Lets Talk PTSD

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 4 (00:52):
All right, here we go.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
Thursday edition of the program starts right now. Let me
turn this head set up. Man, it's just kind of wonky.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Have to go back.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
I may have to go back to five below and
invest in some new headphones. Yeah, these are only can
only hear out of one ear? Well, it may be
it may be the jack. I don't know, it doesn't matter.
Welcome to Thursday, carbon copy of Wednesday, and in all
likelihood the coming Friday through Tuesday will not look much different.

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After which we've got one of those pretty much irrelevant.
Twenty percent chances of rain on Wednesday. Highs in the
mid nineties again and lows around eighty degrees again. And
if you can't tell, because you can't see me, I'm
suffering through a morning with no air conditioning in the
area where I sit. When I'm not on the air,

(01:42):
I'm tempted. I would come in here into one of
these studios. It's unused this time of day because their
climate control. We can adjust the thermostats in the studios
because we on air people are real fancy. But over
there in what they call the pit, for some reason,
I've never really under stood that there's no AC, which

(02:03):
means that for me, it's just another day, because it's
just like Saturday, and it's just like Sunday when I'm
in here on doing my weekend outdoor shows over on
Sports Talk seven ninety. Hey, man, it's it's pretty stifling
by Sunday. Saturday is not bad, which is kind of
what it's like here first day with no AC on
when it's hot outside, but Sunday it gets a little

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sporty sometimes, and the salespeople over there aren't used to it.
They're dropping like flies over there. Most of them have
already gone home.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
I get this.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
Two days without ac in summer, two days without heat
and winter every single week, so it doesn't bother me
that badly. And by the way, today might be a
very good idea to run your sprinklers, because for those
of you who haven't moved into high rises or senior
communities where they're taking care of all your long stuff,

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no rain is gonna equal dry, crispy, old, semi dead
grass for a while if you don't give it a
little drink every now and then, unless you're driving, by
the way, raise your hand if you remember from childhood.
I had a kind of flashback when I was writing
up my notes this morning about this. Try to remember
from childhood, hot summer weekend, your dad calls you in

(03:20):
to the den, Hey, Matt, he's watching a baseball game,
maybe Wild Kingdom or something like that, who knows, after
he finished them on the lawn, and he tell you
to go out and move the sprinkler.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Have you ever had to move a sprinkler?

Speaker 6 (03:33):
Cow?

Speaker 4 (03:34):
You don't even know what I'm talking about, do you.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
Well, Back in the day, cal Cal's helping out again today.
Back in the day, there were they. We didn't have
sprinkler systems. We had sprinklers that you put in different
parts of the yard to water a little bit at
a time, and it took it took hours to actually
water your lawn correctly this time of year, because you

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had to put so much water on each little section.
And depending on whether you had a lot of money
or a little money, you had one of those one
of those sprinklers that made kind of a big fan
of water going to the left and then a fan
going right, or you might have a second sprinkler that
just spun around in a circle and threw water all
over whatever it was aimed at. Either way, it took

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a long time to get that done. And the best
part of the whole thing was you ask if you
could stay outside and play in it, and Dad and
mom would say, yeah, sure, go ahead, because they wanted
you out of the house anyway. And you and your
siblings or maybe the neighbor kids if they were out,
you'd all run through the sprinkler a hundred times, and
that cool water coming out of that hose and through

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the sprinkler was like that was our outdoor air conditioning.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
A fantastic time.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
That was.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
I guarantee I had so much fun doing all of that.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
That water coming through the hose, man, it helps you
forget how hot it was. Good times for real into
the stock market it will go, which has been quite
the roller coaster ride already today, and I haven't looked
in about an hour, so if I'm off a little bit,
I apologize. All four the indicators I look at were
green early. Then the Nasdaq slipped again. Around nine thirty,

