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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nebraska just steamrolled Creighton and men's basketball, and good for them.
They look pretty solid.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Nebraska eight and oh they look playing good basketball.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
They look pretty good. I'm I'm pretty excited to see
how far that can go. Creighton has to figure it out.
Their team is much better than they appeared in that
game and what they have looked on and off. I
know they have injuries, they have guys out, but there
wasn't a lot in that game that gave me a
lot of confidence about about them.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Doug McDermott said at the beginning of the year, we
got the offensive talent. The defensive side will just have
to figure it out. It doesn't appear that they've done
much figuring out of the defense.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Not not yet. No Nebraska, by the way, number twenty
two in the coaches pulled this week in men's hoops.
Congrats to him, and who knows how far that'll go.
I mean, how exciting is that got Wisconsin and at
a top fifteen team Illinois coming up here this week,
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so we're going to learn a little bit more about
them as they dip their toe into Big Ten play here.
But I want to talk about a couple of other
big things that happen in college athletics. First of all,
Iowa State University Matt Campbell officially left on Friday night.
Oh before I get too deep, Creighton and Nebraska women's
volleyball still in play. They're in the Sweet sixteen. They'll
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play later this week. We'll give you all the details
and stuff. Nebraska looks really good. They still they haven't
really had a hiccup. They're very they're in great shape.
I don't know if there is a team out there
that really can beat them. They just eat. Feels inevitable.
They feel inevitable, but you don't want to count the
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chickens ntil they hatch.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
So Sweet sixteen is here. Creighton's there too.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
We'll see if they can get another couple of wins
this weekend. Now, the Matt Campbell situation, that's a wrap.
And Iowa State immediately hired Jimmy Rogers from Washington State
as his replacement, so he must have been in Jamie
Pollard's mind for a while as the next guy. Jamie
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Pollard is the only athletic director in America who does
things like this. He he wants guys who wants to
be in names. He's not going to trick himself into
making Iowa State seem like it's a stepping stone job
to a bigger, Big ten or SEC gig, whether it's
football or basketball. And he's also not going to treat
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Iowa State like it's one of these schools that can
get the best coaches on the market. So it was
a tough weekend and there are a lot of rumors
about in IL revenue sharing control and then you know
it really stings if you're an Iowa State fantasy. Matt
Campbell today do an introductory press conference with Penn State
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and hear all this stuff in past tense. You didn't
only get a chance to grieve, you didn't get any
closure until you already knew you're a new head coach.
Wasn't He was officially announced today, so if you don't
know who he is, he was the head coach for
South Dakota State in twenty twenty three when they won
the national championship, and he took the Washington State job
this year. This was his first year at Washington State,
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and Jamie Pollard, the Iowa State athletic director, said the
reason he took that job was because he wanted to.
Jamie told him he needed another step. He needed to
get one level higher before he could hire him at
Iowa State, because you got to sell it to the boosters,
you got to sell it to the fans and everything.
I'm just not sure Jamie expected to have to make
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this move this fast, because one six and six season
at Washington State is not that's not enough, you would
think to justify the higher just the fact that you
like who he is as a person, you like what
he did at South Dakota State, and you think that
he's thirty eight years old. You think he could be
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the next Matt Campbell and he'll give you a good
ten plus years as the cyclone head coach. Meanwhile, in Nebraska,
a pretty interesting development. Nebraska fires offensive line coach Donovan Riola.
And if this isn't Dylan Riola getting in the transfer
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portal and have that written, I don't know that we
haven't heard that. But with Dayton Riyola de committing from Nebraska,
which was somewhat surprising. He didn't have a ton of
other D one offers. But he de commits from Nebraska.
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He's like, okay, so he doesn't even want to come
beyond the team. Okay, we immediately started kind of the
speculation there, like, is Dylan looking elsewhere now he broke
his fibula, miss last third of the season essentially and
obviously won't play in the ball game. But now that
his uncle who was on the staff and was on
the staff before Matt Rule got here, now that he's gone,
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I think the riding is obviously on the wall. So ah,
what do you think? And do we care? I mean,
at this point this is in this I don't mean
this to be a slight. I'm not one hundred percent
sure that there's you know, I wonder if we were
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just kind of also a little disappointed that the rule
Dylan Ryola partnership didn't result in were on the field success.
We were going the right direction when he got hurt
in the USC game. Let's just if you wanted to
play Devil's advocate, maybe we come back, can win that game.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I don't know if that was going to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And then the way that we lost at Penn State
and Iowa and home against Iowa, those would be the
to me, I don't know if you're gonna come dealan
rye Old with participation is gonna change that much to
exactly how that went down. We got blowed out by
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Minnesota in a very similar fashion with Dylan playing. So
are we ready for the next chapter? In this age
of college football, you can't get attached to these guys,
I guess, is my my greater point.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, everyone moves around so much. And I think if
you take the Ryola last name away and you just
judge him on his job this season, strictly for what
he did, you could argue that maybe the offensive line
did underperform, and Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
The offensive I think, don't. I don't know if anybody
disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I mean, I know that they did experience a lot
of injury problems all season at nagged the offensive line.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
But also, you.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Know, Jim Rose said quite a bit too that you
could argue Riola was creating his own sacks by not
giving the ball up or trying to too long. Yeah,
you take the last name away, and maybe you say
you can justify the firing. You know what he You know,
offensive line underperformed. But I will say because of the
last name, it stirs the pot quite a bit. He
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asks a lot of questions. It makes you think, It
makes you wonder, and Matt rules got to start, he's
got to start moving. I mean, three years in we're
going to the We're going to Las Vegas to play
in that Bowl game, and you know, cool, it'll be
a fun trip.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
But where are we going next?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
But we could get throttled in Las Vegas too.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Utah is good to a number fifteen team, Utah, we
could get throttled, yeah, But I mean it doesn't matter,
and I don't you like to win the game, of course,
no doubt. I'm not gonna put a ton of stock
in bowl games nowadays, just because I have no idea
who's playing in them.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I have no idea how many guys from you Utah
are going to sit it out because they're going to
the pros. I have no idea how many guys from
both teams are going to be in the transfer portal.
What I know is that they got a really stable
coaching staff, and they are really good, and they usually
are competing at the top of their conference, whatever that
conference is now it's the Big Twelve. And they're one
of the first teams that missed the playoff this year,
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behind BYU and some SEC teams. And then you look
at next year. Matt Rules got to be building the
foundation for next year. If you're a Husker fan, I
don't know if eight wins is the number anymore, like
I think you gotta be thinking nine to ten. I
want to be in the conversation of the playoff going
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into the last couple weeks. We have to get to
that point. I need to see little numbers next to
Nebraska's name when we're playing marquee games.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
We need to be talked about like that.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
And as much as it was fun at the beginning
of this season, first half of the season started like
five to one or whatever, it felt like we were
getting there and then we didn't get there. So that's
what has to happen now. And the offensive line is
a huge part of that. And if you don't think
Donovan Royla is the guy that can coach that unit
to that level, or you already knew that Dylan Roola
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was probably going to transfer, because what else would you
need Donovan Royola for if you were keeping them on
the staff to try to make Dylan happy. Well, if
Dylan's already thinking about going somewhere else, that makes your
decision easier. We need to completely revamp how we're doing
the offensive line and who's coaching them, and so yeah,
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it was a notable firing, but it's also you have
no more time. If you're Matt Rule and we don't
make a bowl game next year, that is we're going
the wrong way. Even if for six and six, seven
and five next year, that's no progress.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
No progress.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
You gotta I think, and I think you got to skip.
Like I think this year was the eight win thing.
