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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good afternoon. I was just responding to the all the
gas lighting that you played from Tim Tim Waltz, and
you asked what a response would do that would be?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Was.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I was surprised that you couldn't come up with on
your own, since you say you're conservative.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Yeah, well, I mean I could. I could. I've combated
Tim Walls his politics for you know, the better part
of the last two months, since we knew he was
going to be a part of this campaign. Mike, I
guess uh. And again I probably should clarify this. I
like to talk in regards to those undecided independent voters
of those states that really are up for grabs, say Wisconsin,
(00:46):
where he was in, or Michigan or Pennsylvania. If you're
an independent, undecided voter in a state that is up
for grabs, what would be your response to that? Because again,
what are the The Republicans aren't telling you a whole lot,
except remember five years ago it was much better than
wasn't it. And these people are saying, hey, you know,
I know that we've kind of technically been in power,
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but this is a whole new thing, and somehow they're
getting away with it. They're getting away with it because
Biden isn't involved. They have kept Joe Biden as far
away from this campaign trail as they possibly could for
the most part, except for the one time this week
and that he finally popped up. He's not been involved
because they want. They know they've been an abject failure
in office as an administration for the last three and
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a half years, and the only way that they can
recover from that, more than anything, is just by saying, hey,
this is a whole new, fresh thing. Don't just forget
about the Biden stuff that we know that was bad.
Forget forget about it. Sorry, We're going to be better
and different this time. And they're getting away with it.
And that's what Tim Wallas is there to do.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, they are getting away with it. And you know,
because the media won't point out anything good about Trump
and they won't say anything bad about Camela. She got
almost like she out a coronation rather than an election
to be the candidate. But anyway he talked about he
(02:08):
said something about the Republicans want to be in your bedroom. Well,
he can't even figure out what boys and girls in
the in the bathroom, which bathroom they should use in
his state in Minnesota. Yeah, he's got He put tampons
in the boys' bathroom, and he talked about tax cuts
(02:30):
for They quoted Trump on tax cuts for the billionaire
as well. I got a tax cut under under Trump too.
It's called raising the standard deduction. And I'm not a billionaire.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And this is this is from the people that want
to put price controls on the food and brought us
eighteen percent inflation. I haven't gotten that eighteen percent of
my income back yet.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah. And that's the other thing, Mike, in regards to
what you're saying, Let's be honest, Let's go back to
twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen and think about now where, like,
which year was the middle class doing much better in?
It was pretty obviously twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. Now. I
know that there are other extinguating factors like COVID nineteen
and stuff that kind of put us behind the eight ball,
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But it's the mismanagement of our finances in our economy
by the current administration that has created this problem to
begin with. And they haven't had a lot of answers
for us. They're not even really talking about the economy
too much. They're talking about Hey, they're saying that we're
going to tax about a bunch of different stuff and
we don't want the millionaires to get tax cuts and
all this stuff. And it's just like, well, yeah, but
I mean, I might. We have been terrible for this
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whole economy has been terrible for the middle class. Not
just the last six months. It's been this way since
he got into office. It has literally been from start
to finish from one side when he was elected and
then he did all the energy stuff. He stopped the drilling,
he stopped the pipelines, he did all that stuff. It
has cost Americans thousands of dollars apiece to afford anything
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that they needed to that would have been much more
affordable under Trump. So I'm with you, Mike. I don't
know what the answer is overall to trying to get
an independent voters who don'tollow the news cycle to see
through some of this stuff. But again, Republicans have to
play the same game. I don't know what it takes,
but they're going to have to do a lot better
job than they're doing right now because the polls are
definitely starting to lean blue in a lot of these states.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
All Right, well, I guess you asked how to refute
as some of the things he said, and that would
be my answer. And I could go further on, but
you got the gist of it.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yeah, I'm with you, Mike, and I appreciate you calling
and thanks for listening to us today. Yeah, he's not wrong.
I just also am like you can't just think about
it from the way that you're seeing it, because that's
Tim Wallas isn't doing that speech for us. He's not
doing it for me. He's doing that speech try to
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win votes in an enthusiastic environment for people who may
not be decided yet on what they want to do
in November. That's the point. Phil's on the phone line
four two, five, five, eight to eleven ten. What's up, Phil?
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Yeah, I don't know where you're seeing these polls at,
but see at this point in time in twenty sixteen,
I think Hillary was up by nine yeah, nationwide, and
twenty twenty Joe Biden was up by nine as well.
And I don't know what Tamil is. It's kind of
a dead heat, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
It depends on the state. I'm looking not necessarily a
national polls. I'm looking at like the swing states state
by state, Well, the swing states?
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Are you aware that?
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Well, you know for sure that the.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Vote done by mail ahead of election day was won
by the Democrats big time right in twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Yes, sir, are you aware that voting.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Is way down for for voting by mail? Are the
requested ballots er way way down in one of those
swing states? I can't remember which one it is, but
it's down by eighty percent? All right, So I don't
think you're what you're saying is necessarily true. Yeah, the
(06:18):
Democrats are on a sugar high right now, and you
haven't seen a john You haven't seen a bump since
the DMC. Right, are you aware of that in Minnesota,
since Kim Walls was put on the presidential ticket, that
that could be kamalaes winn by less in Minnesota than before.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I mean, I guess it depends on me. Let you
pull up. I have a bunch of these. I mean,
the last several non partisan polling that I've seen. I mean,
she's up anywhere between five and eight points, So, I mean,
I don't know where that was a month ago, but
I mean she's still comfortably leading.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
You mean in Minnesota, minnesot Yeah, okay, well she's down though. Okay,
since Kim Walls was uh, I believe nominated.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I believe now now.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Then you're gonna you're gonna have Kamala. I mean that
interview that was gone with Kamala, that friendly interview, it
looked really odd because Kamala looked like she was almost
like compared to Tim Walls, she kind of looked like
a midget. Okay, she was so so short and diminutive.
(07:32):
You know, I don't understand, you know, how people can
actually look at this thing and I think that Kamala
is going to be able to face down Putin or
President Z from China or any of these other clowns
around the world. And you know, a week from the day,
Kamala's in the cage with a griffly bear. Yeah, well
(07:54):
she's going to have a problem.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yeah. She has never had to be in a situation
where she's about to be in one versus one like
she's about to be a week from now with Donald Trump,
and she's gonna have to answer a lot of those
questions because I'm sure Trump is going to be you know,
told hey, we just got to go after on a
lot of that stuff because Tim Walls being added to
this ticket is he's the main character, right, They needed
a main character type person to be there with her,
(08:18):
not just on the campaign tral, but also on the
ticket so people could believe that, hey, you know, this
is a viable ticket for the presidency. This is why
he's going more viral than Kamala is how much of
what she's saying is anybody sharing on social media? They're
not because there's not a whole lot to write home about.
And you're right, there's a reason Tim had to be
there to be a part of that interview, just to
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protect Kamala in some way. So I'm not one under
percent sure phil on what exactly the game plane is
going to be for the Democrats' post debate, because I'm
sure they want to see how it goes. But there's
no doubt that they're going to have to be it's
going to have to be a team, and it can't
just be Kamala living by herself at the top of
a ticket versus Trump.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
One other point, Okay, you know, we know we think
that Kamala has moderated her positions from what they were before,
but yeah, that's not true, because you're just hearing spokespeople
coming out from Kamala's campaign saying this stuff. She hasn't
changed her position one bit, okay, and that you know,
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these are all people from the campaign putting out this
information to try to credit confierce things. She hasn't changed
her her positions at all. And that's what you're going
to find in the in the debate on next Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
That's something to be paying attention to, Phil, that's for sure.
