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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The more I read about war and the ideologies of war,
it really isn't that different. Like there's religious aspects to this,
but there's also just kind of like, hey, we want
to eliminate the people here. That's actually not that different
than some of the other bad guy invader type people
that have created and started many wars in modern times.

(00:20):
And I just feel like I led myself to believe
that we could coexist and have world peace when realistically
that's just not how the world works. And it's not
been how the world works, especially in Europe and Asia,
in the Middle East, and even in parts of Africa, Like,
it hasn't been like that literally since North America and
South America and Australia were found by explorers. Right, this

(00:42):
is the Crusades. You want to talk about a religious war.
The Crusades were a series of wars essentially that were
going on for like one hundred years before anyone knew
that North and South America were a thing as far
as a European perspective, Right, that's how long ago that
stuff was. They've been fighting over this stuff for that long.
It's going to keep happening. I'm an idiot for thinking

(01:04):
it wouldn't. However, there's another sidebard to this argument is
how qualified are we from the cheap sc even be
talking about this. I was watching First Take this morning
as I was taking another break, you know, First Take,
the sports show. Dan Orlovsky is a former backup quarterback,
essentially in the NFL. He had a long career, played
over a decade, mostly as a backup quarterback. But I

(01:27):
like how he analyzes the game. He knows offenses, he
knows how to break tape down. It's pretty fun to
listen to him speak. I like it when he calls
college games. You know, I learned a lot from him.
He's on First Take talking football and they're talking. It's
him and Shannon Sharp and they're talking about quarterback play
for the New York Jets. You know they have a
quarterback now, right, His name is Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Is he a Hall of Famer?

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:51):
I think he'll end up there. Yeah, I think he's
probably first ballot Hall of Famer. Right, He's won a
Super Bowl, He's you know, won the MVP a few times.
He's considered by many be one of the best of
his generation. Sure, dan Orlowski has made the argument against
Shannon Sharp said, you need to hold the quarterback accountable,
because Dan was talking about the offense in general, and

(02:12):
Dan said, Shannon, I'm not It's not my job on
National TV to call out a Hall of Fame quarterback
because he's playing badly when I was just a backup
my entire career. And it made me think, how much
of a responsibility does he have to say straight up
that Aaron Rodgers is playing really badly, analyze what he's
doing wrong in the game when he's accomplished a lot

(02:32):
more than Dan did in the same industry. How a
qualified are we to talk about a conflict or how
we feel about a conflict that doesn't directly involve us
that we know very little about how those people are
living over there. I don't know there was like a
direct correlation as I was going through this in my
brain this morning, and I was kind of like, you know,

(02:53):
and Shannon immediately was just like, you have a responsibility
as a journalist or as a TV talking head to
be honest, not to protect your relationship with other people
or to feel weird somehow by calling out a Hall
of Fame player for playing poorly just because you were
a backup quarterback. At the same time, I do feel

(03:14):
like it is we've gotten a littlely responsible in the
way that we talk about stuff when we don't really
know what's happening. We're taking second, third, fourth hand information
about things that are happening thousands of miles away and
developing our own opinions about them in different ways. It's
gotten kind of dangerous in a little bit because everybody
feels like they're an expert. Now, Am I seeing that wrong?

(03:37):
I'm just very introspective about this a year after.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
If you haven't.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Noticed, yeah, I totally pick up what you're putting down.
I really do. But I you know, though, such is
the way of the world. When you're seeking out certain information,
you can always find it, it seems, you know, as
far as whether it validates your point or paints a world,
paints a narrative a certain way.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
But it's tough.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
It's tough to really know what's happening across the world
when you're not there.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
And taking the word basically from people that you only
you trust, and not journalists that you may not have
heard from before. And the unfortunate reality that we have now,
especially in an election year, every single thing that happens
on a worldwide scale, anything that's in the new cycle,
whatsoever local and abroad, it is going to be weaponized

(04:28):
as a political tool against the people. Every single thing
that happens, including the weather. I have Marjorie Taylor Green
on Twitter. Did you see what she's saying about the weather?

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Boy, did you see it? Marjorie Taylor Green says they
are controlling the weather.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Who's they? Who do you think?

Speaker 1 (04:47):
And they specifically hit She says, they they directed the
weather to do what it did to Georgia and North Carolina,
which we know to be to toss up states, so
the Blue team can then go in and, you know,
play the hero and try to win an election. Wait
a second, who's they? You know who they are? The
Blue Team?

Speaker 5 (05:07):
What? What?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
What? What? What?

Speaker 6 (05:08):
What?

