New Alzheimer's Research

Today, Doug Pike interviews Dr. Paul Schulz about new Alzheimer's research.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Remember when it was impossible to misplace the TV remote
because you were the TV remote. Remember when music sounded
like this? You remember when social media was truly social?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hey, John, how's it going today?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
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(00:43):
fifty plus with Doug Pike.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
All right, welcome to Wednesday, the day after President Trump
delivered a very powerful message to our country and to
most members of Congress, a lot of them m I A.
They had their own little parties to go to, They
had their own little speeches again, and all they did
was steal from from Turning Points presentation during the halftime

(01:09):
at Super Bowl. I don't think they'd come up with
this on their own. If they hadn't done that, I don't.
I think they would have just been absent maybe, or
sit there in silence. The ones who can keep their
mouths shut long enough. Notably absent really from the chamber
was the ability of the left to disguise its apathy
toward American citizens, including every single one who voted them

(01:32):
into office. By the way, when President Trump asked members
of Congress who who among them supported protecting American citizens
first ahead of illegal immigrants when he had he asked it.
He asked the question straight up, and he looked them
straight in the eye, said, anybody who supports protecting Americans first,

(01:57):
stand up, and not a single Democrats stood up. That
should tell you everything you need to know about how
far the left is straight I told well just a
second ago, I want this country to have a two
party system, but it can't be that way if one
of those parties is absolutely positively not going to negotiate,

(02:20):
not going to talk about something as important as protecting
American citizens first. Not after he crafted the question, President
Trump did very carefully, very carefully to give them the
option to say, yeah, well, we want to help Americans first,
who want to protect Americans first, but we also want

(02:41):
to talk about illegal immigrants. Okay, let's talk about them,
but let's take care of Americans first. And they steadfastly refused,
every single one of them to stand up, every single
one of them. They value people who came here illegally,
people who've been stealing us blind, committing horrific crimes against

(03:04):
us and our children. All that, and the Democrats chose
collectively by remaining seated, to just spitting our faces they
don't support. I just saw a story just maybe two
minutes ago, two minutes ago about how Gavin Newsom somehow
came out and said to somebody somewhere. I didn't get
a chance to even read the story. I just saw
kind of the headline, and one or two lines said

(03:26):
something about how his party needs to get back in
touch basically with Americans, because they're way out of touch
right now and it's not going to do them any favors.
They don't support us, they have no desire to protect us,
and that's because ultimately they want to get rid of us.
There's only one other reason why you would choose to
protect illegal immigrants first over United States citizens, and that's

(03:50):
because they don't want to talk about it. They don't
want to negotiate, and they made it crystal clear last
night that they couldn't care less about Americans, or about
America or President at life. A lot of good things
he's done in his first full year as president and
he spent considerable time turning the spotlight off himself and
onto some true American heroes, and with few exceptions, the

(04:12):
entire Democrat side just sat there, well except for elin Omar,
who knows she's in hot water, and Elizabeth Warren, who, actually,
to her credit, she actually stood and applauded President Trump's
suggestion that all members of Congress and their spouses be
restricted from trading stocks, which more than a few have
done over the years, and probably on both sides of

(04:36):
the aisle, truth be told, they make themselves rich, richer
than they've ever imagined being by knowing things that we
don't know. And I don't know why that's been allowed
to go on so long. I thought there was a
rule against that. I think there was, or is supposed
to be anyway. Anyway, President Trump put that light on

(05:00):
hero after hero. The man is all one by one.
The one, well, they all impressed me, frankly, but the
one was that man who was one hundred years old
and had fought and I don't know, he'd flown two
hundred and something missions, I think combat missions, and in
one of those, despite his plane taking more than two

(05:22):
hundred bullet hits, and himself in that same in that
same span, taking one or two I think he did.
He managed to take care of his business and get
back and get back and land his airplane. I don't
know how he did it, but hats off to him.
Then after the State of the Union address, there was

(05:43):
Virginia Governor Abigail span Berger, the socialist who disguised herself
as a moderate to get elected. All she did was
accused Republicans of doing what the Democrats are in fact doing,
to slow our progress toward fixing as much as we
can of what President Biden broke, And instead of supporting
tax cuts, she called for new higher taxes, higher taxes

(06:06):
than we already pay for no good reason. Thank you,
will I guess, to support all the fraudulent daycare and
rehab centers that don't exist. I'm not going to burn
up this whole show on this, I promise you. In fact,
coming up after this first break, I am going to
have a talk, a good talk, I'm sure, with doctor

