June 18, 2026 • 16 mins
Abigail Forman of Liberty Counsel Action joined Preston to discuss a troubling problem in your water source. Yes, it could impact your health.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
And here we are the third hour already Thursday, here
on the Morning Show with Preston Scott. I am Preston,
he is Jose. It's great to be with you, and
we always appreciate you sharing time with us, whether it's
on terrestrial radio or on iHeartRadio, which of course carries
our little humble program across the Fruited Plain and around
the world. And yet we have listeners around the world.
(00:26):
I don't know why, but we do, and we're grateful.
I have had a relationship with Liberty Council for a
long time. Matt Staver has become a friend and a
friend of this program, and of course John Stenberger and
I go back many many years when I was a
vocational pastor. I was John's pastor for a period of
time and count him as a dear friend. And joining
(00:50):
us now in our program is Abigail Foreman. She is
a policy analyst with Liberty Council Action and Abigail, welcome
to the morning. How are you. I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I I don't even know how to begin with this topic.
When John shared about this in a meeting here in
Tallahassee back a few months ago, my jaw kind of
swung open. So I'm going to let you kind of
lay the groundwork before we pick up with what's happening
with regard to the government. But abortion in our water,
(01:25):
please please explain.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yes, and it is jaw dropping. That's a very common reaction,
and it is hard to talk about, you know, just
to warn all those listening, it can be pretty uncomfortable.
But essentially, abortions now primarily occur through a chemical drug protocol.
It's a two pill protocol. And if a pristine and
mis apostle, and this obviously kills a baby, and it
(01:49):
harms women, and it's awful and we need to end it.
But in addition, it also harms our environment. And it
harms our environment in two ways. There's a chemical contamination
and there's biological contamination. The chemical contamination from mythy Prystone
comes through the metabolite of the pill itself. So when
a woman takes the pill myth at Prystone, it forms
three active metabolites in her body. It metabolizes well, then
(02:11):
she excretes it through her urine, through the blood, fetal tissue,
et cetera. All of that that is expelled from her body. Well,
that typically goes into the toilet, it goes through the
pipes into the wastewater systems, and our wastewater treatment systems
are not designed to remove active pharmaceutical contaminants, so then
they go into our rivers, into our waterways, et cetera,
(02:33):
and our drinking water treatment plants then get them to
process for our drinking water. Well, drinking water treatment plants
also do not fully remove pharmaceutical contaminants, and so it's
very very likely that there are active abortion contaminants, these
active contaminants from the pill itself that are in tapwater
in trace amounts. Why this is problematic is because of
(02:55):
how the pill itself works. Mythipriystone works by blocking progesterone,
which is a vital fertility hormone. Men need it, women
need it, and in pregnancy, women need it to help
baby develop. When you block progesterone, you're cutting off nutrients
to the baby, effectively starving the baby. So if we
are as Americans consuming trace amounts of something designed to
(03:18):
inhibit fertility, this is a mass problem and it's something
the government absolutely needs to dive into and research.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
In addition to the chemical contamination, we have biological contamination.
And this is where it gets really really difficult to
listen to. Obviously, when you kill a baby, the baby
is expelled from the uterus, but in addition, you have
the placento, the umbilical court, all of the blood, et cetera,
that goes into the toilet. Well that also goes to
our wastewater treatment plants. And again, our wastewater treatment systems
(03:46):
we're not meant to process human remains and medical waste.
We have morgs and medical waste facilities for that purpose,
and yet we are treating our wastewater facilities as mass graves.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
How have has this been documented?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Well, it's documented in several different ways. First, probably and
this is the you know, just the sort of the
obvious way that we know this is happening is that
when women go to get the pill, abortion providers typically
instruct them to flush the remains. You can look at
multiple websites on this. You know that there's a eight
(04:24):
Access is one of the websites that you can buy
abortion pills online, and they ship them ilegally into pro
life states and they actually stay on there. And this
is really disturbing to me. But they say you know,
if you see the embryo at eight to nine weeks,
this can be distressing, no kidding, it is not just distressing,
it's traumatizing to these women. But then they say it's
best to just flush it. And so we know that
(04:47):
women are intend to flush this. And then you have
reports of fetuses, babies that are found in pipes, that
are clogging pipes that are found in wastewater treatment plans.