Speaker 1 (05:11):
You can go on our Twitter account. I don't want
to talk about it too much because I don't know
you have to all right, Well, I gotta take a break,
come back. Yeah, Marjorie thinks that somebody's playing with the weather. Uh,
just one example of what I'm talking about here. We'll
talk more about on these Rady eleven teen KFA b
Emri Sunger.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
You guys are asking who they were that are controlling
the weather, and it's the military industrial complex. Oh, you
don't know who they are. They've been around since about
Truman and Eisenhower lost control.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
So so I guess so. So my question then, Pamela,
and forgive me, this is just me being curious. What
what exactly what would they gain by controlling the weather?

Speaker 5 (06:10):
Geo engineering?

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Okay, well, I think thanks for the information, Pamela. We'll
talk about this too.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Where is this complex located?

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Is it like a sports complex? Okay?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
There, I just wanted to play that song, Okay, Hans Zemmer,
thanks for that. No, okay, So Marjorie shared Marjorie Taylor
Green shared a map of affected hurricane areas of what's
her name Helene, the hurricane from a couple of weeks
ago and the show. She shared the track of it

(06:54):
and basically the counties in the county's affiliation politically, and yeah,
it's being weaponized. There's no doubt that the devastation's being weaponized.
I just I'm going to generally push back that at
anyone who tells me that Hurricane Helene was some sort

(07:17):
of governmental convoluted storm that was designed specifically to hit
a very specific part of the country and wipe out
western North Carolina. It's very strange that that happened, but
their lack of infrastructure for such a storm is going
to create the issue that they are having. Much like

(07:39):
if a blizzard hit Houston, Texas, how devastating that could be.
There's a lot of blue counties in there too that
are highly populated as well. So look, I just think
that we need to start intelligently be talking about this
and not listening to very specific sources. We'll have more
on this on news Radio Elevenson Kfaby and Matt We

(08:00):
were talking about weather here, craziest weather like there's no
one for one. I don't think to like specifically like
a hurricane, like a Category five hurricane, or like the
storm damage that you're seeing with like Helene or for
Milton as it comes to.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Florida.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
But what would be like the worst type of weather pattern?
Do you think is it? Is it just like any
weather pattern that your infrastructure isn't necessarily capable of protecting?
Is that does that make sense? Like you don't want
to have one hundred and twenty degree weather in Minnesota?

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Right?

Speaker 4 (08:40):
It would be hard for them to snowstorms in the
South always are. Yeah, they're terrible because they're not ready
for them. They just don't have the infrastructure. It doesn't
make sense for them to have an entire fleet of
snow plows in the middle of Texas, and then sometimes
when they have snow, it just kind of creates a

(09:02):
bad situation for driving. With that being said, right, I
tend to think that the destruction a tornado can produce
is devastating, But I don't know if that's the worst
because it does like the chances of that happening are
so small to the spot that you're at. That doesn't

(09:24):
help people who've been hit by one. And I'm certainly
not trying to pretend or prepare for and let people
like understand and under like the best way I can
describe this, right, I'm not trying to downplay storm damage.
I'm not trying to say that one is less bad
than the other, because I think when you're in the

(09:45):
direct line of whatever the storm is, it is devastating and.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
No good, very bad all the time.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
However, I'm looking at the infrastructure of Florida and the
way that Florida is handling the preparation I'd.

Speaker 7 (10:00):
Really like to.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
I think that there's a way that there's a that
we can talk about what Florida is doing without being
insensitive to North Carolina and the lack of infrastructure or
preparation that they have. But again, at the same time,
there is a level of infrastructure preparation that Florida just

(10:22):
knows it has to have when it comes to the
hurricane season versus what happens with North Carolina, especially western
North Carolina, where they basically just get rain, maybe a
little bit of wind, but not really as much as
like actually taking a head on hurricane which Helene. Somehow,
the way that the path of that hurricane was went

(10:45):
right up the gut and stayed kind of on land
more so than it it did water, and that's unfortunate.
We do have a Bill on the phone line of
four two, five, five, eight to eleven ten, and Bill,
thanks for calling us. It sounds like you know a
thing or two about the weather. So can you tell
me about what you do?

Speaker 7 (11:04):
Sure?