(06:28):
Paul Schultz, a man i've interviewed more than once and
probably closer to half a dozen times about Alzheimer's, and
from what I read this morning, one of the I
hate to call it a big blockbuster breakthrough. I don't
want to over over excite anyone, but I do, from

(06:49):
what I read, believe that this is probably the best
research and the best outcome from research that we've had
in the field of Alzheimer's disease research in a very
long time. So I think that's gonna work out well.
I'm not going to burn up the show. Like I said,
If I only leave you with one thing from last night,
it should be the image of all those Democrats still

(07:12):
sitting when President Trump asked for anybody in Congress who
supports putting Americans first over illegal immigrants to stand, and
they didn't. And that's all any of us should need
to know. Video from the chamber that moment could be
enough to sway fair elections anywhere in this country come
fall whole campaign. That's all you gotta do is just
put your name up there and then show the video

(07:34):
of all those Democrats sitting down when asked if they
considered Americans first, just the loop, just the loop memberable
line there. How do you not stand for that? President
Trump asked them. They didn't answer, how do you not
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Speaker 1 (09:29):
Aged to perfection. This is fifty plus with Doug Pike.
Fifty plus and thanks for listening. As promised in my
post on Facebook earlier today, welcome to an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
We will have to speak with a man who knows
a whole lot about one of the more complex and
cruel conditions any of us might ever face, and that's
Alzheimer's disease. And to answer my questions, I'm going to
bring back to fifty plus doctor Paul Schultz, neurologist and
neuroscientists practicing at UT physician also director of Neurocognitive Disorder
Center at the UT Health Mcgovernment Medical Center. Welcome back,

(10:06):
doctor Schultz.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Hey dougs, thanks for having me, sir.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
I really appreciate this. So most of this audience likely knows,
but for anyone who doesn't, what exactly is Alzheimer's disease?

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Alzheimer's disease involves basically garbage proteins that are not gotten
rid of fast enough accumulating the brain. So people probably
know the word amyloid plaque. That's of garbage protein. Then
that begets how protein, and that begets inflammation, and then
you get so lost. And it's a nasty disease, as
you said, and it motivates us to study it all

(10:40):
the time.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
And what are the symptoms? What are the early symptoms
of Alzheimer's?

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Memory loss is the most common, but it could also
be a change in judgment, a change in language, or
it could include getting lost. Each of those are different
parts of the brain, and Alzheimer's can start in any
of those.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Well, and we don't want any of them. How much
do people who have this disease? I was curious about this,
and I guess it happens in phases maybe, But how
much do they understand about what's happening to them?

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, that's a good question. Early on, some people do.
But the odd thing about memory DOUG is that people
forget that they forget and so the majority of yeah, exactly.
So the majority of people I see with memory on
s that swear to God that nothing's going on, and
their spouse, their wife says, hey, Paul is kidding, very forgetful.

(11:31):
But Paul doesn't realize it at all.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Holy cow. I want to look. I want to get
to the meat of this conversation and what we really
are here to talk about, so we don't run short
of time. Talk about this research I saw that involves mice,
and how it came about and what the early results
have been.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Doug, it's really fascinating, and everybody's asking me about it
in clinic. A lot of people have read it, even
though it's from a science journal. It's not surprising probably
to you readers that the brain requires a lot of energy.
Right If we cut off the blood flow to our
brain in eight minutes, cells start to die. The brain
doesn't store energy, and part of making energy is this

(12:11):
compound they studied in this article called NAD plus. It
comes from vitamin B three et cetera, very important in
the ongoing process of making energy for cells. And it
turns out, interestingly that the NAD levels are way down
in Alzheimer's. We never understood if it was because cells
were dying or if the lowering of the NAD led

(12:34):
to the cells dying. And in this case here is
very interesting. They're saying that they think that it's actually
chicken before the egg, which is that the NAD levels
are not sufficient to maintain the cells and because of
that they start getting dysfunctional and then bying.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
And so the object here is to replenish those NAD.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Cells exactly nads. And yeah, they injected it under the
skin of the mice every day, raising the levels, and
a lot of it got into the brain. And the
really surprising thing here was that these mice who get
a form of Alzheimer's really were protected from getting it,
or if they already had it. It showed some reversibility.

(13:18):
Very interesting finding doug.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Reversal of Alzheimer's in any way, shape or form would
be a real game changer, wouldn't it it?

