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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I like animals. I have mentioned that a couple of things. There.
There's a place in Texas who has rescued a bunch
of baby skunks. Would you would you be apprehensive to
volunteering and helping out the baby skunks there.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Matt, I'd worry that they might spray me. It's a
good worry to have. It's something that could happen. Have
you been sprayed by a skunk before? No?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Do baby skunks spray people? Is that the one where
if you get sprayed you got to take a bath
of oatmeal? Like an oatmeal bath? I think it's tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh it's tomatoes.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, oatmeal bath. You can take an omeal bath whenever.
Oh yeah, well in that case, yeah, you can just
go by by the what is it a Veno?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I think it's a Veno. It's the brand that makes
the good oatmeal for bath. The bath oatmeal. I was
just gonna get quaker myself. You're gonna eat well, yeah,
put a little brown sugar and you know how I
I don't want to I don't want to get you
off topic, but I do have a very unique way.
I like my oatmeal. What's that? Well? I put a
peanut butter in it is that weird?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
No, I don't know. I feel like you can really
just do anything with the oatmelk that can't you.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, it's a very blank template. It's you can do whatever.
I put peanut butter in a little brown sugar and
then even a little cereal over top to give it
that crunch.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah yeah, yeah, nice.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
That improves the consistency a little bit. It's not a
mushy right right. I don't like it when he gets
too wet and put a little too much water or
milk in there and he's a little too soupy. I'm
not a big fan. I like it to be kind
of thick.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Anyway, back to what I'm saying. Skunks, right, baby skunks
or skunk kits, you know, that's what you call a
little baby's kits are generally not known for spraying as
a defense mechanism skunks. Skunks typically begin to develop their
spraying ability at around six to eight weeks of age.
Before this, their sink glands are not fully developed, and
they don't have the control of the capacity to spray effectively. However,
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if a baby skunk feels threatened or is handled in
a way that it perceives as dangerous. It may attempt
to spray, but the spray is usually less potent than
that of an adult skunk. Handling baby skunks with care
and avoiding startling them can minimize the risk of them spraying. Now,
part of that video was a little baby skunk that
was trying to protect itself, you know, as one does.
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It's got its tail, it's straight up, so it looks
bigger even know it's a little tiny guy. And then
he's like kind of charging at you a little bit, right,
trying to get you away. Like the person who was
filming just trying to get him away, right because doesn't
know what's going on with this context. Matt yay or
Nay helping volunteer to help baby skunks. Yeah, if I
wasn't going to get sprayed, you know, it seems like
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everything is avoidable. It sounds like the spraying is avoidable.
It's not like, hey, you run into a skunk, you're
getting sprayed, no matter what. That's not exactly how it works.
But if you startle a skunk now we're talking, you
could be in a little bit of trouble.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Did pep beelepew ever spray anybody.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
That's a great question. He just kind of stunk without
doing anything.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Oh he smelled bad.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
He smelled bad, Yeah, because remember he always like the
he was always trying to woo the cat that looks
like a skunk. Yeah, that was Like the whole point
is like this this guy, and he's kind of been canceled.
Let's be honest. I mean, Pepe has been canceled by
social media twenty twenty four because he's a little too handsy.
Oh you know, he's kissing that cat who didn't even
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ask for it, and he gets his I mean, like
that's the funny part of the cartoon is you know,
the cat always rejects him, and Pepe ends up taking
like an anvil to the face somewhere, runs into a car,
you know, as more of his ass sounds. It's actually
really funny to watch, but it seems like he's unaware
of how bad he smells, even though he hasn't actually
sprayed anybody. He just smells bad, which is why the
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cat doesn't like him. And it would seem to me
that if we cancel this cartoon character, then we're also
canceling the lesson that potential children could be getting well
that's my thing, right. It's like, hey, we shouldn't be
laughing at this skunk forcibly making out what this cat
that looks like a skunk that he thinks is a skunk.