(05:15):
the Dow was up six hundred and seventy nine points,
that's a percentage point and a third.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
The Russell was also up more than a full point.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
The Nasdaq by that time had gotten down a half
a point, and the S and P was up about
a third of a point, which really.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Means almost nothing to me.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
I have a man I trust to manage my little
my little stack of money, and he does a good
job with it.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
So I'm looking more out of curiosity than anything else.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
Gold picked up thirty two dollars an ounce and was
at forty forty about that same time an hour and
a half ago or so. And Oil, actually it kind
of waffled early. It was going above and below the
seventy dollars mark a barrel and had climbed to seventy
dollars in seven eight Since last time I looked, it
had gotten as low as sixty nine eighty sixty nine

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seventy something like that. And I'm sure it'll come back
down some more. That said, the price is still more
than thirty percent off its mark from just a month ago.
And so long as a run will adhere to the
terms if it's agreement with the US, oil will continue
to fall. And that little projectile that hit a ship

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over there in the straight of horror moves. I caught
a little piece of that news flash in the in
the Fox Report just a few minutes ago. We'll have
to see how that works out. How I got two
more minutes? Oh this is awesome, Thank you, Cal. That's
really sporty. What do I want to do? This was
something I found kind of interesting, and I'll go ahead

(06:45):
and bring it up now because I don't want to
I don't want to dwell on it too long. But
I don't want to just jump over it either, because
there are a lot of our children and grandchildren who
are involved in these mistakes that they're making as young people,
and there's some interesting stuff that would apply to a
lot of us as well. There's this thread on social

(07:05):
media somewhere I'm not sure where, but doctors and nurses
are listing the latest scary health trends. And the scariest
health trends that keep coming up over and over among
medical professionals are vaping.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
I don't do that.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
Never have I smoked for a long time, but I've
never that never would appeal to me anyway. Energy drinks,
which a lot of people do misusing GLP one drugs,
there's a lot of that going around too.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
And e bikes.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
Now, I have no problem with e bikes as long
as you're wearing a helmet, and I don't think I
don't think the doctors and nurses would mind so much,
so long as you wear a helmet. Wayne Errington and
I from Wayne from Air Ride Bikes. He sells e
bikes and he won't sell you one unless you have
a helmet to put on your head. And that's the
biggest problem with e bikes is people falling off of
them but not wearing their helmets. I'm still saving up

(07:58):
for an e bike.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
I want one.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
I want to use it on the beach down on
North padre is and run up and down that beach
at thirty miles an hour, looking for looking for schools
of speckled trout and a few snook, maybe in a
gut close to the beach, maybe a little tarp and
bouncing around out there, chasing mullet. I'm gonna jump off
my bike and make a cast and catch a big
fish and then.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Ride on a time, take a break on the way out.

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check them out. Hi, welcome back to fifty Flus. Thank

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you all for listening. I certainly do appreciate that in
this segment we are going to talk about something that
impacts hundreds and possibly I don't know, tens of thousands
I'm not really sure of Americans, and is especially common
among the men and women who serve in our military,
and that is PTSD post traumatic stress disorder. To help,

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I'm gonna welcome a board, doctor Leslie m or excuse me,
Leslie Taylor, licensed psychologist and Assistant Professor in the Department
of Psychiatry at McGovern Medical School, where she specializes in trauma, resilience,
and behavioral health.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Welcome aboard, doctor Taylor.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
Thank you so much for having me to talk about
this really important mental health concern.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
It is important and all of us feel stressed at
different times in our lives. But how do those events
differ from experience of someone who's got clinically diagnosed PTSD.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
Sure, So, after a traumatic event or a difficult event,
it's very scary and frightening. Many people will have kind
of a normal stress reaction, so we may have difficulty
sleepings and anxiety or sadness. But typically this will resolve
it within a week a few days after the event,
and we're still able to function, our relationships are still okay,

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we can go to work, all of those things. But
with post traumatic stress disorder, we experience symptoms that are
characteristic of the disorder. They are longer lasting than kind
of that normal stress response, and they cause more impairment
in our daily life.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
Talk about the symptoms, especially among returning military veterans. What
are the common symptoms of PTSD?

