May 13, 2026 • 21 mins
"Mrs. Doubtfire" is now a musical Broadway production and is at The Orpheum in Omaha this week! Brian Kalinowski (who plays Frank Hillard) and DeVon Wycovia Buchanan (who plays Andre) join the podcast to talk about the show and what makes it such a different experience than seeing the movie.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
It is the Emry Soccer podcast on the free iHeartRadio
app and we thank you so much for joining us.
As always, I love talking about a lot of different
things that are happening in our community, and especially when
I get to see a great show at the Orphium
with our friends at Omaha Performing Arts. And joining us
are a couple of the stars of a show that
I wasn't really exactly sure how they were going to
(00:30):
turn this into a musical, but Missus Doubtfires in Town.
We have two of the stars here starring as Frank
Hillard Brian Kalanowski, Brian, welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
To the show.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Thank you so much, glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And then also as Andre, which comedic relief is a
broad term for this show because it feels like everybody
has a lot of comedy. But starring as Andre is
Devon Way Kovie of Buchanan.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Hello, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Absolutely, this is so great. You guys come on to
the stage and usually I have like a week of oh,
I know exactly who I'm talking to. Wasn't until a
few hours before I was like, oh, I we do
have an interview for Missus Outfire, and we were excited
to get that, and you guys got onto the stage
and I was immediately just like, Okay, I want to
(01:18):
see how this you know, this pair works with the story. Brian,
I'm gonna start with you. This is not a musical.
Anybody's seen Missus doutfire. This is not generally considered a musical.
So what is it like to be in a show
like this that has been taken from the big screen
to now a full on stage production with multiple, like
(01:40):
several musical layers to it.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Uh, well, it's great. I mean, it's I don't want
to say it's more fun than the movie, but it's
just a lot more fleshed out and a lot more exciting,
and you can really get to the heart in the
end of the show a lot more than the film,
just because you can go a little deeper. But also
just a lot more laughing out loud, you know. And
(02:04):
I was saying earlier, you know you're gonna laugh for
two and a half hours pretty much, because it's just NonStop.
There are some serious moments, and you know, there's a
beautiful power ballad and act too, but it's just great,
you know, to laugh for two and a half hours.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, I was thinking to myself when I sat down.
You know, I come in with an open mind. A
lot of the shows I know nothing about. This was
not that I knew exactly what this show was going
to be. So how is it going to get kind
of formulated into a musical? I'm always really fascinated by
that idea devon from the perspective of somebody. We were
(02:39):
talking before we got off the air. It's been you know,
you've been performing for a long time. Yes, what kind
of challenges did this show have maybe to you before
you audition and what made this such an appealing show
for you to want to be a part of?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Oh challenge as well?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
You know, I honestly don't think there was much challenge
for me in this role because Andre and I kindred spirits.
But it's just so nice to get that version of
a human being out into the world, which I do
love and I think it's the real Actually, the challenge
could possibly be how the reception would go on, and
(03:22):
lovely enough, we've had great receptions from everywhere we've been,
so it's yeah, that's just nice to see people welcome
Andrea and Frank with open arms.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah. So for those who haven't seen this production, you
guys are a couple and are in charge of transforming
Daniel from the goofy, weird, eccentric, too much for his
ex wife guy into this Scottish kind of plump and
(03:55):
very different individual that wants to be the nanny for
his children. Which, again, when you write this the premise down,
what an awesome premise for a movie in the first place,
But it turns out to be an awesome stage production
as well, comedic relief the comedy you talked to Brian,
this is a show you're gonna laugh throughout the production.
(04:17):
For your role, it just feels like when we first
meet you, we're trying to figure out, okay, so where's
this guy's personality going? And then every single time you're
back on the stage, it's just like people are predisposed
to laughing. How do you best describe what your role
as Frank is in how it kind of morphs as
(04:37):
the show goes on and you get further and further
wrapped up in Daniel's plot here.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Right, So my role is based off of the Harvey
Firestein part from the film, and you know, everybody Harvey
Firestein's known for the raspy you know, voice. His voice
is just so distinct. You can't really replicate that on
stage or as an actor. No one else has that voice,
So what are they going to do to give this
character their own spin? And so my character yells every
(05:06):
time he is lying, So of course he has put
in all of these situations where he has to lie,
and the stakes are so very high, and so it's
a lot of shouting, which is great because it's like
it's immediate laughter, right every time it happens, it's just hilarious.