These go back reports I've found go back to twenty ten.
Pilled protocol was approved in two thousand. But then when
you look at the chemical contamination, we see that documented
(05:07):
internationally in different areas. Though in China and in Switzerland
they've found mythic cristone in their rivers and wastewater effluence,
which is just a refluence, just a fancy way of
saying the water that is discharged from the wastewater treatment plants.
And then there are also there's also a coming study
from another organization that has done a peer reviewed research
(05:29):
study on it mythic crystone in our water in the US,
and that's not yet published, but we believe that that
will but also just basically prove what we're saying.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And we've talked for well, I've been doing this program
for better than twenty four years now, and we've talked
about the disposable nature of culture. You know, for a
few hundred bucks, you can dispose of a marriage. For less,
you can dispose of a human life living inside the
womb of a mom. And I guess, Abigail, we're at
(06:07):
a stage right now with this type of abortion that
we're just kind of feeding into that mentality we've developed
as a culture of oh, well, let's just take a
pill and make it go away.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
That's absolutely right. And what's even more tragic is we've
made it incredibly easy with mail order abortion. It's essentially
like Amazon. You can just go online, get the pills,
have them sent to you, and you know, without the
medical intervention there, without going in person to see an
abortion provider to verify your gestation and things of that nature,
(06:40):
it just becomes incredibly more dangerous for the woman. And
then you also have the issue of abusive men, human traffickers,
et cetera having easy access to these pills. So it's
just a pretty awful health crisis on multiple levels. But
now it's also an environmental crisis.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Missouri Attorney General Catherine Hannaway has authored a note signed
on by thirteen other attorneys general, including Florida's own James Uthmeyer.
Tell us about her note and what is being proposed.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Absolutely so, she and these other attorneys general have joined
a growing coalition of folks that are trying to get
the Environmental Protection Agency to add Mythic christone and its
metabolite to their contaminant candidate list. Now, the Safe Drinking
Water Act requires the EPA to develop this list, this
(07:33):
contaminant candidate list every five years, and they opened a
public comment period for the draft version. So they opened
their draft version. They had an open public comment period
that's closed now, but they were so listening comments to say,
you know, have we missed any contaminants? Well, both Liberty
Council Action, thousands of others, and now these attorneys general
(07:53):
have written to the EPA and said, yes, you have
missed Mythic christone. You need to add Mytha christone to
the contaminate candidate because it is a growing concern. She
points out, just like I mentioned earlier, how michipriystone forms
active metabolites that remain in our water after wastewater treatment,
after drinking water treatment. She also points out that this
(08:14):
is an end of crin disrupting chemical. We talk about
this in our special report on abortion in Our Water,
which you can find at our website abortion in Ourwater
dot org. But essentially, an end of crim disrupting chemical
is any chemical that disrupts the way your body's hormones
are meant to work, so it mimics or interferes or
blocks with blocks your hormones, and misudprystone is one of them. Well,
(08:38):
endocrins disrupting chemicals have come under an increasing amount of
scrutiny recently. We know that they can cause harm in
trace amounts over time. And in fact, another set of
endocrind disrupting chemicals, p fasts or forever chemicals, have really
come under scrutiny to the extent that the EPA has
now decided to regulate them. They're looking at regulating at
(08:58):
least two of them in hearts per trillion. And so
what the attorney generals are saying, and what we are
saying is well, that's great, but hey, do you recognize
that maybe pristine has the exact same capacity to be harmful,
to disrupt our body's hormones and therefore, will you please
regulate it, put it on this list, start to research it,
(09:18):
do the research you should have done back in two
thousand when you originally approved the pills, and make sure
that you're protecting Americans.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Abigail stand by. I want to pick up right there.