Appreciate you calling in as always, have a good one
you too. All right, we'll take more calls. If you
want to call in on this, you can for two five, five,
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Do you tip the bartender when you go to the
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Speaker 4 (10:11):
Turning the tide in some of these polls. Again, you
can't always trust the polls. As film mentioned, you know,
Hillary Clinton was leading Downald Trump by an awful lot
ahead of election day, then ended up winning the race.
But you know, it seems like it's going to come
down to the wire in a lot of different ways.
So I'm not here to make any predictions or anything.
I'm just you know, making an observation that he seems
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to have made a lot more of an impact than
I anticipated, based solely on the fact that he's able
to kind of reach out and seemed like a completely
fresh voice compared to anything that we knew was happening
within the Biden administration, and it seems to be making
a difference what we're taking your thoughts. Four oh two
five five eight eleven ten. Four h two five five
eight eleven ten. Jim is on the phone line. Hello, Jim,
(10:56):
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (10:59):
Yeah, and you were talking about inflation earlier, But everybody
that talks about inflation fails to realize that it was
obviously caused by Corona. You know, the whole supply chain
was shut down for about a year, and then when
the world opened back up again, it obviously, you know,
drew the prices up higher. That's just supply and demand,
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and it should be pretty obvious to most people. You know,
the inflation is worldwide, and we are doing better than
most countries in the world, and everybody that brings it
up also fails to mention the corporate profits that are
are an old time high, which are to be brought
up in the same sentence.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Right, Well, I will say this, the corporate profits in
the stock market and all that stuff. I've talked to
economists and they say that's not necessarily a direct result
of the health of an economy. It could be a
result of the health of certain sectors or businesses. I
think inflation also has something to do with the fact
that a bunch of us got multiple thousand dollars checks
(12:02):
from the government during COVID, Right, I mean, why is
that not brought up in the same sentence as well, Jim,
Because I think we're also having to pay for that
money in some way too.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
Right, And most of it went to the upper you
know class unfortunately. Yeah, I don't know why I got
any money. I didn't miss a day of work. I
guess it was to keep my mouth shed because you know,
that's where that eight trillion dollars that Trump racked up
came from. Mainly, you know, I guess it's going to
blame that on Corona. You have to take the good
with the bad, you know. That's that's why his debt
(12:37):
was higher than every other president or twenty five percent
of the the history of the country. His debt was higher,
and you know, I guess to me, it seems pretty
short sighted to just blame that all on the Democrats.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Well, but Donald Trump had nothing to do with the
stimulus checks, right, Oh?
Speaker 8 (12:58):
Really, that all happened on his Why I guess the
Corona bailout money I thought was pretty much all all
his and mismanagement is why there's so much fraud found
in most of the Corona money. A lot of the
loans were given to corporations that really didn't deserve him
(13:18):
or did not create any jobs, kind of like Donald
Trump did not create a one job.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
All right, It sounds like, Jim, we're talking about two
different things. And talking about us as individuals receiving thousand
dollars checks from the Biden administration. You seem to be
talking about something that you know is corporate within the
midst of the twenty twenty pandemic. I'm just going to
leave it there. I don't know how much more positivity.
I can get debating two different things with a person
at the same time. But I appreciate your calling, your opinion,
(13:43):
and thank you for listening to our radio show.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Let's go to Doug Doug's on our phone line of
four h two five five, eight eleven ten. What's up, Doug.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Hey, I just you know, I'm been listening to Jim
here and it sounds like he is a pretty uh
negative outlook on things, and I just I don't know, man,
I think we were better than that. And uh, I
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think that uh you know, uh Kamala who got thrown
into the candidacy. I'm not a Democrat, yeah, but I'll
tell you what, if I was a Democrat, I'd be
pretty upset. Nobody had a choice, That's correct, Yeah, no
(14:40):
one had a choice. She got thrown in there, right,
And I think people deserve better than that.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Well there. That is a point that I think has
been made by Donald Trump. It's been made by a
lot of people that are conservative leaning, like, hey, if
you vote for these Democrats, this is a third election
cycle in a row that they have messed with the
rules of their you know, nomination process to make sure
the person they want to be the nominee, gets to
be the nominee. They did it in sixteen with Hillary,
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they did it in twenty with Biden, making sure Bernie
Sanders didn't win either time, and now this time they
waited until after what could have been a fair primary
process and instead waited until it was too late to
pull the rug out from Biden and now say, well,
the only way we can do this is if the
delegates all vote for the Kamala Harrison. Of course they do.
They fall in line pretty quickly. It's an incredibly undemocratic
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way for a party that says that they're all about
democracy to make that decision. Unfortunately, Doug, based on everything
I'm seeing on social media, based on the things I'm
seeing and polling, it doesn't seem like many people care
about that. They just they don't because they a lot
of the independent votes are not people that are paying
that close of attention throughout the rest of the year.
They only pay attention when it feels like it's getting
(15:51):
closer to the election. You know what I'm saying, I do, and.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
I guess I'm glad. I'm I'm not. I don't belong
to that party. I just think it's it's more of
a fascist thing than you know, if you don't have
a choice.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Yeah, you're right anymore, you're right, And that's it's an
unfortunate reality that Democrats seem to be just totally okay
with I guess. So I appreciate the call, Doug, thanks
for listening to us. Lyle's on a phone line fourth two, five, five,
eight to eleven ten, Hey, Lyle, what's up?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Hey? He was talking about the stimulus checks and Trump
was the first one to send out the stimulus checks
because there was a big disagreement about him wanting to
sign the checks himself, have his signature on him.
Speaker 9 (16:42):
So, yeah, don't blame it all on the Democrats.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yeah, Trump, Right, No, And there's plenty of blame in
mismanagement that certainly went around. And I'm not trying to
exonerate anybody for any decisions that were made during COVID,
because I think we need to learn from what happened
for both political parties. I'm talking mostly Lyle about the second,
the third round of these stimulus checks that were still
being sent to people in twenty twenty one when Biden
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was the president. Instead of trying to get things opened
back up and get our economy moving again. When people
like Tien Walls and their state governments, we're telling people
don't do that. We're afraid we're all going to catch
the coronavirus and die. That's that's more of what my
plea is as far as inflation goes. That's a lot
of money that didn't necessarily need to be taken out
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of our government and sent to a bunch of people
who are just gonna sit on their bums and not
do anything because the government was paying them not to work.
It happened for a while now, and who's footing that bill,
the American public now, two three years later. That's what
I'm That's my bigger beef here Lyle. But I appreciate
the call. Yeah, yep see yah. If you want to
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call in, you can four h two five five eight
to eleven ten. Four roo two five five eight eleven ten.