So I've had to take care of my voice really well.
(05:29):
But anyway, it's just a great way to take something
from a film and put it on stage in such
a larger than life way that still honors the original movie,
but also is its own spin and its own joke.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
That just keeps going throughout the show and just gets
funnier and funnier throughout the show.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Frank shows up, and Frank and Andre are basically together
the entire time and play off each other very different personalities,
but you almost forget every time that Frank shows up
that there's the possibility that he's going to have to lie.
And when Frank lies and screams immediately people.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Like, oh, yeah, that's right, stops the guy that shouts
human detector.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, and every single person I think is laughing. By
the second act, when it continues to happen, it just
gets funnier every single time.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, because it has to keep going more and more.
And then if he gets the point where he's not
even shouting words, he's just shouting, he just doesn't know
what to do because he's so stressed out. Ah, it's great,
it's so much fun.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, so let's talk about Andre.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yes, Andre brings a very different energy to that dynamic
and doesn't doesn't have to yell all the time, but
certainly has a dynamic that Daniel needs to either a
ground him in this endeavor or be to you know, hey,
by the way, this could absolutely happen. What's wrong with you? Like,
(06:58):
what's messed up in your brain? Here? How do you
best describe Andre and the uncle?
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah, the show, Andrea is very much that one who
gets the opportunity to just remind with love. There's one
time where Andre does get a little frustrated an act too,
but but yeah, it's nice to be that reminder to
remind him why he's doing it. And if he should
be doing this also to be the one that grounds and.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Brings Frank back from the yelling tantrums. And you know,
I'm the glue.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Trying to hold it together while looking fabulous the costuming. Right,
this was the big question I had, How on earth
are you going to transform a man like Daniel Hillard
into Missus Doubtfire multiple times throughout a show and as
(07:52):
much as that's happening as fast as it needs to
happen can and I know within the story it is
Andre and Frank that are doing this, but in the
show there is no you have you have ten seconds
sometimes to make this magic a theater baby, So I
don't you don't need to spoil every single secret as
(08:14):
to the preparation here, but I think it'd be very
fascinating for people to hear exactly the engineering that really
has gone into this costume.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, so we help h Daniel on stage a few
times get in and out of the Missus doubt Fire costume.
So we have learned the ins and outs of you know,
how everything goes on, and it's really choreographed. Just like
the tap number is choreographed, the costume changes are choreographed.
And we are not helping him backstage. Obviously he has
(08:44):
a team of people. He has his own dresser who
follows him around. Nicole is amazing, And then every city
that we come to we get a different local person
whose job it is also to be with Nicole and
to do all of the doubt fire changes. And so
it's just very well choreographed. It's always the mask first,
then the wig, and then whatever the fat suit is,
(09:06):
you know, the bodysuit. Sometimes the bodysuit is already sewn
inside of the dress so that it all just goes
on as one piece.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Sometimes there's two different bodysuits.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, but there's also a certain way of putting the
mask on that you have that he really has to
focus on. There's a certain way that we have to
put the wigs on him, you know, wig care check
for last looks. Yeah, you don't want to touch the
lace a lot on a wig because it's going to
destroy it's going to like wear it away, So you
have to really be careful about that. And like that's
(09:38):
you know, in the end, like I'm picking up all
this stuff off the stage and you have to just
be really careful about these very expensive pieces of prosthetics
and costumes.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Well, the mask when I saw the first reveal is
a great moment in the movie and in the show. Yeah,
and I'm just assuming, well, he's stuck like that for
the next two hours, right. I was trying to count,
especially in like the second act. I think, Devon, maybe
(10:09):
you can correct me. There are at least a couple
dozen switches between the two, right, so for.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Well, yeah, I mean he he's thirty four, Yeah, in
and out a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Thirty four I've never counted.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I think thirty four thirty six. I want to say,
costume changes just for Daniel doutfire.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Wow, that's uh, You're not going to see that on
any other Broadway production, not anything.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
To see it right before your very eyes, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And then the reveal at the end when you know
his ex wife.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I'm not spoiling anything for anybody knows the story, but
it's you know, when it all kind of comes apart.
