We're talking about the possibilities of what people will face
in this country. Did we get a taste of it
in Austin, Texas just a few days ago. Perhaps more
than likely it was instigated by the actions of America
and Israel in Iran. And the fact of the matter
is we've got a lot of Muslim extremists in this country.
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They're taking over communities. We've got one that's been elected.
He's engaging in takiya. He's lying, but he's a Muslim extremist.
Don't don't think for one seconds so around mom, Donnie
is not. He just was kind to the LGBTQ community
because it was expeditious for him to do so. But
we've we've talked about people that have firearms. Now what
about the people JD that have come to the realization
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they need to do something. What is the starting point
Someone that's never considered a firearm and now they're thinking
about it.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Well, that's that is the starting point, the thinking about it?
Do I need? Do I need the ability to protect myself?
Do you know? So it's a it's a big decision
because it's a whole lot of Along with that ability
to defend yourself, an ability to defend your neighbor, your home,
whatever else, comes a whole lot of responsibility. And some
people tend to forget that.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
It's not for everybody.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It is not for everybody, and it's but if you're
gonna take on that, if you're going to take on
that responsibility, you also have the risk reponsibility to be proficient.
And that's where a lot of people leave it off.
They'll go buy a gun and treat it like a
rabbit's foot on your keychain. Well, i've got a gun,
I can take care of myself. It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
No, it does not.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
It's you need to be spending as much or more
money or time or effort on practicing and getting proficient.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
What's step one?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Step one, I would say is always this is get
some professional training, get an introduction, do it before.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
You pick out a firearm, before you take grandpa's old gun.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And absolutely, I guarantee you there's somebody listening on this
radio today that I have not sold a gun to
over the gun counter that I said, before you do this,
you need to go take a class from us or
somebody else is going to do it the right way,
and you need to take a class. You're not ready
to buy a gun yet.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
And that goes to almost anybody that's the first time
gun on.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Her absolutely, especially if they didn't grow up around them,
if it's a completely new subject, and even if you
did grow up around it and you grew up shooting
a twenty two at cans at the county dump, plinking, plinking.
I grew up shooting shooting rats and cans at the
county dump with my dad.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I grew up shooting birds with my grandfather, shooting you know,
quail hunting and dove hunting, deer hunting, all this. I
grew up doing all those things with shotguns and rifles.
Never got it, never shot handguns until I was in
the police academy, you know, the police academy in nineteen
eighty eight or eighty nine or whenever it was. So
I wasn't familiar with any of this stuff until I
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went and did that. And it's a whole different world.
Is There is so little that transfers from plinking hunting
to defending yourself.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
It's what we mentioned with the guys and thes that
have guns, have used guns, and they're sitting there shooting
paper targets. That is not the same thing.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
It is not the same thing. There are some skills
that are do transfer. Sure, I picked up being I
became a good pistol shooter in a lot shorter period
of time than most people do because I was familiar
with shooting, you know, with target shooting. So it does
some of the skills transfer, but the mindset is completely different.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
So step one to anybody that's not a gun owner
that is now thinking about being a gun owner is
get training. Get some train first before you pick out
a firearm. That's number one, absolutely JD. We've got them
now thinking Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna get some training.
What else what follows.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Well after the training, then you got to pick out equipment.
You know what you're going to carry, how you're going
to carry it, What ammunition am I going to use?
And we cover a lot of this stuff, and you
going to pick up a lot of this stuff if
you start down this path, there's different there's different different
ammunition for training than there is for effective self defense
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and all of those things. But this is a this
is a can't be taken lightly. It is a huge responsibility.
Yes it is, and the the effort that goes into
it is a lifetime of effort. You don't quit, you've
been you you still train. I still train, not as
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much as I should be the first one to admit,
you know.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
But you have a lifetime experience to fall back on.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I do.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Rest of us don't.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I can go out and practice just a little bit
and be right back up to the speed I need
to be, you know, the operation operationally speaking. So, but
it takes a long time to develop those skills.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
So what about the guy listening out there that, with
the best of intentions, is thinking, well, you know, I'm
away a lot. This is a serious thing that's happening
in our country. I want my wife as prepared as possible.