You had to get to eight and then we can
get into that ten talk. But we're not there. It
doesn't look like we're there. You have to start really
trying some different stuff. So we get there, and we
gave him this huge extension because we wanted.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Him to stay. We didn't want him to get poached
by Penn State.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Well, now the athletic Department's got to put every possible
resource behind there. Learned today that the NIL collective, the
eighteen ninety collective gone, it's out. All the NIL funds
are now going to be operated in the house by Nebraska,
and that's a lot of school's doing that that way.
But it is a huge deal to get everything lined
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up because you have to be good next year. You
have to take the next step people already are getting
a little bit antsy with the way the season ended
those last two games. You got a chance to try
to fix it with this Bowl game a little tiny bit,
but next year it has to be a significant step forward.
Iowa stateman's basketball knocking off Purdue, that's pretty important. It's
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a big, pretty big deal. Did you you see that
Purdue is number one in the country? Iowa State? Then
I didn't see that, but it won by twenty three
at Purdue. It's tied for the largest win over a
number one team when the number one team was at home.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
So that's a blowout. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, And I mean it was the day after all
the Matt Campbell stuff happened, so the I would say
fan base needed that.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Basketball. Though.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
You can lose a game like that and you can
still be forgiven throughout the year. They'll be fine, assuming
that Purdue will Yeah, yeah, Perdue.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Will be fine.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
But Iowa State, I mean men's basketball doing some heavy
lifting to try to make sure.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
There's been some good basketball that's come out of Iowa
State over the years.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And George Niang, yep, and uh, it's one of the things, man,
that basketball program they're a basketball school, yes exactly, And
that's one of the reasons why I think people you're
gonna have to understand Nebraska's big enough and has enough funds,
They're in the right conference, they have all of the
resources that they need. They they can try to be
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good in both and wrestling plus wrestling plus volleyball right like,
they have resources to be like to have those sports
and to be competitive in them. Basketball hasn't quite gotten
where they want it to be yet, but football is
still a Everybody wants football to be good at Iowa State.
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But I think if you ask a bunch of Iowa
State fans what you'd rather have right now, I think
they would say, put more resources into basketball. We're close,
Like we could win a national championship in basketball. Not
sure even if Iowa State puent all in, could they
realistically on the field beat these SEC and Big ten
schools that they would have to run into in the playoff.
Making the playoff would be kind of the goal, right Well,
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there's expanded playoff talks going to fourteen to sixteen, maybe
even twenty four down the line, which I think is
the eventual answer is just to do that and get riddle.
All these bowl games and nobody cares about Iowa State,
one of several teams that declined bowl invitations for one
reason or another. Creates, you know, a little bit of
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urgency that hey, maybe basketball and wrestling are the sports
we need to Iowa State number four this week in
back in men's basketball, they're number ten in women's basketball,
and they are number like and there's top five in wrestling.
They just beat Iowa for the first time in twenty
years in a wrestling duel.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
So yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I had another email come in said, if you think
that we can turn our schedule around, take a look
at the schedule next year for football, because I said,
you really need to get to ten wins.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I have it here.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Here's here's the three non cons are Ohio, Bowling Green,
and North Dakota. North Dakota a good playoff team from FCS.
But you'd think that you're going to handle that. You're
paying all three of those schools to come play you
in in Lincoln, So those are by games. You're putting
money into teams to have them come and play you.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
So cool.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
The conference schedule looks like this, and we don't have
dates or anything. But they got Maryland who you know,
we had to come from behind and win on the
last minute drive. Washington who quality team. Jed fish is
you know made them quality after being in the national
title a couple of years ago. Illinois was ranked for
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a good chunk of the season. Michigan State is not
going to be They're going to be rebuilding, retooling. Rutgers
hard to know what Rutgers will look like. They have
stability at head coach, but they stumbled down the stretch
after a good start this year. And then Iowa, Okay,
we know we have trouble with that team. That ink
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Kirk Ferance will be back. I don't know who played
quarterback for them, but we have trouble. No matter who's
playing it, it's Iowa. Yeah, it's going to be it's
gonna be a match. And then we have Oregon, Ohio State,
and India the three Big ten playoff teams who are
all in the top five. So yeah, if you're thinking like,
what does that look like, what's the next step, ladies
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and gentlemen, Yeah, I'm still gonna say nine ten wins
has to happen if you want to feel like we're
making progress.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Nine.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Ten wins has to be the goal next year. And
I don't care that Indiana's number one. I don't care
that Ohio State's number two. I don't care that Oregon
number five. I don't care that Iowa always beats Nebraska.
I don't care. I don't care that some of these
games are on the road. The only one of those
three we get Ohio State and Indiana here we have
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to go to Eugene, Oregon, and we would have to
go to Iowa City. I don't care. I just don't care.
At some point we have to win. And then if
you get your your lunch handed to you by these teams,
like maybe we think that could happen to us next year.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
What are we doing here? What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Unless Freddie Heiberg gets the Nebraska Cornhuskers to the Sweet
sixteen and men's basketball or Nebraska wins a you know,
national championship or two in wrestling, women's basketball makes a run.
I don't know what it takes, but you cannot distract
Big Red Nation from this football program not getting to
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the next step. And you're giving Matt Rule a lot
of money to get to the next step. So what
will it take I don't care what it takes. You
have any in Ohio state here if they give you
your lunch in Lincoln, what are we talking about? If
you can't go to Iowa, you can't go to Oregon,
you can't go to Illinois, you can't go to Rutgers,
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and you can't find a way to win a few
of those games, what are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Are we still Nebraska? I thought we were.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
You know, I know we're not in Nebraska of nineteen
ninety four, but we're in Nebraska.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
And if you think that.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
People still care like they generally do, and you have
this sellout streak you're super proud of, we're gonna have
to start seeing it on the field. Seven and five
in the regular season isn't going to cut it. I
do not care who's on your schedule. You're paying Matt
Rule to compete and try to beat these teams. These
are the teams you have to beat to get where
you want to go. If you can't find a way
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to get a win against some of these ranked teams,
these good teams, then what.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Are we talking about.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I have this guy I posted on Twitter about this
Iowa state debacle and the fact that we're gonna not
play in a ball game and all that stuff. I say,
we I'm still in Iowan, you know, I still cheer
for Iowa State from afar. Could you imagine not playing
in the bowl game.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
That was a common trend of this weekend. There was
a few teams that did it them. Iowa State didn't,
Kansas State didn't. So the curse of the Ireland Game,
the Week zero Ireland game continues. We didn't know that
they both eventually were Bowl eligible, which that's the first
time that's happened where both teams that played in Ireland
both became Bowl eligible. But both teams had a very
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disappointing season as it relates to.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
The UH.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
As it relates to their overall record. Both teams thought
they were going to be in the conversation for Big
twelve Championship. That did not happen. And then, of course,
both teams lost their head coaches. Chris Climbing for Kansas
State retired and Matt Campbell left to go to Penn State.
Both teams in a complete matter of flux. Maybe it's
also the curse of the Pop Tarts Bowl. We played
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two Pop Tarts Bowl at the end of the season
two years ago, it was Kansas State who won, and
Iowa State won last year, and look they got sent
to Ireland for a game, and now look at them
in shambles. Notre Dame first team out of the College
Football Playoff. They did not include them in the playoff.
They said no to a bowl game. Now, they don't
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have any excuse of that than the fact that there's
like that we think we're too good for a regular
bowl game.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
For Iowa State to back out of a ball game,
I get it, no head coach, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Like players voted on it because and they have to
both those Kidsas State and Iowa State. They have to
pay the big twelve five hundred thousand dollars in a
fine basically for not playing that game. That tells you
that these teams are both going to have a ton
of guys in the portal and they don't have anybodyself. Yeah,
and you don't have anybody to coach the game. So
is it ideal? No, But that's the calendar that we
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talk about it, we complain about it. You know, it's
just like transfer portal opens, got to get in it.