It does even then seem completely choreographed exactly how it
comes apart for him. So, Devon, I want to talk
about the music. This is a complete new element to
the show. Can you kind of explain from the cast perspective.
(11:07):
What that music does for a show like this, in
a story like this, Oh.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
It elevates it. It pushes the story forward. And we
have so many different genres of music in this show.
We go from disco to musical theater to rap and
him hop and we have like there's this one scene,
not to give it away, but this man is creating
everything on stage in real time and it's really interesting
(11:35):
to watch how it all gets put together and how
the beboxing happens because he does do that as well.
It just makes so much sense and they definitely put
in the time and the effort to make it all
makes sense and sit right within the show well.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
And the music does further the story, which sometimes especially
and there's already an existing text to something, yeah, and
then you're adding music. Sometimes that's a challenge to get
the music to help tell the story. You're just putting
songs in because songs should be here. So how do you?
I mean? Devonman did a great job of talking about
(12:16):
the genre changes that happen, because it really does not
fit into one singular style of music, but it does.
There are multiple moments, whether it's for comedy or for
the drama of the story. The music does a powerful
job in telling that, and dance I think has a
lot to do with it as well. There's an incredible
(12:37):
tap number in this show. So what can you talk
about the choreography and the type of talent that is
kind of needed for a show like this that you
wouldn't otherwise expect.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, well, luckily I'm not in the top number. But
the top number is one of my favorite parts of
the show. I love to watch it off stage. It's
so exciting and there are so many different surprises within
that number. But also I also love the number that
we're in, the very discoing number called make Me a Woman,
And yeah, it pushes the story forward. You begin the
(13:10):
song where he's begging them to make him into a woman,
and by the end of the song he is missus
doubtfire and you get to see I mean, it's the
iconic scene from the film where they're doing all of
the different you know, that montage of all of the
different characters where we have our own way of I mean, brilliant,
how they figured it out, how to do this, how
(13:31):
to make that so effectively into this song, which is
very different from how they do it in the film,
but still keeping that same heart and the same excitement.
It is just such an exciting song. For other people,
it's their favorite part of the show. I'm not gonna
say it's not my. Well, it's not my favorite part
of the show. It's my most difficult part of the show.
(13:53):
You are It's a lot of focus, and not just.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
The performance aspect, but just the props that are interchangeable throughout.
Is your eyes as a viewer are just darting all
over the stage, and those are the fun The most
fun I think is a person in the audience is
just like you can't You don't get time to just
like sit there and sink into maybe a singular character
(14:17):
on the stage. It really feels like there's something new
coming onto the stage, like every couple of seconds that
you have to follow. I want to talk about the costumes.
You guys where devon. I know that this whole show
is in a lot of ways about costumes and about
how people present themselves, and this goes all the way
(14:40):
down to the kids that are on stage as well.
But the excitement of just what is being war on
the stage. When you guys show up, you can tell Okay,
these are the fashion experts here. Then it really sells it.
Talk about what you guys get to wear on the stage.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Gosh, oh gosh, I came, but yeah, we get to
wear so many great caues. I get this amazing fur coat,
leather pants, knee high boots, a lot of gold jewelry, accessories.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Obsessed.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I got to hang out with the costume designer and
he asked me what my favorite boutique was and got
like personal like little trinkets from the boutique that I
get to wear on stage and sometimes I could bring
in my own little jewelry and whatnot, which is fun.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
It's it's chic, it's it's.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Exaggerated, it's drag in a sense, and yeah, you'll love them.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And this one gets to look like a my boss
every day.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
My boss, and not in any way in real life
a fashionista. I dress simply and let my personality be
the star. As Mary Testa one said, uh so it's
great to wear these designer clothes and these you know.