Speaker 6 (11:10):
Sure, So you know, when we are diagnosing PTSD, we're
looking for four key symptoms. So one of them is
intrusive thoughts or having these kind of uncontrollable or you're
stressing memories or nightmares about the event. They come to
you when you're not expecting them. You can't shut them off.
Another one is avoidance, so actively staying away from people, places,

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conversations are things that remind you of the trauma. Then
the third would be these negative you know, moods or cognitions,
which are basically thoughts, so we kind of think of
the world in a more negative way. We have more
feelings of hopelessness or you know, mistrust of others, or
just generally feeling unsafe. And then finally, the last kind

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of symptom cluster we look for is hyperarrousal. So maybe
you're constantly feeling on edge, you get startled, these you're
just very irritable.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
Those symptoms differ between people who have military issues and
people who just somehow developed this in everyday life.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
I haven't necessarily seen a lot of differences between. I mean,
now with military members, sometimes we see something where they've
had to act against their moral code or engage in
acts because they're following orders that go against things that
they believe in, and that can really complicate their recovery

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from trauma. And so that might manifest in just kind
of their ways of thinking about the world and their cognitions,
and those would be things that would be targeted through
a treatment or a therapy approach.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
I could certainly understand that talk a little about how
PTSD doesn't necessarily start the day after a soldier leaves
a combat zone. It might take a very long time.

Speaker 6 (12:55):
Right, Sure, so that's really interesting that you bring that up.
And again, you know, when we're diagnosing and thinking about
these things clinically, we have a reference guide er manual
that we go to called the Diagnostic and Statistic Manual,
And in that guide, when we're looking about, you know,
what kind of symptoms are there. In diagnosis, we do

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consider delayed expression and that can mean that, you know,
we're not seeing full blown symptoms of PTSD until six
months after an event.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Ahead, yeah, go ahead, Okay, I'll go Doctor Leslie Taylor
here on fifty plus, we're talking about PTSD. What are
some of the most common misconceptions about this disorder?

Speaker 6 (13:39):
Sure, so, some of the misconceptions are that that people
that have PTSD are very dangerous, are that this is
a character flaw that's why you developed PTSD. That's simply
not true. Anybody can develop PTSD. And finally that engaging
in therapy can actually make the trauma symptoms worse, and

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that's not true either. It can be extremely helpful and
just change your quality of life.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
How often do people come to you thinking they're just fine,
but a family member or a friend thought they might
have PTSD, so they brought them in.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
Sure, so, we do hear a lot from family members,
and a lot of times when we hear from family members,
it's that a person has developed substance use issues or
they've become so avoidant they never leave the house because
of their difficulties and what they've experienced in terms of symptoms.
And so really we kind of sit down with that

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person and talk with them and say, you know, what
do you think would happen if we just if you
don't change? You know, do you want to continue to
live in this small world? Is there a chance that
you believe in recovery and recovery through treatment and what
could that mean for you?

Speaker 5 (14:51):
And along that line, doctor Taylor, how should somebody who
cares tell a person that they suspect might have PTSD
that they're worried about and they need to go get
some help.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
Sure, So, you know, one of the things that we
encourage people to do. You know, you don't want to be,
you know, combative with the person. You just kind of say,
you know, I'm here with you. I'm noticing things are
really difficult for you. If there's a chance that this
treatment or therapy could help you, you know, I'm here
with you every step of the way. And what is

(15:24):
the loss in trying to get help? No, it's not
going to make things worse.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Yeah, I think it would really be important too.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
If you're going to be that person who says, look,
I'm here for you, you better show up when they say
I want to go to the doctor, can you take me?

Speaker 6 (15:38):
Absolutely? And that's when you say you're going to be there,
you have to really mean it.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
You know what.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
PTSD has had a lot of names over the years,
and I'm sure there have been lots of efforts made
to treat it. But what are the treatment options? You
mentioned that a minute ago. What's out there on the
table now for PTSD?

