March 28, 2025 • 16 mins
The author of the "50 Things ..." books and the entertainment editor at Breitbart.com (and former intern on The Morning Show with Preston Scott) talked over the news of the day in and our of Hollywood. Always a terrific chat.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Wow, and we have an hour left. What a show
by passed Tuesday, March twenty fifth, Show fifty three forty three,
and I am joined by entertainment editor for Breitbart dot Com,
author of the Fifty Things books, and topping it all
off on the resume, a friend, ladies and gentlemen, Jerome
(00:26):
Hudson joins us.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Good morning friend, Good morning sir. Oh, I'm terrific. You know,
I woke up, thank the Lord and got to reading,
so my mind is sharp and you know I'm filling
(00:49):
that workout from last night. Oh, everything's great. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
We just had Riley Gaines on the program and she'll
be coming to Florida State this week. And we've had
around before and I'm just curious, what's it going to
take Drome for the majority of this American public to
have their way and for us to get back to
protecting women's spaces and women's athletics.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So I think it's happening, And you know, I would
look to Virginia and that was sort of an inflection
point I think for the country. You obviously saw the
political ramifications of adults, administrators of schools and sports leagues,
(01:41):
parents obviously furious as the truth came out, not necessarily
because the local media or the national media outside of
Bright Partners and a few other outlets were reporting it,
but because parents were showing up to meetings. And I
(02:05):
think that is generally sort of the pressure that it
takes right of people oriented energy in which people realize
that an unjust is being carried out in the people. Again,
in the government in this case, school administrators oftentimes elected officials,
(02:30):
and in the sports realm particularly, I guess you know,
ages K through twelve and then beyond in the collegiate realm,
there are systems in place. California settled this in twenty
thirteen when their legislature essentially and Governor Brown signed the
law that allowed for boys who were born boys to
(02:54):
play in leagues and on teams with girls. And you know,
you have to assume that it's worked for California. There
have been issues, certainly, and and politicians out there trying
to wrestle with Gavin Newsom just made headlines because he
had he you know, contradicted the law of his of
(03:17):
his land in California when he was he was lieutenant
governor when Brown signed that law. In in places, I
mean the long and short of it is I think
this is a ninety five to five issue. You know,
maybe that five percent of people when you asked him,
(03:39):
do you think that it's fair for you know, biological
males to play in women's sports leagues. You know you
probably would have let five percent down to less than
one percent. And you know, I don't know why the
left and largely the Democratic Party has seated such a
(04:00):
a very common sense issue to the right, to conservatives,
to Republicans, if you want to look at it through
the political lens. I just think it's one of those
It's one of those things, you know, just water's wet
and right is right. Boys should play with boys, Girls
should play with girls after the competition's over. Boys should
(04:21):
go to boys locker rooms, girls should go to girls
locker rooms. So at time and time again, and I've
said of it nausea. Among this program, usually the least
and the Democratic Party, they've been toward a policy or
a philosophical framework that doesn't really care about individualism individual freedom,
(04:43):
and oftentimes that falls out of alignment with common sense.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
E lived minutes past the hour Jerome Hudson with me
from Breitbart Jrome. I was I was chuckling yesterday as
I thought about our conversation and and I'm curious when
a movie like Oh, I don't know snow White comes out,
do you do you go see that movie? Do you
get an advanced preview of it? I mean, how does
(05:20):
Disney first of all, treat Bridbart And secondly, just how
much do you have to go through to cover that
kind of thing?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Uh So to your second to the last question. In
the last couple of years, Disney PR has been good
about reaching out to us on stories. It's not necessarily
that we made a mistake in our recording at Breidbart,
but it's it'll it'll, they'll they'll come to us with
a with a statement if you will, sort of explaining
(05:51):
their side of the story. And that actually happened a
couple of times with this movie. Yeah, we get screeners
all the time, sort of the lingo they used to
sing you DVDs, but now it's it's basically digital copies.