Speaker 8 (11:05):
Well, Actually I'm retired and sitting in my driveway. Nice
kind of listening to you guys. I was an Air
Force guy for a number of years, also was a
hurricane hunter I just happened to turn on the radio.
I haven't been listening all afternoon, but there was a
lady that called in and claimed that the military industrial

(11:25):
complex is controlling the weather. I mean, I've taken calls
from people like that a lot during my time. Yeah,
And I kind of chuckled because I'm not sure if
anyone brought up the fact that the US is a
signatory on the UN Treaty for Weather Modification, which we
have agreed to abide by, which says, hey, we want

(11:48):
to screw up the weather.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Right, and that's that one way or the other.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Because I know that there were some experiments, you know,
decades ago, Bill and maybe in the sixties, Yeah, where
they would have also tried to like break up storms
with some technology. If they then attempted to do that
as well.

Speaker 8 (12:04):
Well effectively, what they what they resolved in those days
is that you can affect weather or a very small scale,
like a thunderstorm development, but it takes so much material
to do anything more than to just impact you know,
just a small area. To do something with the scale

(12:29):
of a hurricane is really impossible. I mean, if the hurricanes,
the typhoons, I mean, they harness more energy than nuclear weapons. Really,
So I just, I just I just heard that comment
from an is lady and I said, oh lord, it
reminds me of all of the phone calls that I
used to receive in the Air Force.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Well, Bill, I appreciate the well, I appreciate your service,
and I'm glad that you called in, because this is
really what I want my show to be is. You know,
we don't know all these things. I'm an expert on
very few things in life, and the weather is definitely
not one of them. So I'm glad that you called
in and helping us out with this, and I appreciate
you for calling in. Please call again sometime if we're
talking about this second.

Speaker 8 (13:09):
Sure, sure, you guys have a great show.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Thanks, Thank you, sir. I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, And this isn't to try to dispel and integrate
any other callers or anything, but it did take us
by surprise quite a bit, you know. And again, I'm
not trying to tell people. And I have a bunch
of like multiple emails from different people that have called
like to me saying that hey, she's more base than
you are. You sound stupid kind of thing, and you know,

(13:34):
that's part of the deal. I know I'm going to
get some of that. But at the same time, it's
kind of like, you really think the government built Hurricane
Helene and now is potentially building Hurricane Milton, and is
basically like with the remote control telling it what to do.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
They didn't have to build it. All they had to
do was send this guy.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Are your powers combined? I am Captain Planet.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
At least we know how they did it.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
I'm sorry, Did Captain Planet do anything with the weather? Yeah?
Earth wind fire put the rings together, right, right?

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Right?

Speaker 8 (14:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the original climate change?

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Right.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
I just say, like, if you're gonna sit here and
be like, hey, how dare you? Like, can we just
at least joke about it? I don't care like your
facts and your sources, like we can still joke when
we we still joke? No, No, it's too sensitive. No,
you can't joke about the government controlling the weather. I
can't tell a joke about that, noe.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
And you can't joke in general about anything because as
soon as they make fun of Donald Trump on SNL,
everybody hates sin L. But then SNL makes fun of
Walls and Biden and Kamala and all that, which they
did this past Saturday, and I heard V he's playing
some of it this morning. Guess what everybody's like, Oh, hey,
that's funny and everything. You know, It's like, it's just

(14:52):
not what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
It's really just, hey, if you make fun of stuff
that I like or I care about, it's not funny
to me, right, And it's just like, Okay, Well, you're
being a hypocrite about this because you want like you're
okay with people making fun of the stuff that you
don't like. Tell me how that makes sense. I'm just saying,
government controlling the weather. There's a plethora of jokes. It's

(15:13):
too easy. Hey, tell me not to joke about it.
And by the way, as far as it's concerned for
this show, please make fun of it. I want us
to have more fun on this show.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
There's no amount of fun that we should be constricting
ourselves to. Yeah, Kenny's on the phone line of four, two, five, five,
eight to eleven ten, Canny, you got some thoughts on
the weather.

Speaker 7 (15:31):
Yeah, I can't remember. Here in Nebraska, it was a
year or two before the cyclone bomb hit us. I
took a picture of my TV because central and western
Nebraska had a blizzard going on. There was a high
wind do not burn going on coming up from the
southwest was a tornado watch, and we had literally within
forty eight hours all four seasons and then a foot

(15:54):
and a half of snow on top of that when
it was all said and done. Now it's nothing like
a hurricane. I apologize for trying to compare it to
that because now it's a kind of experienced it. I've
only witnessed what happens to the good people afterwards. But
here in Nebraska we get some wild, crazy, silly weather.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, and that's the thing too, is it may not
be on a scale of the size or the devastation
immediately as some of the hurricanes and stuff, but it
is unpredictable. I think the level like they know three
or four days ahead of time that something crazy is
about to happen to them. Sometimes it just pops up
on us in a couple of hours.