I'm not here to say that the Republicans are all
right and the Democrats are all wrong. I don't I
don't subscribe to that either. I think both sides have
their faults, so I think both sides definitely have some
good ideas. I feel like as open minded people. You
can agree and disagree with different things. However, only one
political party wanted the economy to stay shut down for
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a lot longer than it needed to be. Only one
political party was selling people that they needed to get shots,
they wanted to get out of the house and do
anything that they wanted to out there. There was only
one political party that was sending second and third rounds
of stimulus checks. Two people telling them it's okay if
you don't feel good enough to go to work, we'll
just keep paying you not to work. We have different
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government programs that help save you even if the economy
continues to tank underneath that. And why do you think
that we've had such bad inflation and energy costs for
the last couple of years. Is there one specific party
to blame? It seems like it. Maybe I'm not seeing
something else. If there's something you need to educate me on,
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But first to the phones. Four two, five, five, eight
eleven ten. We're talking about Tim Walls mostly. It's what
the conversation started. At least him saying things in a
way that has Democratic voters excited, independent voters potentially leaning
Democrat in those swing states, and his ability to communicate
is kind of stealing the show. On the ticket. You're
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not seeing a whole lot of viral footage of someone
like say Kamala Harris talking like that. They all have
their roles to play. Let's just say that. Let's go
back to the phones. Mike's on the line at four two, five, five,
eight eleven ten. Mike, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (19:57):
Hey, Marie, thanks for having me on the show, particularly
enjoying it. Today's a good discussion. So with the Tim
Walls thing, I honestly, I think it's very refreshing to
hear it as an independent voter. I think the Republicans
need to figure out that freedom is not in the
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way that they're looking at things. Where as long as
you worship this God or you follow this religion. They're
wanting to bring all these things back into schools, which
they never were in schools for a reason. Everybody's wanting
to drag the country back to the fifties and that's
not going to happen. It's changed. Things move on. So
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my other point is I wanted to make a little
correction or make sure I have my facts right if
I remember correctly. I believe the last round of stimulus
checks was proposed by the Republicans when Trump was essentially
trying to buy votes at the end of the presidential election.
They were trying to get that representative from Georgia and
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then from upping the amount of the stimulus check. Yeah,
and so yes, I believe. So I just want to
make a little correction on what you said earlier. That
and I think we can all agree stimulus checks when
they're not needed is a bad thing. And everyone talking
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about how awful the economy is right now, I think
the numbers show the economy is pretty awesome as long as,
like myself and my family, you continued to live within
your means and you didn't outspend yourself.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Okay, all right, Mike. So many people Mike, we're going
too fast. There's too many things I want to touch
on here. Just slow down for a sec. Okay, all right,
all right. The first thing I did the stimulus checks.
The first one was under Trump. The second and third
rounds came after Biden was inaugurated. So I'm sure they
were trying to come up with something to, like you said,
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kind of get people motivated to vote Republican in that scenario,
because COVID was being weaponized against the Republicans so heavily
in the twenty twenty election. Yeah. I mean, I'm not
going to go out of my way to tell you
that wasn't happening, but I will say that the second
and third rounds came post inauguration. Those were under Biden.
Now I have looked it up. I found the exact number.
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The inflation was boosted two point six percent additionally onto
the economy based solely on the stimulus checks. Now, an
argument can be made that they were necessary for different people.
We can have that discussion, but we can't say that
they had no effect on the inflation that we're experiencing
even to this day. Now, the economy is kind of
awesome in what way Mike, because my energy costs is more,
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my food costs are more. Yeah, the stock market looks nice.
But again, I've talked to economists on this radio show,
and they have said that's not necessarily an accurate depiction
of what the economy looks like. Interest rates are insanely
high across the country. I know that's cyclical, but in
this moment right now that we're living in I haven't
had to pay more for my energy and my food
and for my interest rates and my taxes than I
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ever have before. So I understand where you're saying, like, hey,
when you budget properly, maybe you'll have enough to not
worry about this stuff. Not everybody is so lucky, Mike.
I don't know how you can tell me that the
economy is in great shape when we literally have been
living under inflation for the better part of the last
three years.
Speaker 9 (23:36):
Well, I don't know about you, Emory. Are you making
more money right now in your life than you ever have?
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Well, I think that's a bit of a relative discussion,
because I got a massive promotion in the last couple
of years, So I mean, yeah, I'm making more money
than I was before, but a lot of that has
to do with the fact that I worked my way
into a different job. You know, there are people that
are I think the better question is there are people
that have been at the same job for the last five, ten,
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fifteen years and aren't making any more money than they
were before, and are also having to pay more and
their energy, more for their food, more for their rents,
or their mortgages that are way higher than they were
a handful of years ago. I understand there's a lot
of different factors to that, Mike, but I can talk
to you specifically about several people that I know that
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I've been working the same job over that time span,
and they're in really bad shape compared to where they
were five years ago.
Speaker 9 (24:32):
Are these the same people that spend their stimmy checks
going to Europe?
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Mike, I'll be honest with you, I don't know exactly
how they spent their stimulus checks, but I do want
to let you know that these are people that I
would trust when they say, like, Hey, you know, I'm
having to spend a lot more money now than I
was before. I can't do thing X that you'd like
to do with me. I can't go on thing X
this time around. I can't go out three or four
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nights a week to hang out with with you. That's that.
These are people that are saying, you know, my energy
costs have doubled or tripled based on what they were
when I first bought this house. I don't know how
we can. Yeah, but Mike, that's fine, right, But that's
a complete You're you're ignoring the fact that the prices
are still up, right, Like the prices went up so
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and they may be they they may be, Mike, But
I wouldn't say that the economy is in great shape.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
Okay, those different economies better shape in the last probably
six months than it's been in the last three years.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I would agree with that, Mike, I one hundred percent
agree with that. I just want to know, like, how
how the economy in the last three years, how it
got to the spot that it was, especially with energy costs,
especially with some of the stuff that we've been talking
about in this conversation about food, gas prices. You want
to talk about the taxes and the the interest rates
and the cost of living for rent and mortgages. When
(25:57):
did it start popping up? It came in in the
last few years, right, And I understand that there's.
Speaker 9 (26:02):
Stuff I think had a lot.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
I don't disagree with that at all, and I think
foreign wars and stuff like that had something to do
with it, whether those were avoidable or not. I'm hearing you,
but I'm just saying that our government leadership over the
last three and a half years has done nothing to
help us with that nothing.
Speaker 9 (26:20):
I don't completely disagree with you, but I don't think
the previous administration did very much either. I certainly don't
think they made things any better. So I think some
of the fresh ideas that are being talked about that
are more middle of the road rather than the crazies
on the right and the left, I think certainly needs
(26:42):
some exploring. I think all of this is economics one
oh one, and I think that people need to realize
that they have to cut back on their spending. They
It's the same way with gas price, right, all these
people driving around in these huge vehicles. Yeah, talk about
how fuel is so expensive. Yeah, I don't drive an
(27:05):
F eight fifty truck. Yeah with fit and lucks package
now because I deserve it.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Oh, I got you, I got you, Mike. I'm hearing you,
And this was a good call. I appreciate your thoughts
on this. I think we're going to have to agree
to disagree on some of Like, Hey, should people have
to stop spending money in a way that they'd like
to because the government is creating a bigger issue. I
think we'll have to disagree with that, but I do
appreciate the thought. Today. Real quick, I need to get
to John. John's been waiting for a while. Let's get
to John real quick before we hit the brake. John,
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what's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (27:36):
Hey man? So I was a paramedic there. I'm a paramedic.