I'm like, wow, I should do this more in.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
My real life.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Actually, yesterday I did have a conversation with our wardrobe supervisor.
I was like, I want to buy a chain like
this for myself.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I do that.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Can I wear it in the you know anyway?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
But I love the fact I love it, and I'm
going to implement it in my own life.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
He's taking a little andre with us.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, you know, I watch shows and I too. Also,
you know, maybe if I didn't wear jeans and hoodies
every day, if I if I added to my my
outfit budget, I'd love to look like some of these
people the way to.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
A little painful.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
They can be the last thing. It takes such an
insane amount of talent for anybody to be a part
of a production, and this show in particular, who's going
to be Robin Williams. That's the first thing that you
think is especially it's a movie, so you can reshoot,
you can recut. That's not something you can do in
(16:54):
a stage production. So what can you say about not
just the star of the show, but the wife essentially
has to be the straight woman of the entire cast
the entire time, not a lot of jokes, kind of
has to settle everything down. It's like, this is not
that funny, this is annoying, and it's ruining my life.
And then you have children that have to be on
(17:17):
the stage a lot in this show, and they were
amazing when they like last night, during the program. I
know there's a couple of roles that are shared between
a couple of kids for the entirety of the week,
but the kids that I got to see last night
were unbelievable. So I'll let you both kind of just
talk about the talent of this cast as a whole
(17:38):
and why people should come see this show.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, well Melissa Gosh, she's amazing as Miranda. I just
nicknamed her yesterday Sensible Sally Fields. But yeah, like just
the way she emotes and that eleven o'clock number that
she does ballot at the end of the show, It's
dealt with such raw emotion and just you can definitely
(18:01):
tell it comes from the depths. She's really trying to
get through the show and keep things on track. But
and the kids are they's just hilarious.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well, it's hilarious.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Sometimes we got a rainom Man stage. Yeah, but just
like the things that come out of kids. You know
what's that's that's that TV show that used to be
on the Darnest Things every day.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
You'd rather have that problem then than be you know,
plammed up the whole time.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, for sure, it's never boring moment.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
You gotta love that though from your perspective, Brian, what
about this cast?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, the talent is crazy. I mean every single person
who's on that stage has worked their whole life for this, right,
so you know, the talent is incredible. Craig, who plays Daniel,
is perfect for the role. It is hard to like say, oh,
we have to get somebody to be like Robin Williams
or to replace Robin Williams, and you're never gonna find
(18:59):
another Rob Williams. They're just never gonna happen. So the
way that they wrote this musical, they did allow for
someone to make it their own, and so he did
get to figure out his own impersonations that he was
gonna do. We have another person who goes on. Chaz
Ingram is the understudy, but he does two shows a
week every week because it's such a demanding part. Craig
(19:21):
cannot no human can do eight shows of this a week.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And the lines and you can tell there's some improvisation
every single night that he's got to be thinking about
when he's up there.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, and so, but Chaz also has his own set
of impersonations that he does that he puts on and
his own spin that he puts on the character. And
Craig as well. Like it was kind of like, you know,
they built all of this, they allowed for that, luckily
that improvisation, and it's different with both of them. We
play the same show, but with two different Daniels, and
(19:58):
it's different shows every time.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Well, I can say this as somebody who saw the show.
You gotta see the show, especially if you know the movie,
because you're gonna be fascinated like I was, as to
how you tell the story and the music I had
no expectation for. I was really excited. Every single time
a song would start, I had oh wow. I didn't
expect this sound. I didn't expect this to be happening.
(20:21):
I didn't expect the disco number.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Because sometimes you see a show and you're like another song.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, and they sound the same. There are no two
songs alike in this show, which is amazing. Missus Doubtfire
at the Orpheum through the weekend. Go to ticket Omaha
dot com to get your tickets. Brian Kalinowski playing Frank
Hillard and Devon Wakovia Buchanan playing Andre. Thank you both
(20:46):
so much for being here today.