Speaker 7 (16:31):
You know, we had about one date.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Notice, Yeah that was crazy before it all hit us,
for sure.

Speaker 7 (16:37):
Anyway, Love the.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Show Man, Thanks Kenny, appreciate you calling in Bill's on
our phone line. Different Bill than the Bill we just
talked to.

Speaker 9 (16:44):
Bill.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Thank you for listening to the show. What do you think?

Speaker 10 (16:48):
How you guys doing good?

Speaker 5 (16:50):
Anyway?

Speaker 10 (16:51):
I did hear the lady. We're out doing beings here,
so I at least have a little time to listen
to your show. There is and I did see this yesterday,
and I love doing facts, checking up facts. And then
also they started doing this in Vietnam to kind of
do what they could to win that war. Obviously it

(17:11):
didn't happen, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
That was Operation Piepi right, Popeye right, Yeah, I think
that's what they do.

Speaker 10 (17:18):
So I found this link if you it's oddly enough.
It's on CBS. CBS News did a segment on controlling
the weather, how to change the weather on purpose by
firing trillion watt lasers into the sky the scientists and
this was on August twenty sixth, twenty twenty three, at

(17:39):
nine thirty nine by Mark Marino. If anybody listeners want
to check it up, I'm out here. Like you guys said,
you can laugh about it. We all laughed, but I'm
one to point out facts and dig up the facts, okay.
And it's it's right there. CBS had it news anchor
Nah O'Donnell and they're talking with the scientists. He explains

(17:59):
how it is done and that you need a lot
of dust in the atmosphere. And if all of you guys,
all your listeners heard this spring from Africa, we were
getting those umongous plumes of dust in the atmosphere and
they were saying that's why we weren't having hurricane none
whatsoever because of the dust eliminated. But they didn't rule
it out that it's going to pick up. And it

(18:21):
is funny. How come all of a sudden it did
pick up. Are they pushing the green agenda? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
It is funny.

Speaker 10 (18:28):
Why is it so ironic? Yeah, well I did see CBS.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Have this and okay, so so yeah, so they had
a segment about this. I'd like to know, like, and
I know that you just mentioned all this. I'm trying
to find it here. Do you have the exact title?
What's the title of the article so I can look
at the exact title, because I mean, I'm not I'm
not seeing it very specifically. It's talking I have a
bunch of different weather stuff from CBS, but obviously that's

(18:53):
going to be like.

Speaker 10 (18:54):
Fortass going to this one h or go to www
dot CBS news and then there's a BackFlash video backslash
controlling the dash weather dash is dash it dash possible?

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Okay, all right, I got it, I got it. I
can use it.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
I can use those context cool clues to try to
figure this out. Bill, And again, I want to reiterate
that I'm not trying to dispel or eliminate anybody from
you know, thinking the way that they want to think
on this and finding things that they find to be
interesting or true about this. I do want to make
sure that if there was something that we did talk
about on this, that it's important for us to talk

(19:38):
about as many different sides of it as possible. I
had a guy who was working in the Air Force
with the government. He worked with weather there and says,
basically straight up that they can control with you know,
like cloud planting, maybe creating a thunderstorm, but there's no
way they could create a hurricane. I'm just throwing that
out there. I feel like he probably knows more than

(19:59):
I do, or you know, most others. But if you
want to talk about this as well, call us at
four two five five eight eleven ten. Appreciate the call
Bill four two five five eight eleven ten. We'll talk
more on news Radio eleven ten KFAB and.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
My's song on news Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
He's a physics professor at City College of New York
and talks to an Ouro, O'Donnell and Charlie Rose on
the CBS Morning or CBS This Morning eleven years ago
about this and essentially is talking about, you know, lasers
being able to create rain, create storm clouds, kind of
thing in using lasers and some other items to be

(20:40):
able to do this. Now, he says that he was asked,
point blank, do we know that China was able to
use this stuff to protect things in the two thousand
and eight Olympics? Was this something that Rushi used to
create rain with Chernobyl? And this physicist says, it's inconclusive.
We are trying to make those progresses forward here. This

(21:03):
also kind of combats people talking about Operation Popeye and
the cloud seating projects that the Air Force was carrying
out during the Vietnam War. And the Operation Popeye, as
I've read about, basically, it was an attempt to extend
monsoon season, trying to disrupt the North Vietnamese military supplies

(21:24):
by creating landslides and making things difficult for them within
the monsoon season, and trying the best that they can
to modify the weather in a way that could create
issues for the North Vietnamese military. So as far as
like this being actually implemented, and how much additional days