We're going to expand the discussion just a little bit.
One segment to go. Abigail Foreman with Liberty Council Action,
my guest here in the Morning Show with President Scott.
The website Abortion in Our Water dot org. Abigail, is
there is there any verification? I mean, Florida, we've got
(09:47):
you know, we got laws here on on abortion and limits.
And while I think we would all love to see
it not happen at all, but across the country generally speaking,
how do you how do you know where the pregnancy
is before someone takes one of these pills.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Well, that's just it. We don't really know how far
along the woman is when she is taking these pills
because there's no in person requirement. So back in two
thousand when they approved the jug, you had to go
to the doctor three times when you did the abortion
pill protocol. Now you don't have to go to the
doctor at all. They removed two of those business in
twenty sixteen, and they removed the last one under Biden
(10:24):
in twenty twenty one. Formalize that in twenty twenty three,
and now a woman can get the pills just by
estimating her her gestations. Well, the tragic reality is a
lot of women don't know how far along they are,
and so they're getting these pills when they're twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
fifteen weeks and upwards. There was a case in England
where women got these pills. She was thirty two to
thirty four weeks pregnant, and she's traumatized. You know she is, actually,
(10:48):
she said, haunted by the death of her baby. And
that's very likely happening here because we're not requiring women
to go into a clinic to get their pregnancy verified. Well,
then what do you have have a woman at home,
alone in her bathroom basically giving birth to her preborn,
her preborn child who's most likely already passed away because
(11:11):
of Missy Priston's starving the baby, and then what does
she do with it? She doesn't know, she was told
by the abortion provider, just flushed the baby. And so
you have babies that are being flushed into the toilets. Now,
at ten weeks a baby is one inch. At twelve
weeks a baby is two inches, and it goes up
from there. Well, babies don't break down like toilet waste,
like toilet paper, et cetera. They're able to clog toilets
(11:35):
and they have. You know, there's a case in Houston,
Texas where there was an apartment complex that had its
sewers back up. You know, you're getting all these backups
into people's bathrooms who they found a fetus, a baby
in the pipe system. And this is, as I say,
it's scandalous. In any other context, if you were in
(11:57):
a hospital and a hospital said over flushing all the
medical waste, and you know, we're just going to flush
it down the toilet, there would be an absolute outcry.
And in fact, even in the abortion industry, in an
abortion clinic, if you have an abortion surgically, you are
required to dispose of the of everything properly. There are
medical waste laws in every single state medical waste regulations
(12:20):
to require proper dispose. You don't flush medical waste plus bnaes,
et cetera. You do not flush it down the toilet.
Yet the abortion industry has been given a free path
to do this because you know, in my view, they're
just impervious to scrutiny. They're like the untouchable entity, even
if they're harming the environment, harming women, et cetera. Politically,
it's such a charged issue. We can't seem to break
(12:40):
through or really hoping we can break through on this
because really nobody should want to drink water contaminated with abortions.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So, if I understand correctly, part of this is in
the EPA perview and the overview of our water supply.
Is there an overlap with the FDA.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Absolutely, yes, they both have purview. So the SEA should
have done an environmental assessment. The FDA has to do
an environmental assessment every time they approved a drug. Well,
when they did their environmental assessment, they actually on this
abortion pill protocol. They didn't really do it themselves. They
just accepted the word of the Population Council. The Population
(13:22):
Council is a biased entity who promotes abortion, has ties
to the eugenics movement, et cetera. They basically said, yeah,
we're fine, it's not going to pollute the environment, and
the FDA said that sounds good and didn't actually dive
any deeper. We detail this pretty extensively in our special
report how the fd violated the Clean Water Act and
(13:42):
the National Environmental Policy Act when they approved the pills
by failing to do a comprehensive environmental assessment. And then
the Environmental Protection Agency has purview over clean water, so
they can require, for example, mister Kristen to be put
on their contaminant candidate list. And really the EPA and
the FDA should be working together on this to a
understand what's happening to our water, but be implement proper protocols.