Speaker 6 (15:57):
Sure there are some medications that people may take if
they see psychiatry as well as therapy. I can definitely
speak to the therapy pieces. So some of the therapies, most
of them talk therapies is what we call them. You
develop kind of a story or a narrative about what happened,
and you're really able to kind of go through that

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and pick out the pieces where you may have kind
of flawed ways of thinking. It can kind of level
set what happened. A lot of times people think they
might be at fault for what happened or they should
have done something different, and that can complicate the symptoms.
Other approaches are ones like prolonged exposure therapy where you

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can get them to gradually approach trauma related memories that
they've been avoiding since the trauma and that can help
them feel better over time. And then there's other therapies
like written exposure therapy where you find new ways to
think about your trauma and it's meeting through writing assignments
during sessions. So there's different there's different types of approaches,

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and if you go to a trauma focused therapist, they
can help you decide what's.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Best for you.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
I think the recurring theme in that entire list of
things you just talked about is time. It's not gonna
it's not gonna happen overnight. Nobody's gonna get better overnight
from this, and.

Speaker 6 (17:13):
That's sure, all right, Yeah, yeah, Time does not steal
all wounds, and it will take time for recover in
the treatment process. But we know that treatment works.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
We are fast nearing the end of PTSD months, so
no better time in this final minute to share the
single most important message about this that you want listeners
to hear.

Speaker 6 (17:35):
Sure that there is hope, that healing is real and
recovery is possible, and that asking for help is something
that takes a lot of bravery and courage and you
can do it.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
It takes so much bravery and courage for those men
and women to go do what they have to do
to keep us having so much fun over here in
our own country.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
And yeah, it's time we showed up for them. I
think I'm really glad we had this interview.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
I think pleasure. Holy cow.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
Yeah, the more I think about that, the more I
think a camp hope to I'm to call David Malsby
this afternoon maybe and just have a conversation with him,
see what I can do. Ut House Institute on Aging
is this incredible collaborative of thousands of providers from every
medical discipline, mostly in the med center as you might imagine,
but they also travel, many of them do, at least

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they also travel to outlying hospitals and clinics and offices
so that if you don't want to drag yourself all
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or tom Ball or Pasadena or wherever, somebody from this

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is going to be a doctor, a trainer, psychologist or whatever,
a therapist who has taken it upon themselves to get
extra training so that they can apply their official medical
knowledge specifically to seniors. It's kind of a big deal,
and I'm glad that that entity is here right here

(19:11):
in Houston for all of us.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Ut h dot ed u slash aging is the website.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Go there, check out all the resources you can get
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need to, for a provider who understands you, who understands
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Speaker 4 (19:32):
U t h dot ed u slash aging.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
I ain't everything with all right, Welcome back to fifty plus.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Thank you all for listening on this.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
Well, they've kind of we're kind of running into a
predictable pattern, which is what.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Oh no, what is this?

Speaker 5 (20:18):
Oh yeah, I'm not answered. I can't answer your call.
You got to call us.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
That was him, so at least he knows we're looking
for him.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
He called me on my cell phone though, and I
can't take the call right now, so we'll get him.
We're trying to get in touch with the man named
Evan Miller to talk a little bit about something very
important to most of us, and hopefully we can get
connected in there.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Oh there he is.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
Huh yeah, take care of that. You're ready, cal tee
it up, all right, Evan.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Miller, are you there?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
I'm here. How are you there?

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Go off eating the sandwich somewhere? What are you doing
eating sandwich? Is it all the time?

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Can you know? Man? We got a bunch of franchisees
in town. We're in a huge meeting. So, oh my god, Jason,
assuming it's like.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Nah, no worries, we'll talk.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
We're going to talk in this segment with Evan Miller
about something that's possibly more important to men's bodies than
they realize, and that is testosterone and to share what
you know. I'm bringing in the CEO of Game Day
Men's Health out in Katie Evan Miller.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Welcome aboard, Evan.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Well, thank you. I appreciate that. What's the average age
at which men begin to lose testosterone?