It is the Emry Soccer podcast on the free iHeartRadio
app and we thank you so much for joining us.
As always, I love talking about a lot of different
things that are happening in our community, and especially when
I get to see a great show at the Orphium
with our friends at Omaha Performing Arts. And joining us
are a couple of the stars of a show that
I wasn't really exactly sure how they were going to
(00:30):
turn this into a musical, but Missus Doubtfires in Town.
We have two of the stars here starring as Frank
Hillard Brian Kalanowski, Brian, welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
To the show.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Thank you so much, glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And then also as Andre, which comedic relief is a
broad term for this show because it feels like everybody
has a lot of comedy. But starring as Andre is
Devon Way Kovie of Buchanan.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Hello, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Absolutely, this is so great. You guys come on to
the stage and usually I have like a week of oh,
I know exactly who I'm talking to. Wasn't until a
few hours before I was like, oh, I we do
have an interview for Missus Outfire, and we were excited
to get that, and you guys got onto the stage
and I was immediately just like, Okay, I want to
(01:18):
see how this you know, this pair works with the story. Brian,
I'm gonna start with you. This is not a musical.
Anybody's seen Missus doutfire. This is not generally considered a musical.
So what is it like to be in a show
like this that has been taken from the big screen
to now a full on stage production with multiple, like
(01:40):
several musical layers to it.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Uh, well, it's great. I mean, it's I don't want
to say it's more fun than the movie, but it's
just a lot more fleshed out and a lot more exciting,
and you can really get to the heart in the
end of the show a lot more than the film,
just because you can go a little deeper. But also
just a lot more laughing out loud, you know. And
(02:04):
I was saying earlier, you know you're gonna laugh for
two and a half hours pretty much, because it's just NonStop.
There are some serious moments, and you know, there's a
beautiful power ballad and act too, but it's just great,
you know, to laugh for two and a half hours.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, I was thinking to myself when I sat down.
You know, I come in with an open mind. A
lot of the shows I know nothing about. This was
not that I knew exactly what this show was going
to be. So how is it going to get kind
of formulated into a musical? I'm always really fascinated by
that idea devon from the perspective of somebody. We were
(02:39):
talking before we got off the air. It's been you know,
you've been performing for a long time. Yes, what kind
of challenges did this show have maybe to you before
you audition and what made this such an appealing show
for you to want to be a part of?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Oh challenge as well?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
You know, I honestly don't think there was much challenge
for me in this role because Andre and I kindred spirits.
But it's just so nice to get that version of
a human being out into the world, which I do
love and I think it's the real Actually, the challenge
could possibly be how the reception would go on, and
(03:22):
lovely enough, we've had great receptions from everywhere we've been,
so it's yeah, that's just nice to see people welcome
Andrea and Frank with open arms.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah. So for those who haven't seen this production, you
guys are a couple and are in charge of transforming
Daniel from the goofy, weird, eccentric, too much for his
ex wife guy into this Scottish kind of plump and
(03:55):
very different individual that wants to be the nanny for
his children. Which, again, when you write this the premise down,
what an awesome premise for a movie in the first place,
But it turns out to be an awesome stage production
as well, comedic relief the comedy you talked to Brian,
this is a show you're gonna laugh throughout the production.
(04:17):
For your role, it just feels like when we first
meet you, we're trying to figure out, okay, so where's
this guy's personality going? And then every single time you're
back on the stage, it's just like people are predisposed
to laughing. How do you best describe what your role
as Frank is in how it kind of morphs as
(04:37):
the show goes on and you get further and further
wrapped up in Daniel's plot here.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Right, So my role is based off of the Harvey
Firestein part from the film, and you know, everybody Harvey
Firestein's known for the raspy you know, voice. His voice
is just so distinct. You can't really replicate that on
stage or as an actor. No one else has that voice,
So what are they going to do to give this
character their own spin? And so my character yells every
(05:06):
time he is lying, So of course he has put
in all of these situations where he has to lie,
and the stakes are so very high, and so it's
a lot of shouting, which is great because it's like
it's immediate laughter, right every time it happens, it's just hilarious.