The PR team of a production company will reach out
(06:13):
and you know, if we want to interview casts or whatever,
they'll send us a digital copy of the film. I
try to see everything that I cover that includes comedians,
you know, actors, bands, and obviously TV and film. I
(06:34):
really tried to find time this weekend to see snow Light,
and I because John Notti, one of the greatest writers
on the Internet, usually reviews films, and he's been on
a Gene Hackman run of late because obviously if that
tragical loss of him and his wife. But John Notty
(06:55):
saw the movie and he said, quote, it's a bad
film end quote. He said, it is. It is incongruent
with human human nature, and it is an affront to
the original film. And now that's not just John Milti
for a news saying it. That's not just me agreeing
with it. That is born out in the numbers. Snow
(07:17):
White should have been a movie president that should have
at least done one hundred million dollars easily here in
the United States and somewhere between one hundred and fifty
and two hundred million dollars internationally. The problems began early
with this film. The budget was reportedly two hundred million
dollars that mushroomed to seventy because there were there were
(07:45):
disagreements in creative direction, apparently going back two years ago.
They finished the bulk of the film two years ago,
writer strike, actor strikes and COVID protocols. The budget just
ballooned up to almost one hundred million dollars. You tack
on another one hundred t one hundred and fifty million
dollars to promote the film, which they scaled back because
(08:08):
the star, Rachel Ziegler, is so toxic. It's a four
hundred maybe million dollar disaster, and Disney deserves it. It
is an anomaly in terms of multinational companies, specifically their boardroom.
I mean it is still filled, not wholly, but a
(08:29):
lot of the people who run Disney. Kathleen Kennedy, who
runs Lucasfilm, she hates Star Wars, she hates the franchise.
She thinks it's too masculine. She wants to girl boss
the whole thing up, and a lot of that Wokensissippi
will led into snow white Rachel Ziegler pashed and disparage
the original film. It was a beloved film. It was
(08:52):
an international box office success. Was it was you know,
mostly critically acclaimed. It was a passing project for Walt
Disney himself, and it helped fun the Burbank Park in
southern California. You know, we may not have a Disney
world as we know it today if it were not
for snow White and to put this movie in the
(09:17):
hands of a person who is so vowed, who's twenty
three but thinks she knows everything, and has just further
destroyed an already toxic brand in Disney.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Back with Jerome Hudson at bridebard dot com, entertainment editor,
author of the Fifty Things book. So, is there any
chance while there are some little glimmers of hope in
and around Hollywood since the Trump administration has taken over, Jerome,
is there any chance that a lesson has learned inside
(09:53):
the movie industry, inside Hollywood from this fiasco with Disney
and snow White, that they become more careful about who
they hire for what roles, and how they handle, you know,
just all decisions moving into movie projects moving forward.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Has learned since nineteen ninety four when the Canadian style
tacon center structure sort of cross pollinated to California, is
that Georgia is now the Hollywood or Atlanta, I should
say it now the Hollywood of the South. So the
economic lesson in one part is we will go where
(10:37):
it is economically advantageous for us as an industry to
film movies and TV shows and commercials.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
But let me hang on, let me interrupt you for
a second there. But it even if snow White is
filmed in Georgia, it doesn't change much of the bottom
line because of the toxic nature that you outlined so
well of the actress and everything surrounding the film. And
that's what I'm wondering. I'm wondering if this is just
now going to be look at the money they're going
(11:05):
to lose on this thing, all because of an idiot
running the studio and lead actress.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Right, this was so snow Light was never going to
be a film that you know, males, I guess preteen
to the sixty we're going to go see right, So no,
Rachel Ziegler. Should they have known that Rachel Ziegeler guests
a massive social media community and following in presence, Yes,
(11:36):
and they tried to trade on that. But what Disney
couldn't account for is that she's a very toxic woman
who is on the wrong side of the Israel Palestine war.
She's on the wrong side or gender issue, She's on
the wrong side of political issues, and by wrong side
of political issues. I mean, you can support Kamala Harris,
but to damn all Trump's supporters and voters to hell
(12:00):
is essentially what she did in a way like Disney
can't account for that. And this is the new generation.
It's like you talk to any sports coach. The kids
are just different these days, and so Hollywood trying to
navigate that is. You know, there are not a lot
of Rachel Zieglers, and I'm pretty sure lessons will be learned.
(12:20):
But the reports are president that she ignored Disney executives
who were trying to rein her in, trying to explain
to her the simple math that you cannot smear and
castigate half the country.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Well, she bragged people would wait in line to see
her in this movie, and no one waited in line anywhere.
There were previews where the theaters were empty.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah. No, I published the story yesterday of those just
a collection of videos of how this snow white bombed
in real time. Again. Disney is a little bit of
an anomaly in the sense, you know, Warner Brothers has
a resident and CEO Wanner Discovery in David Zaslov. This
(13:05):
guy is a slasher, he's a barner, He's no nonsense.