Coach gets a job off for somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Gotta take it. That's just the reality.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Then we go to Notre Dame and this one, and
it might be a little too critical. I just feel
like it's kind of the sorry way out.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
It's soft.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
You don't get what you want, and I'm just gonna
I'm gonna take my ball and I'm gonna go home.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Now you don't get Notre Dame in a ball game, now,
congratulations made us angry.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm sad that I'm upset that we didn't get in.
So I'm gonna take my ball and go home. And
not playing a bowl game. Well, how about you get
in a conference and then maybe you can get it
and get some votes or have a chance.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Maybe you play some some tough games.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Well, instantly, the reason they got left out was because
they played Miami and Miami beat them lost in a
head to head.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
And I don't know why Miami wasn't ranked ahead of
them in the first place. Because of that, the Miami
had been ranked behind them for a few weeks.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
And it was just like one or two spots every time,
or you know, it was within reach.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
But they just never thought to do that until this week.
And I think maybe it's because the acc didn't have
a team after their conference champion ended up being eight
and five Duke who's not ranked and shouldn't be ranked.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
It's a mess.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Bottom line is, it's sad to see that this is
where college sports is going. And I have no idea
who's going to be playing for Nebraska or Utah in
their bowl game. Iowa gets to go play in Tampa
at the relya Quest Bowl, the Old Outback Bowl, and
they play Vanderbilt. That should be a pretty high level game.
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There's a chance the Heisman winner is the quarterback for Vanderbilt.
I don't know who he's going to play. I don't
know who's playing for both teams. They don't mean what
they used to meet because we have this playoff now,
and that's fine. I'd rather, you know, let's decide the
national championship on the field.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
That's fine with me.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Let's stop kidding ourselves that these are are super important.
I don't know what that takes. I mean, am I
excited to see Nebraska play in Vegas? So there are
a ton of Husker fans listening that are going to
go to Vegas and watch the game. Yeah, have fun,
It'll be a great time. You get to as a
football game party basically what it is. There's no real
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stakes on the game itself, so you know, enjoy yourself,
have some fun. I have people on my Twitter that
basically are like, well, we need to give more in
IL because that's why are in IL. And he's talking
about Iowa State or in IL is low compared to
some others and we're not able to get winning talent.
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It's like, brother, I have how much money do you
want me to give. I'm supposed to buy tickets to
support the team and go to games. I'm supposed to
buy merch. I'm supposed to travel and support the team
when they go and play places. I'm supposed to have
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all you know, like any time that they do like
a fundraiser or one of those big athletic department events
where you can like give money to the athletic department.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
You know, all the big schools.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Do stuff like that, and you know you get to
meet players and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Like have brock Purty cut a check.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, you have all that stuff. I'm supposed to I'm
supposed to do that. I'm supposed to you know, go
to those things and you know, buy silent auction items
that are, you know, signed helmet or something.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Great, And now I got to give more because this
athletic department that's already making tens of millions of dollars
a year in media rights deals and is paying their
coaches and their players millions and millions of dollars, Like
that's not enough. It's not enough to make them competitive
and keep the coach. And then when the coach decides
to leave, I don't get to say, I don't get
a chance to talk him into staying. My money just
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keeps going into the general fund of the athletic department.
And I have no I have no control over who
we hire. I have no control over anything. You have
to be a big money donor to be able to
have a say in some of that stuff, and even
then you're not one hundred percent assured of it. This
is why I gravitate toward professional sports a lot of
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the time, and I enjoy professional sports.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
You know why.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
They don't need my money to exist and to be competitive.
They're not gonna if they're not asking me for more money.
How much more money can I give you? I got
a car payment, I got a mortgage, I'm still paying
my own student loans, my my little Diddley's college back
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in small town Iowa. It's still taking money from me.
I'm in my thirdays and you want more money from me.
You need more money from me. I'm sorry, I can't.
I can't help you. What do you want from me?
How is it my fault? What am I supposed to do?
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You want me to be the guy. That's not how
it works. You get millions of dollars to figure this
stuff out. Quit asking me for money. Hey, my lawnmower
might break tomorrow. I might need to buy a one
of those the hundreds of dollars you're asking me to
give a general fund to make my college football team good.
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I could use that for stuff that I actually know
is going to be there for me. You know, when
I buy that Aaron snowblower from van Wall Equipment, you're
gonna try. You're gonna try the stronger on me of
giving you that money. Instead, the snowblower is not going anywhere.
That seems like a better investment.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Maybe maybe I'm looking at this too cynically. Maybe I
need to embrace the new age of college athletics. But man,
I can tell how you'd be very disenfranchised trying to
in any way, shape or form, be invested into a
program like this financially when you're just a bum like
me who just wants to cheer on a winning program.
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The people that are the big money donors, do what
you want with your money.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I'll put your name on the field. They'll you know,
I will give you a skybox. You get a chance
to like make memories and all that stuff. Congratulations, knock
yourself out, go for it. But for people like me,
you're telling me us giving is the only way we're
going to compete. You're asking the wrong person. I'm sorry.
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How much was Miller South playing those kids?
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Like?
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Maybe we can ask them how they were able to
make it work?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
That was funny. That was funny.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Well, is that not what happened? They're not giving those kids.
I'm just I'm joshing or am I just joining us
to break all of it down. As our Husker insider
Sean Callahan, Sewan, thank you so much for being back
on the show today.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Yeah, good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
All right, First.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Things first, the I want to talk about the coaching situation,
coaching carousel, obviously as a an Iowa State guy watching
the Matt Campbell thing unfold and then all of the
chatter on line in the message boards, very much like
angry at the athletic director Jamie Pollard for his handling
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of NIL, thinking that him wanting to have all the
control for the entire athletic department and not let the
coaches kind of have control over how NIL was spent.
That was one of the things that drove Matt Campbell
out the door. I know you are very up on
this and how Nebraska is handling that sort of thing.
And the news today came, you know, with the collective
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kind of going all underneath Nebraska's athletic department instead of
kind of having a separate collective. How do you best
tell people how this nil and revenue sharing situation is
structured and how it works so we can have a
better grasp of it.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Yeah, So the collective eighteen ninety Nebraska, I mean, the
last three four years it's saved Nebraska. But now the
model has shifted. What eighteen ninety Nebraska was doing as
far as collecting money writing out agreements in order to
pay the athletes was pay for play, and that form
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of NIL is no longer allowed. There's a revenue share era.
So you know, the football program, for example, will roughly
have you know, fifteen sixteen million dollars from their revenue
share PI to pay football and that's more than ever
what like the collectives would have drawn up. And I
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know you hear things out there. It is a little
confusing because of the way front loading and high school
payments began triculating in Well, all that's going away moving
forward the new NIL rules. You can no longer circumate
get around the salary cap by paying high school players
in advance. You can't frontload anymore because the rules are
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in place. You know, there's just so many more rules
where the advantage is obviously being fully funded by revenue share.
But this kind of fell through the cracks on Friday's
boarder regent meetings. So much has talked about it, but
obviously about the programs being cut. But there was a
huge nil change. Their regents agreed to Playfly, which owns
the multimedia rights Nebraska. I think it roughly pays Nebraska
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fourteen fifteen million dollars a year for these rights. Well
nine million dollars of that now is going to be
reallocated to be utilized for nil payments where they can
create multimedia marketing agreements. So when you hear Matt Rule
talking about twenty five million dollars, this is how they
get there. There'll be sixteen million or so coming from
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the rev share, another nine million that could be there
from the multimedia money, which is the play fi money.
So Nebraska is going to have to reallocate just some
of that money, but all that would be legal, and
you know that's where you want to be. I mean,
Lane Kippen his ask when he went to LSU he
met with Florida and some other his asient Jimmy Section
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said we need twenty five million. Well, Nebraska has the
twenty five million. So there's this notion we're not where
we need to be. Here they are, they have it all.