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Right around forty that's kind of the sweet spot where
most guys look in the mirror and they go, something
doesn't feel right. You know.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
I feel like I was blessed with about ten more
than that before I really had to start looking around
at myself. So I beat that curve.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
What level of testosterone is normal for say, somebody in
their late forties, early fifties.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Even it's a really good question. It's a hotly debated topic.
So what is normal? It usually is an optimal, you know,
a normal range. Some would say is you know, four
hundred three hundred if you go to maybe your primary
care doctor. But certainly it's probably not optimal. So there's
a real difference there. Optimal is hey, what if we
get those levels up a little bit more, that's when

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you notice the benefits. Having said that, too much is not,
you know, a good thing, looks like, too little is
not a good thing.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
And for somebody who's never had their testosterone checked, what
kind of symptoms are they going to see if that
that reading gets a little too low?

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Oh? Man, you know the big one is low energy. Yeah,
you know you need a couple couple energy drinks later
in the day. That's a huge one. Sleep. You know,
sleep is number two where all of a sudden you
kind of go, wow, what's going on in I stressed?
Is is it the kids? Or is it what's going
on in my life? I just not sleeping. Well, that
can be a hormone issue, So that's a biggie And
then sex drive right for us as guys, once you

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know that starts to change, you know, you start thinking
something might be going on here? Right? Am I depressed?
Am I just getting old? You know? What's happening?

Speaker 4 (22:56):
You know, I'm read that after I've read this morning.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
Actually, after forty it's kind of like muscle mass, you're
going to lose about one to one and a half
percent of the testosterone until I guess, until you just
run dry or what.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, so every year or so there's a dip and
that certainly our lifestyle doesn't help you know, we're less
active than previous generations, a lot of sitting around at
the computer, a lot less physical activity, certainly worse food
available for us than there were decades ago. All those
things are going to contribute to that decline.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
Yeah, and for seniors, what are the advantages of replacing
that testosterone?

Speaker 2 (23:32):
So all those symptoms we just mentioned, low energy, poor sleep,
or sex drive for mode, they elevate, right, So all
of a sudden, Wow, I got a little extra pep.
I don't need as much caffeine throughout the day. Or
you know, I'm waking up and I feel like super
refreshed from my sleep. I slept like a baby. I
haven't slept like that since I was you know, twenty.
Those are some of the nice improvements when you start

(23:53):
testosterone replacement it. And I want to say, make sure
the audience knows this is something that should be supervised
by a licensed clinician and something you should be ordering
online or getting off some weird website. You know, you
want to have proper oversight, which is like Bob's. Yeah,
you don't want to go to Bob's the dail on
a game day. We have you know, four hundred and
thirty locations, all clinicians, so we we do it the

(24:16):
right way. We take a lot of prime.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
Now, what what are the everything everything in life has
upsides and downsides. What are the risks associated with maybe
getting too much testosterone too old?

Speaker 2 (24:28):
If you're getting too much testosterone, there's a two big risks, right,
and our medical team is always you know, over the
latest literature on this, but it certainly you know, the
easy ones are going to be maybe some hair loss,
maybe a little more oily skinned. The more risky ones
is if you're on way too much testosterone, your blood
can become too thick, and when that happens, there's a
higher risk of you know, complications, which is all the

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more important. Right to be monitored by licensed doctors to
come in and do lad work every few months. That's
why it's important to be followed by you know, medical professionals.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
When you when you get on on testosterone for the
first time, asking for a friend. Of course, when you
get on testosterone for the first time, if if this
friend was to.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Do that, how long before you start feeling results.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
It's varies, but for most guys within the first called
sixty to ninety days, that's when they're like, huh, starting
to feel a little better here, kind of that light
gets back on in their eyes. They start to return
back to, you know, their old self again. Takes a
few months, which is the beauty of it, right for
us as guys. If you told me, hey, and a
year you're gonna feel better, I'm gonna go no, thanks,
I'm good right, yeah, pretty quick? Yeah, no, I gotta

(25:34):
get I'll give you three months, buddy, and if I
don't feel better, I'm out. And usually trt it acts
pretty quickly.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
Evin Miller from Game Day Men's Health out there and Katie,
let's tackle the elephant in the room. I guess right
now two questions number one about how much does this
therapy cost?