And man, they think the little lady needs a revolver,
so they just go to the gun counter.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Well that's not just that, it's it's I got I
gotta go buy my wife a gun. I gotta go
get my wife a gun. See this across the counter,
and I'm like, get your wife some training if she's
willing to do it. Hm, you know, And I see
the same faces sometime over the counter. Well, I bought
that one from a wife and she don't like it.
I kind of like it, so I'm gonna keep it.
And I mean, just be honest with me, dude, if
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you want to buy a new gun, I get it. Yeah,
like guns too, uh you know. So don't don't go
by your wife anything unless your wife's standing there to
let her try it and whatever. You know, she needs
to pick it out. She needs to make that commitment.
And we have a lot we have women's groups that
come out and train together and to get away from
sometimes is maybe just to get away from the house
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and go hang out with other other ladies and have
a good time, just kind of like I like to
go hunting with my buddies.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Factor fiction The best gun to start a lady out
with is a revolver.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Absolute fiction, absolute fiction.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
You're a little lady needs a revolver?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, yeah. And revolvers require more skill to operate properly
than some my autos do in my professional opinion, And
they're more punishing to the hand. They're less comfortable to shoot.
They weren't, I guarantee you yes. And but there are
also a lot of guys that sell their wife short.
I can't figure out. It's like Charlie says, I can't
figure out how to use the fancy can opener we
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got at the house, you know, m But my wife can.
My eighteen year old daughter can run a sewing machine.
I cannot. I don't know what you know. I can't
figure that out. But so she can certainly figure out,
you know, certainly figure out a handgun. And I did
went through this exercise less than a year ago with
my eighteen year old daughter that's away at college. And
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I gave her the option of what she wanted to carry.
It didn't matter to me. I just wanted her to
have a gun. Because she's eighteen, she can have a gun.
She can have it in her vehicle. She she goes
to a school where she can have it in her
car out of state. So I made a point of
talking to the police chief at the school where she
goes to. Is it gonna be okay for her to
And he gave me the parameters. Yep, as long as
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you keep it locked up and this, this and this
and this, and it's perfectly fine, he said. And I understand.
I'm happy, you know that she's you know, willing to
do that. So let let the person you're buying the
gun for, or getting the gun for, or helping to
choose a gun, let them pick it out and but
get some professional advice.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
And but that goes back to the training. And and
look the fact that it starts at the training, and
I you know, the reality is, and this isn't meant
to be an infomercial, but the fact is, the way
Talent does its training, you'll have the opportunity and that
person would have the opportunity to sample and try different
firms with a certified instructor there yep. And that's key.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And then you're gonna have people at the gun stores
that that have some idea of what the training entails
as well, that can can point you in the right direction. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
So, friends, we've we've done the best we can to
just get you thinking about where we are now. We're
in a different places.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
It's constantly evolving different world that we're living in right now.
And I hope I'm wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me
to see a coordinated effort across this country to introduce
conflict on our shores over here. It's the only way
that it's the only way that our enemies have to
attack us here. Yeah, that's it. There is no other
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They don't have the technology, the weaponry, though, whatever else
to attack us here, but they can. They can cause.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Havoc and use our freedoms against us.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Absolutely they can. Thanks for the time, yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
JD. Johnson, Talent Training Group, talent range dot com.
All right, here we go. It's the third and final hour,
at least for today of the morning show with Preston
Scott's show five five five five, never to come this
way again. It will be the only show five hundred
and fifty five. But then you could say that about
every show that I do. It's the only one that
I'm going to do. And I am joined by co
(00:29):
founder of the Talent Training Group, co host of Talent Outdoors.
He is Jad Johnson. Hello, sir, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm great? How about you?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
So I'm good. How long after the attacks began over
the weekend did it start to register to you that
we could see some repercussions domestically here in America immediately? Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
And that's that's been a substantial concern of mine since,
I mean even before this, when when the border was
so porous that millions of people were coming across, and
I had friends that were deployed down there and working
down there and all this stuff, and that they're like, yeah,
(01:20):
we're we're seeing people that are uh not Central American,
South American coming across the border. We're seeing people from
all over the world. And that's a that is a
scary scary proposition when you when you open the gates
and let the wolves in uh in the field with
you cows, that's scary.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
It's not just the people that you know that, it's
the god aways.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Absolutely, that's That's what I'm talking about. The the ones
that got away. We we know, we know that they
stopped and caught and confronted known terrorists at the border
at the southern or what didn't they catch what if
they I mean, a lot of those folks that they
apprehended at the border were simply just walking across and
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they go make contact with them. It wasn't a game
of hide and seek or run them down or chase
them down or whatever it was they sent, you know,
essentially walked up to the border patrol people and in
a group or whatever. But imagine the ones that were
trying to stealthily enter the country. Those are your bad ones,
the ones that got away.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So you've you've introduced untold numbers of bad people into
this country, probably with with bad intentions. Not just bad people,
but bad people with bad intentions.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Let's set aside the gun running that the Obama administration
did that ended up in the hands of the cartels.