So I've seen the healthcare and the COVID how that
bill and everything. It's forced insurance companies, the Medicare and
Medicaid to pay the full amount to hospitals and these
pop up COVID testing centers anywhere between five hundred and
one thousand dollars they had to pay to these places
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and they were gearing need money. So there's a lot
more money that would be pumped in than people think
that just.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
From the checks.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
So that's that's where I'm out there. And Yeah, as
far as the previous caller he was, I don't think
he's a spot on at all because I mean like
people are keeping their cars longer. They're not buying new
cars because they can't afford it, They're keeping their older cars.
It may be a truck, whatever, but it's cheaper to
have a paid off car than it is to be
financing a car and paying gas.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Yeah, and there's no doubt about that. And this is
the same administration that also wants to plant in your mind, hey,
you might be needing to think about buying an electric
vehicle sometime in the future because they're going to force
all the car companies to start moving in that direction. Right,
That's something that they talked about as well, while making
things more expensive for gas, in food and energy and
all this stuff that we already have to deal with
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in the middle of trying to come out of a pandemic.
You're spot on, John, and I'm glad that you were
able to call and thanks for all the hard work
that you do behind the scenes in the healthcare industry.
Not a pretty job, and I'm glad that they're people
like you out there willing to take it on.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
Yep, thank you, Good day, you.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Too, uh, Fred Mark, Christopher Terry, everybody else calling in.
We will get to you the phone lines are active
now four h two, five, five, eight, eleven ten News
Radio eleven ten Kfab.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
And Maurice Sunger on News Radio eleven ten Kfab.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Fred, Welcome to the show today. What's on your mind?
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Hey?
Speaker 11 (29:24):
That guy then, I don't know about him. He's kind
of crazy, you know. He asked you about telling about
you making the most you've ever made in your life,
and yeah, I would have to say, for a majority
of us, yes we are. We've advanced ourselves in our career.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
But guess what, dude.
Speaker 11 (29:40):
We're also paying twice as much to live. That's what
we've ever paid before too. So just because we're making more,
that doesn't mean we're keeping more.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
No, And it's right. Yeah, I and I had a
guy interestingly had the exact same name as the caller
emailing me saying, oh, yeah, he's all over you. So
I don't know if he's also like texting and emailing
me while I'm on the air, But yeah, I mean
it's just like, first of all, kind of an audacious
question to be asking somebody here, are you making more
money than you've ever made before? But also at the
same time, look, I got a huge promotion in my job.
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I'm a bad person. Ask ask seventy five percent of
America that is still working similar jobs as they were
pre pandemic, and ask them how EASi or difficult life
is right now to try to just pay the bills.
I think you're going to get a big difference in
opinion based on what Mike was saying earlier.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, right, right, right.
Speaker 11 (30:30):
And I don't think all of us are out here
driving F eight to fifty.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
I don't like to week.
Speaker 11 (30:35):
I rarely see any of those.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Yeah. I see a few.
Speaker 11 (30:37):
Soup dup trucks every once in a while, But I
think for the most part, people are still buying the
F one fifty.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yeah they need for sure. Yeah, no, there's no doubt.
And I mean you want to talk about energy costs
and gas prices. Yeah, gas is down a little bit
now than it was, you know, a year ago this time,
but that doesn't make it a lot easier for people
when they have to pay for their power, their air conditioning,
their heat in the winter time.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
It did.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
It's way more expensive now than it's ever been before.
Fred appreciate the call.
Speaker 8 (31:05):
Yep, thanks Manday you too.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Mark's on a phone line of four h two five
to five, eight to eleven, ten, Mark, Welcome to the
show today. What's on your mind?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I am a very great show today.
Speaker 11 (31:14):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Just one question for you. Is the economy better off
better right now than it was when Trump left office?
Speaker 9 (31:21):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Left office? I mean that's a tough question, Mark, because
he left office literally in the middle of the pandemic. So,
I mean it's it's difficult. It's difficult to know what
would have happen one way or the other.
Speaker 11 (31:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
So, so if Trump is not being held accountable for COVID,
why are you holding Biden Harris accountable for the effect
on the economy because of COVID that they've had to
deal with.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, so I guess, Mike, Well, I think I can Mark.
And this is how And again, I'm not trying to
get overtly political about this, except the fact that I
know what I've experienced in my life and what my
friends and my family what they've experienced in the last
five years of their lives. There was one political party
that was really pushing for the shutdown of everything at
all times. They said it was that these people were
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saying it was a two week thing, and then it
was a month thing, and then it was a two
month thing, and then it was a seven month thing,
and next thing you know, they're still telling us that
we shouldn't be out and about they're costing a ton
of people in sectors, a ton of jobs, which really
also harmed the economy, while at the same time the
government's like, Okay, let's send you unemployed people as much
money as we can so you can live in this situation.
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And then once everything opened back up a couple of
years later, under the watch of a lot of these people,
you have a lot of people that are seeing increase
in prices and a lot of stuff, not just the
energy and the food, but a lot of increase in rent,
in mortgages, in gas prices, a lot of that stuff.
I know isn't in control of any one political party
or any one politician, but it is a mismanagement from
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people who basically said, do not stimulate the economy, will
stimulate your pocketbook without you having to leave your house.
That I think has a lot to do with where
we're at right now in a lot of these blue states.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I agree that COVID is responsible for this. Like we said,
Trump vivid stimulus check biding day, have a couple of
stimulus checks. But inflation is COVID related. Sure, so you
can't blame Biden and Harris because of COVID and not
blame Trump for the crappy economy that he left office with.
(33:21):
We can't have it both ways.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
And you know what, Mark, I can understand where you're
coming from on this. I just know if it would
have been the other way around, we would be talking
about the same thing the other way around. Like the Democrats,
if they would have been in office when it hit,
we'd be talking about how horribly they mismanaged it. The
Republicans would have won the election in November if that's
the case, and then we would be talking about how
the Republicans probably mismanaged it too. That's the butterfly effect.
(33:45):
That's hindsight. There's no way to know exactly what happened.
All I know is that what happened before Trump lost
in twenty twenty was a different type of confusion, which
was happening as we were trying to survive the pandemic.
And then there was an another type of hey, let's
just give a bunch of people stimulus checks to help
them survive this, you know situation that we have right
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now while also not allowing the economy to be fully open.
They were basically telling people it's totally okay for them
to not work, for them not to be a part of,
you know, a functioning open society. And that's where you
get a lot of the generational divide and people being like, hey,
first of all, you know, I don't want to have
to go to work because the people on the left
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have told me straight up that, you know, I don't
want to like they, I could get sick if I
go outside. I need to be wearing my mask. I
need to be getting my COVID shots. Then it had
another caller is working in the you know, industry of
the medical field, and he says there's a lot more
money that was getting pumped in there that people don't
even know about. Look, I'm not here to tell you
that I have all the answers. I'm just here to
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tell you that at some point you have to look
at Tim Wallas in Minnesota and some of the stuff
these people were doing in this situation that got us
to the point that we're in today. If we're going
to understand why the policies economically that the right has
makes way more sense than the policies of the left.
