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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Florida State athletics. He is Irishafelle. I were good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
How are you, good morning, Preston. How you doing I'm
doing well, all right.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
So we've got spring football underway, and how would you
set up what the big storyline is heading into this
season following what was a very difficult last season.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
You know, I think there's probably a couple of different
layers to it. You know, obviously, you know Mike Norbel.
The biggest story has been, you know, Gus Malzan retiring
at the end of last season and then Mike Norbel
reclaiming play calling duties. So there's a new offensive coordinator,
Tim Harris, who got promoted in the staff. But but
Mike Norvel is taking back over the offense. I think,
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you know, some people think that's a great idea. Some
people are over the whole Mike norvel era, So so
everybody has different opinions, but you know, that's the big story.
He's kind of taking back control of the offense after
one year as the CEO head coach, and then, you know,
then there was also a bunch of other changes to
the staff. So it's another year where you know, Florida
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State didn't make a change in the head coaching spot,
but they did change the front office. They have a
new general manager, a whole new scouting department to help with,
you know, bringing new players in, and then there's also
several changes on the coaching staff, so it's kind of
a they're trying to kind of get a little new
new car smell, but with the same head coach er.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Would it be fair to say, just big picture, that
we went to this era where coaches realized the program
was just too big for them to be the defensive
coordinator or the offensive coordinator and the head coach. But now,
because of the advent of this new general manager that's
taking care of recruiting, ani l and all of that stuff,
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that those coaches that specialize in offense or defense can
maybe feel free to go back to doing what their
real first love is.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I think that's absolutely the hope here. You know from
Michael Alford, official's athletic director and the administration is that
you know that Mike, Mike Norvel that this is more
suited for his skill his skill set. You know, when
when they made the change last year to to you know,
bringing Gus Malzan as the offensive coordinator, that was kind
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of the idea, as you just out outlined that there's
so much going on now in college sports with nil
and player negotiations and trying to you know, keep your
roster intact and not let players get posted by their
schools and and all of those things beyond what happens
on the football field, that by bringing in somebody like
Gus Malzan, that would help the offense and give Mike
Norvel time to kind of adapt that more of a
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big picture role. Number One, they did make the front
office changes, like you said, so that should give Norvell
more time to be more hands on on the field.
But I think the other thing is, and nobody's ever
said this on the record, but this is my personal belief.
I don't know that Mike Norvell was suited to be
a CEO. There are some CEO head coaches you know,
Bobby Bowden famously went from being the offensive mastermind and
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play caller to more of a CEO head coach. He
was one of the first ones probably really to make
that move. But I don't know that it suited Mike Norvel.
I just don't know that that's where his skill skill
set is. I think his what made him what he
was as a head coach that was very successful at Memphis,
was very successful Florida State in those first few years,
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was he's an offensive mind, Like that's what he wants
to do, That's where he feels like he can contribute.
So I think not only did you make the changes
to kind of give him better resources, but maybe you're
putting him in the position where he can have more
impact on the team.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
This team, if you look at it from the outside,
and I'm absolutely a layman who just loves the school
wants to see them do well, as I think most
people listening do, would you say that this is a
real season of change on the offensive side and in
special teams, not so much on defense.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, I would definitely say that the defense has a
lot more continuity. And why you'd say, well, you know,
the defense wasn't great last year. Either I think the argument,
you know, Mike Orvell would make and I think I
could see some merit to it. And I've spoken to
Tony White, the defensive coordinator about this. A good bit
is this is they are going into year two now
with this defense, and you know, I think that they
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feel like, other than the Florida game, which was an abomination,
that they did make some improvements last season over the
course of this season, and they got better as the
player started to really understand the defense. It was a
much different defense under Tony White than what they played
under Adam Fuller. Went from a lot of men's schemes
to more zones schemes. They changed the defensive fronts a lot.