They're set up for the future. We're still kind of
shifting through the old school way, but this is the
new way now where you need to be fully funded
by revenue share and then create the most legal, clean,
clean way, which is through your multimedia rights partner to
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execute the additional monies. You need to be competitive in
football and obviously not break the rules which you know,
if you sign this agreement, they have subpoena power. They
can check your phones and do things that you know
to prove you know, if there's something going wrong, your
head coach can be suspended now for like three or
four games. I mean, there's a lot of stiff penalties
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moving forward that you know, we'll see if it all happens.
But that's that's how that's where it's supposed.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
To be heading Sean Callahan with us today, it's kind
of like instead of you know, all of these recruiting
violations that you see, they're still rules, but they're not
nearly what they once were. Now it's all the money
rules and how you're able to spend your money and
how it's allocated. With that being said, one of the
big prizes over the last couple of years for Nebraska
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has been the five star quarterback Dylan Royola, who played
basically a year and two thirds of a season as
the starting quarterback until he broke his fibula in the
home game against USC this year, and there's just been
a lot of smoke around his future as a Husker,
and that got a little cloudier over the weekend with
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the announcement that Donovan Roola, his uncle who's been on
the staff even before Matt Rule got to Lincoln. Mean,
obviously the relation to Dominic Royolho's an all time Husker.
He has been fired. He's no longer going to be
the offensive line coach moving forward. This comes on the
heels of Dylan's younger brother, Dayton Royola de committing from
Nebraska a few weeks ago. What can you tell us
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about the move away from Donovan Roolas the offensive line
coach and what that means on the field, but also
what it means for the future of Dylan Roola as
the quarterback of the Huskers.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
Well, I think they're connected, but I don't think they're
as connected as you might think, because they're just two
separate things. I mean, I don't know, for example, Dominic
and Donovan how close they were throughout the year. I
don't think their relationship maybe was as close as you
might think for being two brothers. And it's understandable. I mean,
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the offensive line had a couple of games this year
that completely changed the season. They gave up seven sacks
against Michigan it could have been actually worse, and they
gave up nine against Minnesota. You can argue that those
two moments with the O line, along with the O
line sack against USC where Dylan Rollo was hurt, we're
kind of the changing points of the season. So I
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don't think anybody should be like too surprised that Matt
Rule made a move because things just probably weren't progressing
at the rate they need to be for a year four.
That was supposed to be your strongest position, and he
did what he had to do. And then Dylan Ralla
is still on this team, and you know he's moving
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forward as a member of this team, going to his
rehab and Lincoln, So nothing's changed with him right now.
I know everyone thinks something kind of connects the dots,
but things remain very status quo. And that's coming from
pretty direct sources. Right now. I can tell you that
like now, could it change on a dime, absolutely, and
it could change with one phone call, But as of
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right now, I don't think any of those phone calls
are coming in because A he's hurt and b he
carries a hell of a price tag. I mean, so,
if you know, there's just a lot of things about
Dylan now, if there are teams that would want to
poach him. You know, there are a lot of things
there that a team would have to look at too.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, that's a good point. The price tag in and
of itself. And has he produced to the level that
you were hoping for? And we talked about this earlier
in the show because and we talked about this when
he got hurt, we knew he was out for the season.
He certainly has great abilities. He certainly is a difference
maker at the quarterback position. But have we gotten everything
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out of our investment financially but also our emotional investment
into him, knowing that he was a five star recruit
in one of the top quarterbacks of his class. Do
you think that if he were to leave and get
into the transfer portal and there was some other school
that was like, yeah, we definitely want to pocket passer
type like him. You know, Texas Tech comes to mind
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potentially for the future. You know, like there was a
former Texas Tech guy that looks an awful lot like
Dylan Ryola physically that you know, who the heck knows.
But you know, you think about that, Let's say he's
out the door, what is his legacy with the two
years as the starting quarterback for the Huskers.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Well, yeah, I mean, he doesn't have a win over
a ranked opponent, but he's obviously got him to a
bowl game two years in a row, which in this
sample size, what the program has been is a success,
but obviously not the success that you would expect overall. Unfortunately.
You know, you look at some of the moments where
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they could have got the win over USC and he
got hurt on that play, or even last year at
Ohio State that was such an opportunity. You had the
national champions I mean, guys, Ohole's Day won the National
championship and you're in their place, leading the game in
the fourth quarter late and you weren't able to capitalize
and kind of finish that game off and miss some throws.
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But you know, he delivered some good moments this year.
I mean the Northwestern drive to win the game and
Maryland drive to win the game, and those are big
time drives. Just unfortunate they didn't happen in some of
the really meaningful games like Michigan or Iowa or USC
that you really kind of define a player's legacy on,
like this Bowl game against Utah, if he would if
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you're able to get a win over a ten and
two Utah team, that would be the best win Nebraska
has had in a long time. So it is unfortunate
he never really delivered that type of moment, but he
still had plenty of you know, good moment home as
a Husker, just obviously not the big one that would
change the program.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
And this leads to the next point. We have a
bowl game that we're preparing for. You're trying to figure
out what the bull game means. It's going to be
a fun trip. Las Vegas is a great destination to
have a football game. You get to play a quality opponent.
We have no idea how many guys are or are
not playing. There are plenty of teams like Notre Dame,
Iowa State, Kansas State, who just said we're not playing
ball games for one reason or another. What How do
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you best describe how important this game is? Knowing we
play Utah, knowing it's in a fun place, and knowing
that you're going to probably see thousands and thousands of
Husker fans still in the building.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Yeah, I think that's what helped Nebraska their fan base.
They jumped up a couple of spots in the pecking
or Illinois and Minnesota technically could have gone ahead of Nebraska,
but Nebraska want to had both of them because of
the program and the great history. And Nebraska is a
great West Coast team for traveling fans because you've got
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such a large contingent in Phoenix, Vegas in California, and
that group of twenty to twenty five thousand fans will
always travel to all these games. And I'm sure it
will be the same in Vegas that you're going to get,
you know, a solid core of probably fifteen thousand plus
West Coasters out there, if not more, and then you're
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going to get the other people that come from Nebraska.
So for a game that isn't really that meaningful in
the grand picture, it will still have a good contingent.
And the attendance record for the Vegas Bowl was back
in like six and it was forty four thousand. It
would not surprise me at all this game shatters that
record for that Bowl game. I mean last year they
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only drew I believe it was twenty six thousand for
A and m USC. So it's not been a Bowl
that's drawn well. You would think it draw better because
it was always a West Coast team and you're playing
indoors now, But I would think this one's gonna draw
a very big number for what's not in the grand
scheme of things, a big picture bowl game.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt at all, Sean, We're gonna
obviously have a chance. Maybe a little bit later this week,
I want to talk a little bit about volleyball and
the impact that that program is having. And also this
basketball team, all of a sudden is really interesting, really intriguing.
They popped into the rankings this week and haven't lost yet.
They really handled Creighton. We'll have to break them down
a little bit later on, but I'm out of time
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this time around. Sewan has always really do appreciate all
that you do for us, and they can't wait to
chat with you again soon real quick.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
Nebraska volleyball, Nebraska basketball men's and women combined fifty to
oh right now, think about that.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Fifty and oh yeah, that'll put a little shiver up
your spine. The volleyball volleyball team, you know, we're talking
national title or bust. The two basketball teams. You're kind
of like, well, you know, kind of do you want
to be tipping about your excitement, but it's hard not
to get super excited with what you're seeing right now.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Sean appreciate it. Man, thanks for being on the show.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Faky
Nebraska just steamrolled Creighton and men's basketball, and good for them.
They look pretty solid.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Nebraska eight and oh they look playing good basketball.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
They look pretty good. I'm I'm pretty excited to see
how far that can go. Creighton has to figure it out.
