June 29, 2026 • 16 mins
TMS resident historian Dr. Ed Moore joins Preston to discuss little regarded U.S. Presidents.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
All right, here we go.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Thankfully, We're gonna talk about other things for a while.
It's like I was sitting here in venting to doctor
Ed Moore, It's like, we need this, we need a break,
we need to push away, push away. It's it's like
push away from the roaring waters and just get to.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The calmness of the bay. And that's where we are
right now. We're in the calmness of the bay.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I calm.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yes, yes, I know that your wife might disagree right now,
well you better bring it today we are It's time
for a little more history. Doctor Ed Moore joins us,
our resident historian, and the the the volume of information
on President Andrew Jackson was so much we needed to
(01:02):
devote a second segment to it.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
That and my fascination with insane people that are president
of the United States, I.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Mean, is that how you would describe him?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Why different? I would say, you know, it's probably half
a dozen.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Was he crafty crazy?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
No, it was just natural. I don't think it was calculated.
I think it was just his personality and who he was.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Would we call him crazy today or would we call
him eccentric?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
We would call him trumpy? Okay, okay, fair, Just.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
There's certain people that become president. You wonder how they
rose to that level, and you know, based on their
personalities and such, but they did, and they did things
differently and change I mean a lot. They're change agents basically,
but because nobody knows how to deal with them.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
For those that missed our last segment set up his presidency.
Who preceded him.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
John Quincy Adams, he much liked Trump, although it was
his first election running for president, would claim that his
presidency was stolen from the election of eighteen twenty four
went to the House of Representatives four states that he
won the popular vote. Jackson won the popular vote in
(02:23):
three elections, three elections in a row. He won the
popular vote, but in the eighteen to twenty four election,
nobody got the electoral college. And then what does Jackson do.
He comes out against the electoral college. You think it's
a scam. I don't like it. He liked it the
next two times, just fine, but he didn't like it
that first and went to the House in four different
(02:44):
states flipped that they were strongly for Jackson, Illinois being
one of them. And there are four of them that
you know, corrupt Jackson called it the corrupt Bargain. Henry
Clay became Secretary of State under John Quincy Adams, and
there's the same kind of stuff we're seeing now that
if somebody doesn't go along with you, where somebody does something,
(03:05):
it's everything's corrupt. They're horrible, they're bad people.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Except this time it was corrupt.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
In twenty two it was a corrupt boy. Oh yeah, sure,
that's what they said in eighteen twenty four.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Too, except this time it really was. But any way, god, yeah,
So it.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Was a different world and Adams who had Oddly enough,
Adams had backed Jackson back in the eighteen seventeen I
believe when Jackson was the major General and Monroe had
him invade into Florida and Spain controlled Florida at that
point in time. Still Monroe had him invade into Florida
(03:42):
and chase, chase around, chasing around, neamouthla and bow legs
and different mikisikis and what became the seminoles really without authorization,
and there was no formal authorization he told them after
the I think is Robert Scott was a lieutenant on
(04:03):
the Apolectical River that forty three people got ambushed and
died that were bringing supplies up. You have to think
of North Florida back then without the dam and Chattahoochee,
so that it was swampy. And then the rivers connected,
the Flint River, the Chattoosh, they all connected and then
(04:23):
ran down and became an apolectical river. Well, we had
forts on the Georgia side. All the way up to Albany,
there were different forts, and Nea Mouthlow was a Mikasuki
tribal leader that kept ambushing settlements. And so Monroe said
to Andrew Jackson, and this was after the War of
(04:45):
eighteen twelve, and he was a famous general, go get him.
He chased them all over southwest Georgia down into Jackson County,
all the way to the Swanee River. They chased people
all around General Gaines and named gains Will after him.