He's about good content, and he's canceled wope projects that
are one hundred million dollars in and so over time,
these we're this is gonna happen again, and it's it's
gonna happen outside of Disney. It's probably more likely to
happen with Disney. But the economics of this are are
(13:30):
are dismal because most of the theaters in this country
are owned by by people like you and me, but
by people listening in the audience right now, they're not
owned by mega corporation. It's now that's changing a little bit.
But Disney going woke is actually hurting the bottom line
of small business multiplex owners, and that is the part
(13:54):
of it. It's because so much of it could be mitigated.
President just make classic movies and TV shows, you know,
like he did for the first eighty five yigures of
your history. This is truly a sad example of going
woke and going broke. It hurts communities with the theaters
(14:15):
and it didn't have to be this way. Mark Read,
the director, is an amazing visionary, but he, you know,
five years in, was given this horrible product that nobody
wants to see because it's star was so toxic.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Well, it might be bad for the business world of
Hollywood and those affiliated with it, but it's great for
your business Jerome and Breitbart dot Com and the entertainment page.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah. I the other side of my mouth, I don't
hesitate to say that, you know it is it is
good content. Look, I would coach up the leftist consultants,
Democrat politicians, but they won't listen. There is an error
gifts right now, even in defeat, even as they have
(15:03):
lost politically, as clearly the country has shifted. I mean,
the data on the election is still coming out. And
if if every Republican registered Republicans voted, Kamala would have lost,
Like Kamala's defeat could have been bigger. It's almost, you know,
a gift that some people just thought that Trump had
(15:24):
it in the bag right in itself is interesting, but
the less they don't get it rest And I mean again,
these are these are people who on the issue of life.
They weren't talking about the emotion and of the the
hard decision that it that it would take to have
an abortion and lost in the pain. These were people
(15:46):
talking about shout your abortion.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I know, I know, tone deaf, my friend tone deaf.
Jerome got to run, brother God bless talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Love you, Love you too, all right.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Jerome Hadson with us bridebart dot com entertainment page editor,
but he waxes on anything, and often does here on
the Morning Show with Preston Scott.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
M hmm
Wow, and we have an hour left. What a show
by passed Tuesday, March twenty fifth, Show fifty three forty three,
and I am joined by entertainment editor for Breitbart dot Com,
author of the Fifty Things books, and topping it all
off on the resume, a friend, ladies and gentlemen, Jerome
(00:26):
Hudson joins us.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Good morning friend, Good morning sir. Oh, I'm terrific. You know,
I woke up, thank the Lord and got to reading,
so my mind is sharp and you know I'm filling
(00:49):
that workout from last night. Oh, everything's great. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
We just had Riley Gaines on the program and she'll
be coming to Florida State this week. And we've had
around before and I'm just curious, what's it going to
take Drome for the majority of this American public to
have their way and for us to get back to
protecting women's spaces and women's athletics.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So I think it's happening, And you know, I would
look to Virginia and that was sort of an inflection
point I think for the country. You obviously saw the
political ramifications of adults, administrators of schools and sports leagues,
(01:41):
parents obviously furious as the truth came out, not necessarily
because the local media or the national media outside of
Bright Partners and a few other outlets were reporting it,
but because parents were showing up to meetings. And I
(02:05):
think that is generally sort of the pressure that it
takes right of people oriented energy in which people realize
that an unjust is being carried out in the people. Again,
in the government in this case, school administrators oftentimes elected officials,
(02:30):
and in the sports realm particularly, I guess you know,
ages K through twelve and then beyond in the collegiate realm,
there are systems in place. California settled this in twenty