That doesn't mean that people are going to care about
that either, because people generally vote for what makes them
feel good. We'll keep talking about this plenty more phone
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calls lined up on the way on news radio eleven
to ten kfab
Good afternoon. I was just responding to the all the
gas lighting that you played from Tim Tim Waltz, and
you asked what a response would do that would be?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Was.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I was surprised that you couldn't come up with on
your own, since you say you're conservative.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Yeah, well, I mean I could. I could. I've combated
Tim Walls his politics for you know, the better part
of the last two months, since we knew he was
going to be a part of this campaign. Mike, I
guess uh. And again I probably should clarify this. I
like to talk in regards to those undecided independent voters
of those states that really are up for grabs, say Wisconsin,
(00:46):
where he was in, or Michigan or Pennsylvania. If you're
an independent, undecided voter in a state that is up
for grabs, what would be your response to that? Because again,
what are the The Republicans aren't telling you a whole lot,
except remember five years ago it was much better than
wasn't it. And these people are saying, hey, you know,
I know that we've kind of technically been in power,
(01:07):
but this is a whole new thing, and somehow they're
getting away with it. They're getting away with it because
Biden isn't involved. They have kept Joe Biden as far
away from this campaign trail as they possibly could for
the most part, except for the one time this week
and that he finally popped up. He's not been involved
because they want. They know they've been an abject failure
in office as an administration for the last three and
(01:28):
a half years, and the only way that they can
recover from that, more than anything, is just by saying, hey,
this is a whole new, fresh thing. Don't just forget
about the Biden stuff that we know that was bad.
Forget forget about it. Sorry, We're going to be better
and different this time. And they're getting away with it.
And that's what Tim Wallas is there to do.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, they are getting away with it. And you know,
because the media won't point out anything good about Trump
and they won't say anything bad about Camela. She got
almost like she out a coronation rather than an election
to be the candidate. But anyway he talked about he
(02:08):
said something about the Republicans want to be in your bedroom. Well,
he can't even figure out what boys and girls in
the in the bathroom, which bathroom they should use in
his state in Minnesota. Yeah, he's got He put tampons
in the boys' bathroom, and he talked about tax cuts
(02:30):
for They quoted Trump on tax cuts for the billionaire
as well. I got a tax cut under under Trump too.
It's called raising the standard deduction. And I'm not a billionaire.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And this is this is from the people that want
to put price controls on the food and brought us
eighteen percent inflation. I haven't gotten that eighteen percent of
my income back yet.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah. And that's the other thing, Mike, in regards to
what you're saying, Let's be honest, Let's go back to
twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen and think about now where, like,
which year was the middle class doing much better in?
It was pretty obviously twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. Now. I
know that there are other extinguating factors like COVID nineteen
and stuff that kind of put us behind the eight ball,
(03:12):
But it's the mismanagement of our finances in our economy
by the current administration that has created this problem to
begin with. And they haven't had a lot of answers
for us. They're not even really talking about the economy
too much. They're talking about Hey, they're saying that we're
going to tax about a bunch of different stuff and
we don't want the millionaires to get tax cuts and
all this stuff. And it's just like, well, yeah, but
I mean, I might. We have been terrible for this
(03:36):
whole economy has been terrible for the middle class. Not
just the last six months. It's been this way since
he got into office. It has literally been from start
to finish from one side when he was elected and
then he did all the energy stuff. He stopped the drilling,
he stopped the pipelines, he did all that stuff. It
has cost Americans thousands of dollars apiece to afford anything
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that they needed to that would have been much more
affordable under Trump. So I'm with you, Mike. I don't
know what the answer is overall to trying to get
an independent voters who don'tollow the news cycle to see
through some of this stuff. But again, Republicans have to
play the same game. I don't know what it takes,
but they're going to have to do a lot better
job than they're doing right now because the polls are
definitely starting to lean blue in a lot of these states.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
All Right, well, I guess you asked how to refute
as some of the things he said, and that would
be my answer. And I could go further on, but
you got the gist of it.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yeah, I'm with you, Mike, and I appreciate you calling
and thanks for listening to us today. Yeah, he's not wrong.
I just also am like you can't just think about
it from the way that you're seeing it, because that's
Tim Wallas isn't doing that speech for us. He's not
doing it for me. He's doing that speech try to
(04:59):
win votes in an enthusiastic environment for people who may
not be decided yet on what they want to do
in November. That's the point. Phil's on the phone line
four two, five, five, eight to eleven ten. What's up, Phil?
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Yeah, I don't know where you're seeing these polls at,
but see at this point in time in twenty sixteen,
I think Hillary was up by nine yeah, nationwide, and
twenty twenty Joe Biden was up by nine as well.
And I don't know what Tamil is. It's kind of
a dead heat, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
It depends on the state. I'm looking not necessarily a
national polls. I'm looking at like the swing states state
by state, Well, the swing states?
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Are you aware that?
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Well, you know for sure that the.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Vote done by mail ahead of election day was won
by the Democrats big time right in twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Yes, sir, are you aware that voting.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Is way down for for voting by mail? Are the
requested ballots er way way down in one of those
swing states? I can't remember which one it is, but
it's down by eighty percent? All right, So I don't
think you're what you're saying is necessarily true. Yeah, the
(06:18):
Democrats are on a sugar high right now, and you
haven't seen a john You haven't seen a bump since
the DMC. Right, are you aware of that in Minnesota,
since Kim Walls was put on the presidential ticket, that
that could be kamalaes winn by less in Minnesota than before.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I mean, I guess it depends on me. Let you
pull up. I have a bunch of these. I mean,
the last several non partisan polling that I've seen. I mean,
she's up anywhere between five and eight points, So, I mean,
I don't know where that was a month ago, but
I mean she's still comfortably leading.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
You mean in Minnesota, minnesot Yeah, okay, well she's down though. Okay,
since Kim Walls was uh, I believe nominated.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I believe now now.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Then you're gonna you're gonna have Kamala. I mean that
interview that was gone with Kamala, that friendly interview, it
looked really odd because Kamala looked like she was almost
like compared to Tim Walls, she kind of looked like
a midget. Okay, she was so so short and diminutive.
(07:32):
You know, I don't understand, you know, how people can
actually look at this thing and I think that Kamala
is going to be able to face down Putin or
President Z from China or any of these other clowns
around the world. And you know, a week from the day,
Kamala's in the cage with a griffly bear. Yeah, well
(07:54):
she's going to have a problem.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yeah. She has never had to be in a situation
where she's about to be in one versus one like
she's about to be a week from now with Donald Trump,
and she's gonna have to answer a lot of those
questions because I'm sure Trump is going to be you know,
told hey, we just got to go after on a
lot of that stuff because Tim Walls being added to
this ticket is he's the main character, right, They needed
a main character type person to be there with her,
(08:18):
not just on the campaign tral, but also on the
ticket so people could believe that, hey, you know, this
is a viable ticket for the presidency. This is why
he's going more viral than Kamala is how much of
what she's saying is anybody sharing on social media? They're
not because there's not a whole lot to write home about.
And you're right, there's a reason Tim had to be
there to be a part of that interview, just to
(08:39):
protect Kamala in some way. So I'm not one under
percent sure phil on what exactly the game plane is
going to be for the Democrats' post debate, because I'm
sure they want to see how it goes. But there's
no doubt that they're going to have to be it's
going to have to be a team, and it can't
just be Kamala living by herself at the top of
a ticket versus Trump.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
One other point, Okay, you know, we know we think
that Kamala has moderated her positions from what they were before,
but yeah, that's not true, because you're just hearing spokespeople
coming out from Kamala's campaign saying this stuff. She hasn't
changed her position one bit, okay, and that you know,
(09:23):
these are all people from the campaign putting out this
information to try to credit confierce things. She hasn't changed
her her positions at all. And that's what you're going
to find in the in the debate on next Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
That's something to be paying attention to, Phil, that's for sure.