Let's set that aside, and except that people can come
across the border with all manner of ordinance.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Absolutely, there's not controlled in other countries like it is here.
Not to mention the cartel being heavily armed in the
to essentially attack us. There's been some border skirmishes with
the cartel where they're shooting big ordnance across the river.
You know, we're shooting back at them, so stuff that
we don't have available, you know. So that's that's been
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going on.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And we know that the spickett is Iran. Iran has
been the worldwide sponsor and funder of this type of thing,
and so the likelihood of their being as as you know,
Homeland Security Director Christy no mentioned in testimony yesterday, the
likelihood of sleeper cells being in this country is high.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Absolutely it is. Is it a guarantee, I don't think
anything is guaranteed, but likely, it is highly likely. Ye okay,
that's going on right now.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
We also had, if I recall JD, we had Iran
all but confirmed that there were hit squads in the
country wanting to kill Trump during the campaign. That's great,
So that all but verifies that we have people in
this country.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Absolutely it does. And that's terrifying. You know, it's a
terrifying prospect that that could be going on or is
going on.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
When we come back, I want to talk about what
does that mean to just the folks listening to the
radio right now, because I shared with you one article.
It's one of many articles that are out there right
now saying and of course it's coming from more Second
Amendment oriented conservative outlets saying, oh, by the way, you
(04:37):
better start paying attention to people that either do carry
or don't carry, but maybe should. And we're going to
I want to talk about that when we come back.
Jadie Johnson with me from the Talent Training group, remember
Talentrange dot com Personal Defense segment. I had a feeling
we were gonna take this in a different direction, and
(05:01):
it is. It is by intent. We live in a
fallen world, you know, not just because of what happened
over the weekend, JD, but just you know, people just
do crazy things, and we're watching a lot of really
difficult things to watch happen, and you just don't know
when something will happen around you and where. So speak
(05:26):
to the people out there right now about what we
ought to be thinking about now that there's this reality
of the potential of targeted attacks on anybody.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I would just say, you're going to have to be
extremely prepared to deal with something out of the ordinary
or potentially something out of the ordinary. And you've got
two different You've got two different concerns. You've got an organize.
You may potentially have an organized group of people following
orders that go out to do something bad. You also
(06:01):
may have people that look at what's going on in
Iran as a religious war, so in that or individuals
lone wolf, whatever you want to call it, these guys
that are folks that are highly upset because Christian Jewish
nations have attacked a Muslim nation. We've seen that every
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time there's been conflict in the Middle East, we've seen
these lone wolf attacks. There was a husband and wife
for a couple out in California back years ago that
went and did a mass shooting. So that's the potential
for all of that stuff is much higher right now
because of the conflict. And I think that's what you
had in honestly, the thing in Austin where the guy
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goes in the nightclub, bar or whatever whatever it was,
I'm pretty sure he was just a lone wolf guy
that was a zealot that was went over the top
and said, listen, I'm gonna go kill some people that
believe differently than me.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
You know. The Iotola, Marco Rubio warned in twenty fifteen
on the floor of the Senate. It's something we're going
to play tomorrow. He warned that, and he stated, I
want this recorded for history, that this deal that Barack
Obama initiated to begin the nuclear proliferation in Iran, that
(07:28):
this is going to lead to this. And he was
on the money across the board, but he pointed this out.
He said, the Iotola, the Supreme Leader, is an apocalyptic leader.