(21:46):
of rainfall that this may have occurred, or maybe what
the capabilities of this potentially are, it's kind of rich
to me. And again this is me just to understand
all sides of people who think differently than I do, Okay,
because I generally don't think that we have the capabilities

(22:08):
just to spawn a random hurricane and then turn it
on our own people. That's just something I don't think
is necessarily the case. It's rich to me that people
can deny that climate change is a thing, yet can
so easily say that, yeah, humans can manipulate the weather
however they'd like. That to me is an oxymoron. Marjorie

(22:28):
Taylor Green is somebody who has denounced climate change over
and over and over again. And that's as far as
you know, like an economic impact of like, hey, we
need to stop worrying about the EPA regulations about what
climate change is doing to our country because all these
places are just going and building more places in countries
that don't have these regulations. I can understand making that argument,

(22:50):
especially considering the fact that I think we have other
issues that have created maybe the warming of the surface
of the world. Then necessarily just well, it's because of
all the pollution in the things that we have emission
wise around the world. I'm not saying that it's not happening.
I'm just saying that you can make the argument that
there are a lot of different things, including the greenhouse

(23:10):
effect on the ozone being so strong right now. The
ozone was apparently depleted in the late eighties, you know,
all of a sudden, we sorted a great conservation effort
to try to get rid of stuff that was depleting
the ozone layer. And now from a lot of studies,
the ozone layers as strong as it's ever been, and
it's difficult for air, hot air cool ayer, any air

(23:31):
at all to escape our atmosphere because of the ozone layer,
right so it's like sitting in a greenhouse almost I've
read studies that say that could be responsible for a
lot of the warming on the surface, the one or
one and a half degree increase over the last twenty
years that we've seen here. If you're going to say
that that's not something that's happening, though, how can you
in the same breath says yeah, the government can create

(23:53):
whatever weather patterns they want. That doesn't make sense to me.
Me as a critical thinking person, will question that and
as to why would you say that that's something that's happening.
Are you familiar with Noah Inaa. No, they are the
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. They are the people that
are kind of in the know about weather in a

(24:16):
variety of different ways. So I ask, and I'm looking
through some of the stuff that they have available from
their research division, especially on hurricanes. They have a page
specifically this says, hurricane modification can human intervention diminish the
force of a hurricane? This is about trying to break
up a hurricane specifically, because think about it, this would

(24:37):
be something that if we could do this, why wouldn't
we If there was a way that we could make
a hurricane less strong, wouldn't we? Well, Noah, the National
Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration says from the mid nineteen sixties
through the early eighties, Noah actively pursued Project Storm Fury,
a program of experimental hurricane modification. The general strategy was

(24:57):
to reduce the intensity of a storm by cloud seating.
They were creating thunderstorms inside the storm to try to
stop the rotation and strength building of the storm. Makes sense.
It simulates a formation of a new eyewall that could
surround the existing eyewall, and that would contract strangling the
old eyewall and reduce the intensity of the hurricane. Which

(25:18):
everybody talks about the eye of the storm and how
strong things are on the edges of the eye of
the storm. This was an idea of like, maybe we
could kind of create a phony eyewall essentially to sow
the storm breaks up and it doesn't have that center
of mass that it's spinning around and creating more strength. Now,
the American Meteorological Society Policy Statement on plan and Inadvertent

(25:40):
Weather Modification in nineteen ninety eight indicates, quote, there is
no sound physical hypothesis for the modification of hurricanes. Tornadoes
are damaging winds in general, and no related scientific experimentation
has been conducted in the past twenty years. So in
the absence of a sound hypothesis, no federal agencies are
presently doing or planning research on hurricane modification. Now, you're

(26:02):
probably gonna sit there and if you already believe that
the you know people are controlling the weather and messing
with the weather, you're gonna think, even though I've said
this about the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, you're gonna say, well,
I still think they are. And that's fine. You can
believe what you want. I'm presenting you information by people
who know more than I do, and I would imagine
no more than most of us saying that we don't

(26:22):
have legitimate evidence we could even do this. We tried
doing it for a couple of decades. We didn't have
any legitimate evidence this was working, and we haven't done
these types of experiments, nor has any federal agencies attempted
to do set experiments since at least nineteen ninety eight. So,
with that being said, are we sure we want to bury?
You know, this horrific thing that's happened in North Carolina

(26:44):
and Georgia and what's about to happen to Florida and
blame that on the government turning the weather on its
own people to use it for political gain, or is
the weather more likely just doing what it does and
then it can be used for political gain, because that's
what we do in this country, use everything that happens,
regardless of what it is, for political gain.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
And a dose of contrarianism. Every single thing like this,
whether it's a natural disaster, whether it's a pandemic due
to an illness, every single thing in my adult life,
there is a conspiracy theory that breaks out that it's
fake and the government created it. So just think that
through and think use logic here, That's all I'm saying.