Appreciate you calling in as always, have a good one
you too. All right, we'll take more calls. If you
want to call in on this, you can for two five, five,
eight eleven ten. We'll also talk about tipping, because I
want to get to that. Do you tip on carry out?
Do you tip the bartender when you go to the
bar and order your own drink? Yeah, we'll talk about
that and how different that might be. But you can
(10:00):
call us four h two five five, eight eleven ten
on news radio eleven ten.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Kfab Emery Sunger on news Radio eleven ten, Kfab.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Turning the tide in some of these polls. Again, you
can't always trust the polls. As film mentioned, you know,
Hillary Clinton was leading Downald Trump by an awful lot
ahead of election day, then ended up winning the race.
But you know, it seems like it's going to come
down to the wire in a lot of different ways.
So I'm not here to make any predictions or anything.
I'm just you know, making an observation that he seems
(10:34):
to have made a lot more of an impact than
I anticipated, based solely on the fact that he's able
to kind of reach out and seemed like a completely
fresh voice compared to anything that we knew was happening
within the Biden administration, and it seems to be making
a difference what we're taking your thoughts. Four oh two
five five eight eleven ten. Four h two five five
eight eleven ten. Jim is on the phone line. Hello, Jim,
(10:56):
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (10:59):
Yeah, and you were talking about inflation earlier, But everybody
that talks about inflation fails to realize that it was
obviously caused by Corona. You know, the whole supply chain
was shut down for about a year, and then when
the world opened back up again, it obviously, you know,
drew the prices up higher. That's just supply and demand,
(11:22):
and it should be pretty obvious to most people. You know,
the inflation is worldwide, and we are doing better than
most countries in the world, and everybody that brings it
up also fails to mention the corporate profits that are
are an old time high, which are to be brought
up in the same sentence.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Right, Well, I will say this, the corporate profits in
the stock market and all that stuff. I've talked to
economists and they say that's not necessarily a direct result
of the health of an economy. It could be a
result of the health of certain sectors or businesses. I
think inflation also has something to do with the fact
that a bunch of us got multiple thousand dollars checks
(12:02):
from the government during COVID, Right, I mean, why is
that not brought up in the same sentence as well, Jim,
Because I think we're also having to pay for that
money in some way too.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
Right, And most of it went to the upper you
know class unfortunately. Yeah, I don't know why I got
any money. I didn't miss a day of work. I
guess it was to keep my mouth shed because you know,
that's where that eight trillion dollars that Trump racked up
came from. Mainly, you know, I guess it's going to
blame that on Corona. You have to take the good
with the bad, you know. That's that's why his debt
(12:37):
was higher than every other president or twenty five percent
of the the history of the country. His debt was higher,
and you know, I guess to me, it seems pretty
short sighted to just blame that all on the Democrats.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Well, but Donald Trump had nothing to do with the
stimulus checks, right, Oh?
Speaker 8 (12:58):
Really, that all happened on his Why I guess the
Corona bailout money I thought was pretty much all all
his and mismanagement is why there's so much fraud found
in most of the Corona money. A lot of the
loans were given to corporations that really didn't deserve him
(13:18):
or did not create any jobs, kind of like Donald
Trump did not create a one job.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
All right, It sounds like, Jim, we're talking about two
different things. And talking about us as individuals receiving thousand
dollars checks from the Biden administration. You seem to be
talking about something that you know is corporate within the
midst of the twenty twenty pandemic. I'm just going to
leave it there. I don't know how much more positivity.
I can get debating two different things with a person
at the same time. But I appreciate your calling, your opinion,
(13:43):
and thank you for listening to our radio show.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Let's go to Doug Doug's on our phone line of
four h two five five, eight eleven ten. What's up, Doug.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Hey, I just you know, I'm been listening to Jim
here and it sounds like he is a pretty uh
negative outlook on things, and I just I don't know, man,
I think we were better than that. And uh, I
(14:16):
think that uh you know, uh Kamala who got thrown
into the candidacy. I'm not a Democrat, yeah, but I'll
tell you what, if I was a Democrat, I'd be
pretty upset. Nobody had a choice, That's correct, Yeah, no
(14:40):
one had a choice. She got thrown in there, right,
And I think people deserve better than that.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Well there. That is a point that I think has
been made by Donald Trump. It's been made by a
lot of people that are conservative leaning, like, hey, if
you vote for these Democrats, this is a third election
cycle in a row that they have messed with the
rules of their you know, nomination process to make sure
the person they want to be the nominee, gets to
be the nominee. They did it in sixteen with Hillary,
(15:06):
they did it in twenty with Biden, making sure Bernie
Sanders didn't win either time, and now this time they
waited until after what could have been a fair primary
process and instead waited until it was too late to
pull the rug out from Biden and now say, well,
the only way we can do this is if the
delegates all vote for the Kamala Harrison. Of course they do.
They fall in line pretty quickly. It's an incredibly undemocratic
(15:30):
way for a party that says that they're all about
democracy to make that decision. Unfortunately, Doug, based on everything
I'm seeing on social media, based on the things I'm
seeing and polling, it doesn't seem like many people care
about that. They just they don't because they a lot
of the independent votes are not people that are paying
that close of attention throughout the rest of the year.
They only pay attention when it feels like it's getting
(15:51):
closer to the election. You know what I'm saying, I do, and.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
I guess I'm glad. I'm I'm not. I don't belong
to that party. I just think it's it's more of
a fascist thing than you know, if you don't have
a choice.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Yeah, you're right anymore, you're right, And that's it's an
unfortunate reality that Democrats seem to be just totally okay
with I guess. So I appreciate the call, Doug, thanks
for listening to us. Lyle's on a phone line fourth two, five, five,
eight to eleven ten, Hey, Lyle, what's up?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Hey? He was talking about the stimulus checks and Trump
was the first one to send out the stimulus checks
because there was a big disagreement about him wanting to
sign the checks himself, have his signature on him.
Speaker 9 (16:42):
So, yeah, don't blame it all on the Democrats.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yeah, Trump, Right, No, And there's plenty of blame in
mismanagement that certainly went around. And I'm not trying to
exonerate anybody for any decisions that were made during COVID,
because I think we need to learn from what happened
for both political parties. I'm talking mostly Lyle about the second,
the third round of these stimulus checks that were still
being sent to people in twenty twenty one when Biden
(17:05):
was the president. Instead of trying to get things opened
back up and get our economy moving again. When people
like Tien Walls and their state governments, we're telling people
don't do that. We're afraid we're all going to catch
the coronavirus and die. That's that's more of what my
plea is as far as inflation goes. That's a lot
of money that didn't necessarily need to be taken out
(17:27):
of our government and sent to a bunch of people
who are just gonna sit on their bums and not
do anything because the government was paying them not to work.
It happened for a while now, and who's footing that bill,
the American public now, two three years later. That's what
I'm That's my bigger beef here Lyle. But I appreciate
the call. Yeah, yep see yah. If you want to
(17:47):
call in, you can four h two five five eight
to eleven ten. Four roo two five five eight eleven ten.