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Would? You know, it's probably not common knowledge, but you
and I have talked before about the new treatments that
we have, you know, the antibodies and all that about
five or ten percent of people. I don't say this
publicly too much, and I hope. This is a private
conversation about five or ten percent. About five or ten
percent of people actually get better, so we know there's

(13:49):
room for getting better. Yeah, we don't understand too much
about how to achieve that other than getting people early.
Here in this paper they're saying, Hey, there's another part
to the story, and that is the cells may be
damaged and they're trying to repair the damage, but they
run out of energy while they're doing that, and if
we give them external energy in the form of an

(14:10):
ad plus, that may allow them to repair themselves. Very
very interesting find me.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Wow, So how far out would you say we are
from human research?

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Well, the thing is douge. This is a normal compound
that we get every day. In fact, it's made from
a vitamin, so at least we know it's safe. And frankly,
there's a lot of people out there who are giving
themselves NAD shot separate from this, because it's been touted
as being anti inflammatory and other things that I'm not
sure we know as much about. Anyway, when you have
a compound that's actually safe to give, you can get

(14:44):
it in the human trials a lot faster because we
don't have to worry about toxicity and side effects and
stuff like that. To god, I was going to.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Say, that's got to be exciting everybody in your world
right now.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Right and absolutely absolutely, In fact, I'm going to contact
these and see if they're starting a consortium. You know,
you need multiple sites to do this kind of thing,
and see if we can't get in on this. Be
very exciting for our patients here to try this out
and see if we can't have an effect on them
beyond what we're already getting with the other drugs that yeah,

(15:15):
you and I talked about this.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
This is just incredible. It really is about how many
people in our country deal with Alzheimer's.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Oh my god, it's like seven million that have it,
and then there's probably about twenty million that are going
to get it, and we can see it in their
brain already, but they're going to get it five or
ten years from now, and then, Doug, everybody who's got
it has a family member of ten or twenty people
who's affected by their having it, right, So, in terms
of suffering in the United States, you know, it's one
hundred and some million that suffer directly or indirectly from it.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
I got a question for you, doctor shows, Why would
I want to come in there and be tested and
be told that I'm going to have Alzheimer's in five
to ten years.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Oh, Doug, Because we're doing trials to try to prevent
the development of it. Okay, So every day I screen people.
I often pick the kids of patients that come in.
You know, mom is eighty. I look at the two
kids that are sixty and they ask me, am I
at risk? And then I say, well, there's a possibility,
but we are doing studies to prevent alzheimer to see

(16:17):
if we can prevent it. Would you like to be
a part of that? And then we test them. I
don't test people willy nilly because it drives people, not
says you can imagine. Sure, they find out they're going
to get it and we're not doing anything about it.
But if they're going in a trial, people don't mind
it then because they're being proactive and they're helping the
next generation.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Indeed, they are just what you've been doing now for
as long as I've known you, Doctor Paul Schultz. Thank
you so very much. This is incredible news and I hope,
I hope the audience who listen to you feel pretty
good about your their chances going forward.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Thank you so much for having me, Doug, always a
pleasure talking to you.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Likewise, Yeah, thank you, Dougt. Shultz, Holy cow, Okay, possible reversal.
And it's something that we already know is safe. It's
just been it's sitting there on the shelf. It's been
on the shelf, it's been taking off the shelf and
used for different purposes. And now suddenly, at least in
mice and probably quickly into human trail, found something that

(17:14):
these mice that had Alzheimer's had a form of Alzheimer's.
It went away. It reversed, this procedure in this vitamin
based compound. Whatever it is, reversed Alzheimer's. That's pretty cool.
Speaking of medical research and whatnot, ut Heals Institute on

(17:35):
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they do it because it's just good for patients. A

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lot of patients don't want to come into the medical center.
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Speaker 1 (19:07):
Now, they sure don't make them like they used to.
That's why every few months we wash them, check his fluids,
and spring on a fresh coat of wax. This is
fifty plus with Doug Pike fifty plus.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Thanks for listening. I certainly do appreciate it. Thanks as
always to doctor Paul Schwartz too, for sharing the news.
Sharing that news, bye gosh, about a potential something we
already have, we already know is safe to do and
use that potentially can reverse Alzheimer's pretty good. If it's

(19:41):
good enough for a mouse, it's good enough for me.
I may go over there and just get him to
check me out and say, Okay, what are my odds?
And if I'm on that list, if I'm five to
ten years out from that stuff, start giving me the
shots right now. By the way, I heard Jimmy Barrett
talking about it a minute ago in the first ad break.
And I'll tell you as well, if any of you
have a company or know somebody who does that might

(20:04):
benefit from this audience, this market, this station, or any
of our iHeart stations, really I'd love to help them
get started with that. I'd somewhat unique around here. If
you contact me, you can just work with me and
that seems to work out well for quite a few
of my clients. I'm glad to do it because it

(20:24):
does work, does work. All you got to do is
email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com and I'll respond
as fast as I can, and we'll find out whether
it makes sense for you or not. I bet it might.
I just had it. There was a story I read
this morning about and it called the age group it
was talking about. It called them fifty plus. What a coincidence? Huh?