He believes it is his God ordained mission from Allah
to eliminate Israel from the face of the earth, and
anyone who supports Israel and anyone who then beyond that
(07:48):
is an infidel. That was what he believed. There are
those that think that way here in America.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Absolutely there are some of them are silly enough to
go out and show themselves and say things and put
themselves out there, and uh, just like your guy that's
telling them to son Piker, Yeah, here go Bill, This
is how you build drone bombs. You know. Uh, that's
that's insane that they're letting that guy do that. I
(08:16):
don't know what law they would use to stop him
from doing that, but somebody needs to stop him from
doing that.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna ask you to start
to almost like go back to where we started these
segments in just a few minutes. But to me, the
way to avoid paranoia is through preparation.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Preparation and vigilance, you know, paying attention to things that
are out of the ordinary.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Because that's what we've talked about, is you don't have
to go around worried and fearful if you're simply prepared.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Absolutely, we are.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Talking about I have a hard time calling it a
new reality, but maybe a new awareness of a reality
that we've had for quite a while. And maybe now
there's the incentive for bad guys to act because of
what's happened in Iran. And we know about Islamic extremists.
They think differently and they are different and it's a
(09:17):
serious threat. But now we've got two groups of people listening.
We got someone who you know, might be someone that
is a firearm owner and sits out there at the
range and goes out in the farm and the land
and plunks targets. They what do they need to be
doing differently?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, the marksmanship, target shooting, whatever you want to call it,
and shooting, combat shooting or defensive shooting, fighting with a gun,
or two very different things. They need to know that
if you're going to practice self defense, combat, whatever you
want to call it, you need to be practicing at
(09:58):
the speed of life. And what I mean by that
is it there's there's you know, we operate when humans
are interact with each other, we always operate at a
certain a certain speed. It is it is essentially a
quarter of a second, so point zero point twenty five
seconds per thought or action. So in theory, you should
(10:22):
be able to recognize a threat, reach for your firearm,
draw it from the holster, and engage that target in
about a second and a quarter. About one in a
quarter seconds is about the amount of time that it
takes all of those signals to process in your brain.
It's just like you driving down the road and the
car in front of you puts the brakes on. We've
all heard this. It's going to take you about three
(10:43):
quarters of a second to recognize the fact that the
car in front of you is coming to a sudden
stop and that you need to do something about it.
Your brain has to tell your foot to go to
the break and stop the car. Right, So we we
operate under those speeds. Most people, when they go to
the rains, they don't operate under those. They take their time,
they aim, They make sure that their stance and their
(11:05):
grip and their side alignment and all these things are
absolutely in perfect order before they break the shot. That
that's not how things work in real life. Okay, under stress,
That's just not how they work. So we have to
have some inducers or some way to induce that, and
the best way to do it is with a shot
time or we rent them, we sell them, we make
them available to customers.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Say something that audibly triggers you, gives.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
You, It gives you a queue, It deeps, it gives
you a queue, and then it registers. It hears the
shots that you. When you take a shot, it hears
that and it'll tell you, Okay, well you made that
shot in one point five seconds or whatever. So we
try to work on our speed and accuracy. That's some
of the tools that we use.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
As you were talking about the time it takes for
us to act, it occurs to me that every bad guy,
whether we're talking about the domestic or international terrorist or
just the random bad guy that has a plan to
commit a crime, they have in their mind the way
that they think it's going to go, and the moment
you introduce some new variable, now they're thinking and taking
(12:14):
up that time we're just talking about.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Correct There's tons of words been written about it. It's
called the Ooda loop. If you've ever read any combat pilots.
One of the guys that he turned out to be
a kind of a bad guy, but it was. His
last name was Cunningham. He was an ACE pilot. He
talks a lot about it, if you ever find an
(12:37):
interview with him or read some of the stuff he's
written about it. And with In a fighter pilot where
you've got a dogfight going on between two jet pilots,
they're constantly trying to do something to cause the other
guy to have to react as opposed to them. If
you're always reacting to your opponent, there are always three
quarters of a second ahead of you, So we have
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to do something to cause them to have to think
or cause them to have to change from like you said,
from they're predetermined in your head. You know, you've got
an idea or you've thought about how it's gonna happen,
and it never happens.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
There's a movie in your mind.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, there's a movie up there going on in your head,
and you think everything is going along. Well, yeah, the
minute the script takes a takes a hard rite and
you go, well, well, that's not how I plan this.