I'm not here to say that the Republicans are all
right and the Democrats are all wrong. I don't I
don't subscribe to that either. I think both sides have
their faults, so I think both sides definitely have some
good ideas. I feel like as open minded people. You
can agree and disagree with different things. However, only one
political party wanted the economy to stay shut down for
(18:09):
a lot longer than it needed to be. Only one
political party was selling people that they needed to get shots,
they wanted to get out of the house and do
anything that they wanted to out there. There was only
one political party that was sending second and third rounds
of stimulus checks. Two people telling them it's okay if
you don't feel good enough to go to work, we'll
just keep paying you not to work. We have different
(18:30):
government programs that help save you even if the economy
continues to tank underneath that. And why do you think
that we've had such bad inflation and energy costs for
the last couple of years. Is there one specific party
to blame? It seems like it. Maybe I'm not seeing
something else. If there's something you need to educate me on,
please do four two, five, five, eight, eleven ten news
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But first to the phones. Four two, five, five, eight
eleven ten. We're talking about Tim Walls mostly. It's what
the conversation started. At least him saying things in a
way that has Democratic voters excited, independent voters potentially leaning
Democrat in those swing states, and his ability to communicate
is kind of stealing the show. On the ticket. You're
(19:41):
not seeing a whole lot of viral footage of someone
like say Kamala Harris talking like that. They all have
their roles to play. Let's just say that. Let's go
back to the phones. Mike's on the line at four two, five, five,
eight eleven ten. Mike, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (19:57):
Hey, Marie, thanks for having me on the show, particularly
enjoying it. Today's a good discussion. So with the Tim
Walls thing, I honestly, I think it's very refreshing to
hear it as an independent voter. I think the Republicans
need to figure out that freedom is not in the
(20:21):
way that they're looking at things. Where as long as
you worship this God or you follow this religion. They're
wanting to bring all these things back into schools, which
they never were in schools for a reason. Everybody's wanting
to drag the country back to the fifties and that's
not going to happen. It's changed. Things move on. So
(20:45):
my other point is I wanted to make a little
correction or make sure I have my facts right if
I remember correctly. I believe the last round of stimulus
checks was proposed by the Republicans when Trump was essentially
trying to buy votes at the end of the presidential election.
They were trying to get that representative from Georgia and
(21:08):
then from upping the amount of the stimulus check. Yeah,
and so yes, I believe. So I just want to
make a little correction on what you said earlier. That
and I think we can all agree stimulus checks when
they're not needed is a bad thing. And everyone talking
(21:30):
about how awful the economy is right now, I think
the numbers show the economy is pretty awesome as long as,
like myself and my family, you continued to live within
your means and you didn't outspend yourself.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Okay, all right, Mike. So many people Mike, we're going
too fast. There's too many things I want to touch
on here. Just slow down for a sec. Okay, all right,
all right. The first thing I did the stimulus checks.
The first one was under Trump. The second and third
rounds came after Biden was inaugurated. So I'm sure they
were trying to come up with something to, like you said,
(22:08):
kind of get people motivated to vote Republican in that scenario,
because COVID was being weaponized against the Republicans so heavily
in the twenty twenty election. Yeah. I mean, I'm not
going to go out of my way to tell you
that wasn't happening, but I will say that the second
and third rounds came post inauguration. Those were under Biden.
Now I have looked it up. I found the exact number.
(22:30):
The inflation was boosted two point six percent additionally onto
the economy based solely on the stimulus checks. Now, an
argument can be made that they were necessary for different people.
We can have that discussion, but we can't say that
they had no effect on the inflation that we're experiencing
even to this day. Now, the economy is kind of
awesome in what way Mike, because my energy costs is more,
(22:53):
my food costs are more. Yeah, the stock market looks nice.
But again, I've talked to economists on this radio show,
and they have said that's not necessarily an accurate depiction
of what the economy looks like. Interest rates are insanely
high across the country. I know that's cyclical, but in
this moment right now that we're living in I haven't
had to pay more for my energy and my food
and for my interest rates and my taxes than I
(23:15):
ever have before. So I understand where you're saying, like, hey,
when you budget properly, maybe you'll have enough to not
worry about this stuff. Not everybody is so lucky, Mike.
I don't know how you can tell me that the
economy is in great shape when we literally have been
living under inflation for the better part of the last
three years.
Speaker 9 (23:36):
Well, I don't know about you, Emory. Are you making
more money right now in your life than you ever have?
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Well, I think that's a bit of a relative discussion,
because I got a massive promotion in the last couple
of years, So I mean, yeah, I'm making more money
than I was before, but a lot of that has
to do with the fact that I worked my way
into a different job. You know, there are people that
are I think the better question is there are people
that have been at the same job for the last five, ten,
(24:04):
fifteen years and aren't making any more money than they
were before, and are also having to pay more and
their energy, more for their food, more for their rents,
or their mortgages that are way higher than they were
a handful of years ago. I understand there's a lot
of different factors to that, Mike, but I can talk
to you specifically about several people that I know that
(24:24):
I've been working the same job over that time span,
and they're in really bad shape compared to where they
were five years ago.
Speaker 9 (24:32):
Are these the same people that spend their stimmy checks
going to Europe?
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Mike, I'll be honest with you, I don't know exactly
how they spent their stimulus checks, but I do want
to let you know that these are people that I
would trust when they say, like, Hey, you know, I'm
having to spend a lot more money now than I
was before. I can't do thing X that you'd like
to do with me. I can't go on thing X
this time around. I can't go out three or four
(24:58):
nights a week to hang out with with you. That's that.
These are people that are saying, you know, my energy
costs have doubled or tripled based on what they were
when I first bought this house. I don't know how
we can. Yeah, but Mike, that's fine, right, But that's
a complete You're you're ignoring the fact that the prices
are still up, right, Like the prices went up so
(25:21):
and they may be they they may be, Mike, But
I wouldn't say that the economy is in great shape.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
Okay, those different economies better shape in the last probably
six months than it's been in the last three years.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I would agree with that, Mike, I one hundred percent
agree with that. I just want to know, like, how
how the economy in the last three years, how it
got to the spot that it was, especially with energy costs,
especially with some of the stuff that we've been talking
about in this conversation about food, gas prices. You want
to talk about the taxes and the the interest rates
and the cost of living for rent and mortgages. When
(25:57):
did it start popping up? It came in in the
last few years, right, And I understand that there's.
Speaker 9 (26:02):
Stuff I think had a lot.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
I don't disagree with that at all, and I think
foreign wars and stuff like that had something to do
with it, whether those were avoidable or not. I'm hearing you,
but I'm just saying that our government leadership over the
last three and a half years has done nothing to
help us with that nothing.
Speaker 9 (26:20):
I don't completely disagree with you, but I don't think
the previous administration did very much either. I certainly don't
think they made things any better. So I think some
of the fresh ideas that are being talked about that
are more middle of the road rather than the crazies
on the right and the left, I think certainly needs
(26:42):
some exploring. I think all of this is economics one
oh one, and I think that people need to realize
that they have to cut back on their spending. They
It's the same way with gas price, right, all these
people driving around in these huge vehicles. Yeah, talk about
how fuel is so expensive. Yeah, I don't drive an
(27:05):
F eight fifty truck. Yeah with fit and lucks package
now because I deserve it.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Oh, I got you, I got you, Mike. I'm hearing you,
And this was a good call. I appreciate your thoughts
on this. I think we're going to have to agree
to disagree on some of Like, Hey, should people have
to stop spending money in a way that they'd like
to because the government is creating a bigger issue. I
think we'll have to disagree with that, but I do
appreciate the thought. Today. Real quick, I need to get
to John. John's been waiting for a while. Let's get
to John real quick before we hit the brake. John,
(27:34):
what's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (27:36):
Hey man? So I was a paramedic there. I'm a paramedic.