They got to the Swanee River, and you really couldn't
cross the Swanee River easily back.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
In those days.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
You had to go way north because the fording wasn't
real easy. So Jackson was in the middle of all
this kind of surreptitiously doing what Monroe wanted to do
without formal authorization, kind of tell us a little bit
about his character.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Not only are we looking at the presidency of Andrew Jackson,
but we're getting a Florida history lesson as well. Here
with Doctor Ed Moore on The Morning Show with Preston Scott.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Sting Show with Preston Scott. You're mockingee, aren't you.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Oh no, no, no, no, no no no. I used
Radio one hundred point seven wn UFLA.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
With the Morning Show band and Jose Can you see.
I'm Preston Scott and this is doctor Ed Moore. We're
talking about President Andrew Jackson. This series we're doing is
on the President said a lot of people don't really
spend much time thinking about or knowing much about. Give
us a little thumbnail biographical sketch of this guy.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Well, he was Irish. Most people aren't aware of that.
His parents were actually immigrants from Ireland. Interesting County Antrim
which is up above Belfast, Okay, which is now not
part of Ireland but.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Is Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, they immigrated here and settled in the Carolinas. Andrew
Jackson was actually born who knows where The borders had
really not been set between North and South Carolina. He
thinks he was maybe born in his uncle's cabin in
South Carolina, but both states claim them.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Okay, he's just kind of a thing.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
He was just way out in the wilderness is where
he was born. His parents came over. He had two brothers.
Interesting little factoid about Andrew Jackson and his brother Robert,
who died ended up. I think getting tuberculosis in a
prisoner a British prisoner of war camp. As teenagers, they
volunteered for the revolution. It shows, it gives a little
(07:21):
bit of mindset of Andrew Jackson. Yeah, I'm fourteen. What
am I gonna do? I know I'll go fight the
British at fourteen.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, and he had a scar on his face again,
a little bit into his mindset. A British officer wanted him,
made him get down and polish his boots. And Andrew
Jackson refused, and he pulled his sword and whacked him
on the put a deep scar on his arm and
a scar across his face at fourteen, fifteen years of age,
(07:52):
strong mindset, strong will. Reminds me a little bit of
myself when I was a teenager. You know, they just
you can't tell me what to do.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Is that why you got the bushy hair and the
beard to cover the scars.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Cover the scars. Yeah, but just just a fascinating background
for someone to rise up, and it shows you the value.
I get so frustrated with people knocking our country. It
remains the land of opportunity, and it was the land
of opportunity and people could come out of the backwoods
of the Carolinas and rise to where he did with
(08:27):
no family ties, no big connections.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
No nobility, no heritage, arg.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Arguing actually against the establishment and the financiers of its time,
to end up creating because of him, two political parties
that remained today. We had one Republican party that they
all were part of and fought over, and we ended
up with Democratic Republicans, which is what Andrew Jackson was,
and then the National Republicans, which were the Whigs that
(08:56):
was Henry Clay, Daniel Webster and others. And Andrew Jackson
just battled against them all. He was a battler, so
many fascinating things about him. The historians say he was
probably in one hundred and three duels in his life.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Excuse me, yeah, and I've raised him, so he was
one hundred and three and oh yes, but carried around
bullets within for a good part of his life.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
When he was younger, he got into a duel over
a horse. There's supposed to be a horse race. I mean,
it's a long story. But and then insulting publicly the
people that backed out of the horse race, and they
didn't live up to their obligations, and then they insulted
him publicly. So his response was, well, I think we
should due and he the other guy shot first, put
(09:49):
a bullet into his chest, missed his heart by about
an inch or two. It was close enough that they
couldn't the surgeon's determined surgery back in the sure that
it wouldn't be a good idea to operate to try
to extract the bullet. So he carried that bullet his
entire life, created problems for he had trapnel it all
(10:11):
over in his body. He from different wounds and bullets.
One hundred and three duels, and he became president of
the United States.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
But it was any duels after becoming president that we
know of.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I don't know, are you insulting me? Now, let's do
a duel. I mean that's my head of where this
guy was. He didn't take rough from anybody, and so
do we remind you of the president now, although he
would never duel, but if you disagree, I'm coming after
you do. That's what Andrew Jackson did.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
How big of a role did that play in his governance?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
A tremendous rule. Okay, we're going to get to that. Yeah,
that's next.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Doctor edmore with me more history in the morning show
with Crestin Scott.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
On your phone with the iHeart radio app and on
hundreds of devices like Alexa, Google Home, Xbox, and Sonos.