(20:47):
Fifty plus used to be kind of a dead area
for marketers, for big dollar marketers. And now those people,
those old folks don't know what they're doing. They don't.
It's the younger folks that are spending all the money,
the younger folks that are willing to change brands. And
now that's no longer the case. This age group of ours,

(21:08):
fifty plus, still holds on to and spends when they
want to, not when they need to, not when they
have to, but when they want to, they spend their
money and they buy and large got a lot of it.
So if reaching this audience would help you, just let
me know, all right, Moving on, AOC who after making

(21:29):
an absolute fool of herself in Munich when asked if
the United States should defend Taiwan in the event of
a Chinese invasion, AOC. Actually, well, she kind of did
what democrats do on such occasions and tried to say we.
Afterward she tripped over her words. She used uh and
M and just it was a train wreck, as far

(21:51):
as the answer to a legitimate question went absolute train wreck.
And she claims that she was pausing throughout all that
gibber to answer to the gibberish she did to gather
her thoughts. And she even then tried to put partial
blame on our own president, President Trump, because he's just,

(22:11):
you know, he just he just talks off the cuff. No,
he what he is is he's good on his feet.
He's able to think on his feet, which is what
a world leader should be able to do. You shouldn't
need five minutes to go back and ask ai what
to say when somebody asked you a question as simple
as that. She should know, as a member of Congress

(22:32):
what our response probably would be. And if it's a probably,
then just say that I probably think that this is
gonna happen. This is what I think would probably happen,
but she had nothing. She just danced around. It was
like Kamala two point zero. When I asked the Taiwan question,

(22:55):
she fumbled the ball. She tripped over it, landed flat
on her face and took a long time to get
up and really respond to it. By the way, by
the way, the Dems have put themselves in a real
predicament by continuing to enter their stable nags into thoroughbraided risks,
thorough bread races. Boy looking at me, tripping over words,
apologies happens to everybody, but at least I know where

(23:18):
I'm going. Their top three candidates for a run at
the White House in twenty twenty eight only have the
support combined combined of less than half the party. That's Newsome,
Pete Bodhagij and aoc Cortes and the folks. They're just
worse and worse. The ones behind them are are getting

(23:42):
single digit acknowledgment for being contenders, even less than the
front runners. I think, yeah, noosms first and he's at
like twenty nine percent, and then it just drops off
like a stone off a cliff. No ways, I don't

(24:02):
know who they would even. There's just nothing that they offer.
There's just nothing that they offer. Okay, Oh, by the
way back out to gad about Gavin territory. Remember the
thousands of people who lost their homes. And this is
not about Gavin Newsom, this is about what's their name,
the mayor of Los Angeles anyway. There are thousands of
people who lost their homes in the Pacific Palisades fire

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not that long ago. Only thirteen of those homes have
been replaced so far, mostly because of permitting issues and whatnot.
And a lot more, not a whole lot more actually
under construction, but enough that things seemed to be finally moving,
but that hadn't stopped the fire department there from issuing
citations to people who lost their homes because the city

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wouldn't allow clear, dry brush for years to be moved away.
They wouldn't take it out of there, that brittle, just
tinder box of stuff built up and built up because
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if you don't mess with nature with underbrush, you're gonna

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get a fire. You either do controlled burns, you try
to cut it out of there, which takes forever, or
you get what they got LAFD now issuing citations to
people for unclear brush on the scorched earth where their
homes used to be. That's really disturbing. You remember Carrying Bass,
mayor of LA She's the one who, right before that fire,

(25:34):
knowing full well that their entire county was under a
really high risk for wildfire. She was m i A
through most of it. And now she's blaming the fire
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Okay, well, I think that sounds like a good plan.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Fifty plus continues. Here's more with Doug plus.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Thanks for listening. I certainly do appreciate that I have
got boy. I've got two days of stuff here to
try to get through in about five or six minutes.
It's not gonna happen, so I'm just gonna have to
pick them randomly. I will start from the moron Zomdani files.
Comes word that the New York City mayor's friends and

(28:07):
the Democrat Socialist Party of America want to raise the
anti on his efforts to tax the highest earners in
that city. The man they want to Now they want
to include married couples who jointly make more than a
half million dollars, which of which there are plenty in