Their team is much better than they appeared in that
game and what they have looked on and off. I
know they have injuries, they have guys out, but there
wasn't a lot in that game that gave me a
lot of confidence about about them.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Doug McDermott said at the beginning of the year, we
got the offensive talent. The defensive side will just have
to figure it out. It doesn't appear that they've done
much figuring out of the defense.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Not not yet. No Nebraska, by the way, number twenty
two in the coaches pulled this week in men's hoops.
Congrats to him, and who knows how far that'll go.
I mean, how exciting is that got Wisconsin and at
a top fifteen team Illinois coming up here this week,
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so we're going to learn a little bit more about
them as they dip their toe into Big Ten play here.
But I want to talk about a couple of other
big things that happen in college athletics. First of all,
Iowa State University Matt Campbell officially left on Friday night.
Oh before I get too deep, Creighton and Nebraska women's
volleyball still in play. They're in the Sweet sixteen. They'll
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play later this week. We'll give you all the details
and stuff. Nebraska looks really good. They still they haven't
really had a hiccup. They're very they're in great shape.
I don't know if there is a team out there
that really can beat them. They just eat. Feels inevitable.
They feel inevitable, but you don't want to count the
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chickens ntil they hatch.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
So Sweet sixteen is here. Creighton's there too.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
We'll see if they can get another couple of wins
this weekend. Now, the Matt Campbell situation, that's a wrap.
And Iowa State immediately hired Jimmy Rogers from Washington State
as his replacement, so he must have been in Jamie
Pollard's mind for a while as the next guy. Jamie
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Pollard is the only athletic director in America who does
things like this. He he wants guys who wants to
be in names. He's not going to trick himself into
making Iowa State seem like it's a stepping stone job
to a bigger, Big ten or SEC gig, whether it's
football or basketball. And he's also not going to treat
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Iowa State like it's one of these schools that can
get the best coaches on the market. So it was
a tough weekend and there are a lot of rumors
about in IL revenue sharing control and then you know
it really stings if you're an Iowa State fantasy. Matt
Campbell today do an introductory press conference with Penn State
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and hear all this stuff in past tense. You didn't
only get a chance to grieve, you didn't get any
closure until you already knew you're a new head coach.
Wasn't He was officially announced today, so if you don't
know who he is, he was the head coach for
South Dakota State in twenty twenty three when they won
the national championship, and he took the Washington State job
this year. This was his first year at Washington State,
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and Jamie Pollard, the Iowa State athletic director, said the
reason he took that job was because he wanted to.
Jamie told him he needed another step. He needed to
get one level higher before he could hire him at
Iowa State, because you got to sell it to the boosters,
you got to sell it to the fans and everything.
I'm just not sure Jamie expected to have to make
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this move this fast, because one six and six season
at Washington State is not that's not enough, you would
think to justify the higher just the fact that you
like who he is as a person, you like what
he did at South Dakota State, and you think that
he's thirty eight years old. You think he could be
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the next Matt Campbell and he'll give you a good
ten plus years as the cyclone head coach. Meanwhile, in Nebraska,
a pretty interesting development. Nebraska fires offensive line coach Donovan Riola.
And if this isn't Dylan Riola getting in the transfer
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portal and have that written, I don't know that we
haven't heard that. But with Dayton Riyola de committing from Nebraska,
which was somewhat surprising. He didn't have a ton of
other D one offers. But he de commits from Nebraska.
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He's like, okay, so he doesn't even want to come
beyond the team. Okay, we immediately started kind of the
speculation there, like, is Dylan looking elsewhere now he broke
his fibula, miss last third of the season essentially and
obviously won't play in the ball game. But now that
his uncle who was on the staff and was on
the staff before Matt Rule got here, now that he's gone,
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I think the riding is obviously on the wall. So ah,
what do you think? And do we care? I mean,
at this point this is in this I don't mean
this to be a slight. I'm not one hundred percent
sure that there's you know, I wonder if we were
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just kind of also a little disappointed that the rule
Dylan Ryola partnership didn't result in were on the field success.
We were going the right direction when he got hurt
in the USC game. Let's just if you wanted to
play Devil's advocate, maybe we come back, can win that game.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I don't know if that was going to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And then the way that we lost at Penn State
and Iowa and home against Iowa, those would be the
to me, I don't know if you're gonna come dealan
rye Old with participation is gonna change that much to
exactly how that went down. We got blowed out by
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Minnesota in a very similar fashion with Dylan playing. So
are we ready for the next chapter? In this age
of college football, you can't get attached to these guys,
I guess, is my my greater point.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, everyone moves around so much. And I think if
you take the Ryola last name away and you just
judge him on his job this season, strictly for what
he did, you could argue that maybe the offensive line
did underperform, and Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
The offensive I think, don't. I don't know if anybody
disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I mean, I know that they did experience a lot
of injury problems all season at nagged the offensive line.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
But also, you.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Know, Jim Rose said quite a bit too that you
could argue Riola was creating his own sacks by not
giving the ball up or trying to too long. Yeah,
you take the last name away, and maybe you say
you can justify the firing. You know what he You know,
offensive line underperformed. But I will say because of the
last name, it stirs the pot quite a bit. He
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asks a lot of questions. It makes you think, It
makes you wonder, and Matt rules got to start, he's
got to start moving. I mean, three years in we're
going to the We're going to Las Vegas to play
in that Bowl game, and you know, cool, it'll be
a fun trip.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
But where are we going next?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
But we could get throttled in Las Vegas too.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Utah is good to a number fifteen team, Utah, we
could get throttled, yeah, But I mean it doesn't matter,
and I don't you like to win the game, of course,
no doubt. I'm not gonna put a ton of stock
in bowl games nowadays, just because I have no idea
who's playing in them.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I have no idea how many guys from you Utah
are going to sit it out because they're going to
the pros. I have no idea how many guys from
both teams are going to be in the transfer portal.
What I know is that they got a really stable
coaching staff, and they are really good, and they usually
are competing at the top of their conference, whatever that
conference is now it's the Big Twelve. And they're one
of the first teams that missed the playoff this year,
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behind BYU and some SEC teams. And then you look
at next year. Matt Rules got to be building the
foundation for next year. If you're a Husker fan, I
don't know if eight wins is the number anymore, like
I think you gotta be thinking nine to ten. I
want to be in the conversation of the playoff going
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into the last couple weeks. We have to get to
that point. I need to see little numbers next to
Nebraska's name when we're playing marquee games.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
We need to be talked about like that.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
And as much as it was fun at the beginning
of this season, first half of the season started like
five to one or whatever, it felt like we were
getting there and then we didn't get there. So that's
what has to happen now. And the offensive line is
a huge part of that. And if you don't think
Donovan Royla is the guy that can coach that unit
to that level, or you already knew that Dylan Roola
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was probably going to transfer, because what else would you
need Donovan Royola for if you were keeping them on
the staff to try to make Dylan happy. Well, if
Dylan's already thinking about going somewhere else, that makes your
decision easier. We need to completely revamp how we're doing
the offensive line and who's coaching them, and so yeah,
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it was a notable firing, but it's also you have
no more time. If you're Matt Rule and we don't
make a bowl game next year, that is we're going
the wrong way. Even if for six and six, seven
and five next year, that's no progress.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
No progress.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
You gotta I think, and I think you got to skip.
Like I think this year was the eight win thing.
You had to get to eight and then we can
get into that ten talk. But we're not there. It
doesn't look like we're there. You have to start really
trying some different stuff. So we get there, and we
gave him this huge extension because we wanted.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Him to stay. We didn't want him to get poached
by Penn State.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Well, now the athletic Department's got to put every possible
resource behind there. Learned today that the NIL collective, the
eighteen ninety collective gone, it's out. All the NIL funds
are now going to be operated in the house by Nebraska,
and that's a lot of school's doing that that way.