So I've had to take care of my voice really well.
(05:29):
But anyway, it's just a great way to take something
from a film and put it on stage in such
a larger than life way that still honors the original movie,
but also is its own spin and its own joke.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
That just keeps going throughout the show and just gets
funnier and funnier throughout the show.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Frank shows up, and Frank and Andre are basically together
the entire time and play off each other very different personalities,
but you almost forget every time that Frank shows up
that there's the possibility that he's going to have to lie.
And when Frank lies and screams immediately people.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Like, oh, yeah, that's right, stops the guy that shouts
human detector.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, and every single person I think is laughing. By
the second act, when it continues to happen, it just
gets funnier every single time.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, because it has to keep going more and more.
And then if he gets the point where he's not
even shouting words, he's just shouting, he just doesn't know
what to do because he's so stressed out. Ah, it's great,
it's so much fun.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, so let's talk about Andre.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yes, Andre brings a very different energy to that dynamic
and doesn't doesn't have to yell all the time, but
certainly has a dynamic that Daniel needs to either a
ground him in this endeavor or be to you know, hey,
by the way, this could absolutely happen. What's wrong with you? Like,
(06:58):
what's messed up in your brain? Here? How do you
best describe Andre and the uncle?
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah, the show, Andrea is very much that one who
gets the opportunity to just remind with love. There's one
time where Andre does get a little frustrated an act too,
but but yeah, it's nice to be that reminder to
remind him why he's doing it. And if he should
be doing this also to be the one that grounds and.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Brings Frank back from the yelling tantrums. And you know,
I'm the glue.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Trying to hold it together while looking fabulous the costuming. Right,
this was the big question I had, How on earth
are you going to transform a man like Daniel Hillard
into Missus Doubtfire multiple times throughout a show and as
(07:52):
much as that's happening as fast as it needs to
happen can and I know within the story it is
Andre and Frank that are doing this, but in the
show there is no you have you have ten seconds
sometimes to make this magic a theater baby, So I
don't you don't need to spoil every single secret as
(08:14):
to the preparation here, but I think it'd be very
fascinating for people to hear exactly the engineering that really
has gone into this costume.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, so we help h Daniel on stage a few
times get in and out of the Missus doubt Fire costume.
So we have learned the ins and outs of you know,
how everything goes on, and it's really choreographed. Just like
the tap number is choreographed, the costume changes are choreographed.
And we are not helping him backstage. Obviously he has
(08:44):
a team of people. He has his own dresser who
follows him around. Nicole is amazing, And then every city
that we come to we get a different local person
whose job it is also to be with Nicole and
to do all of the doubt fire changes. And so
it's just very well choreographed. It's always the mask first,
then the wig, and then whatever the fat suit is,
(09:06):
you know, the bodysuit. Sometimes the bodysuit is already sewn
inside of the dress so that it all just goes
on as one piece.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Sometimes there's two different bodysuits.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, but there's also a certain way of putting the
mask on that you have that he really has to
focus on. There's a certain way that we have to
put the wigs on him, you know, wig care check
for last looks. Yeah, you don't want to touch the
lace a lot on a wig because it's going to
destroy it's going to like wear it away, So you
have to really be careful about that. And like that's
(09:38):
you know, in the end, like I'm picking up all
this stuff off the stage and you have to just
be really careful about these very expensive pieces of prosthetics
and costumes.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Well, the mask when I saw the first reveal is
a great moment in the movie and in the show. Yeah,
and I'm just assuming, well, he's stuck like that for
the next two hours, right. I was trying to count,
especially in like the second act. I think, Devon, maybe
(10:09):
you can correct me. There are at least a couple
dozen switches between the two, right, so for.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Well, yeah, I mean he he's thirty four, Yeah, in
and out a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Thirty four I've never counted.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I think thirty four thirty six. I want to say,
costume changes just for Daniel doutfire.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Wow, that's uh, You're not going to see that on
any other Broadway production, not anything.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
To see it right before your very eyes, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And then the reveal at the end when you know
his ex wife.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I'm not spoiling anything for anybody knows the story, but
it's you know, when it all kind of comes apart.