He's attracted the cat who doesn't like him back because
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she doesn't smell as bad as he does, and we're
supposed to we shouldn't be laughing at his misogynistic behavior. However,
I tend to be with you. Pepe never wins. I
mean he never wins. The only time he won was
in Space Jam, and he only scored like two points
in the entire game he was in that. Yeah, I
go back and watch. They use him as a mechanism
in the second half of the game. Spoiler alert to
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those who haven't seen Space Jams, a twenty eight year
old movie. If you haven't seen Space Jam, it's on
you now. Pepe is used. Michael Jordan picks up Pepe
by the tail, and Pepe introduces himself to the Monstars,
but Michael and the rest of the team on the
floor are wearing gas masks. I remember that now.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
And then in the mon Star's faint because Pepe stinks
for so bad, and then Pepe is able to score
a basket to while they're incapacitated. You know, really too
bad that Michael Jordan would knowingly work with a sexual predator.
Now who we cancel in? Now, easy there, pal, I'm
ready to cancel them all.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
As as far as Michael Jordan goes, he probably doesn't
even know that he's all business. From the time he
is kidnapped by Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck at the
beginning of the movie to the time they're playing that game,
they're literally only talking about basketball. And what could happen
to the Looney Tunes if they lose the game, which
is they'd have to work on Moron Mountain?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
So this probably could be looked at as an institutional
failing from Looney Tunes as a company. Where's their HR department? Well,
that's the thing, right, Is the cat a Looney Tune?
Or is the cat just kind of a bystander to
all this stuff? Does anybody else even show up in
a lot of the Pepe cartoons like they know he's there?
But most Pepe cartoons it's just pepe Le Pew and
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the cat in a variety of Parisian situations. Is it
reasonable to think that Bugs and Daffy and Tweedy and
Sylvester and all the rest of them are just kind
of unaware of anything other than pepe le Pew being
a skunk. I think canonically you could make the argument
that he just exists in his own way world and
when they have their big Looney Tunes meetings, he shows up.
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You never see the cat anywhere outside of the pepe
le Pew Pepe girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I'm just gonna look this up. Her name is Penelope
pussy Cat, and she looks incredibly close to a skunk,
but she usually has absolutely no idea what the heck
is happening, which lens makes you. It lends you to
believe that, I mean, some of this is on her,
isn't it. At what point do we blame Penelope pussy
Cat for like not getting the hint at some point
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that when Pepe's around, you probably shouldn't be like making
yourself available, although she does usually get it over on
him basically every cartoon.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
But don't you think the lesson here is don't be
creepy or you might get hit by a bus.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Oh well, if you want to talk about pepe Lapew
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Speaker 2 (07:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I feel like we've talked about as hard hitting as
stuff during this show as we ever have. It's just
a matter of the people who, you know, listening. They
have to come up with the idea whether or not
it's important to them.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
That makes sense, That does make sense.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Now, I showed you a picture of Penelope pussy Cat,
and I showed you a picture of Pepela Pew. Well,
what say you here? They look ridiculously similar.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
They do. The one difference maybe the ears, and then
there's that one line.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
That Pepe's got in between his in between the white
stripes on its tail. Now, the reason we're talking about
this is pepe La Pew is a skunk. We were
talking about skunks rescuing. You can rescue baby skunks, and
I think skunks are important to the to the environment.
Do you know what skunks Yeah, they're not like wasps,
and it's like get them away from us. And you
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said you wouldn't mind working with some of.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Them, I wouldn't. I wouldn't put it past me.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
You wouldn't put it whatever that means, wouldn't put it.
So here are some things that the skunks do to
help our society, even though Pepe la Pew has probably
done more harm to the skunk you know, I think
my first it wasn't even that it was there's a
skunk episode in the rug Rats, remember that? Remember that
where Chucky gets sprayed by a skunk and he just
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stinks and they try to bathe him over and over again,
and right, you know, it's a problem for him. It
takes him a long time before he finally And I
think that the episode ends with another one of like
Angelica or somebody gets sprayed as well, or maybe they
all got sprayed. I don't know, but anyway, irreparable harm
done by Pepe Lapew to the skunk society, the skunks everywhere. Also,
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the hyena population has been absolutely destroyed by the Lion King.
Like if you watch videos of baby hyenas and hyenas
in controlled environments. Yeah, they're scavengers, and yeah they're they're
meat eating carnivores. And it's not real easy to watch
some of the stuff they do, but they hunt in packs.
They are really smart with the way they do things.