Speaker 4 (25:51):
And is it covered by Medicare.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
It's cheaper than a night out with the family, right,
kind of say that's the guys all the time who
are like, hey, yeah, it's so expensive. Well, you know
we're maybe two hundred or three hundred dollars a month.
You know you're gonna blow that on a Friday night
with the family without even blinking an eye. And you're
taking care of your health. You're a better dad, you're
a better worker. You're a better husband. So it's an
investment worth its gold. And then medicare. We don't take

(26:17):
any insurance or medicare at Gameway. We try to make
it super affordable for everyone. We're not a you know,
high end exclusive thousands of dollars a month's place. You know,
it's it's a month of membership, a couple hundred dollars
a month.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
I don't get a glass of champagne when I come
out there and get my Testosteroney, what.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
You're telling me, Yeah, I'd.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Like to live without thing. No, that's fine with me.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
Out of curiosity, Evan, where does all this replacement testosterone
come from?

Speaker 2 (26:44):
So we only use licensed pharmacies that are FDA approved.
That's really important. You're not getting it from China or
anywhere on the black market. I'm going to make sure
it's tested and that it, you know, is safe.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
And what's your opinion of the supplements we see pitched
by old pro athletes on TV in the middle.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Of the night. I mean, if you like throwing your
money in the trash, go ahead and buy them, right.
I mean, at some point for every guy it's it's
you're just pissing away your money. On supplements. Uh, you
know you want to you want to go to the
tried and true route, you know, which is estosterone replacement
under the supervision of a doctor.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Sure, that's that's the main part.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
I think for any type of thing like that, the
weight loss stuff, all of that, If you're not being
seen regularly by somebody who actually understands medicine and understands
this stuff.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
You are just asking for trouble. Let's finish on a
high note.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
How about this talk about some of the feedback you
get from men who came to you with low testosterone.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Changed their lives. You know, we have guys who come
in from all walks of life, like military guys, former
police officers, firefighters, and they were just low, right, as
low as you can be. They took that first brave
step through one of our doors and totally change their life.
You know, their marriage is healthier, their better dad, They're
just happier, you know, in their community. It's it's amazing.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
Evin Miller, Game Day Men's Health out there and Katie
and many many other locations. I'm gonna try and get
in touch with you after the show here, if you
don't mind, I'll call you back on this number or
just text you so we can start a conversation.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Sound good, let's do it.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
Men's Yeah, Game Daymn'shealth dot Com.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
You want to slash Katie on there? You want to
just go look wherever they are?

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, look wherever you are. It's easy to find a
location your year. Like I said, four hundred and thirty
of them open nationwide. We're right down the street.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Fantastic.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Are you based here?

Speaker 2 (28:31):
We're based on actually San Diego, California.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Oh okay, Oh I love it Sandia.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that's where a lot of golf is
played in San Diego.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Are you a golfer?

Speaker 2 (28:39):
A lot of golf? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yeah, you bring your clubs?

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Uh yeah, I always got the clubs.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
Okay, Yeah, we definitely need to talk. I got someplace
close to Katie that we can go play, all right.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Evan Miller from Game Day Men's Health, thank you.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
So much, Thanks so much. Man.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
Yeah, see you all right.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
Time to take a little break here on the way out,
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bunch of pain blockers and all kinds of things. What

(29:22):
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(29:42):
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(30:02):
They've got eight or ten clinics up there. They've started one.
I just talked to somebody from there, not fifteen mint. Well,
I guess it's been about forty five minutes ago now,
a little bit before the show started, and I understand
that their Missouri City location is just about ready to open.
So you'll have two options here, one on Stuben Or
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I'm gonna go see it as soon as i can.
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Speaker 2 (30:56):
You get it.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Shiva in the get sweet in the pop meantime, All right,
welcome back. Fourth and final segment of the program starts
right now.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
This one, because of what I do on the weekends,
mainly is something that I couldn't overlook from Fox News.
And a big win for concealed carry gun owners. The
US Supreme Court has ruled against the State of Hawaii
in a case involving a state law there that required
explicit permission from property and or business owners to allow

(31:26):
lawful gun owners to bring their firearms into those businesses.
It was a six to three decision, and Justice Samuel
eto Ito wrote Hawaii's law at issue here. This is
a direct quote from him. Why's law at issue here
violates the constitutional right to.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Keeping bear arms? End quote?