(14:06):
So you know, Representative Mary Miller introduced a bill of
the Clean Water for All Life that that would require
the abortion providers to give a catch kit to women
so that they collect the human remains and the medical
waste associated with the abortion so they don't flush it
down the toilet. Ideally, you know, like you say, we
shouldn't be murdering babies, we just should just stop. But
(14:28):
if we are going to I would argue we need
to cremate and vary. Then we need to dignify this
human life, not flush it.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Down the toilet. Lastly, is is the Is this something
that should be reviewed by the Department of Justice or
should this be elevated even beyond to congressional action.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I would say both. So the Department of Justice actually
should be enforcing the Contumstock de Act, which is a
related issue. The Comumpstack Act basically prohibits the mailing of
a bord efficient drugs. If we enforced Comstock, we would
basically put an end to about a third of abortions overnight,
which would be phenomenal. So that the Department of Justice, yes,
please please enforce the Comstock Act. And then you know, Congress, yes,
(15:12):
we want Congress act. We want Congress to pass the
Clean Water for All Life Acts and work with the FDA,
work with the administration to enforce the in person dispensing requirement.
So the FDA, when they remove the in person dispensing requirement,
most likely we would argue they violated the loss because
it was an arbitrary decision. They actually said there was
(15:34):
not the literature to support that decision. They know it's unsafe.
They know it's unsafe to not require women to go
into a clinic to be you know, checked out by
a medical provider before they get the abortion pill, and
so it's all all of the above. We should all
be doing what we can. And then, you know, to
the folks listening, I'd say my first and foremost action
(15:54):
would be prey. But then also go to abortion in
Ourwater dot org and get educated, start talking talking about
this to folks. And when you talk about why your
pro life, just add a couple of words to your
elevator pitch. So I'm pro life because abortion kills babies,
harms women, and contaminates our water.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Abigail, thanks for the time. I'm sure we'll visit again.
I appreciate it very much.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Abigail Foreman, Liberty counsel, Action policy analyst. She's also author
of the report Abortion in Our Water. You can go
to the website and learn more Abortioninourwater dot org
And here we are the third hour already Thursday, here
on the Morning Show with Preston Scott. I am Preston,
he is Jose. It's great to be with you, and
we always appreciate you sharing time with us, whether it's
on terrestrial radio or on iHeartRadio, which of course carries
our little humble program across the Fruited Plain and around
the world. And yet we have listeners around the world.
(00:26):
I don't know why, but we do, and we're grateful.
I have had a relationship with Liberty Council for a
long time. Matt Staver has become a friend and a
friend of this program, and of course John Stenberger and
I go back many many years when I was a
vocational pastor. I was John's pastor for a period of
time and count him as a dear friend. And joining
(00:50):
us now in our program is Abigail Foreman. She is
a policy analyst with Liberty Council Action and Abigail, welcome
to the morning. How are you. I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I I don't even know how to begin with this topic.
When John shared about this in a meeting here in
Tallahassee back a few months ago, my jaw kind of
swung open. So I'm going to let you kind of
lay the groundwork before we pick up with what's happening
with regard to the government. But abortion in our water,
(01:25):
please please explain.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yes, and it is jaw dropping. That's a very common reaction,
and it is hard to talk about, you know, just
to warn all those listening, it can be pretty uncomfortable.
But essentially, abortions now primarily occur through a chemical drug protocol.
It's a two pill protocol. And if a pristine and
mis apostle, and this obviously kills a baby, and it
(01:49):
harms women, and it's awful and we need to end it.