You better have a you better have a way to
change things and react to that.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
So for those of you that are firearm owners and
you know you believe in the Second Amendment and you've
thought about the whole idea of personal defense, I think
what we're suggesting to you is you need to now
step up your training from paper targets to something a
little bit more realistic and you can help them with that.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, we have a we have a really really nice
machine out there. That's uh that you know in the
military and law enforcement have been using these these type
of things before, their scenario based training machines that gives
you a prompt and gives you a scenario. It's playing
a movie up there. On the screen yep. And we've
been we've incorporated those into our classes for years and
(14:12):
years and years, you know, to try to get people
to think.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
It raises your heart rate a little bit.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It will raise your heart rate some if especially if
you're new to all this.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
It can be extremely stressful. If you're new to this,
you know it's but it's even good for people that
aren't new to it to make you do something different
or see things differently. That's the big thing, is seeing things,
seeing things differently.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
We're talking about the possibilities of what people will face
in this country. Did we get a taste of it
in Austin, Texas just a few days ago. Perhaps more
than likely it was instigated by the actions of America
and Israel in Iran. And the fact of the matter
is we've got a lot of Muslim extremists in this country.
(15:00):
They're taking over communities. We've got one that's been elected.
He's engaging in takiya. He's lying, but he's a Muslim extremist.
Don't don't think for one seconds so around mom, Donnie
is not. He just was kind to the LGBTQ community
because it was expeditious for him to do so. But
we've we've talked about people that have firearms. Now what
about the people JD that have come to the realization
(15:23):
they need to do something. What is the starting point
Someone that's never considered a firearm and now they're thinking
about it.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Well, that's that is the starting point, the thinking about it?
Do I need? Do I need the ability to protect myself?
Do you know? So it's a it's a big decision
because it's a whole lot of Along with that ability
to defend yourself, an ability to defend your neighbor, your home,
whatever else, comes a whole lot of responsibility. And some
people tend to forget that.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
It's not for everybody.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It is not for everybody, and it's but if you're
gonna take on that, if you're going to take on
that responsibility, you also have the risk reponsibility to be proficient.
And that's where a lot of people leave it off.
They'll go buy a gun and treat it like a
rabbit's foot on your keychain. Well, i've got a gun,
I can take care of myself. It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
No, it does not.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
It's you need to be spending as much or more
money or time or effort on practicing and getting proficient.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
What's step one?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Step one, I would say is always this is get
some professional training, get an introduction, do it before.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
You pick out a firearm, before you take grandpa's old gun.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And absolutely, I guarantee you there's somebody listening on this
radio today that I have not sold a gun to
over the gun counter that I said, before you do this,
you need to go take a class from us or
somebody else is going to do it the right way,
and you need to take a class. You're not ready
to buy a gun yet.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
And that goes to almost anybody that's the first time
gun on.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Her absolutely, especially if they didn't grow up around them,
if it's a completely new subject, and even if you
did grow up around it and you grew up shooting
a twenty two at cans at the county dump, plinking, plinking.
I grew up shooting shooting rats and cans at the
county dump with my dad.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I grew up shooting birds with my grandfather, shooting you know,
quail hunting and dove hunting, deer hunting, all this. I
grew up doing all those things with shotguns and rifles.
Never got it, never shot handguns until I was in
the police academy, you know, the police academy in nineteen
eighty eight or eighty nine or whenever it was. So
I wasn't familiar with any of this stuff until I
(17:42):
went and did that. And it's a whole different world.
Is There is so little that transfers from plinking hunting
to defending yourself.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
It's what we mentioned with the guys and thes that
have guns, have used guns, and they're sitting there shooting
paper targets. That is not the same thing.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
It is not the same thing. There are some skills
that are do transfer. Sure, I picked up being I
became a good pistol shooter in a lot shorter period
of time than most people do because I was familiar
with shooting, you know, with target shooting. So it does
some of the skills transfer, but the mindset is completely different.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
So step one to anybody that's not a gun owner
that is now thinking about being a gun owner is
get training. Get some train first before you pick out
a firearm. That's number one, absolutely JD. We've got them
now thinking Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna get some training.
What else what follows.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Well after the training, then you got to pick out equipment.