Speaker 5 (31:48):
So in that line, what's to become of Texas's thirty
odd to six law now says you can't take a
gun in places that they put a sticker on the door.
This is always perplexed me, this whole notion of gun
free zones. They tend to be where people who want
to do a lot of people harm without probably getting

(32:09):
hurt themselves.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
That's where they go.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
That's why we need concealed Carrie, because if the bad
guy has to have in his or her mind, it's
mostly guys in his mind the whole time he's plotting
and planning, that somebody else actually might try to defend
the whole crew from him before he does what he's
gonna do. Maybe they'll think twice about it. Just maybe

(32:37):
this notion of schools being gun free zones, why don't
you just paint targets on everybody. Movie theaters gunfreeze.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
They're all these places where a lot of people gather,
and if the bad guys are convinced that there's nobody
there who can stand up and defend the rest of
everybody in there.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
That's where they go and why they go there. Very frustrating.
Bad guy pulls a gun in a store and your
gun's in your glovebox because of a sign on the door.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
What good is it? What good?

Speaker 3 (33:10):
It?

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Just call time out? Hey, Hey, hold on, buddy, let
me run to my car and then well we'll work
this out.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Now you're not going to get there.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
And speaking of cars, an exotic car news, the chief
marketing officer of Ferrari has finally quit that position after
sixteen years, most likely because the company's first ever electric
car has been so heavily criticized since its debut in May.
To start off, I showed it to a couple of

(33:38):
people around the office here. After the show, i'll if
I can find it again, Cal, I'll show it to
you and see what you think about this thing.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
First of all, it's not a pretty car at all.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
It looks like.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Something out of a kind of a looks like something
maybe Ken would drive, if Barbie's driving whatever she's driving.
It's not an attractive.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
Car and it doesn't live up at all to the
the Ferrari image. It just doesn't look like much of
any of its gas powered predecessors at all. And on
top of that, even the uber wealthy among us would
have to think twice before dropping the sticker price on
the electric Ferrari six hundred and forty thousand dollars For

(34:24):
just just a little over a half a million dollars.
You can plug one of those in when you drive
it into the garage, plug it in every night, drive
it around town. People sneer at you, point at you.
I'm not a fan of the vehicle. Even if I
had six hundred and forty million dollars, I don't know
that i'd be interested in one of them. They just
don't look. They just don't look Ferrari. They really don't.

(34:48):
Quick pull of folks in the office agreed with social media.
Social media ripped them apart on this one. I think
that's why that guy finally had to step down.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
They've already replaced him with somebody who's gonna start in
July swinging a Miss Farra. Sorry.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
Sometimes you got to go out on limb, and sometimes
that limb breaks, you know, sometimes the limb breaks very quickly.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Here.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
Millie Alcock said she's honored that her fans she's the
new supergirl in that d C Studios. Movie said she's
honored that her fans believed Supergirl to be non binary,
and quote, that's what makes it so special and so
exciting and so new end quote. She also is quick

(35:30):
to point out that she has lots of queer friends,
and we've all had friends who were gay or whatever.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
I don't really care. I learned a lot about DJ
and years ago from a guy who was gay and
didn't bother me at all.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
He was really good at what he did and what
he taught me about doing that back in the disco
days landed me a nice temporary gig opening a club
over in Atlanta. I was young and single. I had
a blast. M very few seconds left. I'm gonna find
something good. How many seconds have I got? Twenty fifteen?

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Perfect?

Speaker 5 (36:04):
Eighty four year old gun in Florida is suing waffle
House after getting distracted by their strawberry shortcake waffle, tripping
and falling over a curb and sustaining injuries. Hey man,
get your eyes off my waffle.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
That's it for now. We'll see you, bye bye