thirteen when their legislature essentially and Governor Brown signed the
law that allowed for boys who were born boys to
(02:54):
play in leagues and on teams with girls. And you know,
you have to assume that it's worked for California. There
have been issues, certainly, and and politicians out there trying
to wrestle with Gavin Newsom just made headlines because he
had he you know, contradicted the law of his of
(03:17):
his land in California when he was he was lieutenant
governor when Brown signed that law. In in places, I
mean the long and short of it is I think
this is a ninety five to five issue. You know,
maybe that five percent of people when you asked him,
(03:39):
do you think that it's fair for you know, biological
males to play in women's sports leagues. You know you
probably would have let five percent down to less than
one percent. And you know, I don't know why the
left and largely the Democratic Party has seated such a
(04:00):
a very common sense issue to the right, to conservatives,
to Republicans, if you want to look at it through
the political lens. I just think it's one of those
It's one of those things, you know, just water's wet
and right is right. Boys should play with boys, Girls
should play with girls after the competition's over. Boys should
(04:21):
go to boys locker rooms, girls should go to girls
locker rooms. So at time and time again, and I've
said of it nausea. Among this program, usually the least
and the Democratic Party, they've been toward a policy or
a philosophical framework that doesn't really care about individualism individual freedom,
(04:43):
and oftentimes that falls out of alignment with common sense.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
E lived minutes past the hour Jerome Hudson with me
from Breitbart Jrome. I was I was chuckling yesterday as
I thought about our conversation and and I'm curious when
a movie like Oh, I don't know snow White comes out,
do you do you go see that movie? Do you
get an advanced preview of it? I mean, how does
(05:20):
Disney first of all, treat Bridbart And secondly, just how
much do you have to go through to cover that
kind of thing?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Uh So to your second to the last question. In
the last couple of years, Disney PR has been good
about reaching out to us on stories. It's not necessarily
that we made a mistake in our recording at Breidbart,
but it's it'll it'll, they'll they'll come to us with
a with a statement if you will, sort of explaining
(05:51):
their side of the story. And that actually happened a
couple of times with this movie. Yeah, we get screeners
all the time, sort of the lingo they used to
sing you DVDs, but now it's it's basically digital copies.
The PR team of a production company will reach out
(06:13):
and you know, if we want to interview casts or whatever,
they'll send us a digital copy of the film. I
try to see everything that I cover that includes comedians,
you know, actors, bands, and obviously TV and film. I
(06:34):
really tried to find time this weekend to see snow Light,
and I because John Notti, one of the greatest writers
on the Internet, usually reviews films, and he's been on
a Gene Hackman run of late because obviously if that
tragical loss of him and his wife. But John Notty
(06:55):
saw the movie and he said, quote, it's a bad
film end quote. He said, it is. It is incongruent
with human human nature, and it is an affront to
the original film. And now that's not just John Milti
for a news saying it. That's not just me agreeing
with it. That is born out in the numbers. Snow
(07:17):
White should have been a movie president that should have
at least done one hundred million dollars easily here in
the United States and somewhere between one hundred and fifty
and two hundred million dollars internationally. The problems began early
with this film. The budget was reportedly two hundred million
dollars that mushroomed to seventy because there were there were
(07:45):
disagreements in creative direction, apparently going back two years ago.
They finished the bulk of the film two years ago,
writer strike, actor strikes and COVID protocols. The budget just
ballooned up to almost one hundred million dollars. You tack
on another one hundred t one hundred and fifty million
dollars to promote the film, which they scaled back because
(08:08):
the star, Rachel Ziegler, is so toxic. It's a four
hundred maybe million dollar disaster, and Disney deserves it. It
is an anomaly in terms of multinational companies, specifically their boardroom.
I mean it is still filled, not wholly, but a
(08:29):
lot of the people who run Disney. Kathleen Kennedy, who
runs Lucasfilm, she hates Star Wars, she hates the franchise.