So here we go in Ihearts Radio station.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
The final segment here Doctor had more a little more
history talking Andrew Jackson and his presidency.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Unique guy, extremely unique guy.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Ended up with a major battle over the Second National Bank.
He vetoed it. His argument he was a populist. His
argument was money shouldn't be controlled. It was like the
begin before the Federal Reserve. This we had a large
bank that controlled interest rates, where the money was going
investments and such, and he wanted to get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
He wanted the money to.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Be dispersed in the power to be dispersed out to
the states.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Was he a federalist? Know not?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Really he he was. I would classify him as a
modern language, as a populace that he just he When
he was I think his second inauguration, he opened up
the White House and said, come on in, we'll have
a party. And they had alcohol and all kinds of stuff.
And the party got so rowdy that Andrew Jackson had
(12:23):
to escape from through a window to get out because
they were tearing up everything and rioting and having a giant,
big party. That was kind of that was his people. Okay,
So he was against establishment, he was anti establishment, he
was anti big money. He was he was an uncommon commenter.
(12:44):
I would describe him as that. And he was the
first president to have an assassination attempt on him. We
were talking about this earlier. He was coming out of
a funeral that was being held in Congress for a member,
and this fellow walked up, pulled a flint luck pistol,
and misfired pulled another flint luck pistol, and misfired. Jackson
(13:06):
was sixty seven years old at the time, which was
pretty old back then, walking with a cane, and Jackson
pulled up his cane and chased the guy down and
started beating him and they had to pull they go,
they had to pull him off of the guy.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Some of us old guys pull out a P three
sixty five sig and go from there.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
But you know, his cane, what he had just started
wailing on him with his cane.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
You know. Interestingly, the problem when they prosecuted that guy,
the lead prosecutor was Francis Scott Key who wrote The
Star Stole Banger. And the guy that pulled Jackson off
of this guy on the ground was Davy Crockett. I mean,
you know, this is cool stuff. This stuff he gets
me excited because I'm kind of weird. But you can
(13:50):
imagine that I got Davy Crockett pulling a guy off.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
That those two guys were different.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
The President of the United States is beaten with a cane.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
That's nuts. Tell me, we got just a couple of
minutes left. What is most notable about his presidency that
you think is worth noting.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I think it was the beginning of reshaping the presidency.
Prior to him, there was a deference to Congress. Congress
they were big for their bridges, and the senators and
certain House members they were kind of running the country.
And that's what he rebelled against I mean people like
Daniel Webster and Henry Clay and these guys. He beat
(14:29):
Clay actually in the eighteen thirty two election, beat him
like a drum. But those guys did not want to
let go of control. And then sitting over on the
side was my distant relative, John C. Calhoun, who was
actually vice president during that time frame and got vice
president when Quincy Adams, I would say, stole the election
(14:51):
his people. Calhoun was a vice president. He didn't get
along with any of them. He blamed He blamed Calhoun
for perhaps killing or the assassination attempt people. He blamed
a guy from Mississippi, senator from Mississippi being part of it.
He was blaming everybody.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
They didn't have the CIA to blame it.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
That they don't have anybody to blame you, So it
was all Internaleah. But it shows you the rough and
tumble of politics that we see now is not new.
It's been there. And that he created the executive office
basically the strength of the executive office, daring Congress to
override him, daring Congress to say no on the things
(15:32):
he wanted to get done, and he.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Just did them.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
And it's set a model for other presidents to try
and follow, and we've been kind of on a bumpy
road ever since.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Interesting as always, Thank you great to be here, doctor
Ed Moore. Not enough time, No, that's the way it happens.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Nope, you never do. I don't know why you even
bother with those things. Back next month with more with
doctor Ed Moore here on The Morning Show with the
Preston Scott
All right, here we go.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Thankfully, We're gonna talk about other things for a while.