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So as last season went on, they thought the players
started to kind of assimilate better to it. And now
you're going into year two of that. Plus you brought
in some pretty big impact players Chris Jones at linebacker
who had one hundred and thirty four tackles last season
at Southern Miss, a few guys in the defensive backfield
on the defensive line as well, so they feel like
the rosters better on the defensive side. Plus you're going
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into year two on that side of the ball, and
you pretty much have you bring back most of that
coaching staff in place, except one big addition was you
added a defensive ends coach who should help with the
pass rush. And then Ernie Simms was elevated to full
time linebackers coach after being in a support role last year.
So yeah, the defense has a lot more continuity, but
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they expected to be much improved.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
You were mentioning a couple of new players that FSU
was brought in. I thought really important was and again,
this is such a big change to recruit your own roster.
You got to figure out the guys you want to
keep and uh, I guess now spend money on. And
it seems as though Mike Norvel still has a little
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magic in his in his UH persona to keep key
players around because he was able to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, there was a point in time in early December
where it looked bleak because you know, we were hearing
word that a lot of the you know a lot
of the players on this team were going to go
into the transfer portal. There was concern that Deuce Robinson
would go to the NFL. Certainly the the Seer Twins
the defensive lineman. Kevin Wynn went in the transfer portal
the defensive lineman. There were questions about the running back,
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who's mn chromat like. There were a lot of rumors
about players leaving. Some of them went into the transfer portal,
but but FSU was able to retain a good bit
of them. Jabrill Rawls at cornerback with a big retention.
As I mentioned the Seer Twins. They also Ashland Barker
at safety. You know, you've got Deuce Robinson to come
back for his seat year. And as you said, some
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of its relationships, some of it is some of the
players have talked about wanting to kind of turn the
program back around. They were here, some of those guys
were here when they were thirteen wins in twenty twenty three,
and they really feel bad about what's happened the last
couple of years and want to be part of the
solution in twenty twenty six. And then also money is
a big factor as well. FSU is spending I've got
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a story actually coming up at war chant dot com
about FSU's investment in NIL and how committed they are there.
So it all goes into it. But yeah, the rosters
a lot better now than I thought it might be
as we went into December.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
One of the questions I know that you and Corey Clark,
one of your senior writers there at war chant dot com,
spend a lot of time talking about, and of course
my friend Jeff Cameron, was whether there was going to
be an open quarterback competition this spring or not. Whether
the transfer I think it's Ashton Daniels out out of
Auburn and Kevin Sperry, the returning quarterback who didn't play
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a lot, played some and showed promise, whether there was
going to actually be a contest in the spring. What
is your sense at this point is there a competition?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I think Kevin Sperry would have to just be incredible
this spring for it to be a real competition. As
you said, a lot of people want that. Kevin Sperry
did show some signs of some you know talent, you know,
during his first year of Florida State. But this is
w we talked about this late last season. One of
the frustrations I had, I think I know you had
as well, was that when the season wasn't going to
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go the way they hoped after the Alabama game, and
you start losing games. Why didn't they give Kevin Sperry
more of a chance, Because I think the problem now
is Ashton Daniels has not been a star in college football,
but he has started for over two years. He started
like twenty something games in college football. Kevin Sperry has
thrown like twenty something passes in college football. So from
that standpoint, you know, I think he's the underdog. It's
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kind of like in boxing, if you're gonna knock it,
if you're gonna beat Mike Tyson, you have to knock
him out like you're not gonna win on the decision.
And so Kevin Sperry have to have an incredible spring
and summer to beat him out. I don't think that's
going to happen. So I think Gaston Daniels is gonna
be the starter of barring something unexpected.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
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Speaker 1 (09:29):
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You'll get some intel there that you will not find
anywhere else. Do a great job over there, Ira, you
and your guys and the work you do. Let's talk
for a second about the decision to not play in
the NIT for FSU men's basketball. We were talking in
the break. I think we both walk away very impressed
with how Luke Laus adjusted to how the season started
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to where it ended. They were arguably maybe a top
twenty team at the end of the season, I think,
but yet not playing the NIT. What did you think
about that decision and letting it be up to the players.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
You know, it's one one of those things where it
was disappointing because I think everybody wanted to see that
team play again. You know, they just played so well
the last two months of the season after the really
rough start, and then you know, they went down to
the wire with Duke basically the last shot to win
it with the ball in their hands. You'd love that
to have the opportunity number one team in the country,
and so all of for all of those reasons, people
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wanted to see them keep playing. Plus, you know, I
think part of it is the way this athletic department
has gone the last couple of years. Other than you know,
soccer winning the national Championship. There just hasn't been a
lot of glory for this athletics department for FSU fans.