You know what you're going to carry, how you're going
to carry it, What ammunition am I going to use?
And we cover a lot of this stuff, and you
going to pick up a lot of this stuff if
you start down this path, there's different there's different different
ammunition for training than there is for effective self defense
(19:09):
and all of those things. But this is a this
is a can't be taken lightly. It is a huge responsibility.
Yes it is, and the the effort that goes into
it is a lifetime of effort. You don't quit, you've
been you you still train. I still train, not as
(19:31):
much as I should be the first one to admit,
you know.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
But you have a lifetime experience to fall back on.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I do.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Rest of us don't.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I can go out and practice just a little bit
and be right back up to the speed I need
to be, you know, the operation operationally speaking. So, but
it takes a long time to develop those skills.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
So what about the guy listening out there that, with
the best of intentions, is thinking, well, you know, I'm
away a lot. This is a serious thing that's happening
in our country. I want my wife as prepared as possible.
And man, they think the little lady needs a revolver,
so they just go to the gun counter.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Well that's not just that, it's it's I got I
gotta go buy my wife a gun. I gotta go
get my wife a gun. See this across the counter,
and I'm like, get your wife some training if she's
willing to do it. Hm, you know, And I see
the same faces sometime over the counter. Well, I bought
that one from a wife and she don't like it.
I kind of like it, so I'm gonna keep it.
And I mean, just be honest with me, dude, if
(20:33):
you want to buy a new gun, I get it. Yeah,
like guns too, uh you know. So don't don't go
by your wife anything unless your wife's standing there to
let her try it and whatever. You know, she needs
to pick it out. She needs to make that commitment.
And we have a lot we have women's groups that
come out and train together and to get away from
sometimes is maybe just to get away from the house
(20:54):
and go hang out with other other ladies and have
a good time, just kind of like I like to
go hunting with my buddies.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Factor fiction The best gun to start a lady out
with is a revolver.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Absolute fiction, absolute fiction.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
You're a little lady needs a revolver?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, yeah. And revolvers require more skill to operate properly
than some my autos do in my professional opinion, And
they're more punishing to the hand. They're less comfortable to shoot.
They weren't, I guarantee you yes. And but there are
also a lot of guys that sell their wife short.
I can't figure out. It's like Charlie says, I can't
figure out how to use the fancy can opener we
(21:31):
got at the house, you know, m But my wife can.
My eighteen year old daughter can run a sewing machine.
I cannot. I don't know what you know. I can't
figure that out. But so she can certainly figure out,
you know, certainly figure out a handgun. And I did
went through this exercise less than a year ago with
my eighteen year old daughter that's away at college. And
(21:52):
I gave her the option of what she wanted to carry.
It didn't matter to me. I just wanted her to
have a gun. Because she's eighteen, she can have a gun.
She can have it in her vehicle. She she goes
to a school where she can have it in her
car out of state. So I made a point of
talking to the police chief at the school where she
goes to. Is it gonna be okay for her to
And he gave me the parameters. Yep, as long as
(22:14):
you keep it locked up and this, this and this
and this, and it's perfectly fine, he said. And I understand.
I'm happy, you know that she's you know, willing to
do that. So let let the person you're buying the
gun for, or getting the gun for, or helping to
choose a gun, let them pick it out and but
get some professional advice.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
And but that goes back to the training. And and
look the fact that it starts at the training, and
I you know, the reality is, and this isn't meant
to be an infomercial, but the fact is, the way
Talent does its training, you'll have the opportunity and that
person would have the opportunity to sample and try different
firms with a certified instructor there yep. And that's key.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And then you're gonna have people at the gun stores
that that have some idea of what the training entails
as well, that can can point you in the right direction. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
So, friends, we've we've done the best we can to
just get you thinking about where we are now. We're
in a different places.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
It's constantly evolving different world that we're living in right now.
And I hope I'm wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me
to see a coordinated effort across this country to introduce
conflict on our shores over here. It's the only way
that it's the only way that our enemies have to
attack us here. Yeah, that's it. There is no other
(23:39):
They don't have the technology, the weaponry, though, whatever else
to attack us here, but they can. They can cause.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Havoc and use our freedoms against us.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Absolutely they can. Thanks for the time, yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
JD. Johnson, Talent Training Group, talent range dot com.
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