It's like I was sitting here in venting to doctor
Ed Moore, It's like, we need this, we need a break,
we need to push away, push away. It's it's like
push away from the roaring waters and just get to.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The calmness of the bay. And that's where we are
right now. We're in the calmness of the bay.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I calm.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yes, yes, I know that your wife might disagree right now,
well you better bring it today we are It's time
for a little more history. Doctor Ed Moore joins us,
our resident historian, and the the the volume of information
on President Andrew Jackson was so much we needed to
(01:02):
devote a second segment to it.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
That and my fascination with insane people that are president
of the United States, I.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Mean, is that how you would describe him?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Why different? I would say, you know, it's probably half
a dozen.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Was he crafty crazy?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
No, it was just natural. I don't think it was calculated.
I think it was just his personality and who he was.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Would we call him crazy today or would we call
him eccentric?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
We would call him trumpy? Okay, okay, fair, Just.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
There's certain people that become president. You wonder how they
rose to that level, and you know, based on their
personalities and such, but they did, and they did things
differently and change I mean a lot. They're change agents basically,
but because nobody knows how to deal with them.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
For those that missed our last segment set up his presidency.
Who preceded him.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
John Quincy Adams, he much liked Trump, although it was
his first election running for president, would claim that his
presidency was stolen from the election of eighteen twenty four
went to the House of Representatives four states that he
won the popular vote. Jackson won the popular vote in
(02:23):
three elections, three elections in a row. He won the
popular vote, but in the eighteen to twenty four election,
nobody got the electoral college. And then what does Jackson do.
He comes out against the electoral college. You think it's
a scam. I don't like it. He liked it the
next two times, just fine, but he didn't like it
that first and went to the House in four different
(02:44):
states flipped that they were strongly for Jackson, Illinois being
one of them. And there are four of them that
you know, corrupt Jackson called it the corrupt Bargain. Henry
Clay became Secretary of State under John Quincy Adams, and
there's the same kind of stuff we're seeing now that
if somebody doesn't go along with you, where somebody does something,
(03:05):
it's everything's corrupt. They're horrible, they're bad people.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Except this time it was corrupt.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
In twenty two it was a corrupt boy. Oh yeah, sure,
that's what they said in eighteen twenty four.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Too, except this time it really was. But any way, god, yeah,
So it.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Was a different world and Adams who had Oddly enough,
Adams had backed Jackson back in the eighteen seventeen I
believe when Jackson was the major General and Monroe had
him invade into Florida and Spain controlled Florida at that
point in time. Still Monroe had him invade into Florida
(03:42):
and chase, chase around, chasing around, neamouthla and bow legs
and different mikisikis and what became the seminoles really without authorization,
and there was no formal authorization he told them after
the I think is Robert Scott was a lieutenant on
(04:03):
the Apolectical River that forty three people got ambushed and
died that were bringing supplies up. You have to think
of North Florida back then without the dam and Chattahoochee,
so that it was swampy. And then the rivers connected,
the Flint River, the Chattoosh, they all connected and then
(04:23):
ran down and became an apolectical river. Well, we had
forts on the Georgia side. All the way up to Albany,
there were different forts, and Nea Mouthlow was a Mikasuki
tribal leader that kept ambushing settlements. And so Monroe said
to Andrew Jackson, and this was after the War of
(04:45):
eighteen twelve, and he was a famous general, go get him.
He chased them all over southwest Georgia down into Jackson County,
all the way to the Swanee River. They chased people
all around General Gaines and named gains Will after him.