It does even then seem completely choreographed exactly how it
comes apart for him. So, Devon, I want to talk
about the music. This is a complete new element to
the show. Can you kind of explain from the cast perspective.
(11:07):
What that music does for a show like this, in
a story like this, Oh.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
It elevates it. It pushes the story forward. And we
have so many different genres of music in this show.
We go from disco to musical theater to rap and
him hop and we have like there's this one scene,
not to give it away, but this man is creating
everything on stage in real time and it's really interesting
(11:35):
to watch how it all gets put together and how
the beboxing happens because he does do that as well.
It just makes so much sense and they definitely put
in the time and the effort to make it all
makes sense and sit right within the show well.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
And the music does further the story, which sometimes especially
and there's already an existing text to something, yeah, and
then you're adding music. Sometimes that's a challenge to get
the music to help tell the story. You're just putting
songs in because songs should be here. So how do you?
I mean? Devonman did a great job of talking about
(12:16):
the genre changes that happen, because it really does not
fit into one singular style of music, but it does.
There are multiple moments, whether it's for comedy or for
the drama of the story. The music does a powerful
job in telling that, and dance I think has a
lot to do with it as well. There's an incredible
(12:37):
tap number in this show. So what can you talk
about the choreography and the type of talent that is
kind of needed for a show like this that you
wouldn't otherwise expect.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, well, luckily I'm not in the top number. But
the top number is one of my favorite parts of
the show. I love to watch it off stage. It's
so exciting and there are so many different surprises within
that number. But also I also love the number that
we're in, the very discoing number called make Me a Woman,
And yeah, it pushes the story forward. You begin the
(13:10):
song where he's begging them to make him into a woman,
and by the end of the song he is missus
doubtfire and you get to see I mean, it's the
iconic scene from the film where they're doing all of
the different you know, that montage of all of the
different characters where we have our own way of I mean, brilliant,
how they figured it out, how to do this, how
(13:31):
to make that so effectively into this song, which is
very different from how they do it in the film,
but still keeping that same heart and the same excitement.
It is just such an exciting song. For other people,
it's their favorite part of the show. I'm not gonna
say it's not my. Well, it's not my favorite part
of the show. It's my most difficult part of the show.
(13:53):
You are It's a lot of focus, and not just.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
The performance aspect, but just the props that are interchangeable throughout.
Is your eyes as a viewer are just darting all
over the stage, and those are the fun The most
fun I think is a person in the audience is
just like you can't You don't get time to just
like sit there and sink into maybe a singular character
(14:17):
on the stage. It really feels like there's something new
coming onto the stage, like every couple of seconds that
you have to follow. I want to talk about the costumes.
You guys where devon. I know that this whole show
is in a lot of ways about costumes and about
how people present themselves, and this goes all the way
(14:40):
down to the kids that are on stage as well.
But the excitement of just what is being war on
the stage. When you guys show up, you can tell Okay,
these are the fashion experts here. Then it really sells it.
Talk about what you guys get to wear on the stage.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Gosh, oh gosh, I came, but yeah, we get to
wear so many great caues. I get this amazing fur coat,
leather pants, knee high boots, a lot of gold jewelry, accessories.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Obsessed.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I got to hang out with the costume designer and
he asked me what my favorite boutique was and got
like personal like little trinkets from the boutique that I
get to wear on stage and sometimes I could bring
in my own little jewelry and whatnot, which is fun.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
It's it's chic, it's it's.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Exaggerated, it's drag in a sense, and yeah, you'll love them.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And this one gets to look like a my boss
every day.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
My boss, and not in any way in real life
a fashionista. I dress simply and let my personality be
the star. As Mary Testa one said, uh so it's
great to wear these designer clothes and these you know.