(27:26):
Now you're gonna get mad at me because I don't
have access to the same websites that you do. All
I'm saying is, logically, every single time, whether it was
nine to eleven, whether it was whether it was the coronavirus,
whether it was these hurricanes, whether it was Katrina, every
single time the government did it is a conspiracy theory
that breaks out.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
It is something that does happen.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Basically every single time something happens, some major event happens
in our country or even in the world, there are
there's an avenue that you could take. It says there's
more to what the government knows or what they're doing
than we are aware of. Again, I'm not here to
tell you that that's not true at one hundred percent
of the time. I'm just saying that it is not

(28:06):
a new thing to be bringing this as a possibility here.
We'll keep talking about this if you want to call
us at four roh two five five eight to eleven ten.
It's news Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Emery Sunger on News Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
The bottom line here is, from what we know, Marjorie
Taylor Green is been really waving the flag of like, hey,
this was done intentionally on this part of the country.
They can control the weather kind of thing. And we've
just been talking about that and kind of exploring that
as a topic of conversation today. And the phone lines

(28:42):
are pretty full. Four h two five five eight eleven ten.
Four h two five five eight to eleven ten. Let's
start with Todd. Todd, thanks for being on the show today.
What do you think about all this?

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Hello? Hey, well, I kind of have a difference of
opinion with you. I think you're saying that government is
what everybody's saying that created the hurricane. I'm not saying
that anyone could create a hurricane. But if you look
up and I just googled cloud feeding. So there are

(29:13):
several seating companies in the United States, whether Modification Inc.
RHS Consulting, blah blah blah, Ice Crystal Engineering. I don't
know where they're located. But what killed most of the
people down there and did most of the destruction was
the absolute heavy downpours of rain after it hit landfall
that hadn't been seen before. And I'm not saying I'm

(29:37):
one hundred percent right. I have more questions than I
have answers, and I'm not saying that the government would
have done it. But there are some feuge businesses that
will stand to gain from the lithium in North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah, And I had a couple of people email me
about that and like the land grabs and stuff like that,
because this is like on the edge of the appellationians, right,
so like I can understan understand like doing the cause
and effect thing of like, okay, so who would gain
by this happening and just getting cleared out and all
this stuff? And I understand where you're coming from that.
I guess maybe this is the naivety in me that's

(30:13):
coming back out as to why would anyone do this
and try.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
To hide there they.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Allow the money, right and Todd, I'm under like, I'm
with you, I'm hearing you. I just tend to see
a lot better in people than create like trying to
help a hurricane stay strong enough to reach western North
Carolina instead of just you know, trying to gobble up
that land in a different way. Now, the other thing
that I will say is I did do some reading

(30:41):
even in the break here about the cloud seeding that
we were talking about, and from the perspective of like Noah,
the people who are like the Weather Agency right the
National oceanicant Atmosphere Administration, they their studies. Their assumption was
if they can cloud seed in the right ways around hurricane,
it could actually help to break it up. And that

(31:03):
was what they have experimented on a few decades ago.
And they were unable to make that determination if that
actually helped or not. So it was an incredible storm
and I'm not I'm not he go ahead.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
If cloud seeming didn't work, there wouldn't be companies in
the United States still the day that are doing.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
No cloud seating works. It's creating rain. It's just not
able to break up.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
But it's not old.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Most of the people and did most of the destruction
in North Carolina and surrounding areas. I mean, I know
the Tennessee and right off Carolina. It's it's just follow
the money to me, because you look at the contracts
that black Rock got before this happened. I'm not saying

(31:46):
Blackrock could have created the hurricane either. Yeah, I'm just.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Saying I know it's a it's a crazy coincidence, and
I understand what you're saying, Todd. At the same time,
I'm also saying, like this storm was creating a lot
of this rain before it even made landfall. And I
just I want us to ask and I'm with you,
there's a lot of questions. I'm with you. I know
that we don't have all the answer. I'm not pretending
to be an expert on this. I'm just telling you,

(32:10):
like from what I'm reading about cloud seating is it
can create just kind of like a static rain over
some space. It's not able to break up a hurricane
like they thought it. What a few decades ago when
they did that experiment. But this was a storm that
was creating a lot of rain even before it got
to land. And I don't know, It's just it seems
to me if they wanted it to hit western North Carolina,

(32:31):
they got incredibly lucky that it reached that way. If
they were planning from that far out, I just I
feel like that's an unlikely spot for a hurricane to
get to.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
With I did hear of one other it was I
think I believe it was a military experiment or they
went over a hurricane and they were dropping dry ice
in it, and all of a sudden, the hurricane took
a hard different turn than they expecting. I'm not saying
that they can fear it, you know, I'm not saying
that at all. But that is another experiment that had.