They got to the Swanee River, and you really couldn't
cross the Swanee River easily back.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
In those days.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
You had to go way north because the fording wasn't
real easy. So Jackson was in the middle of all
this kind of surreptitiously doing what Monroe wanted to do
without formal authorization, kind of tell us a little bit
about his character.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Not only are we looking at the presidency of Andrew Jackson,
but we're getting a Florida history lesson as well. Here
with Doctor Ed Moore on The Morning Show with Preston Scott.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Sting Show with Preston Scott. You're mockingee, aren't you.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Oh no, no, no, no, no no no. I used
Radio one hundred point seven wn UFLA.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
With the Morning Show band and Jose Can you see.
I'm Preston Scott and this is doctor Ed Moore. We're
talking about President Andrew Jackson. This series we're doing is
on the President said a lot of people don't really
spend much time thinking about or knowing much about. Give
us a little thumbnail biographical sketch of this guy.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Well, he was Irish. Most people aren't aware of that.
His parents were actually immigrants from Ireland. Interesting County Antrim
which is up above Belfast, Okay, which is now not
part of Ireland but.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Is Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, they immigrated here and settled in the Carolinas. Andrew
Jackson was actually born who knows where The borders had
really not been set between North and South Carolina. He
thinks he was maybe born in his uncle's cabin in
South Carolina, but both states claim them.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Okay, he's just kind of a thing.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
He was just way out in the wilderness is where
he was born. His parents came over. He had two brothers.
Interesting little factoid about Andrew Jackson and his brother Robert,
who died ended up. I think getting tuberculosis in a
prisoner a British prisoner of war camp. As teenagers, they
volunteered for the revolution. It shows, it gives a little
(07:21):
bit of mindset of Andrew Jackson. Yeah, I'm fourteen. What
am I gonna do? I know I'll go fight the
British at fourteen.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, and he had a scar on his face again,
a little bit into his mindset. A British officer wanted him,
made him get down and polish his boots. And Andrew
Jackson refused, and he pulled his sword and whacked him
on the put a deep scar on his arm and
a scar across his face at fourteen, fifteen years of age,
(07:52):
strong mindset, strong will. Reminds me a little bit of
myself when I was a teenager. You know, they just
you can't tell me what to do.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Is that why you got the bushy hair and the
beard to cover the scars.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Cover the scars. Yeah, but just just a fascinating background
for someone to rise up, and it shows you the value.
I get so frustrated with people knocking our country. It
remains the land of opportunity, and it was the land
of opportunity and people could come out of the backwoods
of the Carolinas and rise to where he did with
(08:27):
no family ties, no big connections.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
No nobility, no heritage, arg.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Arguing actually against the establishment and the financiers of its time,
to end up creating because of him, two political parties
that remained today. We had one Republican party that they
all were part of and fought over, and we ended
up with Democratic Republicans, which is what Andrew Jackson was,
and then the National Republicans, which were the Whigs that
(08:56):
was Henry Clay, Daniel Webster and others. And Andrew Jackson
just battled against them all. He was a battler, so
many fascinating things about him. The historians say he was
probably in one hundred and three duels in his life.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Excuse me, yeah, and I've raised him, so he was
one hundred and three and oh yes, but carried around
bullets within for a good part of his life.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
When he was younger, he got into a duel over
a horse. There's supposed to be a horse race. I mean,
it's a long story. But and then insulting publicly the
people that backed out of the horse race, and they
didn't live up to their obligations, and then they insulted
him publicly. So his response was, well, I think we
should due and he the other guy shot first, put
(09:49):
a bullet into his chest, missed his heart by about
an inch or two. It was close enough that they
couldn't the surgeon's determined surgery back in the sure that
it wouldn't be a good idea to operate to try
to extract the bullet. So he carried that bullet his
entire life, created problems for he had trapnel it all
(10:11):
over in his body. He from different wounds and bullets.
One hundred and three duels, and he became president of
the United States.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
But it was any duels after becoming president that we
know of.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I don't know, are you insulting me? Now, let's do
a duel. I mean that's my head of where this
guy was. He didn't take rough from anybody, and so
do we remind you of the president now, although he
would never duel, but if you disagree, I'm coming after
you do. That's what Andrew Jackson did.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
How big of a role did that play in his governance?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
A tremendous rule. Okay, we're going to get to that. Yeah,
that's next.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Doctor edmore with me more history in the morning show
with Crestin Scott.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
On your phone with the iHeart radio app and on
hundreds of devices like Alexa, Google Home, Xbox, and Sonos.