But it is a huge deal to get everything lined
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up because you have to be good next year. You
have to take the next step people already are getting
a little bit antsy with the way the season ended
those last two games. You got a chance to try
to fix it with this Bowl game a little tiny bit,
but next year it has to be a significant step forward.
Iowa stateman's basketball knocking off Purdue, that's pretty important. It's
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a big, pretty big deal. Did you you see that
Purdue is number one in the country? Iowa State? Then
I didn't see that, but it won by twenty three
at Purdue. It's tied for the largest win over a
number one team when the number one team was at home.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
So that's a blowout. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, And I mean it was the day after all
the Matt Campbell stuff happened, so the I would say
fan base needed that.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Basketball. Though.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
You can lose a game like that and you can
still be forgiven throughout the year. They'll be fine, assuming
that Purdue will Yeah, yeah, Perdue.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Will be fine.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
But Iowa State, I mean men's basketball doing some heavy
lifting to try to make sure.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
There's been some good basketball that's come out of Iowa
State over the years.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And George Niang, yep, and uh, it's one of the things, man,
that basketball program they're a basketball school, yes exactly, And
that's one of the reasons why I think people you're
gonna have to understand Nebraska's big enough and has enough funds,
They're in the right conference, they have all of the
resources that they need. They they can try to be
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good in both and wrestling plus wrestling plus volleyball right like,
they have resources to be like to have those sports
and to be competitive in them. Basketball hasn't quite gotten
where they want it to be yet, but football is
still a Everybody wants football to be good at Iowa State.
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But I think if you ask a bunch of Iowa
State fans what you'd rather have right now, I think
they would say, put more resources into basketball. We're close,
Like we could win a national championship in basketball. Not
sure even if Iowa State puent all in, could they
realistically on the field beat these SEC and Big ten
schools that they would have to run into in the playoff.
Making the playoff would be kind of the goal, right Well,
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there's expanded playoff talks going to fourteen to sixteen, maybe
even twenty four down the line, which I think is
the eventual answer is just to do that and get riddle.
All these bowl games and nobody cares about Iowa State,
one of several teams that declined bowl invitations for one
reason or another. Creates, you know, a little bit of
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urgency that hey, maybe basketball and wrestling are the sports
we need to Iowa State number four this week in
back in men's basketball, they're number ten in women's basketball,
and they are number like and there's top five in wrestling.
They just beat Iowa for the first time in twenty
years in a wrestling duel.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
So yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I had another email come in said, if you think
that we can turn our schedule around, take a look
at the schedule next year for football, because I said,
you really need to get to ten wins.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I have it here.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Here's here's the three non cons are Ohio, Bowling Green,
and North Dakota. North Dakota a good playoff team from FCS.
But you'd think that you're going to handle that. You're
paying all three of those schools to come play you
in in Lincoln, So those are by games. You're putting
money into teams to have them come and play you.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
So cool.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
The conference schedule looks like this, and we don't have
dates or anything. But they got Maryland who you know,
we had to come from behind and win on the
last minute drive. Washington who quality team. Jed fish is
you know made them quality after being in the national
title a couple of years ago. Illinois was ranked for
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a good chunk of the season. Michigan State is not
going to be They're going to be rebuilding, retooling. Rutgers
hard to know what Rutgers will look like. They have
stability at head coach, but they stumbled down the stretch
after a good start this year. And then Iowa, Okay,
we know we have trouble with that team. That ink
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Kirk Ferance will be back. I don't know who played
quarterback for them, but we have trouble. No matter who's
playing it, it's Iowa. Yeah, it's going to be it's
gonna be a match. And then we have Oregon, Ohio State,
and India the three Big ten playoff teams who are
all in the top five. So yeah, if you're thinking like,
what does that look like, what's the next step, ladies
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and gentlemen, Yeah, I'm still gonna say nine ten wins
has to happen if you want to feel like we're
making progress.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Nine.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Ten wins has to be the goal next year. And
I don't care that Indiana's number one. I don't care
that Ohio State's number two. I don't care that Oregon
number five. I don't care that Iowa always beats Nebraska.
I don't care. I don't care that some of these
games are on the road. The only one of those
three we get Ohio State and Indiana here we have
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to go to Eugene, Oregon, and we would have to
go to Iowa City. I don't care. I just don't care.
At some point we have to win. And then if
you get your your lunch handed to you by these teams,
like maybe we think that could happen to us next year.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
What are we doing here? What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Unless Freddie Heiberg gets the Nebraska Cornhuskers to the Sweet
sixteen and men's basketball or Nebraska wins a you know,
national championship or two in wrestling, women's basketball makes a run.
I don't know what it takes, but you cannot distract
Big Red Nation from this football program not getting to
(16:40):
the next step. And you're giving Matt Rule a lot
of money to get to the next step. So what
will it take I don't care what it takes. You
have any in Ohio state here if they give you
your lunch in Lincoln, what are we talking about? If
you can't go to Iowa, you can't go to Oregon,
you can't go to Illinois, you can't go to Rutgers,
(17:03):
and you can't find a way to win a few
of those games, what are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Are we still Nebraska? I thought we were.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
You know, I know we're not in Nebraska of nineteen
ninety four, but we're in Nebraska.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
And if you think that.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
People still care like they generally do, and you have
this sellout streak you're super proud of, we're gonna have
to start seeing it on the field. Seven and five
in the regular season isn't going to cut it. I
do not care who's on your schedule. You're paying Matt
Rule to compete and try to beat these teams. These
are the teams you have to beat to get where
you want to go. If you can't find a way
(17:43):
to get a win against some of these ranked teams,
these good teams, then what.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Are we talking about.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I have this guy I posted on Twitter about this
Iowa state debacle and the fact that we're gonna not
play in a ball game and all that stuff. I say,
we I'm still in Iowan, you know, I still cheer
for Iowa State from afar. Could you imagine not playing
in the bowl game.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
That was a common trend of this weekend. There was
a few teams that did it them. Iowa State didn't,
Kansas State didn't. So the curse of the Ireland Game,
the Week zero Ireland game continues. We didn't know that
they both eventually were Bowl eligible, which that's the first
time that's happened where both teams that played in Ireland
both became Bowl eligible. But both teams had a very
(18:30):
disappointing season as it relates to.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
The UH.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
As it relates to their overall record. Both teams thought
they were going to be in the conversation for Big
twelve Championship. That did not happen. And then, of course,
both teams lost their head coaches. Chris Climbing for Kansas
State retired and Matt Campbell left to go to Penn State.
Both teams in a complete matter of flux. Maybe it's
also the curse of the Pop Tarts Bowl. We played
(18:59):
two Pop Tarts Bowl at the end of the season
two years ago, it was Kansas State who won, and
Iowa State won last year, and look they got sent
to Ireland for a game, and now look at them
in shambles. Notre Dame first team out of the College
Football Playoff. They did not include them in the playoff.
They said no to a bowl game. Now, they don't
(19:19):
have any excuse of that than the fact that there's
like that we think we're too good for a regular
bowl game.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
For Iowa State to back out of a ball game,
I get it, no head coach, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Like players voted on it because and they have to
both those Kidsas State and Iowa State. They have to
pay the big twelve five hundred thousand dollars in a
fine basically for not playing that game. That tells you
that these teams are both going to have a ton
of guys in the portal and they don't have anybodyself. Yeah,
and you don't have anybody to coach the game. So
is it ideal? No, But that's the calendar that we
(19:51):
talk about it, we complain about it. You know, it's
just like transfer portal opens, got to get in it.
Coach gets a job off for somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Gotta take it. That's just the reality.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Then we go to Notre Dame and this one, and
it might be a little too critical. I just feel
like it's kind of the sorry way out.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
It's soft.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
You don't get what you want, and I'm just gonna
I'm gonna take my ball and I'm gonna go home.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Now you don't get Notre Dame in a ball game, now,
congratulations made us angry.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm sad that I'm upset that we didn't get in.