(33:02):
I mean, there's so much stuff that we'll never hear
about regardless.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Sure is yeah, and I'm here, and you know, I
appreciate the call, Buddy, Thanks thanks for listening, Todd. I
appreciate the call. And again, I just want to reiterate this.
That also wouldn't have been the first hurricane to have
changed direction. There are hurricanes that are changing direction regularly.
Milton does kind of have like a little curve to
him as he gets closer to Florida, and he's going
to go over more central Florida than he is going

(33:29):
to go over South Florida right now. But there's a chance,
the way that the storm continues to move and build,
there's a chance as a Category five that he takes
a different route. Maybe he could go a little bit
more south than they think he's going to be. We
would have to do that experiment one hundred times to
really see if there's any correlation whatsoever of dropping some

(33:51):
of that you know, drives or whatever into a hurricane
and then seeing if it consistently moves it one direction
or the other. Dennis is on our phone line at
four h two, five, five, eight to eleven ten. Dennis,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 6 (34:03):
Hey, I haven't heard all these conversations, hiet, But I
did catch somebody talking about cloud seating, and I think
somebody mentioned Operation Popeye.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
I did, because you know, when you look up like
rain and cloud manipulation and weather manipulation, that is one
of the first things that pops up, is like the government,
our military actually tried to do this in like lengthen
in string out the rain season in Vietnam, you know,
back in the late sixties.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
That is absolutely correct. And my father was part of
Operation Popeye. He was he was stationed on Okinawa in
the early seventies and he participated in that with the
man that was in charge of the project. There was
a facility in China Lake, California, and it was called

(34:55):
in mod Our Environmental Modification. That's where they did all
the experiment and they did take P three to Orion
flew down to Vietnam and seated the clouds and the
months during the monsoon season to try to extend the
rains and drownd out the trails and slow down troop movements. Now,
my father also got the Joint Service Commendation Medal because

(35:19):
we had a drought on Okinawa at the time. This
is back in seventy one, and we had about nine
months where you could watch the clouds come over the
ocean and there was a high pressure area over the
island and the clouds would literally split and it would
rain out in the ocean, but it wouldn't rain and
fill the reservoirs on the island. So what happened was
they went in and they actually seated the leading edge

(35:41):
of these storms as they came in. Now, these were
not hurricanes or typhoons, they are just small squalls and
actually were able to turn them a little bit so
that we relieved the drought on the island, and so
he got a commendation medal for that. I have the
pictures with Admiral Saint Amand and my father and another

(36:05):
guy that were the scientists on the project. I've got
the accommendation letter, so I mean I've seen it firsthand.
It can be done. But to be able to turn
a typhoon or a hurricane, I mean literally you could
drop a thermonuclear device into one of those and it
wouldn't even fase it. I mean, the amount of energy

(36:25):
is just incredible. So the idea that the government could
sede that to the extent that they could actually turn
it or move it is highly highly improbable. It would
just take a tremendous effort, and I doubt we even
have that the silver, iodide and substances available and those
quantities to be able to do that.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Interesting. Dennis, Well, I'm glad that you called Dan.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Thanks so much for your family's work and service to
this country. Thanks so much for calling in with this,
and I'm sure you didn't think that you did get
a chance to talk about Operation Popeye on the radio.
But I'm glad that you called in when you heard
us bring it up, and it's good information for us today.

Speaker 6 (37:04):
Yeah, you're welcome. Man. I still want fireworks on my birthday.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Okay, I'll do the best I can at TETs. I
don't know if I can that. Thanks. Yeah, that's good stuff.
And this is from a guy you would think would know.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
I can tell you who does have enough silver iodine?

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Oh, here we go that guy. Yeah, you'll pay for
this planet.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
He's blue. Wait a second, Captain, planet's blue. Isn't it
that silver iodine stuff that turns you blue if you
eat too much of it?