So here we go in Ihearts Radio station.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
The final segment here Doctor had more a little more
history talking Andrew Jackson and his presidency.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Unique guy, extremely unique guy.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Ended up with a major battle over the Second National Bank.
He vetoed it. His argument he was a populist. His
argument was money shouldn't be controlled. It was like the
begin before the Federal Reserve. This we had a large
bank that controlled interest rates, where the money was going
investments and such, and he wanted to get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
He wanted the money to.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Be dispersed in the power to be dispersed out to
the states.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Was he a federalist? Know not?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Really he he was. I would classify him as a
modern language, as a populace that he just he When
he was I think his second inauguration, he opened up
the White House and said, come on in, we'll have
a party. And they had alcohol and all kinds of stuff.
And the party got so rowdy that Andrew Jackson had
(12:23):
to escape from through a window to get out because
they were tearing up everything and rioting and having a giant,
big party. That was kind of that was his people. Okay,
So he was against establishment, he was anti establishment, he
was anti big money. He was he was an uncommon commenter.
(12:44):
I would describe him as that. And he was the
first president to have an assassination attempt on him. We
were talking about this earlier. He was coming out of
a funeral that was being held in Congress for a member,
and this fellow walked up, pulled a flint luck pistol,
and misfired pulled another flint luck pistol, and misfired. Jackson
(13:06):
was sixty seven years old at the time, which was
pretty old back then, walking with a cane, and Jackson
pulled up his cane and chased the guy down and
started beating him and they had to pull they go,
they had to pull him off of the guy.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Some of us old guys pull out a P three
sixty five sig and go from there.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
But you know, his cane, what he had just started
wailing on him with his cane.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
You know. Interestingly, the problem when they prosecuted that guy,
the lead prosecutor was Francis Scott Key who wrote The
Star Stole Banger. And the guy that pulled Jackson off
of this guy on the ground was Davy Crockett. I mean,
you know, this is cool stuff. This stuff he gets
me excited because I'm kind of weird. But you can
(13:50):
imagine that I got Davy Crockett pulling a guy off.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
That those two guys were different.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
The President of the United States is beaten with a cane.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
That's nuts. Tell me, we got just a couple of
minutes left. What is most notable about his presidency that
you think is worth noting.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I think it was the beginning of reshaping the presidency.
Prior to him, there was a deference to Congress. Congress
they were big for their bridges, and the senators and
certain House members they were kind of running the country.
And that's what he rebelled against I mean people like
Daniel Webster and Henry Clay and these guys. He beat
(14:29):
Clay actually in the eighteen thirty two election, beat him
like a drum. But those guys did not want to
let go of control. And then sitting over on the
side was my distant relative, John C. Calhoun, who was
actually vice president during that time frame and got vice
president when Quincy Adams, I would say, stole the election
(14:51):
his people. Calhoun was a vice president. He didn't get
along with any of them. He blamed He blamed Calhoun
for perhaps killing or the assassination attempt people. He blamed
a guy from Mississippi, senator from Mississippi being part of it.
He was blaming everybody.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
They didn't have the CIA to blame it.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
That they don't have anybody to blame you, So it
was all Internaleah. But it shows you the rough and
tumble of politics that we see now is not new.
It's been there. And that he created the executive office
basically the strength of the executive office, daring Congress to
override him, daring Congress to say no on the things
(15:32):
he wanted to get done, and he.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Just did them.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
And it's set a model for other presidents to try
and follow, and we've been kind of on a bumpy
road ever since.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Interesting as always, Thank you great to be here, doctor
Ed Moore. Not enough time, No, that's the way it happens.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Nope, you never do. I don't know why you even
bother with those things. Back next month with more with
doctor Ed Moore here on The Morning Show with the
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