So I'm gonna take my ball and go home. And
not playing a bowl game. Well, how about you get
in a conference and then maybe you can get it
and get some votes or have a chance.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Maybe you play some some tough games.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Well, instantly, the reason they got left out was because
they played Miami and Miami beat them lost in a
head to head.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
And I don't know why Miami wasn't ranked ahead of
them in the first place. Because of that, the Miami
had been ranked behind them for a few weeks.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
And it was just like one or two spots every time,
or you know, it was within reach.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
But they just never thought to do that until this week.
And I think maybe it's because the acc didn't have
a team after their conference champion ended up being eight
and five Duke who's not ranked and shouldn't be ranked.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
It's a mess.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Bottom line is, it's sad to see that this is
where college sports is going. And I have no idea
who's going to be playing for Nebraska or Utah in
their bowl game. Iowa gets to go play in Tampa
at the relya Quest Bowl, the Old Outback Bowl, and
they play Vanderbilt. That should be a pretty high level game.
(21:23):
There's a chance the Heisman winner is the quarterback for Vanderbilt.
I don't know who he's going to play. I don't
know who's playing for both teams. They don't mean what
they used to meet because we have this playoff now,
and that's fine. I'd rather, you know, let's decide the
national championship on the field.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
That's fine with me.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Let's stop kidding ourselves that these are are super important.
I don't know what that takes. I mean, am I
excited to see Nebraska play in Vegas? So there are
a ton of Husker fans listening that are going to
go to Vegas and watch the game. Yeah, have fun,
It'll be a great time. You get to as a
football game party basically what it is. There's no real
(22:02):
stakes on the game itself, so you know, enjoy yourself,
have some fun. I have people on my Twitter that
basically are like, well, we need to give more in
IL because that's why are in IL. And he's talking
about Iowa State or in IL is low compared to
some others and we're not able to get winning talent.
(22:24):
It's like, brother, I have how much money do you
want me to give. I'm supposed to buy tickets to
support the team and go to games. I'm supposed to
buy merch. I'm supposed to travel and support the team
when they go and play places. I'm supposed to have
(22:44):
all you know, like any time that they do like
a fundraiser or one of those big athletic department events
where you can like give money to the athletic department.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
You know, all the big schools.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Do stuff like that, and you know you get to
meet players and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Like have brock Purty cut a check.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, you have all that stuff. I'm supposed to I'm
supposed to do that. I'm supposed to you know, go
to those things and you know, buy silent auction items
that are, you know, signed helmet or something.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Great, And now I got to give more because this
athletic department that's already making tens of millions of dollars
a year in media rights deals and is paying their
coaches and their players millions and millions of dollars, Like
that's not enough. It's not enough to make them competitive
and keep the coach. And then when the coach decides
to leave, I don't get to say, I don't get
a chance to talk him into staying. My money just
(23:36):
keeps going into the general fund of the athletic department.
And I have no I have no control over who
we hire. I have no control over anything. You have
to be a big money donor to be able to
have a say in some of that stuff, and even
then you're not one hundred percent assured of it. This
is why I gravitate toward professional sports a lot of
(23:56):
the time, and I enjoy professional sports.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
You know why.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
They don't need my money to exist and to be competitive.
They're not gonna if they're not asking me for more money.
How much more money can I give you? I got
a car payment, I got a mortgage, I'm still paying
my own student loans, my my little Diddley's college back
(24:22):
in small town Iowa. It's still taking money from me.
I'm in my thirdays and you want more money from me.
You need more money from me. I'm sorry, I can't.
I can't help you. What do you want from me?
How is it my fault? What am I supposed to do?
(24:43):
You want me to be the guy. That's not how
it works. You get millions of dollars to figure this
stuff out. Quit asking me for money. Hey, my lawnmower
might break tomorrow. I might need to buy a one
of those the hundreds of dollars you're asking me to
give a general fund to make my college football team good.
(25:07):
I could use that for stuff that I actually know
is going to be there for me. You know, when
I buy that Aaron snowblower from van Wall Equipment, you're
gonna try. You're gonna try the stronger on me of
giving you that money. Instead, the snowblower is not going anywhere.
That seems like a better investment.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Maybe maybe I'm looking at this too cynically. Maybe I
need to embrace the new age of college athletics. But man,
I can tell how you'd be very disenfranchised trying to
in any way, shape or form, be invested into a
program like this financially when you're just a bum like
me who just wants to cheer on a winning program.
(25:55):
The people that are the big money donors, do what
you want with your money.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I'll put your name on the field. They'll you know,
I will give you a skybox. You get a chance
to like make memories and all that stuff. Congratulations, knock
yourself out, go for it. But for people like me,
you're telling me us giving is the only way we're
going to compete. You're asking the wrong person. I'm sorry.
(26:22):
How much was Miller South playing those kids?
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Like?
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Maybe we can ask them how they were able to
make it work?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
That was funny. That was funny.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Well, is that not what happened? They're not giving those kids.
I'm just I'm joshing or am I just joining us
to break all of it down. As our Husker insider
Sean Callahan, Sewan, thank you so much for being back
on the show today.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Yeah, good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
All right, First.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Things first, the I want to talk about the coaching situation,
coaching carousel, obviously as a an Iowa State guy watching
the Matt Campbell thing unfold and then all of the
chatter on line in the message boards, very much like
angry at the athletic director Jamie Pollard for his handling
(27:07):
of NIL, thinking that him wanting to have all the
control for the entire athletic department and not let the
coaches kind of have control over how NIL was spent.
That was one of the things that drove Matt Campbell
out the door. I know you are very up on
this and how Nebraska is handling that sort of thing.
And the news today came, you know, with the collective
(27:27):
kind of going all underneath Nebraska's athletic department instead of
kind of having a separate collective. How do you best
tell people how this nil and revenue sharing situation is
structured and how it works so we can have a
better grasp of it.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Yeah, So the collective eighteen ninety Nebraska, I mean, the
last three four years it's saved Nebraska. But now the
model has shifted. What eighteen ninety Nebraska was doing as
far as collecting money writing out agreements in order to
pay the athletes was pay for play, and that form
(28:05):
of NIL is no longer allowed. There's a revenue share era.
So you know, the football program, for example, will roughly
have you know, fifteen sixteen million dollars from their revenue
share PI to pay football and that's more than ever
what like the collectives would have drawn up. And I
(28:25):
know you hear things out there. It is a little
confusing because of the way front loading and high school
payments began triculating in Well, all that's going away moving
forward the new NIL rules. You can no longer circumate
get around the salary cap by paying high school players
in advance. You can't frontload anymore because the rules are
(28:47):
in place. You know, there's just so many more rules
where the advantage is obviously being fully funded by revenue share.
But this kind of fell through the cracks on Friday's
boarder regent meetings. So much has talked about it, but
obviously about the programs being cut. But there was a
huge nil change. Their regents agreed to Playfly, which owns
the multimedia rights Nebraska. I think it roughly pays Nebraska
(29:10):
fourteen fifteen million dollars a year for these rights. Well
nine million dollars of that now is going to be
reallocated to be utilized for nil payments where they can
create multimedia marketing agreements. So when you hear Matt Rule
talking about twenty five million dollars, this is how they
get there. There'll be sixteen million or so coming from
(29:35):
the rev share, another nine million that could be there
from the multimedia money, which is the play fi money.
So Nebraska is going to have to reallocate just some
of that money, but all that would be legal, and
you know that's where you want to be. I mean,
Lane Kippen his ask when he went to LSU he
met with Florida and some other his asient Jimmy Section
(29:56):
said we need twenty five million. Well, Nebraska has the
twenty five million. So there's this notion we're not where
we need to be. Here they are, they have it all.