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They look kind of strange, but they're really cool animals,
and the Lion King made them seem like great villains,
and so nobody from our generation onward really like them,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Not fair?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Not fair to the hyena's not fair to the skunks. Yeah, well,
here are some things the skunks do that do help
the environment. Past control skunks are, I asked Chatt GPT.
This by the way, I'm getting this straight off, chat GPT.
Skunks are omnivores. They feed on varieties of insects, including beetles, grubs,
and caterpillars. They also can feed as well on small
animals and other roads. By controlling those populations, skunks help
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keep the balance in their ecosystems and can reduce the
impact of pests on crops and plants. Also, seed dispersal
in their search for foods, skunks may consume fruits and
berries and later disperse the seeds throughout their droppings. This
seed dispersal can help in the regeneration of plant community
and contribute to the overall health of forests and other habitats.
We talk about this with all sorts of different animals,
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a lot of times birds, right, it's important to you know,
like you know birds, sometimes they disperse the seeds, you know, Yeah, scavenging.
Skunks are also scavengers and will feed on dead animals
and carry on. It's the same thing. This helps in
the decomposition process and recycling of nutrients back into the soil,
contributing to nutrient cycling in their environment and habitat creation.
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Because they are big diggers, that's like their favorite thing
to do. By digging for insects and other prey, skunks
can errate the soil, which benefits plant growth. Their burrows
can also provide habitats for other animals, including insects in
small mammals. Overall, skunks contribute to biodiversity and ecosystem health
by performing these ecological functions. So have we done enough
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things to help people understand that skunks are good. They
just also happen to be able to spray you if
they're startled and you threaten it, and they'll turn around
and give you a whole spray and that's not great.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
All had that moment when we're driving on the highway
and a skunk freshly sprays.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
In area mm hm and you drive right through it.
It's an unmistakable scent, an unmistakable sand.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And sometimes it just kind of sits in your car.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, it's hard to get rid of, right because, uh,
you know, you have to adjust your entire air system
to be able to filter that out as fast as possible.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Now, how does one little animal do something like that?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I don't know, man. And that's the thing though, It's
like you don't even have to run over the thing.
It just has to be nearby having sprayed something or
something it is freshly sprayed is nearby. Yeah, yeah, not great.
Makes you definitely not want to do that.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
You know, garter snakes do that too. They musk, they
don't they don't spray like in a in a wo
in like that kind of way. But like you see
a garter snake and you pick it up, that thing
will musk and it makes it smell bad. Yeah, but
it also would make it taste bad if you were
a predator, and you would drop it because you don't
want to taste something that bad.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Mammals have those taste receptors that you know, Like your
dog picks up one of those garter snakes, You'll be like,
oh gosh, you and it'll drop the snake because it
tastes bad. It's a defense mechanism, you know what I'm saying.
M h, It's not a bad one. Same thing for
like porcupines, right, Like, what's gonna what will kill a
porcupine if it gets up into like its ball and
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has nothing but spikes everywhere? Like, what's a predator going
to do there? You got to go through a lot
of pain just to have that meal. Just throwing that
out there. So I think maybe we should celebrate skunks
for their inventiveness and their ability to protect themselves from
the predators out there that are seeking an easy meal.
Especially while skunks are so useful to our ecosystems.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I feel like they could tone down the smell a
little bit though.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, but if you do that, then you're ruining your
defense mechanism.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Hey twenty twenty four, Like tone it down, that's all
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Natural, Like like a mountain lion. Let's say a mountain
lion is wandering through see a skunk? How big do
you think? A skunk is bigger than a squirrel or
about squirrel SiGe, but smaller than a beaver. Yeah, they
are smaller than a beaver. They can weigh up to
about thirteen pounds, like ten to thirteen pounds, Okay, yeah, yeah,
certain species can go to like eighteen pounds. But yeah,
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so essentially, I guess a dog could take one down,
like a big dog could try to take one down
if it can survive the smell, you know, like it
can like power through getting sprayed. I'm thinking more like
a mountain lion or something. I'm sure there are plenty
of things that will kill these things, but my thought
is if you tone the scent down, like if they
have evolved to smell less bad, that mountain lion is
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going to have a lot more of an easy target,
I suppose, because they don't really have any other good
They don't have big claws, they don't have teeth that
can help protect themselves, like if they go they if
it was monoemano them in a possum, probably a fair
fight monoemano a skunk versus a dog, skunk versus a
cat like a like a big tabby who's a good hunter,
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a mouser. I feel like, especially a small, small skunk
probably lose that one. Yeah, they need that ability to
really make a pungent, offensive scent smell that will deter
those types of predators that are trying to take it out.