(28:30):
New York City. Originally they were being kind of left
out of this discussion, but I guess taxing only the
super uber uber rich wasn't going to get them all
the money they need for all the free stuff they
plan to give away. So that bunch, this is not Mom,
Donnie or Zomdani Moron Zomdani doing that. This is the

(28:53):
people from that that Democrat Socialists of America party. And
in any event, they come in talking about only raising
the rate this much, and then you know it's going
to be more, you know it is. They change the
rules in such a way that nearly anyone with a pulse,
they started out with him on his side. Yeah, just

(29:14):
the super rich ones, just the billionaires, let's just go
with them. And then it was millionaires, and now it's
couples who make half a million bucks, half of them.
And before anything for anybody blanks. They're going to change
it so that pretty much anybody with a pulse and
a full time job is going to fall into the
wealthy category, because that's how socialism works. They're going to

(29:37):
either force moves by all the people who could possibly
give them any more money and not miss it, or
they're going to just have to abandon the program and
leave it the mud hole it will become if any
of this starts to happen. They're already fleeing New York
in California. Both states got those nice, big fat state

(30:02):
income taxes, and they're only going to get worse if
these people aren't slowed at least, you're not going to
stop them. You're not going to stop them except by
booting them out of office. And these states, many of
them are so in just there's so many people who
are eternally Democrat that it's going to be hard to

(30:22):
change them. Let's soften it up a little bit, will
pop quiz? You got any idea how many grapes go
into one bottle of wine? Hundreds or thousands? Okay, No,
it's really not. It surprised me if you think about
the size of a bottle of wine, the number sounds

(30:43):
kind of right. It's seven hundred. Okay, so that's still
a lot of Jews coming out of seven hundred grapes
to make one bottle of wine. I don't drink, really,
I just don't. We don't keep alcohol in the house,
So it's really not that interesting to me. But for
those of you who are are fond of wine, know

(31:05):
that seven hundred grapes, you know, that's probably about the
same amount as are eaten surreptitiously by people in supermarkets,
especially the one where I shop almost every day. I'm
in there and I see either see somebody eating grapes
just right out of the bags, just right over there.
You want to buy a bag of grapes, there's a
good chance that somebody else's fingerprints are inside that bag

(31:29):
or the bulk product place where the really daring thieves
will go over there and take out chocolate covered almonds
or something really tasty like that, and then just fill
the bag up a little way, put a label on it,
but don't make it where you can't open the bag.
They'll put a label on it, and then just two

(31:49):
was it last night? Yeah, it was last night. As
a matter of fact, I went in there and bought
some stuff, and I saw not one, but two bags
of what I presume we're partially eating types of bulk
food that had just been left over there. They buy
the stuff, or they bag the stuff, put a tag

(32:10):
on it in case somebody stops them, and then eat
it walking around the grocery store and then just put
it down somewhere and walk away when nobody's looking. From
the creepy and unnecessary desk comes word that liquid death.
You know what that is? Have you ever heard of that?
I don't know. Liquid Death and Spotify are teaming up

(32:34):
to sell a new blue tooth urn with a speaker
in it so your ashes can listen to your favorite tunes.
You want one of those?

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Will?

Speaker 2 (32:46):
That's the most expression I've seen how of you in
a while. That's kind of creepy, isn't it. I don't
know that anybody would want one of those, but they
went on sale yesterday. If you're thinking about it, each
Eternal Playlist earn costs four one hundred and ninety five
dollars and probably costs both of those companies net landed

(33:07):
from wherever they're made overseas, right twenty bucks somewhere in there,
maybe twenty five if it's a really nice earn in
the no end to stupidity, and I may have to
I might have to finish on this one. I hope not,
because I think I have one more I'd rather do.
The dieting trend in China now on social media is

(33:28):
called plastic rap eating. You heard of that?

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
This is wonderful. Will think about this? Think about how
stupid this is. People are lining their mouths first with
plastic clean rap like Saran wrap something like that. They
put that in their mouths and then they put the
food in and then they chew it all up, and
then they spit it out and throw it away. We
got bleimix. Well, no, they don't do that. We're the

(33:52):
ones who spit it out. They throw it up, don't they.
That's so bad for the lunch hour. I apologize to everybody.
I'll be back tomorrow if they'll let me back in here.
Grandpa in New York surprised when his silly little plate
pee before we Go license plate got yanked. They said
it was offensive. He says, it's not. I think it's

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just a joke too. Audios