They're set up for the future. We're still kind of
shifting through the old school way, but this is the
new way now where you need to be fully funded
by revenue share and then create the most legal, clean,
clean way, which is through your multimedia rights partner to
(30:18):
execute the additional monies. You need to be competitive in
football and obviously not break the rules which you know,
if you sign this agreement, they have subpoena power. They
can check your phones and do things that you know
to prove you know, if there's something going wrong, your
head coach can be suspended now for like three or
four games. I mean, there's a lot of stiff penalties
(30:40):
moving forward that you know, we'll see if it all happens.
But that's that's how that's where it's supposed.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
To be heading Sean Callahan with us today, it's kind
of like instead of you know, all of these recruiting
violations that you see, they're still rules, but they're not
nearly what they once were. Now it's all the money
rules and how you're able to spend your money and
how it's allocated. With that being said, one of the
big prizes over the last couple of years for Nebraska
(31:05):
has been the five star quarterback Dylan Royola, who played
basically a year and two thirds of a season as
the starting quarterback until he broke his fibula in the
home game against USC this year, and there's just been
a lot of smoke around his future as a Husker,
and that got a little cloudier over the weekend with
(31:26):
the announcement that Donovan Roola, his uncle who's been on
the staff even before Matt Rule got to Lincoln. Mean,
obviously the relation to Dominic Royolho's an all time Husker.
He has been fired. He's no longer going to be
the offensive line coach moving forward. This comes on the
heels of Dylan's younger brother, Dayton Royola de committing from
Nebraska a few weeks ago. What can you tell us
(31:49):
about the move away from Donovan Roolas the offensive line
coach and what that means on the field, but also
what it means for the future of Dylan Roola as
the quarterback of the Huskers.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
Well, I think they're connected, but I don't think they're
as connected as you might think, because they're just two
separate things. I mean, I don't know, for example, Dominic
and Donovan how close they were throughout the year. I
don't think their relationship maybe was as close as you
might think for being two brothers. And it's understandable. I mean,
(32:19):
the offensive line had a couple of games this year
that completely changed the season. They gave up seven sacks
against Michigan it could have been actually worse, and they
gave up nine against Minnesota. You can argue that those
two moments with the O line, along with the O
line sack against USC where Dylan Rollo was hurt, we're
kind of the changing points of the season. So I
(32:42):
don't think anybody should be like too surprised that Matt
Rule made a move because things just probably weren't progressing
at the rate they need to be for a year four.
That was supposed to be your strongest position, and he
did what he had to do. And then Dylan Ralla
is still on this team, and you know he's moving
(33:02):
forward as a member of this team, going to his
rehab and Lincoln, So nothing's changed with him right now.
I know everyone thinks something kind of connects the dots,
but things remain very status quo. And that's coming from
pretty direct sources. Right now. I can tell you that
like now, could it change on a dime, absolutely, and
it could change with one phone call, But as of
(33:23):
right now, I don't think any of those phone calls
are coming in because A he's hurt and b he
carries a hell of a price tag. I mean, so,
if you know, there's just a lot of things about
Dylan now, if there are teams that would want to
poach him. You know, there are a lot of things
there that a team would have to look at too.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, that's a good point. The price tag in and
of itself. And has he produced to the level that
you were hoping for? And we talked about this earlier
in the show because and we talked about this when
he got hurt, we knew he was out for the season.
He certainly has great abilities. He certainly is a difference
maker at the quarterback position. But have we gotten everything
(34:02):
out of our investment financially but also our emotional investment
into him, knowing that he was a five star recruit
in one of the top quarterbacks of his class. Do
you think that if he were to leave and get
into the transfer portal and there was some other school
that was like, yeah, we definitely want to pocket passer
type like him. You know, Texas Tech comes to mind
(34:25):
potentially for the future. You know, like there was a
former Texas Tech guy that looks an awful lot like
Dylan Ryola physically that you know, who the heck knows.
But you know, you think about that, Let's say he's
out the door, what is his legacy with the two
years as the starting quarterback for the Huskers.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Well, yeah, I mean, he doesn't have a win over
a ranked opponent, but he's obviously got him to a
bowl game two years in a row, which in this
sample size, what the program has been is a success,
but obviously not the success that you would expect overall. Unfortunately.
You know, you look at some of the moments where
(35:04):
they could have got the win over USC and he
got hurt on that play, or even last year at
Ohio State that was such an opportunity. You had the
national champions I mean, guys, Ohole's Day won the National
championship and you're in their place, leading the game in
the fourth quarter late and you weren't able to capitalize
and kind of finish that game off and miss some throws.
(35:24):
But you know, he delivered some good moments this year.
I mean the Northwestern drive to win the game and
Maryland drive to win the game, and those are big
time drives. Just unfortunate they didn't happen in some of
the really meaningful games like Michigan or Iowa or USC
that you really kind of define a player's legacy on,
like this Bowl game against Utah, if he would if
(35:45):
you're able to get a win over a ten and
two Utah team, that would be the best win Nebraska
has had in a long time. So it is unfortunate
he never really delivered that type of moment, but he
still had plenty of you know, good moment home as
a Husker, just obviously not the big one that would
change the program.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
And this leads to the next point. We have a
bowl game that we're preparing for. You're trying to figure
out what the bull game means. It's going to be
a fun trip. Las Vegas is a great destination to
have a football game. You get to play a quality opponent.
We have no idea how many guys are or are
not playing. There are plenty of teams like Notre Dame,
Iowa State, Kansas State, who just said we're not playing
ball games for one reason or another. What How do
(36:26):
you best describe how important this game is? Knowing we
play Utah, knowing it's in a fun place, and knowing
that you're going to probably see thousands and thousands of
Husker fans still in the building.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Yeah, I think that's what helped Nebraska their fan base.
They jumped up a couple of spots in the pecking
or Illinois and Minnesota technically could have gone ahead of Nebraska,
but Nebraska want to had both of them because of
the program and the great history. And Nebraska is a
great West Coast team for traveling fans because you've got
(36:58):
such a large contingent in Phoenix, Vegas in California, and
that group of twenty to twenty five thousand fans will
always travel to all these games. And I'm sure it
will be the same in Vegas that you're going to get,
you know, a solid core of probably fifteen thousand plus
West Coasters out there, if not more, and then you're
(37:18):
going to get the other people that come from Nebraska.
So for a game that isn't really that meaningful in
the grand picture, it will still have a good contingent.
And the attendance record for the Vegas Bowl was back
in like six and it was forty four thousand. It
would not surprise me at all this game shatters that
record for that Bowl game. I mean last year they
(37:39):
only drew I believe it was twenty six thousand for
A and m USC. So it's not been a Bowl
that's drawn well. You would think it draw better because
it was always a West Coast team and you're playing
indoors now, But I would think this one's gonna draw
a very big number for what's not in the grand
scheme of things, a big picture bowl game.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt at all, Sean, We're gonna
obviously have a chance. Maybe a little bit later this week,
I want to talk a little bit about volleyball and
the impact that that program is having. And also this
basketball team, all of a sudden is really interesting, really intriguing.
They popped into the rankings this week and haven't lost yet.
They really handled Creighton. We'll have to break them down
a little bit later on, but I'm out of time
(38:19):
this time around. Sewan has always really do appreciate all
that you do for us, and they can't wait to
chat with you again soon real quick.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
Nebraska volleyball, Nebraska basketball men's and women combined fifty to
oh right now, think about that.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Fifty and oh yeah, that'll put a little shiver up
your spine. The volleyball volleyball team, you know, we're talking
national title or bust. The two basketball teams. You're kind
of like, well, you know, kind of do you want
to be tipping about your excitement, but it's hard not
to get super excited with what you're seeing right now.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Sean appreciate it. Man, thanks for being on the show.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
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