But in addition, it also harms our environment. And it
harms our environment in two ways. There's a chemical contamination
and there's biological contamination. The chemical contamination from mythy Prystone
comes through the metabolite of the pill itself. So when
a woman takes the pill myth at Prystone, it forms
three active metabolites in her body. It metabolizes well, then
(02:11):
she excretes it through her urine, through the blood, fetal tissue,
et cetera. All of that that is expelled from her body. Well,
that typically goes into the toilet, it goes through the
pipes into the wastewater systems, and our wastewater treatment systems
are not designed to remove active pharmaceutical contaminants, so then
they go into our rivers, into our waterways, et cetera,
(02:33):
and our drinking water treatment plants then get them to
process for our drinking water. Well, drinking water treatment plants
also do not fully remove pharmaceutical contaminants, and so it's
very very likely that there are active abortion contaminants, these
active contaminants from the pill itself that are in tapwater
in trace amounts. Why this is problematic is because of
(02:55):
how the pill itself works. Mythipriystone works by blocking progesterone,
which is a vital fertility hormone. Men need it, women
need it, and in pregnancy, women need it to help
baby develop. When you block progesterone, you're cutting off nutrients
to the baby, effectively starving the baby. So if we
are as Americans consuming trace amounts of something designed to
(03:18):
inhibit fertility, this is a mass problem and it's something
the government absolutely needs to dive into and research.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
In addition to the chemical contamination, we have biological contamination.
And this is where it gets really really difficult to
listen to. Obviously, when you kill a baby, the baby
is expelled from the uterus, but in addition, you have
the placento, the umbilical court, all of the blood, et cetera,
that goes into the toilet. Well that also goes to
our wastewater treatment plants. And again, our wastewater treatment systems
(03:46):
we're not meant to process human remains and medical waste.
We have morgs and medical waste facilities for that purpose,
and yet we are treating our wastewater facilities as mass graves.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
How have has this been documented?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Well, it's documented in several different ways. First, probably and
this is the you know, just the sort of the
obvious way that we know this is happening is that
when women go to get the pill, abortion providers typically
instruct them to flush the remains. You can look at
multiple websites on this. You know that there's a eight
(04:24):
Access is one of the websites that you can buy
abortion pills online, and they ship them ilegally into pro
life states and they actually stay on there. And this
is really disturbing to me. But they say you know,
if you see the embryo at eight to nine weeks,
this can be distressing, no kidding, it is not just distressing,
it's traumatizing to these women. But then they say it's
best to just flush it. And so we know that
(04:47):
women are intend to flush this. And then you have
reports of fetuses, babies that are found in pipes, that
are clogging pipes that are found in wastewater treatment plans.
These go back reports I've found go back to twenty ten.
Pilled protocol was approved in two thousand. But then when
you look at the chemical contamination, we see that documented
(05:07):
internationally in different areas. Though in China and in Switzerland
they've found mythic cristone in their rivers and wastewater effluence,
which is just a refluence, just a fancy way of
saying the water that is discharged from the wastewater treatment plants.
And then there are also there's also a coming study
from another organization that has done a peer reviewed research
(05:29):
study on it mythic crystone in our water in the US,
and that's not yet published, but we believe that that
will but also just basically prove what we're saying.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And we've talked for well, I've been doing this program
for better than twenty four years now, and we've talked
about the disposable nature of culture. You know, for a
few hundred bucks, you can dispose of a marriage. For less,
you can dispose of a human life living inside the
womb of a mom. And I guess, Abigail, we're at
(06:07):
a stage right now with this type of abortion that
we're just kind of feeding into that mentality we've developed
as a culture of oh, well, let's just take a
pill and make it go away.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
That's absolutely right. And what's even more tragic is we've
made it incredibly easy with mail order abortion. It's essentially
like Amazon. You can just go online, get the pills,
have them sent to you, and you know, without the
medical intervention there, without going in person to see an
abortion provider to verify your gestation and things of that nature,
(06:40):
it just becomes incredibly more dangerous for the woman. And
then you also have the issue of abusive men, human traffickers,
et cetera having easy access to these pills. So it's
just a pretty awful health crisis on multiple levels. But
now it's also an environmental crisis.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Missouri Attorney General Catherine Hannaway has authored a note signed
on by thirteen other attorneys general, including Florida's own James Uthmeyer.