She thinks it's too masculine. She wants to girl boss
the whole thing up, and a lot of that Wokensissippi
will led into snow white Rachel Ziegler pashed and disparage
the original film. It was a beloved film. It was
(08:52):
an international box office success. Was it was you know,
mostly critically acclaimed. It was a passing project for Walt
Disney himself, and it helped fun the Burbank Park in
southern California. You know, we may not have a Disney
world as we know it today if it were not
for snow White and to put this movie in the
(09:17):
hands of a person who is so vowed, who's twenty
three but thinks she knows everything, and has just further
destroyed an already toxic brand in Disney.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Back with Jerome Hudson at bridebard dot com, entertainment editor,
author of the Fifty Things book. So, is there any
chance while there are some little glimmers of hope in
and around Hollywood since the Trump administration has taken over, Jerome,
is there any chance that a lesson has learned inside
(09:53):
the movie industry, inside Hollywood from this fiasco with Disney
and snow White, that they become more careful about who
they hire for what roles, and how they handle, you know,
just all decisions moving into movie projects moving forward.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Has learned since nineteen ninety four when the Canadian style
tacon center structure sort of cross pollinated to California, is
that Georgia is now the Hollywood or Atlanta, I should
say it now the Hollywood of the South. So the
economic lesson in one part is we will go where
(10:37):
it is economically advantageous for us as an industry to
film movies and TV shows and commercials.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
But let me hang on, let me interrupt you for
a second there. But it even if snow White is
filmed in Georgia, it doesn't change much of the bottom
line because of the toxic nature that you outlined so
well of the actress and everything surrounding the film. And
that's what I'm wondering. I'm wondering if this is just
now going to be look at the money they're going
(11:05):
to lose on this thing, all because of an idiot
running the studio and lead actress.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Right, this was so snow Light was never going to
be a film that you know, males, I guess preteen
to the sixty we're going to go see right, So no,
Rachel Ziegler. Should they have known that Rachel Ziegeler guests
a massive social media community and following in presence, Yes,
(11:36):
and they tried to trade on that. But what Disney
couldn't account for is that she's a very toxic woman
who is on the wrong side of the Israel Palestine war.
She's on the wrong side or gender issue, She's on
the wrong side of political issues, and by wrong side
of political issues. I mean, you can support Kamala Harris,
but to damn all Trump's supporters and voters to hell
(12:00):
is essentially what she did in a way like Disney
can't account for that. And this is the new generation.
It's like you talk to any sports coach. The kids
are just different these days, and so Hollywood trying to
navigate that is. You know, there are not a lot
of Rachel Zieglers, and I'm pretty sure lessons will be learned.
(12:20):
But the reports are president that she ignored Disney executives
who were trying to rein her in, trying to explain
to her the simple math that you cannot smear and
castigate half the country.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Well, she bragged people would wait in line to see
her in this movie, and no one waited in line anywhere.
There were previews where the theaters were empty.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah. No, I published the story yesterday of those just
a collection of videos of how this snow white bombed
in real time. Again. Disney is a little bit of
an anomaly in the sense, you know, Warner Brothers has
a resident and CEO Wanner Discovery in David Zaslov. This
(13:05):
guy is a slasher, he's a barner, He's no nonsense.
He's about good content, and he's canceled wope projects that
are one hundred million dollars in and so over time,
these we're this is gonna happen again, and it's it's
gonna happen outside of Disney. It's probably more likely to
happen with Disney. But the economics of this are are
(13:30):
are dismal because most of the theaters in this country
are owned by by people like you and me, but
by people listening in the audience right now, they're not
owned by mega corporation. It's now that's changing a little bit.
But Disney going woke is actually hurting the bottom line
of small business multiplex owners, and that is the part
(13:54):
of it. It's because so much of it could be mitigated.
President just make classic movies and TV shows, you know,
like he did for the first eighty five yigures of
your history. This is truly a sad example of going
woke and going broke. It hurts communities with the theaters
(14:15):
and it didn't have to be this way. Mark Read,
the director, is an amazing visionary, but he, you know,
five years in, was given this horrible product that nobody
wants to see because it's star was so toxic.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Well, it might be bad for the business world of
Hollywood and those affiliated with it, but it's great for
your business Jerome and Breitbart dot Com and the entertainment page.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah. I the other side of my mouth, I don't
hesitate to say that, you know it is it is
good content. Look, I would coach up the leftist consultants,
Democrat politicians, but they won't listen. There is an error
gifts right now, even in defeat, even as they have
(15:03):
lost politically, as clearly the country has shifted. I mean,
the data on the election is still coming out. And
if if every Republican registered Republicans voted, Kamala would have lost,
Like Kamala's defeat could have been bigger. It's almost, you know,
a gift that some people just thought that Trump had
(15:24):
it in the bag right in itself is interesting, but
the less they don't get it rest And I mean again,
these are these are people who on the issue of life.
They weren't talking about the emotion and of the the
hard decision that it that it would take to have
an abortion and lost in the pain. These were people
(15:46):
talking about shout your abortion.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I know, I know, tone deaf, my friend tone deaf.
Jerome got to run, brother God bless talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Love you, Love you too, all right.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Jerome Hadson with us bridebart dot com entertainment page editor,
but he waxes on anything, and often does here on
the Morning Show with Preston Scott.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
M hmm
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