I can get down with that.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I feel like a possum would take down a skunk
pretty easy.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Well, I'll have to ask chat GPT that you think
chat GPT agrees with you?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
What is that robot? No, I'm talking this is we're
talking about real life here, baby possum versus skunk. What's
some robot? And what's some office in New York City's
gonna tell me what to think? Get out of here.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Chat GPT is incredibly helpful, man, I just asked what
would win a fight between a skunk and to possum. Okay,
I'll have to go through this. It breaks it down
from a few different angles, so I'll get to that
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listening to Emory Songer on news radio eleven ten K Fabulous. Matt,
you said that you think of a possum would take
out a skunk.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I think what was the thought behind that?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Will? What would happen like that? You think like a possum,
it's pretty bulky, and they just have that big mouth
and a bunch of sharp teeth in there. That is true.
That is true. They and skunks kind of share the
same diet for the most part. They kind of assume
the same role. I think skunks might be a bit bigger,
like top end size wise in terms of weight, but
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their babies are both really small. I don't know, well,
I asked chat GPT and this is what they said
in a direct confrontation. The skunk spray would likely give
it a significant advantage is the possum would be deterred
by the unpleasant odor. The possum strategy of playing dead
might help it avoid a fight if it can successfully
trick the skunk into losing interest. However, if the skunk
is persistent, or if the possum can't effectively use its
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play dead strategy, the skunk's spray would likely prevail as
the primary factor in winning the encounter. So chat GPT
says Team Skunk, Well.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
When when you're putting that month's emphasis on their defense mechanisms.
So he's gonna spray him and the possum what he's
gonna do is gonna play dead. That's not really gonna
help him in that situation.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
No, but the idea is like, okay, so in terms
of winning the encounter, it would be a win for
the possum if the encounter stops. Basically it's a strategy
to like get the skunk to lose interest, and the
skunk's just like all right, I'm out of here.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But I still think they.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Wouldn't there's no reason for these dude to ever fight
for the record.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
But if they threw down, I'm telling you, if the
teeth on the possum, I'm just I'm putting my team on.
I'm putting my money on team possum.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I just like a possum basically, would I mean they
barely eat mice, like that's as big as they get
of the live being.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
So why are those teeth so sharp? You know? Uh?
Little Red riding Hood asked her Grahama the same thing. Yeah,
that was a wolf exactly. That possum is doing things
we don't know about. That's what I'm saying. He wouldn't
have teeth that sharp for no reason.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
You think a skunk could take down a fox, Yeah,
it says, I asked. CHAGBT says in a direct confrontation
of fox's physical advantage like strength, agility, and predatory skills
might give it the upper hand, but if the skunk
effectively use it to spray, it could repel the fox,
and the spray could cause significant discomfort and irritation, which
could dissuade the fox from continuing the fight. So it
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says it's like the encounter itself, it needs more details
to really know, but it does say the skunk spray
would give it a chance to beat a fox. I mean,
I think we're under selling how important that defense mechanism is.
That you keep saying they need to tone it down.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
They do. I don't know if they control all that,
but you know, I just think it's a little much.
You ever drive over the interstate and you get hit
with a skunk smell and you're like, it's a little much.
Didn't have to go to all that effort, you know,
like coming on a little strong there, Pepe.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, well that's what I'm saying. Pepe has done incredible.
What about a coyote? Do you think a skunk could
take down a coyote?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I bet chat GPT would again default to saying that
they'll just stink them out out. Basically, it does not.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Actually, it says the coyote, if it's able to avoid
the sprayer with stand the discomfort, it will close the
distance and use all of its physical strength to overcome
the skunk. Coyotes are generally able to deal with a
variety of defensive strategies, including skunk spray and their size
and strengths that give them a big advantage in a
physical fight.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Okay, so there you go.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
There is a limit to chat evt's belief in the
skunk spray system mechanism. So I a solid fifteen seed,
got to the sweet sixteen, and.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Skunks. You didn't know you needed all that skunk talk today,
did you.