So I've seen the healthcare and the COVID how that
bill and everything. It's forced insurance companies, the Medicare and
Medicaid to pay the full amount to hospitals and these
pop up COVID testing centers anywhere between five hundred and
one thousand dollars they had to pay to these places
(27:59):
and they were gearing need money. So there's a lot
more money that would be pumped in than people think
that just.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
From the checks.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
So that's that's where I'm out there. And Yeah, as
far as the previous caller he was, I don't think
he's a spot on at all because I mean like
people are keeping their cars longer. They're not buying new
cars because they can't afford it, They're keeping their older cars.
It may be a truck, whatever, but it's cheaper to
have a paid off car than it is to be
financing a car and paying gas.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Yeah, and there's no doubt about that. And this is
the same administration that also wants to plant in your mind, hey,
you might be needing to think about buying an electric
vehicle sometime in the future because they're going to force
all the car companies to start moving in that direction. Right,
That's something that they talked about as well, while making
things more expensive for gas, in food and energy and
all this stuff that we already have to deal with
(28:50):
in the middle of trying to come out of a pandemic.
You're spot on, John, and I'm glad that you were
able to call and thanks for all the hard work
that you do behind the scenes in the healthcare industry.
Not a pretty job, and I'm glad that they're people
like you out there willing to take it on.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
Yep, thank you, Good day, you.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Too, uh, Fred Mark, Christopher Terry, everybody else calling in.
We will get to you the phone lines are active
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And Maurice Sunger on News Radio eleven ten Kfab.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Fred, Welcome to the show today. What's on your mind?
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Hey?
Speaker 11 (29:24):
That guy then, I don't know about him. He's kind
of crazy, you know. He asked you about telling about
you making the most you've ever made in your life,
and yeah, I would have to say, for a majority
of us, yes we are. We've advanced ourselves in our career.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
But guess what, dude.
Speaker 11 (29:40):
We're also paying twice as much to live. That's what
we've ever paid before too. So just because we're making more,
that doesn't mean we're keeping more.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
No, And it's right. Yeah, I and I had a
guy interestingly had the exact same name as the caller
emailing me saying, oh, yeah, he's all over you. So
I don't know if he's also like texting and emailing
me while I'm on the air, But yeah, I mean
it's just like, first of all, kind of an audacious
question to be asking somebody here, are you making more
money than you've ever made before? But also at the
same time, look, I got a huge promotion in my job.
(30:12):
I'm a bad person. Ask ask seventy five percent of
America that is still working similar jobs as they were
pre pandemic, and ask them how EASi or difficult life
is right now to try to just pay the bills.
I think you're going to get a big difference in
opinion based on what Mike was saying earlier.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, right, right, right.
Speaker 11 (30:30):
And I don't think all of us are out here
driving F eight to fifty.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
I don't like to week.
Speaker 11 (30:35):
I rarely see any of those.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Yeah. I see a few.
Speaker 11 (30:37):
Soup dup trucks every once in a while, But I
think for the most part, people are still buying the
F one fifty.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yeah they need for sure. Yeah, no, there's no doubt.
And I mean you want to talk about energy costs
and gas prices. Yeah, gas is down a little bit
now than it was, you know, a year ago this time,
but that doesn't make it a lot easier for people
when they have to pay for their power, their air conditioning,
their heat in the winter time.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
It did.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
It's way more expensive now than it's ever been before.
Fred appreciate the call.
Speaker 8 (31:05):
Yep, thanks Manday you too.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Mark's on a phone line of four h two five
to five, eight to eleven, ten, Mark, Welcome to the
show today. What's on your mind?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I am a very great show today.
Speaker 11 (31:14):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Just one question for you. Is the economy better off
better right now than it was when Trump left office?
Speaker 9 (31:21):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Left office? I mean that's a tough question, Mark, because
he left office literally in the middle of the pandemic. So,
I mean it's it's difficult. It's difficult to know what
would have happen one way or the other.
Speaker 11 (31:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
So, so if Trump is not being held accountable for COVID,
why are you holding Biden Harris accountable for the effect
on the economy because of COVID that they've had to
deal with.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, so I guess, Mike, Well, I think I can Mark.
And this is how And again, I'm not trying to
get overtly political about this, except the fact that I
know what I've experienced in my life and what my
friends and my family what they've experienced in the last
five years of their lives. There was one political party
that was really pushing for the shutdown of everything at
all times. They said it was that these people were
(32:05):
saying it was a two week thing, and then it
was a month thing, and then it was a two
month thing, and then it was a seven month thing,
and next thing you know, they're still telling us that
we shouldn't be out and about they're costing a ton
of people in sectors, a ton of jobs, which really
also harmed the economy, while at the same time the
government's like, Okay, let's send you unemployed people as much
money as we can so you can live in this situation.
(32:27):
And then once everything opened back up a couple of
years later, under the watch of a lot of these people,
you have a lot of people that are seeing increase
in prices and a lot of stuff, not just the
energy and the food, but a lot of increase in rent,
in mortgages, in gas prices, a lot of that stuff.
I know isn't in control of any one political party
or any one politician, but it is a mismanagement from
(32:48):
people who basically said, do not stimulate the economy, will
stimulate your pocketbook without you having to leave your house.
That I think has a lot to do with where
we're at right now in a lot of these blue states.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I agree that COVID is responsible for this. Like we said,
Trump vivid stimulus check biding day, have a couple of
stimulus checks. But inflation is COVID related. Sure, so you
can't blame Biden and Harris because of COVID and not
blame Trump for the crappy economy that he left office with.
(33:21):
We can't have it both ways.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
And you know what, Mark, I can understand where you're
coming from on this. I just know if it would
have been the other way around, we would be talking
about the same thing the other way around. Like the Democrats,
if they would have been in office when it hit,
we'd be talking about how horribly they mismanaged it. The
Republicans would have won the election in November if that's
the case, and then we would be talking about how
the Republicans probably mismanaged it too. That's the butterfly effect.
(33:45):
That's hindsight. There's no way to know exactly what happened.
All I know is that what happened before Trump lost
in twenty twenty was a different type of confusion, which
was happening as we were trying to survive the pandemic.
And then there was an another type of hey, let's
just give a bunch of people stimulus checks to help
them survive this, you know situation that we have right
(34:07):
now while also not allowing the economy to be fully open.
They were basically telling people it's totally okay for them
to not work, for them not to be a part of,
you know, a functioning open society. And that's where you
get a lot of the generational divide and people being like, hey,
first of all, you know, I don't want to have
to go to work because the people on the left
(34:28):
have told me straight up that, you know, I don't
want to like they, I could get sick if I
go outside. I need to be wearing my mask. I
need to be getting my COVID shots. Then it had
another caller is working in the you know, industry of
the medical field, and he says there's a lot more
money that was getting pumped in there that people don't
even know about. Look, I'm not here to tell you
that I have all the answers. I'm just here to
(34:49):
tell you that at some point you have to look
at Tim Wallas in Minnesota and some of the stuff
these people were doing in this situation that got us
to the point that we're in today. If we're going
to understand why the policies economically that the right has
makes way more sense than the policies of the left.
That doesn't mean that people are going to care about
that either, because people generally vote for what makes them
feel good. We'll keep talking about this plenty more phone
(35:11):
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