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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi, good morning friends, Welcome to the second hour The
Morning Show with Prestin Scott. It is Monday, March sixteenth.
We outside careful, take your time. But the kids are
not out in school, not on the buses, not driving around,
so that helps a little bit more more than a
little bit. Show fifty five sixty three of this fine
radio program. I told you we were going to update
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things what's going on in the Middle East, and to
do that, we've got a unique perspective. Stephen Moore is
founder of the Ukraine Freedom Project and he joins us
on the program. Stephen, good morning, how are you pressing?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Tell us about the Ukraine Freedom Project. What brought this about?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well, listen, when the Russians launched their full scale invasion
of Ukraine, I went over to help. I went arrived
in Ukraine on day five of the war for a
couple of reasons. One just because it seemed to be
the right thing to do. I had a little time
in my hands, and I wanted to help. And you know,
and the Russians are are not our friends, and so
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I thought anytime to be able to push back against
the Russians would be a good use of my time.
So I went over on day five of the war
started doing humanitarian aid. And now what I'm doing is
I'm going to the front. I'm going to different places
around there get first hand information. Is that I can
chat with people like you in Florida.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Where does this intersect with what's going on in the
Middle East right now?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
In your opinion, Well, a lot of people don't recognize
that we're in a global war right now, that Russia, China, Iran,
North Korea, all the Islamic extremist movements and the drug
cartels in South America are all working together. And Russia
and Iran have been supporting each other since for years now.
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And I'll tell you you hear a lot about these
drones that are attacking American bases. They are attacking our allies.
These are Iranian design thrones that the Russians have been
using for years in Ukraine. They've shot fifty seven thousand
of these drones into Ukraine and the Ukrainians, you know,
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and they've taken that that battle testing and they've improved
to drones that the Uranians are making. So the Iranians
of the Russians are working together and these drones at
this point have killed you know, half a dozen US
servicemen and that number is probably not going to stay
that low. So Russia is sending weapons and expertise into
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Iran to kill US servicemen.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
How does Russia have any supply left? I mean, as
I was following and have been following the conflict with Ukraine,
it seemed as though they were running low of conventional
weaponry and we're having to resort to using these drones
against the Ukrainians. Where's their stockpile? How are they coming
up with them?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Well, I'll tell you there's no resort, man. These are
really good weapons. They cost about fifty thousand dollars and
so you know, and that's what they're using. And so
we're using a four million dollar Patriot interceptor to take
down these fifty thousand dollars Russian Iranian drones and that
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math doesn't work for very long. So they're cheap to make,
they're deadly effective, and they're getting more and more precise.
They're going to being able to go longer distances because
the Russians again are battle testing these things in Ukraine
and then sending that information back to the Iranians and
they're actually sending the actual drones too. There's a number
of instances, photographic instances evidence of Russian language markings on
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these Iranian drones that are using being used to kill
US servicemen.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
What kind of progress have Ukrainians made in defending against
these things? And is that technology coming from them or
is it coming from us?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, man, I got to tell you, you know. So,
there's four countries leading the world drone warfare. It's Russia, China,
Iran and Ukraine. And our stuff does not work in Ukraine.
I've been to the front seventy times or so. We
work a lot with drone pilots in Ukraine. I got
a lot of friends in the drone world in Ukraine.
And here's an example. This is not the larger drones
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that are killing our people right now in Iran, but
these are the smaller drones, kami Kazi drones five hundred dollars.
Two of these Kamakazi drones will blow up a Russian
ten ninety tank five hundred dollars each. Now America has
a Kamikazi drone as well. The cheapest one we have
is the switch played three hundred. The switch played three
hundred fifty eight thousand dollars. Let me repeat that back
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to you. The Ukrainians are making five hundred dollars drones,
two of which will blow up a tank. Our cheapest
Kamikazi drone is fifty eight thousand dollars and it actually
doesn't work as well as the as the cheaper stuff
that the Ukrainians are manufacturing. The nature of warfare has
changed and America has been left behind.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Stephen Moore, founder of Ukraine Freedom Project. You mentioned, Stephen,
that our stuff isn't effective in Ukraine. I've seen, you know, obviously,
we're working on laser technology to try to short circuit
these things and literally burn them out of the sky.
I've also seen Raytheon's project, which is a reusable missile
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that can actually be launched and then caught and reused
again that flies by these things in mass and takes
them out of the sky by burning up their circuitry.
What kind of technology has been tried and failed over
there that we've put.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Out, Well, it's so again. I mentioned switch Play three
hundred two, and there's you know, Witches was underpowered and
much more expensive than the Ukrainian stuff. There's a company
called Skydio. If folks want to look at the Wall
Street Journal, there's an extensive documation on documentation on Skydio's
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shortcoming in Ukraine. And and here's the fundamental problem is
that our stuff is super expensive, and the drones that
the Russians and the Iranians make, the ones that are
killing servicemen in the Middle East right now, are cheap.
Fifty thousand dollars for one of these drones is actually
probably less, and they're very effective. So we can't make
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that kind of level of stuff, that is that is
inexpensive to take out their inexpensive stuff. And so the
math doesn't work on that for very long. You know,
we've got we spend a trillion dollars in the US
Department of War right now. And you know, if we
had to, the Russians made four million roans last year,
and the Ukrainians made a similar amount, and so four
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million times five hundred dollars is a reasonable amount of money.
And four million times you know, fifty eight thousand dollars
is like, you know, a third of the budget of
the US Department of War. So our stuff is a
too expensive, and then it's not really the drown hardware.
That's the hard part. It's the software associated because because
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there is a daily fight between the Russians and the
Ukrainians to jam the other other team's drones, and you know,
and it changes, you know, weekly, what we're doing. So
if you make a bunch of drones right now in
the United States and you you know, ship into a
warehouse in Uma, Arizona and wait for the big war
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to breakout, those things are going to be obsolete by
the time you use them, because the rest of the
world's technology is moving faster than ours is.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You talked about the coalition between Russia and Iran, which
we've known has existed for many, many years, probably since
nineteen seventy nine in reality, Yeah, yeah, I'm curious. Is
this on the radar of anybody in Congress? Is anyone
sitting down in the State Department. I have high regard
for Marco Rubio, He's a friend of our.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Greg.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Is anybody talking with the Russians and saying, look, we
can do this the easy way or the hard way,
stop providing material aid to Iran?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
You know my sense of things. You know, you listen
to what Steve Wicoff had to say and and you know,
the Russian said, oh, no, we're not providing that stuff,
and Wickoff says, well, we got to take him at
their word, you know. And Putin is a liar man.
Putin has broken forty five peace agreements or international treaties
with dozens of countries around the world, including the United
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States of America. So you can't take Putin at his word.
So so my concern is that there's no one doing
the necessary due diligence here on understanding that you know,
Putin is a KGB agent from way back, and he's
trained to lie, he's trained to be deceptive, he's trained
to be manipulative, and so you can't take him at
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his word. So that's that's my concern.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Steven, thanks for the time this morning. I appreciate the
update on things and best of success with the Ukraine
Freedom Project.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Thank you, sir. Great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Thank you, Steven Moore this morning with us. I thought
it would be fun to get a different perspective on
what's going on in there Russia. I mean, how hard
can it be? You just dump one of the drones
that has the Russian you know, terminology wording their stamps
all over it, and you dump it on Putin's desk
and say, here you go. I want to tell me
you're not helping her on now. I mean, it's not
hard