So the idea of going to the n i T
and maybe winning the n i T, which they might
have been one of the favorites if they had gone,
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you know, had people really excited. Then when when they
decided not to go, it brought up a lot of
you know, just bad feelings for the fan base. So
they got a lot of heat. Luke Roux talked about
that the other day that he was getting messages from
fans who are were mad at them and and and
he understood it. But his point was, I want to
give it to these players to decide, because they put
so much into the season, the way how hard they
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played over the last two months, and a lot of
the players just didn't feel like they had anything left
to give. They laid it all on the line in
that Duke game. They some of them had some injuries
things like that they were playing through and they just
felt like they gave it. They're all in that ACC
tournament and they were done. So he honored that, He
respected that they decided not to play. It's unfortunate from
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the standpoint that we did want to see them again,
but it could have a silver lining in that it
gives Luke in his staff a chance to get a
head start on the transfer portal, you know, where they're
gonna have to do some work because they do lose
sixteen ors from this team.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Do you think we'll let's just with that? Maybe influencing
my question here, Ira, Are we at a point though,
where you turn and you look at the guys or
the gals and you say, look, you're compensated to play.
Maybe not all of you the same, but we're going
to play. This is an opera tunity to put the
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profile of Florida State basketball on a national level on
national television where it wasn't getting a lot of publicity.
But we're playing well now and we're going to keep playing.
I mean, are we at that point now nationally where
we're gonna start seeing programs say I'm sorry, but you
will play well.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
That's an interesting question, Preston, because what were what would
happen if maybe two or three or four players the
week of the n I said, you know what, coach,
I pulled my hamstring. Oh man, I just I don't
think I can give it a go. I'm going to
I'm gonna have to shut it down because at the
end of the day, the players have been given so
much power now, and so it's the same thing we've
seen in these bowl games with these opt outs, including
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you know, there were players in that twenty twenty three
team that FSU had that got murdered in the in
the Orange Bowl. There were some players who went through
practices for two weeks of Bowl practice and Mike Norvel
fully expected them to play in the Orange Bowl, and
then when the team went down to Miami, they decided,
you know, but I don't think I'm gonna play in
that Bowl game. After all, the players have all the power. Now.
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What I think needs to happen is the Bowls and
the n I t any other tournaments that's a postseason
that's not the National for the National Championship, I think
they're going to have to step up and start, you know,
compensating players to play. And we hate hearing that, and
I understand the frustrations, but or play or coach. The
schools can put in their contracts, you know, so heavily
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incentivized to where they they can't pass up that money
to play in the postseason game. But otherwise I think
the players have all the power.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Is there any scenario where you see the contract looking
more like well until the season's over and you're obligated
and look, you know, and I know because we both
have talked to scouts on the professional level on a
lot of sports. If they start saying, you know, I
pulled a hammy and I'm not, that's going to impact
their draft grade if they are draft if they are
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a draft quality player, it definitely can.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
But I think that's a lot of times that's in
the margins. You know. NFL coaches and NFL executives are
a lot like college recruiters who overlook things in high
school players. If a kid's talented enough, I think they'll
find a way to look past it. But yeah, I
do think the way contracts are negotiated, all of those
things can be worked out. But man, there are so
many issues right now with player compensation and NIL and
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revenue sharing. Like they have to me that's going to
be a little bit more in the fine tuning, and
right now they're still kind of trying to overhaul the engine.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Our As always, I could visit with you for hours. Thanks,
so much for the time this morning, and as I mentioned,
we'll circle back summertime when FSU football kicks off in Earnest.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Thanks Presdin, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I appreciate it. Iris Chafelle with us managing editor at
Warchant dot com here on The Morning Show with Preston
Scott