Speaker 6 (37:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Now see, I wouldn't know. You might you do the experiment.
You let us know how that goes. Be right back,
all right, it's three forty nine. We'll come back with
more calls next on News Radio eleventh in kfab Emery.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Sung on News Radio eleven ten Kfab.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Karen, thanks for being a part of the show today.
What do you think about all this that we're talking about?

Speaker 11 (37:54):
Well, I don't know. You know, it's just not even
cloud stating. There's all harp secret weather geoengineering, microwave weapon.
There's been a I wish I could, I could send
them all to you. But where they have radar, where
the lasers are going right across where they're using to
manipulate a lot of our weather. Also, did you know

(38:17):
the state legislature has a revised statue of two dot
three two three seven and it says a district may
enter into an agreement with companies, service organization, municipalities, political subdivisions,
public or private, post secondary educational institutions, for state or

(38:38):
federal agencies to establish or participate for weather modification programs
is authorized.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Okay, I mean I would love a little bit more
of more information if you could email that to me, Karen,
so I can kind of sift through that. I'd appreciate that.
Just can you send me an email Emory at kfab
dot com.

Speaker 11 (38:57):
What's your name?

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Emory, Emory, Yeah, E M E R Y at kfb
dot com. Send me send me those so I can
kind of sift through them and share as much as
I can learn from actually sitting and seeing them.

Speaker 11 (39:08):
A whole bunch of stuff. It's just it is bad.
I mean, they even have it on Noah that it
was a seventy year anniversary when they did the hurricane
and it followed the same path as as it went
to the North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, I'll look into that, Okay.

Speaker 11 (39:23):
Terry's also got crazy psychopaths like Bill Gates that says
we have to you know, seed the clouds, so for
climate change, you know what seriously can go wrong?

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Right right, Karen, Now I'm here and I got another call.
I want to get to you real quick. I appreciate the call.
Look for your email.

Speaker 11 (39:38):
Okay, thank you.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, Mike's on the phone line four two, five, five,
eight eleven ten. Mike, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 9 (39:44):
Well, I feel the same way about this as I
do global warming. I think as humans are pretty freaky
arrogant to think that we can control control a hurricane
and steer it and seed it. And Marjorie Taylor Green's
out of her mind right.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Well, Mike, this is I think I fall closer to
you than anyone else who is called in in just
trying to understand how we can be so flippant about
what scientists are saying about change of the climate and
how humans are responsible for that. And then in the
same breath, these same people are telling us, well, the
government's changing the weather all the time and has the

(40:21):
ability to do that. It seems very oxymoronic to have
both of those as opinions that you have.

Speaker 9 (40:27):
I mean for us to sit here on the size
of this planets and yeah, the population has grown, but
really it's pretty minute to the area of the planet.
And to think that us can change the weather, change
the global warming, it's a cycle. The planet's going to
go on long after we're gone.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
No, I'm with you, Mike. I appreciate you calling in.
Thanks for listening to us. Yep, let's go to gym
real quick. Jim, thanks for listening to our show. What's
on your mind?

Speaker 12 (40:54):
Yeah, I heard about a document. This is probably ten
years ago now. The lady's name is Debrah Tomorrow. I
guess you can call her a conspiracy theorist, I guess.
But the document it's from NASA and it's called smart
Weapons for Silent Wars and supposedly they had these two
weapons at the time of the atomic bomb and the

(41:15):
atomic bomb, and.

Speaker 8 (41:16):
It's the other one that's called a last.

Speaker 12 (41:19):
Wave accelerator and so this I mean this document dated
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 6 (41:25):
So.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Vacuum.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah, that'd be an interesting Uh, it's been an interesting development. Hey,
you know what, you can't rule anything out right, Jim.
If you want to send that to me so I
can look it over, you can the emory at kfab
dot com. Thanks Stick, Yeah, thanks for calling in. So
we had people who have military experience who have called
in say that there's no way that this could happen,
including you know, a guy who called in whose father

(41:52):
was a part of Operation Popeye where they did do
some cloud seating over Vietnam, and said there's no way
they could be steering a giant hurricane through very specific
parts of the country. We have people that are saying
that there's a chance that this could be weaponized even
further to create more havoc, not necessarily even just for us,
but for other people if we did it the right way.
And I'm just sitting here saying this is pretty wild.

(42:14):
For a lot of the same people that say climate
change isn't really a thing to also say, hey, climate change,
you know, we can change the weather just like that
at the Stamp of a finger if we do it right,
I'm very confused. I'm bamboos so, I'm Speckledorf. If you will,
News radio eleven ten kfab
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