I'm like, wow, I should do this more in.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
My real life.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Actually, yesterday I did have a conversation with our wardrobe supervisor.
I was like, I want to buy a chain like
this for myself.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I do that.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Can I wear it in the you know anyway?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
But I love the fact I love it, and I'm
going to implement it in my own life.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
He's taking a little andre with us.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, you know, I watch shows and I too. Also,
you know, maybe if I didn't wear jeans and hoodies
every day, if I if I added to my my
outfit budget, I'd love to look like some of these
people the way to.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
A little painful.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
They can be the last thing. It takes such an
insane amount of talent for anybody to be a part
of a production, and this show in particular, who's going
to be Robin Williams. That's the first thing that you
think is especially it's a movie, so you can reshoot,
you can recut. That's not something you can do in
(16:54):
a stage production. So what can you say about not
just the star of the show, but the wife essentially
has to be the straight woman of the entire cast
the entire time, not a lot of jokes, kind of
has to settle everything down. It's like, this is not
that funny, this is annoying, and it's ruining my life.
And then you have children that have to be on
(17:17):
the stage a lot in this show, and they were
amazing when they like last night, during the program. I
know there's a couple of roles that are shared between
a couple of kids for the entirety of the week,
but the kids that I got to see last night
were unbelievable. So I'll let you both kind of just
talk about the talent of this cast as a whole
(17:38):
and why people should come see this show.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, well Melissa Gosh, she's amazing as Miranda. I just
nicknamed her yesterday Sensible Sally Fields. But yeah, like just
the way she emotes and that eleven o'clock number that
she does ballot at the end of the show, It's
dealt with such raw emotion and just you can definitely
(18:01):
tell it comes from the depths. She's really trying to
get through the show and keep things on track. But
and the kids are they's just hilarious.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well, it's hilarious.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Sometimes we got a rainom Man stage. Yeah, but just
like the things that come out of kids. You know
what's that's that's that TV show that used to be
on the Darnest Things every day.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
You'd rather have that problem then than be you know,
plammed up the whole time.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, for sure, it's never boring moment.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
You gotta love that though from your perspective, Brian, what
about this cast?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, the talent is crazy. I mean every single person
who's on that stage has worked their whole life for this, right,
so you know, the talent is incredible. Craig, who plays Daniel,
is perfect for the role. It is hard to like say, oh,
we have to get somebody to be like Robin Williams
or to replace Robin Williams, and you're never gonna find
(18:59):
another Rob Williams. They're just never gonna happen. So the
way that they wrote this musical, they did allow for
someone to make it their own, and so he did
get to figure out his own impersonations that he was
gonna do. We have another person who goes on. Chaz
Ingram is the understudy, but he does two shows a
week every week because it's such a demanding part. Craig
(19:21):
cannot no human can do eight shows of this a week.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And the lines and you can tell there's some improvisation
every single night that he's got to be thinking about
when he's up there.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, and so, but Chaz also has his own set
of impersonations that he does that he puts on and
his own spin that he puts on the character. And
Craig as well. Like it was kind of like, you know,
they built all of this, they allowed for that, luckily
that improvisation, and it's different with both of them. We
play the same show, but with two different Daniels, and
(19:58):
it's different shows every time.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Well, I can say this as somebody who saw the show.
You gotta see the show, especially if you know the movie,
because you're gonna be fascinated like I was, as to
how you tell the story and the music I had
no expectation for. I was really excited. Every single time
a song would start, I had oh wow. I didn't
expect this sound. I didn't expect this to be happening.
(20:21):
I didn't expect the disco number.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Because sometimes you see a show and you're like another song.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, and they sound the same. There are no two
songs alike in this show, which is amazing. Missus Doubtfire
at the Orpheum through the weekend. Go to ticket Omaha
dot com to get your tickets. Brian Kalinowski playing Frank
Hillard and Devon Wakovia Buchanan playing Andre. Thank you both
(20:46):
so much for being here today.
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