Tell us about her note and what is being proposed.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Absolutely so, she and these other attorneys general have joined
a growing coalition of folks that are trying to get
the Environmental Protection Agency to add Mythic christone and its
metabolite to their contaminant candidate list. Now, the Safe Drinking
Water Act requires the EPA to develop this list, this
(07:33):
contaminant candidate list every five years, and they opened a
public comment period for the draft version. So they opened
their draft version. They had an open public comment period
that's closed now, but they were so listening comments to say,
you know, have we missed any contaminants? Well, both Liberty
Council Action, thousands of others, and now these attorneys general
(07:53):
have written to the EPA and said, yes, you have
missed Mythic christone. You need to add Mytha christone to
the contaminate candidate because it is a growing concern. She
points out, just like I mentioned earlier, how michipriystone forms
active metabolites that remain in our water after wastewater treatment,
after drinking water treatment. She also points out that this
(08:14):
is an end of crin disrupting chemical. We talk about
this in our special report on abortion in Our Water,
which you can find at our website abortion in Ourwater
dot org. But essentially, an end of crim disrupting chemical
is any chemical that disrupts the way your body's hormones
are meant to work, so it mimics or interferes or
blocks with blocks your hormones, and misudprystone is one of them. Well,
(08:38):
endocrins disrupting chemicals have come under an increasing amount of
scrutiny recently. We know that they can cause harm in
trace amounts over time. And in fact, another set of
endocrind disrupting chemicals, p fasts or forever chemicals, have really
come under scrutiny to the extent that the EPA has
now decided to regulate them. They're looking at regulating at
(08:58):
least two of them in hearts per trillion. And so
what the attorney generals are saying, and what we are
saying is well, that's great, but hey, do you recognize
that maybe pristine has the exact same capacity to be harmful,
to disrupt our body's hormones and therefore, will you please
regulate it, put it on this list, start to research it,
(09:18):
do the research you should have done back in two
thousand when you originally approved the pills, and make sure
that you're protecting Americans.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Abigail stand by. I want to pick up right there.
We're going to expand the discussion just a little bit.
One segment to go. Abigail Foreman with Liberty Council Action,
my guest here in the Morning Show with President Scott.
The website Abortion in Our Water dot org. Abigail, is
there is there any verification? I mean, Florida, we've got
(09:47):
you know, we got laws here on on abortion and limits.
And while I think we would all love to see
it not happen at all, but across the country generally speaking,
how do you how do you know where the pregnancy
is before someone takes one of these pills.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Well, that's just it. We don't really know how far
along the woman is when she is taking these pills
because there's no in person requirement. So back in two
thousand when they approved the jug, you had to go
to the doctor three times when you did the abortion
pill protocol. Now you don't have to go to the
doctor at all. They removed two of those business in
twenty sixteen, and they removed the last one under Biden
(10:24):
in twenty twenty one. Formalize that in twenty twenty three,
and now a woman can get the pills just by
estimating her her gestations. Well, the tragic reality is a
lot of women don't know how far along they are,
and so they're getting these pills when they're twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
fifteen weeks and upwards. There was a case in England
where women got these pills. She was thirty two to
thirty four weeks pregnant, and she's traumatized. You know she is, actually,
(10:48):
she said, haunted by the death of her baby. And
that's very likely happening here because we're not requiring women
to go into a clinic to get their pregnancy verified. Well,
then what do you have have a woman at home,
alone in her bathroom basically giving birth to her preborn,
her preborn child who's most likely already passed away because
(11:11):
of Missy Priston's starving the baby, and then what does
she do with it? She doesn't know, she was told
by the abortion provider, just flushed the baby. And so
you have babies that are being flushed into the toilets. Now,
at ten weeks a baby is one inch. At twelve
weeks a baby is two inches, and it goes up
from there. Well, babies don't break down like toilet waste,
like toilet paper, et cetera. They're able to clog toilets
(11:35):
and they have. You know, there's a case in Houston,
Texas where there was an apartment complex that had its
sewers back up. You know, you're getting all these backups
into people's bathrooms who they found a fetus, a baby
in the pipe system. And this is, as I say,
it's scandalous. In any other context, if you were in
(11:57):
a hospital and a hospital said over flushing all the
medical waste, and you know, we're just going to flush
it down the toilet, there would be an absolute outcry.
And in fact, even in the abortion industry, in an
abortion clinic, if you have an abortion surgically, you are
required to dispose of the of everything properly. There are
medical waste laws in every single state medical waste regulations
(12:20):
to require proper dispose. You don't flush medical waste plus bnaes,
et cetera. You do not flush it down the toilet.
Yet the abortion industry has been given a free path
to do this because you know, in my view, they're
just impervious to scrutiny. They're like the untouchable entity, even
if they're harming the environment, harming women, et cetera. Politically,
it's such a charged issue. We can't seem to break
(12:40):
through or really hoping we can break through on this
because really nobody should want to drink water contaminated with abortions.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So, if I understand correctly, part of this is in
the EPA perview and the overview of our water supply.
Is there an overlap with the FDA.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Absolutely, yes, they both have purview. So the SEA should
have done an environmental assessment. The FDA has to do
an environmental assessment every time they approved a drug. Well,
when they did their environmental assessment, they actually on this
abortion pill protocol. They didn't really do it themselves. They
just accepted the word of the Population Council. The Population
(13:22):
Council is a biased entity who promotes abortion, has ties
to the eugenics movement, et cetera. They basically said, yeah,
we're fine, it's not going to pollute the environment, and
the FDA said that sounds good and didn't actually dive
any deeper. We detail this pretty extensively in our special
report how the fd violated the Clean Water Act and
(13:42):
the National Environmental Policy Act when they approved the pills
by failing to do a comprehensive environmental assessment. And then
the Environmental Protection Agency has purview over clean water, so
they can require, for example, mister Kristen to be put
on their contaminant candidate list. And really the EPA and
the FDA should be working together on this to a
understand what's happening to our water, but be implement proper protocols.
(14:06):
So you know, Representative Mary Miller introduced a bill of
the Clean Water for All Life that that would require
the abortion providers to give a catch kit to women
so that they collect the human remains and the medical
waste associated with the abortion so they don't flush it
down the toilet. Ideally, you know, like you say, we
shouldn't be murdering babies, we just should just stop. But
(14:28):
if we are going to I would argue we need
to cremate and vary. Then we need to dignify this
human life, not flush it.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Down the toilet. Lastly, is is the Is this something
that should be reviewed by the Department of Justice or
should this be elevated even beyond to congressional action.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I would say both. So the Department of Justice actually
should be enforcing the Contumstock de Act, which is a
related issue. The Comumpstack Act basically prohibits the mailing of
a bord efficient drugs. If we enforced Comstock, we would
basically put an end to about a third of abortions overnight,
which would be phenomenal. So that the Department of Justice, yes,
please please enforce the Comstock Act. And then you know, Congress, yes,
(15:12):
we want Congress act. We want Congress to pass the
Clean Water for All Life Acts and work with the FDA,
work with the administration to enforce the in person dispensing requirement.
So the FDA, when they remove the in person dispensing requirement,
most likely we would argue they violated the loss because
it was an arbitrary decision. They actually said there was
(15:34):
not the literature to support that decision. They know it's unsafe.
They know it's unsafe to not require women to go
into a clinic to be you know, checked out by
a medical provider before they get the abortion pill, and
so it's all all of the above. We should all
be doing what we can. And then, you know, to
the folks listening, I'd say my first and foremost action
(15:54):
would be prey. But then also go to abortion in
Ourwater dot org and get educated, start talking talking about
this to folks. And when you talk about why your
pro life, just add a couple of words to your
elevator pitch. So I'm pro life because abortion kills babies,
harms women, and contaminates our water.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Abigail, thanks for the time. I'm sure we'll visit again.
I appreciate it very much.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Abigail Foreman, Liberty counsel, Action policy analyst. She's also author
of the report Abortion in Our Water. You can go
to the website and learn more Abortioninourwater dot org
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